Who Controlled Constantinople The Longest?

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    Produced by Matt Baker
    Script by Syawish Rehman & Theodor Tronêt
    Narration & Animation by Syawish Rehman
    Audio editing by Ali Shahwaiz
    Theme music: "Lord of the Land" by Kevin MacLeod and licensed under Creative Commons Attribution license 4.0. Available from incompetech.com

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  • @xaviotesharris891
    @xaviotesharris891 2 місяці тому +650

    Just spent a month in Istanbul, and I'm here to say the cats aren't exactly feral and aren't even exactly strays. Most will let you pet them, and some will come sit in your lap. They are, basically, the well-fed collective outdoor pets of the citizens of Istanbul.

    • @OhTheDeliciousIrony
      @OhTheDeliciousIrony 2 місяці тому +27

      When on a 10-day holiday in Turkey with my family last December and I agree. The cats of Istanbul are similar to the community cats of Singapore.

    • @mmtalii
      @mmtalii 2 місяці тому +18

      I lived in İstanbul for 4 years and have family members living there since 80s and you are %100 right. I want to add that I some cafes have their own cats they look after and some people(including my aunt) has their dedicated stash of cat food for those 'stray cats'.

    • @csmatthew
      @csmatthew 2 місяці тому +21

      ‘Public Cats’ is the term I’ve heard

    • @aynenhaklsnkesinlikle7363
      @aynenhaklsnkesinlikle7363 2 місяці тому

      😊😊9😅😊​@@OhTheDeliciousIrony

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 Місяць тому +1

      I think I'm gonna have to move there.

  • @q-tuber7034
    @q-tuber7034 2 місяці тому +485

    “Ruled longest by the Romans, except for a brief period when it was sacked by the Romans”

    • @praevasc4299
      @praevasc4299 2 місяці тому +9

      As if no other country ever had a civil war...

    • @faustusliviuspraetextatus6773
      @faustusliviuspraetextatus6773 2 місяці тому +44

      @@praevasc4299 Sacked by the romans who were not legally roman

    • @q-tuber7034
      @q-tuber7034 2 місяці тому +28

      @@praevasc4299 in this case not a civil war, but the sack and takeover of a Greek city by Germans.

    • @JonManProductions
      @JonManProductions 2 місяці тому +9

      @@q-tuber7034 who claimed to be the actual holy romans by suzerainty of the Pope in Rome lmao

    • @Mimi.1001
      @Mimi.1001 2 місяці тому +11

      ​@praevasc4299 To be fair, the Romans are kinda known for their civil wars, much like China to some extent or any large empire with glory to attain for that matter who didn't do much to prevent that from happening (like the Ottoman killing all brothers thing, even though they still had their fair share). With the Romans like every odd emperor had some pretenders rising up at the same time or elite units / minorities revolting, especially when the previous emperor/ruler didn't think much of succession.

  • @hoangkimviet8545
    @hoangkimviet8545 2 місяці тому +434

    The Persian reign in Constantinople
    compared to the whole history of the city was like a second in a minute.

    • @tylerellis9097
      @tylerellis9097 2 місяці тому +17

      @@IStevenSeagal The city has never been under Arab control.

    • @IStevenSeagal
      @IStevenSeagal 2 місяці тому +9

      @@tylerellis9097 No you're right. It was only Turkey/Anatolia/Rom that they took, but they couldn't go past to the bosphorus.

    • @mlgdigimon
      @mlgdigimon 2 місяці тому +4

      the arabs controlled the land past the bhosphorus and even had farms durring there seiges@@IStevenSeagal

    • @IStevenSeagal
      @IStevenSeagal 2 місяці тому

      @@mlgdigimon Really. I guess I was half right.

    • @cristosl
      @cristosl 2 місяці тому +1

      There was never a "Persian" reign in Constantinople

  • @wiaamhaddad8550
    @wiaamhaddad8550 2 місяці тому +750

    Official renaming from Constantinople to Istanbul happened during the Turkish republic. During the Ottoman era it was always officially Constantinople.

    • @7poppiesist
      @7poppiesist 2 місяці тому +201

      Konstantiniyye

    • @DonJuan911
      @DonJuan911 2 місяці тому +96

      ​@@7poppiesistthat's the official name of the city in ottoman turkish/Arabic but the English name is Constantinople just like Beijing is called Peking in German. Different languages have different names.

    • @praevasc4299
      @praevasc4299 2 місяці тому +107

      The Turks seem to have an issue with the names of their country and cities being translated to other languages. They insisted everyone calls Constantinople Istanbul, and recently they even demanded that the name of their country shall not be translated to other languages, but to use "Türkiye" instead. Which is quite a big double standard, for example they call Germany as "Almanya" instead of "Deutschland". So it's quite absurd they demand their country's name not to be translated, while they do translate the names of other countries.

    • @Dr.Happy11
      @Dr.Happy11 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@praevasc4299it's not that absurd on their behalf, just simply SDE.

    • @benjiskyler7836
      @benjiskyler7836 2 місяці тому +49

      I'm not told New York was once New Amsterdam.
      Why they changed it,
      I can't say.
      They just liked it better way.

  • @decir6743
    @decir6743 2 місяці тому +192

    26:35 that song can't get out of my HEAD!!

    • @bblunder
      @bblunder 2 місяці тому +8

      Didn't realize it until now hahaha

    • @spencereades
      @spencereades 2 місяці тому +9

      Why did Constantinople get the works... 36 times?

    • @socialcontracttheory
      @socialcontracttheory 2 місяці тому +4

      came here looking for the other TMBG fans. i am glad im leaving without feeling disappointed

    • @tarafahomsy
      @tarafahomsy 2 місяці тому +10

      Even old New York was once New Amsterdam 😊

    • @revinhatol
      @revinhatol 2 місяці тому

      Turkish delight, anyone?

  • @pedromenchik1961
    @pedromenchik1961 2 місяці тому +290

    I think a Cairo video on the same mold would be fun!

    • @MohamedAli20244
      @MohamedAli20244 2 місяці тому +34

      I'm sure you mean Alexandria because cairo was built and controlled by muslims only the British and the French managed to control and rule it for some time

    • @davidroddini1512
      @davidroddini1512 2 місяці тому +5

      A video about Cairo mold? That would be different for sure.

    • @juanfervalencia
      @juanfervalencia 2 місяці тому +11

      or Alsasce-Lorraine

    • @Screwycummings
      @Screwycummings 2 місяці тому +5

      @@juanfervalencia I'm thinking the same thing. It'll be interesting to see whether it's more French or German.

    • @stevenemil9052
      @stevenemil9052 2 місяці тому +8

      The geographical area of greater cairo dates back to pharohes, it was called Heliopolis or Iunu so a video about it would be great I think and span a very long period of time.

  • @mism847
    @mism847 2 місяці тому +1212

    The right answer is the Roman Empire.

    • @user-uf5nv5cb3b
      @user-uf5nv5cb3b 2 місяці тому +57

      It always is.

