I know you love seeing people clean old computers
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Doing a little cleaning of my IBM PS/2 8513 color VGA CRT monitor before sending it to a fellow vintage computer enthusiast.
Razzle Dazzle DOS screen-saver: eyecandyarchive...
"I know you love seeing people clean old computers"
Yes
Cleaning, repairing, and demonstrating, yes.
I got the notification "I know you like seeing p..." and i had to find out the title
wait how did you find out i watched a ton of the 8 bit guy’s retrobrite videos until 2 am last night?!?!
its because we are all guilty of it
I'm glad there's people who seek out and take care of old computers. It's amazing how many people go "oh this is just old junk" and toss them out. I rather give old machines a nice, easy, and long retirement they deserve. I still have an old Packard Bell 486, my parents got it as their first ever computer. When they passed it down to me when I was little, I still had an NCR 286 I played old DOS games on. Moving up to Windows 3.1 was amazing.
Then I stepped up to a Tiger PC Pentium 2. Pushed that thing so hard.
Yeah...have my first PC I ever personally owned...Pentium 200 I "upgraded" to
233 and learned to overclock on... My brother then set the bios password so
one more challenge on of these days 8-}
I'd rather watch someone else clean an old computer than clean an old computer myself ;-)
love your choice of BGM
ASMR has started branching out.
VWestlife's videos have been more relaxing to me than most asmr channels
We made these or a similar 12 inch monitor at Westclox Dumbarton Scotland for IBM in Greenock Scotland they were called Conestoga by IBM. The European version had Panasonic CRTs with integrated yoke. Their was a magnetic linearity coil in the middle of the main PCB designed by IBM which gave them poorish convergence at bottom middle. The convergence spec was .01 in middle and 0.03 at edges if I remember correctly. Your convergence looks fine . Think ours required a wedge tool to take the back off and used Torx screws. Our bezels were sprayed grey
I adore that youth like you love old computers. I am from the 40´s so I used IBM 360´s and huge mainframes. Thank you from the coldest place on Earth, Patagonia, Argentina.
Wow, boy do I remember that model. That was a staple in the training rooms at a Law Firm support center that I worked at. When they upgraded in the late 90s from 486 s to Pentium machines oh, I got a whole bunch of equipment about 15 monitors and 20 desktops. Repurposed and sold them all. Still have two of the monitors left and they still work to This Day in 2020.❤❤
In many ways I find old electronics more beautiful than what we have nowadays ugh, I miss my early 2000s huge pc, I was living in the future back then and I have so many memories from that time ❤
I like your cleaning music selections.
We must be close to the same age. I built my first computer in November of 1992, just shy of my 12th birthday. I had the Axion 14 inch SVGA monitor also with a .28 dot pitch. I think I have one of these 8513s at home now, actually. Great little displays!
I didn't know the full name of that program was Razzle Dazzle or that it was a shareware program. The dazzle.exe I'd always played with had to have been from no later than 1990 or 1991. Eventually I opened it in DEBUG and found information on keypresses to activate various patterns and the command-line options.
One advantage to older analog monitors is they can display VGA modes better. For example, the border on mode 13 (it's like the C64 border but much narrower) is cut off on newer LCD monitors.
The first two BGM remembers me to the generic music that Korea Central Television plays into their testcards by a half hour.
Well, yes, in fact I do!
We all do
Way to my heart really ....
Yes but when we saw that sticker glue we were all so excited about how satisfying it would be to see you clean it off - denied! 😂
Funny how the kugelschmerzenspritzwasser bottle makes the same kerschmunk kerschmunk sounds, no matter what part of the melting blue marble you're on.
I graduated from high school in 1987 (when that manual was printed) and college in 1992 (when you received the monitor). Oh, I'm old... ;)
A few more details about the Made in Taiwan part: As previously mentioned by another commenter, the FCC ID points to Tatung, but to be more specific it most likely was manufactured by Tatung's subsidiary Chunghwa Picture Tubes (華映 or CPT). They produce LCD panels now, despite sticking to their old name, but back in the day they were one of the largest OEM CRT manufacturers in the world. This was most likely made in their factory in Longtan, which is nowadays less than an hour's drive away from Taipei.
