So if the "popular" depiction of hell is Dante's hell, then what's the actual, biblical hell supposed to be? Edit: Also, if Lucifer is chilling in the middle of hell with dudes stuffed in his mouth, is he not actually the "Lord of Hell"? Who's calling the shots in hell? The demon with the tail that wraps around you?
@@Serttok I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, or anything more than a lapsed Catholic, but from what I can remember the only actual description of hell mentions flames and "gnashing of teeth" and I can't remember if it's canon but I recall somebody mentioned the waste dump outside Jerusalem. By that I mean it's alluded to as an allegory rather than exact coordinates XD About the Lucifer stuff I think he was supposed to be the literal Lord of Hell, as in he had dominion of hell and all those in it. But there's some non canonical bibles that might go into more detail.
@@Serttok even the notion that we have of Satan/the devil/Lucifer is not that consistent and clear throughout the Bible. But the Bible refers to God as "the one who can destroy both soul and body in hell" and says the devil (evil one) and his angels will be thrown into a lake of fire. It's different in the old testament though, where they mostly just refer to sheol, the grave. But yeah, new testament descriptions of "where the bad people go," if you will, are something like, "darkness, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Revelation is another story, and too confusing for me or most people to handle.) At some point, it became popular to think of hell as just being utterly cut off from God. Since God is goodness/ the source of all goodness, this means all you need for hell is to have none of him. Another idea is that there is no hell, that souls that don't spend eternity with God are just annihilated. Probably my favorite definition of hell is the one that says hell is actually just experiencing God's unveiled love, goodness, presence, etc, while knowing that you rejected him in life. That that produces such anguish in you, once you know how great his love is. I kind of like the idea that the revelation (granted understanding) of God's incredible nature is strong enough to make hell out of ultimate goodness, simply because you're a crooked person. Still sucks, though. This is sometimes combined with the idea that people come around eventually, through varying levels of being realigned to love God based on how bent/misaligned with God they were before. When people believe that everyone God ever created will necessarily, eventually be brought to reconciliation with God through this, that's one version of PUR, purgatorial universal reconciliation. It's sort of what I believed right before I stopped believing.
Dante: "These poor Ethiopians, who have never even heard of Jesus!" Ethiopia, second oldest Christian nation on Earth after Armenia: "Am I a joke to you?"
To be fair, Ethiopia was not a nation of a people at the time but referred to all peoples south of the Sahara. The word Ethiopia is derived from a greek term meaning "Burnt faces". If Dante was to speak about what we know as Ethiopia today he most likely would have referred to Abyssinia or Axum, although I'm not sure what was the norm at the time.
@@zvidanyatvetski8081 It actually was the Empire of Ethiopia by that point, though Abyssinia was a common exonym. (Aksum/Axum hadn't been used for a long while, since that more properly referred to the Classical era state that was conquered by a different Ethiopian faction in 960 CE.)
@@Kokai-jg2ol they were Orthodox, though. Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, specifically. They weren't some weird offshoot branch; they were one of the original denominations of Christianity. See again: second oldest Christian nation on earth after Armenia.
@@amehak1922 it comes from being a bit of a history nerd. The Aksumite Empire and later Abyssinia and Ethiopia were really important players in both Classical and medieval history, and I think it's a damn shame that so few people seem to know about that fact.
LOL! That would add a whole new level of context that you have the neighbor from Hell. If the neighbors ever call the police on him and say that, when the officer scoffs, they can say, hey, I have PIC's! Here’s proof! 👺
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Imagine writing a fanfiction so popular that the language it was written in became the Lingua Franca of the Italian Peninsula. He technically didn't write it in Italian; he wrote in in Tuscan. After Italy became a country, they chose Tuscan, Dante's language, as the official language of their nation, and it spread from there.
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The most impressive thing about his work, or at least to me, is that it's ALL in a fixed rhyme scheme, and every single verse is made up of 11 syllables. Its truly impressive to stay consistent for 3 books
Some of the "music" used in very old video games would also make an eternity of listening quite Hellish! I still play some of them, but with the "music" turned off.
Dante liked the number 9 because he understood how Hebrew numbers work. 3 and 7 are considered to be the perfect numbers in Hebrew, as both consist of a beginning, a middle, and an end. 9 is like a perfect multiple of 3, given that it is three 3s put together, thus having a beginning a middle and an end. That's why Dante used 9. On another note, the number 6 is considered evil, because it doesn't have a middle, but it made up of two 3s or perfect numbers. The reason 666 is used to describe Satan is that it is 3 of these evil numbers put together, thus symbolizing that he is perfect in his evil-ness. Kind of crazy when you get to know what all the numbers represent. Symbolism is a big deal in ancient Judaism and Christianity.
@@nullnull7089 No, the Bibke is not Fanfic of the Torsah. The Torah is actually part of the Bible.Why do peopel thing he TOrah is a separate book all together?
Why? I'd trade my Canadian passport any day to live there... Why? The sweet gun laws and endless feral pig hunting with my compound bow.. Sounds sweet to me.. I don't mind winter at all and love snowmobiling and x country skiing.. Not sure how I'd deal with the heat tho..
I remember when I was 6, I used to believe that Limbo was just like those Canadian tire waiting rooms, filled with people reading magazines or newspapers for a long bloody time
That’s the depiction they used in Being Human (at least the original one, not sure about the American one). You wait around for hours reading magazines about nothing, waiting for your number to get called. Eventually after someone leads you down a long corridor, you’re shown to a slightly different but basically identical waiting room and given another number. Ad infinitum
I was just thinking then that anyone who recognizes the stand-in model is definitely going to the more interesting segments of the lust-decibel curve, lol.
Not necessarily. He depicted the River Styx more like a giant swamp, to represent how people “stew” in their own anger as it destroys them. One guy tries to get on the ship and Dante beats him off of it, which Virgil approves of
Strictly speaking, when Dante wrote the DC Italian did not really exist. He wrote the DC using the language spoken in Florence. His work helped establishing Tuscan as the national language of Italy, and it was formally adopted when Italy was unified in 1861.
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Florence's language can be called Italian, in fact the Divine Comedy is studied in Italian schools and the difference is extremely minimal especially when spoken. The real major difference is just found in the word used, as some of them either are not used anymore or are not commonly used.
A. N. Shia started because they believed Ali should be caliph (And should be a dynasty), and there would be only 7. Hussein is supposed to be the final and start the apocalypse.
@@jakobbauz I mean, not officially, but a good deal of Catholic art from the 14th century onward takes inspiration in some way or an another from Dante's work to represent Hell. There were representations before, of course, but it left a mark on later works of art.
