Scythe Automa Tutorial

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  • Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
  • Introduction 0:00
    Setup 0:56
    Basic Rules and Concepts 6:05
    Actions:
    - Move worker 14:57
    - Non-attacking move Mech 24:04
    - Non-attacking move Character 27:26
    - Encounter/Factory 28:20
    - Attack move vs worker 33:10
    - Attack move vs Combat unit 36:06
    Combat Resolution 37:37
    The Star Tracker (Scoring) 48:48
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  • @armandolizarraga8981
    @armandolizarraga8981 7 років тому +36

    The use of cilinders was an excellent solution for the examples. I will use them too when playing with the automa.

  • @giulianoliguori1786
    @giulianoliguori1786 7 років тому +63

    this is an example of how tutorial *should* be done :) ty :) !!

  • @jakersni9499
    @jakersni9499 7 років тому +91

    I hope this is some help to anyone using this tutorial:
    Introduction 0:00
    Setup 0:56
    Basic Rules and Concepts 6:05
    Actions:
    - Move worker 14:57
    - Non-attacking move Mech 24:04
    - Non-attacking move Character 27:26
    - Encounter/Factory 28:20
    - Attack move vs worker 33:10
    - Attack move vs Combat unit 36:06
    Combat Resolution 37:37
    The Star Tracker (Scoring) 48:48

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  7 років тому +7

      Thanks Jakers.
      I copied your list to the video description box

    • @jakersni9499
      @jakersni9499 7 років тому +2

      No probs. It's a great overview.

    • @Fishtank33
      @Fishtank33 6 років тому

      Jakers NI Brilliant! Thanks!!

    • @averywicker3545
      @averywicker3545 6 років тому

      Thank you!!!

    • @Portalmaster9351
      @Portalmaster9351 6 років тому

      Jakers NI I

  • @BadassBeazly
    @BadassBeazly 6 років тому +4

    This tutorial is very well done! It is detailed and delivered in a clear and patient manner . I read all the rule books and automa cards thoroughly before solo play and then watched your tutorial. The video brought everything into focus. Thank you for sharing your video. It is very helpful and appreciated.

  • @Fishtank33
    @Fishtank33 6 років тому +8

    You. Are. AMAZING!
    This tutorial is one of the best I've ever seen. Thank you.

  • @jagged1946
    @jagged1946 7 років тому +2

    This was a great video! Answered any questions I had about playing Automa. Well done!

  • @TheFamousECCLES65
    @TheFamousECCLES65 3 роки тому +2

    Just bought the game a couple days ago and thank goodness I found your brilliant tutorial. Really appreciate the effort you made, well done mate.

  • @ClarkSoulfly
    @ClarkSoulfly 5 років тому +21

    Man, I simply love you ! This is the only, and I mean it... The ONLY good tutorial for Scythe automa !
    You rock ! You speak slowly and clearly which is a good thing for me as a non native english speaker(i m french) .
    Thanks ! Liked ! And Subscribed !

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  5 років тому +2

      Wow. Thank you so much for your kind words. I‘m not a native speaker either, I guess that‘s why I keep it easy and slow :-) Have fun playing Scythe!

  • @conangoinham
    @conangoinham 5 років тому +4

    awesome job buddy -- thank you for spending the time. illustrations were very helpful.

  • @c00p3rm4n
    @c00p3rm4n 5 років тому +1

    There are a number of decent Scythe solo / automa tutorials but this is by far the best. Has clarified so many parts that I misunderstood. Excellent pace of presentation, easy to follow and high production quality. Thank you so much.

  • @santasuburbia
    @santasuburbia 5 років тому +1

    I appreciate you publishing this tutorial. It's an excellent way to learn the subtleties and rules. Thanks!

  • @dubalo
    @dubalo 5 років тому +2

    Well organized and explained. Thank you so much! I was so confused until I watched this video.

  • @miked5562
    @miked5562 6 років тому +4

    Amazing, thankyou for taking the time to do this! You are the real MVP.

  • @septendecim7390
    @septendecim7390 3 роки тому

    Great tutorial bud. I've been struggling with how to use the automa and this had made a lot of things clear. Especially the no two workers/combat units part. I kinda came to roughly assume that, but wasn't certain.
    Definitely giving this a like and will likely reference back to it if needed.

