In most use cases, this is more useful than ambient lighting RGB stuff. I don't know how expensive it is but its certainly a feature that would be neat if it caught on.
@@Tomoyo0827 Name one Mercedes that allows you to change the color temperature of the overhead lighting. Not ambient lighting, but actual overhead lighting.
48v hybrid, pop out door handles, wide screens, rear wheel steering, active noise canceling, soft close, automatic opening etc just copy and paste from other car manufacturers and you get Genesis. Its not bad car but they really need to step up and start the trends. They have always been trend follower. You see German brands innovative each year, you see Korean brand copying each year.
@@santileonsteinberg1441 What now? Floating horizontal screens and big center console... How is that distinctive? Its like 1 gen back Mercs, Caddies,... Then you have the back end of the front seats still looking like S-Class ripoffs. Their head of design is an ex VAG ffs. He's been ripping of bits of design from every european brand. The rotary Jaguar controls, Audi's slopping roofs,...
I bought a ‘15 Genesis Sedan (Early G80) on a whim, and a lot of my friends made fun of me cause they thought I should’ve gotten a coupe. Then they all rode in it.. Lexicon Audio, the best cooled seats I’ve ever had, was decently quick, comfy as hell to ride in, and a great cruising car. It got totaled thanks to a Prius but damn that car took the hit well, and the safety features were great. Been really happy to see this brand slowly evolve into a very modern competitor to the 3 brands that have been around for ages.
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 Thank you, not even a scratch on me and minor pain overall. It was impressive. The sunroof opened instantly, 911 was called, the doors unlocked, and windows went down if I recall. Engine still wanted to turn over in the yard too.
@@Annexation_ I know, it was almost meme like honestly. Some older lady wasn't sure if she could make it and she went for it then froze in the middle of the street cause me to hit her and bounce into her daughters car as well. It was even that ugly light light green that they made. I ended up with a 2015 Mustang GT and honestly have loved every second of it. I was trying to find a 16+ 5.0 Ultimate but none were available so I got a different 5.0 lol
@Ouchwitz Summer Camp LLC They're gel packs, that's why they work so well. I miss that feel of freezing my ass out in the summer with those seats. I wanted a 5.0 but couldn't find it in time :/
After listening to the Mark speaking during the drive, I can now appreciate the effort Genesis put into making the cabin quiet. Mark honestly sounded like he was stationary in the G90.
i just they fully adopt multiport injection like Toyota. 2000's Hyundai/Kias were Toyota tier reliable mostly. But direct injection engines I went back to Toyota. The G90 is multiport like Toyota, we can pray it becomes the norm. Toyota reliability for all Hyundai's again and with soft touch everywhere, and without map pockets that cut your fingers like an old Corolla/Camry.
ive always tought why people dont just buy prius prime and wear some light ear covers, ear muffelers or whatever their called, to reduce precived windnoise etc. most the time, its only driver alone anyway, u dont need such thing for every passenger. i hear its illegal ti apprently have stuff covering ears for saftey reasons, but ive seen hearing aid sort of earbuds that play high qaulity sound since their so close to ears, maybe they could do noise canceling or just have a level of violent noise reduction material that can be switched on or off like plastic earbud sound reducers for gun use
@@on-site4094 Genesis is Hyundai, which has been around for quite some time now and their reliability is quite good. Also, almost no one keeps their cars for a decade anymore, especially luxury cars.
Lots of channels showcase the features of the cars and trucks being reviewed, you guys are the only channel that explains the why and how of those features. Great vid as always.
@@whitemailprivilege2830 I enjoy the way they go over in detail, all of the features of the vehicles; the suspension, engine, steering components, and further explain the reason and reasoning of why the engineers made the decisions they did.
Bmw and porsche are way way ahead of genesis with crappy door hardware and no trunk room. Raising the car 20 or 30 mm is not enough for crappy roads in the us.
Genesis has accomplished what Lincoln was trying to do in the 80's and 90's with the Continental and Town Car but couldn't. Class competitive technology, build quality and dynamics with a focus on luxury (not sport) at a slightly lower price point. To be fair, the current Lincoln Continental mostly accomplishes that goal but nobody seemed to notice.
I drove the Continental, as well as CT6, Jag XJ, and BMW 7. The Continental was nowhere near as good as any of them. The engine was loud and unrefined sounding, it wallowed around all over the place, it felt like you had to stand on the brakes to get it to stop, and the interior was not all that good. Current Lincoln SUVs are MUCH nicer inside than the Continental was.
@@therealSIRBOOM sirboom.... as usual, i would give my right arm if you could prove you drove one. and it was nothing like the taurus. entirely different platform...so what are you talking about? at one time...lincoln sold over 5,000 of these anually, eventually dribbling down to around 1,200 per year before ending production. oh, and for your info... "How many G80 did Genesis sell in 2021? Genesis sold 6,031 G80 in 2021. In 2020, Genesis sold 3,359 G80. They sold 2,672 more units in 2021 compared to 2020 with a percent gain of 79.55% YoY." puleeeeeeze.
I bought a top trim GV70 a month ago and love it. I thought after a few weeks that I would find things I didn't like. I thought I would find things that just annoy me, but I don't have any. The vehicle is great. I love the ride quality and performance. I love the tech and the easy to use infotainment system. I love the way it looks inside and out. This G90 is on a whole new level of luxury. I don't ever see myself owning or wanting to own one but it sure is impressive.
This car has a very 1930s/40s art vibe to it - it reminds me of Captain Nemo's Nautilus car from The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, with hints of late 30s Bugatti as well. Like it or hate it, it's artfully designed and very eye catching. I love it.
The Kia Stinger turned me on to KDM cars 3 years ago. The G90 gave me respect for KDM luxury. So much so in fact that I picked up a 2012 Equus as my daily. Great vid SG
Always a big fan of the Korean brand (currently driving a Kia Sorento PHEV), look forward to seeing their home grown air suspension technology tickles down to the Hyundai and Kia brands and make it affordable.
This car looks phenomenal, but the previous generation also looked amazing and it still had the 5.0 V8. What a spectacular engine that was. The facelifted version of the previous generation commanded so much presence.
