Exactly, I love that detail. It's essentially that we are unable to comprehend what we see since that's what it means to be a divine being. Essentially Lovecraftian horrors except they're not evil!
"Aaron's staff swallowed up their staffs." This is biblical evidence of docking. Then later god forbade it and that's why they all had to get circumcised.
I like this casual discussion of the biblical canon as if it where another fictional story instead of having to walk on eggshells to avoid blasphemy while discussing it. It makes all this really engaging.
King David was an unequivocal badass. Also one of his Great-great Grandmas was a prostitute who helped the Israelites sack Jericho. Her name was Rahab, and she was also badass.
anonymousdratini David is a great example of a character being bestowed with incredible fate and destiny and still being incredibly flawed, much like humanity
I would call going from meek kid that killed a giant to renowned warrior to dickhead that gets a dude murdered so he can get away with impregnating said wife to be a pretty drastic arc if I do say so myself.
@@votethebulliesout2956Arc is a literature term that define the journey of a character in a story. With motivation, climax and resolution. They are called arcs because the tension rise and fall like a part of circle.
@@votethebulliesout2956 an Arc of suspense fore example where the tension/suspense heightens and falls similar to a circular arc or similar things IE a diagram with an arc as the graph of suspense in the story
i dont think knowing better should go out of his way to be moderate. It's okay to be a leftist. Its okay to denounce religion. Not saying he has to, but knowing better shouldnt try to be neutral just because. He shouldn't apologize for something or someone just to seem moderate. He should go where facts lead him. And if the facts lead him left of center, i'm fine with that
To be an atheist only requires you to not be convinced of theism in other words..........if you are not convinced a god or gods exists............that qualifies as being as atheist. And if you don't know there's a god, you can't believe in one since you are not convinced Doesn't say anything about if you believe in the supernatural or divinities or not. A lot of Buddhists are atheists since they do not consider their icon to be a god. Agnosticism is not middle ground between religious and atheist.............it refers to it being possible to know a god exists or not. Doesn't say anything about belief or disbelief. I just wish people would get these simple basic concepts right.
@@Nerdiness1985 ehhh, atheist derives from the greek root a, meaning without and theos, meaning god. so to be an atheist means to not believe in god, there is no "convincing", it's a concrete concept. agnostic is derived from the english root a, meaning not, and greek root gnostic, meaning known. it's meaning is more of scepticism or doubt, than full on disbelief. I'm not entirely for sure what you were saying, but I hope this helps iron out any problems people may have with the facts.
He is a moderate, and he's an atheist because he knows better. He just doesn't want to trigger peoples' backfire effect when they find out they're wrong and stupid.
Hey, KB! The apple being the forbidden fruit might stem from the fact that in Latin the words for “evil” (_malum_) and “apple” (_mālum_) sounded similar, with the latter being a longer “a”. From here, people might have made the connection between the two and started referring to the forbidden fruit as apple. Interestingly enough, in Old English, apple (spelled “æpple”) referred to fruit in general, and then might have changed the meaning to mean the apple we know of specifically since it’s the representative fruit for Europeans. Similar thing can be applied to French word for apple “pomme” which came from Latin word “pomum” referring to any kind of fruit.
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim it's not blatantly wrong, it's just an exaggeration. Pretty much everything tasted less sweet before modern times. For various reasons.
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim I'd guess he never got into a wikipedia rabbit hole of apple research and also never got to eat crabapples/wild apples. If anything apples were sour and tart AF. The only fruit that I'd describe as tasting "like dirt" are asiatic pears, which DO taste earthy under all the sweet juice and DO look confusingly similar to freckled, pale gold apples. (I know that's how I ended up with one of those instead of a golden delicious once.) Maybe the asiatic pears' ancestors tasted more earthy and less sweetjuicy and he confused an apple pear with an apple in his research? That or he confused a french thing for an apple thing: in french potatoes are called earth/ground apples (pommes de terre).
I love that movie and I'm an atheist. Wish more mainstream Christian films were like it, focused on telling a good story instead of preaching to the choir. It may get more people to watch them.
I am completely fine with people believing in God or having faith. I don’t really care. But when someone does something horrible in their name, like attacking others for being who they are. It becomes a problem. Also measuring Noah’s arc in football fields is very American.
That second part is hilarious cuz it's TRUE. For the first part, I think before it was taboo to talk about religion cuz it was = power or money. Then ppl began arguing over it. Then violence/backlash towards dissenters which is followed by more aggressive takedowns of religious figures. And now every thinks someone who criticizes something about a religion is out for blood. And that's a bad thing cuz then people talk about these things less.
TRpolit People will always judge each other and thats the human nature Some judge based on their own understanding and some based on a belief system they subscribe to So you shouldn’t really be annoyed when a religious individual judges prostitutes or homosexuals They are just doing what everyone else does
@@aManWhoWantsEverything No, it goes a couple steps further than that actually. Religious people hold a privileged status in society(both in the west and and mid-east) where they enforce their "judgment" in the form of legislation upon the non-religious. So lets not pretend all they are doing is judging others.
@@vladys5238 7 and sent out a raven, and it kept flying back and forth until the water had dried up from the earth.8 Then he sent out a dove to see if the water had receded from the surface of the ground. 9 But the dove could find nowhere to perch because there was water over all the surface of the earth; so it returned to Noah in the ark. He reached out his hand and took the dove and brought it back to himself in the ark.10 He waited seven more days and again sent out the dove from the ark. 11 When the dove returned to him in the evening, there in its beak was a freshly plucked olive leaf! Then Noah knew that the water had receded from the earth. In case anyone is curious but doesn't feel like looking it up.
Yeah just another example of somebody lying about the Bible just complete deceiver and then wonder why they're going to hell LOL cuz you're just lying to people I'm trying to trick them into going to hell with you that's fucked up and evil demonic the, parasitic the voice in their head is either the devil or spirits affecting their thinking or demons which could be parasites controlling them. It's like they have no conscience obviously which is Jesus Christ you see science and the Bible work together.
1:25 - IT WAS AARON! Thank you. I remembered my parents making it a point to tell me how wrong some movies were about the Moses account. Prince of Egypt was simply terrible (Biblically speaking) 5:00 - "None of that is in here." Actually, Noah DID send out two birds (a raven and a dove), and when the dove didn't come back, Noah assumed it found dry land. Also...Noah and his family were on the ark for 350 days, not merely 40. And the ark had a single window on the top. Yup. One single window. Ever wonder how Noah FED all those animals for a year and mucked out all those animal pens? Yeah...I wondered that too; and never got an answer from Biblical literature/apologists.
In some of those supposed modern recreations in the US (those are a thing, yes) iirc they use slatted floor and have multiple levels, so I wouldn’t want to be one of the animals at the bottom... just don’t think about it :D
Yeah, pretty disappointing that you got this wrong, KB. The dove thing definitely WAS in the Bible, in fact even the twig was in the Bible: _"And behold, the dove returned to him in the evening with a freshly plucked olive leaf in her beak. So Noah knew that the waters had receded from the earth. And Noah waited seven more days and sent out the dove again, but this time she did not return to him.…"_
@DaMudkip The detail itself implies that the author believes this, just as much as his choice of protagonist demonstrates that he believes this is infinitely better than allowing a single figure to rule by divine mandate. Given that he lived the hellish days of the first ‘democracy’ since the Romanii Res Publicum as it slowly failed to piece together how to exist without someone telling everyone else what to do, this should not be a surprise.
@Brian Szymczak Not... Exactly. The Torah was first written to codify the laws and traditions of a theocratic government that had recently been stomped out in Judea. The Bible was heavily influenced by Roman ideas of governance, about secular authorities placed in position by the actual will of the gods rather than by, well, old and smart people who do a lot of studying as the Jews believe (believed?). This carried over into the foundation of monarchy in Europe. So, while technically true that the Bible can be said to be a part of the fundamental concept of European monarchy, it doesn't actually... support it. No more than a letter from a 200 year old corpse can be said to support anything anyone is talking about today. It's also hard to claim monarchy and democracy are opposites. Successful republics universally hate monarchs with a inter-generational passion, but that's more of a survival mechanism, as republics without such a belief very rapidly hand powers off to a single individual to increase short-term efficiency at the expense of long-term stability. There are opposing ideologies, sure, but these rarely translate into opposing systems of government. For an example of this: the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, a monarchal democratic parliamentary state.
+Kobe Okamoto That kinda depends on how you define ‘democracy,’ doesn’t it? If it’s just ‘any political system dependent on its citizenry’s votes to function,’ the way I think of it, then it can be a very orderly and coordinated thing even when it’s direct. If it’s ‘any political system where the broad populace can tangibly control the state as a collective’ then it is difficult to imagine any order surviving long unless that populace numbers less than 60,000. (Below that point you can know everyone through a friend, and such small groups have a very, very easy time coordinating on every level that exists for them, to the point of not even requiring a political system most of the time. (Picture a guy hearing about someone who just ran out of food and can’t afford more telling someone about it, who then tells someone else, and so on until a line of runners forms out of thin air to move food across town from the concerned person’s building.))
25:00 Trey the Explainer has a pretty great series of videos on many of these confusing contradictions, at one point he addresses that there was originally TWO Torahs, one by Judea and one by Israel. When they were unified after the conquest of Babylon, these books were combined to create the contradictions we have.
Weird, since Israel is supposed to be the wicked one that was literally erased from history according to the Bible. It even mentions that all its 10 tribes were "lost"
@@vulpes7079 To say the tribes themselves were lost is a little oversimplification. Essentially they all intermixed to the point that ten tribes became one nation.
He similarly has a video on Lilith, and how there’s not much evidence that she was a “first woman,” but rather just an Iron Age monster from the levant whose cultural significance and nature has been lost and telephoned over the millennia
@@mueezadam8438 I'm glad someone finally found good evidence for Jesus. Now we can dispense with the other shitty arguments I keep hearing.. they were getting old.
For funsies- Jesus lived, that is indisputable as far as historic facts are concerned. The real question is of his deification rather than his existence. From what little the NIV/KJV (Bible) tells us of his life, Jesus was a couch surfing hippy, one who believed in the rule of law and social order, but also in providing for the poor and the infirm, champion of the Golden Rule, and opponent of those who hoard wealth while others go without. In short, a premedieval Bernie Sanders.
Taking from Wikipedia "In Western Europe, the fruit was often depicted as an apple. This was possibly because of a misunderstanding of - or a pun on - mălum, a native Latin noun which means evil (from the adjective malus), and mālum, another Latin noun, borrowed from Greek μῆλον, which means apple. In the Vulgate, Genesis 2:17 describes the tree as de ligno autem scientiae boni et mali : "but of the tree [literally wood ] of knowledge of good and evil" (mali here is the genitive of malum)."