    • @Kolious_Thrace
      @Kolious_Thrace 2 місяці тому +51

      Byzantion wasn’t Roman…
      It began Roman but very quickly things turned into Hellenic!
      Language, traditions, religion, the people… we had nothing to do with the Romans!

    • @IamSome1
      @IamSome1 2 місяці тому +208

      ​@@Kolious_Thraceit was the Roman empire till the very end, Greek was a lingua franca in the east since the Full Roman empire, not to say what you are writing about is wrong, but it's wrong factually.

    • @colombianmonarchist
      @colombianmonarchist 2 місяці тому +33

      ​@@Kolious_Thracethe romans itself dont define the state like that

    • @Kolious_Thrace
      @Kolious_Thrace 2 місяці тому +14

      @@IamSome1 so, Hellas never existed?
      Just because Rome conquered us that doesn’t mean that we vanished from the world!
      For a looong time we were part of their empire, we were NOT romans! We were Roman citizens!
      As well as French, Germans, Egyptians… all of these ethnicities we were Roman citizens, we lived under their influence.
      Byzantion was not Rome!
      Most of our emperors were Hellenes not Romans… latin was quickly abandoned and the language of our people🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷 used through the whole Byzantine empire.
      A common mistake thy many non natives do is that: “You called yourselves Romans”
      Actually no!
      There are two different terms but in your ears sound the same:
      Ρωμαίος > Roméos
      Ρωμιός > Romiós
      Romèos was the Roman Latin citizen
      Romiós was the Hellene Orthodox citizen!
      We were Romii not Romans!
      A term adopted becaus me for many years our name Hellas was equivalent of the old pagan religion. So, it was forbidden to use it as from that point we were Orthodox Christians.
      Romios: Hellene in the origin without telling the term Hellas, and Orthodox.
      While Romèos meant Roman!
      Latin in origin and pagan worshipper of the West before they also adopted Christianity.

  • @Agripapost
    @Agripapost 2 місяці тому +641

    "Byzantine Empire" is only an academic term. In reality it was still the Roman Empire.

    • @Ciech_mate
      @Ciech_mate 2 місяці тому +36

      I like that, it puts a lot of internal conflicts in my head to rest.

    • @eugenegenoff3669
      @eugenegenoff3669 2 місяці тому +6

      ORIGINALLY known as:
      the Mighty Republic

    • @Kolious_Thrace
      @Kolious_Thrace 2 місяці тому +40

      Byzantion began as Roman but things turned around very quickly!
      We were not Romans!
      Language, traditions, religion, the people… noting to do with Rome!
      Byzantion was Hellenic and Orthodox🇬🇷☦️

    • @Agripapost
      @Agripapost 2 місяці тому +75

      @@Kolious_Thrace ethnic identities can be abandoned and reclaimed. your ancestors abandoned greek ethnicity because it was synonymous, at the time, with greek religion. greek became an extinct ethnic identity exactly as roman is now.

    • @NikeonaBike
      @NikeonaBike 2 місяці тому +55

      @@Kolious_Thrace if they werent roman why did they call themselves Ῥωμαῖοι ?

  • @mfaizsyahmi
    @mfaizsyahmi 2 місяці тому +136

    The real controller of Istanbul is the cats.

    • @Goldenskies__
      @Goldenskies__ Місяць тому +6

      That's cute. I can support the CAToman Empire. Sultan Kedi has no enemies, everybody loves him 😉❤

    • @filipefernandes870
      @filipefernandes870 Місяць тому

      The cats are the Roman spirits who still walk in their city.

    • @VergiliosSpatulas
      @VergiliosSpatulas 23 дні тому

      Constantinople*

    • @filipefernandes870
      @filipefernandes870 23 дні тому

      @@VergiliosSpatulas let me be annoying and also mention Konstantinoupolis(If I got that right) 😆

  • @janmelantu7490
    @janmelantu7490 2 місяці тому +73

    My favorite name for Istanbul is its Old Norse name: Miklagarðr. Mikla- being a cognate of Mega- and Much, and -garðr being the same root as Asgard and Midgard (often used for cities, Kyiv also has an Old Norse name, Kænugarðr). Basically, the Vikings called it a Megacity long before it was cool

    • @ophirbactrius8285
      @ophirbactrius8285 2 місяці тому +14

      Aha its also known as "Tsargrad" by the Kievan-Russ fellas. 😃😃

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 2 місяці тому +2

      Damn

    • @forzaacmilan36
      @forzaacmilan36 Місяць тому +2

      Bruh I just learned that from Vinland saga

    • @nurettinsarul
      @nurettinsarul Місяць тому +1

      Only the Turks can name their own city and they have done anyway. İSTANBUL

    • @stsk1061
      @stsk1061 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@nurettinsarulTake care of your inflation, first of all.

  • @Jacob-W-5570
    @Jacob-W-5570 2 місяці тому +113

    Fun fact in the 1990/2000's my school's Atlas still listed the city as "Constantinople (locally known as Istanbul)"

    • @Dr.Happy11
      @Dr.Happy11 2 місяці тому +17

      true OGs 💪🗿

    • @omerunlusoy
      @omerunlusoy 2 місяці тому +37

      so it still hurts

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer Місяць тому +1

      lol

    • @kylezdancewicz7346
      @kylezdancewicz7346 Місяць тому

      What country are you in?

    • @kylezdancewicz7346
      @kylezdancewicz7346 Місяць тому +14

      You know the largest city in the USA is new Amsterdam (locally known as New York.

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 місяці тому +60

    Imagine thinking getting rid of icones rather than military reform is what you need when losing in many wars.

  • @phosphorusgold2391
    @phosphorusgold2391 2 місяці тому +34

    I think it's important to mention the "Catalan Vengeance" (1305-1307). The mercenaries from the Catalan Company were managing to turn the tide on the war against the Ottomans in Anatolia, but their commander, Roger de Flor, was assassinated in a banquet by the son of the Byzantine emperor. This resulted in a revolt of the mercenary company which sacked and burnt most cities in the Byzantine Empire and actually conquered modern day Greece. The destruction was such that until 2015, Catalan citizens were forbidden to go to Mount Athos. Byzantium was done for after all this betrayal and destruction, and lost Anatolia shortly after.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 2 місяці тому

      Assassinating a key political figure at the worst possible moment. They truly were Romans to the end.

    • @isuckatleague745
      @isuckatleague745 Місяць тому +6

      Sounds like byzantine betrayed catalans :D why kill their commander and accuse them of betrayal. Fuck around and find out angle

    • @phosphorusgold2391
      @phosphorusgold2391 Місяць тому +5

      @@isuckatleague745 They were indeed betrayed, but it is understandable from their perspective: The Catalans were a bit rape-y and sacking all the cities they conquered, the Byzantines were starting to owe them tons of money and Roger the Flor was getting stronger by the day (both in political, monetary and military aspects). So the assassination was a plan to save Bysantine power, as they thought the Catalan mercenaries would disband after it. But they miscalculated.