That's the one thing I'd miss - you can make the V8 sound amazing. However, I like that the exterior styling now matches their other vehicles, and that they added back the foot rest, air suspension, and added massaging seats like they should have always had. I love my car, but I felt like it was weird that the old Equus had some features than the current G90 doesn't.
They dumped it because they are building a presence in Europe and they want to meet regulations without having to sell a different variant in each market.
Love the reviews! HOWEVER - you said Hyundai/Kia haven't used air suspension previously - not true. The 2009-2016 Hyundai Equus (basically a G90 before Genesis) did have air as standard. I owned a 2012 for two years, was great.
What Hyundai and Kia are pulling off these days, at their price points, when they put their minds to it, is deeply impressive. The Ioniq5/EV6 are universally praised and the wait times to get one are brutal. The N products are very solid performance for money. Their crossovers and SUVs are well-rated and in demand. And going toe to toe with the established germans on luxurymobiles, and by now giving them quite a reasonable fight for much less money, is the icing on top.
@@WSOJ3 Infiniti/Nissan still have some top notch technical solutions... The VR engines are the first variable compression engines. Thats HUGE! Then there's the drive by wire technology, that a lot of people dont like but its easily the most advanced and promising one in the market. They pioneered that too. Their awd system is top notch too and their reliability is top5 (in part, because of how old they are). Right now Infiniti is on a very low level, yes, but they did deliver a good amount of great cars in the past. And lots of great innovations like the elctro-hydraulic steering in the M/Q70 (which is now used by Porsches and Mclarens), 360° cameras (first on production cars), 4 wheel steering,... Genesis are up to a promising start, in part thanks to all the money Hyundai pumps into them, but they've not brought anything truly revolutionary to the market. Even their overall design is purely european with no Korean character at all. Infiniti was at least a pure Japanese proposal. Even more so than Lexus or Acura whom always steered towards the american market.
Wow - Genesis really went to town on this car. I love it, because it is a reminder what a true big size sedan was always about - comfort and luxury above all. So I am glad they didn't go the way of AUDI S8, BMW M750 etc - which is nonsense. If you want sports car - buy a sports car. This is for getting pampered and just enjoy the drive and relax. Basicaly a Bentley at bargain price. and better quality. Bravo Genesis!
I think the button to open and close the doors is an awesome feature and should be included in all luxury cars..some car doors are pretty heavy and the button makes life easier
I have been driving Audi and Mercedes vehicles the last 10 years. Really think my next purchase will be a Genesis. They are just putting out great cars, and not just for the money.
yep same really liking what Genesis has been doing in recent years. the only thing I would check is check your local genesis/hyundai dealership to make sure there is a decent one in your area. I think if you have a decent dealership from them near you then it really is a great choice
@@doubledown8229 They've gone away from classic elegance and going with bold everything. It's supposed to make each new model seem like being worth upgrading, but I think they've undermined their own design principles. There's no continuity anymore. They're experimenting too much, trying to see what sticks. I think the less prestigious names are doing it better now. There's more consistency, fewer shock elements, and more identifiable design language through the whole fleet. BMW interiors aren't too bad, but the exteriors are poor. Mercedes is just ugh. These cars are going to age very poorly. I think they will be seen in a similar way to malaise era cars from the 70s.
My issue with Mercedes is them following the Russian Doll design. Your S Class shouldn't look like an A class. There's nothing wrong with having some family resemblance, but each vehicle should have the own unique look.
Genesis is probably the brand I would buy if I needed a luxury comfort car and didn’t want a sports sedan. Really align with Mark on this interior. It is so refreshing.
This is an excellent effort from Genesis. If Genesis keeps this up, they can finally earn the recognition they deserve. People just say “ oh, it’s just a glorified Hyundai and crap”, but no, the genesis brand is a totally different league than Hyundai with everything different. Would I choose this over an S Class or A8? No, but I’d certainly choose it over the new 7 series, and the Lexus LS. Mark explains the g90 very well. I will listen to mark, not badge snobs.
This is my perfect car - the ultimate isolation / relaxation hwy cruiser. I just need it to be an ev (I can no longer tolerate the ICE drone) and a higher riding crossover.
I was just thinking Geese should test this in one of our IL winter ice storms and see how long it takes to get into your car. Or maybe the owners of this only park in heated garages at home and work.
You watch any review of an S-Class today and the controls are so over-the-top confusing I couldn't fathom driving one. This seems more down to earth and approachable
How is that absolute genius? What's the amazing benefit over just having it radiate unoffensively from the general dashboard area? I suspect I would hate announcer stuff to come from directly behind my head.
@@axel-11 Chime sound? You mean door not closed properly? It is hard to miss even in the back seats, and there is no problem making it a bit louder because it should be very audible, due to being safety relevant, and how often does a back seat passenger forget to close the door properly? If because of that it has to be slightly louder from the front, I see no issue there. To the contrary, it might be kids back then, so parents in the front want to know if their kids didn't close the door properly.
@@Dowlphin No, I was talking about any driver related sounds, and in particular -aforementioned in first comment turn signal chime. I assume car manufacturer would like to isolate driver (and his functions with all blows and whistles and those chime sounds) from backseat passenger (and his/her comfort and tranquility). Probably the idea of putting speaker in headrest is similar to something I had experience with in some high-class taxi service - the driver had a headphone in his ear to hear direction advices from navi system, so passenger would not hear them and would be able to relax with more comfort and in silence if needed.
It’s so good to see how far the group has come. I owned a corporate training company in Seoul back in the day ad Hyundai/Kia was a client. We’d have discussions with the engineers and designers about the group getting into Motorsport and improving their designs. I would encourage them to be more confident about what they can do so that they can avoid gimmicks and over-design trap.
Thrilled that Genesis is maintaining a strong trend of tasteful, restrained design with an almost '50s bent on brightwork and the "marble" trim. I am curious, since I've noticed it on Genesis from day one - are the silver interior brightwork elements still a cheap plastic feeling when you're pressing them? That always aged poorly in my experience, and I hope they fixed that issue. They've come a very long way in the last 10 or so years - looking forward to seeing how they continue to improve.
