FFXIV: Dawntrail Rogue/Ninja 1 to 100 Leveling Skills Guide

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  • @someguy7507
    @someguy7507 29 днів тому +10

    45:17 Bunshin does not benefit from trick attack as it is pet damage, it does however benefit from dokumori as dokumori increases all damage taken

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  29 днів тому +15

      Sometimes I forget the game is coded on duct tape

  • @somelosercalledjab
    @somelosercalledjab Місяць тому +142

    This job is still unplayable until they make it so bunnying under Kassatsu makes the rabbit bigger.

    • @raarasunai4896
      @raarasunai4896 Місяць тому +3

      That would be funny

    • @BazzFreeman
      @BazzFreeman Місяць тому +4

      @@raarasunai4896 Even better, fleetingly change your entire glam to the bunny outfit.

    • @raarasunai4896
      @raarasunai4896 Місяць тому +2

      @@BazzFreeman That would be bunny 😁

  • @GeriAttric
    @GeriAttric Місяць тому +30

    Thank you for your continued contributions to the FFXIV community.

  • @Keryusupercoologuy
    @Keryusupercoologuy Місяць тому +54

    As a Ninja, you always want to avoid your STD's (Single Target Dotons)

    • @soldierorsomething
      @soldierorsomething Місяць тому +2

      Yeah, if i get a doton for a single target by accident i´d rather get a bunny on my head than slam it to the ground :D

    • @cormeaga
      @cormeaga Місяць тому +2

      This. I see WAY too many ninja players using doton on single target even in a level 90 alliance raid. If my math is correct, raiton+ raiju is worth around 3 dotons.

    • @soldierorsomething
      @soldierorsomething Місяць тому +1

      @@cormeaga if i remember correctly, at lower levels DOTON is worth 1 shuriken throw, so throwing a 1 shurinken on a single target is worth the same as placing 1 doton under it

    • @cormeaga
      @cormeaga Місяць тому

      @@soldierorsomething I was doing Aglaia to level up my drk, and there was a ninja in my group using doton. I commented that raiton was bad against single target and he responded with, every dot helps. He rarely did trick attack and dokumori. Needless to say, he was at the bottom of dps(lower than me, a drk) and even the whm said to the nin to learn to play the job.

    • @treekomaster1997
      @treekomaster1997 Місяць тому

      I mean, we play ninja, not much chance of the other kind 😅

  • @red5robb1
    @red5robb1 Місяць тому +17

    another note for Shukuchi. there is an option in the character settings (i forget where exactly) that you can toggle so im pretty sure any targeted ground based attack, movement, ability etc cannot go past the target distance.
    if i move my mouse farther than the range of Shukuchi, i can still click and it will go the max distance possible. this way i can just throw my mouse across the screen in the direction i want and get max distance instantly.
    this is also very useful for the mech section in Praetorium

  • @Egalia_1
    @Egalia_1 Місяць тому +25

    Don't play the job but just wanted to say thank you for all you do. I wouldn't have gotten nearly as far without your videos

  • @steveaustin4118
    @steveaustin4118 Місяць тому +6

    while leveling all jobs your guides are so helpful in getting the rotation started before going deeper into real optimal rotations

  • @ginjabr3ad330
    @ginjabr3ad330 Місяць тому +2

    I've started these videos repeatedly as a brush up on any classes I've forgotten. These are my recommended videos for anyone starting a new class.

  • @OpXarxa
    @OpXarxa Місяць тому +3

    Finally, one of these actually shows up in my subscription list
    the algorythm is healing

  • @M0du5Pwn3n5
    @M0du5Pwn3n5 Місяць тому +6

    Fastest click of my life. I've wanted to get back into ninja since the expansion launch, and I've been waiting for your guide!

  • @liquiddrew55
    @liquiddrew55 Місяць тому +13

    Don't forget Trick Attack has a positional on it still. In opener you need to hit Armor Crush (flank) into Trick Attack (rear) really close to each other. It might be worth mentioning using True North in the opener, below level 92, since it is sometimes really hard to hit a GCD positional into an OGCD positional that fast.

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  Місяць тому +5

      Level 82 Phantom Kamaitachi replaces Armor Crush, and even still, it's not that big of a deal. This isn't about optimizing, the level 70 opener isn't even optimal or even close to it as I mentioned, and many other factors.
      Yes, do your positionals which is why I do mention them, but if you're actively using this guide you have bigger issues to worry about first.

    • @liquiddrew55
      @liquiddrew55 Місяць тому +1

      @@WeskAlber That's very fair. Ninja has so many little optimizations that it is easy to get lost in the weeds. Like you said there are a lot bigger things that are more important to learn first. Just thought it was something worth mentioning. Great guide as always Wesk

    • @Gear_Master_
      @Gear_Master_ Місяць тому

      Kunai's Bane does not have a positional. EDIT: Disregard it.