Knowing Better, the Lustful are not “Blown over.” The wind actually blows them off of their feet and they “fly” with the wind. Also, the gluttonous don’t eat the slush....Cerberus did. They’re just kinda forced to lay down in the stinky mud while Cerberus claws and nips at them. The first bolgia is for panders and seducers, you got that part right, you just mixed up the punishment. You see, the bolgia are like moats connected by bridges...Dante and Virgil have to go to the midpoint of the bridge to view the punishment. What they see is two files of sinners, one file coming toward them and the other running in the way they’re facing. As they walk, they are being lashed by horned demons (in ancient times, people believed that if you cheated, you grew horns on your head.) As they goaded others in life, they are now being goaded in death. Finally, remember that Lucifer is a perversion, a mockery of all God is. The three faces on one body mimic the Trinity, but are actually the polar opposites of the qualities described on the Gates of Hell (Divine Omnipotence-Extreme Helplessness, Supreme Intelligence-Deepest Ignorance, First Love-Ultimate Hatred.) A few minor things...all the dead in Hell have knowledge of the far future on Earth (one of the gluttons proved this when he gave Dante a prophecy), but they don’t know anything of present time. A soul actually believed his son was dead because of Dante’s confusion about the topic. Medusa did not appear to Dante, but three furies called for her. In the fifth circle, there is another group of sinners under the Styx’s mud, the sullen, or the people who internalized their anger. As they choked on their anger in life, now they choke on the black mud of the Styx. Last two things....what Dante calls “art” is really human industry.. The argument is that humans, by their nature, work for God...all they do is to exalt God. Therefore, their labor is dedicated to God, in a way. However, moneylending is not proper....with moneylending there is no labor involved...thus, it’s sinful. Also, the sinners in the third region of Cocytus aren’t on top of the ice (the poet is clear that the wind freezes things pretty quickly.) Rather, they are lying supine with their faces up. Since they’re eternally weeping, the wind freezes their tears and makes it look like they have crystal visors on. One last thing, the last zone in Hell is not for those traitorous to God specifically, but just traitorous to their lords.
Andrew Ollmann That Last point cleared a lot up for me because I was confused on how Brutus and Cassius betrayed God. When you write it was betrayers to their lords that certainly clears things for me. Thanks
In a way I like CGP Gray, I really enjoy a lot of the content. But I find every word that comes out of Grey's mouth to be filled with the most unbearably flagrant pomposity, that I can't help but roll my eyes through every single video.
Excommunication is were someone is kicked out of the Church, as a punishment by the church for breach of Church discipline, It does not forbid the excommunicate one form repenting and being saved. the whole We’ve decided that you’re not going to Heaven, and we’ve told God about our decision.” is bad theology and a misunderstanding of what Excommunication is in that it forgets God is Sovereign. The idea that you have posted would require God to go back on so many of his promises that would be totally against God's character so that it would be impossible for that to happen. God has said I will never leave or forsake you, In just about each book of the bible, and Jesus has said "I will never lose any you have given me, but one", and "None can shance any one form my hand." So the weight of the evidence in the bible is this understanding of Excommunication is not correct.
@@Delgen1951 from Wikipedia "In first Christian centuries excommunication was not regarded as a simple external measure; it touched the soul and the conscience. It was not merely the severing of the outward bond which holds individual to their place in the Church; it severed also the internal bond, and the sentence pronounced on earth was understood to be ratified in heaven." So, while not accurate now, it once was accurate. And the fact you can beg and plead to have them ask god to forgive you doesn't change the fact they effectively told god what they decided.
What James Williston said: the description in the video is not how excommunication is supposed to be used, but it was historically abused like this. I have no qualms about kicking unrepentant “Christians” out of the Church, as not doing so sends a message that repentance isn’t important.
It's worth pointing out that every, and I mean EVERY, single line of text in the Divine Comedy has a second, third and fourth hidden meaning and message to it. All of that while also following a perfect rhyme scheme. So proud of my boy Dante (or Durante).
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28:10 Ethiopians actually have had a strong Christian tradition for centuries that evolved separately from European Christianity. They even tried to leverage it against European colonizers when they began to carve up Africa. Also, they have really cool churches that have been entirely cut from stone.
It's possible Dante didn't recognize them bc they were Orthodox. I mean, his beloved Crusades sacked the Orthodox Christian city of Constantinople, so...
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Brutus: “I will be remembered along with my friend Cassius as the last of the virtuous Romans” Dante: puts both Cassius and Brutus in the centre most place of hell while Satan chews on them for eternity
@@Palladiosios yes, but when rome conquered north africa they even meet some black african which they called them ifrikkan. Africa name came from irrikkan.
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Knowing Better: The River Styx is probably the only river from Greek mythology you know Me who's favorite book is House of Hades: I possess a knowledge greater than most
@@tamikras9927 very much so, but I can understand why, being that it's a work of fiction based on ancient fiction. So it's only inaccurate in comparison to it's fictional source material
Very good job! The Divine Comedy is the book I studied the most in my life, for over 20 years every day, it is extremely complicated, and it is not easy to find a summary as well done as yours in English. There are some minor imprecisions though, let's name just a few: - Minos circles his tail around himself, not around the soul of the damned, in order to indicate where the convicted has to be incarcerated. - Pier delle Vigne, among suicides, is not a Florentine, he was from Capua (Naples) and was accused of having betrayed Frederick the Second Emperor, probably the most influential political figure of all Middle Ages. - Ulysses is burning together with Diomedes. - In Purgatory, among choleric souls, Dante speaks to the Venetian Marco Lombardo, pretty interesting, and in the sloth terrace to Gherardo II, abbot of San Zeno, who blames the costume of nepotism. - Virgil cannot, but Statius provides the solution to the riddle of how a soul can starve, and it is one of the most delusional and magnificent passages of the whole book. - A deeper respect for the figure of Beatrice is due, I am sorry. Ok, I do not want to be too pedantic. Thank you for the excellent piece.
Well, I am not a professional, by any mean; it is just my hobby. Professionals are called "Dantists", they are philologists and mostly work in Universities; I just want to have fun and I focus only on the topics I am interested in. Of course, after so much time, I accumulated certain knowledge. I know it could appear a nerdy waste of time, but on the other hand, I do not play videogames, for example, and I know nothing about sports. I just happen to like history and old Italian. It is a great book, and it is translated very well in English, give it a try, but I warn you, it is pretty addictive.
Ah, no, no, not at all! I was just giving an explanation because I know that it may sound bizarre. And even if I did not know about that joke on The Onion I considered your comment really funny. I am happy to know you read the entire book, it is old and detached from our way of understanding reality, that's also why accuracy and time are much needed to get somewhere. Dante was a visionary, I still struggle to picture how one man alone could imagine as many things as he did.
I always get this weird feeling when I hear somebody put "Kalinka" as background music for a video but then remember it's just "The Tetris theme" to most people...
Adam and Eve: Goes against God and brings sin and death to all of humanity and the world, but ends up in Heaven. Satan: Goes against God and only convinced one third of angels to follow him (33%), ends up frozen in the darkest and coldest part of hell.
Well, Adam and Eve didn't know the difference between good and evil before eating the fruit...though that just raises the question of how a being of infinite justice can see it right to punnish a couple of humans with the ethical understanding of infants (along with all of their descendents, who did nothing wrong) for eating something he put right in the middle of what amounts to their playpen. Oh, and need I mention that Yahweh is omniscient, so would have known that they would eat from the tree. The divine comedy still makes more sense ethically than the book is was based on.
@@dynamicworlds1 No, it doesnt raise those questions. Good and Evil are not synonyms for Right and Wrong, and they did know what they did was wrong. And they weren't babies. THe idea that the Tree Of The Knowledge Of Good And evil made them have general knowledge is not really supportable. Also, didn't the Early Church, and the Rabbis for that matter, view the whole thing as Allegorical? Origen, who was quiet influential in Medieval Theology, wrote in the 2nd Century AD that this is a shadow of a Spiritual event. The coats of flesh Adam and Eve got from God? Those are the physical bodies we now have. The whole Eden thing was set in a Spirit World we can't really understand now and is set in an allegorical fashion.
The difference, in terms of Classical Christianity like Dante, is Adam repented and Satan did not. Besides, Adam didn't go to Heaven till after the Harrowing Of Hell, so he went to Hell first. With that said, many Christians, and Jews generally, see Satan as less God's adversary, and more as God's prosecuting attorney here to make sure we Truly Love God. Its less that he's Evil and more than tempting us is his job.