I was going to mention something similar. The term "apple" in a lot of Western European languages (specifically Germanic ones) was a generic term for fruit not native to the region, with some languages' words for "orange" literally translating to something along the lines of "Chinese apple (i.e. fruit)". I think Swedish is one of those languages, but I could be wrong (I'm just going off memory right now)
I'd like to agree that "apple" was just a synonym for "fruit" (and "fruit" itself might only have meant "results"). That's why we have pineapple, loveapple, and crab apple. In French, potato is "pomme de terre", literally earth apple. So, in the time of King James (and earlier), "apple" would have been a correct word. But language has changed since then, so we should probably be saying "fruit", and leaving "apple" for what we used to call "pomme".
Mahad Omar Genesis 8:10-11 KJV: “And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf plucked off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.”
@@cousinjimmy2638 If only that's what humans did. But the 'original' texts if you can even call it that were bastardized and pruned to be what is preached today. Catholicism doesn't even take it out, it just chooses what to believe and what not to from what is written. Religion is stupid, and thus are the people who propagate it.
I thought for sure the bird thing was in there, so I googled it... sure enough, Genesis 8: 6-12. Thankfully there are already dozens of comments already pointing out this mistake. He doesn't seem interested in correcting it though, meh who needs credibility?
This is publicly available knowledge. Watching this, along with your other videos, it strains my mind to understand how people still want to believe in Christianity when it's so blatantly wrong.
... but did Noah accomplish those things despite being a drunk or because of it? "Build a giant boat for a bunch of aminals? Why not, not like I got summfing elf to do." Did my karma just literally run over your Dogma?
Actually the reason Aaron was there was because he actually did most of the speaking for Moses, because Moses burnt his tongue and a young age which also has some juicy backstory
@@lu.ciel8770now there may be some inaccuracies because I don’t know the story by heart so take it with a grain of salt: So when Moses was a baby and was first adopted by the Egyptian Royals, they had to have him tested to see if he was worthy of being in the family. The test set up by the Pharaoh’s advisors was this one: Moses will be presented with a piece of hot charcoal, and a piece of gold. Whichever he grabs will tell the royals what type of person Moses will be. Now this was basically a rigged test, because baby see shiny rock, baby touch shiny rock. So Moses went for the gold, but before he got to it an Angel moved his hand towards the charcoal. Moses was caught off guard, burnt his hand, and instinctively put it in his mouth, which ironically just burnt his tongue as well. Even though he now had a speech impediment, the test showed the Pharaoh that Moses was special in a way he did not yet understand.
@@burper-oe6tm idk the kid grabs the burning coal, feels the painful heat in his hand and the next move is to shove it in his mouth? Not the brightest lightbulb in the box xD
4:10 "For those of you, who do not use cubits..." Me, part of an international audience: That's me! "Let's use inches and football fields." Me: Please no!
Ugghhh!!! Why do these stupid comments always float up to the top like toilet diarrhea. Use google or do simple math. People have to brag about their stupidity and ignorance (wahh! English measurements are too difficult!!! boohoo!)
@@andrewroberts5988 Imagine getting this upset about someone asking a genuine question about measurements they rarely if ever use in other countries. Yikes
@@andrewroberts5988 Yo dude, don't drag the English into your weird rant about USA units, keep those old backward measurements to yourselves (and oddly Liberia and Myanmar!). I'm British and we don't inches or football fields, like at all. We use centimetres, metres, double-decker buses or football PITCHES to measure length (Yes PITCHES! We play proper football that you use for feet for, on a pitch, not a field). Metres, Nelson's Columns or Blackpool Towers for height. Square metres, football PITCHES or the country of Wales for area. And Litres, Cubic metres, Olympic sized swimming pools or the Royal Albert Hall for volume. Perfectly simple and easy to understand for anyone :)
I recently have been trying to read the Hebrew Bible out of curiosity. The biggest shocker for me was how short the Tower of Babel story is. It was like a page long. It was also much less elaborate then I was thought as a child. I also realized that I was told an incomplete version of the story of Abraham as a child. A lot of children's version cut out some key moments in it.
Right?? And how much violence is contained in it. I grew up Catholic and they focused a lot on Jesus and forgiveness. Forgot to talk about Sodom, or when Isaac was put forth as a child sacrifice until god said “jk I’m good w lamb”
Which is wrong, the trinity was thought up in the middle ages, but yes, that is what people use to justify it nowadays. That theory falls apart pretty fast if you actually know any of the language and check out the earlier versions of the text, like the septuagint and lx versions.
In the Quran, God also refers to himself in (we, us), but also as (he, him) which means that Allah might be doing it to prevent people from gendering him as a male, similar to how people today use (they)
@@aws96314 that is a very modern way to look at it, which is not faithful to the ancient Hebrew context. Like he mentioned in the video, it was either referring to other lesser Gods of which Yahweh was the supreme God, or it refers to the legions of angels around him in heaven.
@@Iamwrongbut I was talking about the Quran in Arabic. In Arabic (classical) the male singular form and the male plural form can be used to refer to males, as well as, anything that can not or should not be gendered.
@@aws96314 right. I was trying to say that if you apply the same logic to Hebrew which doesn’t follow those customs then you are imposing something on the text that isn’t native to its specific Hebrew context. Sorry for the confusion!
I thought not. It's not a story the Lord would tell you. It's a Jewish legend. Lucifer was an Archangel of the Lord, so powerful and so wise he could use the snake to influence the humans to eat a fruit.
If you ever need to look up paintings of the "temptation of Eve" - make sure to turn safe search on. Correction: The part of the Noah's Ark story where they send out birds to find dry land does happen in Genesis 8. It's written after the ark settles on dry land.
I just discovered this channel a few days ago. You are so binge-able. I wish you were my co-worker so I could just listen to you all day lol. Tired of hearing the same tired old politics and "history" I hear at work. I love the way you present information and how unbiased it seems.
I literally just understood why Adam's (life) and Lilith's (knowledge) children were at war, or at least I think that's why. Evangelion is confusing...
That reminds me of the beginning of the Fairly OddParents episode where Timmy's dad is in a hospital bed watching a video of someone getting crushed by a wall and saying that it's his favorite "Bible video". I thought it was interesting that he said "Bible" in a secular cartoon, but then I learned that the show's creator, Butch Hartman, is a Christian.
tl;dr: A few rough spots imo but great job overall. I’ve studied the Bible hardcore most of my life and I have three comments about this: 1. I wish you’d been a little clearer about what’s Genesis and what’s Milton. I feel like that section would be super confusing for people who don’t already know the source material. Something like the asterisk thing you’ve done before or different color overlays or whatever would have been nice. 2. Re Noah and the birds: That definitely is in Genesis. Chapter 8, verses 6-13 describe it very clearly. 3. Despite all of the above, I think you did an admirable job with this. I disagree strongly with your interpretation of some points but I always appreciate when common misconceptions are corrected and you did a good job of hitting some of the biggest ones. Keep up the good work!
@@mrpalaces The Bible has very little to say on this subject. Certainly angels are discussed quite a bit, but there are only a few very minor implications here and there of any possible hierarchy among them, and nothing at all in terms of specific outlines or descriptions, or even a definitive statement that it exists. Most of what some people believe about it comes from later writers such as Thomas Aquinas, Dante Alighieri, and yes, John Milton.
@@thadeusgaspar224 Absolutely true. I didn't mention this because I was thinking of Christian traditions, but of course many of those come ultimately from Jewish traditions. Thank you for making this excellent point. Also, my intention wasn't to contrast the content of the Bible with that of other sacred writings/teachings. I only meant to contrast it with secular or, at the very least, non-sacred writings such as Milton's poems. I apologize if that wasn't clear.
The Pomegranate as the tool of temptation actually makes a lot of sense, given that in Greek mythology, eating a Pomegranate (or part of one) was what caused Persephone to have to spend half the year in the Underworld as the wife of Hades, which makes her mother Demeter so sad that she kills all the plants and turns the Earth to winter until her daughter returns to Olympus in the spring.
@Psywriter What value does it serve in this context? He's trying to demonstrate that Moses didn't do the magic trick. Why is checking the "first English version" effective in that? By the way, I looked it up and KJV isn't the first English one. It was about 75 years too late for that honor. But with the force of a King behind it, it is certainly the most popular English version--55% of Americans Bible readers.
I want to point out the fact that they did send birds out to find dry land afterwards. I'm Jewish, and so all of this comes from the Torah (which are the first five books of the Tanakh, the Hebrew Bible, aka the old testament), but I don't know how you got the fact that they didn't send out the birds. Sure, it's not exactly clear that their only purpose is to scout out dry land, but the story basically goes Noah sends out a raven to travel back and forth and keep him updated on the levels of the waters. Then he sends out a dove to see if the "waters had abated" or not, which they handed because the dove came back without finding a "resting place for the sole of its foot." Seven days later, he sends the dove back and it returns with an olive leaf (this part is not entirely clear, but the dove found dry land). That's all in the source material, it's possible the Tanakh was simplified over the years as the old testament, but for us Jews, that's the story we tell and it comes from the text. It's also worth mentioning that "clean" or Kosher animals went on the ark in seven pairs, whereas the "unclean" or non-Kosher animals were just one pair.
Isn't it ripped off from the Book of Gilgamesh anyway? The only difference being that in the Bible God is responsible for flooding the earth while in the Book of Gilgamesh it's one God who causes it while others warn, well, Noah (who isn't called Noah but I don't remember his name lmao) to get in the fucking boat and take all types of animals with him. While the flood is happening, all the Gods except for the one who caused it are lamenting and crying over humans suffering. Also the bird stuff happens as well. I like to compare those stories because even though those preancient civilisations are looked on as barbaric but their Gods seemed to actually care for people and get emotional over them being hurt while Old Testament's God IS the reason behind people's suffering. Kinda weird if you take the atheist, cynical standpoint and think that whoever wrote this story down to put it in the Bible must have been deliberately trying to make his God in his version look like a dick. It's literally like an edgy fan fiction with the same story but more cruel protagonist.
@@aw2584 in the epic of Gilgamesh, the gods, lead by Enlil, decide to punish humanity for effectively making to much noise, with the only surviving human, Utnapishtim, only being saved because one of the gods, Ea, took pity on humanity. They only started weeping after fleeing and the flood had killed everyone. The mesopotamian gods are generally seen as erratic and frequently threw temper tantrums because that's what floods and therefore harvests were like on the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. By the end of Utnapishtims story, Ea accuses Enlil of being to harsh and Utnapishtim is granted immortality. I don't think this shows the Abrahamic god to be more cruel, but instead more consistent, less chaotic, and less selfish, at least in comparison with the conflict-riddled mesopotamian gods.
It's a byproduct of the heliocentric model. When you use the geocentric model and all the planets (including the Sun and the Moon) are just earth's satellites, you assume that they are just like Sun and Moon, uninhabitable balls of nothing. But when you switch to heliocentric, the implied assumption is that Earth is just like other planets and therefore other planets may be similar to Earth enough to host a life of their own.