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  Місяць тому +2

      @@Gear_Master_ They said below 92

    • @Gear_Master_
      @Gear_Master_ Місяць тому

      @@WeskAlber you are right, read it wrong. This is actually a pain point to me with the job, feels like PK should provide a Kazematoi at least.

  • @sunrise_flare
    @sunrise_flare Місяць тому +12

    you can actually use sprint while hiding, it makes you walk slightly faster lol

  • @kiroubada
    @kiroubada Місяць тому +3

    Trying to learn every job and I am always looking forward to the next guide you release, they're all so helpful

  • @Warman225
    @Warman225 Місяць тому +1

    As always, you are a pillar of the community and your guides are invaluable

  • @keiyangoshin3650
    @keiyangoshin3650 Місяць тому +1

    Best ‘from this to this’ Ever! 😂🤩❤️ As always, thank you for helping me be less of a noob. 👍

  • @milkiipetals
    @milkiipetals Місяць тому +2

    With this guide, I can become the next Hokage! Believe it!

  • @east3rcat
    @east3rcat 27 днів тому

    Thank you for continuing to publish these guides!

  • @kinda_random335
    @kinda_random335 17 днів тому

    Just picked up Samurai. Really waiting for that one !

  • @li587
    @li587 Місяць тому

    Thank you so much for keeping the this guides alive!

  • @ode-blu
    @ode-blu Місяць тому +6

    Hide feels a bit awkward now that huton changed. I prefer this version, but i liked the muscle memory of pre-pull huton and hide.

  • @raarasunai4896
    @raarasunai4896 Місяць тому +1

    “Limit Target Ring to Targetting Distance” is the name of the option. I think it’s under System Config -> Controls

  • @herrsoosmann6248
    @herrsoosmann6248 Місяць тому

    Perfect timing, I'm trying to learn ninja as my melee main ^^. Thx Wesk ^^

  • @BHS289
    @BHS289 Місяць тому +1

    Huton being removed made the job so much more streamlined in a way I liked, it’s probably my most-played job outside of raiding now due to the functional uses of Mug/Dokumori, ranged attacks from ninjutsu complimented by Forked Raiju, and faster movement speed. Would heavily recommend it to anyone curious.

  • @herebejamz
    @herebejamz Місяць тому +1

    Shukuchi with the option to range lock the targeting circle on controller is wildly easy to get used to. I basically never used it without macro when I was playing on M&K.

  • @richardl4999
    @richardl4999 День тому

    With 7.1 buff Ten-Chi-Jin has received a QOL buff, you're able to move while its casted now. I was in the middle of watching/learning this guide/job when patch came out.

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  День тому

      See description

    • @richardl4999
      @richardl4999 День тому

      @@WeskAlber just throwing it out there for those that scan the comments section first, or skip the description all together :)

  • @DragoranShini
    @DragoranShini Місяць тому +1

    Love the guides as always! Just a quick question: did something change about the audio? I swear it sounds like his voice either got a bit deeper or bit more muffled compared to the other guides >.> or am i going crazy? >.

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  Місяць тому

      I noticed nothing myself. I am drinking more water?

    • @DragoranShini
      @DragoranShini Місяць тому

      @@WeskAlber Maybe i am imagining it, but youtube recommended me the picto guide right next to it and after listening for like 2 minutes there and then listening back into here, i could swear there is a difference. Like just slightly deeper or more... bellow? Sorry english isnt my first language so its hard to put into words ^^" its nothing negative and i got used to it so fast, that i had to listen to the other video(s) for multiple minutes to hear it again. Was just wondering so no worries :)

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  Місяць тому

      @@DragoranShini I mean obviously I wouldn't want worse audio so it's good to bring it up. I just don't hear it. Granted I hear myself daily unfortunately

  • @liasprings6502
    @liasprings6502 Місяць тому

    I did actually try to workshop an AoE opener myself and it's hilarious how many different variations there can be depending on when your Mudra come off cooldown again or how much ninki you have going into the opener, what you've got is about as good as many others, even with the forced clipping when you weave both Deathfrog Medium and Tenri Jindo after the Goka Mekkyaku. I think I personally throw out Dokumori a GCD sooner and use freed up weave on Bunshin, shift Meisui to be immediately after TCJ, and use Tenri Jindo after Phantom Kamaitachi. I think the difference between these two openers is like 2-3% at most though and with how hectic pulls can get with AoEs and such it's good enough.

  • @marktarshis3659
    @marktarshis3659 13 днів тому +1

    Ten Chi Jin. Players can now move while under the effect of Ten Chi Jin. Nice.

