I will never forget watching the raids and seeing each raid group come to the realization they could save Hourchefant. Hearing them all scream HEAL HIM and having the chat spam SAVE HIM over and over. I've never experienced such a collective community moment like that before. It was incredible.
I personally feel that not enough praise and respect is given to Nakagawa Masaki and his team who designed every single raid in the game, tested whether it can be cleared (sanely) and then threw it to yoshiP who cried mercy during his own testing. The mechanics, story, choreography, the dance that they force the players into, all so perfectly designed and calculated. This team love their game, and it clearly shows.
It's really clever the lb2 vs lb3 mechanic, cause when Haurchefaunt dies, you're fighting through The Vault, a Dungeon, where you'd only have lb2 available. Such a clever call back to that moment, while giving a hint of how to do it right. So incredibly clever, I'm not an Ultimate player, but boy do I love seeing the design Squenix can pull out.
Honestly one of my favorite parts of this fight is that the very first time that damned spear became targetable you saw the agro line of every single fucking player in the game wanting it dead
The thought to block the spear thrown by the knight is a result of the mechanic in thordan extreme where you block the spears being thrown at the healer.
For years since Haurchefant’s death, players had long been asking if there was a way to save him. If there was something different that could be done. And this showed what could have happened. The Dragonsong War at its absolute worst. Just showing us that Haurchefant and Ysayle both needed to die for the best possible outcome. It was heartbreaking then, and it was heartbreaking watching this all unfold. A masterpiece of a fight.
@stormvexed thats true, but I think it also misses an important point. Whenever something bad happens, it is painful, and sometimes there's no greater purpose. Other times, though, in some terrible way, it led to the current reality. Wondering about what ifs and could have beens has a bit of a detrimental effect on people. That is for narratives, but also for life. I've long been convinced that in other stories, like ff7, sparing characters would always have a cost. Save Aerith, Tifa dies. Save Zack, Cloud suffers worse.
I keep wondering... is Alexander responsible for that? Shanoa, their -- familiar, is the best word for it -- was around before and after Alexander's awakening. And they spared us because our survival resulted in the best timeline...
Oh wow, I hadn’t even realized this video was about an hour long. I was that invested that the hour just flew by. I will likely never do Ultimates due to difficulties remembering mechanics (I struggle with tunnel vision towards my crossbars just doing my rotation as it is), so something like this made my day. I play FFXIV for the story and man, this raid delivers even if I’ve never touched it. I won’t lie, the realization that Haurchefant could be saved here had me in tears regardless of what the consequences are in that particular timeline. I still miss him as does my WoL. Thank you for sharing this, for you gave me the chance to see a storyline play out that I don’t have the skill to see play out for myself. Regardless of how difficult this is, the story that plays out is both tragic yet marvelous to me.
And here's a new can of worms to think about...the result of the alternate timeline...Ilberd normally would use the eyes of Nidhogg to attack Baelsar's Wall, which would lead us into Stormblood as the reason to go into Gyr Abania and Doma, that's not there in the alternate timeline, so what would be the reason to enter Gyr Abania; if at all? Then we get to Garlemald's secret weapon...we wouldn't have been able to delay it, nor even meet Zenos; who normally would stop it entirely because he wanted nothing to stop him and the player from a fight...which he doesn't because he hasn't met the player yet. Omega and Shinryu doesn't happen either. TL;DR: Does saving Harchefant bring about the 7th Umbral Calamity? OR do we still get a visit to Shadowbringers?
Recall that the eyes were not the only thing Ilberd used. He did disguise his forces in eorzean GC gear so even without the eyes we would have been dragged into the Ala Mhigan war (though with Papalymo alive) but what about moving forward to Omega's raids? Hraesvelgr is the dragon that saves us as the rift collapses upon Omega's defeat and destruction, how would we escape that scenario? Or would we just so happen to clash with Omega just right to trigger what was seen in his Ultimate, TOP?
Shadowbringers happens because of Crystal Tower, so we'd still go anyways. We just wouldn't have Zenos cleaning up the problem for us over on the Source. And that's assuming Ilberd isn't just given the Heart of Sabik, an Allagan relic, or some other Aether-heavy artifact instead to carry out his plans and still lead us into Stormblood.
@@wakkaseta8351 that makes sense, since it's the Ascians who pushed Ilberd to use the 'eyes' along with the despair and hatred of the dead to help create the powerful primal Shinryuu. So the guess that the ascians could give him another powerful relic or something similar would very likely still happen, though with a different result of what the primal might look like since Shinryuu's appearance was connected to the draconic power Niddhog's eyes still held
Its also interesting to note how it affects the warring triad. Thordan didn't get around to absorbing or even awakening the Warring triad in this new timeline (he has to get the key from Bismarck himself instead of swooping in to steal it from us). If the warring triad never awakens, Varis' closest friend Regula van Hydrus never dies while saving an enemy child (unukhalhai). He was the one who suggested teaming up with us to fight the triad. He is loyal towards Varis wholeheartedly but also wants to protect the world, as misguided as he is. I don't think he would've stood idly by for the Black Rose plan. I'm not even sure if Varis himself would have so readily submitted to the ascians plans if he wasn't just left alone with no one but grandpa emet and elidibus piloting Zenos' corpse.
I don't do ultimates and honestly I had to pick up my jaw from the floor when I finished watching your video. I had no idea this fight was such a masterwork. Not only the fight design and mechanics, but from a story telling perspective too, I'm seriously mind-blown. Bonus points for the excellent video, I'd love to see more such fight-analyses in the same style. Thanks, it was a treat :D
@@AzureRoxethat boss is not supposed to be beatable, its just player found a way to survive and chip damage the boss. Beating that is not hard, but a test of endurance and boredom
If you play the meta, yes. Not everyone does. Even then, there's a reason you get a variety of parsers. Player skill always comes into play no matter what the meta is.@@HateradeConsumer
Not only this fight, but I've always tell my friend how Haurchefaunt death was so important for the game it marked a before and after. On ARR we see death, but our alies are usually fine, Thancred goes back to normal, on the bloody banquet the most brutal "death" is Nanamo's and Teledji's, however Teledji was no ally and with the brutality it hold not a single drop of blood. Later on we also find out Nanamo is alive. Moenbryda is also an ally who died, but it was so fast many barely got time to get a liking of her. That's when Haurchefaunt comes in, we have been knowing him for a while, he was an ally who somehow managed it for us to go into Ishgard, he fought by ourside a bunch of times and broke the game's logic where every NPC askes you for help and do suicide missions but you don't question the storyline because it's game, until you find out Haurchafant had to be restrained and stopped to go after you because even if it's a game, he has some more logic than the rest of NPC, he was way too aware and the game punished him by showing us the first actual brutal death in front of our eyes, with blood spilling and most importantly not having a "he actually survived" twist like with Nanamo, he stayed death as a mark for us to now awknowloadge that any of our allies could die, our favorite characters could be gone in one moments and that from Heavensward and forward the story would be more brutal, sad and with so much lost so we'd better get ready for it.
haurchefant's death was also hella rough cause when he comes to save you you're like HELL YEA! MY BOY haurchefant! then he dies and you're like FUCK WHAT?! NOOOOOooooo!!! GOD DAMMIT you should have just stayed home you heroic bastard! it was super impactful and made you so invested. fucking magnificent. i love that this ultimate fight gave the players what they demanded, but the devs really wanted to make you WORK for it. if you want to save haurchefaunt so badly understand what his sacrifice really meant! THIS WHOLE SLOG is what haurchefaunt gave his life to save you from! hahaha.