26:21 : "God (capital G) is only the god of the Hebrews. Everyone else has their own gods, and they're free to worship them as they please." It's even more complicated than that. The Hebrew name of the God of the Hebrews is "Yahweh" (YHWH), but the Hebrew word for God is "Elohim", and BOTH words are used throughout the Old Testament -- sometimes interchangeably, sometimes not. Worse, did you notice that "Elohim" ends in an "-im"? That's how Hebrew forms its plurals. "Elohim" is a PLURAL NOUN. It can mean God-with-a-capital-G, but it can ALSO mean "gods." And in all likelihood, the "gods" (plural) meaning was exclusively how "Elohim" was used in the very ancient times before the Old Testament was written down. When Genesis says "God created the heavens and the earth," it's "Elohim" that appears there in the Hebrew original, and the passage could very easily have meant "The gods created the heavens and the earth," as though it were a team effort. Oh -- and did we mention that, archaeologically, Yahweh (the god of the Hebrews) was traditionally accompanied by his wife Ashera (another god)? This practice was condemned by Judean King Josiah in 2 Chronicles 34, who apparently wanted ONLY Yahweh to be worshipped.
what you say is interesting, but I would like to point out that he actually made a HUGE mistake in this part: I just re-read this verse (the one from Genesis in the adam and eve story) in the original hebrew, and what god says "one of me" not "one of us". somehow, the translation was messed up in english
5:21 *holds up an apple* you probably know what i'm gonna say about this me: "AN APPLE A DAY KEEPS THE DOCTOR AWAY" *talking about the forbidden fruit of paradise* me: "oh."
I actually thought he was going to talk about the story of Newton and the apple falling on his head giving him the idea for the theory on gravity. My mind wanders.
@im gawjus Yes, but the song is actually about the time Rome and the Vatican were sacked because an army of unpaid soldiers in the 1500s were close by, and the Swiss Guard, the Pope's band of elite sword bois, got obliterated trying to stop it.
In the Levant many of the Zoroaster faithful took up the cross as easy converts (it happened just about like he describes). But Christianity didn't become a dominant religion without State help. Islam crushed the Zoroastrian faith because it wasn't an Aberhamic faith. This all being said I see a lot of Zoroastrianism in Christianity and Sufi Islam. All you got to do is play the pronoun game.
The last thing this guy would say is something negative about Islam. If he has, someone please point me in the right direction. It is part of the leftist agenda to bash Christianity and fervently defend Islam.
The Moses one is tricky because actually Moses is the first one to throw his staff when he first meets God. But Aaron is the one who threw it in front of Pharaoh.
@@Jabberwockybird I gotta ask...what is the meaning behind the staff throwing? I can understand what's happening in the pharoah's palace, but I had never heard of the time that this guy just mentioned between moses and god, and now I'm wondering if the act of throwing your staff down meant something specific back then.
An interesting note about the Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden story, and the Forbidden Fruit. While today we think of an apple as a distinct kind of food, the original word itself (rendered as _apel_ ) or it's varied equivalents in all of the European languages actually just meant fruit/vegetable in general. In other words things like strawberries, or potatoes, or nectarines, or plums or peaches would all be considered apples. It was only in the early modern times, and well after the Renaissance, that it started to become a distinct kind of fruit. For example oranges, were originally just called citruses (in French _citron_ ). Or, depending on the specific region of Europe, "chinese apples" - because they were originally believed to come from China (an interestingly the etymology of the word "orange" itself comes from _neither_ the fruit _nor_ the color - but the _tree._ So what we call today and _orange_ was originally called an _apple of the orange tree_ ). A great example of this can be seen in French. In that language, the word for apple is _pomme._ Potatoes are called _pomme de terre_ - "apples of the earth" (because they grow in the ground, rather than from a fruiting tree). And the word _pomegranate_ is actually a composite of _pom/pomme_ and [indirectly] _granum/granatum_ (seeds) - meaning literally "the apple of many seeds". Which would make perfect sense for anyone who has ever eaten a pomegranate. This could have implications not just for the fruit in the Garden of Eden, but even things like the golden apples of Aphrodite in Greek myth.
That’s pretty recent and there are the old timey Torahs or the more original bible versions from before the councils of Nicaea or even those from right after
I know I'm late to this party, but I just discovered this channel like last week. But, that being said, it is important to remember that in the original Hebrew (or Aramaic, depending on the book you're reading), that Elohim (MYHLA) is plural, literally "gods," whereas El (LA) and He (YH) refer to one particular god or god-ish (god adjacent?) being. I have more, but I didn't want to bore you with more linguistics. Just want to stop and say that this has become my favorite channel, and I've only been watching it for maybe a week and a half.
For anyone interested - the word "rib" is not translated correctly. It means half of a two-part construction, usually a two-wing door. So basically Adam was split in half, thus came Eve. This whole thing is layered in symbolism most people miss.
The surest proof of a Creator God is the fact that all things are in balance. Chaos is a change between one point of balance and the next. Isn't it interesting that in all creation there are no dead ends?
As a Christian, I appreciate the way you went through this and loved the jokes along the way. You did a better job at teaching the Word than some preachers do. Keep it classy man.
As a Christian (and someone who has studied a decent bit of theology in depth), I appreciated portions of this video and found other portions pretty off-base from what most scholars agree on. The opening was a great reminder about Aaron/Moses! Super easy misconception. Most Christians (especially theologians) don't really attribute divine inspiration to things like Paradise Lost or Dante's Inferno, so I don't think it really fits to talk about the accounts within those in the same vein as accounts in the Bible. Lastly, God uses "we" multiple times in Genesis. This is precisely because of that Trinity bit you mentioned earlier though. The Bible doesn't really talk about these Gods as if they actually existed. It talks about them as falsities that have no real power (just look at Elijah vs Baal's prophets). There are actually a few times in the OT that Christ himself is believed to have shown up, including to Abraham, to Joshua, and in the fiery furnace with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Good video overall, but some items worthy of clarification in my perspective. :)
Exactly, thank you. He mentions the bit about how Paradise Lost and Dante's Inferno are pretty much Christian fanfiction, however I feel that needs to be driven home more.
I disagree. The Bible absolutely talks about other Gods as if they're real. Psalm 82 is the biggest evidence. Some people misinterpret this as "judges", but nowhere are these judges ever mentioned, making that interpretation wrong. In reality, these are Gods. Michael Heiser, a biblical scholar, has more than shown tons of evidence for this. Another piece of evidence is the good old question. If other Gods aren't real, who turned the Egyptian sorcerers staffs into snakes? Devil is mentioned nowhere in Exodus. They got their magic from somewhere. It was a competition between two competing pantheon, with God triumphing. Several Christian websites are recognizing this fact more and more, and are now henotheists rather than monotheistic, which still fits with the Bible. Your attempt to say "we" is the Trinity is anachronistic and a retcon. The OT was written by jewels, who don't believe in the Trinity. Neither do ☪️ who write nothing of it.
You also love how they are mocking the main person who represents the salvation and dying on the cross for humans and loving these blasphemous jokes? Hmm, wonder what school you’re going to....
max kukharchuk It is confusing if you delve into it, protestants have a thousand answers to that whole dynamic. The Catholic trinity was a compromise on many Perspectives of the early Christian churches. Confusing things are funny in the sense that you just can't make sense of the damned things!
James Kutkowski your delusional.... God doesn’t joke in the Bible and never showed a single verse in bible that would be a joke firs of all... second, this isn’t a joke, you gotta be really stupid to think he’s joking he’s clearly mocking Christianity and y’all are eating it. He’s an atheist that’s what they do... he’s from the world and you are sitting here and defending him? Jesus doesn’t not joke when sinners like we are joking about his nature.... use your brain...
Adam and Eve covered themselves with fig leaves I've always assumed the fruit was a fig. That is also why I assumed Jesus hated the Fig Tree so much as to be mad at it for not having grown figs out of season.
This type of video I'm very interested in. These stories helped create the western culture. My criticism is that it was sometimes hard for me to determine which of the stories you were relating were from the bible vs paradise lost.
No matter how many of these I watch, I smile all over again at how perfect those introductory animations illustrate what "knowing better" looks like! Perfect! and funny.
@@ajd2393 The birds exist in all translations. I think it even existed in the story of Utnapishtim in the Epic of Gilgamesh. My point was if he was pointing out Aarons rod and then claiming the birds aren't authentic his scholarship is a bit off. He implied the birds were not in the source and were a movie addition.
@@jhoughjr1 So depends on the source. Do remember that the Bible is literally one of the longest games of telephone that humans still somehow think is 100% accurate
A democracy is two wolves and one sheep voting on what's for dinner... This is why the USA is Republic - or a Constitutional Republic! It is also as bad as calling a leftist and liberal ... the USA is not a democracy.
@@drx1xym154 The U.S. isn't even a republic, it's a _democratic_ republic which is a pretty big difference that involves the principle underlying factor of the U.S. Constitution: the right to vote. If the U.S. were just a republic, there wouldn't be voting on who is in the Senate or the House. Instead, they would be picked by specific peoples or committees. At least, that was the intention; this obviously still occurs through money and power, especially at the State and Local levels, which are _crazy_ corrupt.
6:22, most people mostly drank plain water. You took it from your well, which most of the time worked out well enough. Leaking cesspits could contaminate the ground water, or leak into the well directly, so in towns there were problems with dysentery or cholera etc affecting notably those drinking from "a single well" in the 1854 Broad Street outbreak, which for example led to the proposal of the germ theory of disease. Drinking river water was less broadly a good idea, but as with modern 'less developed' societies this water is drunk directly with minimal ill-effect to those familiar with it. Probably best not to drink water discharged downstream of a tannery, fuller or dyer, or from shitbrook, but in the volume of the river the contamination was probably not too foul once the miasma of a large town had had time and space to disperse, or upstream from the largest settlements. In medieval times for example, a large town might only have a few thousand people (very large cities more and far worse pollution) - and had a desire to use the waste in industry and on the land as fertiliser more than to discharge it to the rivers directly. Urea as a mordant was valuable, and the nitrogen of animal and human waste and the waste products of grain production (straw, fresh, used, and eaten and excreted by cattle was nearly as valuable lb for lb as the grain crop itself). Wine, Ale, Beer and Cider are tastier than water, are more refreshing to drink, and yes, their production does aid treating local contaminants in the water... but this is advice for the traveller, rather than the local if at all. It is an exaggeration or outright fabrication IMO.
@@eliaslindmikkelsen5092 I have whittled away the rod of sin many an hour in contemplation of Remy Lacroix. I was just surprised I didn't even register until I went back through. I'll blame it on listening to this while typing.
I was reading the Bible the other day while at my sister’s piano concert (I was really really bored) and I read something about Noah sending out birds.