@@mojojojo_BB if that's the case, that's excellent. However, in every Genesis product for the first couple of model cycles, it was cheap, silver plated plastic that felt horrible and looked worse after the first owner got ahold of it.
true to your journalistic roots with an IT flair, you've gone native to us Koreans, and that's not a bad thing-thanks for your review US army guy who happens to be also native with Jack...
Thank you for this review. I’ve waited for this car to get to this country and into the hands of auto reviewers here for in depth reviews. Love this car inside and out. Thanks Mark!
The profile @ 18:09 is gorgeous. Low front overhang, design around the c-pillar, the rim design are all beautifully laid out. Looks like no other luxury car in its class. Nothing overly controversial. Well done Genesis….
i dont like the rear window lines they dont line up with anything. they shouldve specialized in old school aesthetics and ease of use interioir, with switches that have base heavy clicking sound and some phsycal resistence to being moved, etc. they already have quite a aesthetic focus like lexus lc500. they couldve have allowd screen to be manually coverable with wood veneer like a manual and more simple version of what is in bently continental, without the pshycal gauges, or at least allow it to be turned off when not in use. simplyfy the front end more like the genesis EV, to make whole thing look more similar at every angle of car and not busy at front and plain everyhwere else. a hole through passenger seats would allow storing long objects including rear seats legs etc while allowng more trunk storage space
@@kalmmonke5037 not expecting it to be universally loved. I think its far less controversial than anything else in its class. Not too plain or extreme…
I could hear actual enthusiasm, this must be really impressive. Shame about the V6 but I guess that's how things are going. interior color temperature is an absolute godsend that will make the cabin feel a lot nicer.
You’re absolutely correct. I remember when European brands bragged that their ergonomics in relationship to interior controls was that each individual button felts so different from the one next to it that you could feel the differences in the dark and that way you didn’t have to fiddle fuck around.
Once again, stellar performance on your review. FYI - I am a fan of the Hyundia KIA driving technology. I think it is second to Tesla. I am referring to the HDA (Highway Drive Assistance). I drive about 4000 to 4500 miles per month previously in Telluride, currently in a K5. My next ride will be either the G70 or G80. Thanks for what you do for us!
I’ve definitely become a fan of Genesis and Kia, especially after my 2023 Kia Sportage X-Pro purchase & reviews and specifications of their products. Great 👍🏾 Review too.
The door pops open but doesn’t open all the way is a safety feature. You don’t want some random car driving the down street taking your door off if you are street parked and getting out of your car.
incredible, but great, that the manufacturers have given up on trying to solve the DI build up issue and going back to dualportinjection. ford did it on all their ecoboost engines, the koreans are now following.
Ever-more complicated technology and more resource investment just to drive an ideological agenda into extremely diminishing returns. True genius improves through simplicity. Nurturing abundance is the way. Instead we have a demon couple from hell: capitalist scarcity teamed up with ecofascist scarcity in a pretend-opposition for perfect divide-and-conquer entrapment into servitude of Master Fear.
@@Dowlphin my golly...someone after my own heart. my son sit with me every evening until my neck surgery in two weeks...and we go on n on about this very same thing. we even internet searched the BEST and LEAST electronically compromised vehicles. and not many...actually zero being sold new right now. so he decided to look into building from kits, but they were all goofy, sports cars looking like cobras replicas OR tubes on wheels!!!!!
@@paulpellico3797 Yeah, I guess the older used models get sold to other regions of the world. And of course as more time passes, pre-surveillance models get ever-rarer. They'd rather sacrifice safety technology before they sacrifice data harvesting technology. The power priorities are clear. It really saddens me because I cannot get comfortable with used cars, especially very old ones, and I got my own not roadworthy in a garage, cannot imagine a better era (2000, with older engine) and don't see a prospect for getting it in proper condition anymore. I don't even know whether I could if I wanted or need to move away. I put a lot of devotion into it but was then robbed of the fruits, now feeling like I will end up not ever owning a car anymore.
@@Dowlphin what car do you have garaged? My don and I, even though he's not a car guy, get auction updates every day...and soo many make me wanna buy!! But until spring, I can't
@@paulpellico3797 I got a Corolla with a 3S-GTE. It's like a spiritual connection I have to that car. I went through so much torment with it, including 5-years-long lawsuit against corrupt judges. I got a video of it on my channel. If you sort by most-viewed, it's near the top.
Wow. Still driving my 2012 (Hyundai) Genesis. 100k is out of my range though…. Have winter tires on 17s, put pilot sport summers on 18s, the ESC no longer activates, car just hooks up.
The power closing doors is a feature you used to get on Rolls-Royce vehicles, until recent Maybach vehicles & now this which is essentially the least expensive luxury car that has that feature
9:35 Thank you for the dual injection discussion in terms of rattling noises at low RPM. The Mercedes 4 cylinder c250 of 2012-1014 sounded almost like a diesel at low RPM.
Hopefully they address the door handles. I saw they got rid of the touch buttons on the steering wheel in the GV70 and went back to regular buttons for 2023MY.
The drivers seat sounds comfortable. I must have my owner upgrade his 2013 s class to this Uber quiet 2022 genesis g90. He probably won’t notice the slight detour from his weekly Thai massage
This is how an S-class used to be. Not all this touch crap, but great buttons, amazing haptic feedback, look and overall feel. Not one giant shitty screen and black plastics. If you get these used after a couple of years for around 40k. I would totally buy this
I realize that Lexus/Toyota, Infiniti/Nissan and Acura/Honda had to overcome the same issue but 100K for a Genesis/Hyundai that in most markets is sold and serviced from a dealership that sells both brands......
The service experience is a concern. The Kia/Hyundai shops I've been in have had more in common with a Mexican post office than a Mercedes or Lexus service department.
This is a huge concern - the customer service experience is a massive part of ownership, and Lexus is big on the "concierge" part, from IS to LS. Mercedes seems to do this well also, and BMW is hit or miss. Apparently the few stand alone Genesis dealers do this right, but that seems to be far from the norm. I wouldn't want to spend that much money and have a sub-par service experience every time an oil change is due.
FOR THE MONEY, i'm very impressed with this generation of Genesis, esp GV80, G80, and G90. THey are now truly a cheaper alternative to same class but more expenisve alternatives which to be frank they werent before
I'm really curious to see how the new air suspension feels compared to the existing one, and what difference the active noise canceling makes. One thing I thought was odd is that although my G90 is very quiet, it isn't unbelievably so. My previous Genesis sedan was noticeably quieter after I added more sound dampening materials all over the place, so I know there is room to go.