@@KB_13247 yeah, to see how messed up things would of been if our boy didn't sacrifice himself is very impactful, tbh I'm someone who always cleans the regional sidequests before keep on going, but after first timing the Vault I just ignored everything and focused on MSQ until Thordan was taken down at least. The game makes you love Haurchefant and after he dies makes YOU and all NPC's rush thirsty for revange which is what gives Thordan no time.
also, Haurchefant's death was the first time my player character really EMOTED. I was caught off guard by how much it was affecting them. "Oh shit... you're you, Not just me." And the dark knight quest really compounded that together for me.
this raid basically throws open a shitload of alternate reimagining of events happened in FF14, one i would love to see is Hades reimagined or at the very least a different timeline where Yotsuyu survived the Tsukuyomi debacle
Just as this raid exemplifies. Sometimes certain people have to die for the best outcome. If Yotsuyu had survived. Things could have been far worse. Or Hades could have easily annihilated The First. Yet, there are so many possibilities. A lot of them are rarely for the better.
Great retrospective, which gives people who didn't watch the race or maybe just don't want to do Ultimate the chance to see the story unfold. This should be required viewing for anyone commenting on Ultimates and raiding, amazing work
Some people can't do it even if they want to, in my case the server delays make it difficult even for the Extremes. This makes me consider moving to another country to have a ping of 30
Yeah. With a ping of 300, even Savage is clutch. You get used to it, you just consistently need to be ahead of EVERY telegraph (because it's already happened), but for very fine and precise movement like this, and even more on top, coordinating random things that you can't exactly memorize? Yeah, no. This kind of retrospective is the only way we get to see it.
People talk about the way they simplified a lot of standard content and made it easier for everyone, but stuff like this is an example of the sort of "a place for everything, and everything in it's place" philosophy that FFXIV has implemented. And it works tremendously. Thanks for this retrospective of DSR. I missed this completely when it was live and it has brought so much for me to chew on as an intermittent FFXIV player.
this. finding people to not pug fights is hard, but doing savage with pugs is absolutely shit. and even doing it with non-pug, it's hard depending who it is, and it also forces you to play at specific time of the week with them to prog, which I am not really a fan of, i'm more a sporadic '''in the moment'' person. If that day I feel like playing something , then i play it. harder extreme and savage 1 are still puggable if you really want to, but you can only go so far with only one or two fight . I kinda just abandonned the savage and even extreme field for now, endwalker just burned me out at p3s (with non-pug, at that). completed that one once and now i cannot listen to that dang song. Dungeons aren't my thing and normal trials are too easy. there's really no middle ground much for people who want harder content but don't want to schedule spots on their week for progging a raid fight. Closest i think for me is palace of the dead/ heaven on high type of content, or bozja's dungeon, those were chaotic fun... @@blushingralseiuwu2222
There's no middle ground and that's the issue. Yes, dungeons have been turned into snoozefests for the sake of the most casual of casual players. EX and Savage are a little on the too hard for the middle ground side. Ultimates are for the elite. But where's the content for those of us who miss the OG fights and dungeons that were punishing but could be done after a few wipes? I've yet to have a full wipe in any normal content since the Ivalice raids, with the rare exception of someone doing it intentionally to troll.
A good ultimate doesn't change the fact that the jobs get dumbed down and less fun every expansion. "A place for everything" means you're telling people to accept that the game itself is boring to play and content should make up for the boring aspects.
It's really rare to have someone willing to make well-edited, long-form video content, who also plays and competes at the level required to give the content, but more importantly the experience of playing in and watching the race itself, justice. This video sent me right back to the immediate 'oh god what does that even mean' when we noticed our LB stayed at 2 bars during P1, the joy of progging to a new phase and getting to hear the OST change from my own POV, rather than a stream, all the way through the sound of his solemn vow being broken for the god-knows-what'th time, basking in the moment during the P6 transition, and finally popping off with my group on our clear. I think it's really important to have someone out there who can truly capture what it was like to be there, in a way that an otherwise eloquent content creator couldn't just from watching bits of the race and getting the fight explained to them second-hand. You did good with this one :D As a personal thing, I'm just a dime-a-dozen week 1 healer, but you've always been one of the players I've looked up to as a progression healer since I started in late ShB, and I hope you're doing well
DSR is still my most favorite ultimate (sorry TEA) just because of how narrative heavy it is. It was an amazing experience, getting to know what would’ve happened if we saved Haurchefant, and how much it would impact the story. Progging it was a challenge too, but a rewarding one, all big mechanics give dopamine when executed cleanly. Thanks for recreating the feeling of watching the world race again, Rin. Great video ❤
Only about halfway through the video, but one thing that is so damn cool about this is Thoughts Per Second posting seconds long clips with no context. It adds a mystique to the fight that has me on the edge of my seat even knowing pretty much all the mechanics in this fight. I have only heard about this ultimate from people looking back on the fight after they cleared it, so these little tidbits tend to be forgotten when doing retrospective videos, so I am glad you kept them in. You are quickly becoming my new favorite XIV youtuber :)
The reddit threads and ingame chats of some DCs exploding when Krile got to the intermission and people started figuring out what needed to be done was amazing, even casuals who had never done even an extreme were curious, and I think thats what makes this ult so special, an amazing fight with amazing storytelling. Please do more of these, I loved the UWU retrospective, this one is even better! The way you told the story elaborates on the challenges well enough for my friends who don't raid, or even play the game, to understand mostly what was happening, which was a nice touch
It's kinda interesting to me how different the groups acted in the progression for the fights. I watched today your video about Ultima Weapon (Unreal) and thought it was awesome that all the groups worked together and swapped information with each other to solve this in-fight puzzle on how to get the buffs on the primals. And in this fight here? Hush, hush and be silent, even quit your streaming if needed so the others don't get information! I get it, it is a race for the world first kill for this fight. But this are differences like day and night!
It's a common tactic in the Destiny 2 community for day 1 raids, actually. Mute the stream audio so people can't hear the strategy since there's bound to be stream snipers looking to gain the advantage
@@chelsthegameruiner8669 True, but it feels so different tbh. Like... it's just a game. Why all this intense secrecy? Fair enough though, it's your game, and your choice to do with it as you please.
I cleared Bahamut , and let me tell you my team was on that for weeks. It took us like 10 weeks of practice to get it down. And that's not exactly as hard as TEA or Omega. I'll never do another. Deliberately took on the easiest ultimate I could just to get the achievement.
If you ever consider going back to Ultimates, I've heard UWU is easier than UCOB! I cleared UWU in Party Finder in a couple of months, only progging on and off, not dedicated. In total I spent about 50 hours in instance, but it would have been a lot less time if I had been progging with a static. It's fast paced but not as randomized and "precise" as UCOB, as far as I can tell. @@craigwheeler4760
Great Video. I still remember watching the streams. I was on vacation with my GF, we both had different streams open and switched between all the streams, watching the ones with the furthest prog and cheering them on after a wipe. It was a great experience for the viewers and a lot of fun to watch the prog.
@@SPB___ It was a lazy beach vacation. So there was quite a bit of time we just relaxed at the pool/ in our room. Especially during the 2nd half when the race started. Sunburn made some actvitys not fun.
I won't lie. Being someone who doesn't do these raids, the moment I realized they saved Haurchefant, I felt a surge of emotion and legit started crying. That moment will forever mess with me. Q_Q
I had the exact same reaction except i knew he could be saved in this fight cuz it was spoiled for me. But when i actually saw it happen and then him just being winded asking if we were unharmed. I started crying.
@@MoonBearization I’ve never done savage and I never thought they’d even think to do something like that so I was legit shocked. The thumbnail was what caught my attention immediately, I was hurt when we see it happen again, and then when they finally saved him in the redo I just started crying. 😭
your narration is so good! i'm a casual player that's been watching at the sidelines for years but your retelling made me feel the goosebumps i felt back then watching the prog live when these ultimates just came out and the race was ongoing!!! so so good!!! please keep up the good work
As an EW baby that was taking my time with the story and all the side content when this fight came out and is now working through end game raiding i cannot express how much I appreciate these raid retrospecrives to be able to better understand and connect with the state of things that I was around for but unable to fully grasp at the time. Thank you for sharing this work with us all we are blessed by your efforts!
i do want to say thank you for slowing down mechanic clips to explain them. as someone who already gets overwhelmed sometimes in normal level content (lol) i really appreciate it
I love this longer form content on the history of the ulti progs. I was there for the TOP prog but didnt get to experience the others, so being able to see just how it unfolded and what the best parts of prog were is really interesting. Thanks for the good video!