*Lucifer leaves Hell* Sin: "Okay then, close the door." Death: "um... Sin?" Sin: "Yeah?" Death: "It doesn't-- doesn't close..." Sin: "What?" Death: "It doesn't close!" Sin: "OMG what have you done!? You broke it!" Death: "I did, what you told me to do!" Sin: "Wait till Lucifer learns about it. OMG we're so screwed..." *Lucifer comes back from Heaven, sees the bridge to Earth* Lucifer: "What the hell is that? And why is the door still open?" Sin: "Well, you see, Lucifer, you're the most badass guy in the universe, so we figured, why have a door at all? In fact, why limit ourselves to this small town? The whole galaxy should belong to you, oh might one, and who would dare in their--" Lucifer: "Why does the handle not turn?" ... Lucifer: "Fucking morons. You had one job." *Lucifer leaves* Death: "I told you it weren't gonna work." Sin: "Shut up."
8:13 "when you picture lucifer in your mind, you either imagine him as someone who hit every branch of the ugly tree during his fall from heaven, or..." LOL
I'm not sure about your interpretation of the "us" part, dude (it is also blasphemy to different judaist strands), but I love all what you said. You're surely one of the few truth searching non-christian people I love and always will love to hear from. Keep doing this!
I honestly do enjoy all your videos even the ones I cringe at, the way you put things together and make it enjoyable without putting anyone down, makes them very enjoyable. I'm a conservative but watch alot of moderate to far left videos because, I like listening to the other sides view and I have had my mind change on certain things but I still consider myself conservative.
Same, Its actually listening to different point of views that I went from anarcho-capitalist ashiest, to conservative Orthodox Christian. Its kind of why I cringed when he uses the "us" passage of genesis to argue it wasn't referring to the trinity.
Fascinating, love it! I understand now where the myth of Lilith came from starting around 21:47. I've always understood Genesis 1 to be an overview and Genesis 2 then goes on to explain the human creation bit in more detail. "...in the image of God He created them, male and {eventually} female." Now that we've got that explanation out of the way, here's more. Chapter 2, let's go explore that human thing a bit.
Still, there are contradictions between Genesis one and two. In the first one, humans were created after everything else already existed, but, in the second one, man was created before animals and plants, and assigned the task of naming and guarding every creature. Then, woman was created from his rib. Also in Genesis one they are referred to as male and female and only told to reproduce, while on the second one they are referred to as man and woman (ish and isha in Hebrew), so they seem more human, in a way, while the first ones are more animalistic. Also God is referred to by a different name. So all these differences make it pretty obvious that these were, originally, different versions. The writing styles don't even match. There were originally two bibles, one for Judea and one for Israel, which were separate kingdoms since the reign of Rejabam, Shlomo's (Solomon's) son. Probably the person who united both bibles kept the two chapters for the reason you mentioned. An overview and a specific story.
@@tamikras9927 I'm confused, which versions or paraphrases are you mashing together? When I pick up the Tanakh and look through Genesis 1 and 2, all I see for the name of God is Elohim. Elohim is a plural which already references the Trinity, right from the start. Which other name are you referring to? But you also missed the whole point of Chapter 1 being an outline, then chapter 2 filling in details. It can be very confusing to the Western mind which likes to think logically and linearly. But step out side that box and it makes sense. God did not create all the animals in a snap of fingers. He lovingly created them one at a time. But it is not for the reader to care whether the aardvarks or zebras were created first. Rather, in 1:26 it is to note that while God created all the mammals and reptiles and insects in one day, the humans were the most important. In chapter 2 Moses then details how God did this amazing thing, with the dust and the rib. Again, we are not to care that rabbits are bucks and does or that cats are toms and mollies, but rather to know that we are not JUST male and female, but we have special names too, ish and isha. What sources are you referencing for the 2 different versions and how do the writing styles differ to you?
There is a reason why in the original Hebrew, whenever an Angel appears to a moral, the first words out of their mouths are "BE NOT AFRAID"
Exactly, I love that detail. It's essentially that we are unable to comprehend what we see since that's what it means to be a divine being. Essentially Lovecraftian horrors except they're not evil!
One angel can wipe out an entire army
I ruin the 69
mortal*
"BE NOT AFRAID"
"Gotta be honest with you...I have never been more afraid in my life"
"Aaron's staff swallowed up their staffs." This is biblical evidence of docking. Then later god forbade it and that's why they all had to get circumcised.
I wish I could upvote more than once.
I dont understand
Osiris Malkovich Circumcision started with Abraham who lived way before Moses
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O'k
*R O D*
I like this casual discussion of the biblical canon as if it where another fictional story instead of having to walk on eggshells to avoid blasphemy while discussing it. It makes all this really engaging.
"... as if it where another fictional story..." That's exactly what it is, as far as I am concerned.
@@thomaskositzki9424 It is a fictional story, for sure, but for many people it definitely isn't "just another one".
isn't he discussing "paradise lost" and it's b.i.b.l.e. fanfiction
It is a fictional story. Why wouldn't it be discussed in the same manner?
@@CarsonRH Because too many people take it seriously.
“-Build an Ark-“
*shows the Ark from Halo*
I see you are a man of culture as well
"To escape the flood"
*shows the Flood from Halo*
Yes; Yes he is.
"GALAX-----earth!"
The Great Journey begins with Halo
@@somedandy7694 were it so easy...
soooo.... who are the forerunners??? (dum-dum-dummmm)
“Not a lot of character development”
King David: “am I a joke to you?”
King David was an unequivocal badass. Also one of his Great-great Grandmas was a prostitute who helped the Israelites sack Jericho. Her name was Rahab, and she was also badass.
anonymousdratini David is a great example of a character being bestowed with incredible fate and destiny and still being incredibly flawed, much like humanity
he did just say not alot, not non-existent
I would call going from meek kid that killed a giant to renowned warrior to dickhead that gets a dude murdered so he can get away with impregnating said wife to be a pretty drastic arc if I do say so myself.
Hold my beer.
"It's just a list of events without a lot of character development"
Now I fully understand my storytelling style.
Arcs. They're called arcs, and it's something I wish someone had told me years ago. That's what separates a bunch of words from a story.
@@banananotebook3331 An arc is a part of a circle or a mover with a curving trajectory. I don't see what it has to do with anything. Please explain.
@@votethebulliesout2956Arc is a literature term that define the journey of a character in a story. With motivation, climax and resolution. They are called arcs because the tension rise and fall like a part of circle.
@@votethebulliesout2956 an Arc of suspense fore example where the tension/suspense heightens and falls similar to a circular arc or similar things
IE a diagram with an arc as the graph of suspense in the story
A video on religion? and it's neither hardline religious or atheist? maybe facebook was right and KB *is really* a moderate
"Wow! Incredible!" -Melee Announcer 2001
i dont think knowing better should go out of his way to be moderate. It's okay to be a leftist. Its okay to denounce religion. Not saying he has to, but knowing better shouldnt try to be neutral just because. He shouldn't apologize for something or someone just to seem moderate. He should go where facts lead him. And if the facts lead him left of center, i'm fine with that
To be an atheist only requires you to not be convinced of theism
in other words..........if you are not convinced a god or gods exists............that qualifies as being as atheist.
And if you don't know there's a god, you can't believe in one since you are not convinced
Doesn't say anything about if you believe in the supernatural or divinities or not.
A lot of Buddhists are atheists since they do not consider their icon to be a god.
Agnosticism is not middle ground between religious and atheist.............it refers to it being possible to know a god exists or not.
Doesn't say anything about belief or disbelief.
I just wish people would get these simple basic concepts right.
@@Nerdiness1985 ehhh, atheist derives from the greek root a, meaning without and theos, meaning god. so to be an atheist means to not believe in god, there is no "convincing", it's a concrete concept.
agnostic is derived from the english root a, meaning not, and greek root gnostic, meaning known. it's meaning is more of scepticism or doubt, than full on disbelief.
I'm not entirely for sure what you were saying, but I hope this helps iron out any problems people may have with the facts.
He is a moderate, and he's an atheist because he knows better. He just doesn't want to trigger peoples' backfire effect when they find out they're wrong and stupid.
Halo references made me happy, thanks
Same
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Hey, KB! The apple being the forbidden fruit might stem from the fact that in Latin the words for “evil” (_malum_) and “apple” (_mālum_) sounded similar, with the latter being a longer “a”. From here, people might have made the connection between the two and started referring to the forbidden fruit as apple. Interestingly enough, in Old English, apple (spelled “æpple”) referred to fruit in general, and then might have changed the meaning to mean the apple we know of specifically since it’s the representative fruit for Europeans. Similar thing can be applied to French word for apple “pomme” which came from Latin word “pomum” referring to any kind of fruit.
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Also, apples didnt "taste like dirt" prior to 1880, I have no idea where KB got that from. blatantly wrong
Off topic, but you may just have given the pun behind title of song, "Bad Apple!!" By ZUN.
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim it's not blatantly wrong, it's just an exaggeration. Pretty much everything tasted less sweet before modern times. For various reasons.
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim I'd guess he never got into a wikipedia rabbit hole of apple research and also never got to eat crabapples/wild apples. If anything apples were sour and tart AF.
The only fruit that I'd describe as tasting "like dirt" are asiatic pears, which DO taste earthy under all the sweet juice and DO look confusingly similar to freckled, pale gold apples. (I know that's how I ended up with one of those instead of a golden delicious once.) Maybe the asiatic pears' ancestors tasted more earthy and less sweetjuicy and he confused an apple pear with an apple in his research?
That or he confused a french thing for an apple thing: in french potatoes are called earth/ground apples (pommes de terre).
But I think we can all agree on one thing:
Prince of Egypt was good. Arguably one of DreamWorks' best films.
Agree
Such an underrated animated film. It's so beautiful
I love that movie and I'm an atheist. Wish more mainstream Christian films were like it, focused on telling a good story instead of preaching to the choir. It may get more people to watch them.
@@RoseEyed it's not christian but I agree
Moses: I did all the public speaking
Aaron: I'm gonna end this whole man's career
Ah... Mona Atkinson...
Nice
ThomasTurner69 💀
Kinda like Zedd and Matthew Koma
Your icon is horrifying
"Hell is a democracy"
Well there goes the plot of Hazbin Hotel.
I mean... Is that really a loss?
In Palpatine’s voice: I *love* democracy.
What i learned: Angels are either eldritch abominations or cute anime grills.
And weebs want both to shag em
or they're *g e o m e t r i c*
JollyJuice Ramiel Best girl
Evangelion was right
Depending on how you look at it
To be fair, there are quite a lot of implied climaxes in the 'begetting' part.
Underrated comment of the day.
Tru Dat!
Good sir you are a genius
12:55
-"So are you the son of God or are you God"
-"Yes"
I am completely fine with people believing in God or having faith. I don’t really care. But when someone does something horrible in their name, like attacking others for being who they are. It becomes a problem.
Also measuring Noah’s arc in football fields is very American.
Americans use anything other than football fields?
That second part is hilarious cuz it's TRUE.
For the first part, I think before it was taboo to talk about religion cuz it was = power or money. Then ppl began arguing over it. Then violence/backlash towards dissenters which is followed by more aggressive takedowns of religious figures. And now every thinks someone who criticizes something about a religion is out for blood. And that's a bad thing cuz then people talk about these things less.