One thing I should point out. Dante did NOT write this book in Italian. At this point, Latin had broken up into differing dialects that were spoken throughout Italy, and the Divine Comedy was written in the Florentine dialect. He did so in order that people in Florence who didn't know Latin could read his work. However, the poem was so popular that it was copied and spread throughout the Italian peninsula and people far from Florence learned this dialect to read this work. When Dante wrote the Divine Comedy, the language he was writing wasn't Italian, but as a result of him, it BECAME Italian. That's why Italians call Dante the "father of the Italian language."
Fun fact, a Jewish person a little after Dante made his own version of hell, and in that version Jesus Christ is forever boiling in a vat of shit for falsely claiming to be the Messiah.
Oh! So that story is true huh?! Haha. Good. I watched a Jewish rabbi say that here on YT and I was laughing my ass off upon hearing it. He said it this way: "The founder of Christianity is currently being boiled in feces." 😂😂😂💩
Judaism: jesus sucks and is blasphemous Christianity: jesus is god and died for our sins islam: jesus is a very noble prophet, a great man, the greatest prophet before Mohammad
That's kind of a stretch to say it's entirely possible Dante inspired Martin Luther. Disgust with the Church's hypocrisy was well established and often recorded prior to Dante. John Wycliffe was likely a much bigger influence on Martin Luther than Dante.
I literally had to read this book over the summer before my freshman year of high school! When my teacher told me it was a college level book on the first day of class, I literally wanted to riot! As an adult, I'm actually thankful I read it because now I... know better 😉
Thank you! I'm glad you are teaching that "Immaculate Conception" isn't the same as the "Virgin Birth". I think that people's confusion over these two dogmas leads to other significant difficulties in understanding by so many people. It's frustrating, since when people are told about this, they sometimes think their faith is being challenged, rather than simply a nuance of dogma being addressed.
Tomorrow i have test paper from this poem. I cannot believe it. You posted this after some minutes I read some things about The Divine Comedy. Is faith. I am in shook.
Trust me it all sucks and its useless. I use about 10% of what I learned in school in my life and I find only about 40% you learn useful. XD For examply I cant write without typos and serious grammar mistakes, but I know how to pick sentece apart and say what is verb what that verb ties to etc.. or what is aposiopeze in language etc... Of course in my native longuege not english.
@@bighiu-tofanchris717 Most of it is garbage. :) You learn those things just to have your childhood destroyed and then when you are older and you could change something you cant because now you have to work.
I’m halfway through this video and I’ve been listening via a Bluetooth headset. I had a good laugh out loud when i opened up UA-cam to see knowing better masked as satan. You’re a good man.
Yep. The thing is in Dante's time Mohammed was believed to have been a Christian bishop that at some point became heretic, founding Islam. In the medieval view it wasn't a separate religion, but an heretic offshoot of Christianity. That's why he put him there.
@@m3rl1on If one thinks about it, it sort of makes sense. The centuries before and around the founding of Islam were full of heresies coming from schismatic churches/patriarchs in the Orient (nestorianism, arianism, monophysitism, you name it). Given the general murkiness around those matters, it is not surprising that they thought it was the same deal with Mohammed.
I suspect Wrath, Lust, Gluttony, and Pride. I think we all agree on Lust. I bet, like most people he regrets some past short temperedness and present ill-patience. Wrath. I bet he feels he may, or may have in the past, consumed too much alcohol and food. Anyone who thinks their opinions or research are worth putting on youtube for other people to watch and listen to have some level of pride. I'm sure he's cognizant of that.
Honestly Dante's Heaven is way more interesting then his Hell. I'd like a movie about that: journeying through space, seeing historical and mythical figures. Sounds awesome.
Ethiopia knew about Christianity long before most of Europe did. Currently over half is Christian( most Ethiopian Orthodox). From Wikipedia: According to its tradition, the Coptic Church was established by Saint Mark, an apostle and evangelist, during the middle of the 1st century (c. AD 42).
yeah but at that point in time Ethiopia had been almost completely cut off from the rest of the Christian world for nearly 600 years so they had no knowledge of weather or not the people in Ethiopia still knew of Christ at the time and this uncertainty about the status of places like Ethiopia and the Assyrian Church in Iraq but hope of their continued existence ultimately led to the Prestor John legend so the interpretation largely holds (also Europeans tended to refer to all of sub-saharan Africa as Ethiopia including non-Christian and even undiscovered areas so again largely holds)
@@missfashionator For one he says that Mary is the only person to be born without sin, which is untrue because Jesus was also born without sin. He also says that Dante thought the earth was "the center of the universe instead of the Sun" which implies that the Sun is the center of the universe. It's only the center of the solar system, not even the galaxy, let alone the entire universe.
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this entire time I was thinking about someone just speedrunning from the circles of hell to the layers of heaven, doing tasks and running through punishments
@@JMM33RanMA I am not an Evangelical but you misrepresent them. Not only do Evangelicals not claim 100% o the Bible is Literal, if they did then Parables are Literal and there are no figures of speech, which is more what Militant Atheists do than Evangelicals, but they don't really reject Job. I've seen Evangelical sermons on Job. I also do't Think Evangelicals are as hateful as you or many others say.
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Judas got 30 pieces of silver. Whoops.
Ulysses is the Roman version of Odysseus' name, similar to Mars/Ares or Neptune/Poseidon.
Hey Knowing Better, Aries is the zodiac sign, Ares is the god.
Great soundtrack. Korobeiniki, I presume?
So if the "popular" depiction of hell is Dante's hell, then what's the actual, biblical hell supposed to be?
Edit: Also, if Lucifer is chilling in the middle of hell with dudes stuffed in his mouth, is he not actually the "Lord of Hell"? Who's calling the shots in hell? The demon with the tail that wraps around you?
@@Serttok I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, or anything more than a lapsed Catholic, but from what I can remember the only actual description of hell mentions flames and "gnashing of teeth" and I can't remember if it's canon but I recall somebody mentioned the waste dump outside Jerusalem. By that I mean it's alluded to as an allegory rather than exact coordinates XD
About the Lucifer stuff I think he was supposed to be the literal Lord of Hell, as in he had dominion of hell and all those in it. But there's some non canonical bibles that might go into more detail.
@@Serttok even the notion that we have of Satan/the devil/Lucifer is not that consistent and clear throughout the Bible. But the Bible refers to God as "the one who can destroy both soul and body in hell" and says the devil (evil one) and his angels will be thrown into a lake of fire. It's different in the old testament though, where they mostly just refer to sheol, the grave. But yeah, new testament descriptions of "where the bad people go," if you will, are something like, "darkness, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Revelation is another story, and too confusing for me or most people to handle.) At some point, it became popular to think of hell as just being utterly cut off from God. Since God is goodness/ the source of all goodness, this means all you need for hell is to have none of him. Another idea is that there is no hell, that souls that don't spend eternity with God are just annihilated. Probably my favorite definition of hell is the one that says hell is actually just experiencing God's unveiled love, goodness, presence, etc, while knowing that you rejected him in life. That that produces such anguish in you, once you know how great his love is. I kind of like the idea that the revelation (granted understanding) of God's incredible nature is strong enough to make hell out of ultimate goodness, simply because you're a crooked person. Still sucks, though. This is sometimes combined with the idea that people come around eventually, through varying levels of being realigned to love God based on how bent/misaligned with God they were before. When people believe that everyone God ever created will necessarily, eventually be brought to reconciliation with God through this, that's one version of PUR, purgatorial universal reconciliation. It's sort of what I believed right before I stopped believing.
This was interesting as hell!
You're going to hell for your spelling and grammar.
so hell is, interesting? you like suffering???