From what I looked up. TPS was caught RMT (Real Money Trading) or at least some major members were. Thus, a lot of members bailed quickly to keep from being nuked in a massive bomb ban. So I've quickly looked up. >.>@@SPB___
This is utterly incredible, I really feel like I'm in the moment of watching this race play out watching this, and hearing the mechanics explained in the way that you do really makes me understand them in a way I might not otherwise. I would LOVE to see similar retrospectives for other Ultimates, explaining them in the form of a story rather than just a purely analytical guide. Seeing the history behind them, the mechanics, the spectacle, the race around it, all of that good stuff!
thank you for this video, i loved it! as a disabled ffxiv player, i often avoid the challenging optional fights in game cause i simply can't keep up with it physically or mentally, and it's such a joy to see content i'd otherwise never see laid out so concisely! i remember being online when this dropped and everyone was talking about saving haurchefaunts life and all i could think was huh ??? whats going on ?? and i spent hours trying to find out what was happening without actually playing it for myself. it was such a magical time in the game even for the people simply observing and not playing it for themselves and i'll always remember how fun it was, and now i have knowledge of how the prog and mechanics actually worked so thanks for that!
Thank you so much for taking the time to put this video together. You’ve all but encapsulated my feelings towards Dsr! I’m a newer player and when I saw snippets of the world race it inspired me to make that my first ultimate clear! I remained unspoiled past p3 and have since cleared it as my first ultimate! The joy, the tears, the relief from finally clearing was undiscribable. I hope in the future I have half as much fun as I did with DSR! So far uwu prog.. hasn’t been as fun!😅
I remember being there, hopping around streams, always coming back to cheer for the Cerberus fellas. Taking mad notes all the time and trying to understand with you runners the struggle. Cheers for the most fun I had on twitch ever, I had a blast with you during this run, and I'm glad to be able to relive this again, even if I'll probably never clear an ultimate myself ❤
Maaan... the quality oif this video is amazing. I cannot imagine the time you invested planing the video, the script, looking for footage, editing, recording and tranversal to all that: the knowledge of the game, mechanics, memes, social networks.. amazing. Thanks for doing this.
After clearing that fight by myself in PF and then seeing this video makes me so emotional. You literally relive all the stress and then the excitement and relief when you finally see that achievement at the end. Crying everytime again
I cried watching this since I started this day one and it took so long since our static used our own strats (which I am very happy with). Since we used our own stuff up until p6 and p7 - we had a lot of arguments, drama, and of course real life took a turn for some members requiring us to find new people to adopt to our strats, it took a good 3000+ runs for the original members to get the clear. But man that clear felt so good. We finally signed off DSR after clearing it 3x in a row in 1 session, ending it in a memorable night of 1 shotting from beginning to end and watching this video ALMOST made me want to go back in again since it was such a rich fight, but man I remember the pain and agony of .3% p7 enrages and I don’t wanna suffer in PF XD. So thank you so much for reminding me why I suffered and laughed for so long. Working on that 4th and 5th titles now xD
Honestly, Haurchefant always was my favourite character and every time they hinted something about him or showed him or made his iconic phrase show up (looking at you end of Shadowbringers!) I started crying again and to this day it was so hard for me to let this wonderful character go. I even visit his grave ingame sometimes. But seeing this now makes me understand how important his death was and that he simply had to die, otherwise everything would've been far worse. Seeing this really helped me accepting his death and be at peace with it. What an amazing raid. Just wow.
DSR means a lot to me as a fight since I feel like it's what brought me out of my shell a bit as an XIV player, and probably the best/most fun experience I've had progging any fight. So watching this video has been a lot of fun and a good trip down memory lane, 100% one of the most enjoyable and interactive world races I think and hopefully we'll see another just like it in Dawntrail. Really good work on this one Rin! 🙌
Warching videos like this remind me of why I want to get better in the game, why I work so hard to learn the mechanics of things, and how to play better with others. First to clear or not, these fights are amazing and I look forward to clearing my first one.
Do it today. I started the game 6 months ago, 4 months ago I discovered what ultimates were and since then I have been clearing them one by one 100% on PF. As of right now I just cleared DSR and I'm only pending to do TOP. Believe in your ability and you got this.
Your video is actually the first video I've ever seen about an FFXIV Raid and it was captivating. Thank you for sharing this piece of history! I'm very new to FFXIV, I just started on Leviathan this month. Sadly I'm only on the trial at this time, will be investing at the end of the month. I do intend on doing... attempting.. ALL content at some point so to get a glimpse of the challenge ahead is awesome. Final Fantasy always had epic bosses that were so enticing to fight in the past so to see them go even further in difficulty is quite impressive.
i always wanted a group to clear all trials and savage synced to see the difficulty and fun, aand a tip, play slow, no hurry, feel the lore, explore, you wont 'regret
Awesome video and recap and couldn't agree more. DSR was an emotional journey to follow just as a viewer, no other race had me as invested and excited.
I’m glad you mentioned how impactful twitch chat was. For me it was the first ultimate race I watched live and it was genuinely a blast to see people cheering eveyrone on. Sadly that wasn’t the case for TOP- I couldn’t find like anyone streaming or even talking about it on socials cause everyone wanted to hide their progress in it.
Absolutely amazing commentary and lovely editing. Please keep up the great work! Would be awesome to see your view on TOP or the older ultimates as well, if you have the time as it would give players that weren't there a lot of insight on the amazing history of ultimates. Thank you.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that. If there ends up being the interest in this video I'd love to make a couple more on other previous races in FFXIV that I thought were significant for various reasons!
amazing and emotional video. i remember hearing about the progging for DSR through that week but i had been very busy with work at the time so I wasnt around to experience it first hand. Glad i could get a touch of what i missed through this vid :)
This is my favorite fight in the game. Watching the twitch community unite, casuals and hardcore players invested in different parts of the fight, the support from the communities, it was mt favorite time in my whole experience of being part of the ffxiv community. This video is great, im excited for more
Watching this prog live with chats was insane. It felt like story enjoyers and raiders came together for once and it was truly a rare occurrence. I can only hope one day we get something like it again. 10/10 Video, artists are fed for a hour.🙏
Incredibly well put out video, I got friends that don't really raid at high level but you explained things in such a basic and cohesive way that they will surely get a kick watching this!. Just a mention on Phase 5, when you were wondering why people were considering blocking the Knight's Spear, it was most likely because in the Extreme version of Thordan's fight you had to do exactly that, so it was most likely something that veteran raiders that did the fight were considering a solution at the time.
DSR was such an incredible time to be involved in raiding. The story, the prog, the Twitch memes; there were so many gut punches and mind-blowing developments. It was my first on-patch Ultimate, and I'll forever be grateful for that experience.
As neat as this was to watch, it reminded me of exactlu why I don't do the super hard content in this game, this stuff is *way* beyond my skill level, lol.
This is an incredible retelling of the battle of Ultimate progression. I remember watching bits and pieces of the World Race on my phone while I was at work and getting home. To see the entire story captured in a long-form video is incredibly satisfying. Thank you.
This was an amazing and definitive play-by-play breakdown of not just the mechanics but also the narrative of DSR, as well as the major events surrounding and leading up to it! I also love how you incorporated the reactions of the streamers and internet, and significant clips throughout. Incredible editing! If you ever decide to make a similar video for TOP, or any other significant raid tiers or ultimates, I would absolutely be here for that.
peepoArrive Baldo got Wigged peepoArrive Potato smashed peepoArrive Village burned peepoArrive Banana peeled. Such good memories for watching the race and seeing the community coming together cheering on it.
I remember watching this live on twitch. Im not a raider, and ive never had an interest in even savage let alone clearing an ultimate. But I was so drawn into this. The narrative and the race. Seeing people compete in content I'd never be good enough to do myself, and a story of what if for characters I love. It was wonderful.
