Not true, my brother and sister was never like that when they were im their teens, I was the only one who was very moody and irritable because I was going through a lot of stuff. Generalisation is dangerous
I literally counted on my fingers how many of those traits that Sawyer listed that I personally experienced as a teen - easily embarrased, tearful, hard on myself if I made a mistake, shy into adolescence - and I counted every one of them, and then some. The only thing I definitely didn't check off on, or come anywhere near was school-shooter. Or violent. Creepy as they are, trench coats don't make you murderous, either. Whether these can really be signs, or are just things people need to believe are signs in order to give reason to such evil - at the end of the day, I feel that it's all within that one person's being. Something that's either malfunctioned or hyper-active in their brain, I don't know. Anyone can be any of these things that these kids were, and then none of these things and still do what they did. I feel for Sue Klebold and, no doubt, the constant need of others for her to reiterate and to explain away what they need to believe. (Not that I blame ANYone for that need or reasoning, by ANY means. I obviously feel for everyone involved, tremendously). I just think that nothing is ever, ever so black and white. It's not things, it's a person - and select things may visibly weigh and/or push this kind of person to do what *only they* are capable of... If it was as black and white as we need it to be, these situations would be more fool-proof... ☹
It's really very simple. Parents need to be WAY more involved and hands on. Be a pain in your kid's ass if you have to. Yeah, I was a moody pissy, young teen, too. But my mom knew all of my friends and she was friends with their moms, too. So she would hear the gossip like if any of my friends and I were fighting and just know what was going on whether I liked it or not. Make sure their friends are decent people. My friends' parents were just as involved and would call and tattle on me if they caught me doing something I wasn't supposed to. In fact, I found out yeaars later that her and my dad would do sneak drive-bys when I was in high school and out at a friends house or party just to make sure things were on the up and up. I had no clue at the time! During one of those parties, one of my girlfriends moms' caught wind and basically dragged 5 of them out and home with her- everyone who hadn't told their parents where they were and wasn't supposed to be there. I got to stay, because I had actually told my parents what I was doing and got permission to go. Sure you need to give them space and privacy...to a point. They are still kids without fully developed brains that need guidance -even though they think they know everything. So get involved. Know what they are doing, who they are talking to, what they are talking about, etc. My parents were even checking my web history in the early days of the internet before I even knew web history was a thing, lol! Good parents do these things.
Nope! Then you’d be asleep at the wheel, if you have no idea what your teen is doing! It’s your job to control the environment to not do so is negligent!
She also lost a kid ...like all the other parents. There's no difference. Actually, there is.... she is burdened with losing her child and the guilt of being the mother whose son killed other parents' kids.
And the way she deals with the guilt is doing these interviews defending herself while hurting her son's victims over and over. Let's not mention the money she has made from these. I never blamed her as a parent of a mass murderer, but I do blame her for not victimizing the survivors by doing these. The Harris parents have at least made sure they didn't hurt others by doing public.
@@roxannemoser I think they went as public as they did to try and help other parents who's child may end up being the next shooter, to help them notice the signs to prevent anymore pain
Trenchcoats had no stigma at this point it was there action and the medias accidental misrepresentation of the kids who wore trenchcoats thay created the stigma.
As a teenager I was bullied and never told my parents about it. I hid all the pain. All those parents blaming the parents should have known are seriously delusional. No one knows what is in other persons mind and how dark other persons thoughts are if they choose not to tell.
Fact's,💯 I was Bullied as a Youngster,(Mother too when she was younger due to having Dyslexia her Teachers Mocked her,(Art Teacher took cup of Water once thinking be funny & threw it at her face as a Joke at My Mother own Self-Respect expense class mockingly laughed at her) & When I was Bullied & Belittled I Chose to keep the Pain Inside/Stayed Silent,(Which should never do it's not good to let it build & Build/Recipe for Disaster), Should stand up for yourself/Have a Voice let it Roar & be Heard !, You can never know what goes on in the gear's of someone mind you can just observe how the Person Conduct's themself's & Be their for them & Help them Best ya Can.
Yes, if I remember correctly, a trenchcoat was just a trenchcoat before Columbine. It was only afterwards that there was this idea (that wasn’t even really a “thing”) called the trenchcoat mafia. Why the hell would any mother be alarmed over their teen buying a trenchcoat?!
Mackenzie Richards because now after the shooting people associate school shooters with trench coats even tho they where used in ww1 to keep people dry in trenches
There were MAJOR signs this boy was deeply troubled and his artsy fartsy parents were too wrapped up in careers and social life to notice. They are by no means at fault for what Dylan did, but they had some big failings as parents for not recognizing very problematic behavior before it was too late. This kid was playing with guns(video footage from Rampart Range), committing burglaries, in juvenile detention program more than once, acting out violent fantasies and recording them on video tape, showing clear signs of social anxiety, rage, depression, low self esteem, loneliness, despondency and much more. If we can see it clear as day from a handful of video tapes, his diary, court records and other anecdotes, how could his own parents have missed it living day in and day out with him?? There is no denying they failed as parents in some aspects. I think it's inappropriate for her to go on a tour mainly to clear her family of wrong doing and make this tragedy about her sons condition and not the countless people he harmed. All at the expense of more painful publicity to victims families. She can support the causes of stopping self-harm in private. She should close her yap, stay out of the spotlight and handle any apologies to victim families in private. This is not about her or her son anymore. It can't be fixed no matter how wonderful she said his childhood was.
Exactly! As Isaiah Shoel’s father said “if there were bombs being made in this garage, I would’ve known about it” I know that was at Eric Harris house, but Dylan was right there with him. Sue was explicitly warned about Eric’s website and the fact that he had made bombs and threatened to kill people, and sue did absolutely nothing. Choosing denial instead.
@@TheFire1290 My post is literally a summary of hundreds of diagnoses and profiles written on the boy by some of the top medical doctors and FBI profilers in the country over the last 25 yrs, as well as what HE WROTE IN HIS OWN DIARY. It’s factual information that has been published in countless books, medical journals, investigative journalism pieces and even criminology textbooks. I also happen to be a licensed medical professional with 20 yrs experience. But we’re all just making “armchair presumptions” (including Dylan himself) according to you, Sir Internet Nobody😂
I don’t completely blame her or think she’s different from any other parent but like many parents she’s guilty of not noticing the changes in her son and brushing them off this is her mistake and she knows it
Sarah Dixon she saw he was struggling with something, yes she didn’t know what but she chose to ignore it, and just called it a teenage phase. That bad decision had something to do with what happened. Maybe I’m over analyzing but that’s just what it seems to me.
@Sabrina Dugan The way you are speaking say's alot about you. I feel like you are a very judgemental person to conduct yourself this way. We have no way of knowing how she parented her son with her husband. I hope your children always live to the standard's you seem to have. It would destroy your world as you have very lite empathy and patience it seems.
Michael no she is not every mother she is also a victim her life has been ruined by her son and like it or not she lost the son she loved once when he died and again when she know has to mourn the son she thought he was as opposed to the monster who did this horrific act
As a mother my heart aches for Sue. She is brave and loving. I remember as a teen, I hid so much from my parents. Sue reminds me so much of my mother. Extremely loving and involved but even then, I think we can hide things from even the most involved. The people saying “she should’ve seen the red flags”.. this one one of the first mass school shooting of a lot of our generation. We didn’t have the social media connection that we do now. A lot of things could be hidden. I will always have empathy for this woman. She’s hurt to a point that we couldn’t imagine!
Sue is a wonderful sweet mother that needs her peace its not her fault that Dylan did what he did sometimes parents have no control of what they children do
Tell that to a parent of someone who lost a child that day. The ONLY people on Earth that could have stopped this tragedy did nothing. And now THEY are the victims? Burn in hell.
And you've fallen right for her BS. She's never shown any remorse whatsoever and basically said it could happen to anyone. When she ignored MULTIPLE warnings from friends and family about her son's behaviour. Blood is on her hands
I usually like Diane but this interview is one of her worst. She’s judgmental and the questions are just rude af. Like kids are very good at hiding their depression and anxiety that you would never think anything was wrong.
Lost - i used to like her. Until my perception shifted. In addition to this interview....you should watch Diane with Britney Spears from circa 2001-2003. Cant remember exact year. But Diane is brutal there, too - perhaps she’s asking all the “tough” questions that other people are asking or wanting to know. But she goes right for the jugular.
Diane Sawyer also had a look on her face which would suggest that she either has an awful smell under her nose or she drank an entire bottle of lemon juice. Some might say that Diane was disgusted with Sue Klebold writing a book and even doing public speaking engagements. However; some of my friends and co-workers have said that Diane Sawyer has always been a total bitch towards the people she has interviewed. That being said; I feel truly sorry for Sue Klebold and I wish her the best. You just never know what a person is going through until you have walked a mile in their shoes.
I think it’s because Erics parents knew about him and there were signs with him, his father even called and said he thinks his son was one of the shooters. I think people have more compassion for Dylan because he seemed like he fell in with the wrong person. I have sympathy for his mother but Dylan choose his side the day he left for school on April 20, 1999
Well said! They were both sadistic murderers who destroyed lives. How interesting that Sue Klebold is now enjoying her 15 minutes of fame via her son's depravity. How does this woman live with herself? Well, I guess she was ok with raising a sociopath, so shame on me for asking the question...
The interviewer is disgusting. It’s clear by what she asks and the facial expressions she makes that she blames Sue for “not understanding what was going on”, but how could she know something was wrong if everything looked so normal? No one should judge. This woman has been through a lot and it’s sad to see that people still blame her for what happened.
Horrible fucking parent. Does she notice him having an arsenal ? Getting arrested? His dozens of home videos idolizing killing people ? Wearing a trench coat not to just look different but out of hatred ? Writing about taking his own life and committing more than one felony? And yet she hides, not speaking out about her mistakes for years, until writing a book and monetizing it. Constantly trying to justify it and make money from it. Fuck this lady.
That's not enough. Listen to Jordan Peterson explain why smothering mothers are disastrous. I'm not saying this mom was, but kids need more than smothering mothers.
She was a loving mom.....and there lies the problem. some people need guidance and even punishment in their raising. If you only love your child, that is not enough.
"Could you have prevented what happened at Columbine?" This question is so cruel. The look in Sue's eyes broke my heart. You can clearly tell for a while she blamed herself and then to be essentially asked if she could have prevented the murder of those kids...so tragic how people will always blame her as long as the word 'Columbine" is remembered.
it is what people do when their children have died in the hands of such kids. It is a normal reaction. Eventually, they get to accept the reality as it cannot be changed. They stop blaming parents and adopt a more fatalistic attitude. It is what it and it's done.
Jordan Tanner yeah they forget Dylan and Eric were grown they purchased the guns on their own and everything these were not children they were about graduate it's not like they were 12 She had no responsibility to know this was gonna happen
You can snoop through all their things, you can sit them down and talk to them for hours on end, you can put them through treatment centers for counseling and anger management courses, you can punish them when they do wrong, praise them when they do right, encourage them when they are confused, be affectionate when needed, and give them their space when they want to be left alone. You can be the best mom in the world and still not know that your child may want not only to commit suicide, but actually is a deranged killer and wants to kill 500 people before committing suicide. These actions by these two boys were not the acts of their parents. Especially in Dylan‘s case. The Harris’s though on the other hand? That is one huge question mark we will NEVER EVER get answered
She sounded like a overwhelmed mother of two boys, one on drugs and the other who seems to have had problems from his home life and school life which combined with teenaged hormones and angst and bad company pushed him over the edge... Very sad!!! I hope speaking helps her.
Maybe not a terrible person, but a terrible parent. If your kid does a mass shooting, you have failed as a parent. You have failed to teach him basic morals and decency. Sure i feel bad for her loss, but she is partly responsible for this. Parents take credit for their children's accomplishments and need to also take responsibility for their children's atrocities.
She was probably one of these soft "do whatever you want everyone gets a trophy" parents. Should have confronted him long ago, then if he wouldn't change, send him to an institution for the criminally insane. Then put him to sleep
Tanz Thomp yes it is irrelevant. If I asked my mom to buy me one she is not going to ask what it is for she would just think I'm making a fashion statement. Not that I'm going to shoot up a school.
Yes, that was ridiculous. Like Sue Klebold should have slapped herself and exclaimed " A trench coat like some of the kids at school are wearing?" "Do I look crazy, obviously you are going to shoot up the school in 4 months!"
If I was visiting the Columbine Memorial and spotted a mysterious gray haired figure; I would assume that it is Sue Klebold and leave her alone because she's suffering enough as it is.
@@WickedlyMe328 Well, Sue Klebold explained that she has spent quite a bit of time at the memorial; but she doesn't go all that often because she feels unwelcome at the memorial. I do feel sorry for her because she was put through the wringer after the tragedy.
I was one of the last people to be with my friend before he took his own life... and we were together pretty much all day. I knew he had depression, but he was in therapy and suicide watch. His parents checked on him throughout the night, and we thought he was doing better. We did everything we could to help him, but he still died. I feel so bad that I was one of the last people he was with and had no idea what he was going to do. If your friend who you know has depression suddenly seems happy and okay, that is the moment they need to be checked up on the most. They may be happy that it is finally all going to end, so seriously, don't make the same mistake I did
When she says, "He was so sweet," it breaks my heart. I cannot imagine trying to wrap your head around the fact that your child turned into a hateful murderer, especially one who (apparently) had such a loving, gentle temperament as Dylan. I commend her for actually stepping up and saying something.
And I can't wrap my head around the fact, that most people including media are actually defending the bullies and the people that just stood there and cheered and blame the actual victims and thier parents among other things. He had a reason for his hate and unlike most other people who get bullied so badly he snapped and acted on it, that's the danger of throwing people over the edge for your own amusement. The rest of his life was already destroyed by those so called victims. My partner works with people who had to go through this and they will never be able to live a normal life, have friends and family and be happy, many of them commit suicide at the age of 25-40 and there is NOTHING psychological help can do about it. Bullies are the true murderers and those just happened to kill more than just thier victims through their actions. Yet they never get punished, no instead they get confirmation that it's their victims that are wrong.
Thank you!!! Nobody else seems to notice that, the enablers were his peers in school. Not his parents. The system made him into a monster. Sad thing is that today bullies continue causing deaths by enabling suicide.
If bullying means dominating other people and enjoying feeding off their fear and powerlessness with no empathy for others at all, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were the ultimate bullies. There is no indication that they were given a harder time at school than any other kids. They came from nice homes with nice families and had people in their lives that cared about them. They did seem to be entitled and incredibly narcissistic though. Maybe they were spoiled brats more than anything else. Maybe that's what made them into 'monsters' rather than the 'system'.
“He builds his own computer” “He hacks into the school computer system” This was 1999!! Computers were such a new thing. This guy had so much potential. This event is endlessly sad, truly tragic, in so many ways.
Yeah computers started to pop up in the 70s when my dad was in HS. Since it was the new thing he got interested and is now in IT (information technology)
I don't understand how anyone can absolve her of any blame. She was warned multiple times about how violent and dangerous he was. She literally even found a BOMB that her son made and did nothing. She even tells a story where Dylan flat out told her that he could not control his anger. She failed as a parent. Dylan wasn't even the only dysfunctional kid she had. Her other son was kicked out at 19 because he got a DUI.