Luxury should be simple. I could never understand why the car companies think that people who can afford these ultra Luxury cars have the time or patience to figure out a complicated infotainment system. I really like what Is Hyundai has done with this car.
As a Korean who's been quietly rooting for Hyundai/Kia since the 90s, slowly seeing the comment section from mostly hate in the 2000s, then a good mix of hate and love in the 2010, and now in 2020's I can see most comments are positive. What a great stride this company has made. They have been in the business for only a fraction of other companies and they are killing it!
It's a shame that the owner of the previous gen, Mark Burgervile, didn't show up for the review, must have defaulted on his loans and quietly sold the car for cash...
That interior is beautiful and not filled with screens that ruin the elegant theme, like the S-Class in my opinion. I'm a Lexus man so I'm looking forward to what they do with the LS, but props to Genesis for making a great effort in the luxury sedan market.
The BMW talent poaching is really showing in the suspension design of these rear wheel drive Hyundai products. That rear multilink looks just like an F-series RWD BMW setup with the addition of the rear steer module.
The absolute randomness that Mark plays on the infotainment in each car review is why I love this channel
Explain. Like what songs?
@@daniedeklerk1914 2:13
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
That takes me back. I feel old now.
Intelligence relevant information with a sense of humor
“When you spend $100,000 on a car, you don’t want to fiddle-fuck around with the controls”
Bingo.
What a great luxury car.
Yes! I never want to fiddle fuck with controls.
That's a term I'm going to try to remember
Spending 100k on a Hyundai is a L
@@MV-nt4bq Could say the same about Toyota but people still buy Lexus. Gotta see things in perspective.
@@MV-nt4bq Genesis W
The ability to change the color temperature of the interior illumination is absolutely incredible.
In most use cases, this is more useful than ambient lighting RGB stuff. I don't know how expensive it is but its certainly a feature that would be neat if it caught on.
Just another Mercedes tech copycat
@@Tomoyo0827 it’s not a copycat? And everyone is taking ideas from each other now? It’s tech, what else can they do.
@@Tomoyo0827 Name one Mercedes that allows you to change the color temperature of the overhead lighting. Not ambient lighting, but actual overhead lighting.
48v hybrid, pop out door handles, wide screens, rear wheel steering, active noise canceling, soft close, automatic opening etc just copy and paste from other car manufacturers and you get Genesis. Its not bad car but they really need to step up and start the trends. They have always been trend follower. You see German brands innovative each year, you see Korean brand copying each year.
I absolutely love the Art Deco styling of the G90. It's like a 1930s streamliner.
Except it looks way more fleshed out, in my opinion.
Strongly agreed, love me some art deco.
@The Night How? This is probably the most distinctive car in its class
@@santileonsteinberg1441 What now? Floating horizontal screens and big center console... How is that distinctive? Its like 1 gen back Mercs, Caddies,... Then you have the back end of the front seats still looking like S-Class ripoffs. Their head of design is an ex VAG ffs. He's been ripping of bits of design from every european brand. The rotary Jaguar controls, Audi's slopping roofs,...
Yup. It is beautiful.
I bought a ‘15 Genesis Sedan (Early G80) on a whim, and a lot of my friends made fun of me cause they thought I should’ve gotten a coupe. Then they all rode in it.. Lexicon Audio, the best cooled seats I’ve ever had, was decently quick, comfy as hell to ride in, and a great cruising car. It got totaled thanks to a Prius but damn that car took the hit well, and the safety features were great. Been really happy to see this brand slowly evolve into a very modern competitor to the 3 brands that have been around for ages.
Oh man! That sucks! Glad you lived to tell the tale.
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 Thank you, not even a scratch on me and minor pain overall. It was impressive. The sunroof opened instantly, 911 was called, the doors unlocked, and windows went down if I recall. Engine still wanted to turn over in the yard too.
A Prius? Fuck man. What an unfortunate way for such a beautiful machine to be taken out.
@@Annexation_ I know, it was almost meme like honestly. Some older lady wasn't sure if she could make it and she went for it then froze in the middle of the street cause me to hit her and bounce into her daughters car as well. It was even that ugly light light green that they made. I ended up with a 2015 Mustang GT and honestly have loved every second of it. I was trying to find a 16+ 5.0 Ultimate but none were available so I got a different 5.0 lol
@Ouchwitz Summer Camp LLC They're gel packs, that's why they work so well. I miss that feel of freezing my ass out in the summer with those seats. I wanted a 5.0 but couldn't find it in time :/
After listening to the Mark speaking during the drive, I can now appreciate the effort Genesis put into making the cabin quiet.
Mark honestly sounded like he was stationary in the G90.
I agree
I noticed
I’ve been Lexus lover my entire life , but Genesis is becoming my favorite brand today ..
Same. The G80 will probably replace my GS unless the next Gen ESh gets AWD.
i just they fully adopt multiport injection like Toyota. 2000's Hyundai/Kias were Toyota tier reliable mostly. But direct injection engines I went back to Toyota.
The G90 is multiport like Toyota, we can pray it becomes the norm.
Toyota reliability for all Hyundai's again and with soft touch everywhere, and without map pockets that cut your fingers like an old Corolla/Camry.
10 years later the Lexus still works the genesis is a mystery
ive always tought why people dont just buy prius prime and wear some light ear covers, ear muffelers or whatever their called, to reduce precived windnoise etc. most the time, its only driver alone anyway, u dont need such thing for every passenger. i hear its illegal ti apprently have stuff covering ears for saftey reasons, but ive seen hearing aid sort of earbuds that play high qaulity sound since their so close to ears, maybe they could do noise canceling or just have a level of violent noise reduction material that can be switched on or off like plastic earbud sound reducers for gun use
@@on-site4094 Genesis is Hyundai, which has been around for quite some time now and their reliability is quite good. Also, almost no one keeps their cars for a decade anymore, especially luxury cars.
Lots of channels showcase the features of the cars and trucks being reviewed, you guys are the only channel that explains the why and how of those features. Great vid as always.