I am sad that even as a more serious player, I likely will never experience this fight in its entirety. However, even just seeing it vicariously through others completing it, I am happy to see it. The amount of times I damn near burst into tears about the story line of this fight alone, I have no words for. No other video game I have ever played in my lifetime will ever bring me to tears the way simply mentioning Haurchefant's name will. Congrats to those who can complete this fight, and bravo to the team responsible for making this fight a reality.
Dude this is awsome, destiny 2 have a guy who does this kind of content aswell where he goes on to tell events from the community prespective, always wanted ffxiv to have it too and here it is! Keep up the amazing work!! Love the vid
I usually don’t leave comments but this style of video kinda reminds me of what Evan does with his documentaries in the Destiny 2 community. This was really good and I would really like to see more content like this especially a documentary like this but on TOP
Thank you so much for making this video. DSR was a piece of gaming history I couldn't participate in. I'm a mid-tier player with slow reaction times, minimal endurance for prog grind, etc etc the list goes on. :')
DSR was the first Ultimate I was actively watching the race for and goddamn it was amazing to be apart of the twitch chats during it all, it was such a community event
There’s been many times I have disagreed with things you’ve said, but seeing the passion you felt while doing this video plus the fight itself made me have chills several times. I’m really looking forward similar videos with the rest of ultimates.
It really does bum me out knowing there's a whole plethora of content in FF14 that I'll never bring myself to touch from the sheer weight of anxiety alone.
That’s how I felt about savage content at first, until I tried to blind prog pandemonium on release think, well no one knows what they’re doing so this is my best chance…. Pf will take that anxiety away instantly because almost everyone is bad there including myself
Alternatively to what yink says above, my foray into savage happened with friends. I was an anxious, stressed out mess, but they were super gentle with me and made it clear that we were there to have fun and prog means progress, not necessarily completion. Relax and have fun with it. Run the content with folks who arent there to take things too seriously, and you can have a ton of fun even with the anxiety.
when i first started in ARR (quit then and got back into it near the end of HW) i was a complete noob. then in SB i joined my first static (an FC 1) which also died in the 3rd fight due to lack of progress. i've seen UCOB and UWU release and saw the prog of it, even said "no way i'm ever touching that" in SHB for the 1st time i cleared a raid tier (SB had a lot of petty drama which disbanded statics) and i cleared both the 2nd and 3rd tier. then in EW i joined a static that i cleared the 1st 2 tiers with, progged to the final fight of the 3rd tier before leaving because lack of prog and constantly people leaving setting us back. but in that static we also started instantly on DSR's release with an ultimate (being DSR) we tried a lot but went back to savage for the 2nd tier and back to DSR after the 2nd tier (and back to savage for the 3rd tier, another reason i quit that static) me and a friend from that static ended up resorting to PF and clear DSR and it was an amazing experience. start small, plenty of casual statics (2 days a week 3 hours a session) for UwU, the easiest ultimate right now, the fight is for the 1st half on basically extreme level, only gets hard once you get to the 2nd part (which is ultima) once you got a taste for ultimates, you'll look completely different at savage.
this is an absolutely well done video, I wasn't following at the time but i've done DSR and man the story that they made for this fight is just amazing, I can't imagine how awesome it would have been to be seeing these things for the first time
Thank you so much for so aptly capturing one of the coolest moments in FF history, it was great to relive the race and remember all the incredible moments DSR brought the community
I dont really do the harder content nor much care for it, im a casual player through and through. But this Ultimate, this was constantly on my mind and on my feed when it came out. The time loop was the single coolest mechanic ive ever seen in a game, going back to save Haurchefant. I still vividly remember the moment of realization "Wait there's a time loop, nothing is changed, its the exact same, how do we escape it, why are we here, how-... oh my god do we have to save Haurchefant?"
this video was incredible, after watching this and the TOP video you did, I can't wait to see the Edens video in a year. your story telling really brings me back to the moments when I was doing these fights myself
I'm kind of surprised splitting the buffs in eyes was a prevailing theory. Each buff has a portion of an image if viewed from the top. When combined, they paint a complete picture. The game gives you positive feedback right away for stacking them.
this was one of the best ff14 videos. Im relatively new casual player and Im really interested in these events so this was perfect for me thanks. you really opened my eyes for higher tier content
The DSR launch had the perfect setup, amazing story, amazing fight and everyone hyped up for the first ultimate after the WoW exodus. Twitch was something special for that prog and i enjoyed every moment of it as a viewer and as someone progging it.
Thank you so much for covering this! I am a relatively new player who have generally caught up in MSQ but can't see myself trying out Ultimate fights for my own. Your retelling is amazing and full of passion and it just feels like being brought in an endless emotional roller coaster mixing between pain and grief from the story and hype for the progs back to back to back! I definitely will try the raid for myself someday. (when I'm more confident in my skills lol) Awesome awesome video!!
Wow, you made an hour go by almost instantly, great video! But now I feel like I should do DSR at some point and I'm already dreading the double dragon phase T-T
Great docummentary. I hope this gets even more views. As for the question at the end of the video... With the storylines that we currently have and assuming they don't break their pattern of only making ultimates out of raid series and MSQ.... I think the only possible candidate is the eventual Shadowbringers MSQ Ultimate.
I just started playing FF 14 a couple months ago, but have been playing MMOs off and on since 2005 or so. This is the exact type of content I was looking for in regards to this game, and so well done!
6:53 what the fuck
what the fuc-
I will never forget watching the raids and seeing each raid group come to the realization they could save Hourchefant. Hearing them all scream HEAL HIM and having the chat spam SAVE HIM over and over. I've never experienced such a collective community moment like that before. It was incredible.
I personally feel that not enough praise and respect is given to Nakagawa Masaki and his team who designed every single raid in the game, tested whether it can be cleared (sanely) and then threw it to yoshiP who cried mercy during his own testing.
The mechanics, story, choreography, the dance that they force the players into, all so perfectly designed and calculated. This team love their game, and it clearly shows.
I agree, they put in so much effort, they deserve more love!!
It's really clever the lb2 vs lb3 mechanic, cause when Haurchefaunt dies, you're fighting through The Vault, a Dungeon, where you'd only have lb2 available. Such a clever call back to that moment, while giving a hint of how to do it right. So incredibly clever, I'm not an Ultimate player, but boy do I love seeing the design Squenix can pull out.
The "Wait, we can have LB3 now" was such a mindblowing moment in progging.
Watching it in *this* video had me and my wife tearing up when the realization hit.
@@Pyre Has to be a satire comment lmaooo
Honestly one of my favorite parts of this fight is that the very first time that damned spear became targetable you saw the agro line of every single fucking player in the game wanting it dead
it went down as fast as an ARR S rank on saturday.
I love this community some times.
"Target Acquired"
The thought to block the spear thrown by the knight is a result of the mechanic in thordan extreme where you block the spears being thrown at the healer.
For years since Haurchefant’s death, players had long been asking if there was a way to save him. If there was something different that could be done. And this showed what could have happened. The Dragonsong War at its absolute worst. Just showing us that Haurchefant and Ysayle both needed to die for the best possible outcome. It was heartbreaking then, and it was heartbreaking watching this all unfold. A masterpiece of a fight.
Nah they could have just written it differently.
@@stormvexedYeah 😂
@stormvexed thats true, but I think it also misses an important point. Whenever something bad happens, it is painful, and sometimes there's no greater purpose. Other times, though, in some terrible way, it led to the current reality. Wondering about what ifs and could have beens has a bit of a detrimental effect on people.
That is for narratives, but also for life. I've long been convinced that in other stories, like ff7, sparing characters would always have a cost. Save Aerith, Tifa dies. Save Zack, Cloud suffers worse.
I keep wondering... is Alexander responsible for that? Shanoa, their -- familiar, is the best word for it -- was around before and after Alexander's awakening. And they spared us because our survival resulted in the best timeline...
Naw he just needed a better shield.
Oh wow, I hadn’t even realized this video was about an hour long. I was that invested that the hour just flew by.
I will likely never do Ultimates due to difficulties remembering mechanics (I struggle with tunnel vision towards my crossbars just doing my rotation as it is), so something like this made my day. I play FFXIV for the story and man, this raid delivers even if I’ve never touched it.