How would she need to be blamed at all? Seems like an average parent to me. Misses some signs, addresses others maybe not as aggressively as she should have, the "bombs" , maybe she simply did not know how to respond or just assumed it was some experiment of his, not out of the ordinary for teenagers into technoloogy and such to construct unorthodox stuff or whatever. I take it you arent a parent, or maybe you are, but overall as far as i can see through the computer screen she doesnt deserve a single bit of blame for the murders, shes just a mother that lossed her child to suicide and probably hurts more than anybody else involved in all of this in the end
@@austingibbs1448 I certainly am a parent. She ignored MANY signs, not just a few little things. She was TOLD what he was capable of and just didn't even try to do anything about it. One of her sons is a hardcore drug addict and she literally kicked him out without helping him at all. You know what happened with her other son. She's literally 0/0 and you fell for her BS.
@@Aarrrow What should she have done? force them into counseling or something? We can point out flaws in any criminals parent's parenting all day but it's not her fault her kid was a drug addict and the other a killer. Some could argue that not kicking her son out for doing drugs would be enabling him, maybe you could take into consideration the weight she had on her shoulders already from that situation, there's alot of angles to parenting and decisions, i just don't understand why people insist so much that she's at fault somehow. Even if she is, i think she's had more than enough karma on her at this point.
@@austingibbs1448 What could she have done?? Literally ANYTHING. She didn't try a single thing. She didn't try to get him any kind of psychological help whatsoever. You must be a troll. There is no way that you honestly believe anything you just said. 😂
@@Aarrrow Maybe she just didn't comprehend how serious it actually was. What would you do if you were her out of curiosity? Force your child to go to a counceler? What if that action was what just made her or him snap and make these terrible decisions? do you think you would deserve to be blamed for it? I don't know why i'm still responding, I'm just curious about your thought process on this but it seems like you just have a need to express your need to point out flaws and then call people "trolls" or whatever for questioning it. But whatever, its the internet and you're entitled to your wrong opinions
I agree. Seems like Dylan could have potentially been a good person, but Eric was a psychopath from the start. Eric even wrote that he wanted to be a cannibal in his diary and that he hated humanity. He was a very bad influence.
From playing with Transformers toys as a five-year-old (as per the photograph Sue Klebold provided to Oprah Winfrey's O magazine) to the Doom video game and Pulp Fiction as teenagers.....OMG.....JUST PLAIN SCARY 😰
The poor woman. She lost more than anybody involved, and she’s made to feel like she’s not allowed to be upset because of the role her son had in everything
@@Hi-qe9gt I think it's silly to say her loss is more than the other parents who had to bury their innocent children. I doubt those parents would agree.
I think it’s inappropriate to say someone lost more or less in this massacre. Ofc some people didn’t lost loved ones and ofc these people didn’t lose as much but you can’t say Dylan’s mother lost the most. No hate though. I sympathise with the mother. She seems really loving and nice.
This lady creeps me out. A press tour and book, really? She had SO MANY chances to intervene with Dylan and at least keep him the hell away from Eric (whom he he had committed multiple felonies with and gotten caught). What is her message here? Bad taste all around. The more I learn about the actual facts of the Columbine shooting the less I want to hear from this lady making it all about herself.
White American suberban culture at it's finest... or worst. Future generations will study the immense bloodshed that was shed in the name of whute suburban entitlement.
im sorry but did you not watch the video? she did not know anything was going on with dylan. and she clearly was worried about her own son than whoever he was hanging out with. she still gets blamed and hated on til this day. give the poor woman a break.
She's an activist for teens and parents now and is trying to do her bit to help, is it going to erase what her son did? Of course not but what she's doing is better than hiding away
People need to stop judging Sue. It's fucking stupid, imagine if you were in her shoes. I pray for this woman. In my eyes she's a great parent. But kids are good at hiding things. No matter how hard you try to talk to them about things, they keep it to themselves.
ShadyxFiascoX 32 fuckin really? ""He might be a school shooter, but he shoot ((innocent)) jew kids, the race I hate, so he's a hero"" is what you're saying? You're a goddamn disgrace, consider that comment deleted pls.
I was so shocked to see Diane Sawyer, who usually is so warm and kind and gentle, ask such insensitive questions. I am so glad to read the responses to this video. They are kind and compassionate toward a woman who, obviously, has suffered and is still suffering. My heart breaks for this Mother.
@@feefee6713 Yeah she comes across so patronising & fake anytime she tries to PRETEND to be empathetic & kind. It's quite nauseating to watch actually.
Vicki Goodman Diane Sawyer worked for the Nixon administration and was one of the few who continued to work with him after he resigned. I don’t have a lot of respect for her and I’m not surprised that she asked pointed unsympathetic questions.
I think they're missing the point, High School can make people cynical. That's the age where you really start to notice how people treat each other and judge one another. Like how he mentions "Jocks" if you're attractive, good at sports people put you on a pedestal and more accepting of you. But if you're different others can make you feel ostracized and unwanted or have little value. Being a teen and not knowing who you are or what your strengths are, can cause deep seeded resentment. Which may manifest through violent fantasy or I'am gonna show them not to fuck with me mentality.
I was a little hooligan growing up. I destroyed mail boxes, stole shit from stores, egged cars, took my dads car out for a joy ride at age 14, and got in fights, but I was still a nice kid overall. lol Humans are by default naive, they don't say to themselves "I might get murdered today" or "is my kid a mass murder'? People just don't function that way it has nothing to do with providing a good life for their kids. You also have to remember that columbine was the first of it's kind people just couldn't imagine something like this happening.
+Ed Aispuro a felony for stealing. What you are going to call everybody who has stolen something a monster? Yes he did horrible things afterwards but this was before. Like she said at the moment she thought it was the worst thing she could go through. She was his mother he could have been sweet to her, unfortunately society made him a monster.
***** You sir need more compassion. No one is denying that he murdered people, but sometimes you have to look at both sides to understand and for the story to not be repeated. She is not denying that her son did any of that, but regardless of what he did he will never stop being her son. She has a right to remember him for what he was to her whether that being a sweet person or a murder. You are the one who has to take your head out of your ass. Take a step back and look at society, school can truly break you I was bullied throughout elementary and middle school, high school finally gave me a break, and while I didn't feel like I wanted to kill anyone everybody copes with things differently. One thing I agree with you is for parent to pay more attention to their kids as some might need professional help, so that unfortunate events like this don't continue to happen.
What the hell does 'bravery' have to do with a serial killing??? In the land of freedom you are used to mass shootings daily. So i will totally listen to what you have to say.
“Could you have prevented what happened at Columbine?” I'm sorry, but that was extremely inappropriate. Notice how specific the question is worded, implying that Sue is the reason this happened. Shame on that "interviewer".
It’s a great learning question for the audience and for parents. It sounds offensive because feelings are used instead of using their heads. It helps Sue to look at signs and actions that were missed that could help parents today to help their children .
@dani cali some people are just evil. if ppl wanna kill, theyre gonna kill. its nothing to do with a person’s family life, its just theyre a sick human being
She might have well asked “Could you have prevented or predicted his mental health illness (issues) or anyone else’s?” How ridiculous! I’m surprised Diane Sawyer didn’t blame her for not realizing her son was cutting himself; many teenagers cut/self-harm in non-conspicuous areas. Parents are the last ones to ever know.
My heart fucking broke when she said "he was so sweet" ...she didnt even know and that tears me up. It's so easy to hide it.. but one day it becomes too much and you just cant hide it anymore..
So many people seem to overlook the pain that both the Klebold and Harris families must have felt after the events of Columbine. They lost their children as well, and on top of that, have to deal with the fact that they committed these horrible murders. Very brave of Sue Klebold to come forward after all this time. Also, I don't think that Dylan was any more awkward looking than 90% of teenage boys look or feel at that age. Shame he took the path he did instead of getting help.
I think Sue is remarkably brave. Even an interview like this. Come on, she was supposed to know something was wrong because her son wanted a black duster coat like some of the kids at school were already wearing? The trench coat mafia was a media exaggeration, it was actually the class before Eric and Dylan that dressed like that and used the name in the yearbook just to be silly.
I agree, tigertbalm. I too did a double take when the reporter asked her if she didn't find it weird that he wanted a trench coat. It's a friggin' piece of clothing. I own a black trench coat. I know lots of people who have one. None of us would even ever *think* of doing something like what they did. When I was 18, I dressed all in black cos my favourite band was the Cure and I wanted to emulate Robert Smith. It's normal teenage behaviour. Insinuating that Sue is to blame for not reading something into her boy's desire for a piece of clothing is pretty damn short-sighted and just plain mean. BTW, I'm currently listening to Sue's audiobook (she narrates it herself) and it's totally heartwrenching. Worth the listen (or the read, whichever) but it's tough at times, and I really feel for her and her family.
His classmates who bullied him were if not more so. Do you know that some people would throw ketchup soaked tampons at him and the other killer? They had to go through the rest of the day covered like that. I was bullied just as badly. But I didn't have friends that were also sick.
I feel like Eric was a sociopath but I think Dylan was depressed and got consumed by it. Somehow it makes me sad. I genuinely think he would've had a normal life if he just got through highschool and moved onto better things.
there is actually an article on this from around 2004 that explores both eric and dylan and they did say eric was a full blown psychopath while dylan was depressive and suicidal. one quote was "dylan was hurting inside while eric wanted to hurt other people." and its based off of the fbi and various psychologists and psychiatrists analyzing the two of them and the event as a whole, so it isnt BS. they even said dylan would have never carried out the massacre without eric, whereas eric would have done something heinous regardless if dylan was there or not. so it basically comes down to if dylan had never met eric, he would have lived a fairly normal life and would prob still be alive. all the analysts say eric no matter what was going to do something like this, that no amount of help would have deterred him. they said if anything, eric dying that day saved the world from him doing much worse damage because he had originally wanted to go as big as the Oklahoma bombings. he wanted people to die by the hundreds.
Lisa Perkett yeah that’s true. But depression isn’t just sad feelings. It’s also hating yourself and others and tendencies to lash out against those around you.
Sue Klebold comes across as a loving, compassionate mother. Any parent without a psychology background would have missed the signs. I pray she finds peace because it was not her fault.
@@DonOneDetroit the stuff he made. It was in the garage. How many of us go search our garage? The houses they lived in were near the school. I’ll bet they hid their stuff in the attack door area in the garage. She couldn’t have stopped it. Hardly any mom thinks her kid would shoot the kids at school. She didn’t know he access to guns that would do it. One if the kids parent worked in the same building as someone I knew. I don’t know which one. She told me they found out because they got the lady out of work and you couldn’t hear her scream NO NO NO, snd cry. She practically collapsed. Some one took her home. The police were at her house. She left the job. They never knew whst happened after that. Both kids had a mom snd dads in the house. It wasn’t horrible kids on the outside. But what on earth goes on the inside of the kids that do this? It’s so frightening and scary. You can’t let your mind go there.
Hate that the woman interviewing Sue has a sort of constant constipated look to her face. I think it's taken more strength than the interviewer could ever imagine to do what Sue Klebold has done. To write a book, to confront every issue on every angle. I take my hat off to her for all that she's been thru and how hard it must have been to revisit all those emotions and memories time and time again. I'm sure her book, her experiences and her charities are helping thousands.
InterCity82 Yes mrs k. is very courageous to look HONESTLY at what has been instead of the perception of life that we all carry in our own life experince. My son, lil' Johnny, died may 19, 2017 at the age of 22. So ive been learning a lot lately of seeing life through another's perceptions . And for a parent seeking the full understanding of whats happened; it demands courage and honesty. And it requires one to come to the place where we can understand that what has happened, has happened. However many different ways that one sees it still doesnt change what has happened. And healing will be in how one looks at things now. With forgiveness. Wherever that lies, there must be forgiveness. For ourselves and others.
LOL all that she's been through. She was so disconnected from her son that she didn't know he was building bombs and stockpiling ammunition in her garage. That's called guilt.
Hearing how Dylan was at home honestly breaks my heart, he just seemed like he had been going through a lot his high school years.. I just wish he didn't decide to take it out on innocent people, he had a bright future ahead of himself, if only someone had noticed his depression and was able to help him.. R.I.P all victims of the Columbine shooting, a truly tragic day in history.
“Hearing how Dylan was at home honestly breaks my heart” You do realize he had pipe bombs in his closet, does that break your heart, or the fact he had his own website with hundreds of threats and a hit list, is your heart still broken. Sue was a terrible mom and raised a monster of a son.
I dont think he is a victim bro, he had opportunities and still chose to kill innocent children, what breaks my heart is the innocent people that were murdered because of this psycho
@@JohnfromWaterFrontVilligeexactly when i read that comment i nearly puked, how can you feel sorry for someone that murdered and slaughtered innocent people, its comments and parents like this that are the reason kids do what they do
In my opinion Sue is incredibly brave. She could have ignored, denied or placed blame on others for what her son did. Her honesty is appreciated and respected!
Honey D didn’t they also move of Colorado idk about sue but i think she still lives in Colorado but idk about eric parents i think they moved because i heard it somewhere
this! especially because the other family we literally never heard from again. She comes out and does all of these interviews knowing the hate she will get.
@@ss-yn1ky you took the words out of my mouth. People are responsible for their own actions. When it comes to violence, there are victims on both sides. Imagine losing your child and knowing he took other people’s children away. I think what she’s made of the tragedy is commendable. If I could give her a hug, I would.
Dear Mrs. Klebold, I am so sorry for your loss and your pain. It must take tremendous courage to tell your story. Thank you for sharing with us, and educating us about brain health and what it's like to be a survivor of such tragedy. May God bless and strengthen you as you continue on your journey.
@Gunos Bruh CHILL!! I mean, no one had expected that Dylan would have been part of this. Eric looked like a frickin' psychopath while Dylan actually looked innocent and was actually nice to people most of the times before the shooting. Ex. He helped Rachel with her play. When the music tape jammed, he quickly rushed and fixed it. At that point, anyone could've looked at Dylan as a friend.
Please do not cry, I'm sure you would have avoided what happened if you could have, but who's to imagine when you knew you raised him with Pride and Values and in Faith. God Bless You.
I think middle school is usually what messes kids up. Elementary school, maybe. But middle school is the worst, because that is usually when kids start going through puberty. Also, it's when kids start changing.. you may not have the same friends. You may go from have a big group of friends to a small group, or none.
You cannot blame parents for every action of their children. Their children are individuals. This poor mother probably beats herself up everyday over what her son did. This whole case is sad all around. I hate even being reminded about it
@@nonashay He didn't blame her but wanted to completely shut off from the world since everyone hated them. But she couldn't cope like that and wanted to face everything head on. They just couldn't cope the same way and ended up divorcing
I'm autistic and bipolar along with some anxiety disorders including ocd. when i was unmedicated and going through the worst parts of my illness, i understood exactly what it's like to have the mindset of dylan klebold. i understand it perfectly. with therapy and lots of meds i never get those thoughts anymore. haven't for several years. i'm curious if dylan was dealing with being on the spectrum and also being bipolar.