    • @its_dey_mate
      @its_dey_mate Місяць тому +1

      The fall of the Balkans can largely be attributed to the incompetency of the Byzantines at that particular period in time, but hey, that's history.

    • @imperator7828
      @imperator7828 Місяць тому +2

      @@isuckatleague745 why dont you present the opposite perspective? Why did the byzantines do it ? GO ON

  • @imbyron5356
    @imbyron5356 2 місяці тому +30

    I like the history of cities videos. You should keep making them. Maybe not in the who controlled the longest format. Cities like Tokyo, Cairo or Mexico city would be fun.

    • @mrXOwarrior
      @mrXOwarrior 2 місяці тому +2

      I feel they have an agenda to talk about how great Islamic rule has been for great cities of Constantinople and Jerusalem, and that other leadership of other religions or societies are incompetent rulers.

  • @Nannerchan
    @Nannerchan 2 місяці тому +41

    Under whose reign did the city become cat central?

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  2 місяці тому +38

      I answer that as well.

    • @mmtalii
      @mmtalii 2 місяці тому +15

      OMG too many cats for no reason how cute=Turks.

    • @efeaydnl57
      @efeaydnl57 28 днів тому +1

      turks , from our papers while plauges happens in 1600s sultan took many cats from anatolia for pests and rats and it works

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 2 місяці тому +6

    Thank you for the video and information

  • @OnLowBattery
    @OnLowBattery 2 місяці тому +20

    I went to Istanbul almost a year ago, Hearing all that history made it even cooler.

    • @VergiliosSpatulas
      @VergiliosSpatulas 23 дні тому +1

      Constantinople*

    • @justisaac459
      @justisaac459 21 день тому

      @@VergiliosSpatulas Istanbul* Vergil.. This cannot be changed by motivation. If you want it, than you have to take it.

    • @szymeq.haizaki4898
      @szymeq.haizaki4898 17 днів тому

      ​@@justisaac459Constantinopole* your comment is also for muslims, who conquered Byzantine Empire and killed all real Turkeys.

  • @asdert6588
    @asdert6588 27 днів тому +3

    27:12 Ottoman's didn't pick the wrong side in WW1 because they had only 1 choice. They needed an ally against growing Russian danger on their borders and French and British didn't support Ottomans joining to the allies.

  • @lyricistrito
    @lyricistrito 2 місяці тому +15

    tysm for the song references at ~26:30 🤧

  • @dimitrosskrippka2154
    @dimitrosskrippka2154 2 місяці тому +75

    1919-1922 Istanbul was controlled by UK, and in 1878 it was almost taken by Russian Empire

    • @Greek_guy20
      @Greek_guy20 Місяць тому

      yeah you re right

    • @sadooww
      @sadooww Місяць тому +21

      It was a occupied zone and it was a international zone. It was occupied, not conquered. The Turks won the war and the UK gave it back

    • @dimitrosskrippka2154
      @dimitrosskrippka2154 Місяць тому

      @@sadooww doesn’t it mean it was controlled?

    • @cemdursun
      @cemdursun Місяць тому +10

      @@dimitrosskrippka2154 Yes and no. Officially it was still the Ottoman government in control but as a puppet of the British :)

    • @VergiliosSpatulas
      @VergiliosSpatulas 23 дні тому

      Constantinople*

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_5342 2 місяці тому +13

    9:40 this is how the hymn "Ti Ypermacho" was created, it is a hymn to the Virgin Mary, who is referred to as the "Supreme Commander"

  • @ruyfernandez
    @ruyfernandez 2 місяці тому +15

    0:06 Two years ago?! Time passes so quickly!

  • @tasosGRvocals
    @tasosGRvocals 2 місяці тому +2

    Amazing video!!!

  • @GoenndalfTheBlue
    @GoenndalfTheBlue 2 місяці тому +5

    This was great... i always wondered about that. Would be great to see something similar about Sicily or the south of Italy.

  • @AceticTWO
    @AceticTWO 2 місяці тому +6

    Thats a banger right there

  • @Amibingus
    @Amibingus 2 місяці тому +49

    Now you should do it with rome !

    • @TheRatOnFire_
      @TheRatOnFire_ 2 місяці тому +12

      Controlled by Rome. Then the Papal States. Then Italy. Done.

    • @pas-giaw6055
      @pas-giaw6055 2 місяці тому +3

      Not as interesting

    • @joshuataylor3550
      @joshuataylor3550 2 місяці тому +1

      Do it with your mum

    • @tylerellis9097
      @tylerellis9097 2 місяці тому +8

      @@TheRatOnFire_ Nah you forgot Odoacer and the Ostrogoths, multiple HRE Emperors also directly ruled from there like Otto III.

    • @GrigRP
      @GrigRP 2 місяці тому +1

      @@joshuataylor3550 Chav

  • @AQJ_DK
    @AQJ_DK 2 місяці тому +8

    @1:00 Not to forget "City of World's desire"

  • @incompetech_kmac
    @incompetech_kmac 2 місяці тому +6

    Good content

  • @Tinil0
    @Tinil0 2 місяці тому +7

    Hmmm, I wonder why the choice was made to not include two sieges? Leo Tornikios's seige in 1047 is included as well as Andronikos IV Palaiologos's in 1376 but not Theodosius III/the Opsician Theme's in 715. And the first Latin seige in 1203 before the famous one in 1204.
    Also, some of the comments on the video are a mess. It's crazy how political some people find the city even all these centuries later.

  • @hovis62
    @hovis62 Місяць тому +2

    I really appreciate this channel!

  • @almami1599
    @almami1599 2 місяці тому +7

    26:35 that was gold

  • @Frahamen
    @Frahamen 2 місяці тому +7

    He said the thing! :D

  • @sophiafayz7909
    @sophiafayz7909 2 місяці тому +9

    I love History!

  • @johnking6252
    @johnking6252 2 місяці тому +1

    A magnificent city that I would sure like to visit someday? The history and location are so important to the development of both East and West. Thx. 👍

  • @danielmadar9938
    @danielmadar9938 2 місяці тому

    Thanks

  • @LyleFrancisDelp
    @LyleFrancisDelp 2 місяці тому +32

    What? Useful Charts without the voice of Matt Baker? What's going on here?

    • @davidhunt6508
      @davidhunt6508 2 місяці тому +33

      It's not the first time. He occasionally has others narrate videos, I think ones they created, or are particularly passionate about.

    • @JustinLe
      @JustinLe 2 місяці тому +34

      you must be new to the channel 😂 there have been guest hosts for years

    • @lucinae8510
      @lucinae8510 2 місяці тому +21

      That's Syawish from Al Muqaddimah, he's pretty much done all the videos relating to Islamic history because of his familiarity and better pronunciations. He's also done a few other videos recently due to Matt being sick or busy!

    • @revinhatol
      @revinhatol 2 місяці тому +4

      Remember Jack Rackam?