Jesus take me with you, it'll be one hell of a trip
People have been looking for you
See you at the blasphemy ring my lord😂
Dante literally wrote biblical self-insert fan fic and it’s one of the most important pieces of literature in history
New Justice did I stutter?
The lesson: not all fanfiction is balderdash. Though it takes an expert to distinguish them. Are you one of the few, person reading this comment?
And my favorite book of all time.
Technically he was writing allegory on the "enlightenment" experience, thinky veiled in catholic framework lest he be caught by the inquisition
That said, "hangin with my bros on a nice hill and they think I'm cool and my main man Virgil is my bestie now uwu"
So they started counting Hell circles from 0, damn, Lucifer was a Computer programmer.
Exactly my thoughts lmao
*God, as God created (and rules) Hell.
This shows that people wiyh cs mayor are going to hell
Well see you there
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you probably will be joining them there
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Will I be forced to constantly pick the right memory copy routine, make all my pointers void, and use Duff's device for eternity? :P
Dante: "These poor Ethiopians, who have never even heard of Jesus!"
Ethiopia, second oldest Christian nation on Earth after Armenia: "Am I a joke to you?"
To be fair, Ethiopia was not a nation of a people at the time but referred to all peoples south of the Sahara. The word Ethiopia is derived from a greek term meaning "Burnt faces". If Dante was to speak about what we know as Ethiopia today he most likely would have referred to Abyssinia or Axum, although I'm not sure what was the norm at the time.
@@zvidanyatvetski8081 It actually was the Empire of Ethiopia by that point, though Abyssinia was a common exonym. (Aksum/Axum hadn't been used for a long while, since that more properly referred to the Classical era state that was conquered by a different Ethiopian faction in 960 CE.)
@@Kokai-jg2ol they were Orthodox, though. Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, specifically. They weren't some weird offshoot branch; they were one of the original denominations of Christianity. See again: second oldest Christian nation on earth after Armenia.
@@BewareofTarps impressive knowledge. Not many Americans know even half of that.
@@amehak1922 it comes from being a bit of a history nerd. The Aksumite Empire and later Abyssinia and Ethiopia were really important players in both Classical and medieval history, and I think it's a damn shame that so few people seem to know about that fact.
Dante visited the suicide forest before it was cool
He actually did it while it was still cool.
😂😂😂😂
I'll bet Epstein wasn't there :D
Dante was the Logan Paul of his time
Logan Paul will fit right in
Imagine being the neighbor and seeing what he's doing with no context.
LOL! That would add a whole new level of context that you have the neighbor from Hell. If the neighbors ever call the police on him and say that, when the officer scoffs, they can say, hey, I have PIC's! Here’s proof! 👺
lol
At 16:40 that’s the tetrix music as piano remix and slower
its crusade time
Therapist: Red Knowing Better is not real and cannot hurt you
Red Knowing Better:
"The city of Dis. Dis is the city of hell, and dis is a ferret, and dis is another ferret."
Beautiful.
I don't think that is correct dat was a ferret and dat was another ferret
dis nutz
Despite that, much rolling of many eyes did occur!
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about any Aspect of it, what about Holy Koolaid, Rhino, and Aron Ra?
Bet the spider mastermind is there
Imagine writing a fanfiction so popular that the language it was written in became the Lingua Franca of the Italian Peninsula. He technically didn't write it in Italian; he wrote in in Tuscan. After Italy became a country, they chose Tuscan, Dante's language, as the official language of their nation, and it spread from there.
Yeah that time Tuscan should be the capital city not rome
@@aoiminase Tuscan isn't a city broseph
@@rahmspinat lo so ma non mi viene in mente come si dice Torino in inglese
È Torino
@@aoiminase torino in inglese si dice turin
Ah Alessandro Manzoni
I should write a novel about CGP Grey guiding Knowing Better through the 9 circles of demonetization.
I'd read it
See ya in 20 :D
And it'd be a bestseller lmao
Is heaven patreon?
The third circle, historioum is for those UA-camrs who were demonetized for daring to upload a video about history, here Knowing better finds The armchair historian and Indy Neidell asking for support on Patreon.
Fun fact: a possible translation for Cerberus is "spotted"
Hades named his dog Spot.
Nah, it was a Dalmation!
@@johnalanelson I GET IT! 🙌
Kerberos is the latinised version of cerberus and is the one that means spotted
Still funny as hades
And then Mickey named his dog Pluto.
Are you an osp fan?
Saint Bernard: It really do be like that sometime
It really does.
It be @@andrewzhao444
@@akahimself7321 really sometime be it
@@devoliukas7108 Timurlane was the found of the timurid empier
Amen
The most impressive thing about his work, or at least to me, is that it's ALL in a fixed rhyme scheme, and every single verse is made up of 11 syllables. Its truly impressive to stay consistent for 3 books
Dante > Eminem
wow
A video steeped in symbolism with Tetris music for Purgatory? Yeah, alright.
Some of the "music" used in very old video games would also make an eternity of listening quite Hellish! I still play some of them, but with the "music" turned off.
wish he was using verbalese version
h
Well the korobushka dance is a round, and can be done infinitely, so long as you keep to the rhythm.
True
As a computing professional, I am thrilled to find out that hell has a 0th circle.
Now we can do math with the circles of hell!
It’s enough evidence for me to believe there’s a good chance of WiFi!
@@natasha8007 I hope anyone from hell didn’t have to watch the presidential debate
Man that makeup looks uncomfortable. Way to suffer for your craft man!
Contrapoints sends her regards...
@@StellaTerraClemens Literally this ^ 😁
I concur
@@StellaTerraClemens Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of ContraPoints previously.
Content is good. Make up is an unnecessary gimmick.
Dante liked the number 9 because he understood how Hebrew numbers work. 3 and 7 are considered to be the perfect numbers in Hebrew, as both consist of a beginning, a middle, and an end. 9 is like a perfect multiple of 3, given that it is three 3s put together, thus having a beginning a middle and an end. That's why Dante used 9.
On another note, the number 6 is considered evil, because it doesn't have a middle, but it made up of two 3s or perfect numbers. The reason 666 is used to describe Satan is that it is 3 of these evil numbers put together, thus symbolizing that he is perfect in his evil-ness. Kind of crazy when you get to know what all the numbers represent. Symbolism is a big deal in ancient Judaism and Christianity.
Basically Dante’s inferno is the most influential fanfic of all time.
King Arthur as well
The bible is fanfic of the Torah
Nah, Lil Soniq’s Sonics Ultimate Harem is pretty damn influential
@@nullnull7089 No, the Bibke is not Fanfic of the Torsah. The Torah is actually part of the Bible.Why do peopel thing he TOrah is a separate book all together?
@@skwills1629 Because it was written well before the Christian bible, what do you think the Jews were doing for all those years before Jesus?
I've got a strong feeling the second level of hell is Florida
It's God's waiting room.
Flawda baby jit 🔥🔥🌴🌴glee
Why? I'd trade my Canadian passport any day to live there... Why? The sweet gun laws and endless feral pig hunting with my compound bow.. Sounds sweet to me.. I don't mind winter at all and love snowmobiling and x country skiing.. Not sure how I'd deal with the heat tho..
Live there. Can confirm.
@@Skelstoolbox
Florida is hell in liquid form.
A self inset fan-fic about a guy who gets noticed by sempai and goes on a quest to find his waifu
And that self-insert fan-fix became official Christian doctrine
Everything in the world is boring if you want it to be.
delete dis
@@raelaash4759 nice one!
