Scythe Automa Tutorial Walkthrough
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2017
- A tutorial/walkthrough of how to use the Automa to play Scythe solo. That automa has many different move actions it can do and deciphering just how to execute them can prove challenging and some people have given up altogether. Hopefully this helps show how break it down in action so that more people can enjoy this game even when they have no one to play against!
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NOTE:
At 33:14 the correct space would have been the factory as it was in the neighborhood of 5 automa units. It wouldn't have had any effect on the game though and on a later move worker I did put a worker there.
I did count up my territories wrong at the end giving myself an extra one so I was still pretty short of a tie even if I had one more turn. If I had given myself the popularity recruit early on, I would have been in third tier of popularity earlier and with maybe a better combat or a couple more points elsewhere I probably would have won.
Also, on the final turn when the Automa attacked, I forgot to consider the Character as a combat unit and it would have been the one selected to attack as it is the same distance from home base as the mech I selected, but breaks the tie with reading order. So even though the character would have left the factory, they would have left their worker there effectively gaining a territory on the final turn of the game. So I would have been and ADDITIONAL 3 points behind. sigh - Ігри
Thanks a lot for the video! I have played twice with Automa, but was still not quite sure about movement. It helped a lot watching this. Also fun to watch how you got more excited the longer you played. :)
Haha thanks and i'm glad you enjoyed it! Let me know if you ever have any questions.
Thank you for making this video. It was so difficult finding anyone that wasn't constantly making mistakes through their play through.
Thanks, Jared! I definitely pride myself on playing correctly. Will always probably be a mistake here or there, but I hope never too many. I bet we all make more mistakes than we think. If we had recordings of everything and reviewed we'd be like...oh dang...whoops! :D I hope you'll check out anything else I have that interests you and if not, let me know what you'd like to see. Maybe I could oblige!
Thank you so much for this! I wasn't sure if i was playing correctly because I was still pretty confused on how the movement works. Your tutorial cleared everything up for me! Gonna try Automa again in a few days!
So glad you enjoyed it and it helped. That's why I made it! :) Many people talked about how it was hard to learn but once you get it, you get it!
I was very confused about the automa moves and this helped a LOT! Thank you for making this video.
You're very welcome I'm glad it helped that's why I made it a lot of people expressed having trouble figuring it out. Once you get it, it's so easy!
Thank you Shane and Stuff, definitely easiet to get into the solo game with a video like this. Very helpful.
Ps: you might beat him next time, keep going :p
Great tutorial, thanks! Just got Scythe this weekend and will be trying out the Automa soon. :)
I have owned this game for a while and finally got it to the rotation for some solo play. Your video was excellent in describing movement and attacking. I'm going to start on easy mode LOL and then proceed from there. Just wanted to say great job and you now have a new subscriber!
Excellent! It took me 2 or 3 tries on the easiest to beat it, but I had only played one game before that. If you're experienced with it multiplayer, you shouldn't have a problem as long as you don't take too long.
@@ShaneandStuff It's going to be strictly solo for me but I did beat the automa twice on the easy mode, the first game by 1 point! I'll probably play 1- more times and then move up the difficulty level. Thanks again for the great job on the videos!
@@afjb1234 You are welcome! It's all for the love of the games!
Thanks for tutorial, very crisp and clear editing.
You're welcome I'm glad you enjoyed it thank you for the comment!
This is the best Automa explanation video out there! Thanks a lot. Just a note about an error that I spotted at 34:30. You moved your mech and character to a mountain from a tunnel. However this move was invalid as you can only move between a mountain you control and a tunnel - not to just any mountain.
Dang you are right! The weird thing about this is after looking this ability up, the faction board just says "move between any mountain you control and any tunnel" which would make me think you can only go from mountain you control to tunnel, or vice versa. But in the rules it actually says you can move from mountain you control to mountain you control. DANG! just goes to show no matter what is written on the boards I think you always have to check the rules until you've memorized everything because often the description on the board is not quite complete. Thanks for the complement and the correction!
Shane and Stuff yeah it's a bit ambiguous on the board I agree. Looking forward to your next play through vid!