  • @Freefs1
    @Freefs1 2 місяці тому +12

    I've been watching a lot of this channel's videos recently, and around 6 episodes in, I realized that in these videos you do not state any of your sources, which made me question the reliability of these videos. I'd encourage you to state your sources in the description or somewhere to ensure that your videos are reliable.

    • @VoidLantadd
      @VoidLantadd 2 місяці тому +1

      Read "The New Roman Empire: A History of Byzantium" by Anthony Kaldellis if you want an up to date account of everything they mentioned from Constantine refounding the city to Mehmed's Conquest of it.
      Having read extensively on Roman history, the video was largely accurate, though skipped over a lot of history for the sake of the length of the video.

    • @Freefs1
      @Freefs1 2 місяці тому +4

      @@VoidLantadd I get it, but it's not the viewer's job to do the research and verify the facts, these should be presented by the creator instead.

  • @miguelmartinez4023
    @miguelmartinez4023 2 місяці тому +1

    Will you do another dna test comp video? You should check out adntro

  • @Britishproductions1
    @Britishproductions1 2 місяці тому +2

    Yes

  • @2Links
    @2Links 2 місяці тому +11

    Very fun video, even if the premise was more of an excuse that quickly faded into the background haha.

  • @omarosama155
    @omarosama155 2 місяці тому +97

    Constantinople belongs to the Republic of Madagascar🇲🇬!!!

    • @jadobied1065
      @jadobied1065 2 місяці тому +6

      Real

    • @danielkarsten2816
      @danielkarsten2816 2 місяці тому +6

      I need more evidence

    • @davidroddini1512
      @davidroddini1512 2 місяці тому +1

      Madagascar? Why Madagascar?

    • @CarlosAdrianAguirre-hp9fv
      @CarlosAdrianAguirre-hp9fv 2 місяці тому +13

      Finally someone talking some sense.

    • @ShonMardani
      @ShonMardani 2 місяці тому +3

      Constantinople is actually Constanti-noble and is a Farsi word "کسانی که نوآورند - kesani-ke-no-avarand" which means "Those who are innovative/Those who bring new things".

  • @pietro4933
    @pietro4933 2 місяці тому

    This video is a masterpiece

  • @joaomarques4030
    @joaomarques4030 2 місяці тому +5

    I'd suggest Cairo as the next city to look at :)

  • @christopherdawson233
    @christopherdawson233 2 місяці тому +7

    You should do Thomas Jefferson family tree.

  • @Orianna_Bumssen321
    @Orianna_Bumssen321 2 місяці тому +5

    It was still called Constantinople during Ottoman Times it wasnt renamed to Istanbul officially until Mustafa Kemal Attaturk came to power.

    • @DobyTheElf
      @DobyTheElf 2 місяці тому +4

      Konstantiniyye

    • @omerunlusoy
      @omerunlusoy 2 місяці тому +3

      Atam beee, bir kere daha gururlandım!

    • @captainvanisher988
      @captainvanisher988 Місяць тому +1

      @@DobyTheElf that's just a translation of Constantinople in Turkish. Same way Germans call Beijing Peking.

  • @ruyfernandez
    @ruyfernandez 2 місяці тому +2

    26:41 I got that reference!

  • @kisstherings6773
    @kisstherings6773 Місяць тому +1

    There are a few reasons why people might sometimes confuse the Western and Eastern Roman Empires:
    1. Shared Name: Both empires called themselves the Roman Empire, even after the split in 395 AD. This can be especially confusing since most historical references simply use "Roman Empire" without specifying Western or Eastern.
    2. Geographical Continuity: The Eastern Roman Empire, also known as the Byzantine Empire, was a direct continuation of the Eastern Roman administration. The capital, Constantinople, had been a major city in the Roman Empire for centuries.
    3. Cultural Legacy: Both empires shared Roman law, administration, and cultural traditions.
    Here's a breakdown of the key differences:
    Western Roman Empire: Fell in 476 AD after barbarian invasions. Centered around Rome in Italy.
    Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire): Lasted for over a thousand years until 1453. Centered around Constantinople (present-day Istanbul, Turkey)
    So Greek era is 679 + 977 = 1656 years...

  • @kuvikina
    @kuvikina 2 місяці тому +7

    ''The city of world's desire''

  • @MegaWunna
    @MegaWunna 2 місяці тому +4

    Byzation, constantinople and now Istanbul. Three names for one city

    • @ophirbactrius8285
      @ophirbactrius8285 2 місяці тому +5

      Always forever Constantinople@Qunstantiniyyah 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

    • @jackholler3572
      @jackholler3572 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@ophirbactrius8285 Uhmmm not sure about that 😂😂

    • @monsieur558
      @monsieur558 Місяць тому +3

      They change the name, which is better than changing a gender 💀

  • @murphyislaw6174
    @murphyislaw6174 2 місяці тому +1

    love the blurb about the cats at the end.

    • @ophirbactrius8285
      @ophirbactrius8285 2 місяці тому

      Finally AWC are chucking deeply at the corner after knowing her lovely city are mentioned.

  • @alperenbaytimur
    @alperenbaytimur Місяць тому +6

    bro we literally only changed our regime, nothing else, we are still the same people as the ottomans

  • @miss1of2
    @miss1of2 2 місяці тому +2

    The cats are my favourite fact about Istanbul!

  • @oldemanA
    @oldemanA 2 місяці тому +4

    Freakin' GREAT call back to Bette Midler's 'Istanbul (not Constantinople)' . . . I nearly fell off my chair laughing) many, many thumbs up . . . .

    • @xaviotesharris891
      @xaviotesharris891 2 місяці тому +5

      Love the song and Bette though I do, she only covered that song. The Four Lads first recorded it in 1953, I think in a nod to the 400th anniversary of the fall on Constantinople.

    • @oldemanA
      @oldemanA 2 місяці тому +1

      @@xaviotesharris891 -thanks for pointing this out...just found The Four Lads version . . . . too funny

    • @lp-xl9ld
      @lp-xl9ld 2 місяці тому +1

      But of course, most people know the song today owing to the 1990 version by They Might Be Giants

    • @xaviotesharris891
      @xaviotesharris891 2 місяці тому

      @@lp-xl9ld Right. When that came out, I was unaware of Bette's brief stab at it on stage some years earlier - I thought TMBG had written it. When I saw her earlier version, I looked into it and learned about The Four Lads. And of course, TMBG had the benefit of Animaniacs.

  • @Rationalific
    @Rationalific 2 місяці тому +13

    Very informative video! Thanks! However, although I guess I can calculate it myself, it may have been better to have separated the Byzantine Empire from the Roman Empire, since the former was pagan and Latin and the latter was Christian and Greek. So although the Byzantines may have called themselves Romans, the actual society was very different. In contrast, you could say that the Ottomans still rule Constantinople to this day, as besides losing non-Turkish territories and changing their government, it's the same cultural lineage that still exists there. So rather than "Greek", "Roman (but mostly Greek later on), and "Ottoman", it may be better to understand the eras as "Greek Pagan", "Roman Pagan", "Greek Christian", and "Turkish Muslim".