  • @JulietMcArthur
    @JulietMcArthur 3 роки тому +2

    This is a truly magnificent tutorial. Thank you so much for making this - you are a true tutorial video artist!

  • @ewok-breath
    @ewok-breath 2 роки тому +2

    This has been very helpful - thank you 😀

  • @BobsterRocks
    @BobsterRocks 7 років тому +1

    Fantastic video. Played my first game today and got lost regarding moving workers etc. regarding neighbourhood. This has helped a lot. Thank you.

  • @DorettePeters
    @DorettePeters 7 років тому

    Very well made and very helpful tutorial for Scythe Automa.
    Good job!
    Thumbs up.

  • @ImAnerd568
    @ImAnerd568 6 років тому

    Great video! The automa manual was confusing in regards to automa movement, but this video cleared everything up for me. Highly recommend watching this video, then reference manual if needed.

  • @MrSuperdelf
    @MrSuperdelf 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much! I just received this game and learned how to play my faction very quickly, but the automa was almost like learning a whole new game!

  • @danroyer3949
    @danroyer3949 7 років тому +5

    thank you so much for this video!!! amazing job

  • @kirksellman1999
    @kirksellman1999 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent tutorial. Very helpful. Thank you.

  • @rjmc64
    @rjmc64 5 років тому

    Excellent tutorial! Everything is very clear. Thank you!

  • @ianmatthewkline8279
    @ianmatthewkline8279 5 років тому +10

    I think this dude narrating is the Rusviet leader's long lost lover, Viktor

  • @carulli32
    @carulli32 3 роки тому

    I just finished my second game of automa and your tutorial made me realize I wasn't playing it correctly. Thank you so much for doing this tutorial!!

  • @jeffrhind175
    @jeffrhind175 7 років тому +2

    This video was super helpful. Thank you!!

  • @rajbhangu9029
    @rajbhangu9029 7 років тому

    I hope you have more videos out there. This was great!

  • @KyawThurein
    @KyawThurein 4 роки тому

    I learnt a lot from you! The best way to teach how to handle Automa. Thanks a ton.

  • @boardgamesandwhiskyuk1646
    @boardgamesandwhiskyuk1646 7 років тому

    Great tutorial, I would like to see more like this for other games. Thank you.

  • @giacomobreschi2316
    @giacomobreschi2316 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing video thanks now it's clear! ❤️

  • @maktag7472
    @maktag7472 6 років тому +1

    Waouh !!! Amazing work, thank you very much !!
    I won't be long about the technical points but framing, staging are perfect !
    I wanted to insist on how clear your explanations are : well-structured, presentation plan and well-spoken voice and may be the most important thing for me : your perfect english accent. Indeed, I am french and it is a very big help to undestand every word.
    Go on like this, Iam your first french fan :)
    Thanks again...

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  6 років тому +1

      Mak Tag Wow! Thanks a lot, my frensh fan! Have fun gaming!

  • @bordspil_is
    @bordspil_is 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much, your explanations are amazing! Very thourough.

  • @RenbroNL
    @RenbroNL 3 роки тому

    Very in depth, really great. Thanks a lot!

  • @Redskies453
    @Redskies453 3 роки тому +1

    How can a tutorial be so complete yet so concise? 👏👏

  • @fardy316
    @fardy316 6 років тому

    Amazing tutorial ! Thanks for doing this.

  • @nvenda
    @nvenda 3 роки тому

    Great video! Congratulations!

  • @Copterman
    @Copterman 3 роки тому +1

    So helpful! Thanks! And I love how you say “icons.” :)

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  3 роки тому

      Thank you!
      You mean my pronunciation? 😬😁

    • @Copterman
      @Copterman 3 роки тому

      @@Lines42 Yes it's awesome!

  • @Chereebers
    @Chereebers 3 роки тому

    Wow, this is a great tutorial. Thank you! Am going to solo this once my kiddo goes back to school. 👍

  • @marcosandreorlando2011
    @marcosandreorlando2011 3 роки тому

    Awesome explanation!