I'm schizoaffective myself and I understand it also. Also on meds now. -_-' Before medications, I was having problems with my relationships because I kept feeling betrayed by the people who I should be able to trust the most, and at times had desires to kill them or urges to hurt them. Those urges were so strong that felt like a tidal wave of anger just waiting to overwhelm my sense of control if I didn't do something different to change everything. Their reactions to me did not help either because they couldn't understand where I was coming from. I went to the mental hospital and asked to be put on meds since I had been off of them for a long time since getting diagnosed. It was hard to get past my feelings, but I can't believe how much better I handled everything after getting on the right meds. It could be literally life and death. I think other people being understanding and compassionate about it is important also, though.
Yes, Dylan possibly could have been helped. Eric again, sorry to say but there are some people who just can't be helped & unfortunately, Eric Harris was one of them. It's hard to say because he was someone's child but there it is.
A lot of kids who shoot up schools could have been helped. I think 99% of them would never have done what they did if someone actually took the time to help. Many of them were depressed, bullied, and dealing with things that they couldn't understand or didn't know how others would react to their feelings. I remember watching a video on UA-cam from Ted Talk about a guy who was in a very similar situation that those shooters were in. He never did kill anyone, but he talked about how he was planning on doing it but because someone actually cared about him, it changed his life.
I have an AMAZING MOTHER. However when I became suicidal she didn't really know until it got bad. I learned how to hide it all. Trust me, when you are mentally unstable, you could find a way around your parents. She mostly just chalked it up as teenage mood swings rather than mental illness. Eventually, she saw through it, but it took her a while.
It’s heartbreaking that people blame her. She seems very sweet and if she knew anything like this would happen she would have gotten her son help. She suffers as well she not only lost her child but her child is a murderer! Whoever threatens her should be totally ashamed of themselves. Poor thing
Dunno, many parents manage to not have their kids grow into hateful, people-slaughtering monsters. Ofc she will depict everything she was complicit in within the best possible light for herself, easy to say "oh yeah I was totally loving and cared about my son and was the best mum eva" after your kid shoots up a school.
they don't actually want to die, they're just over exaggerating poor mental health and making jokes about it. this is why nobody today pays attention to people who are legitimately struggling, because every adolescent and teen claims they're "depressed" and "anxious" and tells everyone "I want death" constantly. I have a sister who's 16 and she has serious anxiety and depression and has never once said any of that. kids today need to remember that not everything is as bad as they think it is.
Aislinn G I somewhat agree. Im very depressed but I never talk about it or mention how badly I want to die. I hate getting attention. But also just because people say they want to die doesn't mean they're always bullshitting. That's just some people's way of asking for help. There has been so many cases where a person has committed suicide and has told numerous of people of how badly they wanted to die or made dark jokes about dying. Everyone handles depression differently.
Imagine how she has to live now. Going to the doctor and having the nurse call "sue klebold!" And EVERYONE in the room knows exactly what that name means..
Actually, I never heard of her until I came across this video. Most people in the U.S. are obsessed with stories like this, esp. if they happen to "us". As the saying goes, "If it bleeds; it leads." Sensationalist shootings & bombings get much more media attention that explaining complex situations about environmental threats or economic policy, and we care more about 15 Americans that died than we do about the millions who have died in the DRC (Congo). But I say, "we", b/c I really DON'T pay attention to stories about shootings or serial killers. In fact, I didn't even know the boy's names who did the SHOOTING at Columbine or any details on what happened until just yesterday when I watch a documentary here on YT about it. I actually think it's better to forget their names lest other potentially dangerous people idolize & imitate them.
Ikr, I was 12 when it happened but I remember everything so clearly. The names, the stories, everything, it was so crazy no one had ever heard of a school shooting before.
Yeah, and Klebold is a pretty unusual name too, so that definitely doesn't help. People would pretty much automatically associate that name with the shooting.
Of course he looks likeable while smiling to the camera. But you don't see him walking around in a trenchcoat, listening to heavy metal, while making b ombs in the garage.
@@station2krill you're right, it doesn't determine if someone will be evil. But art in all it's forms takes on meaning, imitating life. Style speaks, music speaks. It sends a message.
Janice P i understand that but i listen to black metal. it’s one of my favorite genres. it’s easily more satanic and violent in regards to its visuals and lyrics and such. but hate the thought of hurting others- in any way. my brother listens to that kind of music, too, and he’s very very sweet and does not wish to be violent. my first concert, a metal one, i was in the pit and close to the barricade and those around me protected me because they saw i was young and new to the experience. it’s easy to blame it on music or a music scene that is so different from the mainstream or seems violent, like people blame with video games.
I too had that same revelation about being a good wife and mother after my husband left our marriage of 17 years….it was all in my head. It made me realize how little control we have as individuals over other people’s behavior. This is reality. This is a revelation…still trying to hold onto hope and joy, even though i no longer trust other people like i used to, as a matter of fact, im the only person who has not let me down.
Sabrina Dugan If you read her book you'll realize that she has always carried a lot of sadness for the families affected by her son and that she has anger for the legacy that Dylan left behind that she has to deal with because he isn't here to do it. This woman blames her son for the tragedy and hardly addresses bullying but what was within Dylan that caused this. She's shared so many emotions and doesn't try to downplay his actions but she still loves her son and her heart aches for everybody involved. She took all these years to finally have the courage to step out and speak risking her being called a bad mother. Please don't assume you know everything there is to know from watching short clips of her
@Sabrina Dugan Thanks, Sabrina. I was about to say the same, but since you beat me to the punch. People like Kim are ethically compromised even to say something like this.
James Gray She actually does take responsibility and carries the blame that Dylan isn't able to take. She has a lot of mixed emotions about the whole ordeal but she does have empathy for the families. It has been said that Dylan was bullied quite a bit but she really doesn't discuss that in her book. I guess no matter what she does or says will be good enough for you. A lot of parents make excuses for their kids when they hurt others but she really didn't. Nice job bringing Trump into the discussion btw.
I don't think what her son did makes her a terrible mom, i just think that she should of looked more into his odd behavior, but at the same time I don't think any parent thinks their child will go to school one day, to shoot their classmates and teachers. I cannot imagine the guilt she must lives with everyday and I'm happy to hear that she is donating all of the profits from her book to different meant health organizations.
So many parents have kids who act weird at times, they try and get them to talk about it but mostly they think it's normal teenage behaviour so are happy to let it past. They never think their child would act out in that manor, it's ridiculous to call them incompetent
Yes.. and no parent is perfect. No human is perfect. There are always going to be tiny little mistakes that parents make.. it's just that sometimes those tiny mistakes may lead to big tragedies. But it's not like we can see the future. It's not like we can see what exactly is going through someone else's mind.
The harsh reality is that parents do play a role in these situations. This doesn't mean I don't have compassion for Sue, it doesn't mean I can't understand where she's coming from, and it definitely doesn't mean Dylan is not at fault because he absolutely is. (It's never okay to end another person's life just because you've suffered or are suffering.) However, for people to put all or most of the blame on Dylan, would be detrimental to kids and families everywhere. If parents don't understand their impact and role in their children's mental health, then this will continue to happen. It's more than just mental illness; there are environmental, social, and behavioral factors as well.
Agreed. I find it strange that no one in the comments has picked up on the fact that she admitted to physically assaulting her child in the interview. On Mother's Day, no less. Wonder how many other instances of this "parenting style" were shrugged off as normal. As a child abuse survivor and mother of three teens myself, stuff like that has serious impact on growing adolescents. Especially males who were not given the tools/permission to deal with heavy emotions in a healthy manner.
Yet it is exactly the kind of harmful manipulation some children have to endure. Its mothers day, you forgot about it, its your fault, I'm the victim and you're a bad kid.
It WAS an adolescent phase. He just never had the chance, due to his actions, to grow out of it. What shocked me the most was all the hate and anger that Dylan showed the day of the shootings. He made sure to torment every victim before killing them. He is the louder of the two that day. Most ppl see him as thefollower, and he was the follower, but he was very upfront the day of the event. He was like a bomb exploded. More audio from the event has come out and it's just crazy to hear him and eric in the library screaming. shooting and tormenting their victims . Almost all of these shooters would have grown out of these feelings and phases in college and after college. Dont make decisions in the moment that will have life long consequences. Stay in the moment. but always be aware of the consequences of your actions down the line.
@@joeythekangaroo8211 There's mental illness...and there's evil. I was shocked when I watched a documentary the other day about the shooting & the things these young men said, & how they terrorized their victims & killed innocent people. That's evil.
I must have missed the "Feel sorry for me or I'll terrorize & murder other people" phase of MY adolescence! In fact, IDK anyone who ever went through that "phase". Apparently YOU did. I'm glad you "grew out" of your murderous phase!
I've heard a story where a 26-year-old SON OF A CHILD PSYCHOLOGIST RAPED A WOMAN... and you blame HER for not noticing anything weird? it's not as easy as it seems. also stop blaming someone for crimes they didn't commit and things they couldn't predict. horrible, accusatory interview.
That is because people are not looking for the monster in their loved ones. It takes people by surprise because they aren't seeking the obvious signs. If you have a dysfunctional kid and you believe he is just being a butthurt teenage when in fact he is suicidal and is plotting to shoot a bunch of people with him. This is the same thing that happens when people fall in love with abusers. They are in denial and are not looking for the darker aspects.
She wasnt a terrible parent....and even if she has beaten him...lots of kids who get beaten and raped by their parents dont become killers the kid was disturbed...probably since birth....there is nothing she could have done
The Hooded Claw Yeah. I know being suicidal can make you do irrational things, I’ve been there, but never have I wanted to take people out with me. Dylan could have done it more because he just wanted to die, but there was clearly something else there. Not to mention the whole thing took a lot of planning, which doesn’t really mesh with an impulsive suicidal decision.
@@Charizarzar forsure something fishy asf with the groundwork and their mental states before and during the massacre, also i have been there in that state of mind, but the thing most people don't seem to understand is that there's levels of misery and despair to falling into depression. Im not making excuses for anything but its intriguing and should be studied on more.
@The Hooded Claw those always seem to be the motive but there's always something bigger than itself down below, that we have no clue about, its fair to say on neutral ground that killing the random is pretty horrific but why a person goes and does it, is something we all don't understand, even myself. I Believe its a selfish act of taking a generalized group down with you (like society or a certain group) maybe for no reason at all, just bc you suffered and believe others should too. Again they did horrible things but we never ask what actually drives a person there.
@@jewwhovotedfornaziparty I doubt his parents ever will. They were told time and again their son wasn't acting right. His former friend Brooks Brown, Eric Harris had vocally and written that he wanted to kill Brooks because he had threw snowballs and cracked Brooks windshield and left his backpack at the car, Brooks parents took the backpack and caught Eric as he was walking home told him to meet them at his house so they could talk to his parents and he blew up not at his parents finding out he broke a windshield but because he wanted his backpack. His dad sent him up to Brooks house to apologize and Brooks mom told him she didn't buy his act and he got pissed. Eric Harris wanted him dead in the school shooting because Brooks was supposed to pick him up for school a few weeks before the shooting and over slept and that was it for Eric Harris it was unforgivable. There were reports to the police about weapons and pipe bombs and the cops had drawn up a search warrant but do to some murders it never got signed and was put on the back burner and forgotten about. Brooks told police on the day of the shooting before they went in to the school that one of the shooters was Eric Harris. Dylan told Brooks that Eric was making threats against him which is how he knew to keep his distance. But Eric's parents were told he wasn't right mentally. Dylan was a follower and suffering from depression and other stuff found acceptance from Eric Harris and it was a deadly combination.
Can't blame them I wouldn't want to. You know they cried watching the tapes. Eric himself said that he feels bad for his parents who are loving cause this will kill them. Most school shooter parents don't speak out. What could you possibly say? You've lost a child and they're a killer. There's no winning.
she claims there’s no way to know when someone might do something as terrible as what her son did, and then goes on to explain in her own book exactly what created her son’s issues by explaining her own bad parenting get this woman off any stage anywhere ever.💀
When Sue broke down and said "he was so sweet" I couldn't help but cry with her. Dylan really did seem like such a sweet guy who ended up handling his problems in the worst way.
★ Froggie Animation ★ I’m sorry did we read different comments? Where did she say that she loved him? She wasn’t defending him, she was being compassionate towards his mother I think
MegaNekon he didnt kill people cause of bad parenting, he killed people cause he was bullied and principals did nothing about it. Jocks would be beating up their girlfriends in front of the teachers and they would do nothing about it
that's how she wants you to feel. don't buy this bitches lies. SHE IS RESPONSIBLE for the outcome of her child. A kid doesn't write this stuff in a journal without going through serious abuse at home. PERIOD!
Shut y’all asses up for real 😒 she is not lying this is her and her kid they are talking about idiots ofc she’s gonna throw some special events in there and that her kid can’t be w her anymore. Stop blaming her for this shit it’s not her fault its bitches like you who make her feel like shit m, maybe you should use that uno reverse card on yourselves🙄😒
freakyfornash she said he WAS so sweet. Obviously she’s heartbroken by what her son did and is probably devastated her child killed other people including himself
@@emilytsuge447 And she had it far more tough than the parents of the other kids did who died. It's not like she didn't lose a child either, and was all the more worse when her own son was one of the violent murders for that matter too.
@AlexanderTheNotSoGreat I don't really recall if they did. I can see why though. I mean it's not easy to explain why you didn't know your teenager was was making bombs in the garage, hiding guns and ammunition in his bedroom, and acting out to the point of the neighbors calling the police on him.
Can I just say this woman is gorgeous??!! She is so beautiful and so, is her heart, and she has become such a strong person since that horrible event she had to endure, which must’ve been so painful, especially about her son.
Diane Sawyer is clueless. My son suffered from depression at an early age for years. We took him to the therapist week after week and hospitalized twice. He was on just about every antidepressant. It was like walking on eggshells for years. My son lost his life at age 26. I feel for this mother. Not only did she lose her son, but having to accept what he had done. She didn't deserve to be blamed.
When i was a teenager i used to think Dylan's parents had some of the fault for what happened. But watching her interviews now, with a more mature mind, i feel so much empathy and compassion for this woman, i can only imagine how much suffering she endured after this tragedy. Looking back at my own teenage years, i remember i used to hide feelings from my mother too, it's not her fault.
I watched her Ted Talk. She said she suffered breast cancer, panic attacks and chronic depression from perpetual grief not only of her son, Dylan; but all the lives Dylan took.
These interview people are so cruel and emotionless, at least have some respect instead of asking questions such as " could you of prevented what happened at columbine" , obviously SHE COULDN'T , SHE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
@From the Futon that really doesn't make the interviewer right in any sense or form. If you want an accurate statement of truth, then your questions should have no form of bias
It’s not fair to blame his Mother. In some cases the parents are to blame, but she was a loving mother, who was little more than naive, like so many mothers. She was unlucky that her son suffered from such severe mental illness.