Gotta love 2019+ vernacular
I remember when I was 6, I used to believe that Limbo was just like those Canadian tire waiting rooms, filled with people reading magazines or newspapers for a long bloody time
That’s the depiction they used in Being Human (at least the original one, not sure about the American one). You wait around for hours reading magazines about nothing, waiting for your number to get called. Eventually after someone leads you down a long corridor, you’re shown to a slightly different but basically identical waiting room and given another number. Ad infinitum
Literally no one:
Knowing Better: *Satan face*
Where did this meme come from and why does it exist.
Thousand Dragon #DDM
@@kevinvu5432 I think it comes from Rawling's tweets about Harry Potter's stuff (the saga)
I believe that because that's when it makes the more sense
@@HelderGriff gay
I refuse to break the 666 likes.
When you said picture hell I thought of the Minecraft Nether
Satan is a big square ghost who spits fireballs. Confirmed.
The nether is my favorite place in minecraft. What does that say about me?
And The End is Paradiso and "The Sky" which was cut from the game is purgatory.
Chronfucius Satan is describes as a guy with three faces and you don't immediately think of the Wither?
@@andrewprahst2529 I think you have those flippef
Ah yes, to symbolize heavenly beauty you use Riley Reid, an exemplary Christian who definitely wouldn’t get stuck on Venus.
I thought that was Riley!
I LOL'd when I saw that photo.
I was just thinking then that anyone who recognizes the stand-in model is definitely going to the more interesting segments of the lust-decibel curve, lol.
All of us who know who she is will be joining her, sounds like heaven to me
timstap
when ur 5th circle of hell is literal heaven for vikings
What is the 5th circle
Not necessarily. He depicted the River Styx more like a giant swamp, to represent how people “stew” in their own anger as it destroys them. One guy tries to get on the ship and Dante beats him off of it, which Virgil approves of
Valhalla
VALHALLA
@@AStrangeTree Dante beats him off?
Strictly speaking, when Dante wrote the DC Italian did not really exist. He wrote the DC using the language spoken in Florence. His work helped establishing Tuscan as the national language of Italy, and it was formally adopted when Italy was unified in 1861.
pippomaneful--THANK YOU; wile NO language fan, I REALLY LIKE your technical
historic accuracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am an Automotive historian;---& O GOD!!!!! do
the WANABEES EVER SCREW IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-------FORD FALSEHOODS???; I SHOULD WRITE A BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@packardexelence so true, I recently saw a mustang with a false hood, looked awful...
@@NotNewButYork THAT'S JUST THE KIND OF CRACK I WOULD EXPECT
FROM A BRITISH-MARSAN COWBOY-😉😉😉;----THANKS!! BOOKMARKED--KNIGHTS OF CYDONIA!!!!!------ME??? I WAS ADOPTED
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RASEING A CAR-NUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Florence's language can be called Italian, in fact the Divine Comedy is studied in Italian schools and the difference is extremely minimal especially when spoken. The real major difference is just found in the word used, as some of them either are not used anymore or are not commonly used.
XIV century Italian is basically Vulgar Latin
"Abandon all hope ye who enter here" should be this planet's official tagline.
i cant disagree,
My Greek/Latin teacher had that printed out and taped to the door of his classroom.
Lasciate ogne speranza, o voi ch'intrate
Or how bout the Democratic national headquarter building
Abbandonate ogni speranza oh voi che entrate
Minor correction:
Ali wasn't the Prophet Muhammad's son, he was his cousin/son-in-law.
Thank you. The "son" part threw me off, because Ali wasn't the son of Muhammed and thus I figured he couldn't have been talking about Islam.
In common language, it is reasonable to simplify a son-in-law as a son. It may have been worth being specific about though.
Wait what, when did he mention that?
@@taj4137 It was the one he left out when discussing the sowers of discord.
A. N. Shia started because they believed Ali should be caliph (And should be a dynasty), and there would be only 7. Hussein is supposed to be the final and start the apocalypse.
when a fanfic is so good, it becomes canon
It didn't though.
It's not canon
@@jakobbauz I mean, not officially, but a good deal of Catholic art from the 14th century onward takes inspiration in some way or an another from Dante's work to represent Hell. There were representations before, of course, but it left a mark on later works of art.
Fandom canon then?
@@samrevlej9331 But not really. Dante drew on current understandings and popular ideas.
Knowing Better, the Lustful are not “Blown over.” The wind actually blows them off of their feet and they “fly” with the wind.
Also, the gluttonous don’t eat the slush....Cerberus did. They’re just kinda forced to lay down in the stinky mud while Cerberus claws and nips at them.
The first bolgia is for panders and seducers, you got that part right, you just mixed up the punishment. You see, the bolgia are like moats connected by bridges...Dante and Virgil have to go to the midpoint of the bridge to view the punishment. What they see is two files of sinners, one file coming toward them and the other running in the way they’re facing. As they walk, they are being lashed by horned demons (in ancient times, people believed that if you cheated, you grew horns on your head.) As they goaded others in life, they are now being goaded in death.
Finally, remember that Lucifer is a perversion, a mockery of all God is. The three faces on one body mimic the Trinity, but are actually the polar opposites of the qualities described on the Gates of Hell (Divine Omnipotence-Extreme Helplessness, Supreme Intelligence-Deepest Ignorance, First Love-Ultimate Hatred.)
A few minor things...all the dead in Hell have knowledge of the far future on Earth (one of the gluttons proved this when he gave Dante a prophecy), but they don’t know anything of present time. A soul actually believed his son was dead because of Dante’s confusion about the topic. Medusa did not appear to Dante, but three furies called for her. In the fifth circle, there is another group of sinners under the Styx’s mud, the sullen, or the people who internalized their anger. As they choked on their anger in life, now they choke on the black mud of the Styx.
Last two things....what Dante calls “art” is really human industry.. The argument is that humans, by their nature, work for God...all they do is to exalt God. Therefore, their labor is dedicated to God, in a way. However, moneylending is not proper....with moneylending there is no labor involved...thus, it’s sinful. Also, the sinners in the third region of Cocytus aren’t on top of the ice (the poet is clear that the wind freezes things pretty quickly.) Rather, they are lying supine with their faces up. Since they’re eternally weeping, the wind freezes their tears and makes it look like they have crystal visors on. One last thing, the last zone in Hell is not for those traitorous to God specifically, but just traitorous to their lords.
Andrew Ollmann That Last point cleared a lot up for me because I was confused on how Brutus and Cassius betrayed God. When you write it was betrayers to their lords that certainly clears things for me. Thanks
Thank you for all the extra clarifications. I wasn't all that satisfied with his explanation
Why so long though
There’s also confusing 40 pieces of silver with 30.
Yes, because the Tetris theme is the most demonic song fitted for hell and purgatory
Obviously we all know Tetris is the real root of all sin
Knowing Better, Overly Sarcastic Productions, and CGP Grey. The Holy Trinity of social studies
Jaden Duran I agree
more like a Tri-Force
Amen
His moniter 60 fps thing was bs but...
In a way I like CGP Gray, I really enjoy a lot of the content. But I find every word that comes out of Grey's mouth to be filled with the most unbearably flagrant pomposity, that I can't help but roll my eyes through every single video.
“Dis is two ferrets” Dis is why I subscribed.
18:00 “Thots can still be sinful.”
-Knowing Better 2019
Also 21:16 “Purgatory is for lustful thots.” This video is a goldmine of snippets 😂😂
17:59 is a better stamp
Excommunication: “We’ve decided that you’re not going to Heaven, and we’ve told God about our decision.”
🧐 Accurate
That's not what excommunication is
Excommunication is were someone is kicked out of the Church, as a punishment by the church for breach of Church discipline, It does not forbid the excommunicate one form repenting and being saved. the whole We’ve decided that you’re not going to Heaven, and we’ve told God about our decision.”
is bad theology and a misunderstanding of what Excommunication is in that it forgets God is Sovereign.