I won’t lie, the realization that Haurchefant could be saved here had me in tears regardless of what the consequences are in that particular timeline. I still miss him as does my WoL.
Thank you for sharing this, for you gave me the chance to see a storyline play out that I don’t have the skill to see play out for myself. Regardless of how difficult this is, the story that plays out is both tragic yet marvelous to me.
And here's a new can of worms to think about...the result of the alternate timeline...Ilberd normally would use the eyes of Nidhogg to attack Baelsar's Wall, which would lead us into Stormblood as the reason to go into Gyr Abania and Doma, that's not there in the alternate timeline, so what would be the reason to enter Gyr Abania; if at all? Then we get to Garlemald's secret weapon...we wouldn't have been able to delay it, nor even meet Zenos; who normally would stop it entirely because he wanted nothing to stop him and the player from a fight...which he doesn't because he hasn't met the player yet. Omega and Shinryu doesn't happen either.
TL;DR: Does saving Harchefant bring about the 7th Umbral Calamity? OR do we still get a visit to Shadowbringers?
Recall that the eyes were not the only thing Ilberd used. He did disguise his forces in eorzean GC gear so even without the eyes we would have been dragged into the Ala Mhigan war (though with Papalymo alive) but what about moving forward to Omega's raids? Hraesvelgr is the dragon that saves us as the rift collapses upon Omega's defeat and destruction, how would we escape that scenario? Or would we just so happen to clash with Omega just right to trigger what was seen in his Ultimate, TOP?
Shadowbringers happens because of Crystal Tower, so we'd still go anyways. We just wouldn't have Zenos cleaning up the problem for us over on the Source. And that's assuming Ilberd isn't just given the Heart of Sabik, an Allagan relic, or some other Aether-heavy artifact instead to carry out his plans and still lead us into Stormblood.
@@wakkaseta8351 that makes sense, since it's the Ascians who pushed Ilberd to use the 'eyes' along with the despair and hatred of the dead to help create the powerful primal Shinryuu. So the guess that the ascians could give him another powerful relic or something similar would very likely still happen, though with a different result of what the primal might look like since Shinryuu's appearance was connected to the draconic power Niddhog's eyes still held
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Its also interesting to note how it affects the warring triad. Thordan didn't get around to absorbing or even awakening the Warring triad in this new timeline (he has to get the key from Bismarck himself instead of swooping in to steal it from us). If the warring triad never awakens, Varis' closest friend Regula van Hydrus never dies while saving an enemy child (unukhalhai). He was the one who suggested teaming up with us to fight the triad. He is loyal towards Varis wholeheartedly but also wants to protect the world, as misguided as he is. I don't think he would've stood idly by for the Black Rose plan. I'm not even sure if Varis himself would have so readily submitted to the ascians plans if he wasn't just left alone with no one but grandpa emet and elidibus piloting Zenos' corpse.
I don't do ultimates and honestly I had to pick up my jaw from the floor when I finished watching your video. I had no idea this fight was such a masterwork. Not only the fight design and mechanics, but from a story telling perspective too, I'm seriously mind-blown. Bonus points for the excellent video, I'd love to see more such fight-analyses in the same style.
Thanks, it was a treat :D
It's ironic that a game outsiders often label casual and weeb has some of the most punishing content ever seen in an MMO.
I feel like every single Ultimate has at least 1 or 2 kino moments too, so good
Well, FFXI had THE most punishing with Absolute Virtue taking literal months to defeat, so FFXIV just wanted to make their big bro proud.
It's still weeb. 😂 but that's okay I'm used to weeb
@@AzureRoxethat boss is not supposed to be beatable, its just player found a way to survive and chip damage the boss. Beating that is not hard, but a test of endurance and boredom
If you play the meta, yes. Not everyone does.
Even then, there's a reason you get a variety of parsers. Player skill always comes into play no matter what the meta is.@@HateradeConsumer
Not only this fight, but I've always tell my friend how Haurchefaunt death was so important for the game it marked a before and after. On ARR we see death, but our alies are usually fine, Thancred goes back to normal, on the bloody banquet the most brutal "death" is Nanamo's and Teledji's, however Teledji was no ally and with the brutality it hold not a single drop of blood. Later on we also find out Nanamo is alive. Moenbryda is also an ally who died, but it was so fast many barely got time to get a liking of her.
That's when Haurchefaunt comes in, we have been knowing him for a while, he was an ally who somehow managed it for us to go into Ishgard, he fought by ourside a bunch of times and broke the game's logic where every NPC askes you for help and do suicide missions but you don't question the storyline because it's game, until you find out Haurchafant had to be restrained and stopped to go after you because even if it's a game, he has some more logic than the rest of NPC, he was way too aware and the game punished him by showing us the first actual brutal death in front of our eyes, with blood spilling and most importantly not having a "he actually survived" twist like with Nanamo, he stayed death as a mark for us to now awknowloadge that any of our allies could die, our favorite characters could be gone in one moments and that from Heavensward and forward the story would be more brutal, sad and with so much lost so we'd better get ready for it.
haurchefant's death was also hella rough cause when he comes to save you you're like HELL YEA! MY BOY haurchefant! then he dies and you're like FUCK WHAT?! NOOOOOooooo!!! GOD DAMMIT you should have just stayed home you heroic bastard! it was super impactful and made you so invested. fucking magnificent. i love that this ultimate fight gave the players what they demanded, but the devs really wanted to make you WORK for it. if you want to save haurchefaunt so badly understand what his sacrifice really meant! THIS WHOLE SLOG is what haurchefaunt gave his life to save you from! hahaha.
@@KB_13247 yeah, to see how messed up things would of been if our boy didn't sacrifice himself is very impactful, tbh I'm someone who always cleans the regional sidequests before keep on going, but after first timing the Vault I just ignored everything and focused on MSQ until Thordan was taken down at least. The game makes you love Haurchefant and after he dies makes YOU and all NPC's rush thirsty for revange which is what gives Thordan no time.
also, Haurchefant's death was the first time my player character really EMOTED. I was caught off guard by how much it was affecting them. "Oh shit... you're you, Not just me." And the dark knight quest really compounded that together for me.
@@nahnah390 true!
Man this death made me cry so much. It is so rare for me to cry that I sat for a few minutes in shock from it
this raid basically throws open a shitload of alternate reimagining of events happened in FF14, one i would love to see is Hades reimagined or at the very least a different timeline where Yotsuyu survived the Tsukuyomi debacle
Just as this raid exemplifies. Sometimes certain people have to die for the best outcome. If Yotsuyu had survived. Things could have been far worse. Or Hades could have easily annihilated The First. Yet, there are so many possibilities. A lot of them are rarely for the better.
@@Qardo one of the most likely possibilities is Eden, what if Gaia goes full Ascian
@@hoshi314 I mean, isn't that just P2 of E12s?
I Can Fix Her: Ultimate
@hoshi314 Well, got your wish. Eden is getting an Ultimate version. With a paradoxical event of a "What If?"
Great retrospective, which gives people who didn't watch the race or maybe just don't want to do Ultimate the chance to see the story unfold. This should be required viewing for anyone commenting on Ultimates and raiding, amazing work
Thank you so much!
I agree! As someone who hasn't done Ultimates but is interested in the story, this video is great. ❤
Some people can't do it even if they want to, in my case the server delays make it difficult even for the Extremes. This makes me consider moving to another country to have a ping of 30
Yeah. With a ping of 300, even Savage is clutch. You get used to it, you just consistently need to be ahead of EVERY telegraph (because it's already happened), but for very fine and precise movement like this, and even more on top, coordinating random things that you can't exactly memorize? Yeah, no. This kind of retrospective is the only way we get to see it.
People talk about the way they simplified a lot of standard content and made it easier for everyone, but stuff like this is an example of the sort of "a place for everything, and everything in it's place" philosophy that FFXIV has implemented. And it works tremendously. Thanks for this retrospective of DSR. I missed this completely when it was live and it has brought so much for me to chew on as an intermittent FFXIV player.