Dylan wanted to go through with "NBK" anyway (shooting up the school) but he actually planned to do it with a girl instead, Eric was just the next best thing to him
For those asking, the book is called "A Mother's Reckoning: living in the aftermath of tragedy" I also want to point out that people need to research stuff before they comment on things. If you read her book you would know that she gets NONE of the money she brings in from her books, it goes back in to her work and organization to help others.. Her goal in life is to prevent this and bring attention to people that have a mental illness and how parents can watch for signs and for people to try and get help.
I think you are completely wrong and have no right to judge her unless you are perfect and have no made any mistakes. She did what she could for her son . He was raised in a loving home and was given the best chance at life . He was raised in a great neighborhood with parents that did their best for him . He wasn’t abused or mistreated . She did what she could with what she knew at the time . She didn’t know about those journals. She didn’t know about the videos . She didn’t know how much hate and pain he felt . She didn’t know he had guns or bombs . She didn’t know because he hid those things . It’s so easy to judge her saying she should have known but you have no idea what it was like because you weren’t there and you haven’t been in that situation. No parent is perfect . No parent is mistake free . Stop blaming his mother for his actions . She is not to blame he is .
Dylan made a "love" list whilst Eric made a "hate" list. Edit: it doesnt make one love less or hate more. Maybe love was more significant to Dylan and hate more important for Eric.
That’s why I think with proper psychiatric help and getting him the HELL away from Eric, maybe Dylan’s role in this could’ve been prevented. Eric seemed way past any redemption. He got counseling and would just lie to the psychologist.
@@cassybowie2894 did their lists become victims ? It seems they just wanna kill people at their school, like not necessary because of revenge or something. Other student who survived at the time said that they treated the students/victims like game before killed them. I don't understand people said they did this shooting because their schoolmates bullied them, but just look at the victims, many of them were not even like famous students/ the people who mocked/bullied them. Why would they went straight to the library tho, not to the places when the students who bullied them like to hanging out like in school cafeteria / gyms/even class.
@@KimAhrina11 The only one that was on the hit list among the killed/injured was Austin Eubanks. There are also some people that are only described, but they could not be identified as there was no name or there was insufficient information to identify those people.
Yes,parenting did not cause this amount of mental illness. Both boys had a happy childhood. They lived in a gorgeous area in a two parent home with friends and pets.
Yes, and every parent has made some mistake with their child. Dylan had a home in a gorgeous location,both parents in the home but mental illness struck anyway.He was smart enough to hide it well.
unless the parent was a Handler and talk to her children to disassociate from birth and to turn them into a MK Ultra mind control mind-control slave and then she called her son her shiny penny and that's used in terminologies in mind control by the Handler they get their victim to go and kill people and then take their own
Sometimes making a good impact is as fucking simple as learning how (aside from been a parental figure) how tobe a friend to your child, it will do wonders for them to be more open, if you just limit yourself to the minimun requirements of telling them how only you know better and for them to be obedient or else or focus on the consecuences, then it will breed nothing good... no matter how much phisical abundance you have, if there is no social conection with the children it will never end good.
We can't fix this, Sue didn't make a killer, we all have pain inside and we can be laughing at a film or a clip on UA-cam, wander off to grab a drink and feel like our life is an unhappy heap. Then go back to our friends and keep on being the You everyone knows. No one knows how someone really feels if they're brave or private or ashamed of how they feel when there are so many people worse off in the world. Two lives, the public and the private. Usually the public one wins and we make it out into the world as "ordinary people" (never feeling very ordinary) but sometimes the other one wins and they self destruct, and occasionally they take people with them.
I was one that didn’t have many friends and didn’t care to go out really. I hated high school. My dad passed away my freshman year and all of my grandparents passed my senior year. The friends I once had betrayed me. However, I never had any desire to hurt myself nor others. I was in 8th grade during the Columbine shooting and I was hurting for the victims. I cared about others. Not every teen that is a loner is a bad person. It helps to recognize what they are going through too.
Except when she did like parents normally love to do... Instead of what's up with you they love to take the authority and throw the moral book at you. Generally speaking, as a parent if you seem to always be instructing, and not rooting for your child, that's a recipe for trouble. Especially in teenage years, they need to know they are part of a team, useful and they matter. They should never have free reign and lots of space before touching base with what's going on in their heart and being accountable. I do not judge her now, being a mum having to live with this would be so horrible and she is at least trying to make the world better now by being vulnerable.
She did nothing wrong. Maybe if the jocks's culture at Columbine wasn't that aggressive, it wouldn't result into two seniors committing mass murder then taking their own lives. I blame the bullying
I wish there was a comment stating that mental illness is a large part of the picture here. A person with a psychopathic personality disorder isn’t responsible for their disease. They are a sick person. I have multiple sclerosis and epilepsy neither of which have a known cause. I can’t control when I have a seizure bc medicines aren’t always effective. I do hope I’m not looked upon as being responsible for my diseases and I wish this could be true for these boys too. It was a tragic chain of events that caused the tragic results at Columbine HS. Not poor parenting.
I am so so so blessed that I wasn’t in the school at the time of the shooting, I was just over 15 and I got a fever which prevented me from going to school. I only found out about what happened that day when I was watching the news and saw that my girlfriend was shot and so was my best friend. After that, I entered a deep state of depression, I couldn’t think straight. I couldn’t comprehend the thought that the 2 people that I loved so dearly were truly gone. Also, Eric and Dylan (I think that’s how you spelled his name) we’re extremely “odd” and quiet kids at the time, but I never EVER expected them to do something so, so hurtful and thoughtless. I truly am sorry to all families that may have had their loved ones injured or killed during any school shooting, and I hope that something like columbine never happens again..
I remember when someone said that rachel scott was on the list that people he loved but it was never confirmed but people suspected since they saw an “R” scratch the other names idk because their completely scratch
Imagine being a semi-affluent white woman in the 90s with a cis het white boy and not managing to raise your son beyond "no one loves me back". What a failure of a mother.
Ikr...she put all that weight on the mothers shoulders "just like that"..Smh. Let's not 4get It wasnt just dylan, there's Eric as well so even If she did prevent her own son who is to say Eric wouldnt have still went thru with things.
Well it was actually dylan idea to shoot the school but i think it would’ve been better if they never met they both suffered from mental illness and since they both did they as friend brainstorm a tragedy that could’ve been prevented but theirs no excuse to their actions
Moody, irretibal,wanted to be alone. This is EVERY TEEN. I would have had no idea just like her.
Not true, my brother and sister was never like that when they were im their teens, I was the only one who was very moody and irritable because I was going through a lot of stuff. Generalisation is dangerous
I literally counted on my fingers how many of those traits that Sawyer listed that I personally experienced as a teen - easily embarrased, tearful, hard on myself if I made a mistake, shy into adolescence - and I counted every one of them, and then some. The only thing I definitely didn't check off on, or come anywhere near was school-shooter. Or violent.
Creepy as they are, trench coats don't make you murderous, either.
Whether these can really be signs, or are just things people need to believe are signs in order to give reason to such evil - at the end of the day, I feel that it's all within that one person's being. Something that's either malfunctioned or hyper-active in their brain, I don't know. Anyone can be any of these things that these kids were, and then none of these things and still do what they did.
I feel for Sue Klebold and, no doubt, the constant need of others for her to reiterate and to explain away what they need to believe. (Not that I blame ANYone for that need or reasoning, by ANY means. I obviously feel for everyone involved, tremendously). I just think that nothing is ever, ever so black and white. It's not things, it's a person - and select things may visibly weigh and/or push this kind of person to do what *only they* are capable of...
If it was as black and white as we need it to be, these situations would be more fool-proof... ☹
I'm halfway through my twenties and that still applies
It's really very simple. Parents need to be WAY more involved and hands on. Be a pain in your kid's ass if you have to. Yeah, I was a moody pissy, young teen, too. But my mom knew all of my friends and she was friends with their moms, too. So she would hear the gossip like if any of my friends and I were fighting and just know what was going on whether I liked it or not. Make sure their friends are decent people. My friends' parents were just as involved and would call and tattle on me if they caught me doing something I wasn't supposed to. In fact, I found out yeaars later that her and my dad would do sneak drive-bys when I was in high school and out at a friends house or party just to make sure things were on the up and up. I had no clue at the time! During one of those parties, one of my girlfriends moms' caught wind and basically dragged 5 of them out and home with her- everyone who hadn't told their parents where they were and wasn't supposed to be there. I got to stay, because I had actually told my parents what I was doing and got permission to go. Sure you need to give them space and privacy...to a point. They are still kids without fully developed brains that need guidance -even though they think they know everything. So get involved. Know what they are doing, who they are talking to, what they are talking about, etc. My parents were even checking my web history in the early days of the internet before I even knew web history was a thing, lol! Good parents do these things.
Nope! Then you’d be asleep at the wheel, if you have no idea what your teen is doing! It’s your job to control the environment to not do so is negligent!
She also lost a kid ...like all the other parents. There's no difference. Actually, there is.... she is burdened with losing her child and the guilt of being the mother whose son killed other parents' kids.
And the way she deals with the guilt is doing these interviews defending herself while hurting her son's victims over and over. Let's not mention the money she has made from these. I never blamed her as a parent of a mass murderer, but I do blame her for not victimizing the survivors by doing these. The Harris parents have at least made sure they didn't hurt others by doing public.
@@roxannemoser I think they went as public as they did to try and help other parents who's child may end up being the next shooter, to help them notice the signs to prevent anymore pain
Bit of a difference her son was an evil destrictive twat.but you're right not the mums fault.
@@josephmills6260 no, not everything a child does is the parents fault. So sorry that is a difficult concept for you to understand
@@jumpinglizards69 you didnt read my comment properly.i said its NOT the mums fault
"Didnt you wonder why he wanted a trenchcoat" well its a coat,a coat dnt make a killer
Trenchcoats had no stigma at this point it was there action and the medias accidental misrepresentation of the kids who wore trenchcoats thay created the stigma.
Yea coats don’t make killers, suicide thoughts, non medical drug use, that creates a killer
Back then trench coat was not bad and any one could wear it
I was a freshman when this happened and idk it must’ve been a fad but we had a group of dudes that wore those coats.. they had to stop after this
Trench coats were a thing in the 90's
As a teenager I was bullied and never told my parents about it. I hid all the pain. All those parents blaming the parents should have known are seriously delusional. No one knows what is in other persons mind and how dark other persons thoughts are if they choose not to tell.
I agree wit you . bullying changed me later on in life
I got bullied in elementary and then a couple of years later in Jr high I got revenge with my👊👊 not a gun.They respected me after.
sad that people can be so cruel
Fact's,💯 I was Bullied as a Youngster,(Mother too when she was younger due to having Dyslexia her Teachers Mocked her,(Art Teacher took cup of Water once thinking be funny & threw it at her face as a Joke at My Mother own Self-Respect expense class mockingly laughed at her) & When I was Bullied & Belittled I Chose to keep the Pain Inside/Stayed Silent,(Which should never do it's not good to let it build & Build/Recipe for Disaster), Should stand up for yourself/Have a Voice let it Roar & be Heard !, You can never know what goes on in the gear's of someone mind you can just observe how the Person Conduct's themself's & Be their for them & Help them Best ya Can.
Lame ass😂
"Didn't you wonder why he wanted a trenchcoat" It's just a fricking coat,a COAT!
Yes, if I remember correctly, a trenchcoat was just a trenchcoat before Columbine. It was only afterwards that there was this idea (that wasn’t even really a “thing”) called the trenchcoat mafia. Why the hell would any mother be alarmed over their teen buying a trenchcoat?!
@@jellie1188 How odd...In U.k we associate that style with the Army-as the brave WW1 men wore them in the freezing cold trenches-hence the name!
It's a duster coat.
Yeah shut up bitch
You're a fool, Eva.
"Didn't you wonder why he wanted a trench coat" why would she care what kind of coat he wears
Mackenzie Richards I reckon he wanted a Gucci one
The matrix was big then any nerdy kid who liked the movie had one
GhostsClipz Funny Moments no
Mackenzie Richards because now after the shooting people associate school shooters with trench coats even tho they where used in ww1 to keep people dry in trenches
Max Baio you fucking idiot. Thats a direct quote from eric harris journal.
“Could you have prevented what happened at Columbine?”
Are kidding me? What kind of interviewer are you?
Nolan great question
I know, that question was so offensive it pisses me off
She is an awful interviewer. She often asks cruel and insensitive questions to the people she interviews.
That was a cack-handed question at best.
I read this in her voice
There were MAJOR signs this boy was deeply troubled and his artsy fartsy parents were too wrapped up in careers and social life to notice. They are by no means at fault for what Dylan did, but they had some big failings as parents for not recognizing very problematic behavior before it was too late. This kid was playing with guns(video footage from Rampart Range), committing burglaries, in juvenile detention program more than once, acting out violent fantasies and recording them on video tape, showing clear signs of social anxiety, rage, depression, low self esteem, loneliness, despondency and much more. If we can see it clear as day from a handful of video tapes, his diary, court records and other anecdotes, how could his own parents have missed it living day in and day out with him?? There is no denying they failed as parents in some aspects. I think it's inappropriate for her to go on a tour mainly to clear her family of wrong doing and make this tragedy about her sons condition and not the countless people he harmed. All at the expense of more painful publicity to victims families. She can support the causes of stopping self-harm in private. She should close her yap, stay out of the spotlight and handle any apologies to victim families in private. This is not about her or her son anymore. It can't be fixed no matter how wonderful she said his childhood was.
Exactly! As Isaiah Shoel’s father said “if there were bombs being made in this garage, I would’ve known about it”
I know that was at Eric Harris house, but Dylan was right there with him. Sue was explicitly warned about Eric’s website and the fact that he had made bombs and threatened to kill people, and sue did absolutely nothing. Choosing denial instead.
That's a bunch of presumptuous armchair psychology.
@@TheFire1290 My post is literally a summary of hundreds of diagnoses and profiles written on the boy by some of the top medical doctors and FBI profilers in the country over the last 25 yrs, as well as what HE WROTE IN HIS OWN DIARY. It’s factual information that has been published in countless books, medical journals, investigative journalism pieces and even criminology textbooks. I also happen to be a licensed medical professional with 20 yrs experience. But we’re all just making “armchair presumptions” (including Dylan himself) according to you, Sir Internet Nobody😂
I am curious how old you were when this happened?
@@blazingstar9638 Old enough to have 2 children of my own at the time it happened.
It's Dylan Klebold's fault....not his mothers.
Not to mention Eric Harris' as well
You are wrong its Eric's fault
@@victraguiera3802 no. Eric AND Dylan killed those people, not only Eric. It's also Dylan's fault definitely.
@Squigga cool but eric AND dylan killed people. dylan isn't innocent at all
@Squigga bro wtf
Dont blame Sue about any of this..
Frodo Baggins you’re just dumb aren’t you lol
She is some to blame. Let’s not act like she’s 100% innocent. At the end Dylan did act on his own actions but she had a little to do with it.
I don’t completely blame her or think she’s different from any other parent but like many parents she’s guilty of not noticing the changes in her son and brushing them off this is her mistake and she knows it
@@Sergio-fu7mv
How do you come up with that???
Sarah Dixon she saw he was struggling with something, yes she didn’t know what but she chose to ignore it, and just called it a teenage phase. That bad decision had something to do with what happened. Maybe I’m over analyzing but that’s just what it seems to me.