The idea that you have posted would require God to go back on so many of his promises that would be totally against God's character so that it would be impossible for that to happen. God has said I will never leave or forsake you, In just about each book of the bible, and Jesus has said "I will never lose any you have given me, but one", and "None can shance any one form my hand." So the weight of the evidence in the bible is this understanding of Excommunication is not correct.
@@Delgen1951 from Wikipedia "In first Christian centuries excommunication was not regarded as a simple external measure; it touched the soul and the conscience. It was not merely the severing of the outward bond which holds individual to their place in the Church; it severed also the internal bond, and the sentence pronounced on earth was understood to be ratified in heaven."
So, while not accurate now, it once was accurate. And the fact you can beg and plead to have them ask god to forgive you doesn't change the fact they effectively told god what they decided.
What James Williston said: the description in the video is not how excommunication is supposed to be used, but it was historically abused like this. I have no qualms about kicking unrepentant “Christians” out of the Church, as not doing so sends a message that repentance isn’t important.
“I don’t actually know what sleet is.” -Hawaii Man
Sleet is frozen rain.
lol
CORRECTION: The Comedy was not written in 1300, it is set in 1300. Dante started writing it in 1308 and finished it in 1320...
No one cares you dork.
@@carboy101 your step dad cares
I think he meant the 1300s, but thank you for being accurate. People do care and are appreciative.
@@carboy101 people do care bad person >:(
very angry. :(
If I, as a catholic, tried to nitpick this video as much you are doing, I think I could write a whole book
Hell for me would be being forced to watch Ricegum for eternity
My Hell is being forced to watch Rob Schneider movies on an endless loop.
my hell is reading comment sections
Yeah
>implying that isn't already hell
@@alexandrine1558, the Asian part of it anyway
Overly Sarcastic Productions did a 3 part series summarizing the Divine Comedy, if you guys are interested
LordRavensong yeah the links in the description 🤦♂️
Kalman09 he’s joking, smart one
@@kalman0966 I realized that when I finished the video. I made the comment before I finished because I had to watch it in two sessions
Dog joke.
It's worth pointing out that every, and I mean EVERY, single line of text in the Divine Comedy has a second, third and fourth hidden meaning and message to it.
All of that while also following a perfect rhyme scheme.
So proud of my boy Dante (or Durante).
This video here has a Part 2-1000 thx to Atheist-UA-camrs existing.
If you like deep-dives into Religion or fascinating, welllll-researched Discussions
about any Aspect of it, what about Holy Koolaid, Rhino, and Aron Ra?
@@slevinchannel7589 Aron Ra isnt in the same league.
28:10 Ethiopians actually have had a strong Christian tradition for centuries that evolved separately from European Christianity. They even tried to leverage it against European colonizers when they began to carve up Africa. Also, they have really cool churches that have been entirely cut from stone.
It's possible Dante didn't recognize them bc they were Orthodox. I mean, his beloved Crusades sacked the Orthodox Christian city of Constantinople, so...
Is that the Tetris theme in the Purgatory section?
Yepperino
I am the man who arranges the blocks
Thought i was going crazy I was playing tetris while this was in the background
Minos: I am the man who arranges the souls
Who descend upon me from up above...
I thought I was going insane from too much tetris 99
“Wood of the suicides”
*Wait a minute*
Ha ha ha!
"The second circle of Hell is where the fun begins." - Knowing Better; March 24, 2019
the exact date is probably wrong because of editing
@@superbeltman6197but quotes from magazines cite the publication date, not the day they were submitted to the editor nor the day they were finished
I was not expecting him to put on red face paint and go all out omg. I love his commitment, I think it’s great. By the way, your videos are amazing.
But redfacing isn't PC.....
I couldn't take him seriously.. not that any of that bs he's talking about can be taken seriously anyway.
I love that the theme song of purgatory is a slow rendition of Tetris. Very apt, kudos.
Do you maybe please know the name of this particular version?
@@chrissytheconqueror7049 This video here has a Part 2-1000 thx to Atheist-UA-camrs existing.
If you like deep-dives into Religion or fascinating, welllll-researched Discussions
about any Aspect of it, what about Holy Koolaid, Rhino, and Aron Ra?
I love your sense of humor, and quick but insightful story telling. It's content just ripe for consuming.
Brutus: “I will be remembered along with my friend Cassius as the last of the virtuous Romans”
Dante: puts both Cassius and Brutus in the centre most place of hell while Satan chews on them for eternity
Why aren't the other traitors who stabbed him also be included in there?
Why did Dante like Julius Caesar so much? He even made him have a throne in limbo.
@@ash_11117 Isn't he also a general like Alexander? He would've been diving in the Phlegethon.
@@hazyorange exactly
@@hazyorange Dante didn’t like the Greeks, that’s why most Greek heroes and symbols are placed in hell
28:12 actually, Ethiopia is a predominantly Christian nation and was one of the first countries to adopt Christianity.
In The Greco-Latin world "Ethiopians" means "black faced", basically African
@@Palladiosios weren't they called ifrikan's during the roman times?
@@uberfeel maybe by the Romans but not by the Greeks. Also, Africa was called Libya back then
@@Palladiosios yes, but when rome conquered north africa they even meet some black african which they called them ifrikkan. Africa name came from irrikkan.
Ethiopians were Christians long before all European countries became Christian
--50---shades--of--gray nope
37 layer of Dante comedy yes
Dante's inferno is to Christianity what 50 shades of gray is to twilight
Your unwavering no nonsense delivery of dialogue paired with your unique aesthetic decisions is why I love you ❤️ It's always a surprise, always hilarious and this jarring juxtaposition makes you incredibly sympathetic, likeable and interesting.
I love it when really smart people have a sense of humour about themselves, it comes across way less preachy
Knowing Better: The River Styx is probably the only river from Greek mythology you know
Me who's favorite book is House of Hades: I possess a knowledge greater than most
yeah basically
Oh god, I loved Percy Jackson, but fuck me are Rick's books painfully inaccurate
@@Yixdy are they?
@@tamikras9927 very much so, but I can understand why, being that it's a work of fiction based on ancient fiction. So it's only inaccurate in comparison to it's fictional source material
Very good job! The Divine Comedy is the book I studied the most in my life, for over 20 years every day, it is extremely complicated, and it is not easy to find a summary as well done as yours in English.
There are some minor imprecisions though, let's name just a few:
- Minos circles his tail around himself, not around the soul of the damned, in order to indicate where the convicted has to be incarcerated.
- Pier delle Vigne, among suicides, is not a Florentine, he was from Capua (Naples) and was accused of having betrayed Frederick the Second Emperor, probably the most influential political figure of all Middle Ages.
- Ulysses is burning together with Diomedes.
- In Purgatory, among choleric souls, Dante speaks to the Venetian Marco Lombardo, pretty interesting, and in the sloth terrace to Gherardo II, abbot of San Zeno, who blames the costume of nepotism.
- Virgil cannot, but Statius provides the solution to the riddle of how a soul can starve, and it is one of the most delusional and magnificent passages of the whole book.
- A deeper respect for the figure of Beatrice is due, I am sorry.
Ok, I do not want to be too pedantic. Thank you for the excellent piece.
Well, I am not a professional, by any mean; it is just my hobby. Professionals are called "Dantists", they are philologists and mostly work in Universities; I just want to have fun and I focus only on the topics I am interested in. Of course, after so much time, I accumulated certain knowledge. I know it could appear a nerdy waste of time, but on the other hand, I do not play videogames, for example, and I know nothing about sports. I just happen to like history and old Italian. It is a great book, and it is translated very well in English, give it a try, but I warn you, it is pretty addictive.