    • @JustinLe
      @JustinLe 2 місяці тому +1

      if it was me I would have counted it by unbroken succession of rulers. So to me the Roman rule should have ended at the 13h century.

    • @muslimresponse103
      @muslimresponse103 2 місяці тому +1

      @@JustinLethe last video about Jerusalem was divided by religious population; jewish, christian and Muslim. thats what everyone wants to see. we all know that the eastern roman empire or byzantine empire ruled over this city the longest.

    • @mariapapa6370
      @mariapapa6370 2 місяці тому +2

      Your logic isn't quite correct the Turks today don't call themselves ottoman while the Byzantines definitely called themselves Romans well after the siege of the city. Also sure the religion changed but their every day lifes and their customs not so much.

    • @muslimresponse103
      @muslimresponse103 2 місяці тому +1

      @@JustinLe if you count by dynasty or as you said unbroken succession of rulers then the ottomans would be the longest im pretty sure of that. the ottomans empire is one whole dynasty, whereas the roman empire had many different dynasties.

    • @muslimresponse103
      @muslimresponse103 2 місяці тому +4

      @@mariapapa6370 the turks are ottomans and the ottomans were turks. your logic does not make sense!

  • @YahyaDustagheer2012
    @YahyaDustagheer2012 2 місяці тому

    Nice

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 місяці тому +14

    Yea that arabic writing in the Hagija Sofija would not have been there when Justinian saw it. 9:10

    • @davidwright7193
      @davidwright7193 2 місяці тому +7

      There would have been a mosaic of Christ on a gold background there. Assuming that other Orthodox Church domes are modelled on it,

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  2 місяці тому +29

      Unfortunately, no one was smart enough to take a photo of the time Justinian entered it.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 місяці тому +5

      @@UsefulCharts A shame really.

    • @omerunlusoy
      @omerunlusoy 2 місяці тому

      Well, it is there now, get over it

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 місяці тому +2

      @@omerunlusoy I am a man who isnt particularly bothered by things he cant change. Fear if I ever get godlike powers tho, then the turks will be driven from Thace.

  • @reddimus11
    @reddimus11 2 місяці тому +3

    Hey I’m going to the City, you guys want anything?

  • @lefikatlhaselo2650
    @lefikatlhaselo2650 Місяць тому

    I was wondering if you could make a family tree of the real peaky blinders gang. Or any crime family that was operating during the prohibition. Love your videos

  • @Marius_CN
    @Marius_CN Місяць тому

    J’ai été voir les poster ils sont superbes ! Et merci pour toutes ces vidéos… (Tu ne peux pas mettre une voix française STP…)

  • @jefflanam
    @jefflanam 2 місяці тому +3

    Now do Rome. I don't think it would beat Jerusalem or Constantinople for most of anything, but it would be interesting.

  • @danfsteeple
    @danfsteeple 2 місяці тому +8

    Ρωμαίους 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷☦️☦️☦️

  • @TheManWithTheFlan
    @TheManWithTheFlan 2 місяці тому +2

    boy when they called it "the city of world's desire" they weren't fucking kidding huh

  • @Krankenwagen571
    @Krankenwagen571 Місяць тому +1

    Can you do the same for any chinese , latin american or indian cities and add some graphs abd some cool graphics too

  • @BinanceUSD
    @BinanceUSD 2 місяці тому +13

    Constantine looks like Mark Zuckerberg

    • @stevetournay6103
      @stevetournay6103 2 місяці тому +1

      Well he said Byzantium was founded by that Amazon guy, so why not...😁

    • @AbuTate69
      @AbuTate69 2 місяці тому +2

      Maybe it’s his 500x greatest grandad

  • @rosskourtis9602
    @rosskourtis9602 2 місяці тому +17

    For Greeks who keep calling the Eastern Roman Empire "Greek", ask yourself: are they Greek or are modern Greeks actually Roman? I myself am Greek, but I have to accept that modern Greece has been profoundly influenced by Rome and is arguably the most direct continuation of the Roman Empire-culturally speaking. That's not to say that we cannot or should not call ourselves Greek, but I think we should reclaim our Roman name as well. Why should we shun our Roman heritage? Rome was a great civilisation.

    • @user-jh9nx6tl1n
      @user-jh9nx6tl1n 2 місяці тому +6

      Greeks in Turkey still call themselves Roman.

    • @txikitofandango
      @txikitofandango 2 місяці тому +2

      The national term "Greek" was adopted in the 18th century by Greek-speaking Romans under Ottoman rule, right?

    • @rosskourtis9602
      @rosskourtis9602 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@txikitofandango It was adopted during the revolution, which started in 1821. There were many reasons for the revival of the term, one of which was that some of the leaders of the revolution were western-educated and, thus, misinformed about the Eastern Empire.

    • @Pagokeraunos
      @Pagokeraunos 2 місяці тому +6

      It's the same thing. Ethnicaly Greeks, politicaly Roman. We had been the Roman empire for so long it became integral part of our identity.

    • @captainvanisher988
      @captainvanisher988 Місяць тому +3

      Greek 100%. Ethnically, culturally, religiously and linguistically Greek. More particularly Hellenic. Roman was only a civic name or otherwise called "official name". The DPRK calls themselves democratic, is it democratic though?
      As for Rome and Roman civilization, the truth is that Greek influence inside Rome was far stronger than any influence Rome had over the Greek provinces. Most Ceasars spoke Greek in private during the united republic of Rome. So in a sense it would be more accurate to call the Roman empire, Greek than to call the Eastern Roman empire Italian.
      The modern successor of the Eastern Roman Empire is Greece, no matter how much people seethe.

  • @Nasir-Ibrahim
    @Nasir-Ibrahim Місяць тому

    I advised you to make a history video on a city in Kuwait

  • @lastfire77
    @lastfire77 2 місяці тому

    I would love a third in this series with Belgrade!

  • @tarafahomsy
    @tarafahomsy 2 місяці тому +5

    So the city belongs to the cats after all ❤

    • @omerunlusoy
      @omerunlusoy 2 місяці тому

      I live in İstanbul but I cannot deny

  • @amalsp8955
    @amalsp8955 2 місяці тому +4

    Please do a family tree on the Venad Royal house

  • @TuffKaya
    @TuffKaya Місяць тому

    My order of the Timeline of the Bible book just got delayed to June-October 2024. What happened?

  • @eritreanamerican9859
    @eritreanamerican9859 Місяць тому

    It'd be nice if Matt did an expanded version of the Ethiopian Royalty Family Tree (Zagwe + Solomonic) and went over the history more extensively.

  • @t0ny360
    @t0ny360 2 місяці тому +4

    There is a difference between the initial Roman empire that conquered Byzantium and the Hellenised capital of the East Roman empire. I think those should be differentiated. The initial Roman conquest of the city more closely resembled the Latin period of 1204.