This Mother is every Mother. She deserves compassion and respect.
Michael Little yes
Sabrina Dugan. What he was saying is called a figure of speech. You're pathetic.
@Sabrina Dugan The way you are speaking say's alot about you. I feel like you are a very judgemental person to conduct yourself this way. We have no way of knowing how she parented her son with her husband. I hope your children always live to the standard's you seem to have. It would destroy your world as you have very lite empathy and patience it seems.
Michael no she is not every mother she is also a victim her life has been ruined by her son and like it or not she lost the son she loved once when he died and again when she know has to mourn the son she thought he was as opposed to the monster who did this horrific act
Sabrina Dugan your an asshole!!!!
As a mother my heart aches for Sue. She is brave and loving. I remember as a teen, I hid so much from my parents. Sue reminds me so much of my mother. Extremely loving and involved but even then, I think we can hide things from even the most involved. The people saying “she should’ve seen the red flags”.. this one one of the first mass school shooting of a lot of our generation. We didn’t have the social media connection that we do now. A lot of things could be hidden. I will always have empathy for this woman. She’s hurt to a point that we couldn’t imagine!
True. Now his diary would have been on social media. 😢
Sue is a wonderful sweet mother that needs her peace its not her fault that Dylan did what he did sometimes parents have no control of what they children do
Tell that to a parent of someone who lost a child that day. The ONLY people on Earth that could have stopped this tragedy did nothing. And now THEY are the victims? Burn in hell.
And you've fallen right for her BS. She's never shown any remorse whatsoever and basically said it could happen to anyone. When she ignored MULTIPLE warnings from friends and family about her son's behaviour. Blood is on her hands
Even nowadays people don't have any idea, imagine back in the day
I usually like Diane but this interview is one of her worst. She’s judgmental and the questions are just rude af. Like kids are very good at hiding their depression and anxiety that you would never think anything was wrong.
Lost - i used to like her. Until my perception shifted. In addition to this interview....you should watch Diane with Britney Spears from circa 2001-2003. Cant remember exact year. But Diane is brutal there, too - perhaps she’s asking all the “tough” questions that other people are asking or wanting to know. But she goes right for the jugular.
Wait til she interviews Trump.. You'll see a nasty hate-filled hag
Diane Sawyer also had a look on her face which would suggest that she either has an awful smell under her nose or she drank an entire bottle of lemon juice. Some might say that Diane was disgusted with Sue Klebold writing a book and even doing public speaking engagements. However; some of my friends and co-workers have said that Diane Sawyer has always been a total bitch towards the people she has interviewed. That being said; I feel truly sorry for Sue Klebold and I wish her the best. You just never know what a person is going through until you have walked a mile in their shoes.
She’s always judgmental and rude
Yes, she was VERY judgemental here
It's disturbing how many people say that it isn't dylan's, but only eric's fault. clownery. they both killed those people.
Sotis175 Dylan still had a choice at the end of the day, and he made the wrong one.
Mostly because Dylan is more of a tragic figure
@@sotis1756 we are talking about killing people, we are not talking about breaking someone's car window, if he didn't want to do it, he wouldn't
I think it’s because Erics parents knew about him and there were signs with him, his father even called and said he thinks his son was one of the shooters. I think people have more compassion for Dylan because he seemed like he fell in with the wrong person. I have sympathy for his mother but Dylan choose his side the day he left for school on April 20, 1999
Well said! They were both sadistic murderers who destroyed lives. How interesting that Sue Klebold is now enjoying her 15 minutes of fame via her son's depravity. How does this woman live with herself? Well, I guess she was ok with raising a sociopath, so shame on me for asking the question...
The interviewer is disgusting. It’s clear by what she asks and the facial expressions she makes that she blames Sue for “not understanding what was going on”, but how could she know something was wrong if everything looked so normal? No one should judge. This woman has been through a lot and it’s sad to see that people still blame her for what happened.
Horrible fucking parent. Does she notice him having an arsenal ? Getting arrested? His dozens of home videos idolizing killing people ? Wearing a trench coat not to just look different but out of hatred ? Writing about taking his own life and committing more than one felony? And yet she hides, not speaking out about her mistakes for years, until writing a book and monetizing it. Constantly trying to justify it and make money from it. Fuck this lady.
@Sol Saenz-Arreola actually no she was aware of him being arrested multiple times, having weapons and talking about suicide. Get off your high horse.
@Sol Saenz-Arreola You think youre being so deep lol. She did know, he got multiple felonies before being 18. The parents legally have to know.
Matilde Mateus she doesn't ven have ANY KIDS.
Kryptonlte you, are an asshole. And I speak for MANY.
I was a senior in high school when the shooting happened. I want to hug this living mother, she lost a son too, it is not her fault.
She wasn’t a bad mom, she was a loving mom..
That's not enough. Listen to Jordan Peterson explain why smothering mothers are disastrous. I'm not saying this mom was, but kids need more than smothering mothers.
@@janicep1508 Zero indication that she was a 'smothering mom'. If anything, she regrets not digging more into his state of mind.
HIS PARENTS WERE RESPONSIBLE TOO! HAVE CHILDREN IS A STRUGGLE! EASY NO TO DO NOTHING!
She was a loving mom.....and there lies the problem. some people need guidance and even punishment in their raising. If you only love your child, that is not enough.
Orphan 1912 bruh what
"Could you have prevented what happened at Columbine?" This question is so cruel. The look in Sue's eyes broke my heart. You can clearly tell for a while she blamed herself and then to be essentially asked if she could have prevented the murder of those kids...so tragic how people will always blame her as long as the word 'Columbine" is remembered.
it is what people do when their children have died in the hands of such kids. It is a normal reaction. Eventually, they get to accept the reality as it cannot be changed. They stop blaming parents and adopt a more fatalistic attitude. It is what it and it's done.
The idiot things interviewers say. This takes the cake. How mean.
Jordan Tanner yeah they forget Dylan and Eric were grown they purchased the guns on their own and everything these were not children they were about graduate it's not like they were 12 She had no responsibility to know this was gonna happen
Historymaker2001 She's going to live with the guilt the rest of her life
Really tragic!((
Teens ALWAYS hide stuff from parents.
Sometimes it's difficult to talk
Some kids were into violence and dominating others, Hell all I was into was drugs and music
Theres a difference between hiding a couple grams of weed from ur parents and a whole fucking arsenal of weaponry
i think it’s just that teens are scared of what they would say
You can snoop through all their things, you can sit them down and talk to them for hours on end, you can put them through treatment centers for counseling and anger management courses, you can punish them when they do wrong, praise them when they do right, encourage them when they are confused, be affectionate when needed, and give them their space when they want to be left alone. You can be the best mom in the world and still not know that your child may want not only to commit suicide, but actually is a deranged killer and wants to kill 500 people before committing suicide. These actions by these two boys were not the acts of their parents. Especially in Dylan‘s case. The Harris’s though on the other hand? That is one huge question mark we will NEVER EVER get answered
I told my mom recently about what happened to me in school and it is much needed for everyone to do
She sounded like a overwhelmed mother of two boys, one on drugs and the other who seems to have had problems from his home life and school life which combined with teenaged hormones and angst and bad company pushed him over the edge... Very sad!!! I hope speaking helps her.
Western world with unstable kids and broken houses with no family values.
i feel sorry for his mother because she is not bad at all.
Rainbow Sunshine I know what her son did is bad but it was his choice so let it be
Rainbow Sunshine yeh your like the most realistic person ever, every one else blames a parent coz they can
Yes, and other parents who have since experienced this. You have to wonder what signs were missed with their kids. :(
Maybe not a terrible person, but a terrible parent. If your kid does a mass shooting, you have failed as a parent. You have failed to teach him basic morals and decency. Sure i feel bad for her loss, but she is partly responsible for this. Parents take credit for their children's accomplishments and need to also take responsibility for their children's atrocities.
She was probably one of these soft "do whatever you want everyone gets a trophy" parents. Should have confronted him long ago, then if he wouldn't change, send him to an institution for the criminally insane. Then put him to sleep
"didnt you wonder why he wanted a trench coat? what was that about?"
really..... liking or wearing trench coats is irrelevant
A Trench Coat IS relevant. You can hide a weapon I'm there, matter of fact, MANY of weapons. We're not even allowed to talk about school shootings.
Tanz Thomp yes it is irrelevant. If I asked my mom to buy me one she is not going to ask what it is for she would just think I'm making a fashion statement. Not that I'm going to shoot up a school.
Sadie cass I thought that was pretty judgmental and cunty on her part too.
Yes, that was ridiculous. Like Sue Klebold should have slapped herself and exclaimed " A trench coat like some of the kids at school are wearing?" "Do I look crazy, obviously you are going to shoot up the school in 4 months!"
Crudely, but well put!
I wanna hug this woman and say: “it’s not your fault!” She’s so sweet!
1000instruments Girl she should’ve done more. My parents went through my stuff and she screwed up there.
If I was visiting the Columbine Memorial and spotted a mysterious gray haired figure; I would assume that it is Sue Klebold and leave her alone because she's suffering enough as it is.
Michael Lovely the killers aren’t part of the memorial and for good reason. They caused the tragedy.
@@WickedlyMe328 Well, Sue Klebold explained that she has spent quite a bit of time at the memorial; but she doesn't go all that often because she feels unwelcome at the memorial. I do feel sorry for her because she was put through the wringer after the tragedy.
But it was her fault. 100%
I was one of the last people to be with my friend before he took his own life... and we were together pretty much all day. I knew he had depression, but he was in therapy and suicide watch. His parents checked on him throughout the night, and we thought he was doing better. We did everything we could to help him, but he still died. I feel so bad that I was one of the last people he was with and had no idea what he was going to do.
If your friend who you know has depression suddenly seems happy and okay, that is the moment they need to be checked up on the most. They may be happy that it is finally all going to end, so seriously, don't make the same mistake I did
Happiness is only superficial, no one is truly happy when they have depression
When she says, "He was so sweet," it breaks my heart. I cannot imagine trying to wrap your head around the fact that your child turned into a hateful murderer, especially one who (apparently) had such a loving, gentle temperament as Dylan. I commend her for actually stepping up and saying something.
Hannah Moran That part made me cry, this whole thing is just so sad.
Exactly what I was thinking
And I can't wrap my head around the fact, that most people including media are actually defending the bullies and the people that just stood there and cheered and blame the actual victims and thier parents among other things. He had a reason for his hate and unlike most other people who get bullied so badly he snapped and acted on it, that's the danger of throwing people over the edge for your own amusement. The rest of his life was already destroyed by those so called victims. My partner works with people who had to go through this and they will never be able to live a normal life, have friends and family and be happy, many of them commit suicide at the age of 25-40 and there is NOTHING psychological help can do about it. Bullies are the true murderers and those just happened to kill more than just thier victims through their actions. Yet they never get punished, no instead they get confirmation that it's their victims that are wrong.
Thank you!!! Nobody else seems to notice that, the enablers were his peers in school. Not his parents. The system made him into a monster. Sad thing is that today bullies continue causing deaths by enabling suicide.
If bullying means dominating other people and enjoying feeding off their fear and powerlessness with no empathy for others at all, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were the ultimate bullies. There is no indication that they were given a harder time at school than any other kids. They came from nice homes with nice families and had people in their lives that cared about them. They did seem to be entitled and incredibly narcissistic though. Maybe they were spoiled brats more than anything else. Maybe that's what made them into 'monsters' rather than the 'system'.
“He builds his own computer”
“He hacks into the school computer system”
This was 1999!! Computers were such a new thing.
This guy had so much potential. This event is endlessly sad, truly tragic, in so many ways.
Weinmonster Chicago not really getting computers were a new thing in common households
Yeah computers started to pop up in the 70s when my dad was in HS. Since it was the new thing he got interested and is now in IT (information technology)
Yea, potential to destroy even more lives. Fuckin idiot.
@who cares Satan Lured dylan
Who thinks they will go to a better place by killing others?
Val R nice sentence structure, dumbass. Lol.
I hope she finds peace some day.
Banana Hammock She's reaching out and trying to help others who are struggling with suicidal thoughts so I think she's able to have some peace now
Im just glad she can't procreate anymore
Josh G Can you fuck off please
Whoa! Looks like we got a badass up in here going by the name of John G.
@@nicksttrs kim
I don't understand how anyone can absolve her of any blame. She was warned multiple times about how violent and dangerous he was. She literally even found a BOMB that her son made and did nothing. She even tells a story where Dylan flat out told her that he could not control his anger. She failed as a parent. Dylan wasn't even the only dysfunctional kid she had. Her other son was kicked out at 19 because he got a DUI.
How would she need to be blamed at all? Seems like an average parent to me. Misses some signs, addresses others maybe not as aggressively as she should have, the "bombs" , maybe she simply did not know how to respond or just assumed it was some experiment of his, not out of the ordinary for teenagers into technoloogy and such to construct unorthodox stuff or whatever. I take it you arent a parent, or maybe you are, but overall as far as i can see through the computer screen she doesnt deserve a single bit of blame for the murders, shes just a mother that lossed her child to suicide and probably hurts more than anybody else involved in all of this in the end
@@austingibbs1448 I certainly am a parent. She ignored MANY signs, not just a few little things. She was TOLD what he was capable of and just didn't even try to do anything about it. One of her sons is a hardcore drug addict and she literally kicked him out without helping him at all. You know what happened with her other son. She's literally 0/0 and you fell for her BS.
@@Aarrrow What should she have done? force them into counseling or something? We can point out flaws in any criminals parent's parenting all day but it's not her fault her kid was a drug addict and the other a killer. Some could argue that not kicking her son out for doing drugs would be enabling him, maybe you could take into consideration the weight she had on her shoulders already from that situation, there's alot of angles to parenting and decisions, i just don't understand why people insist so much that she's at fault somehow. Even if she is, i think she's had more than enough karma on her at this point.
@@austingibbs1448 What could she have done?? Literally ANYTHING. She didn't try a single thing. She didn't try to get him any kind of psychological help whatsoever.
You must be a troll. There is no way that you honestly believe anything you just said. 😂
@@Aarrrow Maybe she just didn't comprehend how serious it actually was. What would you do if you were her out of curiosity? Force your child to go to a counceler? What if that action was what just made her or him snap and make these terrible decisions? do you think you would deserve to be blamed for it? I don't know why i'm still responding, I'm just curious about your thought process on this but it seems like you just have a need to express your need to point out flaws and then call people "trolls" or whatever for questioning it. But whatever, its the internet and you're entitled to your wrong opinions
befriending Eric Harris was a key point to Dylan's downfall
be a friend to your kids is important so you know who is in their life.
ya
I agree. Seems like Dylan could have potentially been a good person, but Eric was a psychopath from the start. Eric even wrote that he wanted to be a cannibal in his diary and that he hated humanity. He was a very bad influence.
Yes
From playing with Transformers toys as a five-year-old (as per the photograph Sue Klebold provided to Oprah Winfrey's O magazine) to the Doom video game and Pulp Fiction as teenagers.....OMG.....JUST PLAIN SCARY 😰
She looks so pained. I feel awful for her.
she got what she deserves. Bad mommy!