Yeah, players just need a middle ground between easier content, and ultimates. Some players still have trouble with savages too.
I wish there is more extreme to savage 1 difficulty contents in the game.
this. finding people to not pug fights is hard, but doing savage with pugs is absolutely shit. and even doing it with non-pug, it's hard depending who it is, and it also forces you to play at specific time of the week with them to prog, which I am not really a fan of, i'm more a sporadic '''in the moment'' person. If that day I feel like playing something , then i play it. harder extreme and savage 1 are still puggable if you really want to, but you can only go so far with only one or two fight . I kinda just abandonned the savage and even extreme field for now, endwalker just burned me out at p3s (with non-pug, at that). completed that one once and now i cannot listen to that dang song. Dungeons aren't my thing and normal trials are too easy. there's really no middle ground much for people who want harder content but don't want to schedule spots on their week for progging a raid fight. Closest i think for me is palace of the dead/ heaven on high type of content, or bozja's dungeon, those were chaotic fun... @@blushingralseiuwu2222
There's no middle ground and that's the issue. Yes, dungeons have been turned into snoozefests for the sake of the most casual of casual players. EX and Savage are a little on the too hard for the middle ground side. Ultimates are for the elite. But where's the content for those of us who miss the OG fights and dungeons that were punishing but could be done after a few wipes? I've yet to have a full wipe in any normal content since the Ivalice raids, with the rare exception of someone doing it intentionally to troll.
A good ultimate doesn't change the fact that the jobs get dumbed down and less fun every expansion. "A place for everything" means you're telling people to accept that the game itself is boring to play and content should make up for the boring aspects.
It's really rare to have someone willing to make well-edited, long-form video content, who also plays and competes at the level required to give the content, but more importantly the experience of playing in and watching the race itself, justice. This video sent me right back to the immediate 'oh god what does that even mean' when we noticed our LB stayed at 2 bars during P1, the joy of progging to a new phase and getting to hear the OST change from my own POV, rather than a stream, all the way through the sound of his solemn vow being broken for the god-knows-what'th time, basking in the moment during the P6 transition, and finally popping off with my group on our clear. I think it's really important to have someone out there who can truly capture what it was like to be there, in a way that an otherwise eloquent content creator couldn't just from watching bits of the race and getting the fight explained to them second-hand. You did good with this one :D
As a personal thing, I'm just a dime-a-dozen week 1 healer, but you've always been one of the players I've looked up to as a progression healer since I started in late ShB, and I hope you're doing well
DSR is still my most favorite ultimate (sorry TEA) just because of how narrative heavy it is. It was an amazing experience, getting to know what would’ve happened if we saved Haurchefant, and how much it would impact the story.
Progging it was a challenge too, but a rewarding one, all big mechanics give dopamine when executed cleanly.
Thanks for recreating the feeling of watching the world race again, Rin. Great video ❤
So if we had saved him shit would have gone HORRIBLY just as it does in the duty?
@@spacemarine6212 yeah pretty much, DSR is an alternative timeline
Only about halfway through the video, but one thing that is so damn cool about this is Thoughts Per Second posting seconds long clips with no context. It adds a mystique to the fight that has me on the edge of my seat even knowing pretty much all the mechanics in this fight. I have only heard about this ultimate from people looking back on the fight after they cleared it, so these little tidbits tend to be forgotten when doing retrospective videos, so I am glad you kept them in. You are quickly becoming my new favorite XIV youtuber :)
The reddit threads and ingame chats of some DCs exploding when Krile got to the intermission and people started figuring out what needed to be done was amazing, even casuals who had never done even an extreme were curious, and I think thats what makes this ult so special, an amazing fight with amazing storytelling.
Please do more of these, I loved the UWU retrospective, this one is even better! The way you told the story elaborates on the challenges well enough for my friends who don't raid, or even play the game, to understand mostly what was happening, which was a nice touch
ah yes, time to enjoy 50 minutes of ffxiv content
It's kinda interesting to me how different the groups acted in the progression for the fights.
I watched today your video about Ultima Weapon (Unreal) and thought it was awesome that all the groups worked together and swapped information with each other to solve this in-fight puzzle on how to get the buffs on the primals.
And in this fight here? Hush, hush and be silent, even quit your streaming if needed so the others don't get information!
I get it, it is a race for the world first kill for this fight. But this are differences like day and night!
It's a common tactic in the Destiny 2 community for day 1 raids, actually. Mute the stream audio so people can't hear the strategy since there's bound to be stream snipers looking to gain the advantage
@@chelsthegameruiner8669 True, but it feels so different tbh. Like... it's just a game. Why all this intense secrecy? Fair enough though, it's your game, and your choice to do with it as you please.
The Dragonsong Reprise was so memorable. It was a you had to be there moment in the history of this game.
I cleared Bahamut , and let me tell you my team was on that for weeks. It took us like 10 weeks of practice to get it down. And that's not exactly as hard as TEA or Omega. I'll never do another. Deliberately took on the easiest ultimate I could just to get the achievement.
If you ever consider going back to Ultimates, I've heard UWU is easier than UCOB! I cleared UWU in Party Finder in a couple of months, only progging on and off, not dedicated. In total I spent about 50 hours in instance, but it would have been a lot less time if I had been progging with a static. It's fast paced but not as randomized and "precise" as UCOB, as far as I can tell. @@craigwheeler4760
I was there but didn't raid, certainly regret it after seeing this video.
Great Video.
I still remember watching the streams. I was on vacation with my GF, we both had different streams open and switched between all the streams, watching the ones with the furthest prog and cheering them on after a wipe.
It was a great experience for the viewers and a lot of fun to watch the prog.
You guys took a vacation and spent it watching people play a video game...?
@@SPB___
It was a lazy beach vacation.
So there was quite a bit of time we just relaxed at the pool/ in our room.
Especially during the 2nd half when the race started. Sunburn made some actvitys not fun.
I won't lie. Being someone who doesn't do these raids, the moment I realized they saved Haurchefant, I felt a surge of emotion and legit started crying. That moment will forever mess with me. Q_Q
Parasocial relationship alert.
wrong application of that phrase alert
I had the exact same reaction except i knew he could be saved in this fight cuz it was spoiled for me. But when i actually saw it happen and then him just being winded asking if we were unharmed. I started crying.
@@MoonBearization I’ve never done savage and I never thought they’d even think to do something like that so I was legit shocked. The thumbnail was what caught my attention immediately, I was hurt when we see it happen again, and then when they finally saved him in the redo I just started crying. 😭
@@qwertypoiuy355 I don’t think you know what that phrase actually means, but okay. 🤣👌
your narration is so good! i'm a casual player that's been watching at the sidelines for years but your retelling made me feel the goosebumps i felt back then watching the prog live when these ultimates just came out and the race was ongoing!!! so so good!!! please keep up the good work
As an EW baby that was taking my time with the story and all the side content when this fight came out and is now working through end game raiding i cannot express how much I appreciate these raid retrospecrives to be able to better understand and connect with the state of things that I was around for but unable to fully grasp at the time. Thank you for sharing this work with us all we are blessed by your efforts!
i do want to say thank you for slowing down mechanic clips to explain them. as someone who already gets overwhelmed sometimes in normal level content (lol) i really appreciate it
I love this longer form content on the history of the ulti progs. I was there for the TOP prog but didnt get to experience the others, so being able to see just how it unfolded and what the best parts of prog were is really interesting. Thanks for the good video!
Since lb is a form of energy powered by emotion, Haucherfant's death make sense to hav lb3 afterwards
This raid kickstarting the fall of TPS after a long streak of winning World Firsts says enough about how difficult it was.
A lot of people really hated them huh?
@@CanYouResistClick1ng Its like how most nfl fans hated on the patriots after so much winning. Totally natural, you see it in sports constantly.
@@flipnskater They're hated because they're both cheaters
From what I looked up. TPS was caught RMT (Real Money Trading) or at least some major members were. Thus, a lot of members bailed quickly to keep from being nuked in a massive bomb ban. So I've quickly looked up. >.>@@SPB___
@@SPB___ here we go again
This raid means so much to me. Love to come back here every now and then. Wonderful video, Rin.