  • @erikjanssen2080
    @erikjanssen2080 5 років тому +1

    Thank you so much for this video. You made me understand Automa and i really appreciate it!

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  5 років тому

      Thanks! Great it helped! It´s comments like these that make my day ;-)

  • @jmarac
    @jmarac 5 років тому

    Great job. Thanks for doing this 😎

  • @h34dsp1n
    @h34dsp1n 6 років тому

    Perfectly done! Thank you!

  • @NicholasMeyer515
    @NicholasMeyer515 6 років тому

    This is a great tutorial- thank you for sharing.

  • @Navplex
    @Navplex 2 роки тому

    really well explained - thanks

  • @romanarias9795
    @romanarias9795 2 роки тому +1

    thank you very much for this tutorial! very helpfull

  • @Blister77
    @Blister77 4 роки тому +1

    Top class. Thanks so much for this.

  • @colinwright27
    @colinwright27 7 років тому

    Excellent tutorial. Thanks.

  • @Whiskyjumper
    @Whiskyjumper 4 роки тому

    Fantastic! Thank you for this.

  • @StevenStJohn-kj9eb
    @StevenStJohn-kj9eb 5 років тому

    Really well done, thank you.

  • @marckaiser8452
    @marckaiser8452 6 років тому

    Well done! Thank you very much!

  • @CraydaysOnTube
    @CraydaysOnTube 7 років тому

    Great tutorial, thank you!

  • @philippepetit4284
    @philippepetit4284 6 років тому

    Very helpful ! Thanks a lot !

  • @yadayadayada
    @yadayadayada 4 роки тому

    Very pro and really helpful. Thank you!

  • @david-pt9oy
    @david-pt9oy 5 років тому

    Awesome tutorial!!!

  • @MjrLeegInfidel
    @MjrLeegInfidel 6 років тому

    Well done! Thank so much.

  • @williamodonnell3440
    @williamodonnell3440 4 роки тому

    Excellent tutorial thank you .

  • @carlrussell1288
    @carlrussell1288 3 роки тому

    Great tutorial!

  • @jenwashi921
    @jenwashi921 5 років тому +1

    Great video🎉👍

  • @veerchasm1
    @veerchasm1 7 років тому +9

    I wish this video had been out the 1st time I tried learning the Automa! All the others are rife with mistakes. Thank you

  • @Rabesandratana
    @Rabesandratana 4 роки тому

    Excelent tutorial

  • @briangonzalez6744
    @briangonzalez6744 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for your time and patience you put into this video. You do a wayyyyyyy better job than the instruction booklet stone meyers gives. Thats saying a lot 😊👌 Just thank you!

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  5 років тому +3

      Thanks Brian. Well, I was part of the design team and thus part of the team that wrote the booklet. Problem is that you only have so much space and have to boil it down to the essential infos. Unfortunately a booklet can never do the job as well as someone sitting down (or making a video) and explaining you a game, with visual examples, repetitions, etc.
      Happy to hear you like it :-)

  • @nilitsch
    @nilitsch 3 роки тому

    Fantastic tutorial. One question at 36:28: If the strength requirement is not fulfilled do I take then the second or third action in consideration or do I completely skip the move action (first line on top)?

  • @solo-board-gamer
    @solo-board-gamer 3 роки тому

    Best tutorial on Automa I saw until now! Question: @ min 21:54 I am not sure about the most top right yellow token, that hex neither adjacent to the base nor to any unit I think. Am I wrong?

  • @fredericmarin2814
    @fredericmarin2814 4 роки тому

    thang you for 2 things . the first i m pratice my english and the the seconde i m understand every things . your explications are perfect .

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  4 роки тому

      Thank you! I‘m practicing my my english too doing these videos :-) Glad to hear the video helped. Have fun!

  • @wart1321
    @wart1321 6 років тому

    Thank You

  • @DanielBRLima
    @DanielBRLima 2 роки тому

    The best tutorial ever...

  • @Daniel-xq4le
    @Daniel-xq4le 3 роки тому +1

    I have a question. If i am looking for a valid move hex without enemy units (my) in tbe neighbourhood: will the automa avoid tunnel hexes, if my units on an otber tunnel hex? Because my units could use tunnels...