Des Troya that’s a terrible thing to say.
Making a living on what her son did? Please.
Feel bad for the victims smfh!
Yea she's good at eliciting pity.
The poor woman. She lost more than anybody involved, and she’s made to feel like she’s not allowed to be upset because of the role her son had in everything
How did she lose more than anybody involved?
Roo James because she has to live with not only losing her son, but also the burden and immense guilt of her son’s crimes .
@@Hi-qe9gt I think it's silly to say her loss is more than the other parents who had to bury their innocent children. I doubt those parents would agree.
Roo James yes but they didn’t have to feel guilt over wondering why their kid shot up a school
I think it’s inappropriate to say someone lost more or less in this massacre. Ofc some people didn’t lost loved ones and ofc these people didn’t lose as much but you can’t say Dylan’s mother lost the most. No hate though. I sympathise with the mother. She seems really loving and nice.
This lady creeps me out. A press tour and book, really? She had SO MANY chances to intervene with Dylan and at least keep him the hell away from Eric (whom he he had committed multiple felonies with and gotten caught). What is her message here? Bad taste all around. The more I learn about the actual facts of the Columbine shooting the less I want to hear from this lady making it all about herself.
this
White American suberban culture at it's finest... or worst. Future generations will study the immense bloodshed that was shed in the name of whute suburban entitlement.
im sorry but did you not watch the video? she did not know anything was going on with dylan. and she clearly was worried about her own son than whoever he was hanging out with. she still gets blamed and hated on til this day. give the poor woman a break.
She's an activist for teens and parents now and is trying to do her bit to help, is it going to erase what her son did? Of course not but what she's doing is better than hiding away
People need to stop judging Sue. It's fucking stupid, imagine if you were in her shoes. I pray for this woman. In my eyes she's a great parent. But kids are good at hiding things. No matter how hard you try to talk to them about things, they keep it to themselves.
Brandon Versace isis
ShadyxFiascoX 32 fuckin really? ""He might be a school shooter, but he shoot ((innocent)) jew kids, the race I hate, so he's a hero"" is what you're saying? You're a goddamn disgrace, consider that comment deleted pls.
Brandon Versace It's Her Fault For Giving Birth to Dylan
The Shoes in 1999 weren't that good.
Zenays Jordan's and Nikes
I was so shocked to see Diane Sawyer, who usually is so warm and kind and gentle, ask such insensitive questions. I am so glad to read the responses to this video. They are kind and compassionate toward a woman who, obviously, has suffered and is still suffering. My heart breaks for this Mother.
Diane Sawyer has ALWAYS been a pretentious fucking bitch. She just let her true nasty personality show here.
@@toomuchtruth I was just about to say. Hasn't she always been like this? :D
@@feefee6713 Yeah she comes across so patronising & fake anytime she tries to PRETEND to be empathetic & kind. It's quite nauseating to watch actually.
Vicki Goodman Diane Sawyer worked for the Nixon administration and was one of the few who continued to work with him after he resigned. I don’t have a lot of respect for her and I’m not surprised that she asked pointed unsympathetic questions.
@@Musika1220 yeah, she comes across as a horrible, miserable pretentious bitch.
I think they're missing the point, High School can make people cynical.
That's the age where you really start to notice how people treat each other and judge one another.
Like how he mentions "Jocks" if you're attractive, good at sports people put you on a pedestal and more accepting of you. But if you're different others can make you feel ostracized and unwanted or have little value.
Being a teen and not knowing who you are or what your strengths are, can cause deep seeded resentment. Which may manifest through violent fantasy or I'am gonna show them not to fuck with me mentality.
+MrButtlettuce Don't blame high school, violent fantasy always exist in primitive gun culture.
I was a little hooligan growing up. I destroyed mail boxes, stole shit from stores, egged cars, took my dads car out for a joy ride at age 14, and got in fights, but I was still a nice kid overall. lol
Humans are by default naive, they don't say to themselves "I might get murdered today" or "is my kid a mass murder'? People just don't function that way it has nothing to do with providing a good life for their kids.
You also have to remember that columbine was the first of it's kind people just couldn't imagine something like this happening.
+Ed Aispuro a felony for stealing. What you are going to call everybody who has stolen something a monster? Yes he did horrible things afterwards but this was before. Like she said at the moment she thought it was the worst thing she could go through. She was his mother he could have been sweet to her, unfortunately society made him a monster.
+Ed Aispuro It's called coping.
***** You sir need more compassion. No one is denying that he murdered people, but sometimes you have to look at both sides to understand and for the story to not be repeated. She is not denying that her son did any of that, but regardless of what he did he will never stop being her son. She has a right to remember him for what he was to her whether that being a sweet person or a murder. You are the one who has to take your head out of your ass. Take a step back and look at society, school can truly break you I was bullied throughout elementary and middle school, high school finally gave me a break, and while I didn't feel like I wanted to kill anyone everybody copes with things differently. One thing I agree with you is for parent to pay more attention to their kids as some might need professional help, so that unfortunate events like this don't continue to happen.
God, seeing Sue cry over her memory with Dylan hurt. What a brave woman, I'm sorry she has all this happen to her.
What the hell does 'bravery' have to do with a serial killing??? In the land of freedom you are used to mass shootings daily. So i will totally listen to what you have to say.
“Could you have prevented what happened at Columbine?”
I'm sorry, but that was extremely inappropriate. Notice how specific the question is worded, implying that Sue is the reason this happened. Shame on that "interviewer".
She's always been horrible.
I thought it was a great straightforward question 🤷♀️.
It’s a great learning question for the audience and for parents. It sounds offensive because feelings are used instead of using their heads. It helps Sue to look at signs and actions that were missed that could help parents today to help their children .
@dani cali some people are just evil. if ppl wanna kill, theyre gonna kill. its nothing to do with a person’s family life, its just theyre a sick human being
She might have well asked “Could you have prevented or predicted his mental health illness (issues) or anyone else’s?” How ridiculous! I’m surprised Diane Sawyer didn’t blame her for not realizing her son was cutting himself; many teenagers cut/self-harm in non-conspicuous areas. Parents are the last ones to ever know.
My heart fucking broke when she said "he was so sweet" ...she didnt even know and that tears me up. It's so easy to hide it.. but one day it becomes too much and you just cant hide it anymore..
Want candy
@Tatsujiro Kurogane Dylan didn't snipe anyone. If you're going to make fucked up jokes at least be factually correct.
And my heart "broke", when those 2 psychopaths killed at least 12 people.
Of course the bitch knows her son is a sphyco .
@@eribertooooo do some research on what a psycho is before you start pointing a finger
So many people seem to overlook the pain that both the Klebold and Harris families must have felt after the events of Columbine. They lost their children as well, and on top of that, have to deal with the fact that they committed these horrible murders. Very brave of Sue Klebold to come forward after all this time. Also, I don't think that Dylan was any more awkward looking than 90% of teenage boys look or feel at that age. Shame he took the path he did instead of getting help.
+Michael Milazzo He reminds me of Elliot Rodger cause in his journal he seems most full of despair about not having a "girl"
boo hoo. They were responsible for that pos
I think Sue is remarkably brave. Even an interview like this. Come on, she was supposed to know something was wrong because her son wanted a black duster coat like some of the kids at school were already wearing? The trench coat mafia was a media exaggeration, it was actually the class before Eric and Dylan that dressed like that and used the name in the yearbook just to be silly.
I agree, tigertbalm. I too did a double take when the reporter asked her if she didn't find it weird that he wanted a trench coat. It's a friggin' piece of clothing. I own a black trench coat. I know lots of people who have one. None of us would even ever *think* of doing something like what they did.
When I was 18, I dressed all in black cos my favourite band was the Cure and I wanted to emulate Robert Smith. It's normal teenage behaviour. Insinuating that Sue is to blame for not reading something into her boy's desire for a piece of clothing is pretty damn short-sighted and just plain mean.
BTW, I'm currently listening to Sue's audiobook (she narrates it herself) and it's totally heartwrenching. Worth the listen (or the read, whichever) but it's tough at times, and I really feel for her and her family.
His classmates who bullied him were if not more so. Do you know that some people would throw ketchup soaked tampons at him and the other killer? They had to go through the rest of the day covered like that. I was bullied just as badly. But I didn't have friends that were also sick.
The fact this Mother took the time and energy to write a book and then allow all of the proceeds to charity is just awesome. Much respect.
I feel like Eric was a sociopath but I think Dylan was depressed and got consumed by it. Somehow it makes me sad. I genuinely think he would've had a normal life if he just got through highschool and moved onto better things.
His Mum is intense.
there is actually an article on this from around 2004 that explores both eric and dylan and they did say eric was a full blown psychopath while dylan was depressive and suicidal. one quote was "dylan was hurting inside while eric wanted to hurt other people." and its based off of the fbi and various psychologists and psychiatrists analyzing the two of them and the event as a whole, so it isnt BS. they even said dylan would have never carried out the massacre without eric, whereas eric would have done something heinous regardless if dylan was there or not. so it basically comes down to if dylan had never met eric, he would have lived a fairly normal life and would prob still be alive. all the analysts say eric no matter what was going to do something like this, that no amount of help would have deterred him. they said if anything, eric dying that day saved the world from him doing much worse damage because he had originally wanted to go as big as the Oklahoma bombings. he wanted people to die by the hundreds.
here's the article www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/assessment/2004/04/the_depressive_and_the_psychopath.html
Bec I agree completely
Lisa Perkett yeah that’s true. But depression isn’t just sad feelings. It’s also hating yourself and others and tendencies to lash out against those around you.
Sue Klebold comes across as a loving, compassionate mother. Any parent without a psychology background would have missed the signs. I pray she finds peace because it was not her fault.
She finally did. She's an advocate for Brain Health and Mental Illness awareness.
Watch her Ted talk
Missed bomb-making material and all the guns?!?
@@DonOneDetroit kids are good at hiding things.
@@DonOneDetroit the stuff he made. It was in the garage. How many of us go search our garage? The houses they lived in were near the school. I’ll bet they hid their stuff in the attack door area in the garage.
She couldn’t have stopped it. Hardly any mom thinks her kid would shoot the kids at school. She didn’t know he access to guns that would do it. One if the kids parent worked in the same building as someone I knew. I don’t know which one. She told me they found out because they got the lady out of work and you couldn’t hear her scream NO NO NO, snd cry. She practically collapsed. Some one took her home. The police were at her house. She left the job. They never knew whst happened after that. Both kids had a mom snd dads in the house. It wasn’t horrible kids on the outside. But what on earth goes on the inside of the kids that do this? It’s so frightening and scary. You can’t let your mind go there.
Hate that the woman interviewing Sue has a sort of constant constipated look to her face. I think it's taken more strength than the interviewer could ever imagine to do what Sue Klebold has done. To write a book, to confront every issue on every angle. I take my hat off to her for all that she's been thru and how hard it must have been to revisit all those emotions and memories time and time again. I'm sure her book, her experiences and her charities are helping thousands.
InterCity82 >Diane Sawyer, she likes the sound of her own voice.
InterCity82 Yes mrs k. is very courageous to look HONESTLY at what has been instead of the perception of life that we all carry in our own life experince. My son, lil' Johnny, died may 19, 2017 at the age of 22. So ive been learning a lot lately of seeing life through another's perceptions . And for a parent seeking the full understanding of whats happened; it demands courage and honesty. And it requires one to come to the place where we can understand that what has happened, has happened. However many different ways that one sees it still doesnt change what has happened. And healing will be in how one looks at things now. With forgiveness. Wherever that lies, there must be forgiveness. For ourselves and others.
LOL all that she's been through. She was so disconnected from her son that she didn't know he was building bombs and stockpiling ammunition in her garage. That's called guilt.
That's Diane Sawyer. What in the hell is the matter with you?
Jamie Davis right? Haha
Hearing how Dylan was at home honestly breaks my heart, he just seemed like he had been going through a lot his high school years.. I just wish he didn't decide to take it out on innocent people, he had a bright future ahead of himself, if only someone had noticed his depression and was able to help him.. R.I.P all victims of the Columbine shooting, a truly tragic day in history.
it's tragic, but even if you notice someones depression, helping them is not so easy.
“Hearing how Dylan was at home honestly breaks my heart”
You do realize he had pipe bombs in his closet, does that break your heart, or the fact he had his own website with hundreds of threats and a hit list, is your heart still broken. Sue was a terrible mom and raised a monster of a son.
I dont think he is a victim bro, he had opportunities and still chose to kill innocent children, what breaks my heart is the innocent people that were murdered because of this psycho
@@JohnfromWaterFrontVilligeexactly when i read that comment i nearly puked, how can you feel sorry for someone that murdered and slaughtered innocent people, its comments and parents like this that are the reason kids do what they do
@@JohnfromWaterFrontVilligeyou’re the monster lol nobody is perfect
You know you're watching American media when the news reporter correlates wearing a trench coat with committing a school shooting.
Charles Borsavage what did he hide the guns in? Oh right! The trench coat.
Jamie Davis you’re dumb as hell 😂
Not really Scott Poor, I had a cop tell me that trench coat wearers were always suspect and much of the time they had a substantial weapon under it.
the two supposed killers are actual footage of the South Park creators.
I have traveled all over Europe, and find your comment ignorant as hell.
In my opinion Sue is incredibly brave. She could have ignored, denied or placed blame on others for what her son did. Her honesty is appreciated and respected!
Honey D didn’t they also move of Colorado idk about sue but i think she still lives in Colorado but idk about eric parents i think they moved because i heard it somewhere
this! especially because the other family we literally never heard from again. She comes out and does all of these interviews knowing the hate she will get.
@@ry-yn6rd my heart goes out 2 her🙏
@@ss-yn1ky you took the words out of my mouth. People are responsible for their own actions. When it comes to violence, there are victims on both sides. Imagine losing your child and knowing he took other people’s children away. I think what she’s made of the tragedy is commendable. If I could give her a hug, I would.
@Duchess not easy too be a parent and comming out talking about their son that is one of the worst school shooters in america
Dear Mrs. Klebold, I am so sorry for your loss and your pain. It must take tremendous courage to tell your story. Thank you for sharing with us, and educating us about brain health and what it's like to be a survivor of such tragedy. May God bless and strengthen you as you continue on your journey.
@Gunos Bruh CHILL!! I mean, no one had expected that Dylan would have been part of this. Eric looked like a frickin' psychopath while Dylan actually looked innocent and was actually nice to people most of the times before the shooting. Ex. He helped Rachel with her play. When the music tape jammed, he quickly rushed and fixed it. At that point, anyone could've looked at Dylan as a friend.
Please do not cry, I'm sure you would have avoided what happened if you could have, but who's to imagine when you knew you raised him with Pride and Values and in Faith. God Bless You.
Sunshine M: So very true.
I think middle school is usually what messes kids up. Elementary school, maybe. But middle school is the worst, because that is usually when kids start going through puberty. Also, it's when kids start changing.. you may not have the same friends. You may go from have a big group of friends to a small group, or none.
I agree middle school was the worse for me
soo ttu
Same. Losing friends one by one.
CountryButterfly56789 how old are you when you're in middle school?
Couldn't agree more. Middle school was absolute hell for me.