Do you reckon they made the monitor in the eBay listing at the end as well?
I had one of those . I was running OS/2 on a IBM 386. Didn't have that sweet screen saver though.
0:23 For some reason I'm so relieved to know that I wasn't the only one building my own computer at age 12
It'd be nice if I could get a CRT monitor to go with my Olivetti P75, but here in the UK they're retro now so must be worth hundreds of Pounds, except they're not, but it's not helped by people paying such silly prices... :(
The blinking LED on the keyboard means a tiny man is trapped inside the computer.
I have a "Gateway 2000" monitor that also looks almost exactly like an IBM PS/2 monitor.
I looked up the FCC ID and it seems this monitor was made by Tatung. From what I've seen, all or most of IBM's monitors in the 80s to early-mid 90s were made by them.
Love that case ... have a pentium 66Mhz from At&T and still has the same power button :)
.28 dpi? Very good indeed for its time.
It feels weird to think that's a lower DPI than some Nixie tube setups
I love old computers in general, but cleaning them is a chore so so I will enjoy eating popping corn and soda pop while resting.
i have been waiting for you to do some computer things again....thats awesome that you had that computer at 12 years old...12 years old was my first console!! great times...
AFAIK some of IBM's monitor (notably the 5153 and maybe the 5154) were made by Tatung (which I belive is/was a Taiwanese company), so that may explain why this monitor has "MADE IN TAIWAN" written on the back sticker.
The FCC ID on the label matches Tatung Company. They're based in Taipei, and were my first guess when I saw a Taiwanese CRT
Tatung is still around, but most of their production lines have moved to China (of course), although their indestructible rice cookers are still made here in Taiwan because they're a national symbol of sorts. If you know anyone from Taiwan, ask them about the rice cookers and they'll nod with appreciation.
Hmm. I encountered a 1996 Tatung 1024x768 CRT at work over the summer. I actually used it for a few months because I was upgrading computers in a simultaneous setup with a KVM switch. No other monitor could match the switching speed of that old Tatung. It doesn't even have an OSD - the controls are knobs under the front lip.
That is one thing that has only gotten worse over the years. Displays now take their sweet time syncing to a new signal. Even my older LCDs are faster than modern 1080p and 4K screens.
@@nickwallette6201 they also need to upscale everything to their native resolution... Wheras CRTs don't give a damn about resolution, they display it as long it's within their limits.
this chanel inspired me to pull out my old hp compaq tc 4400 and install fresh windows xp on it and i forgot how fun older computers were 😭
This video is a real treat, thanks! Wow, this takes me back too..... My first home computer was an Apple Performa though from I believe 1994. I was always and still am a Mac kind of guy.
Forget the monitor, I'd rather have the Compaq DeskPro EN off to the side. That was the second computer that I ever had.
The monitor was made by Tatung. They are still around, selling consumer hardware and interactive displays.
286, 386, 486 and Pentium I, II, III, IV
DOS, Win 3.11, Win 95, Win 98, Win XP
Love retro-computing 😘😍🤗☺️
I’d love to see an up to date video of your camera collection these days! You’ve had some great classic 8mm and DV cameras over the years I’ve been watching your videos 🤗 I have rather an epic collection myself now too 😊
That would be pretty cool! I too have a bit of a collection building up xD
Exactly THIS was the monitor I did my first Paint-drawings on Windows 3.1 in about 1994 as a 4-year old :D
(Sadly the monitor has been thrown away in the late 2000s, it still worked well, even on modern PCs, but ONLY supported 640x480 VGA @ 60Hz(?), which all in all is pretty much useless these days...)
I love those Amiga Multitracker songs
The sticker's most likely referring to the potentially lethal 265v B+ (rectified DC), lurking underneath like a coiled snake and ready to POUNCE!
Haha made you jump! xD
Kevin, here's a tip on cleaning sticker residue from your IBM PS/2 monitor; first you have to soak a paper towel in pure Isopropyl Alcohol (98-99%) and leave it for about 15-20 minutes. Next, take the soaked paper towel and gently wipe on the sticker residue. Then, take a lint-free microfiber cloth and wipe the spot until it's dry.