This is utterly incredible, I really feel like I'm in the moment of watching this race play out watching this, and hearing the mechanics explained in the way that you do really makes me understand them in a way I might not otherwise. I would LOVE to see similar retrospectives for other Ultimates, explaining them in the form of a story rather than just a purely analytical guide. Seeing the history behind them, the mechanics, the spectacle, the race around it, all of that good stuff!
thank you for this video, i loved it! as a disabled ffxiv player, i often avoid the challenging optional fights in game cause i simply can't keep up with it physically or mentally, and it's such a joy to see content i'd otherwise never see laid out so concisely! i remember being online when this dropped and everyone was talking about saving haurchefaunts life and all i could think was huh ??? whats going on ?? and i spent hours trying to find out what was happening without actually playing it for myself. it was such a magical time in the game even for the people simply observing and not playing it for themselves and i'll always remember how fun it was, and now i have knowledge of how the prog and mechanics actually worked so thanks for that!
i just cleared DSR earlier today, and got this on my recomended, amazing video
Thank you so much for taking the time to put this video together. You’ve all but encapsulated my feelings towards Dsr! I’m a newer player and when I saw snippets of the world race it inspired me to make that my first ultimate clear! I remained unspoiled past p3 and have since cleared it as my first ultimate! The joy, the tears, the relief from finally clearing was undiscribable. I hope in the future I have half as much fun as I did with DSR! So far uwu prog.. hasn’t been as fun!😅
I remember being there, hopping around streams, always coming back to cheer for the Cerberus fellas. Taking mad notes all the time and trying to understand with you runners the struggle. Cheers for the most fun I had on twitch ever, I had a blast with you during this run, and I'm glad to be able to relive this again, even if I'll probably never clear an ultimate myself ❤
Here before Baldo reacts to it xffing
SAVE HIM SMADGE
He's gonna clear it, don't you worry. One day.
Maaan... the quality oif this video is amazing. I cannot imagine the time you invested planing the video, the script, looking for footage, editing, recording and tranversal to all that: the knowledge of the game, mechanics, memes, social networks.. amazing. Thanks for doing this.
After clearing that fight by myself in PF and then seeing this video makes me so emotional. You literally relive all the stress and then the excitement and relief when you finally see that achievement at the end. Crying everytime again
I cried watching this since I started this day one and it took so long since our static used our own strats (which I am very happy with). Since we used our own stuff up until p6 and p7 - we had a lot of arguments, drama, and of course real life took a turn for some members requiring us to find new people to adopt to our strats, it took a good 3000+ runs for the original members to get the clear. But man that clear felt so good. We finally signed off DSR after clearing it 3x in a row in 1 session, ending it in a memorable night of 1 shotting from beginning to end and watching this video ALMOST made me want to go back in again since it was such a rich fight, but man I remember the pain and agony of .3% p7 enrages and I don’t wanna suffer in PF XD. So thank you so much for reminding me why I suffered and laughed for so long. Working on that 4th and 5th titles now xD
Honestly, Haurchefant always was my favourite character and every time they hinted something about him or showed him or made his iconic phrase show up (looking at you end of Shadowbringers!) I started crying again and to this day it was so hard for me to let this wonderful character go. I even visit his grave ingame sometimes. But seeing this now makes me understand how important his death was and that he simply had to die, otherwise everything would've been far worse.
Seeing this really helped me accepting his death and be at peace with it.
What an amazing raid. Just wow.
These Ultimate progression stories a really something else, a real treat to watch. I hope to see one covering The Omega Protocol too. :D
DSR means a lot to me as a fight since I feel like it's what brought me out of my shell a bit as an XIV player, and probably the best/most fun experience I've had progging any fight. So watching this video has been a lot of fun and a good trip down memory lane, 100% one of the most enjoyable and interactive world races I think and hopefully we'll see another just like it in Dawntrail. Really good work on this one Rin! 🙌
Thank you king
Warching videos like this remind me of why I want to get better in the game, why I work so hard to learn the mechanics of things, and how to play better with others. First to clear or not, these fights are amazing and I look forward to clearing my first one.
You’ve got this, I believe in you
Do it today. I started the game 6 months ago, 4 months ago I discovered what ultimates were and since then I have been clearing them one by one 100% on PF. As of right now I just cleared DSR and I'm only pending to do TOP. Believe in your ability and you got this.
@@MrCharly780 Thank you so much for the encouragement!! I'm now setting this as a goal for 2024! I hope you have a blast with TOP, too!
Your video is actually the first video I've ever seen about an FFXIV Raid and it was captivating. Thank you for sharing this piece of history!
I'm very new to FFXIV, I just started on Leviathan this month. Sadly I'm only on the trial at this time, will be investing at the end of the month. I do intend on doing... attempting.. ALL content at some point so to get a glimpse of the challenge ahead is awesome. Final Fantasy always had epic bosses that were so enticing to fight in the past so to see them go even further in difficulty is quite impressive.
i always wanted a group to clear all trials and savage synced to see the difficulty and fun, aand a tip, play slow, no hurry, feel the lore, explore, you wont 'regret
Awesome video and recap and couldn't agree more. DSR was an emotional journey to follow just as a viewer, no other race had me as invested and excited.
I’m glad you mentioned how impactful twitch chat was. For me it was the first ultimate race I watched live and it was genuinely a blast to see people cheering eveyrone on. Sadly that wasn’t the case for TOP- I couldn’t find like anyone streaming or even talking about it on socials cause everyone wanted to hide their progress in it.
Yeah, I am NEVER going to be at this level, so I really appreciate this video. Thank you.
Absolutely amazing commentary and lovely editing. Please keep up the great work!
Would be awesome to see your view on TOP or the older ultimates as well, if you have the time as it would give players that weren't there a lot of insight on the amazing history of ultimates.
Thank you.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that. If there ends up being the interest in this video I'd love to make a couple more on other previous races in FFXIV that I thought were significant for various reasons!
He has a similar video for UWU
@@RinBananaThe way you tell the story of the race is extremely engaging and enjoyable, truly.
amazing and emotional video. i remember hearing about the progging for DSR through that week but i had been very busy with work at the time so I wasnt around to experience it first hand. Glad i could get a touch of what i missed through this vid :)
This is my favorite fight in the game. Watching the twitch community unite, casuals and hardcore players invested in different parts of the fight, the support from the communities, it was mt favorite time in my whole experience of being part of the ffxiv community. This video is great, im excited for more
Watching this prog live with chats was insane. It felt like story enjoyers and raiders came together for once and it was truly a rare occurrence.
I can only hope one day we get something like it again.
10/10 Video, artists are fed for a hour.🙏
Incredibly well put out video, I got friends that don't really raid at high level but you explained things in such a basic and cohesive way that they will surely get a kick watching this!.
Just a mention on Phase 5, when you were wondering why people were considering blocking the Knight's Spear, it was most likely because in the Extreme version of Thordan's fight you had to do exactly that, so it was most likely something that veteran raiders that did the fight were considering a solution at the time.
I'm back for the rewatch. DSR and TOP Rinon videos still live rent free in my head. The opener still gives me chills.
DSR was such an incredible time to be involved in raiding. The story, the prog, the Twitch memes; there were so many gut punches and mind-blowing developments. It was my first on-patch Ultimate, and I'll forever be grateful for that experience.
As neat as this was to watch, it reminded me of exactlu why I don't do the super hard content in this game, this stuff is *way* beyond my skill level, lol.
This video did such an incredible job recreating the feeling of watching groups prog
I haven't played the game in years (lack of time, sadly), and seeing players save Hourchefant still brings tears to my eyes.
This is an incredible retelling of the battle of Ultimate progression. I remember watching bits and pieces of the World Race on my phone while I was at work and getting home. To see the entire story captured in a long-form video is incredibly satisfying. Thank you.
Great video. glad to see you had a good time. can't wait for the Hildibrad reaction.