  • @kikiishii8454
    @kikiishii8454 5 місяців тому +1

    Long time ago ... but at 20:20, why is the place with the encounter a valid hex? Because the Homebase have only the 2 hexes with the starting worker on it as neighborhood?

  • @Cursiiz
    @Cursiiz 7 років тому

    thanks!!

  • @gorkygorky
    @gorkygorky 4 роки тому

    On the encounter/factory card should *the factory and *hex with an encounter better be printed under number 4 choose destination? Same for *no enemy unit and *no automa mech, should it better be printed under 2 valid hexes.
    Because you say that this card is almost the same as the card “non-attacking move character” except for its destination
    Thanks for this tutorial. Best ever!

  • @Mark-OutWest
    @Mark-OutWest 5 років тому

    You should take great pride in this video! Well done! I don't get the whole crossed out star thingy. Isn't it graphically redundant to not only gray out the star but then to cross it out too? I guess they wanted to make sure we REALLY didn't miss that.

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  5 років тому

      Mark Thanks Mark. Yes, I guess it‘s meant to make it really clear! Better too much than not enough. Only graying out might not be obvious enough, especially for color-blind players. I saw (on BGG) you already found the card numbers?

  • @arthursimsa9005
    @arthursimsa9005 7 років тому +1

    12:32 Wait, the lakes are also in the neighourhood, since the faction is Polania. No?

  • @blkbird
    @blkbird 7 років тому +1

    At 20:20 you specify the rightmost farm as being in the neighborhood of the character, although previously you said that the character on the home base is never counted for neghborhood identification. Can you please tell me which of these conflicting rules is wrong? Thank you! And thank you for the excellent tutorial, very helpful.

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  7 років тому

      The placament is wrong. There is a caption in the video mentioning that. It might not show up on mobile devices or if you turned off captions.
      THanks for watching and paying close attention!

    • @blkbird
      @blkbird 7 років тому

      Lines42
      I checked before commenting, but I got a 'no caption available' message, so I figured you weren't using that method. Thanks for answering so quickly!

  • @veerchasm1
    @veerchasm1 4 роки тому

    At around 36:42 there is a scenario where the Automa has less than the required power to have combat. Rules say to skip combat, do you go to the next action on the line?
    This is still the greatest tutorial for the Automa on the net

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  4 роки тому

      You proceed to the next action in the line.

  • @leosalcedo3384
    @leosalcedo3384 3 роки тому

    The automa rule book sucks!!! You pick up the slack very nicely! Awesome explanations.

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  3 роки тому

      It does not suck. I used it as a guide for this video. Everything is there... it‘s just some parts of the system that is hard to wrap your head around. Once you‘re familiar with it and use the overview cards you can handle Automa turns pretty quick.
      Great to hear the video helped.
      Have fun!

  • @Mailit1987
    @Mailit1987 3 роки тому

    This is super helpful! Thank you so much!
    Qq: What happens if combat against Automa ends with a tie?

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks. The regular game rules apply. In Scythe ties go to the attacker.

    • @Mailit1987
      @Mailit1987 3 роки тому

      @@Lines42 Got it! Thanks!

  • @justinrrizzo
    @justinrrizzo 6 років тому

    I'm really confused by the language "other than the one selected in step 1" when it comes to moving an automa worker. It's the sentence in parenthesis in the last bullet. If it were the top worker being moved in 15:45, wouldn't the top hex and bottom left hexes valid? Normally the top hex would be excluded due to it containing a worker, but the statement "other than the one selected in step 1" cancels that rule out. Is this correct?