I have used this method to clean sticker residue off PC cases and laptops and so far it works like a charm. Your mileage may vary.
What does soaking the paper towel for so long accomplish? I imagine the fibres are fully saturated before the 15 minute mark. Removing some component added in the towels’ manufacture?
Oh boy, I had a monitor like that! The memories...
YOU KNOW I LOVE SEEING PEOPLE CLEAN OLD COMPUTERS
Had an 8503, 8512, 8513, 8514, 8515, and 9515. I believe I still have the 8514. The 8513 let its magic smoke out one day. The 8512 always had a bad cable where it went into the back of it, so I'd have to wiggle it around to get everything to display right. Eventually the power supply in it went. No idea about what happened to the others, I know I threw one or two out when I moved.
I mostly used the 8512, with its .41 dot pitch. It was pretty soft. But, hooked to a Model 30 with MCGA, it was a great monitor.
started off with a 286 with dual floppies and a amber screen complete with burnin image . got it from a friend who used it to run a printing press that was valued at $1000.00 usd. couldnt turn the monitor off whilst running the press. then comes along word star and obsoletes everything . threw almost everything out except the computer . got a okidata impact printer with the deal as well. then a friend gave me a 386 mother board and 10 meg seagate hard drive a number of years later the hd quit and we had to scrap everything. looks like a through job u r doing. thanks .
So are you literally giving that screen the good old razzle dazzle?
That video on the screen is super awesome oh my god
I have one of these that was given to me a few years ago, that I use with old Win 98 era computers as I don’t have anything older than a pentium II. Works fine, even if the VGA cable has lost its insulation near the VGA connector (it was given to me that way). Mine works on 230V though, as I live in Europe, I guess they made them for both voltages.
You can get that sticker goo off with Goo Gone of Goof Off. Lean monitor on it's side. Spray on. Leave for 5-10 min and scrape off with a plastic paint scraper. Should come off very easily.
Love the music mate! Love all your videos. Hello from Australia. I've watched every single one of your videos and loved them all. Cheers.
I recognised that Razzle Dazzle screen saver, I remember it from the early 90s. Many happy memories of when I should have been studying, instead of watching it!
I wish I had my old first PC, Atari or Sinclair. They all went to the dump. 😢
I have to do the same with my commodore 1084 monitor, and also do a recap.
I think the sticker is good for 265v. So if you plug it in to the mains it'll be fine, it won't blow up.
I still have an old IBM 286 with the same monitor, the same Model M keyboard, and it has Dazzle installed. 😁
Hey VWestlife. I think Goo Gone will do a really good job in getting that adhesive cleaned off on the right hand side of that computer monitor. :) What do you think? :)
Just as long as you dont use "OOPS" cleaner that comes in a can. That stuff is like carb cleaner and will melt plastic!
I liked this because I always dust old electronics before reusing them :-). And occasionally open them to remove the dust inside too...
You are correct. Very much correct.
Captivating
You were born in 1980? Was anyone else expecting kevin to be way older lol
According to the FCC ID, that monitor appears to have been built by Tatung. (sorry if you already mentioned this in the video!)
I do love seeing people clean old equipment on UA-cam. How did you know?!?!?
I had that same monitor but I didn’t get it until 1993 and I was very happy with it.
If you were 12 in 92, then we actually are very close in age. I don't know why, but I thought you were slightly older then I am. :)
I used to have the 8512 VGA monitor, it was my first color monitor ever, and it was originally paired with my Model 25. I *had* an adapter that connected the MCGA port inside to a VGA connector bracket that attached to the punch out area. It was weird, and I don't know if it was a stock Model 25 offering or a dealer mod where my father purchased his model 25 from back in 87. When I jumped to a 486 and Pentium, I still had the monitor but by the time I went to a Celeron I had a 17" Gateway EV700.
I find Sticky Stuff remover works great for sticker residue. Takes it right off in most cases. It really cleaned up an old Zeos 486 tower very well.
As much as I love cleaning old computers lol, there is something indeed about taking a dusty old system and making it look good again.
Gah you have my very first IBM monitor. I've been trying to find one locally for ages but can't find any.
I had a similar monitor on my 286 in the 90s....memories of Commander Keen
I would be very interested to see a video about how you double-box monitors for shipment.