What are you saying?
@@whitemailprivilege2830 what are you asking?
@@jesserhodes7430 my question is what are you saying?
@@whitemailprivilege2830 I enjoy the way they go over in detail, all of the features of the vehicles; the suspension, engine, steering components, and further explain the reason and reasoning of why the engineers made the decisions they did.
@Owen Hill what are you asking?
Genesis interiors are the best in the business at the moment. Perfect blend of tech, ergonomics, materials and comfort
gotta say, this and BMW 7 series are two best interior in the class if not the best on sale, but u know how the 7 series exterior look..
Bmw and porsche are way way ahead of genesis with crappy door hardware and no trunk room. Raising the car 20 or 30 mm is not enough for crappy roads in the us.
@@cayman9873 u literally nitpicking something everyone get pass by and would happily trade for a cheaper but better design interior
Sclass and bmw...THEN g90 and audi
@@cayman9873 porsche interior is lack luster...except taycan
I just saw the gv60 ,4 new g80.. 2 new g70, 2 gv70 and 3gv80..all in the same day...these cars are selling crazy
Genesis has accomplished what Lincoln was trying to do in the 80's and 90's with the Continental and Town Car but couldn't. Class competitive technology, build quality and dynamics with a focus on luxury (not sport) at a slightly lower price point. To be fair, the current Lincoln Continental mostly accomplishes that goal but nobody seemed to notice.
ah...but lincoln DID do it with the continental.
but it didn't sell.
and I know, you're gonnabash it...but then you have never driven it.
@@paulpellico3797 this probably won’t sell either the gv80 will probably sell 10 times more
The difference is that Hyundai/Kia already make this car for the Korean domestic market
I drove the Continental, as well as CT6, Jag XJ, and BMW 7. The Continental was nowhere near as good as any of them. The engine was loud and unrefined sounding, it wallowed around all over the place, it felt like you had to stand on the brakes to get it to stop, and the interior was not all that good. Current Lincoln SUVs are MUCH nicer inside than the Continental was.
@@therealSIRBOOM sirboom....
as usual, i would give my right arm if you could prove you drove one.
and it was nothing like the taurus.
entirely different platform...so what are you talking about?
at one time...lincoln sold over 5,000 of these anually, eventually dribbling down to around 1,200 per year before ending production.
oh, and for your info...
"How many G80 did Genesis sell in 2021?
Genesis sold 6,031 G80 in 2021. In 2020, Genesis sold 3,359 G80. They sold 2,672 more units in 2021 compared to 2020 with a percent gain of 79.55% YoY."
puleeeeeeze.
"Luxury Boat" is a good description. But, that sound system technology is outrageous. Bravo, Genesis. If you want a luxury sedan, here you go!
I bought a top trim GV70 a month ago and love it. I thought after a few weeks that I would find things I didn't like. I thought I would find things that just annoy me, but I don't have any. The vehicle is great. I love the ride quality and performance. I love the tech and the easy to use infotainment system. I love the way it looks inside and out. This G90 is on a whole new level of luxury. I don't ever see myself owning or wanting to own one but it sure is impressive.
This car has a very 1930s/40s art vibe to it - it reminds me of Captain Nemo's Nautilus car from The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, with hints of late 30s Bugatti as well. Like it or hate it, it's artfully designed and very eye catching. I love it.
The Kia Stinger turned me on to KDM cars 3 years ago. The G90 gave me respect for KDM luxury. So much so in fact that I picked up a 2012 Equus as my daily. Great vid SG
This thing is absolutely gorgeous and 100% unique. Hope it sells well.
This thing is absolutely gorgeous and 100% unique.
Always a big fan of the Korean brand (currently driving a Kia Sorento PHEV), look forward to seeing their home grown air suspension technology tickles down to the Hyundai and Kia brands and make it affordable.
$100,000 in 2022 is the equivalent to $87,000 in 2020. EVERYTHING IS AWESOME!! 🎶
Yet this car was available for $60,000 in 2020 brand new. The g80 sport was $47,000 now it’s $74,000.
@@devn3813it wasn’t $60 k. It was $73k-77k
@@MrGeezil after discounts there were tons of them for $65,000 by me.
This car looks phenomenal, but the previous generation also looked amazing and it still had the 5.0 V8. What a spectacular engine that was. The facelifted version of the previous generation commanded so much presence.
That's the one thing I'd miss - you can make the V8 sound amazing. However, I like that the exterior styling now matches their other vehicles, and that they added back the foot rest, air suspension, and added massaging seats like they should have always had. I love my car, but I felt like it was weird that the old Equus had some features than the current G90 doesn't.
They dumped it because they are building a presence in Europe and they want to meet regulations without having to sell a different variant in each market.
Love the reviews! HOWEVER - you said Hyundai/Kia haven't used air suspension previously - not true. The 2009-2016 Hyundai Equus (basically a G90 before Genesis) did have air as standard. I owned a 2012 for two years, was great.
This is first with dual chamber and read ahead. I should have clarified.
How much horsepower does an Equus have?
@@Dowlphin 429 hp when the 5.0 came out in 2012.
@@FracturedGoblin That's 428 more than I expected. 😉
@@Dowlphin That went right over my head at first lmao, good one!😆
What Hyundai and Kia are pulling off these days, at their price points, when they put their minds to it, is deeply impressive. The Ioniq5/EV6 are universally praised and the wait times to get one are brutal. The N products are very solid performance for money. Their crossovers and SUVs are well-rated and in demand. And going toe to toe with the established germans on luxurymobiles, and by now giving them quite a reasonable fight for much less money, is the icing on top.
Genesis has come a long way and I have a good feeling that they've probably already stepped ahead of Infinti and Acura.
Stepped ahead? Those two are absolutely irrelevant to Genesis, not even worth mentioning.
Infiniti is total crap these days. Their technology (electronic/mechanical) doesn’t even match Ford.
Genesis is at least 5 years ahead of Acura and Infiniti now. Those are absolutely obsolete in comparison.