Sue is being so strong, talking about all of the things her son did, answering all of Diane's rude questions and remarks.
Ikr
This is not a healthy woman.
Lanie Jean I agree with you. My heart breaks for her the same as all the victims and their families. It’s sad :(
You cannot blame parents for every action of their children. Their children are individuals. This poor mother probably beats herself up everyday over what her son did. This whole case is sad all around. I hate even being reminded about it
Her husband divorced her after the tragedy.
@@kittylover62 people cope different but I hope he didn’t blame her
@@nonashay That actually was the reason they divorced. They couldn’t agree on how to cope.
@@nonashay He didn't blame her but wanted to completely shut off from the world since everyone hated them. But she couldn't cope like that and wanted to face everything head on. They just couldn't cope the same way and ended up divorcing
There were red flags she missed. You can't deny that. Being pre occupied with the other siblings addiction sounds like her youngest got forgotten.
I'm autistic and bipolar along with some anxiety disorders including ocd. when i was unmedicated and going through the worst parts of my illness, i understood exactly what it's like to have the mindset of dylan klebold. i understand it perfectly. with therapy and lots of meds i never get those thoughts anymore. haven't for several years. i'm curious if dylan was dealing with being on the spectrum and also being bipolar.
I'm schizoaffective myself and I understand it also. Also on meds now. -_-' Before medications, I was having problems with my relationships because I kept feeling betrayed by the people who I should be able to trust the most, and at times had desires to kill them or urges to hurt them. Those urges were so strong that felt like a tidal wave of anger just waiting to overwhelm my sense of control if I didn't do something different to change everything. Their reactions to me did not help either because they couldn't understand where I was coming from. I went to the mental hospital and asked to be put on meds since I had been off of them for a long time since getting diagnosed. It was hard to get past my feelings, but I can't believe how much better I handled everything after getting on the right meds. It could be literally life and death. I think other people being understanding and compassionate about it is important also, though.
Some psychologists who have had access to material that is not publicly available, theorize he might have had BPD.
I really feel like Dylan could’ve been helped.
what about Eric?
@@thebestofallworlds187 Apparently Eric was a nasty piece of work anyway, he was verbally abusive and violent.
Eric was a ticking time bomb. His only chance could've been the army, but he was rejected so that was it for him.
Yes, Dylan possibly could have been helped. Eric again, sorry to say but there are some people who just can't be helped & unfortunately, Eric Harris was one of them. It's hard to say because he was someone's child but there it is.
A lot of kids who shoot up schools could have been helped. I think 99% of them would never have done what they did if someone actually took the time to help.
Many of them were depressed, bullied, and dealing with things that they couldn't understand or didn't know how others would react to their feelings.
I remember watching a video on UA-cam from Ted Talk about a guy who was in a very similar situation that those shooters were in. He never did kill anyone, but he talked about how he was planning on doing it but because someone actually cared about him, it changed his life.
I don't believe for one second his mother could have done anything to change what was going to happen. She is blaming and guilting herself.
George Wood really ? So if she didn’t find the guns or bombs or basement tapes she couldn’t have stop it?
Lil Peep lil peep took lzzz
I have an AMAZING MOTHER. However when I became suicidal she didn't really know until it got bad. I learned how to hide it all. Trust me, when you are mentally unstable, you could find a way around your parents. She mostly just chalked it up as teenage mood swings rather than mental illness. Eventually, she saw through it, but it took her a while.
It’s heartbreaking that people blame her. She seems very sweet and if she knew anything like this would happen she would have gotten her son help. She suffers as well she not only lost her child but her child is a murderer! Whoever threatens her should be totally ashamed of themselves. Poor thing
Dunno, many parents manage to not have their kids grow into hateful, people-slaughtering monsters.
Ofc she will depict everything she was complicit in within the best possible light for herself, easy to say "oh yeah I was totally loving and cared about my son and was the best mum eva" after your kid shoots up a school.
She CREATED the best that murdered, and we should fell SORRY for her. Are you serious???
@@RatBoi-tk2zbHOW IS IT HER FAULT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S ACTIONS???
@RatBoi-tk2zb some people are screwed from the start. Born evil. It's not her fault
15-20% thought about suicide? Bruh everyone I talk to wants to die
they don't actually want to die, they're just over exaggerating poor mental health and making jokes about it. this is why nobody today pays attention to people who are legitimately struggling, because every adolescent and teen claims they're "depressed" and "anxious" and tells everyone "I want death" constantly. I have a sister who's 16 and she has serious anxiety and depression and has never once said any of that. kids today need to remember that not everything is as bad as they think it is.
Aislinn G I somewhat agree. Im very depressed but I never talk about it or mention how badly I want to die. I hate getting attention. But also just because people say they want to die doesn't mean they're always bullshitting. That's just some people's way of asking for help. There has been so many cases where a person has committed suicide and has told numerous of people of how badly they wanted to die or made dark jokes about dying. Everyone handles depression differently.
Wanting to die must be part of the human condition if you have an over abundance of awareness like a lot of people
Your circle of friends don't represent the general population.
TJRockPL bruh is a fucking stupid, lazy word to use
Imagine how she has to live now. Going to the doctor and having the nurse call "sue klebold!" And EVERYONE in the room knows exactly what that name means..
Actually, I never heard of her until I came across this video. Most people in the U.S. are obsessed with stories like this, esp. if they happen to "us". As the saying goes, "If it bleeds; it leads." Sensationalist shootings & bombings get much more media attention that explaining complex situations about environmental threats or economic policy, and we care more about 15 Americans that died than we do about the millions who have died in the DRC (Congo). But I say, "we", b/c I really DON'T pay attention to stories about shootings or serial killers. In fact, I didn't even know the boy's names who did the SHOOTING at Columbine or any details on what happened until just yesterday when I watch a documentary here on YT about it. I actually think it's better to forget their names lest other potentially dangerous people idolize & imitate them.
Ikr, I was 12 when it happened but I remember everything so clearly. The names, the stories, everything, it was so crazy no one had ever heard of a school shooting before.
Yeah, and Klebold is a pretty unusual name too, so that definitely doesn't help. People would pretty much automatically associate that name with the shooting.
A lot of doctors staff will call you back by your 1st name now. Just for HIPPA prima.
3:36 he looks like such a likeable person but he turns out to be a shooter 😢
Of course he looks likeable while smiling to the camera. But you don't see him walking around in a trenchcoat, listening to heavy metal, while making b ombs in the garage.
Janice P uhhh what you wear and what type of music you listen too doesn’t mean you will turn out to be someone terrible. that’s stupid
@@station2krill you're right, it doesn't determine if someone will be evil. But art in all it's forms takes on meaning, imitating life. Style speaks, music speaks. It sends a message.
Janice P i understand that but i listen to black metal. it’s one of my favorite genres. it’s easily more satanic and violent in regards to its visuals and lyrics and such. but hate the thought of hurting others- in any way. my brother listens to that kind of music, too, and he’s very very sweet and does not wish to be violent. my first concert, a metal one, i was in the pit and close to the barricade and those around me protected me because they saw i was young and new to the experience. it’s easy to blame it on music or a music scene that is so different from the mainstream or seems violent, like people blame with video games.
IKR!!! Its so weird.
I too had that same revelation about being a good wife and mother after my husband left our marriage of 17 years….it was all in my head. It made me realize how little control we have as individuals over other people’s behavior. This is reality. This is a revelation…still trying to hold onto hope and joy, even though i no longer trust other people like i used to, as a matter of fact, im the only person who has not let me down.
God will never let you down💗
Wah wah cry more
This momma breaks my heart when she cried Oh god her pain
Sabrina Dugan If you read her book you'll realize that she has always carried a lot of sadness for the families affected by her son and that she has anger for the legacy that Dylan left behind that she has to deal with because he isn't here to do it. This woman blames her son for the tragedy and hardly addresses bullying but what was within Dylan that caused this. She's shared so many emotions and doesn't try to downplay his actions but she still loves her son and her heart aches for everybody involved. She took all these years to finally have the courage to step out and speak risking her being called a bad mother. Please don't assume you know everything there is to know from watching short clips of her
her fault
@Sabrina Dugan Thanks, Sabrina. I was about to say the same, but since you beat me to the punch.
People like Kim are ethically compromised even to say something like this.
James Gray She actually does take responsibility and carries the blame that Dylan isn't able to take. She has a lot of mixed emotions about the whole ordeal but she does have empathy for the families. It has been said that Dylan was bullied quite a bit but she really doesn't discuss that in her book. I guess no matter what she does or says will be good enough for you. A lot of parents make excuses for their kids when they hurt others but she really didn't. Nice job bringing Trump into the discussion btw.
@Sabrina Dugan she has the same pain and even worse because she has to deal with the guilt of what her son did to other parents kids
I don't think what her son did makes her a terrible mom, i just think that she should of looked more into his odd behavior, but at the same time I don't think any parent thinks their child will go to school one day, to shoot their classmates and teachers. I cannot imagine the guilt she must lives with everyday and I'm happy to hear that she is donating all of the profits from her book to different meant health organizations.
So many parents have kids who act weird at times, they try and get them to talk about it but mostly they think it's normal teenage behaviour so are happy to let it past. They never think their child would act out in that manor, it's ridiculous to call them incompetent
Yes.. and no parent is perfect. No human is perfect. There are always going to be tiny little mistakes that parents make.. it's just that sometimes those tiny mistakes may lead to big tragedies. But it's not like we can see the future. It's not like we can see what exactly is going through someone else's mind.
He didn't have any odd behavior. There was nothing she could have done so stop blaming her
Jillian Blumberg
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That poor woman will never get the respect she deserves for conducting this interview.
The harsh reality is that parents do play a role in these situations. This doesn't mean I don't have compassion for Sue, it doesn't mean I can't understand where she's coming from, and it definitely doesn't mean Dylan is not at fault because he absolutely is. (It's never okay to end another person's life just because you've suffered or are suffering.) However, for people to put all or most of the blame on Dylan, would be detrimental to kids and families everywhere. If parents don't understand their impact and role in their children's mental health, then this will continue to happen. It's more than just mental illness; there are environmental, social, and behavioral factors as well.
Agreed. I find it strange that no one in the comments has picked up on the fact that she admitted to physically assaulting her child in the interview. On Mother's Day, no less. Wonder how many other instances of this "parenting style" were shrugged off as normal. As a child abuse survivor and mother of three teens myself, stuff like that has serious impact on growing adolescents. Especially males who were not given the tools/permission to deal with heavy emotions in a healthy manner.
The whole Mother's Day portion was heartbreaking. It's hard to see those boys as humans but they really were.
Yet it is exactly the kind of harmful manipulation some children have to endure. Its mothers day, you forgot about it, its your fault, I'm the victim and you're a bad kid.
It WAS an adolescent phase. He just never had the chance, due to his actions, to grow out of it.
What shocked me the most was all the hate and anger that Dylan showed the day of the shootings. He made sure to torment every victim before killing them. He is the louder of the two that day. Most ppl see him as thefollower, and he was the follower, but he was very upfront the day of the event. He was like a bomb exploded. More audio from the event has come out and it's just crazy to hear him and eric in the library screaming. shooting and tormenting their victims .
Almost all of these shooters would have grown out of these feelings and phases in college and after college. Dont make decisions in the moment that will have life long consequences. Stay in the moment. but always be aware of the consequences of your actions down the line.
It wasn't just a momentary lapse, they planned it for months. They had been outcasts for years. Evil had taken over.
They had extreme mental illness its hard to make good choices without mental help or stability
@@joeythekangaroo8211 There's mental illness...and there's evil. I was shocked when I watched a documentary the other day about the shooting & the things these young men said, & how they terrorized their victims & killed innocent people. That's evil.
@Jay D I'll have to listen to that 911 recording. But how can you tell whose voice is whose??
I must have missed the "Feel sorry for me or I'll terrorize & murder other people" phase of MY adolescence! In fact, IDK anyone who ever went through that "phase". Apparently YOU did. I'm glad you "grew out" of your murderous phase!
I've heard a story where a 26-year-old SON OF A CHILD PSYCHOLOGIST RAPED A WOMAN... and you blame HER for not noticing anything weird? it's not as easy as it seems.
also stop blaming someone for crimes they didn't commit and things they couldn't predict.
horrible, accusatory interview.
being a terrible parent is a crime committed on a kid.
Hmmm......raping a woman versus plotting guerrilla warfare at your school. Yeah...not much of a logistical difference there (sarcasm).
+Roguemember both are equally horrible
That is because people are not looking for the monster in their loved ones. It takes people by surprise because they aren't seeking the obvious signs. If you have a dysfunctional kid and you believe he is just being a butthurt teenage when in fact he is suicidal and is plotting to shoot a bunch of people with him. This is the same thing that happens when people fall in love with abusers. They are in denial and are not looking for the darker aspects.
She wasnt a terrible parent....and even if she has beaten him...lots of kids who get beaten and raped by their parents dont become killers
the kid was disturbed...probably since birth....there is nothing she could have done
You could raise your kid as good as u want but it comes down to the kids’ choices of how they are going to lead their life
For Eric it was about the killing and for Dylan it was about the suicide
@From the Futon suicidal people are easily persuaded bc of their mental state. Their perception is already warped.
@From the Futon yeah too bad
The Hooded Claw Yeah. I know being suicidal can make you do irrational things, I’ve been there, but never have I wanted to take people out with me. Dylan could have done it more because he just wanted to die, but there was clearly something else there. Not to mention the whole thing took a lot of planning, which doesn’t really mesh with an impulsive suicidal decision.
@@Charizarzar forsure something fishy asf with the groundwork and their mental states before and during the massacre, also i have been there in that state of mind, but the thing most people don't seem to understand is that there's levels of misery and despair to falling into depression. Im not making excuses for anything but its intriguing and should be studied on more.
@The Hooded Claw those always seem to be the motive but there's always something bigger than itself down below, that we have no clue about, its fair to say on neutral ground that killing the random is pretty horrific but why a person goes and does it, is something we all don't understand, even myself. I Believe its a selfish act of taking a generalized group down with you (like society or a certain group) maybe for no reason at all, just bc you suffered and believe others should too. Again they did horrible things but we never ask what actually drives a person there.
I have so much respect for Sue, I have never seen Eric’s parents ever publicly speak on this event
That alone show us she is genuine.
please for god's sake someone interview with one of Eric's parents.
@@jewwhovotedfornaziparty yeah I have a lot of questions. We are have
@@jewwhovotedfornaziparty I doubt his parents ever will. They were told time and again their son wasn't acting right. His former friend Brooks Brown, Eric Harris had vocally and written that he wanted to kill Brooks because he had threw snowballs and cracked Brooks windshield and left his backpack at the car, Brooks parents took the backpack and caught Eric as he was walking home told him to meet them at his house so they could talk to his parents and he blew up not at his parents finding out he broke a windshield but because he wanted his backpack. His dad sent him up to Brooks house to apologize and Brooks mom told him she didn't buy his act and he got pissed. Eric Harris wanted him dead in the school shooting because Brooks was supposed to pick him up for school a few weeks before the shooting and over slept and that was it for Eric Harris it was unforgivable. There were reports to the police about weapons and pipe bombs and the cops had drawn up a search warrant but do to some murders it never got signed and was put on the back burner and forgotten about. Brooks told police on the day of the shooting before they went in to the school that one of the shooters was Eric Harris. Dylan told Brooks that Eric was making threats against him which is how he knew to keep his distance. But Eric's parents were told he wasn't right mentally. Dylan was a follower and suffering from depression and other stuff found acceptance from Eric Harris and it was a deadly combination.