You know us well
+10 on the title alone!
I have two 8512 and one smaller VGA-Monochrome.
Nice job on the cleaning.
I usually use Cif (aka Jif) for cleaning computer/electronics cases. It works very well.
Indeed we do.
Wow so that computer was made in 1997 that's right around the same year that I got my very first computer with a CRT monitor. As a matter of fact it was an IBM not this particular model but it was the IBM aptiva E4 series it was a tower based computer. I'm not too sure the model number of the monitor itself but the monitor was also IBM. The computer came with Windows 95 which I then upgraded to Windows 98 later. I had that computer for about 5 years. Later in around two thousand two I thing or two thousand three somewhere around there. I got a Compaq Presario 4410 us computer which basically replaced the IBM.
Where did I say this was made in 1997?
@@vwestlife you did not say 1997 although I thought you did you were referring to the manual being dated 1987. Well anyway like I say I got my very first computer in 1997. I remember that screensaver very well it was actually one of my favorite screensavers. I don't quite remember the model number but a friend of mine actually had a Tandy computer that kind of look like the one in this video however I don't think it was the exact same one but it came pre-installed with deskmate OS. Have you ever experimented with Linux? Have you ever considered getting into a single board computers like the Raspberry Pi?
Welp that goes right into my ASMR playlist.
So, the painted finish means there's nothing you can try to do to remove the adhesive residue without making a total mess, I guess? Too bad, really.
I remember my CRT monitor back in the days being connected to my (very first) DTK 286 computer, which would turn off the monitor when switching off the PC.
I miss "Crazy Sue" :) (The MS-DOS users may remember this...)
My wife just told me as I am watching this. I watch to many videos of people cleaning there old computer’s on UA-cam
This guy gets it.
*twenty-one people disagreed with the title*
I'm a fan of these very old pcs even if i wasn't alive to use them myself
the oldest computer that i still use is a dell dimension 4400 from 2004 running windows 7
I watched because there was a monitor with DAZZLE.EXE running
I’m shocked I can’t find John LaDuca or his songs anywhere on UA-cam but in your videos, vwestlife. Maybe you have the only remaining copy of the tape/cd?
I remember back in the day, my school had a ton of these monitors so definitely not unfamiliar to me by any means.
While on topic of ps2 era stuff I recently found a model m trackpoint ii in beige at the recycling center
I guess you got the sticker residue off. I was going to suggest lighter fluid. Works well and doesn't dissolve plastic.
I’d love to find an 8513 for my radio station automation PC.
Wonderful!
Try some WD40 for the sticker residu
I'm not too terribly interested into computer equipment, more in audio equipment being cleaned up, but monitors are sort of interesting well!
Nice video too!
Wow, I have the same monitor. Currently, I use it for a retro arcade system powered by a RPi4. I'm trying to figure out how to open the thing up and tune the screen's positioning, because it displays everything a bit too close to the left.
Some day i hope to own one of these and a PS/2 55SX
Pale Moon browser detected, i will check it, thx.
A painters brush is pretty good for the slots too besides the microfibre towel & credit card.
Currently messing with a bit of overclocking on a socket 775 system with my backup gpu a core 2 duo 8400 overclocked as a test too 4.05 ghz & hd 6870.
Besides a fan pointed at the chipset & a fan behind the cpu cooler (system is setup on one of my kitchen chairs as i sold my testrig which was a socket 1366 system.)
(Was surprisingly easy too get the cpu too 4 ghz i expected all kinds of tweaking too hit that.
But nope, a decent voltage setting on cpu 1.37v
(Probably bit on the high side for the cpu.)
fsb too 445x9 multi stock is ofc 333 fsb.
2x2 gb of 1066 mhz ram sticks & its fine for some benchmarking in the legacy 3dmark benchmarks.
I do in general use dishwashing soap mixed with water like 90/10 mixed in a spraybottle, chemically clean gasoline sometimes for stuff like thermalpaste, microfibre towel, qtips.
Generic cleaning wipes should work pretty well against grime from foods,drinks on pcb's along with chemically clean gasoline.
Is your UA-cam title kinkshaming me? 🤨