TRE KRONOR HURRAA HURRAA HURRAA HURRAA!
TRpolit
People will always judge each other and thats the human nature
Some judge based on their own understanding and some based on a belief system they subscribe to
So you shouldn’t really be annoyed when a religious individual judges prostitutes or homosexuals
They are just doing what everyone else does
@@aManWhoWantsEverything No, it goes a couple steps further than that actually. Religious people hold a privileged status in society(both in the west and and mid-east) where they enforce their "judgment" in the form of legislation upon the non-religious.
So lets not pretend all they are doing is judging others.
Genesis 8:7-11 both a dove and a raven used, birds were used in the story of Noah
Brun
wanted to see if anyone would fact check him on this
So as Niphilim
@@vladys5238 7 and sent out a raven, and it kept flying back and forth until the water had dried up from the earth.8 Then he sent out a dove to see if the water had receded from the surface of the ground. 9 But the dove could find nowhere to perch because there was water over all the surface of the earth; so it returned to Noah in the ark. He reached out his hand and took the dove and brought it back to himself in the ark.10 He waited seven more days and again sent out the dove from the ark. 11 When the dove returned to him in the evening, there in its beak was a freshly plucked olive leaf! Then Noah knew that the water had receded from the earth.
In case anyone is curious but doesn't feel like looking it up.
Yeah just another example of somebody lying about the Bible just complete deceiver and then wonder why they're going to hell LOL cuz you're just lying to people I'm trying to trick them into going to hell with you that's fucked up and evil demonic the, parasitic the voice in their head is either the devil or spirits affecting their thinking or demons which could be parasites controlling them. It's like they have no conscience obviously which is Jesus Christ you see science and the Bible work together.
1:25 - IT WAS AARON! Thank you. I remembered my parents making it a point to tell me how wrong some movies were about the Moses account. Prince of Egypt was simply terrible (Biblically speaking) 5:00 - "None of that is in here." Actually, Noah DID send out two birds (a raven and a dove), and when the dove didn't come back, Noah assumed it found dry land. Also...Noah and his family were on the ark for 350 days, not merely 40. And the ark had a single window on the top. Yup. One single window. Ever wonder how Noah FED all those animals for a year and mucked out all those animal pens? Yeah...I wondered that too; and never got an answer from Biblical literature/apologists.
In some of those supposed modern recreations in the US (those are a thing, yes) iirc they use slatted floor and have multiple levels, so I wouldn’t want to be one of the animals at the bottom... just don’t think about it :D
Yeah, pretty disappointing that you got this wrong, KB. The dove thing definitely WAS in the Bible, in fact even the twig was in the Bible:
_"And behold, the dove returned to him in the evening with a freshly plucked olive leaf in her beak. So Noah knew that the waters had receded from the earth. And Noah waited seven more days and sent out the dove again, but this time she did not return to him.…"_
I always wondered why he even bothered with the birds. The ark had no way to steer it.
@@jdatlas4668 That explains what happened to the dragons.
The staff became a snake more than once. The first time, it was Moses who threw it down when God spoke to him at the burning bush. Exodus 4:1-5.
I prefer the Halo interpretation of the Bible
What?
@@matthewbrady9667 4:23 The ark and the flood have the same puspose both in the bible and the Halo videogame series.
"Hell is a democracy." Best line
Now does this imply that Democracy is hell as well?
@DaMudkip The detail itself implies that the author believes this, just as much as his choice of protagonist demonstrates that he believes this is infinitely better than allowing a single figure to rule by divine mandate. Given that he lived the hellish days of the first ‘democracy’ since the Romanii Res Publicum as it slowly failed to piece together how to exist without someone telling everyone else what to do, this should not be a surprise.
@Brian Szymczak Not... Exactly. The Torah was first written to codify the laws and traditions of a theocratic government that had recently been stomped out in Judea. The Bible was heavily influenced by Roman ideas of governance, about secular authorities placed in position by the actual will of the gods rather than by, well, old and smart people who do a lot of studying as the Jews believe (believed?). This carried over into the foundation of monarchy in Europe. So, while technically true that the Bible can be said to be a part of the fundamental concept of European monarchy, it doesn't actually... support it. No more than a letter from a 200 year old corpse can be said to support anything anyone is talking about today.
It's also hard to claim monarchy and democracy are opposites. Successful republics universally hate monarchs with a inter-generational passion, but that's more of a survival mechanism, as republics without such a belief very rapidly hand powers off to a single individual to increase short-term efficiency at the expense of long-term stability. There are opposing ideologies, sure, but these rarely translate into opposing systems of government. For an example of this: the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, a monarchal democratic parliamentary state.
Pure democracy is chaos. Chaos is a sign of worldly brokenness. This brokenness is from Sin. Coincidence? I think not.
+Kobe Okamoto That kinda depends on how you define ‘democracy,’ doesn’t it? If it’s just ‘any political system dependent on its citizenry’s votes to function,’ the way I think of it, then it can be a very orderly and coordinated thing even when it’s direct. If it’s ‘any political system where the broad populace can tangibly control the state as a collective’ then it is difficult to imagine any order surviving long unless that populace numbers less than 60,000. (Below that point you can know everyone through a friend, and such small groups have a very, very easy time coordinating on every level that exists for them, to the point of not even requiring a political system most of the time. (Picture a guy hearing about someone who just ran out of food and can’t afford more telling someone about it, who then tells someone else, and so on until a line of runners forms out of thin air to move food across town from the concerned person’s building.))
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Trey the Explainer has a pretty great series of videos on many of these confusing contradictions, at one point he addresses that there was originally TWO Torahs, one by Judea and one by Israel. When they were unified after the conquest of Babylon, these books were combined to create the contradictions we have.
It was also written by atleast 4 different people
Weird, since Israel is supposed to be the wicked one that was literally erased from history according to the Bible. It even mentions that all its 10 tribes were "lost"
@@vulpes7079 To say the tribes themselves were lost is a little oversimplification. Essentially they all intermixed to the point that ten tribes became one nation.
He similarly has a video on Lilith, and how there’s not much evidence that she was a “first woman,” but rather just an Iron Age monster from the levant whose cultural significance and nature has been lost and telephoned over the millennia
that sounds like the Talmud, which has two versions, from Jerusalem and Babylon.
Oh, well, if he's verified, Jesus must be real.
Zzyzx Wolfe check, mate, atheists
@@mueezadam8438 I'm glad someone finally found good evidence for Jesus.
Now we can dispense with the other shitty arguments I keep hearing.. they were getting old.
Oh, he is and so is the devil.
For funsies- Jesus lived, that is indisputable as far as historic facts are concerned. The real question is of his deification rather than his existence. From what little the NIV/KJV (Bible) tells us of his life, Jesus was a couch surfing hippy, one who believed in the rule of law and social order, but also in providing for the poor and the infirm, champion of the Golden Rule, and opponent of those who hoard wealth while others go without. In short, a premedieval Bernie Sanders.
@@Lawrence330 "Jesus lived, that is indisputable as far as historic facts are concerned." Citation needed.
The word apple used to be a catch all phrase for all fruit. So it was likely a communication issue that led to the rumor about an apple.
Taking from Wikipedia
"In Western Europe, the fruit was often depicted as an apple. This was possibly because of a misunderstanding of - or a pun on - mălum, a native Latin noun which means evil (from the adjective malus), and mālum, another Latin noun, borrowed from Greek μῆλον, which means apple. In the Vulgate, Genesis 2:17 describes the tree as de ligno autem scientiae boni et mali : "but of the tree [literally wood ] of knowledge of good and evil" (mali here is the genitive of malum)."
Also, the fruit of the tree of knowledge is called apple since 11th century.
Even Milton also called it as the apple.
Nah it was a Chorus Fruit
I was going to mention something similar. The term "apple" in a lot of Western European languages (specifically Germanic ones) was a generic term for fruit not native to the region, with some languages' words for "orange" literally translating to something along the lines of "Chinese apple (i.e. fruit)". I think Swedish is one of those languages, but I could be wrong (I'm just going off memory right now)
I'd like to agree that "apple" was just a synonym for "fruit" (and "fruit" itself might only have meant "results"). That's why we have pineapple, loveapple, and crab apple. In French, potato is "pomme de terre", literally earth apple.
So, in the time of King James (and earlier), "apple" would have been a correct word. But language has changed since then, so we should probably be saying "fruit", and leaving "apple" for what we used to call "pomme".
Damn, so "Aaron's" since the beginning of time have been getting the "shaft" even before the key and Peele skit...
It's okay. Most of the Aaron's I know I great at handling shafts and rods.
The only Aaron I remember had an itchy trigger finger.
4:58 no, that actually happens. Noah sends out a raven and a dove to come back with an olive leaf.
Maybe it isn't stated in the king james version
Mahad Omar Genesis 8:10-11 KJV: “And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf plucked off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.”
@@cousinjimmy2638 If only that's what humans did. But the 'original' texts if you can even call it that were bastardized and pruned to be what is preached today. Catholicism doesn't even take it out, it just chooses what to believe and what not to from what is written.
Religion is stupid, and thus are the people who propagate it.
James Kutkowski you know what's even more stupid? Taking the bait
@harrythebarry I mean, there's no reason to believe in a God, don't sure if that counts as stupid or not.
Genesis 8: 6-12. Noah using birds to find land.
Was looking for that comment
I thought for sure the bird thing was in there, so I googled it... sure enough, Genesis 8: 6-12. Thankfully there are already dozens of comments already pointing out this mistake. He doesn't seem interested in correcting it though, meh who needs credibility?
@@Wendy_O._Koopa He mentioned it in another video of his.
Andrew Rawlings Agreed, he made a lot if mistakes here tbh, nonetheless i appreciate the video, still interesting
Yeah, thanks, I WAS DISTURBED by that bit.
This is publicly available knowledge. Watching this, along with your other videos, it strains my mind to understand how people still want to believe in Christianity when it's so blatantly wrong.
"Noah was a drunk, and look what he accomplished."
- The Metatron
I mean, Lot was a drunk too...
... but did Noah accomplish those things despite being a drunk or because of it?
"Build a giant boat for a bunch of aminals? Why not, not like I got summfing elf to do."
Did my karma just literally run over your Dogma?
Only in Fiction
@@tskmaster3837 I don't know, putting thousands of different animals on a 150 meter boat sounds *very* believable.... /s
@@Chip-Chapley oh the incest
"It's always been Aaron's rod." - Knowing Better Guy, 2019.
And he first pronounced it the way it's done in a Key and Peele Sketch. This dude, is a hardcore nerd, love it.
Actually the reason Aaron was there was because he actually did most of the speaking for Moses, because Moses burnt his tongue and a young age which also has some juicy backstory
Do tell?