@@duhduh14 at least 15 years ahead of Infiniti
@@WSOJ3 Infiniti/Nissan still have some top notch technical solutions... The VR engines are the first variable compression engines. Thats HUGE! Then there's the drive by wire technology, that a lot of people dont like but its easily the most advanced and promising one in the market. They pioneered that too. Their awd system is top notch too and their reliability is top5 (in part, because of how old they are). Right now Infiniti is on a very low level, yes, but they did deliver a good amount of great cars in the past. And lots of great innovations like the elctro-hydraulic steering in the M/Q70 (which is now used by Porsches and Mclarens), 360° cameras (first on production cars), 4 wheel steering,... Genesis are up to a promising start, in part thanks to all the money Hyundai pumps into them, but they've not brought anything truly revolutionary to the market. Even their overall design is purely european with no Korean character at all. Infiniti was at least a pure Japanese proposal. Even more so than Lexus or Acura whom always steered towards the american market.
This car needs a 240 volt fence around the catalytic converters that automatically energizes when the transmission is shifted into Park.
All cars need that these days!
That sounds amazing.
It would make the root problem even worse, though.
We have to stop implementing expensive, elaborate countersound systems to quiet the alarm sirens.
You definitely need that in your bed...
They do make some nice cars. I see a lot of last gen G80 sports in my area and I like them. Might pick one up used 😊
it's an S class rival that looks more at home standing toe-to-toe with a bentley. massively impressive stuff, genesis is absolutely killing it
Wow - Genesis really went to town on this car. I love it, because it is a reminder what a true big size sedan was always about - comfort and luxury above all. So I am glad they didn't go the way of AUDI S8, BMW M750 etc - which is nonsense. If you want sports car - buy a sports car. This is for getting pampered and just enjoy the drive and relax. Basicaly a Bentley at bargain price. and better quality. Bravo Genesis!
You are right, but BMW, Audi, etc has a lot of engines and suspensions. So they have the comfort and luxurious.
I think the button to open and close the doors is an awesome feature and should be included in all luxury cars..some car doors are pretty heavy and the button makes life easier
I have been driving Audi and Mercedes vehicles the last 10 years. Really think my next purchase will be a Genesis. They are just putting out great cars, and not just for the money.
And you won't see yourself coming and going
get a Lexus
You also get a 10-year 100,000 mile warranty. That’s what’s selling me compared to the Germans.
yep same really liking what Genesis has been doing in recent years. the only thing I would check is check your local genesis/hyundai dealership to make sure there is a decent one in your area. I think if you have a decent dealership from them near you then it really is a great choice
With this level of quiet, Mark should have worn a monocle.
I prefer this design in every single way to the new S-Class
Agreed. I find the modern Mercs quite repulsive.
The exterior of the current S Class isn't bad, but the interior...yeah, certainly much more restrained and tasteful in the Genesis.
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What's going on with BMW and Mercedes? Their recent designs are just awful.
@@doubledown8229 They've gone away from classic elegance and going with bold everything. It's supposed to make each new model seem like being worth upgrading, but I think they've undermined their own design principles. There's no continuity anymore. They're experimenting too much, trying to see what sticks. I think the less prestigious names are doing it better now. There's more consistency, fewer shock elements, and more identifiable design language through the whole fleet. BMW interiors aren't too bad, but the exteriors are poor. Mercedes is just ugh. These cars are going to age very poorly. I think they will be seen in a similar way to malaise era cars from the 70s.
My issue with Mercedes is them following the Russian Doll design. Your S Class shouldn't look like an A class. There's nothing wrong with having some family resemblance, but each vehicle should have the own unique look.
Genesis is probably the brand I would buy if I needed a luxury comfort car and didn’t want a sports sedan. Really align with Mark on this interior. It is so refreshing.
This is an excellent effort from Genesis. If Genesis keeps this up, they can finally earn the recognition they deserve. People just say “ oh, it’s just a glorified Hyundai and crap”, but no, the genesis brand is a totally different league than Hyundai with everything different. Would I choose this over an S Class or A8? No, but I’d certainly choose it over the new 7 series, and the Lexus LS. Mark explains the g90 very well. I will listen to mark, not badge snobs.
The new 7 series has a lot of presence. It would be my choice if money was no object.
@@dragospahontu that is true. But I’m not a fan of the front.
@@bradleyscarreviews understandable, but the electric version will make it the best in class.
@@dragospahontu that is true.
This is my perfect car - the ultimate isolation / relaxation hwy cruiser. I just need it to be an ev (I can no longer tolerate the ICE drone) and a higher riding crossover.
Hyundai is killing the game right now
I agree.
You 100% right..
Those door handles are perfect for Minnesota winters.
I was just thinking Geese should test this in one of our IL winter ice storms and see how long it takes to get into your car. Or maybe the owners of this only park in heated garages at home and work.
You betcha! New Hampshire winters too.
You watch any review of an S-Class today and the controls are so over-the-top confusing I couldn't fathom driving one. This seems more down to earth and approachable
Having the turn signal chime in the seat is absolutely genius. That should be in every car
A bigger concern is simply getting people to actually use the turn signals, no matter from where the chime emanates...
How is that absolute genius? What's the amazing benefit over just having it radiate unoffensively from the general dashboard area?
I suspect I would hate announcer stuff to come from directly behind my head.
@@Dowlphin With that configuration chime sound might be quieter so backseat passenger(s) would barely hear it, if even.
@@axel-11 Chime sound? You mean door not closed properly? It is hard to miss even in the back seats, and there is no problem making it a bit louder because it should be very audible, due to being safety relevant, and how often does a back seat passenger forget to close the door properly? If because of that it has to be slightly louder from the front, I see no issue there. To the contrary, it might be kids back then, so parents in the front want to know if their kids didn't close the door properly.
@@Dowlphin No, I was talking about any driver related sounds, and in particular -aforementioned in first comment turn signal chime. I assume car manufacturer would like to isolate driver (and his functions with all blows and whistles and those chime sounds) from backseat passenger (and his/her comfort and tranquility). Probably the idea of putting speaker in headrest is similar to something I had experience with in some high-class taxi service - the driver had a headphone in his ear to hear direction advices from navi system, so passenger would not hear them and would be able to relax with more comfort and in silence if needed.
At least through the videos, the new G90 seems even quieter than the current S-Class. Genesis did a great job sound deadening the cabin!