  • @advanceringnewholder
    @advanceringnewholder 2 місяці тому +16

    27:56 The true ruler of Istanbul

    • @KorhanErel
      @KorhanErel 2 місяці тому +6

      I was fortunate to meet Gli at the end of 2011. She was one of the sweetest cats I have ever encountered. She was the true empress, but without the political intrigue and the powerplay. She just wanted to hang out and sleep on your lap. On colder days, she'd also put her face against the light projectors, becoming a truly holy being of light. She met almost all politicians, state and religious leaders who visited Haghia Sophia during her lifetime.

    • @emilgilels
      @emilgilels 2 місяці тому +4

      The true ruler of Catstantinople. 😹😺

    • @KorhanErel
      @KorhanErel 2 місяці тому

      @@emilgilels ❤️🐱

    • @albertorimoldi8713
      @albertorimoldi8713 2 місяці тому +1

      I met Gli in the summer of 2017. Really a wonderful and lovely cat.

  • @txikitofandango
    @txikitofandango 2 місяці тому +1

    I wouldn't make a big deal of this normally, but since this is "Useful Charts" the spelling is BYZANTINE, not BYZATINE. Hopefully the printed chart for sale has corrected this

  • @winterbunny420
    @winterbunny420 Місяць тому

    @20:00 Byzantine is mispelled as Byzatine and it also is earlier

  • @zuraorokamono204
    @zuraorokamono204 2 місяці тому +29

    The Byzantine Empire was Roman by status, culturally it was Greek so ~800 years of that can be shared by the two categories, if not straight up counted as Greek.

    • @LibertyMonk
      @LibertyMonk 2 місяці тому +1

      Anyone who took Byzantium and stuck their capital there is doing so to become culturally Byzantine for the legitimacy. They even renamed the thing "The City", which is the kind of thing you do when it's important to your legitimacy.

    • @tylerellis9097
      @tylerellis9097 2 місяці тому +5

      Well it is based on Political control not cultural and at no point did the Byzantine Empire stop considering itself the Roman Empire. It remained a Greek City as Byzantium even under Roman control so yeah if the criteria was changed Greek would be the undisputed number 1.

    • @DCCrisisclips
      @DCCrisisclips 2 місяці тому +3

      @@tylerellis9097 Yes why don't these people get that Roman and Greek is one and the same and that roman control was not seen as a occupation.

    • @zuraorokamono204
      @zuraorokamono204 2 місяці тому +2

      @@DCCrisisclips it wasn't always like that, the first few centuries the Romans were seen as foreign rulers, the Latins had to conquer the area after all, the Greek adoption of the Roman identity was a gradual process
      it cannot be helped that the Greek dominated medieval Byzantine/Rhomaioi Empire be distinguished from the classical Latin dominated Eastern Roman Empire culture wise even if they have a political continuum

    • @zuraorokamono204
      @zuraorokamono204 2 місяці тому +3

      @@tylerellis9097 they never stoped considering themselves the Roman Empire but the ruling elite stopped having cultural ties with Rome
      it wasn't a Greek city controlled by Romans, it was a Greek city controlled by Greeks calling themselves Romans
      I do not aim to devalue their legitimacy at all, I'm just saying the distinction must be made

  • @muslimresponse103
    @muslimresponse103 2 місяці тому +7

    if you are going to count the byzantine christian greek speaking empire and the eastern roman pagan latin speaking empire as one empire than so should the ottoman empire and the Turkish republic state be considered as one. also because in the Jerusalem video the city was under roman or british rule but because the people were jews it was considered as jewish. a religious version would have been interesting too! wether christians, greek/roman pagans or Muslims controlled it the longest? like the Jerusalem video.

    • @Carpediem357
      @Carpediem357 2 місяці тому +3

      Ottomans and turks are 2 very different groups compared to the long running Eastern Roman Empire

    • @muslimresponse103
      @muslimresponse103 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Carpediem357the ottomans were predominantly a turkish empire who integrated and assimilated other minorities from their empire and borders into their elite. the latin romans also did the same with germanic and other peoples. the big difference is that the eastern roman empire was predominantly greek whereas the western romans were latin. the turkish republic today is predominantly turkish even though they have a large variety of ancestry today and many minorities like Kurds and others. the roman empire also changed its political system many times from “democratic” republic to dictatorship/empire to christian theocracy, etc. so it only makes sense that todays turkish republic is put together with the ottomans. because they just changed the political system like how the romans did.

    • @Carpediem357
      @Carpediem357 2 місяці тому +2

      @@muslimresponse103 Turkey and the Ottomans are 2 different groups.
      The Romans were never democratic. Republic and Democracy were 2 very different things in the ancient times. The Romans spoke Latin, even the East for a while spoke Latin before the predominant language changed to Greek, Latin was still used and spoken in the East.
      By the same logic you used: Ottomans were an empire then fell and Turkey became a republic thus making both entirely different entities so again Ottomans and Turkey are different groups and thus aren't grouped together

    • @muslimresponse103
      @muslimresponse103 2 місяці тому +5

      @@Carpediem357 what nonsense are you on about. everything you are saying is wrong!
      the ottomans were turkish and the turkish republic are ottomans. their system of governance changed from tribal confederacy to absolute monarchy to constitutional monarchy, to a parliamentary dictatorship under Mustafa Kamal to a parliamentary democracy and now a presidential democracy/republic. but still the elite and majority of the population have always been Turkish from the first days of the ottoman empire till today. the turkish republic of today is a continuation of the ottomans. this is indisputable. so stop arguing about it.
      the real question is. was the byzantine empire really a roman empire or was it actually greek? it may have started as a latin roman empire with latin elites but soon it turned into a greek empire not just because its population was greek but also because its elite were greek and only roman in name! meaning they preferred to be known as roman because of its prestige giving them extra legitimacy as an empire but really they were as roman as the ottoman sultans were roman emperors. only in title/name!
      whereas the ottoman empire was always dominated by turks and the elite were mostly turks and the majority of its population was for the most part turks and its army and its generals etc. on the other hand the byzantine empire was mostly greek and not roman, more slavs and bulgars made up the byzantine army and elite than latin speaking "romans".

    • @Carpediem357
      @Carpediem357 2 місяці тому

      @@muslimresponse103 the Ottomans and the Turks are different groups. The Ottomans were a Imperial Monarchy whereas Turkey is a republic 2 different groups wow mind blown.
      The Eastern were Roman. No debate lmao. There is question, they called themselves roman, they spoke roman, they were part of the roman empire, they continued Roman tradition and practices.
      Ottomans and Turkey are different so again they should not be grouped together end of discussion. Capiseesh??

  • @Constantine-316
    @Constantine-316 2 місяці тому +1

    🙌

  • @toomanyopinions8353
    @toomanyopinions8353 13 днів тому

    Can someone clarify if I am misunderstanding the narrator’s accent here- is the museum/mosque talked about throughout this that closed down in 2020 the 2020 the Hagia Sophia? I’m hearing “Ia Sophia” but I’m assuming that’s a pronunciation thing.