I thought about that ability again this morning and am like, moving from mountain to mountain wow that's pretty awesome. Of course it has to already be controlled so that's the balance but, using that ability wisely you could spread out like crazy maybe for end game controlling more territories. Secure mountains and tunnels early, use them to get around fast. Man I hope I get to play this game more in the new year. I just got both expansions and all the upgrades (metal coins, realistic resources, the board extension) so I've definitely got some content to tear through! I'll have to make another solo playthrough vid with all the upgrades and one of the expansion factions!
Excellent tutorial! Thank you.
I'm glad you liked it and hope it helps!
You affirmed that I'm playing Automa correctly. Thank you.
Awesome and you're welcome! Glad I could help!
Oops... you counted Home Base as a territory during final scoring at 56:23. I know it didn't make a difference in determining the winner, but I mention it for people trying to learn the rules. I gave this video a thumbs up.
Ugh. Right you are! Sometimes trying to keep everything straight while making a good video and keeping things moving it's so easy to make mistakes. So l lost by even more lol. Thanks...thanks a lot. :D
Oh I just noticed I already had this in a note in the description lol.
Nice tutorial but you made a mistake at 15:48. You moved the Automa character onto the wrong encounter token. That one already has an Automa mech in it, therefor it is an invalid target as you cannot have two Automa combat units in the same territory. Its character should have moved into the encounter token north of the Automa's home territory. Edit: Ah, you caught it a little later and corrected it.
Thanks Joseph! I first saw your message pop up and I thought "ugh, I made another mistake?" lol. Glad I caught this one. Hopefully my few honest mistakes add to the learning experience. That should have been obvious though since you can never have two automa combat units in the same space. Sometimes it's tricky keeping all that stuff in your head. Thanks again!
Hi and thank you for the video, really like it and find useful! Just a question on Mech move at minute 28:21. Should you not move the mech underneath the Character on the lake as it is close to more numbers of Automa units even if the cards states at the end to get as close as possible to the enemy?
Thanks
Nope. As the card says shortest distance to enemy combat units. The purpose of non-attacking move mech is to get the automa in the neighborhood of an enemy so that when an attack card comes up they are in the neighborhood and will attack. If the automa gets an attack move but none of their units are adjacent to the enemy, the move is skipped. You only execute moves which meet all the requirements, and you always execute exactly as written. I hope this helps!
to add to that putting the mech on the lake under the character would not meet the requirement of being closest and there is nothing in non-attacking move mech that says to put it next to most automa units. That's part of the move worker.
Shane and Stuff got you, thanks for the clarification 😊
Glad to help thanks for watching! Let me know if any further questions come up!
Great!
yeahyeahyeah0yeah glad you like it!
You won that last fight against automa according to the open property 2nd from you right which gives to your opponent -2 to add to its power during the fight on the territory with the tunnel , so 7 + 3 - 2 = 8 against your 9 points )
I wish that had been the case. I'm assuming you're talking about the disarm ability and the way that ability works is it subtracts from total power before combat. So in this case the automa had 16 power and it would have been 14 which is still 7 + 3. :(
It seems like you could theoretically play multiple automa with a single deck if you just select the appropriate side of the card depending on where individual automa players are in their star trackers. It would work a little differently, but it should function just fine, right?
Theoretically this would "work" as in be playable. Not sure how it would ultimately play out though or if it would possibly have any weird issues for balance or difficulty if each automa is always executing the same moves (unless and until more than one is in a different place on the star tracker). I wonder if they would get to the same place at the same time or, since each move has requirements that could vary, if they would play out differently. Heck sounds like seeing how it goes would be worth trying! Let me know if you try it! There are also apps, and webpages (I think) so you could have more than one automa running off different decks without needing more physical decks.
@@ShaneandStuff I did end up trying it with two automa and another human player. I felt like I wasn't doing everything quite right since I haven't used automa all that much, but I thought it worked fairly well. It was functional anyway. I think each automa just moved a little slower than usual, but I didn't mind that with another human player because I really just wanted the automa to be an additional obstacle rather than something to actually compete against. For that I thought it worked alright. I would do it again. 👍🙂
@@tater4434 Awesome! Even if not done perfectly it's definitely great to be able to put more on the board to strategize around. While a 2 player game of Scythe can be good, it can also be pretty unbalanced. I think it's a much better game with more factions on the board.