This was an amazing and definitive play-by-play breakdown of not just the mechanics but also the narrative of DSR, as well as the major events surrounding and leading up to it! I also love how you incorporated the reactions of the streamers and internet, and significant clips throughout. Incredible editing! If you ever decide to make a similar video for TOP, or any other significant raid tiers or ultimates, I would absolutely be here for that.
I just started prog on 6.4 and clear it few months ago, didn't know about the LB3 plot twist because we already have all the guides, this is so cool!
Great work! It highlights the release prog quite well, was a nice nostalgic trip to the past.
man, i just started playing and now all of youtube, tiktok ecc... is filled with videos about this game
peepoArrive Baldo got Wigged peepoArrive Potato smashed peepoArrive Village burned peepoArrive Banana peeled. Such good memories for watching the race and seeing the community coming together cheering on it.
I remember watching this live on twitch. Im not a raider, and ive never had an interest in even savage let alone clearing an ultimate. But I was so drawn into this. The narrative and the race. Seeing people compete in content I'd never be good enough to do myself, and a story of what if for characters I love. It was wonderful.
keep these coming there so well done and paint a story for players who where not there it was so cool in the moment watching it happen .
I am sad that even as a more serious player, I likely will never experience this fight in its entirety. However, even just seeing it vicariously through others completing it, I am happy to see it. The amount of times I damn near burst into tears about the story line of this fight alone, I have no words for. No other video game I have ever played in my lifetime will ever bring me to tears the way simply mentioning Haurchefant's name will. Congrats to those who can complete this fight, and bravo to the team responsible for making this fight a reality.
Dude this is awsome, destiny 2 have a guy who does this kind of content aswell where he goes on to tell events from the community prespective, always wanted ffxiv to have it too and here it is!
Keep up the amazing work!! Love the vid
I usually don’t leave comments but this style of video kinda reminds me of what Evan does with his documentaries in the Destiny 2 community. This was really good and I would really like to see more content like this especially a documentary like this but on TOP
Evan’s videos were a big inspiration for this one; i love his stuff!
Thank you so much for making this video. DSR was a piece of gaming history I couldn't participate in. I'm a mid-tier player with slow reaction times, minimal endurance for prog grind, etc etc the list goes on. :')
Damn man, it was so interesting those 57mn went like a flash!
Very awesome work here, i love it !
Hope to see something similar for Omega too !
DSR was the first Ultimate I was actively watching the race for and goddamn it was amazing to be apart of the twitch chats during it all, it was such a community event
These long-form videos are phenomenal. Great work, Rinon
There’s been many times I have disagreed with things you’ve said, but seeing the passion you felt while doing this video plus the fight itself made me have chills several times. I’m really looking forward similar videos with the rest of ultimates.
It really does bum me out knowing there's a whole plethora of content in FF14 that I'll never bring myself to touch from the sheer weight of anxiety alone.
That’s how I felt about savage content at first, until I tried to blind prog pandemonium on release think, well no one knows what they’re doing so this is my best chance…. Pf will take that anxiety away instantly because almost everyone is bad there including myself
Alternatively to what yink says above, my foray into savage happened with friends. I was an anxious, stressed out mess, but they were super gentle with me and made it clear that we were there to have fun and prog means progress, not necessarily completion. Relax and have fun with it. Run the content with folks who arent there to take things too seriously, and you can have a ton of fun even with the anxiety.
i gave severe anxiety and so i really want to get in the grind but I don't have friends that play xiv and my fc doesn't do extreme content ;(
Can you find a cross world link shell that does extremes. Even doing old extremes unsynced will give you some practice. Baby steps@@LukaUnempress
when i first started in ARR (quit then and got back into it near the end of HW) i was a complete noob.
then in SB i joined my first static (an FC 1) which also died in the 3rd fight due to lack of progress.
i've seen UCOB and UWU release and saw the prog of it, even said "no way i'm ever touching that"
in SHB for the 1st time i cleared a raid tier (SB had a lot of petty drama which disbanded statics)
and i cleared both the 2nd and 3rd tier.
then in EW i joined a static that i cleared the 1st 2 tiers with, progged to the final fight of the 3rd tier before leaving because lack of prog and constantly people leaving setting us back.
but in that static we also started instantly on DSR's release with an ultimate (being DSR) we tried a lot but went back to savage for the 2nd tier and back to DSR after the 2nd tier (and back to savage for the 3rd tier, another reason i quit that static)
me and a friend from that static ended up resorting to PF and clear DSR and it was an amazing experience.
start small, plenty of casual statics (2 days a week 3 hours a session) for UwU, the easiest ultimate right now, the fight is for the 1st half on basically extreme level, only gets hard once you get to the 2nd part (which is ultima)
once you got a taste for ultimates, you'll look completely different at savage.
Such a great video Rinon. The race and everyone's prog was amazing to watch.
this is an absolutely well done video, I wasn't following at the time but i've done DSR and man the story that they made for this fight is just amazing, I can't imagine how awesome it would have been to be seeing these things for the first time
Thank you so much for so aptly capturing one of the coolest moments in FF history, it was great to relive the race and remember all the incredible moments DSR brought the community
I dont really do the harder content nor much care for it, im a casual player through and through. But this Ultimate, this was constantly on my mind and on my feed when it came out. The time loop was the single coolest mechanic ive ever seen in a game, going back to save Haurchefant. I still vividly remember the moment of realization "Wait there's a time loop, nothing is changed, its the exact same, how do we escape it, why are we here, how-... oh my god do we have to save Haurchefant?"
Easily my favorite time spent on this game was learning this, such a fun and engaging fight. Great video!
As someone who hasnt even tried an ultimate, this video was a fucking banger dude
this video was incredible, after watching this and the TOP video you did, I can't wait to see the Edens video in a year. your story telling really brings me back to the moments when I was doing these fights myself
As someone who may never see this content but finds it super fascinating, please continue stuff like this!
I'm kind of surprised splitting the buffs in eyes was a prevailing theory.
Each buff has a portion of an image if viewed from the top. When combined, they paint a complete picture. The game gives you positive feedback right away for stacking them.
Can’t wait to see the TOP recap video; that one will certainly have something to discuss good or bad :3
this was one of the best ff14 videos. Im relatively new casual player and Im really interested in these events so this was perfect for me thanks. you really opened my eyes for higher tier content
Love the style of recent videos, even if it's stuff I know already it's still very cool to watch.
All the nostalgia and thrill from watching and doing prog just came flooding back... Great video for arguably one of the best fights in the game ❤
I was there when Krile saved him. I was in the chat with everyone else screaming " Save him! Smadge" and when they did i actuallt cried
The DSR launch had the perfect setup, amazing story, amazing fight and everyone hyped up for the first ultimate after the WoW exodus. Twitch was something special for that prog and i enjoyed every moment of it as a viewer and as someone progging it.
Thank you so much for covering this! I am a relatively new player who have generally caught up in MSQ but can't see myself trying out Ultimate fights for my own. Your retelling is amazing and full of passion and it just feels like being brought in an endless emotional roller coaster mixing between pain and grief from the story and hype for the progs back to back to back! I definitely will try the raid for myself someday. (when I'm more confident in my skills lol) Awesome awesome video!!
Wow, you made an hour go by almost instantly, great video! But now I feel like I should do DSR at some point and I'm already dreading the double dragon phase T-T
Never done any high end content yet I enjoyed this thanks Rinon
Great docummentary. I hope this gets even more views.
As for the question at the end of the video... With the storylines that we currently have and assuming they don't break their pattern of only making ultimates out of raid series and MSQ.... I think the only possible candidate is the eventual Shadowbringers MSQ Ultimate.
Thank you so much for this video! I was just wishing that I could see a prog super cut or something and then you come out with this!
very insightful video about what exactly dragonsong meant to the community of xiv and for the game itself - so thank you!
I just started playing FF 14 a couple months ago, but have been playing MMOs off and on since 2005 or so. This is the exact type of content I was looking for in regards to this game, and so well done!
How the hell people ever cleared these is mindblowing