Ah, no, no, not at all! I was just giving an explanation because I know that it may sound bizarre. And even if I did not know about that joke on The Onion I considered your comment really funny.
I am happy to know you read the entire book, it is old and detached from our way of understanding reality, that's also why accuracy and time are much needed to get somewhere. Dante was a visionary, I still struggle to picture how one man alone could imagine as many things as he did.
Thanks man! JRR Tolkien is great! And as soon as possible I will check your suggestion.
These are the UA-cam comments I long for.
@@CheekyCynic agreed.
Our Lord and Savior has descended from heaven bringing a 30 min video with him
This is a MASTERPIECE!! I especially loved all the little jokes and asides. You've blown me away
I totally agree.
Now I can stop nagging myself to read Dante. This was masterful, you laid it all out and it was as if I had a private tutor. Thanks heaps.
Anybody else notice that when he started talking about purgatory the music in the background was just the Tetris theme
I always get this weird feeling when I hear somebody put "Kalinka" as background music for a video but then remember it's just "The Tetris theme" to most people...
Adam and Eve: Goes against God and brings sin and death to all of humanity and the world, but ends up in Heaven.
Satan: Goes against God and only convinced one third of angels to follow him (33%), ends up frozen in the darkest and coldest part of hell.
Antartica ???
Well, Adam and Eve didn't know the difference between good and evil before eating the fruit...though that just raises the question of how a being of infinite justice can see it right to punnish a couple of humans with the ethical understanding of infants (along with all of their descendents, who did nothing wrong) for eating something he put right in the middle of what amounts to their playpen.
Oh, and need I mention that Yahweh is omniscient, so would have known that they would eat from the tree.
The divine comedy still makes more sense ethically than the book is was based on.
"It really do be like that sometime"
_-Saint Bernard_
@@dynamicworlds1 No, it doesnt raise those questions. Good and Evil are not synonyms for Right and Wrong, and they did know what they did was wrong. And they weren't babies. THe idea that the Tree Of The Knowledge Of Good And evil made them have general knowledge is not really supportable.
Also, didn't the Early Church, and the Rabbis for that matter, view the whole thing as Allegorical?
Origen, who was quiet influential in Medieval Theology, wrote in the 2nd Century AD that this is a shadow of a Spiritual event. The coats of flesh Adam and Eve got from God? Those are the physical bodies we now have. The whole Eden thing was set in a Spirit World we can't really understand now and is set in an allegorical fashion.
The difference, in terms of Classical Christianity like Dante, is Adam repented and Satan did not.
Besides, Adam didn't go to Heaven till after the Harrowing Of Hell, so he went to Hell first.
With that said, many Christians, and Jews generally, see Satan as less God's adversary, and more as God's prosecuting attorney here to make sure we Truly Love God. Its less that he's Evil and more than tempting us is his job.
Ferret *gets picked up*
KB: Dis is a ferret
Ferret: ...hes on drugs again... -_-
I have learned more about my faith in God and His handiwork on earth from “ Knowing Better” than any other videos. Thank you.
One thing I should point out. Dante did NOT write this book in Italian. At this point, Latin had broken up into differing dialects that were spoken throughout Italy, and the Divine Comedy was written in the Florentine dialect. He did so in order that people in Florence who didn't know Latin could read his work. However, the poem was so popular that it was copied and spread throughout the Italian peninsula and people far from Florence learned this dialect to read this work. When Dante wrote the Divine Comedy, the language he was writing wasn't Italian, but as a result of him, it BECAME Italian. That's why Italians call Dante the "father of the Italian language."
Did Dante ever say to Beatrice:
I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with LIGHT!!!!
After he sang a song he wrote for her with an electric guitar that shoots lightning bats and turns into a scythe
"Is there an acceptable decibell level or something"
*D E A D* 😂
The Margaritas rip
Lmao to which circle are you goin'
Dont forget the moan
it's just decibel lmao
*moan*
Fun fact, a Jewish person a little after Dante made his own version of hell, and in that version Jesus Christ is forever boiling in a vat of shit for falsely claiming to be the Messiah.
Oh! So that story is true huh?! Haha. Good. I watched a Jewish rabbi say that here on YT and I was laughing my ass off upon hearing it. He said it this way: "The founder of Christianity is currently being boiled in feces." 😂😂😂💩
Judaism: jesus sucks and is blasphemous
Christianity: jesus is god and died for our sins
islam: jesus is a very noble prophet, a great man, the greatest prophet before Mohammad
Look fellas no need to fight over nothing it’s all made up anyway. Don’t be sheep.
@Jackoftrades Jesus man, you took it from 1 to 100 really quick
@@johncenaplayingstarcraft9580 False there are no greatest prophets in Islam they are all equal
Tetris is purgatory confirmed
EDIT:The effort you put into the costumes just shows commitment
Riley Reid is the fallen angel of chastity. 😏
The Missing Link Riley Reid, connecting people across religions
I read your replay first at the beginning of the video and was SHOCKED when I saw her later in the pictures :D
I dont get it...
She's yummy
@@rubenguerreiro9382 Beatrice becoming more angelic at 25:05 is an adult actress who goes by the name Riley Reid. Easter egg, I guess?
That's kind of a stretch to say it's entirely possible Dante inspired Martin Luther. Disgust with the Church's hypocrisy was well established and often recorded prior to Dante. John Wycliffe was likely a much bigger influence on Martin Luther than Dante.
Yeah, you're pretty much right. The hussites already rebelled for this same reason some 70 years before the reform.
I literally had to read this book over the summer before my freshman year of high school! When my teacher told me it was a college level book on the first day of class, I literally wanted to riot!
As an adult, I'm actually thankful I read it because now I... know better 😉
What other books has someone at school rated higher level than they should be?
Thank you! I'm glad you are teaching that "Immaculate Conception" isn't the same as the "Virgin Birth". I think that people's confusion over these two dogmas leads to other significant difficulties in understanding by so many people. It's frustrating, since when people are told about this, they sometimes think their faith is being challenged, rather than simply a nuance of dogma being addressed.
Tomorrow i have test paper from this poem. I cannot believe it. You posted this after some minutes I read some things about The Divine Comedy. Is faith. I am in shook.
Trust me it all sucks and its useless. I use about 10% of what I learned in school in my life and I find only about 40% you learn useful. XD For examply I cant write without typos and serious grammar mistakes, but I know how to pick sentece apart and say what is verb what that verb ties to etc.. or what is aposiopeze in language etc... Of course in my native longuege not english.
@@hengistcz1940 Well is up to you to use the information or not. I am passioned about religion so was a plesure to learn all of this.
@@bighiu-tofanchris717 Most of it is garbage. :) You learn those things just to have your childhood destroyed and then when you are older and you could change something you cant because now you have to work.
I recently stumbled upon your channel and have been watching all of your videos. Good stuff 👍
I’m halfway through this video and I’ve been listening via a Bluetooth headset. I had a good laugh out loud when i opened up UA-cam to see knowing better masked as satan. You’re a good man.
13:13 he was talking about Mohammed: The prophet of Islam.
Yep. The thing is in Dante's time Mohammed was believed to have been a Christian bishop that at some point became heretic, founding Islam. In the medieval view it wasn't a separate religion, but an heretic offshoot of Christianity. That's why he put him there.