We tried 2 Automas with one deck during development, but it didn‘t work out. There can be a huge swing (advantage/disadvantage) to one Automa, dependent in how the cards will be distributed between the decks. There might be some games where it works, but that‘s pure luck, while others might fall apart, die to bad card distribution. We recommend playing with a full deck for each Automa.
10:52 Wouldn't the worker move to the hex the previous worker was on Why isn't that a valid hex? The tiebreaker would be reading order no? Or what am I missing?
Correct. This was pointed out previously by Laszlo Czigledzky. Please see his comment and my answer.
@@ShaneandStuff Ok thanks, missed that :) I'm trying desperately to learn since all my friends stopped playing after some fighting about the rules haha... xD
@@nihlify That's unfortunate. There's not really anything to fight about. The rules are quite clear and there are clarifications and FAQ's on Boardgamegeek.com as well as the Scythe facebook page. I guarantee there's nothing to argue about. Someone is right. And if someone doesn't want to play a game by it's rules, then it's probably better to not play with them anyway. I hope you get it down and enjoy. :)
Great video dude but.......... You actually did win!!!! The automa mech attacked your mech on a tunnel and, as you were Saxony Faction one of the mech abilities is "Disarm" (Before combat on a territory with a tunnel, opponent gets -2 power) You beat the mech by one combat power. You would of then received a star which would of broken the tie that you thought you had.
I wish that were true. But it isn't for two reasons.
1. I was Rusviet. Automa was Saxony.
2. The disarm ability applies to the power track. Not to the power committed in battle. So since Automa was full before battle it wouldn't have made a difference. They still would have spent 7. :(
It's kind of cool it came so close though for that battle. Makes for a good video! I'm thinking of doing a pure play through in the near future. No explanations just playing.
Shane and Stuff. Haha my bad! 😂😂 Take no notice of me mate, I was half drunk when I watched it and thought I'd put in my two cents. Lol. Great video though dude. 😎
lol no worries I'm glad you enjoyed it and always appreciate input!
Wait a second, I was just re-reading this...I was saxony lol. What the heck was I talking about? But still, the ability wouldn't have made a difference.
Thank you for this video! At 33:14 doesn't the worker go to the fabric hex? It's 5 units within neighborhood.
I believe you are correct as well as the first person to ever spot that. Good job! Not sure why I missed that exactly. Probably just didn't think to count up that space for some reason. Thank you for pointing it out! It didn't seem to affect the game though and at 46:40 I actually did put a worker in the factory spot so I wasn't completely oblivious to it :) Thanks again!
I've also added this to the notes in the description. 😁
@@ShaneandStuff Thank to you! Great video, very useful and entertaining!
@@ashucas Very glad you enjoyed it.
You don't actually get to see which factory card the automa gets. You just remove one face down from the deck, randomly.
I guess technically you're right it says that in the full rulebook but the reference card just says it takes a random card. It leaves out the face down part. Not sure it makes that huge of a difference since when a human player takes a card it's put out face up. Kind of an odd rule, not sure I know the point or why they didn't say face down on the reference card.
Excellent video. Great job explaining. One complaint however. The music in the background was extremely annoying and the video would have been better if it was not there.
Suvorov928 thanks for the input. Some people enjoy having something in background some don't. I am sorry it annoyed you. I always try to get the music so it's not overpowering but creates a little ambiance. Thanks for watching!
10:50 You should have moved the worker that closest to the base.
I suppose you're right. I figured since they were both still confined to the homespace there's no where to go. But technically that worker would have moved to that empty space in the homespace area. At 15:10 that space did get a worker and everything was as it would have been so, in this case, it didn't affect the outcome. Thank you for pointing that out!
Great video, but the music is distracting.
Glad you liked it and thanks for the input! Some people enjoy having something in background some don't. I always try to get the music so it's not overpowering but creates a little ambiance. In 5 years, 10,000 views, 190 likes, only 2 people have complained about it which is in line with what I have found that is the majority of people like having a little background music.
I have never liked AI that is pretty much playing a different version of the game than you are.
I'm sure to be playing exactly the same would mean much more complication and time spent figuring out the Automas moves. Distilling it down makes it more playable and still you play largely the same. You don't want the Automa to get to the factory first. You don't want them to spread out too much. You don't want them to attack you before you're ready. It's still pretty close to a real opponent it just doesn't follow the same rules. Plus, you can play with as many as you want up to the max players for the game.