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  6 років тому

      Justin Rizzo I was switching back and forth here. Sorry, if this created confusion.
      1. The example is still about moving the worker from the base. I just squeezed a short „what if there was no worker on the base“ example in there and then put the worker back on the base :-(
      2. If there was no worker on the base and the top worker was moved, you are correct: the top space would be valid.
      3. In the end the „other than the unit selected“ rule means that a unit can move to the space it came from. You choose moving unit, determine valid hexes (including the one the moving unit is currently on). You pick up the unit, and if the it‘s space happens to be the target hex, place it back on the space you picked it up from. Note that this counts as movement.
      A common situation is that:
      a, riverwalk not unlocked yet.
      b, workers on all 3 hexes of the Automa‘s peninsula.
      c, no worker on the Automa‘s base.
      Let‘s take Rusviet (red, shown in the video). It‘d pick up the top worker and „move“ it to the space you just picked it up from.
      Hope this helps.

  • @dougmoore4653
    @dougmoore4653 7 років тому

    so automa once after the 6th star tracker can move over rivers.
    1) does it have to have the mech of riverwalk then to do so?
    2) does it only have riverwalk of the mech ability?

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  7 років тому

      Doug Moore This is a special ability all Automas have. And it's not only Rivers, they can also move onto lakes.
      Automas do never get or use the Mech/Character abilities unlocked when deploying mechs.

  • @Vonkater
    @Vonkater 6 років тому +1

    well explained just like college professor. :-)

  • @JulianAncestral
    @JulianAncestral 6 років тому +2

    fucking awesome tutorial... I´ll try this probably tomorrow afternoon...

  • @sorinpopescu1139
    @sorinpopescu1139 4 роки тому

    So, if a card tells you to move a mech, and you don't have a mech deployed on a territory or home base, you can't do that move, right? You must, first, have the deploy character/mech (can't remember the exact action name right now) in order to be able to do that move.

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  4 роки тому

      Sorin Popescu That‘s correct. Since Automa cannot perform the action, she‘ll proceed to the next action on the card.

  • @KSweeney36
    @KSweeney36 3 роки тому

    This is fabulous!! Could you please do this for Kanban EVs solo mode?

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you!
      If you send me Kanban EV I might consider doing it ;-)

    • @KSweeney36
      @KSweeney36 3 роки тому

      @@Lines42 Heck, for this quality, if I could afford it, I would. 😉

  • @makatski
    @makatski 2 роки тому

    how did the homebase ALREADY have a worker? and ... moved 2 hexes? should it be in this case, move the village worker to the oil, at timestamp 18:00? (about to play automa and is very confused how the remaining 6 workers come to play)

    • @makatski
      @makatski 2 роки тому

      to be clear, i am deaf and is relying on Chrome Transcribe since it does not have captioning so if it was explained, i did not catch it. please help. thanks

  • @joshuaelek
    @joshuaelek 7 років тому +2

    @ 12:26, aren't the lakesAlso in the mech's neighborhood?

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  7 років тому +1

      Joshua Elek No, because you're not allowed to move onto lakes, even if you have riverwalk.

  • @veerchasm1
    @veerchasm1 7 років тому

    Question: are automa cards that are replaced due to the expansion factions left out even if the expansion factions aren't used?

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  7 років тому +1

      veerchasm1 Yes, you can trash the old cards. The set with the new cards work for all factions.

    • @Mark-OutWest
      @Mark-OutWest 5 років тому +1

      @@Lines42 How do you know which cards to remove? I don't see numbers on them.

  • @prfesrfrink
    @prfesrfrink 5 років тому

    @12:16 There seems to be a contradiction. The unlocked Riverwalk ability allows the Automa to move across the river to any adjacent territory and use lakes as territories. But you say that it is only across rivers to certain territories, based on the faction.

    • @TriveYT
      @TriveYT 5 років тому

      he was talking about the human player neighbourhood, not the automa one.

  • @ZoidbergForPresident
    @ZoidbergForPresident 5 років тому

    Despite your very good tutorial, I don't think I'm going to play solo Scythe again.
    The whole system is just too cumbersome and like chore-like.
    I don't have many occasions to play boardgames, but I think I'd rather NOT play Scuth than play solo-Scythe. :P
    But I agree the video is really well done, so thanks for your time on that.

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  5 років тому

      ZoidbergForPresident Thank you. Solo gaming is definitely not everyone‘s cup of tee. But thanks for watching and posting anyways.

  • @makatski
    @makatski 2 роки тому

    disregard my question. i figured it out. they can move as far as they can as long its valid. and i've missed that you 'produced' a worker at home base. carry on.