@@lu.ciel8770now there may be some inaccuracies because I don’t know the story by heart so take it with a grain of salt:
So when Moses was a baby and was first adopted by the Egyptian Royals, they had to have him tested to see if he was worthy of being in the family. The test set up by the Pharaoh’s advisors was this one: Moses will be presented with a piece of hot charcoal, and a piece of gold. Whichever he grabs will tell the royals what type of person Moses will be. Now this was basically a rigged test, because baby see shiny rock, baby touch shiny rock. So Moses went for the gold, but before he got to it an Angel moved his hand towards the charcoal. Moses was caught off guard, burnt his hand, and instinctively put it in his mouth, which ironically just burnt his tongue as well. Even though he now had a speech impediment, the test showed the Pharaoh that Moses was special in a way he did not yet understand.
@@burper-oe6tm idk the kid grabs the burning coal, feels the painful heat in his hand and the next move is to shove it in his mouth? Not the brightest lightbulb in the box xD
@@lu.ciel8770 I mean if you feel pain/burning in your hand what would you do
My favorite version of the Bible is the LEGO one
lmao i feel that
That’s a thing!?! What’s it called!?! I love LEGOs!😃
@@stephenking5852 Google it, it's really fuckin weird
The fallout bible is my favorite
Man the LEGO bible is the shit
"Do you know the Story of the Fruit of Knowledge, It's not a story the Angels would tell you..."
is it possible to get this fruit?
"Let's take a look at the official, original: King James version."
Oh I am laffin
I know right?
Jame is too
4:10 "For those of you, who do not use cubits..."
Me, part of an international audience: That's me!
"Let's use inches and football fields."
Me: Please no!
Ste_Ven_ a cubit is about 46 cm, and a football field is about 91.5 meters
It's the distance from your elbow to the tip of your longest finger. 18" was just a standardized version of it. Happier?
Ugghhh!!! Why do these stupid comments always float up to the top like toilet diarrhea. Use google or do simple math. People have to brag about their stupidity and ignorance (wahh! English measurements are too difficult!!! boohoo!)
@@andrewroberts5988 Imagine getting this upset about someone asking a genuine question about measurements they rarely if ever use in other countries. Yikes
@@andrewroberts5988 Yo dude, don't drag the English into your weird rant about USA units, keep those old backward measurements to yourselves (and oddly Liberia and Myanmar!).
I'm British and we don't inches or football fields, like at all.
We use centimetres, metres, double-decker buses or football PITCHES to measure length (Yes PITCHES! We play proper football that you use for feet for, on a pitch, not a field).
Metres, Nelson's Columns or Blackpool Towers for height.
Square metres, football PITCHES or the country of Wales for area.
And Litres, Cubic metres, Olympic sized swimming pools or the Royal Albert Hall for volume.
Perfectly simple and easy to understand for anyone :)
I recently have been trying to read the Hebrew Bible out of curiosity. The biggest shocker for me was how short the Tower of Babel story is. It was like a page long. It was also much less elaborate then I was thought as a child. I also realized that I was told an incomplete version of the story of Abraham as a child. A lot of children's version cut out some key moments in it.
Right?? And how much violence is contained in it. I grew up Catholic and they focused a lot on Jesus and forgiveness. Forgot to talk about Sodom, or when Isaac was put forth as a child sacrifice until god said “jk I’m good w lamb”
@@vt8414I grew up around baptists pretty sure their version was an angel made him stop not god himself
God saying “us” is usually interpreted as a reference to the Trinity, at least in my experience.
Which is wrong, the trinity was thought up in the middle ages, but yes, that is what people use to justify it nowadays. That theory falls apart pretty fast if you actually know any of the language and check out the earlier versions of the text, like the septuagint and lx versions.
In the Quran, God also refers to himself in (we, us), but also as (he, him) which means that Allah might be doing it to prevent people from gendering him as a male, similar to how people today use (they)
@@aws96314 that is a very modern way to look at it, which is not faithful to the ancient Hebrew context. Like he mentioned in the video, it was either referring to other lesser Gods of which Yahweh was the supreme God, or it refers to the legions of angels around him in heaven.
@@Iamwrongbut I was talking about the Quran in Arabic. In Arabic (classical) the male singular form and the male plural form can be used to refer to males, as well as, anything that can not or should not be gendered.
@@aws96314 right. I was trying to say that if you apply the same logic to Hebrew which doesn’t follow those customs then you are imposing something on the text that isn’t native to its specific Hebrew context. Sorry for the confusion!
How I imagine the serpent talking to Eve after watching this vid:
Did you ever hear the tragedy of archangel Lucifer the bright?
I thought not. It's not a story the Lord would tell you. It's a Jewish legend. Lucifer was an Archangel of the Lord, so powerful and so wise he could use the snake to influence the humans to eat a fruit.
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If you ever need to look up paintings of the "temptation of Eve" - make sure to turn safe search on.
Correction: The part of the Noah's Ark story where they send out birds to find dry land does happen in Genesis 8. It's written after the ark settles on dry land.
No ur wrong
Hey nice video hope you liked making it
bro whats up with all the remy lacroix pictures? she been turnin you on recently?
you should do a video on the differences between islamic and christan narratives
I liked the halo references.
I just discovered this channel a few days ago. You are so binge-able. I wish you were my co-worker so I could just listen to you all day lol. Tired of hearing the same tired old politics and "history" I hear at work. I love the way you present information and how unbiased it seems.
this is a weird explanation for Evangelion
Are you saying the person talking wasn't Gendo?
Jk, jk-
It's 4 years late right now. Also, why isn't Kira ruling the world and making sure we're behaving lest we be Death Noted?
I literally just understood why Adam's (life) and Lilith's (knowledge) children were at war, or at least I think that's why. Evangelion is confusing...
Which book of the Bible has the hospital scene?
That reminds me of the beginning of the Fairly OddParents episode where Timmy's dad is in a hospital bed watching a video of someone getting crushed by a wall and saying that it's his favorite "Bible video". I thought it was interesting that he said "Bible" in a secular cartoon, but then I learned that the show's creator, Butch Hartman, is a Christian.
tl;dr: A few rough spots imo but great job overall.
I’ve studied the Bible hardcore most of my life and I have three comments about this:
1. I wish you’d been a little clearer about what’s Genesis and what’s Milton. I feel like that section would be super confusing for people who don’t already know the source material. Something like the asterisk thing you’ve done before or different color overlays or whatever would have been nice.
2. Re Noah and the birds: That definitely is in Genesis. Chapter 8, verses 6-13 describe it very clearly.
3. Despite all of the above, I think you did an admirable job with this. I disagree strongly with your interpretation of some points but I always appreciate when common misconceptions are corrected and you did a good job of hitting some of the biggest ones. Keep up the good work!
What's the source of angelic jeriarchies?
@@mrpalaces The Bible has very little to say on this subject. Certainly angels are discussed quite a bit, but there are only a few very minor implications here and there of any possible hierarchy among them, and nothing at all in terms of specific outlines or descriptions, or even a definitive statement that it exists. Most of what some people believe about it comes from later writers such as Thomas Aquinas, Dante Alighieri, and yes, John Milton.
it has a basis in jewish oral tradition
wich btw is as valid as scripture
@@thadeusgaspar224 Absolutely true. I didn't mention this because I was thinking of Christian traditions, but of course many of those come ultimately from Jewish traditions. Thank you for making this excellent point.
Also, my intention wasn't to contrast the content of the Bible with that of other sacred writings/teachings. I only meant to contrast it with secular or, at the very least, non-sacred writings such as Milton's poems. I apologize if that wasn't clear.
What points do you disagree with?
The Pomegranate as the tool of temptation actually makes a lot of sense, given that in Greek mythology, eating a Pomegranate (or part of one) was what caused Persephone to have to spend half the year in the Underworld as the wife of Hades, which makes her mother Demeter so sad that she kills all the plants and turns the Earth to winter until her daughter returns to Olympus in the spring.
“Are you the son of God or are you God?”
“Yes.”
[2:50] ”The official, original King James Version..."
Just 2-3 thousand years after the actual original text. But okay.
zach b depends on which part of the Bible you are referring to.
I think it's a joke, poking fun at some American Protestants treating it that way and rejecting newer translations.
@@jeremiahduran7238
Exodus specifically, Old Testament generally. I did use a thousand years span.
@@Artur_M. I'm inclined to agree with you. But no voice nor nonverbal queues be of sarcasm :-(
@Psywriter
What value does it serve in this context? He's trying to demonstrate that Moses didn't do the magic trick. Why is checking the "first English version" effective in that?
By the way, I looked it up and KJV isn't the first English one. It was about 75 years too late for that honor. But with the force of a King behind it, it is certainly the most popular English version--55% of Americans Bible readers.
That John Martin painting of Pandemonium is incredible. I’d totally have it on my living room wall
I want to point out the fact that they did send birds out to find dry land afterwards. I'm Jewish, and so all of this comes from the Torah (which are the first five books of the Tanakh, the Hebrew Bible, aka the old testament), but I don't know how you got the fact that they didn't send out the birds. Sure, it's not exactly clear that their only purpose is to scout out dry land, but the story basically goes Noah sends out a raven to travel back and forth and keep him updated on the levels of the waters. Then he sends out a dove to see if the "waters had abated" or not, which they handed because the dove came back without finding a "resting place for the sole of its foot." Seven days later, he sends the dove back and it returns with an olive leaf (this part is not entirely clear, but the dove found dry land). That's all in the source material, it's possible the Tanakh was simplified over the years as the old testament, but for us Jews, that's the story we tell and it comes from the text. It's also worth mentioning that "clean" or Kosher animals went on the ark in seven pairs, whereas the "unclean" or non-Kosher animals were just one pair.
Isn't it ripped off from the Book of Gilgamesh anyway? The only difference being that in the Bible God is responsible for flooding the earth while in the Book of Gilgamesh it's one God who causes it while others warn, well, Noah (who isn't called Noah but I don't remember his name lmao) to get in the fucking boat and take all types of animals with him. While the flood is happening, all the Gods except for the one who caused it are lamenting and crying over humans suffering. Also the bird stuff happens as well.
I like to compare those stories because even though those preancient civilisations are looked on as barbaric but their Gods seemed to actually care for people and get emotional over them being hurt while Old Testament's God IS the reason behind people's suffering. Kinda weird if you take the atheist, cynical standpoint and think that whoever wrote this story down to put it in the Bible must have been deliberately trying to make his God in his version look like a dick. It's literally like an edgy fan fiction with the same story but more cruel protagonist.
@@aw2584 in the epic of Gilgamesh, the gods, lead by Enlil, decide to punish humanity for effectively making to much noise, with the only surviving human, Utnapishtim, only being saved because one of the gods, Ea, took pity on humanity. They only started weeping after fleeing and the flood had killed everyone. The mesopotamian gods are generally seen as erratic and frequently threw temper tantrums because that's what floods and therefore harvests were like on the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. By the end of Utnapishtims story, Ea accuses Enlil of being to harsh and Utnapishtim is granted immortality. I don't think this shows the Abrahamic god to be more cruel, but instead more consistent, less chaotic, and less selfish, at least in comparison with the conflict-riddled mesopotamian gods.