  • @kataku8609
    @kataku8609 Місяць тому

    Even in DT, NIN is still my favourite melee. The ninjutsu system is the most fun system of all melee!

  • @Tast_the_Confused
    @Tast_the_Confused 27 днів тому

    40:15 In regards to TCJ immobility being a safety concern in large packs of monsters. If you input Shukuchi IMMEDIATELY after Doton, it will deploy the Doton at your arrival point, not departure. This works with normal Ninjutsu and TCJ ninjutsu. It is much easier to execute with the setting that allows execution of ground targeted skills via double pressing. Hope this helps someone out there!
    Character Configuration > Control Settings (left buttons) > Target (top buttons) > Ground Targeting Settings (Gamepad Mode) > "Press action twice to execute"
    Edit: Just tested tolerance on Shukuchi timing. Seems to be in the ballpark of .3 seconds. I have no idea if ping affects this; I don't even know my ping!

  • @ch0senking440
    @ch0senking440 Місяць тому

    Got away from work just to tune into greatness

  • @ChristianGroff-c1q
    @ChristianGroff-c1q Місяць тому

    And the first new job guide is ninja, because Viper is its flesh and blood son. XD
    But seriously, great guide. I love the 'this to this' comparison where the after shows the minion acting confused that his master is gone.
    Please do Astrologian next. I am playing that on my alt because I don't want to double up on expansion jobs and Astro is my least favorite healer. :(
    EDIT: Nevermind, you did Monk before this.

  • @ShinyMew112
    @ShinyMew112 Місяць тому +2

    intro joke on point as usual wesk lol

  • @AWR1ddle
    @AWR1ddle Місяць тому

    best guides in the business

  • @TheFrantic5
    @TheFrantic5 Місяць тому +1

    I'd like to imagine that in an alternative universe rogue was the split class with ninja and viper instead of arcanist and summoner/scholar.

  • @Ghilliedude3
    @Ghilliedude3 Місяць тому

    Ninja is one of the best down scaling classes in terms of enjoyment for me. Even in ARR content it feels like ninja from having the mudra

  • @NeoMiles74
    @NeoMiles74 Місяць тому +1

    I cry every time I see a ninja use Doton in single target

    • @Brawneteer
      @Brawneteer 10 днів тому

      We always try and avoid STD's (Single Target Doton)

  • @just_d3spairity
    @just_d3spairity Місяць тому

    The only thing I've wished since the rework occured was for ninja to get at level 60 a baby's-first Kunai's Bane. Make it 400 potency (same as the rear of trick attack) with the normal falloff that the full version gets. That way Ninja gets something at HW's end, and makes Huton have a use before Meisui. And like you said, there's not really anything going on during HW levels at this point

  • @ambercarbuncle1440p
    @ambercarbuncle1440p Місяць тому

    NEW WESKALBERT VID WOOOOOOO

  • @m-zero3146
    @m-zero3146 Місяць тому

    Appreciate the job guide as always.
    But one thing I would like to add is, 'Bunshin' should not pronounce 'ba' sound but 'bu' or 'boo' sound.
    The Japanese version is 分身の術 with 分 pronounced as bu-n (ぶん).
    So it should be bu-n shin/boo-n shin rather than ba-n shin.

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  Місяць тому

      I did say bu, not ba or bah

  • @Lorddraigo
    @Lorddraigo Місяць тому

    I just finished lvling NIN to 100 yesterday. I was so close to actually learning what to do 😭

  • @waffers6168
    @waffers6168 Місяць тому

    I forgot where to use your 3rd weapon skill. Thanks man, vpr got boring 😂

  • @TheKarishi
    @TheKarishi Місяць тому

    I'd argue that using Huton for Trick Attack is worthwhile on up to 3 enemies. On raw damage, it's going to do less initially -
    3 x 350 = 1050 vs 3 x 240 = 720 for a total difference of 330. subtract 300 for Trick Attack's initial damage, and you're behind by 30. If you'll do more than 300 potency to the Trick target in the next 15 seconds, that's more damage. If it kills early compared to the other targets, that helps lighten the healer's load earlier. And of course, it's good practice for endgame.
    With 4 targets you'd be behind by 140, and dealing 1400 AoE potency in 15 seconds is a big ask. I'm not sure you can do it even at 72 - I haven't done the math in that much detail.
    I imagine it'd be worth it in a trash pack like the one from Amdapor that you showed, where that goat has a LOT more health than the summoned ochus, but that's not really usable as a standard thing; only in specific cases where you know the dungeon by heart.

  • @LawHeartfillia
    @LawHeartfillia Місяць тому

    im doing a game where I try to guess the next job for the levelling skills guide. got it wrong again this time!