  • @virginlamo8202
    @virginlamo8202 2 місяці тому +23

    Saddest moment is history is the Hagia Sofia being converted to a Mosque

    • @Phonixrmf
      @Phonixrmf 2 місяці тому +4

      I'm a Muslim and even I don't like that decision. Alas it's not the first house of worship that changed... ownership, and I don't think it would be the last

    • @emilgilels
      @emilgilels 2 місяці тому +1

      Which time? ;-)
      Not sure it's correct to call it "the saddest" moment in history: history is alas full of them.
      The magnificent building is still there, persevering over the millennia through the caprices of human history.

    • @torilongstaff5591
      @torilongstaff5591 2 місяці тому +6

      Hey real quick question: how do you feel about the Great Mosque of Córdoba? real sad when that was converted into a cathedral huh?

    • @richardvillano4004
      @richardvillano4004 2 місяці тому +1

      @@torilongstaff5591yes, but that was done 800 years ago. Hagia was converted just a few years ago and it wasn't even a Church anymore anyway so there was no reason for that other than to show some people reverted to a medieval mentality in the 21st century. Congratulations!

    • @nuclearpotato2000
      @nuclearpotato2000 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@torilongstaff5591 The Muslims conquered Spain, built mosques, heavily taxed people of other religions, that's called colonization.
      Spain retook the peninsula during the reconquista and removed mosques. That's called decolonization.
      Turks conquered Greece and converted a great building into a mosque, replacing the native culture with your own is called colonization.
      Funny how colonizers always cry when decolonization happens to them, eh?

  • @tasosGRvocals
    @tasosGRvocals 2 місяці тому +15

    So basically the Greeks, if you combine the ancient era and half of the Roman period where the empire was basically a Greek empire.

    • @VoidLantadd
      @VoidLantadd 2 місяці тому +5

      It was not basically a Greek Empire. It was completely Roman. The Romans spoke Greek in the eastern provinces as they always had, but Greek was never how they identified themselves.

    • @richardvillano4004
      @richardvillano4004 2 місяці тому +5

      @@VoidLantaddYou are correct but it's a bit more complicated than that. They did consider themselves Romans. They were the Roman Empire as we all know Byzantine Empire is a name historians gave them well after they ceased to exist. Yet they were aware they were Greek. But as you stated they considered themselves Roman. This was the case even before the western empire fell. They were the same but they were very different as well. That's probably why most think of the Roman Empire ending in the 5th century when it technically lasted almost another 1000 years. It's a shame.

    • @gilpaubelid3780
      @gilpaubelid3780 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@VoidLantadd​ It was basically a Greek empire. Greeks with roman citizenship took under their control the Roman state during the medieval period and they controlled it for almost a millenia. The empire during the byzantine period had Greeks in charge, Greek elite, Greeks at its center, Greek as the lingua franca and Greek culture as the dominant culture. So even though medieval Greeks preserved the state and kept the Roman law and institutions it's not wrong to say that, in essence, the empire transformed into a Greek empire during the byzantine period. Medieval Greeks identified as both Greeks and Romans since that's what they were : Greeks and citizens of the Roman state (a state that they controlled during the medieval period). I'm not sure what gave you the impression that they didn't identify as Greeks. Plenty of sources from that period have survived and it's a fact that Byzantines identified as Greeks.

    • @VoidLantadd
      @VoidLantadd 2 місяці тому +2

      @@gilpaubelid3780 It is not a fact that they identified as Greek. In those times Greek came to specifically mean someone from the Greek peninsula, so a Greek speaking Roman in Asia Minor for example would not have identified as Greek, while a Roman from Athens would have.

    • @gilpaubelid3780
      @gilpaubelid3780 2 місяці тому +7

      @@VoidLantadd No, it didn't. And we have plenty of sources from Greeks from Asia minor that identified as Greeks.
      How do you explain this extract from George Tornikes for example? He refers to Byzantines as Greeks and distinguishes between barbarians and Hellenes (Greeks) , those who are "slaves by nature" ( τοις φύσει δούλοις) and those who are free (ελεύθεροι). He expresses his discontent that "barbarians" are used to fill up important posts in the byzantine empire during the reign of Manuel I Komnenos and says that he can't accept having the Greeks, who are disciples of the Muses and of Hermes coming second to those who speak a barbarous tongue, have barbarous mores and are servants of Ares. («Μη μοι τοις βαρβάροις τον Έλληνα μηδέ τοις φύσει δούλοις τον ελεύθερον συναπόγραφε ο φιλέλλην και φιλελεύθερος. Ου δέχομαι γλώσσαν μεν άλλους έχοντας βάρβαρον, ειπείν δε και γνώμην, και υπηρέτας Άρεος χρηματίζοντας ός επίπαν τοις βαρβάροις ωκείωται, ανά μέσον βαρβάρου διαστέλλειν και Έλληνος , τον δε γνώμην και γλώσσαν υπέρ Έλληνά τε πάντα και ήρωα, εραστήν τε Μουσών και Ερμού, των ανδρών εκείνων δεύτερον έρχεσθαι».)
      Another example:Joseph I Galesiotes (13th century) said that they were Greeks in race that call themselves Romans, a name that they took from New Rome/ Constantinople: Ἕλληνες ὄντες τῷ γένει, Ρωμαίους ἑαυτοὺς ὀνομάζομεν και αληθώς γε μην· εκ γαρ της Νέας Ρώμης η παρωνυμία αύτη προσκεκλήρωται ημίν
      Another example:The byzantine translators when they were translating the syriac text of Pseudo-methodius into Greek (8th century) they wrote as a clarification note : The empire of the Romans meaning that of the Hellenes/Greeks ( Εστί δε νυν η βασιλεία των Ρωμαίων ηγουν Ελλήνων)
      From the primary sources we can see that Byzantine Greeks (no matter where they were from) identified as Greeks during the entirety of the byzantine period.

  • @magnustheidamey4924
    @magnustheidamey4924 2 місяці тому

    26:40 word !

  • @wandomwindow6762
    @wandomwindow6762 2 місяці тому +1

    I can’t think of a “Istanbul, not Constantinople” joke.

  • @nenenindonu
    @nenenindonu 2 місяці тому +22

    If the ancient era of the citys being refered to as Greek era despite different states ruling it so should the Ottoman & Turkish Republic eras be lumped together and called Turkish era

    • @SethTheOrigin
      @SethTheOrigin 2 місяці тому +5

      Nah you’re wrong

    • @nenenindonu
      @nenenindonu 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@SethTheOrigink

    • @jackyex
      @jackyex 2 місяці тому +5

      There's a quite big different between the modern and theoretically secular and national Turkish state of now with the multi ethnic multi religious, Islamic ottoman empire. They were related entities but they are different.