Y'all got me good with "Why do testicles droop?" at 2:16
I like the change of scenery for the driving portion of the video, nice touch for a luxury car review haha.
It’s so good to see how far the group has come. I owned a corporate training company in Seoul back in the day ad Hyundai/Kia was a client. We’d have discussions with the engineers and designers about the group getting into Motorsport and improving their designs. I would encourage them to be more confident about what they can do so that they can avoid gimmicks and over-design trap.
Honestly looks better on the inside than the new S class.
Wow, this is really beautiful and that interior is something else. Surprised that I haven’t seen these on the road before.
A beautiful & luxurious vehicle. Genesis has really cornered the market when it comes to lazy door handles
the folks who do the headlights / tail lights / wheel design...give them all a big fat raise...ridiculously good
Thrilled that Genesis is maintaining a strong trend of tasteful, restrained design with an almost '50s bent on brightwork and the "marble" trim. I am curious, since I've noticed it on Genesis from day one - are the silver interior brightwork elements still a cheap plastic feeling when you're pressing them? That always aged poorly in my experience, and I hope they fixed that issue. They've come a very long way in the last 10 or so years - looking forward to seeing how they continue to improve.
They feel good, but living in Texas they get so hot you can get burned. G80 speakers on front doors are ones you can burn your knee with.
Real metal, not plastic.
@@mojojojo_BB if that's the case, that's excellent. However, in every Genesis product for the first couple of model cycles, it was cheap, silver plated plastic that felt horrible and looked worse after the first owner got ahold of it.
true to your journalistic roots with an IT flair, you've gone native to us Koreans, and that's not a bad thing-thanks for your review US army guy who happens to be also native with Jack...
Thank you for this review. I’ve waited for this car to get to this country and into the hands of auto reviewers here for in depth reviews. Love this car inside and out. Thanks Mark!
The profile @ 18:09 is gorgeous. Low front overhang, design around the c-pillar, the rim design are all beautifully laid out. Looks like no other luxury car in its class. Nothing overly controversial. Well done Genesis….
i dont like the rear window lines they dont line up with anything. they shouldve specialized in old school aesthetics and ease of use interioir, with switches that have base heavy clicking sound and some phsycal resistence to being moved, etc. they already have quite a aesthetic focus like lexus lc500. they couldve have allowd screen to be manually coverable with wood veneer like a manual and more simple version of what is in bently continental, without the pshycal gauges, or at least allow it to be turned off when not in use. simplyfy the front end more like the genesis EV, to make whole thing look more similar at every angle of car and not busy at front and plain everyhwere else. a hole through passenger seats would allow storing long objects including rear seats legs etc while allowng more trunk storage space
@@kalmmonke5037 not expecting it to be universally loved. I think its far less controversial than anything else in its class. Not too plain or extreme…
I love the exterior and interior design... can't fault a single thing about it. All the undercarriage work is impressive.
I could hear actual enthusiasm, this must be really impressive. Shame about the V6 but I guess that's how things are going.
interior color temperature is an absolute godsend that will make the cabin feel a lot nicer.
You’re absolutely correct. I remember when European brands bragged that their ergonomics in relationship to interior controls was that each individual button felts so different from the one next to it that you could feel the differences in the dark and that way you didn’t have to fiddle fuck around.
it looks so soft as if background / nature is added later as CG
Just incredible what that company is doing. .. . Best luxury used vehicle for the money hands fmdown!!
Interior looks fantastic
Currently in a '21 Volvo S90 T6 Momentum. Seriously considering the G90 for my next lease. 👌🏼
Interior looks classy, well done!
Once again, stellar performance on your review. FYI - I am a fan of the Hyundia KIA driving technology. I think it is second to Tesla. I am referring to the HDA (Highway Drive Assistance). I drive about 4000 to 4500 miles per month previously in Telluride, currently in a K5. My next ride will be either the G70 or G80. Thanks for what you do for us!
Telluride to K5 ? How
G80 for so much commuting
Well at least for now all I can do is appreciate the fantastic work you guys do in bringing this to us. Appreciating this car is for another day.
I’ve definitely become a fan of Genesis and Kia, especially after my 2023 Kia Sportage X-Pro purchase & reviews and specifications of their products. Great 👍🏾 Review too.
The door pops open but doesn’t open all the way is a safety feature. You don’t want some random car driving the down street taking your door off if you are street parked and getting out of your car.
good point
Perfect shade of brown for when the heated seats melt the poop out of me.
A low mileage, heavily depreciated example in a couple of years will make this an absolute luxury bargain.
Why would it be a bargain? Why do you think heavy depreciation would occur here?
@@Dowlphin because it is a luxury car. In 10 years this will cost as much as a well equipped Corolla, if there will be a Corolla in 2032...
@@dragospahontu That's no answer to the question.
@@Dowlphin no one will want to maintain this car in 10 years, this is why it will be cheap.
@@dragospahontu Why would no one want to maintain it then?
incredible, but great, that the manufacturers have given up on trying to solve the DI build up issue and going back to dualportinjection.
ford did it on all their ecoboost engines, the koreans are now following.
Ever-more complicated technology and more resource investment just to drive an ideological agenda into extremely diminishing returns.
True genius improves through simplicity.
Nurturing abundance is the way. Instead we have a demon couple from hell: capitalist scarcity teamed up with ecofascist scarcity in a pretend-opposition for perfect divide-and-conquer entrapment into servitude of Master Fear.
@@Dowlphin my golly...someone after my own heart. my son sit with me every evening until my neck surgery in two weeks...and we go on n on about this very same thing.
we even internet searched the BEST and LEAST electronically compromised vehicles.
and not many...actually zero being sold new right now.
so he decided to look into building from kits, but they were all goofy, sports cars looking like cobras replicas OR tubes on wheels!!!!!
@@paulpellico3797 Yeah, I guess the older used models get sold to other regions of the world. And of course as more time passes, pre-surveillance models get ever-rarer.
They'd rather sacrifice safety technology before they sacrifice data harvesting technology. The power priorities are clear.
It really saddens me because I cannot get comfortable with used cars, especially very old ones, and I got my own not roadworthy in a garage, cannot imagine a better era (2000, with older engine) and don't see a prospect for getting it in proper condition anymore. I don't even know whether I could if I wanted or need to move away. I put a lot of devotion into it but was then robbed of the fruits, now feeling like I will end up not ever owning a car anymore.