"asks if there are life on other planets" Huh. That's actually pretty interesting to hear that they wondered this very thing back then.
It's a byproduct of the heliocentric model. When you use the geocentric model and all the planets (including the Sun and the Moon) are just earth's satellites, you assume that they are just like Sun and Moon, uninhabitable balls of nothing. But when you switch to heliocentric, the implied assumption is that Earth is just like other planets and therefore other planets may be similar to Earth enough to host a life of their own.
26:21 : "God (capital G) is only the god of the Hebrews. Everyone else has their own gods, and they're free to worship them as they please."
It's even more complicated than that. The Hebrew name of the God of the Hebrews is "Yahweh" (YHWH), but the Hebrew word for God is "Elohim", and BOTH words are used throughout the Old Testament -- sometimes interchangeably, sometimes not. Worse, did you notice that "Elohim" ends in an "-im"? That's how Hebrew forms its plurals. "Elohim" is a PLURAL NOUN. It can mean God-with-a-capital-G, but it can ALSO mean "gods."
And in all likelihood, the "gods" (plural) meaning was exclusively how "Elohim" was used in the very ancient times before the Old Testament was written down. When Genesis says "God created the heavens and the earth," it's "Elohim" that appears there in the Hebrew original, and the passage could very easily have meant "The gods created the heavens and the earth," as though it were a team effort.
Oh -- and did we mention that, archaeologically, Yahweh (the god of the Hebrews) was traditionally accompanied by his wife Ashera (another god)? This practice was condemned by Judean King Josiah in 2 Chronicles 34, who apparently wanted ONLY Yahweh to be worshipped.
Man, I had never heard of that last bit before, and the implications of it are insane. Shows that you _can_ get useful stuff in the comments, I guess.
But where did you get that information?
@@Josep_Hernandez_LujanMm, yes, a very valid source.
Inspiration to research
what you say is interesting, but I would like to point out that he actually made a HUGE mistake in this part: I just re-read this verse (the one from Genesis in the adam and eve story) in the original hebrew, and what god says "one of me" not "one of us". somehow, the translation was messed up in english
5:21 *holds up an apple* you probably know what i'm gonna say about this
me: "AN APPLE A DAY KEEPS THE DOCTOR AWAY"
*talking about the forbidden fruit of paradise*
me: "oh."
I actually thought he was going to talk about the story of Newton and the apple falling on his head giving him the idea for the theory on gravity. My mind wanders.
Why did you shout at the screen
I really thought of that too😫😔
Honestly thought he was gonna jump into the history of McIntosh or something. Obviously, he and I were both way off base in our assumptions.
i honestly thought he was going to say it wasnt a fuji apple
Me: Non religious
Me seeing how fine some of the angels look: *FOR THE GRACE, FOR THE MIGHT OF OUR LORD*
@im gawjus
Yes, but the song is actually about the time Rome and the Vatican were sacked because an army of unpaid soldiers in the 1500s were close by, and the Swiss Guard, the Pope's band of elite sword bois, got obliterated trying to stop it.
I'm assuming you're talking about the cherubim?
So many referances
Those thrones making me act up
when the video ended I got an ad titled
"How Christianity Adopted Pagan Practices and Holidays"
interesting
Adam and Eve are Irish confirmed!
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Potatoes are native to the Americas and only available to Europe after "discovery". Now, you know better.
Adam and Eve? :(
Ádhamh agus Éabha? :)
27:30 - No, Zoroastrianism faded away because Islam took over Persia.
Zoroastrianism has survived into the modern period, but definitely Islam struck the mightier blow. Also Manichaeism. Just saying.
In the Levant many of the Zoroaster faithful took up the cross as easy converts (it happened just about like he describes). But Christianity didn't become a dominant religion without State help.
Islam crushed the Zoroastrian faith because it wasn't an Aberhamic faith. This all being said I see a lot of Zoroastrianism in Christianity and Sufi Islam. All you got to do is play the pronoun game.
The last thing this guy would say is something negative about Islam. If he has, someone please point me in the right direction. It is part of the leftist agenda to bash Christianity and fervently defend Islam.
@@kamikazesoviet : Why are you even here? Shouldn't you be listening to Rush Limbaugh bloopers?
Eric Channer Please don’t cry.
“But when I gave that information to Poe the Wonder Cat, this twink stud muffin is what I got” has to be the best sentence I’ve ever heard
The Jesus cameo was amazing.
He totally nailed it!
@@piranha031091 I'm dead hahahgha
The Moses one is tricky because actually Moses is the first one to throw his staff when he first meets God. But Aaron is the one who threw it in front of Pharaoh.
Good point
@@Jabberwockybird I gotta ask...what is the meaning behind the staff throwing? I can understand what's happening in the pharoah's palace, but I had never heard of the time that this guy just mentioned between moses and god, and now I'm wondering if the act of throwing your staff down meant something specific back then.
@@stinkytoy Not sure. It may just have been putting it on the ground so that when it turned into a snake, it's already there on the ground.
@@Jabberwockybird Ah alrighty. Thanks for getting back to me a whole year later 😁
An interesting note about the Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden story, and the Forbidden Fruit. While today we think of an apple as a distinct kind of food, the original word itself (rendered as _apel_ ) or it's varied equivalents in all of the European languages actually just meant fruit/vegetable in general. In other words things like strawberries, or potatoes, or nectarines, or plums or peaches would all be considered apples. It was only in the early modern times, and well after the Renaissance, that it started to become a distinct kind of fruit.
For example oranges, were originally just called citruses (in French _citron_ ). Or, depending on the specific region of Europe, "chinese apples" - because they were originally believed to come from China (an interestingly the etymology of the word "orange" itself comes from _neither_ the fruit _nor_ the color - but the _tree._ So what we call today and _orange_ was originally called an _apple of the orange tree_ ).
A great example of this can be seen in French. In that language, the word for apple is _pomme._ Potatoes are called _pomme de terre_ - "apples of the earth" (because they grow in the ground, rather than from a fruiting tree). And the word _pomegranate_ is actually a composite of _pom/pomme_ and [indirectly] _granum/granatum_ (seeds) - meaning literally "the apple of many seeds". Which would make perfect sense for anyone who has ever eaten a pomegranate.
This could have implications not just for the fruit in the Garden of Eden, but even things like the golden apples of Aphrodite in Greek myth.
Knowing Better: “Let’s take a look at the official, original, King James Version”
All the Jews: “Sure whatever you say buddy”
exactly what i thought.
@@MrGamelover23 Not necessarily...
He meant original as opposed to The New King James Version.
That’s pretty recent and there are the old timey Torahs or the more original bible versions from before the councils of Nicaea or even those from right after
There is also the Ethiopian bible
Its nice to see another (personably) Halo fan out there and to be so intelligent and well mannered.
And pretty good looking too 🥴
I know I'm late to this party, but I just discovered this channel like last week. But, that being said, it is important to remember that in the original Hebrew (or Aramaic, depending on the book you're reading), that Elohim (MYHLA) is plural, literally "gods," whereas El (LA) and He (YH) refer to one particular god or god-ish (god adjacent?) being.
I have more, but I didn't want to bore you with more linguistics. Just want to stop and say that this has become my favorite channel, and I've only been watching it for maybe a week and a half.
For anyone interested - the word "rib" is not translated correctly. It means half of a two-part construction, usually a two-wing door.
So basically Adam was split in half, thus came Eve. This whole thing is layered in symbolism most people miss.
Damn, Shin Megami Tensei gets its mythology right more than most people ever do
I see you, fellow SMT enthusiast. ;)
@@SamSmithsamek15 SMT is amazing and I'm only mad that it's taken me so long to get into it.
@@neoqwerty I'm proud of you ^__^
Finally, someone who gets it
The surest proof of a Creator God is the fact that all things are in balance. Chaos is a change between one point of balance and the next. Isn't it interesting that in all creation there are no dead ends?
Emperor Snakatine: "Do it."
Evakin Skywalker: "Should I do it?"
Emperor Snakatine: "Do it. Eat 'em."
Emperor Snakatine: "I am the Seraphim!"
Evakin Skywalker: "What?"
Emperor Snakatine: "Nothing.. nothing.. eat up!"
As a Christian, I appreciate the way you went through this and loved the jokes along the way. You did a better job at teaching the Word than some preachers do. Keep it classy man.
"Imagine that, Hell is a democracy."
Too soon. I just made it through the 2021 inauguration. These last few months...
"A-a-Ron" I understood that reference
Renso Daniel Del Castillo Vega hot fuzz yea?
You done messed up!
insubordinate and churlish
Damnit, Reensoh, get your ass down to Principal Oh'Shawn-hennesy's office.
@@matthiasnagorski8411 “you mean Principal O’Shannesy?” “Get down there!”
Wait, so Satan is literally “The Bad Guy”?
Hes the seduce your dad type
duh
@@coffeestainedwreck Not "duh" he means not that Satan is the villain of the story, but that the name *_means_* "The Bad Guy".
So quick to insult...
James J I don’t think you understand buddy
@@ctgslayer Satan, Shai'tan, The Adversary. Yes, yes I actually do.
You should maybe get educated on the religion if you're going to discuss it.
As a Christian (and someone who has studied a decent bit of theology in depth), I appreciated portions of this video and found other portions pretty off-base from what most scholars agree on.
The opening was a great reminder about Aaron/Moses! Super easy misconception.
Most Christians (especially theologians) don't really attribute divine inspiration to things like Paradise Lost or Dante's Inferno, so I don't think it really fits to talk about the accounts within those in the same vein as accounts in the Bible.
Lastly, God uses "we" multiple times in Genesis. This is precisely because of that Trinity bit you mentioned earlier though. The Bible doesn't really talk about these Gods as if they actually existed. It talks about them as falsities that have no real power (just look at Elijah vs Baal's prophets). There are actually a few times in the OT that Christ himself is believed to have shown up, including to Abraham, to Joshua, and in the fiery furnace with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.
Good video overall, but some items worthy of clarification in my perspective. :)
Exactly, thank you. He mentions the bit about how Paradise Lost and Dante's Inferno are pretty much Christian fanfiction, however I feel that needs to be driven home more.
@@thefabulouskitten7204
See my response to the guy you're replying to
I disagree.
The Bible absolutely talks about other Gods as if they're real. Psalm 82 is the biggest evidence. Some people misinterpret this as "judges", but nowhere are these judges ever mentioned, making that interpretation wrong. In reality, these are Gods. Michael Heiser, a biblical scholar, has more than shown tons of evidence for this. Another piece of evidence is the good old question. If other Gods aren't real, who turned the Egyptian sorcerers staffs into snakes? Devil is mentioned nowhere in Exodus. They got their magic from somewhere. It was a competition between two competing pantheon, with God triumphing.
Several Christian websites are recognizing this fact more and more, and are now henotheists rather than monotheistic, which still fits with the Bible.