    • @winterwolf34
      @winterwolf34 2 місяці тому +4

      The Turkish people as a nation and ethnic identity were founded in 1920 by Mustafa Kefal, no such thing as ''Turkish'' before that, ''Turk'' was a swear word for peasant people during the Ottoman times, they did not identify as Turks.

    • @igorlopes7589
      @igorlopes7589 2 місяці тому +6

      The Ottoman Empire still had a huge greek presence in Constantinople and Western Anatolia. So it is different from the ethnically homogenous Turkey

  • @nikorasunippon2371
    @nikorasunippon2371 2 місяці тому +4

    🇬🇷☦️

  • @sherytawdros
    @sherytawdros 9 днів тому

    Do you have references for these information?

  • @zufizuf200
    @zufizuf200 25 днів тому +2

    You count as roman, greek and then ottomans. But rightfully it should be counted as the turkish era and the republic of turkey should be counted alongside with it, as the republic of turkey is the continutation of the Ottoman empire. Not as an empire but as a republic. Something like it was ruled by the roman empire and later as east roman empire....

  • @nisargdhamecha8476
    @nisargdhamecha8476 2 місяці тому +3

    Another city that can come near to Constantinople in terms of being besieged is Delhi.
    The only problem is there's not much written history about Delhi before 1500 years. The admin can actually throw some light on it.

    • @DobyTheElf
      @DobyTheElf 2 місяці тому

      Really? Attacked by Ghaznavis ?

  • @AltaicGigachad
    @AltaicGigachad 2 місяці тому +5

    The expression originated in the mid-15th century, shortly after the capture of Constantinople (ancient Byzantium and present-day Istanbul) by the troops of Sultan Mehmet II in 1453. Examples
    "I have two, sir, who, without vanity, could be presented to the pope, especially my eldest, who is a pretty bit of a girl. I am raising her to be a countess, although her mother does not want it. How old is she, sir, this future countess? But she is approaching fifteen years old: already that is a fathom taller for you, nice, fresh as an April morning, agile, uncoupled, sprightly, and above all strong as a Turk.
    Devil! these are good dispositions for being a countess.
    Oh! her mother may say so, she will be. >>
    Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra - Don Quixote of La Mancha

  • @stevetournay6103
    @stevetournay6103 2 місяці тому

    Who knew the Amazon guy had been around that long! 😁

  • @Urlocallordandsavior
    @Urlocallordandsavior 2 місяці тому +2

    The Allies also turned Constantinople into an international city for a year after WWI.

    • @mertnecati875
      @mertnecati875 21 день тому

      It was occupied not conquered so it is not on the list. Sultan agreed the international control because allies also wanted him as a puppet- then Turkish Independence War broke out and it was headed by young officers of Ottoman Empire. Both occupation and sultanate were smashed down around 1923.

  • @st-craftbeats8374
    @st-craftbeats8374 2 місяці тому +3

    Romans = Greek-speaking Orthodox people, the ancestors of Modern Greeks who called themselves 'Ρωμαίοι' and 'Έλληνες' (from the 10th century onward) until 1832 where the term 'Έλληνες' prevailed. Even now, in all Greek traditional songs, Greeks call themselves 'Ρωμιοί'.

  • @KimberlyGreen
    @KimberlyGreen 2 місяці тому +11

    Time to queue up & listen again to They Might Be Giants "Instanbul (Not Constantinople)" .

    • @TheBandit025Nova
      @TheBandit025Nova 2 місяці тому

      My Early Shorts have the it if you want to hear the short version

    • @stevetournay6103
      @stevetournay6103 2 місяці тому

      One of several covers of that quirky '50s song...

  • @danieleborsetto6691
    @danieleborsetto6691 Місяць тому +1

    Make the same video with Syracuse

  • @kknoesis
    @kknoesis Місяць тому +2

    Μacedonia was Greece mate... Its was a Hellenic kingdom with Hellenic Doric people.. Moreover there were not Greece with contemporary's term it was city states with hellenic people...

    • @haksrax39
      @haksrax39 Місяць тому

      He did count macedonian as greek?

    • @kknoesis
      @kknoesis Місяць тому

      @@haksrax39 At 2:09 says Anatolia, Macedonia and Greece. There were not political entity of Greece.. it was Greek States and greek Macedonian kingdom

  • @docalexander2853
    @docalexander2853 2 місяці тому +4

    Some education most people don’t know, Jerusalem was the Space Command Center and directed the space shuttles to the landing place in Baalbek. Even Mohammed claimed he rode his horse to heaven there.

  • @theshenpartei
    @theshenpartei 2 місяці тому +5

    Is it ok for me to still call Istanbul by its Original name Constantinople ?

    • @sophiafayz7909
      @sophiafayz7909 2 місяці тому

      I mean you can, but why call is Constantinople now?

    • @MistrumGenderplasma
      @MistrumGenderplasma 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@sophiafayz7909 I mean, even Constantinople was a name change from Byzantium, so just call it that if you want to deny reality

    • @user-uf5nv5cb3b
      @user-uf5nv5cb3b 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@sophiafayz7909lemme guess, from the river to the sea, right?🤨

    • @stevenjlovelace
      @stevenjlovelace 2 місяці тому

      Only if you're flying in from New Amsterdam.

    • @MistrumGenderplasma
      @MistrumGenderplasma 2 місяці тому

      @user-uf5nv5cb3b God you guys are so delusional thinking everything Muslim has to do with the Israeli seige on Gaza. The Ottoman empire was the first nation to call that region their word for Palestine, which Palestine already is an anglicized version of Phillistine. British Mandate for Palestine is only called that because the Ottomans called it Palestine. A large Jewish population left Palestine, and then an even larger population eventually came back to that region and started calling it their own name

  • @krbn80
    @krbn80 Місяць тому

    Actually it was the Thracians, who arrived to the region more than 4000 years ago, founded the settlement, and other settlements around. The earliest name known for the town is Lygos. And according to linguists, King Byzas is also a Thracian name. Greek myths are known for appropriating others’ histories, and this seems to be one of those cases.
    So we can assume the city was mostly inhabited by Thracians all through the Thracian era, until they were devoured by Roman Christianity. But we may count it entering the Hellenistic influence at least by the Macedon rule.
    On the other hand, you may also divide the Roman era into two, considering the first part was being ruled from Rome, and then the Eastern Rome was ruled by the Anatolians and Thracians (not Greeks). That’s why what we call the “Byzantine architecture” is almost the same as ancient Thracian architecture.
    So we can say there was the long ancient Thracian era, a short Hellen rule, Roman rule, and a long native Anatolian sovereignty era. Then, Ottoman.

  • @Soviet-Gaming
    @Soviet-Gaming Місяць тому +1

    bro at 1:05 I have that Poster lmao

  • @hakanhakan8327
    @hakanhakan8327 2 місяці тому +3

    Türkiye is legally the successor state of the Ottoman Empire. It is just a regime change. Türkiye even paid the Ottoman debts. So you may combine those two periods together.