Can't blame them I wouldn't want to. You know they cried watching the tapes. Eric himself said that he feels bad for his parents who are loving cause this will kill them. Most school shooter parents don't speak out. What could you possibly say? You've lost a child and they're a killer. There's no winning.
These questions Diane asked are absolutely ridiculous. Who wrote them???
she claims there’s no way to know when someone might do something as terrible as what her son did, and then goes on to explain in her own book exactly what created her son’s issues by explaining her own bad parenting get this woman off any stage anywhere ever.💀
When Sue broke down and said "he was so sweet" I couldn't help but cry with her. Dylan really did seem like such a sweet guy who ended up handling his problems in the worst way.
★ Froggie Animation ★ I’m sorry did we read different comments?
Where did she say that she loved him? She wasn’t defending him, she was being compassionate towards his mother I think
@★ Froggie Animation ★ Where did she say she loved him? wtf
It's not the mothers fault. She was clearly a good mother, it's the kids fault, not hers
nah
the jocks got what they deserved, although they should have not killed any innocent students.
@Cats Rule "She was clearly a good mother"
you don't know that. If she were, her son would not kill 10+people.
The only mistake of them was killing innocent students...the jocks deserved it tho
MegaNekon he didnt kill people cause of bad parenting, he killed people cause he was bullied and principals did nothing about it. Jocks would be beating up their girlfriends in front of the teachers and they would do nothing about it
The mothers day thing is so heartbreaking
that's how she wants you to feel. don't buy this bitches lies.
SHE IS RESPONSIBLE for the outcome of her child. A kid doesn't write this stuff in a journal without going through serious abuse at home.
PERIOD!
who cares You are just plain stupid
@@Mista808 "PERIOD" SHUT YOUR CITY GIRL ASS UP
Shut y’all asses up for real 😒 she is not lying this is her and her kid they are talking about idiots ofc she’s gonna throw some special events in there and that her kid can’t be w her anymore. Stop blaming her for this shit it’s not her fault its bitches like you who make her feel like shit m, maybe you should use that uno reverse card on yourselves🙄😒
Morgan White you are so pretty
I feel so sad for her and her family! 😢 must be hard. We love our children unconditionally! God bless her
When she said: "He was so sweet" i started crying a lot and..
For a murderer?
Mother's be like "My son didn't do shit!" (L.O.L.!)
freakyfornash she said he WAS so sweet. Obviously she’s heartbroken by what her son did and is probably devastated her child killed other people including himself
@@emilytsuge447 And she had it far more tough than the parents of the other kids did who died. It's not like she didn't lose a child either, and was all the more worse when her own son was one of the violent murders for that matter too.
all kids are sweet until they enter public school
I'd like to see what Eric Harris's family has to say
Ashlee Johnson his idiot dad will probably defend him
@AlexanderTheNotSoGreat I don't really recall if they did. I can see why though. I mean it's not easy to explain why you didn't know your teenager was was making bombs in the garage, hiding guns and ammunition in his bedroom, and acting out to the point of the neighbors calling the police on him.
His father called 911 during the shooting immediately concerned that Eric would be involved.
Why?
Dave Carsley If you’re addressing me, it’s because he knew his son was a member of suspect groups and hadn’t spoken to him.
Can I just say this woman is gorgeous??!! She is so beautiful and so, is her heart, and she has become such a strong person since that horrible event she had to endure, which must’ve been so painful, especially about her son.
I've come to respect her. This poor woman has to carry the burden that her son caused, for the rest of her life...
J F I strongly agree with you
I feel sorry for her. She has to go on the rest of her life, apologizing for what her son did.
She is stunning. Inside and out 🌹
I see where her sons got the looks from wow
Diane Sawyer is clueless. My son suffered from depression at an early age for years. We took him to the therapist week after week and hospitalized twice. He was on just about every antidepressant. It was like walking on eggshells for years. My son lost his life at age 26. I feel for this mother. Not only did she lose her son, but having to accept what he had done. She didn't deserve to be blamed.
She’s honestly a really good mom, you can’t really control these things tbh. I pray for her.❤️🙏🏼
When i was a teenager i used to think Dylan's parents had some of the fault for what happened. But watching her interviews now, with a more mature mind, i feel so much empathy and compassion for this woman, i can only imagine how much suffering she endured after this tragedy.
Looking back at my own teenage years, i remember i used to hide feelings from my mother too, it's not her fault.
This is why you check your kids room
@@jennyoneill8879 you are a cancer to your children if you do this.
I'm feel just like you. It's not her fault. The whole thing is just a tragedy.
I watched her Ted Talk. She said she suffered breast cancer, panic attacks and chronic depression from perpetual grief not only of her son, Dylan; but all the lives Dylan took.
Your first instinct was a good one. She feels like an anomaly for school shooters. Most parents are like that pos Eric Harris abusive dad
These interview people are so cruel and emotionless, at least have some respect instead of asking questions such as " could you of prevented what happened at columbine" , obviously SHE COULDN'T , SHE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
@From the Futon that really doesn't make the interviewer right in any sense or form. If you want an accurate statement of truth, then your questions should have no form of bias
Her book was one of the best I ever read. She is a really great writing ❤️
It’s not fair to blame his Mother. In some cases the parents are to blame, but she was a loving mother, who was little more than naive, like so many mothers. She was unlucky that her son suffered from such severe mental illness.
women suffer from mental illness and don't go shooting up schools... next excuse?
WHAT are you talking about? Idiot. @Sabrina Dugan
Josh G Sounds like you've got some victim mentality going on there
@Sabrina Dugan Very true!
Sabrina Dugan your comments are absolutely disgusting
Dylan Klebold almost certainly would not have done what he did and would have still been alive today had he never met Eric Harris.
It would’ve still happened wether he met him or not.
@@wildwilly7466 Highly doubtful
Still doesn’t change it would of happened anyway since they were literally in the same classes in Middle School.
Dylan wanted to go through with "NBK" anyway (shooting up the school) but he actually planned to do it with a girl instead, Eric was just the next best thing to him
+@From the Futon Maybe because the other guys weren't Dylan with the same mental health?
Is it too complicated for you to understand?
I encourage everyone to read her book that she wrote. Really good and clears up a lot of misconceptions of Columbine.
Night Owl Very much so. But it’s not an easy read
Whts it called
What is the title of her book? Does anyone know the title of the book I think Rachel's mom wrote about Rachel too? Thank you.
For those asking, the book is called "A Mother's Reckoning: living in the aftermath of tragedy" I also want to point out that people need to research stuff before they comment on things. If you read her book you would know that she gets NONE of the money she brings in from her books, it goes back in to her work and organization to help others.. Her goal in life is to prevent this and bring attention to people that have a mental illness and how parents can watch for signs and for people to try and get help.
This woman is a narcissist who refuses any responsibility for her role in his failed upbringing.
You need to look up miorby
I think you are completely wrong and have no right to judge her unless you are perfect and have no made any mistakes. She did what she could for her son . He was raised in a loving home and was given the best chance at life . He was raised in a great neighborhood with parents that did their best for him . He wasn’t abused or mistreated . She did what she could with what she knew at the time . She didn’t know about those journals. She didn’t know about the videos . She didn’t know how much hate and pain he felt . She didn’t know he had guns or bombs . She didn’t know because he hid those things . It’s so easy to judge her saying she should have known but you have no idea what it was like because you weren’t there and you haven’t been in that situation. No parent is perfect . No parent is mistake free . Stop blaming his mother for his actions . She is not to blame he is .
This is the saddest. I can't imagine. I so wish he had talked to someone. I think his mom would have helped him immensely.
it isnt her fault. there was very little implication that he was going to do what he did.
Dylan made a "love" list whilst Eric made a "hate" list.
Edit: it doesnt make one love less or hate more. Maybe love was more significant to Dylan and hate more important for Eric.
That’s why I think with proper psychiatric help and getting him the HELL away from Eric, maybe Dylan’s role in this could’ve been prevented. Eric seemed way past any redemption. He got counseling and would just lie to the psychologist.
Sorry for the late reply but they both had "Shitlists", writing down who they wanted gone.
@@cassybowie2894 did their lists become victims ? It seems they just wanna kill people at their school, like not necessary because of revenge or something. Other student who survived at the time said that they treated the students/victims like game before killed them. I don't understand people said they did this shooting because their schoolmates bullied them, but just look at the victims, many of them were not even like famous students/ the people who mocked/bullied them. Why would they went straight to the library tho, not to the places when the students who bullied them like to hanging out like in school cafeteria / gyms/even class.
@@KimAhrina11 cause they wanted to bomb the school then shoot survivors and police etc but their bombing failed so they just shot inside
@@KimAhrina11 The only one that was on the hit list among the killed/injured was Austin Eubanks. There are also some people that are only described, but they could not be identified as there was no name or there was insufficient information to identify those people.
Most parents write off their teenager's issues as a phase. Anyone of them could become a killer without the parents doing anything differently.
Yes,parenting did not cause this amount of mental illness. Both boys had a happy childhood. They lived in a gorgeous area in a two parent home with friends and pets.
Yes, and every parent has made some mistake with their child. Dylan had a home in a gorgeous location,both parents in the home but mental illness struck anyway.He was smart enough to hide it well.
unless the parent was a Handler and talk to her children to disassociate from birth and to turn them into a MK Ultra mind control mind-control slave and then she called her son her shiny penny and that's used in terminologies in mind control by the Handler they get their victim to go and kill people and then take their own
Sometimes making a good impact is as fucking simple as learning how (aside from been a parental figure) how tobe a friend to your child, it will do wonders for them to be more open, if you just limit yourself to the minimun requirements of telling them how only you know better and for them to be obedient or else or focus on the consecuences, then it will breed nothing good... no matter how much phisical abundance you have, if there is no social conection with the children it will never end good.
We can't fix this, Sue didn't make a killer, we all have pain inside and we can be laughing at a film or a clip on UA-cam, wander off to grab a drink and feel like our life is an unhappy heap. Then go back to our friends and keep on being the You everyone knows. No one knows how someone really feels if they're brave or private or ashamed of how they feel when there are so many people worse off in the world. Two lives, the public and the private. Usually the public one wins and we make it out into the world as "ordinary people" (never feeling very ordinary) but sometimes the other one wins and they self destruct, and occasionally they take people with them.
I was one that didn’t have many friends and didn’t care to go out really. I hated high school. My dad passed away my freshman year and all of my grandparents passed my senior year. The friends I once had betrayed me. However, I never had any desire to hurt myself nor others. I was in 8th grade during the Columbine shooting and I was hurting for the victims. I cared about others. Not every teen that is a loner is a bad person. It helps to recognize what they are going through too.
Oh dear!
You went thru hard moments in your youth.
Hope you are doing great!
When that woman asked her if the
mum could of prevented it. Pissed me off because the mum did nothing wrong.
It definitely wasn’t the moms fault she seems like such a caring person
Except when she did like parents normally love to do... Instead of what's up with you they love to take the authority and throw the moral book at you. Generally speaking, as a parent if you seem to always be instructing, and not rooting for your child, that's a recipe for trouble. Especially in teenage years, they need to know they are part of a team, useful and they matter. They should never have free reign and lots of space before touching base with what's going on in their heart and being accountable.
I do not judge her now, being a mum having to live with this would be so horrible and she is at least trying to make the world better now by being vulnerable.
It was probably Eric's manipulation. It made it easier for Eric to do so because Dylan was so fragile.
@NA her book says otherwise
She did nothing wrong. Maybe if the jocks's culture at Columbine wasn't that aggressive, it wouldn't result into two seniors committing mass murder then taking their own lives. I blame the bullying
I wish there was a comment stating that mental illness is a large part of the picture here. A person with a psychopathic personality disorder isn’t responsible for their disease. They are a sick person. I have multiple sclerosis and epilepsy neither of which have a known cause. I can’t control when I have a seizure bc medicines aren’t always effective. I do hope I’m not looked upon as being responsible for my diseases and I wish this could be true for these boys too. It was a tragic chain of events that caused the tragic results at Columbine HS. Not poor parenting.
Poor woman suffered enough. No one should say anything about her that's mean.
So has the victims … they are dead.
@@a.m7510 "they are dead" their suffering ended living people suffering continues
@@a.m7510 and that’s Sue’s fault?
@@a.m7510 tell me you’re ⚫️ without telling me you’re ⚫️
@@autmiah7574 goodbye, if the shoe was on the other foot you’d feel the same.
I am so so so blessed that I wasn’t in the school at the time of the shooting, I was just over 15 and I got a fever which prevented me from going to school. I only found out about what happened that day when I was watching the news and saw that my girlfriend was shot and so was my best friend. After that, I entered a deep state of depression, I couldn’t think straight. I couldn’t comprehend the thought that the 2 people that I loved so dearly were truly gone. Also, Eric and Dylan (I think that’s how you spelled his name) we’re extremely “odd” and quiet kids at the time, but I never EVER expected them to do something so, so hurtful and thoughtless. I truly am sorry to all families that may have had their loved ones injured or killed during any school shooting, and I hope that something like columbine never happens again..
The fact that he made a list of people he loved that he believed would never love him back is so sad
It's heart wrenching.
I remember when someone said that rachel scott was on the list that people he loved but it was never confirmed but people suspected since they saw an “R” scratch the other names idk because their completely scratch
And I think that's what would've drove him to this...
@@kdjoshi726 nah. Nobody's love is reciprocated every time. School shooters are weaklings that never learned coping skills
Imagine being a semi-affluent white woman in the 90s with a cis het white boy and not managing to raise your son beyond "no one loves me back". What a failure of a mother.
'Could you have prevented the Columbine shooting?' 😒 I mean really
That is the stupidest question ever! Diane Sawyer also has a facial expression that makes her look as though she has an awful smell under her nose.
@@michaellovely6601 Her facial expressions clearly suggest she blames the mother
Ikr...she put all that weight on the mothers shoulders "just like that"..Smh. Let's not 4get It wasnt just dylan, there's Eric as well so even If she did prevent her own son who is to say Eric wouldnt have still went thru with things.
I feel so bad for you sue Klebold... Your strength is inspiring
If only she could have taken her strong ass to see about her bad ass kid, maybe this could have been prevented 😂
in my opinion it’s Eric’s fault for all of this, he dragged Dylan into this but that doesn’t mean Dylan is innocent
Well it was actually dylan idea to shoot the school but i think it would’ve been better if they never met they both suffered from mental illness and since they both did they as friend brainstorm a tragedy that could’ve been prevented but theirs no excuse to their actions
@@Breh3543 I didn’t know that, I was always told that it Eric’s idea but anyway thanks for the info
GEEDBIN YE another fact is that dylan wanted a girl to do it with him but i guess at the end everything turn out the way it is