@@Dowlphin what car do you have garaged?
My don and I, even though he's not a car guy, get auction updates every day...and soo many make me wanna buy!!
But until spring, I can't
@@paulpellico3797 I got a Corolla with a 3S-GTE. It's like a spiritual connection I have to that car. I went through so much torment with it, including 5-years-long lawsuit against corrupt judges.
I got a video of it on my channel. If you sort by most-viewed, it's near the top.
Wow. Still driving my 2012 (Hyundai) Genesis. 100k is out of my range though…. Have winter tires on 17s, put pilot sport summers on 18s, the ESC no longer activates, car just hooks up.
2013 2.0T Premium here. New rubber, Pilot Sport 4S, transformed it's cornering and still get over 30 MPH on the highway.
@@dallasangler slow down before you kill somebody
I have been waiting for this review, thanks for all your hard work.
The power closing doors is a feature you used to get on Rolls-Royce vehicles, until recent Maybach vehicles & now this which is essentially the least expensive luxury car that has that feature
9:35 Thank you for the dual injection discussion in terms of rattling noises at low RPM. The Mercedes 4 cylinder c250 of 2012-1014 sounded almost like a diesel at low RPM.
Absolutely stunning, inside AND out🔥🔥
Hopefully they address the door handles. I saw they got rid of the touch buttons on the steering wheel in the GV70 and went back to regular buttons for 2023MY.
The drivers seat sounds comfortable. I must have my owner upgrade his 2013 s class to this Uber quiet 2022 genesis g90. He probably won’t notice the slight detour from his weekly Thai massage
As a Maybach owner (2011 model), I am impressed by the Genesis G90 and would seriously consider purchasing the g90. Truly, Genesis has arrived 🎉.
This is how an S-class used to be. Not all this touch crap, but great buttons, amazing haptic feedback, look and overall feel. Not one giant shitty screen and black plastics. If you get these used after a couple of years for around 40k. I would totally buy this
Laminated glass all around should be standard or an option for every premium car. Huge safety bonus imo.
I realize that Lexus/Toyota, Infiniti/Nissan and Acura/Honda had to overcome the same issue but 100K for a Genesis/Hyundai that in most markets is sold and serviced from a dealership that sells both brands......
The service experience is a concern. The Kia/Hyundai shops I've been in have had more in common with a Mexican post office than a Mercedes or Lexus service department.
This is a huge concern - the customer service experience is a massive part of ownership, and Lexus is big on the "concierge" part, from IS to LS. Mercedes seems to do this well also, and BMW is hit or miss. Apparently the few stand alone Genesis dealers do this right, but that seems to be far from the norm. I wouldn't want to spend that much money and have a sub-par service experience every time an oil change is due.
Not so much anymore as standalone genesis dealerships are popping up everywhere.
FOR THE MONEY, i'm very impressed with this generation of Genesis, esp GV80, G80, and G90. THey are now truly a cheaper alternative to same class but more expenisve alternatives which to be frank they werent before
HYUNDAI 从未放弃自己制造豪华汽车的梦想，而全新G90发布之后更加验证了这一点，这是HYUNDAI 的追求
This car is an absolute masterpiece!
I'm really curious to see how the new air suspension feels compared to the existing one, and what difference the active noise canceling makes. One thing I thought was odd is that although my G90 is very quiet, it isn't unbelievably so. My previous Genesis sedan was noticeably quieter after I added more sound dampening materials all over the place, so I know there is room to go.
Luxury should be simple. I could never understand why the car companies think that people who can afford these ultra Luxury cars have the time or patience to figure out a complicated infotainment system. I really like what Is Hyundai has done with this car.
As a Korean who's been quietly rooting for Hyundai/Kia since the 90s, slowly seeing the comment section from mostly hate in the 2000s, then a good mix of hate and love in the 2010, and now in 2020's I can see most comments are positive. What a great stride this company has made. They have been in the business for only a fraction of other companies and they are killing it!
Amen to that!
To be fair, the problems extended to engines that were in production even in 2016.
I can often tell how quiet a car is by how little background noise is in it review. Great investment in audio equipment guys
My guy rockin' that phantasy star OST compilation. Takes me back to my childhood. Hell yeah!!!
It's a shame that the owner of the previous gen, Mark Burgervile, didn't show up for the review, must have defaulted on his loans and quietly sold the car for cash...
Gorgeous interior and exterior.
Having someone like Mark in this car is hilarious. The hotel lounge martini muzak is a nice touch too.
😂
On top of everything everything else, your reviews have the best typography!
gorgeous vehicle
The front is like what kids think futuristic cars look like, after they watch robocop
Love your reviews. Wish my CX-5 Signature had that shade of brown leather.
Genesis. In the relentless pursuit for perfection. Getting better and better. Next vehicles: GV-90 and GT-90!
And after that, GT90 (fingers crossed GT80, GT70) Speedium. I actually have no clue if they are planning a GT/Speedium lineup but they should be!
0:40 dealbreaker right off the bat. If you’re going to make gimmicky door handles at least make them WORK smh
I get to take one of these out tomorrow for a two hundred mile road trip. Really looking forward to it!
Genesis Is the best luxury car maker out right now screw the haters this car is absolutely stunning
That interior is beautiful and not filled with screens that ruin the elegant theme, like the S-Class in my opinion. I'm a Lexus man so I'm looking forward to what they do with the LS, but props to Genesis for making a great effort in the luxury sedan market.
Wow, amazing car! I had a 1974 Kia bicycle and believe me, Kia could barely make a bicycle then.
Just a beauty. Wow! Buy it used for $60k in 4 years
The BMW talent poaching is really showing in the suspension design of these rear wheel drive Hyundai products. That rear multilink looks just like an F-series RWD BMW setup with the addition of the rear steer module.
Why Koreans can’t make their own car like Japan with Lexus and Acura. You can see Genesis is mix of other cars.
"Poaching". I guess if that's what you call hiring previously retired people? It only makes sense to hire people with experience in the industry 😴.
interior looks cozy af
Great video as always. Much appreciated.
As for Genesis...love the product, hate the dealerships.