@@zanizone3617 wow thats new to me lol interesting
@@m3rl1on If one thinks about it, it sort of makes sense. The centuries before and around the founding of Islam were full of heresies coming from schismatic churches/patriarchs in the Orient (nestorianism, arianism, monophysitism, you name it). Given the general murkiness around those matters, it is not surprising that they thought it was the same deal with Mohammed.
That’s what I thought too but Muhammad never had a surviving son, only daughters survived.
Crash Bandicoot
Ali was his nephew iirc
if not, then his cousin
hold up is that the tetris theme song played in piano in the background
@ 20:11
RETROFUTURISM wow, good catch
I'm pretty sure it's a harp?
@@kittycatcaoimhe I'm not good with my instruments oops
If so it's blindingly perfect
Yep. Totally the Tetris theme.
Knowing Better has 4 P’s. What four sins do y’all think he must still defeat in Purgatory?
Lust Lust Lust and Sloth
Sloth, Greed, Gluttony and Lust probably.
I suspect Wrath, Lust, Gluttony, and Pride.
I think we all agree on Lust.
I bet, like most people he regrets some past short temperedness and present ill-patience. Wrath.
I bet he feels he may, or may have in the past, consumed too much alcohol and food.
Anyone who thinks their opinions or research are worth putting on youtube for other people to watch and listen to have some level of pride. I'm sure he's cognizant of that.
Why is everyone with lust?
Because I suspect most people have that one
Honestly Dante's Heaven is way more interesting then his Hell. I'd like a movie about that: journeying through space, seeing historical and mythical figures. Sounds awesome.
This video: exists
Me, an italian: *heavy breath*
I'm Argentinian, so, we are kinda related
@@pablo_giustiniani unless you have italian grandfather and speak italian , then you're not.
At least speak italian
@@akai4942 well, he has a very italian surname soo...
@@akai4942 I speak Italian, kinda
Also my family has some Italian traditions, we eat pasta every Sunday
My great grandparents were from Venice too
Same
Ok that was one of the coolest videos I've ever seen
@@workin4alivin585 dude, sorry someone in 2019 might make some errors regarding a text from 1320. pft.
My inner 10 year old on Albinoblacksheep told me to let you know he appreciated that End of Ze World reference.
I’m so freakin’ glad people still remember that. UA-cam classic 👌🏽
@_ _ is this a jo jo reference?
I love your subtle references to classic videos across time on UA-cam.
"Dang, that is a sweet Earth you might say...."
WRONG!
"Dis is the city of Hell. Dis is a ferret. Dis is TWO ferrets"
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Who dis?
@@User31129 you know joe?
Just mentioning "Inferno" by Larry Niven and Jerry Jerry Pournelle, a sci-fi take on Dante.
Gotta love Benny.
Purgatory in "The Seven Deadly Sins" feels more like Hell than the blank version.
GodzillaFreak the truest theme of purging yourself of sin
2:50 I am now imagining CGP guiding you through hell, the way the quartermaster explained piracy in his recent video.
Ethiopia knew about Christianity long before most of Europe did. Currently over half is Christian( most Ethiopian Orthodox).
From Wikipedia: According to its tradition, the Coptic Church was established by Saint Mark, an apostle and evangelist, during the middle of the 1st century (c. AD 42).
yeah but at that point in time Ethiopia had been almost completely cut off from the rest of the Christian world for nearly 600 years so they had no knowledge of weather or not the people in Ethiopia still knew of Christ at the time and this uncertainty about the status of places like Ethiopia and the Assyrian Church in Iraq but hope of their continued existence ultimately led to the Prestor John legend so the interpretation largely holds (also Europeans tended to refer to all of sub-saharan Africa as Ethiopia including non-Christian and even undiscovered areas so again largely holds)
Thank you, he got a lot of details wrong in this one.
@@mikeyjoe419 Like what?
@@missfashionator For one he says that Mary is the only person to be born without sin, which is untrue because Jesus was also born without sin. He also says that Dante thought the earth was "the center of the universe instead of the Sun" which implies that the Sun is the center of the universe. It's only the center of the solar system, not even the galaxy, let alone the entire universe.
@@mikeyjoe419 Thank you!
Wood of the suicides?
Don’t know if I should make a Logan Paul or a Mortal Kombat reference 🤔
*_i know right? my anus is so wet right now._*
bowl4two extremely tmi lol
Ameha K
It’s actually not enough
Do both
Surp Nurp both
Fantastically well done. So many people disregard Purgatorio and Paradiso, which are such beautiful works.
I'm pretty late to this party, but: how do you not have at least a million subscribers? Your content is original, well thought out and delivered, and features surprise ferrets. You've certainly gained a new subscriber here, keep it up!
X2. Ferrets did it for me (kidding)
23:23 “Is there an acceptable decibel level?” IM CRYING
@Anton Gonzalez it's marriage
So you only have 4 P's so that means you admit to being guilty of 4 of 7 deadly sins right?
He’s been through the first 3 Terraces, duh
where did you get 7 deadly sins from
When he says the 7 P's represent the 7 deadly sins
ME: ( gets shot in the heart with a bullet)
GOD: you done YE your last HAW partner
this entire time I was thinking about someone just speedrunning from the circles of hell to the layers of heaven, doing tasks and running through punishments
Your idea is as valid as Dante'a.
You have great comedic timing, both with your schpiel and your razor sharp sound effects.
I have yet to meet a Christian who takes Dante as theologically sound, but still an excellent summary
Yet they take Persian and Islamic Hell and Satan as Biblical. The original Judaeo-Christian Hell [Sheol] and Satan [Ha Satan] can be found in the oldest book of the scriptures, The Book of Job. Strange that Evangelicals say that they believe every word of scripture to be True©, Divinely Inspired™ and Inerrant® while rejecting absolutely everything in Job. But, of course, these hypocrites reject at least 50% of Jesus' teaching in the NT, especially The Beatitudes®!!!!!
@@JMM33RanMA I am not an Evangelical but you misrepresent them. Not only do Evangelicals not claim 100% o the Bible is Literal, if they did then Parables are Literal and there are no figures of speech, which is more what Militant Atheists do than Evangelicals, but they don't really reject Job. I've seen Evangelical sermons on Job.
I also do't Think Evangelicals are as hateful as you or many others say.
I find it hard to find a Christian who can tell the difference between quotes from the Bible, Nostradamus, and Shakespeare. So there's that.
@@ernststravoblofeld I can though
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@@wheresmyeyebrow1608 Is that a language?
Notification SQUAAAAAD
(Edit) this video was awesome, especially the costumes (which mustv'e taken a long time, most of which satan.). No matter how long the video, I never loose intrest while watching. Thank you for continuing to make great content!
Everyone: Halo references!
Me: Is no one going to mention that subtle reference to Hbomberguy at 8:55?
I was actually going through the comments to see if anyone else had seen it.
+
I long for the day when Kevin is hated by all.
Knowing Better: *makes a halo joke with Dante and Vergil*
Devil May Cry: Am I a joke to you?
Wow. I feel old and dumb. When he mentioned ODST, I went and looked up "Odious Tea."
Kelly Fishbeck Halo ODST came out in 09...
@@kakyointhemilfhunter4273 Yeah, ten years ago. People can grow older within that span of time, crazy huh
@@kirsty_yamaha Didn't see how old she was
@@kakyointhemilfhunter4273 was just a general statement, idk either but even at 22 in my case, remembering ODST made me feel old
"Inferno starts with Dante being lost in the woods, where he gets found by Virgil-"
*_SUPERINTENDENT NOISES_*
People talking about Inferno:
People talking about CastleVania:
"Why is there always random Greek stuff?"
Games = Art, proven.
Or Devil May Cry
Or Age of mythology