  • @JRZTT
    @JRZTT Місяць тому

    I really love the artistic of this class, but dislike how punishing it was compare to other class.
    1) Mudra fail is a huge dps lost, ok normally but when lag spike it then yeah it whether u got Shuriken, or rabbit. :P Wish it was like Dancer but I get why they done that and work if fail it still get us something or refund Mudra like Monk you lost aoe dps but still get a sign still dps lost but better than rabbit which do nothing.
    2) TCJ punish for even a slight movement, wish it work like Lay Line so you can move slightly if accidentally press it.

  • @nettlesomenpc889
    @nettlesomenpc889 Місяць тому

    Damn, just when i was thinking of leveling it too lmao

  • @Vyt3x
    @Vyt3x Місяць тому

    Love playing NIN, but damn was it a bad choice to go Marauder to lvl 10 and then play NIN through to the end of endwalker... I was struggling big time learning my rotation, while my friends were playing stuff like White mage and summoner...

  • @aricwilson9711
    @aricwilson9711 Місяць тому

    Cheers to Alaimbert of the Spiked Butt for his guest appearance. 🎉

  • @Salty_SeaBear
    @Salty_SeaBear 12 днів тому

    I'm newer to the job, took a break from the game for 8 years because... life. Loved leveling rogue but it feels like I need to pick up a second language just to understand this rotation.😅

  • @axis1247
    @axis1247 Місяць тому

    I still accidentally pre pull Huton sometimes and wonder why I'm not getting the buff.

  • @kisaLuver
    @kisaLuver День тому

    Is there a hotbar video for Red Mage? I tried to rearrange it for how my brain works and I just made it worse 🙃

  • @Songfulfire
    @Songfulfire Місяць тому

    Every time I see a Ninja place Doton on a single target boss outside of pre-pull I can't help but mutter out loud to myself "Raiton is better than Doton, Raiton is better than Doton..."

  • @joshuaford3760
    @joshuaford3760 9 днів тому

    idk if its just me but im not getting a second Bhavacakra for the level 70 opener...

  • @popay7600
    @popay7600 Місяць тому

    can we use doton on no enemies now?

  • @mikereyes2269
    @mikereyes2269 Місяць тому

    TCJ has to be the most punishing button to press in the game. Any slight movement screws the entire thing up.

    • @nerdicusdorkum2923
      @nerdicusdorkum2923 Місяць тому

      Many times I've pressed it, just to see myself in a damage marker. I then have to decide if I can do it quick enough and get out, if I can just accept the vuln stack, or just bail and miss out on the 3k potency.
      Just remember dying is the biggest dps loss. Even if ya get raised immediately, the minute of debuff will outdo missing out on 3k potency. I'd only ever recommend taking the vuln stack if you know you can dodge the rest of the mechanics, and this was just a case of unfortunate timing.

  • @rikkupendragon8372
    @rikkupendragon8372 9 днів тому

    Bunshin will not activate for me when I try to do my aoe opener

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  9 днів тому

      Are you making sure to Dokumori first?

  • @ode-blu
    @ode-blu Місяць тому

    *Angry pan clapping sounds*

  • @shavenweasel
    @shavenweasel Місяць тому +1

    I'm a F2P player so I skipped directly to the level 70 opener. I don't have ninja at 70 and I don't speak Japanese. I had -15% idea what was going on. I will do nothing to correct this.

  • @Goosey_Loosey
    @Goosey_Loosey Місяць тому

    "i don't know why there's such a long blank section here"
    my brother in christ you edited the video lol

  • @sirlenemodesto2665
    @sirlenemodesto2665 Місяць тому

    Time to steal Wesk's Ninpo cheat guide yet again.

  • @lushdontu4015
    @lushdontu4015 Місяць тому +4

    What's the point of playing Ninja when you can play the reaper and viper that's easier and stronger? I'm not trying to be rude i just want to know why?

    • @StriderZessei
      @StriderZessei Місяць тому +1

      Some players appreciate the challenge. Also, the ninja's party utility is far greater than viper's.

    • @BionicLatino
      @BionicLatino Місяць тому +2

      Easier is relative

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  Місяць тому +11

      @@lushdontu4015 Most people play games to have fun. Not chase a meta of barely any extra DPS

    • @bum1628
      @bum1628 Місяць тому

      Front flip

    • @felixryan9798
      @felixryan9798 Місяць тому +1

      Because NIN is extremely useful in raiding still, despite the “difficulty”. On the higher end of raiding, NIN funnels more potency into burst, thus benefitting buff-heavy comps more than VPR would. VPR, if played optimally, does require you to do some shenanigans that drift your burst out of the party buffs.