  • @GordonHart5678
    @GordonHart5678 6 років тому

    At 33:41. I got confirmation from the Automa designer on bgg that in the attack vs worker/combat unit actions, if both a mech and the character are on the home base, the character sends the mech to combat.
    www.boardgamegeek.com/article/27126858#27126858

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  6 років тому

      Gordon Hart Yes, that was an on-the-fly decision Morten made in the forum a couple of days ago. Don‘t know why, because the ruling was different before, when I made the video.

  • @borowik2701
    @borowik2701 Рік тому

    In 28:25 he said: "The Encounter/Factory action is only performed by the character if the character is on the board" after that in 28:50 he describes The Encounter/Factory move action when the character is in out of the board (Faction mat). Can someone explain this contradiction to me?

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  Рік тому +1

      At this point I place the character on the red home base to the left, which is still „on the board“ and not on the faction map.

    • @borowik2701
      @borowik2701 Рік тому

      @@Lines42 Sorry I mistaken Faction mat and Faction base. Thank you, very helpful tutorial. Automa mechanics in rulebook is mysterious for me.

  • @thesaxguru
    @thesaxguru 7 років тому

    10:16 how would they get a mech outside the peninsula if they don't have Riverwalk yet?

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  7 років тому +1

      thesaxguru It's just a demonstration setup. Just assume they built a mine.

    • @thesaxguru
      @thesaxguru 7 років тому

      Lines42 Thanks!

  • @Noah-qh4ds
    @Noah-qh4ds 3 роки тому

    Why was there a worker on home base at about 17:00?

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  3 роки тому +1

      This shows the situation for this example: Automa has 2 workers on the board and a worker and her character in her home base. Workers are placed on her home base by the „Automa gains“ action.

    • @Noah-qh4ds
      @Noah-qh4ds 3 роки тому

      @@Lines42 Got it! Thank you! Great video!

  • @toppu10animes
    @toppu10animes 7 років тому +1

    4:10 ouch

  • @baredas
    @baredas 7 років тому +1

    At 19:48 when deciding where to place the automa worker it seems I've been playing this wrong all this time.
    I thought the water hex next to the blue mech would be non valid as it was adjacent, or as I beleived, in the neighbourhood of it.
    I didn't realize that the wording on the card "not in the neighbourhood of any enemy unit" meant the neighbourhood of the mech. I've always only considered the neighbourhood of the automa unit itself and since a worker in the water hex has the space with the mech in it's neighbourhood I thought that wouldn't be valid.
    And I thought I had all the automa rules covered....seems one learns something new all the time.
    edit:
    At 21:19 you actually remove the yellow marker from the hex adjacent to the mech because it was in the neighbourhood of an enemy combat unit. AT 19:48 you leave it and say that this hex is not in the neighbourhood of an enemy combat unit?!
    Am I missing something here or are you doing it wrong in one of these situations?

    • @Lines42
      @Lines42  7 років тому +3

      baredas It's a mistake at 21:19. Sorry.

    • @namelessone6446
      @namelessone6446 3 роки тому

      @@Lines42 In fact I think its correct, as the nordic faction has the ability to move mechs into lakes. So depending if the ability is already available the lakes are neighbourhood for nordic mechs.

    • @baredas
      @baredas Рік тому

      ​@@namelessone6446 The automa doesn't use faction or mech abilities!

  • @lavidadegina4389
    @lavidadegina4389 2 роки тому

    please subtitles spanish thanks

  • @quinncide
    @quinncide 4 роки тому

    Wife and I spent a full day trying to crack this game with almost no success, it was like hiking through waste deep molasses. I later spent a few hours myself trying to learn this stupid fucking automa nonsense. Basically the rules are so modified that automa play a completely different game. Just not my cup of tea when every move or turn requires completely different and arbitrary rule changes. I appreciate this tutorial, but if I can’t learn this by multiple rule book readings and literally hours of play-through videos I don’t think this is the game for me. Oh well, clearly everyone else is way smarter than us.

  • @derekfrew1773
    @derekfrew1773 3 роки тому

    too many examples. Wastes time