Your attempt to say "we" is the Trinity is anachronistic and a retcon. The OT was written by jewels, who don't believe in the Trinity. Neither do ☪️ who write nothing of it.
I’m a Christian theological scholar, and I love how you explain all these concepts! A lot of things most Christians don’t know! 😊
You also love how they are mocking the main person who represents the salvation and dying on the cross for humans and loving these blasphemous jokes? Hmm, wonder what school you’re going to....
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It is confusing if you delve into it, protestants have a thousand answers to that whole dynamic.
The Catholic trinity was a compromise on many Perspectives of the early Christian churches.
Confusing things are funny in the sense that you just can't make sense of the damned things!
Ratchet4647 okay what does that have anything to do with my comment? I don’t get it
James Kutkowski your delusional.... God doesn’t joke in the Bible and never showed a single verse in bible that would be a joke firs of all... second, this isn’t a joke, you gotta be really stupid to think he’s joking he’s clearly mocking Christianity and y’all are eating it. He’s an atheist that’s what they do... he’s from the world and you are sitting here and defending him? Jesus doesn’t not joke when sinners like we are joking about his nature.... use your brain...
This is peak Knowing Better. Thank you for your hard work, it really shows.
Adam and Eve covered themselves with fig leaves I've always assumed the fruit was a fig. That is also why I assumed Jesus hated the Fig Tree so much as to be mad at it for not having grown figs out of season.
This type of video I'm very interested in. These stories helped create the western culture. My criticism is that it was sometimes hard for me to determine which of the stories you were relating were from the bible vs paradise lost.
I'm surprised you didn't throw in a mention of Gilgamesh when discussing Noah
No matter how many of these I watch, I smile all over again at how perfect those introductory animations illustrate what "knowing better" looks like! Perfect! and funny.
Hearing you call someone a “twink studmuffin” just killed me
Birds being sent out to find land IS in the story. Gen 8, 8-12
Didn't he say it depends on what version you are looking at?
@@ajd2393 The birds exist in all translations. I think it even existed in the story of Utnapishtim in the Epic of Gilgamesh. My point was if he was pointing out Aarons rod and then claiming the birds aren't authentic his scholarship is a bit off. He implied the birds were not in the source and were a movie addition.
Yeah but people get the birds bit wrong all the time
@@jhoughjr1 So depends on the source. Do remember that the Bible is literally one of the longest games of telephone that humans still somehow think is 100% accurate
@@gemain609 He literally just proves it does not depend on the source and that it can be found in the Epic of Gilgamesh, a story older than the Bible.
As an Aaron who grew up in fundyland, midwest, USA, you know I was cracking up reading passages about my rod way back when.
"...Talk about how Eve *Remy picture appears* is pretty, and nice to look at..." Ah, I see. A fellow man of culture, it would seem.
Who is remy
@@abacot5177 that's Riley Reid.
@@adrianneosa1490 it's Remy Lacroix, my dear.
@@Wadborz ahh. I was looking at the wrong time. My mistake.
"Imagine that, Hell is a democracy..."
There's political commentary in there somewhere, but let's just leave it at what it might be. :3
A democracy is two wolves and one sheep voting on what's for dinner...
This is why the USA is Republic - or a Constitutional Republic!
It is also as bad as calling a leftist and liberal ... the USA is not a democracy.
@@drx1xym154 The U.S. isn't even a republic, it's a _democratic_ republic which is a pretty big difference that involves the principle underlying factor of the U.S. Constitution: the right to vote. If the U.S. were just a republic, there wouldn't be voting on who is in the Senate or the House. Instead, they would be picked by specific peoples or committees. At least, that was the intention; this obviously still occurs through money and power, especially at the State and Local levels, which are _crazy_ corrupt.
Chaos v. Order? Lawful Neutral v. Chaotic Good?
@@drx1xym154 a republic is a type of democracy. We just aren’t a pure democracy
@@TheBigRedskull Not really it's usually more of an oligarchy
6:22, most people mostly drank plain water. You took it from your well, which most of the time worked out well enough.
Leaking cesspits could contaminate the ground water, or leak into the well directly, so in towns there were problems with dysentery or cholera etc affecting notably those drinking from "a single well" in the 1854 Broad Street outbreak, which for example led to the proposal of the germ theory of disease.
Drinking river water was less broadly a good idea, but as with modern 'less developed' societies this water is drunk directly with minimal ill-effect to those familiar with it.
Probably best not to drink water discharged downstream of a tannery, fuller or dyer, or from shitbrook, but in the volume of the river the contamination was probably not too foul once the miasma of a large town had had time and space to disperse, or upstream from the largest settlements.
In medieval times for example, a large town might only have a few thousand people (very large cities more and far worse pollution) - and had a desire to use the waste in industry and on the land as fertiliser more than to discharge it to the rivers directly. Urea as a mordant was valuable, and the nitrogen of animal and human waste and the waste products of grain production (straw, fresh, used, and eaten and excreted by cattle was nearly as valuable lb for lb as the grain crop itself).
Wine, Ale, Beer and Cider are tastier than water, are more refreshing to drink, and yes, their production does aid treating local contaminants in the water... but this is advice for the traveller, rather than the local if at all. It is an exaggeration or outright fabrication IMO.
as someone of Irish origin.
I can 100% confirm I would be in fact. tempted by a raw potato...
I'd really like to starve the Irish of potatoes again.
Loving the christian mythology dude, i've always had a strong curiousity towards angels and demons and such, keep up the awesome videos!
There are other sick creatures in the bible like leviathans, dragons, many winged serathims and much more
Fun fact from a Hebrew speaker: Malakhim literally directly translates to “Angels” in Hebrew
Was surprised by seeing Remy Lacroix in a video about christianity
Well now I gotta watch it.
Same
Wait shit how did I miss this
@@OlOleander you haven't sinned as much as i have
@@eliaslindmikkelsen5092 I have whittled away the rod of sin many an hour in contemplation of Remy Lacroix. I was just surprised I didn't even register until I went back through. I'll blame it on listening to this while typing.
There had not been any videos in about 3 weeks I was worried; it's good to see that you're OK.
Yeah, it turns out he spent all his time reading classic religious literature. You know, some light reading.
I was reading the Bible the other day while at my sister’s piano concert (I was really really bored) and I read something about Noah sending out birds.
Dude. Your production value has shot through the roof. If I had spare money, I would absolutely become a patron. Keep it up, proud of ya!
*Lucifer leaves Hell*
Sin: "Okay then, close the door."
Death: "um... Sin?"
Sin: "Yeah?"
Death: "It doesn't-- doesn't close..."
Sin: "What?"
Death: "It doesn't close!"
Sin: "OMG what have you done!? You broke it!"
Death: "I did, what you told me to do!"
Sin: "Wait till Lucifer learns about it. OMG we're so screwed..."
*Lucifer comes back from Heaven, sees the bridge to Earth*
Lucifer: "What the hell is that? And why is the door still open?"
Sin: "Well, you see, Lucifer, you're the most badass guy in the universe, so we figured, why have a door at all? In fact, why limit ourselves to this small town? The whole galaxy should belong to you, oh might one, and who would dare in their--"
Lucifer: "Why does the handle not turn?"
...
Lucifer: "Fucking morons. You had one job."
*Lucifer leaves*
Death: "I told you it weren't gonna work."
Sin: "Shut up."
@Robert The Zombie what do you mean by my kind?
8:13 "when you picture lucifer in your mind, you either imagine him as someone who hit every branch of the ugly tree during his fall from heaven, or..." LOL
I'm not sure about your interpretation of the "us" part, dude (it is also blasphemy to different judaist strands), but I love all what you said. You're surely one of the few truth searching non-christian people I love and always will love to hear from. Keep doing this!
Let's be fair, that POM wonderful ad worked. You bought one.
I did...
I have yet to even taste one.
Awesome content is a video that you keep coming back every 5-6 months or so! And that’s most of his videos! Awesone
Thanks, man, this was a pretty good Jesus Cinematic Universe fanfic.
I like how the skillshare promo was only one second long.
I honestly do enjoy all your videos even the ones I cringe at, the way you put things together and make it enjoyable without putting anyone down, makes them very enjoyable. I'm a conservative but watch alot of moderate to far left videos because, I like listening to the other sides view and I have had my mind change on certain things but I still consider myself conservative.
Same, Its actually listening to different point of views that I went from anarcho-capitalist ashiest, to conservative Orthodox Christian. Its kind of why I cringed when he uses the "us" passage of genesis to argue it wasn't referring to the trinity.
If you were a pastor I'd be in Church every Sunday. This is really good. 👍
I just want a live stream where you crack open a cold one and vent all your hidden rage. Love you, hooah
Once again, you’ve presented me with a lot of things to think about. Thanks..;
Fascinating, love it! I understand now where the myth of Lilith came from starting around 21:47. I've always understood Genesis 1 to be an overview and Genesis 2 then goes on to explain the human creation bit in more detail. "...in the image of God He created them, male and {eventually} female." Now that we've got that explanation out of the way, here's more. Chapter 2, let's go explore that human thing a bit.
Spot on with Lilith
Came to the comments looking for this. Interesting video although not entirely accurate.
That's the way I've always seen it. Intriguing video, nonetheless.
Still, there are contradictions between Genesis one and two. In the first one, humans were created after everything else already existed, but, in the second one, man was created before animals and plants, and assigned the task of naming and guarding every creature. Then, woman was created from his rib. Also in Genesis one they are referred to as male and female and only told to reproduce, while on the second one they are referred to as man and woman (ish and isha in Hebrew), so they seem more human, in a way, while the first ones are more animalistic. Also God is referred to by a different name. So all these differences make it pretty obvious that these were, originally, different versions. The writing styles don't even match. There were originally two bibles, one for Judea and one for Israel, which were separate kingdoms since the reign of Rejabam, Shlomo's (Solomon's) son. Probably the person who united both bibles kept the two chapters for the reason you mentioned. An overview and a specific story.
@@tamikras9927 I'm confused, which versions or paraphrases are you mashing together? When I pick up the Tanakh and look through Genesis 1 and 2, all I see for the name of God is Elohim. Elohim is a plural which already references the Trinity, right from the start. Which other name are you referring to? But you also missed the whole point of Chapter 1 being an outline, then chapter 2 filling in details. It can be very confusing to the Western mind which likes to think logically and linearly. But step out side that box and it makes sense. God did not create all the animals in a snap of fingers. He lovingly created them one at a time. But it is not for the reader to care whether the aardvarks or zebras were created first. Rather, in 1:26 it is to note that while God created all the mammals and reptiles and insects in one day, the humans were the most important. In chapter 2 Moses then details how God did this amazing thing, with the dust and the rib. Again, we are not to care that rabbits are bucks and does or that cats are toms and mollies, but rather to know that we are not JUST male and female, but we have special names too, ish and isha. What sources are you referencing for the 2 different versions and how do the writing styles differ to you?