It's a strange world we live in when you can get a brand new AR-15 for cheaper than a SKS. I need to get another SKS before I can't get one anymore. Fun rifle.
@@katana258 I think that's some pretty dumb shit you just rattled off. Something doesn't have to be well made to be desirable. Value can be put on aesthetics, historical significance, Its rarity or lack of attainability, etc. I think the SKS is cool. I think my 57 BelAir 4 door is cool although a lot of people don't like 4 doors. I've got newer and better rifles and I have newer and better vehicles but I want the old stuff just because I want it. That's ultimately the only real reason that lots of people buy most things. And value is based on what people are willing to pay to have one. There likely won't be any more SKS's imported. AR's are still rolling off of the assembly lines at a furious pace. Supply versus demand = market price.
Depends on where you live and AR-15 in CT is going to cost you 600+. It sucks but as soon as they were legal to purchase again I didn't hesitate even though prices dropped about a month later. I didn't buy an AR-15 pre-ban and I always regretted it. But of course now I regret selling my Yugo Mauser even if it wasn't a shining example of the rifle.
@@Osprey1994 True I forgot about all of the ban states. I picked up an AR-15 last year. I'd had a crappy Olympic one about 10 years ago but traded it for an M1 Garand (best trade I ever made). I bought a DPMS AR last year because they've gotten so cheap there was no excuse not to have one. Thankfully i've been able to find both a Yugo and Chinese SKS's since I made my earlier comment.
Hindsight.... I paid $69 for an M44 back in '99.. Also, for $50 you could get a spam can of ammo.... Those were the days... Should've bought more, I'm sure that's everyone's thought.. Good vid.
$69.99 for mint M-44 fresh from the crate with cosmoline still filling the barrel, $49.99 per 440 spam can of 54R - shipped, $69.99/1000 rounds of 7.62x39 shipped to my door. Back in the late 90's, shooting this stuff was cheap and fun! Granted, you really don't want to shoot much more than a couple dozen rounds through an M44 in a day... fun, huge fireballs, loud enough to wake the dead and brutal recoil.
I had to get mine for $350. Great price for today since it was in practically new condition. I have been to gun shows and seen ratty ones for $400. That's just the collector's market these days, there is no "surplus" market anymore.
@@ghostuscoyote while much more than they originally were when imported, I think they're now getting to a realistic $ value for the quality and durability they represent. Originally, when they came in, they were an insane bargain. I'm thinking that they're going nowhere but up from here on out... not easy to handle mentally, but we were spoiled by the cheap prices when they originally got here. Sadly, those days are now gone for good.
Enfields are super easy to reload as you NEVER want to full-length resize the brass (just neck size and occasionally bump the shoulder back and go), so I'm never hamstrung on ammo price. K31 is easy to reload for too (.308 bullets). M48 Mauser is just as good as the K98's while being a fraction of the price and rarely as well-used Got 2 SKS's (Norinco Paratrooper and Yugo 59/66) and glad I got them when they were cheap. The Norinco is my handy little brush gun (threw a red dot on it and it's a SWEET little package) whereas the Yugo had never been fired except for at the factory as far as I could tell. LOVE that cheap ammo! AND got my Mosin for $79 a few years ago and glad for it, because now places are asking STUPID prices for them. Yes the cheap surplus ammo is pretty much gone, but it uses the same .311 bullets as my Enfield so that certainly simplifies reloading. Surplus rifles: more predictable than the stock market-they always go up!
I Remember Buying Lee Enfields in the 70"s At K-Mart out of a Barrel for $49.00 I have Owned several Including The No 5 Jungle Model and they were all Great Rifles,I sold the Last One when the Milsurp ammo dried up..Owned Many SKS's and Ak's during the 90;s Watched the Prices Climb and regretted selling them..Got Three SKS and a Mosin in a Trade and Found 2 Broken Mosin Carbines.Got a few Parts off E Bay and fixed them Now I will keep them all..Love Surplus Rifles Great Video!!
Bought a Chinese version of the Mosin carbine and just picked up a Izhevsk Mosin M91/30 a couple of weeks ago. I wish I had started collecting 10 years ago. I could probably get one of each on your list for what I paid for these two Mosins.
Man! Great Video! I love videos like this. Fast and too the point, but you hit on all of the key information. Very informative, plus you didn't waste my time. Great audio too! I am subbed and getting notifications now. So glad I found your channel!! Thanks!! P.S.- Are you set up on Patreon? I would love to help support your channel. We need more "PewTubers" in the MilSurp arena. A few UA-camrs have WAY too much power(won't name names, but one starts with IraqVeteran8888) ,and that's bad for all of us. I like IV8888 as much as anyone, bet Tubers like them have too much power and can really sway interest and prices a lot! Just like anything, competition is good! I hope your channel continues to grow! Great videos!! :)
Keep an eye out and look around, I found a beautiful vz98/22 Czech. 1 of 10,000 mis labeled as turkish. Caught my, longer than the Mosin. Basically a Czech manufacture gewer 98. Ww1 Love those old guns, and you got some nice examples. It's taking care of and being reminded of the history and what lessons humans have endured. That and ringing half in plate steel at 100yrds, leaving holes. Love the vid.
memories! lol. I bought my first sks for 58 bucks, got the cleaning kit, strap, bandoleer and 50 rounds of ammo. My first (actually 2 at once ) enfield mk 4 for 50 bucks (they were in barrels back in early 90s) first nagants 25 bucks each (bought a crate) again all early to mid 90s.
Love them Brit. Enfields! The example SMLE shown is interesting. It appears to be a WWII Indian Ishapore rebuilt because of the late late WWII forearm-you can barely detect the reinforcing screw. A couple of features jumped out at me as I am an Enfield collector. The fore sling band appears to be brass. Australia is the only country that produced the brass forearm band and the holes in the front sight protector. Milling out the holes in the front sight protector allows for moving the front blade without having to remove the entire front end piece of the gun. I wish our narrator had pointed out when and where this example was made. The gun could be an Aussie Lithgow or a British made example. As with US rebuilds, the armorers cared little (zip) for matching up exact makes of parts. Note: the sling is mounted incorrectly. The brass stubs should be on the outside. I would add that if your interest is historical, ignore the post WWII .308 caliber Indian rifles. The mystique of the Enfield comes from its connection with two World Wars. If however, you care squat about the history and want a shooter that costs less to feed then buy the .308 version - groan. K31 Swiss rifles are slick as in S-M-O-O-T-H! and they are all, like Swedish Mausers, in such good condition because they were not in a war. Hitler considered invading Switzerland but thought better of it because the Swiss were well armed and a neutral Switzerland provided the Nazis with a convenient place to liquidate their stolen loot. As for the M48 Yugo Mauser, I was surprised to find that the firing pin of a K98 would not fit a M48. The M48 is built on the shorter Mauser action! You know what Gomer Pyle used to say? Makes me wonder why the Wehrmacht did not go with the shorter action. Note: the handguard fully covers the barrel like that of a Czech VZ-24. Here again there is no real war history unless you are into the sad wars of the Yugo disintegration of more recent times. When old killer war guns were allowed to be imported again, decades after the 1968 ban, I felt like I had a second chance in life. I jumped right in. I built my Enfield collection from those that came from Century Arms; Enfield from $20, Nagants from $20, SKSs $80, etc. "Ah, the old days are gone forever, when whiskey was 50 cents a gallon." - Sgt. Quicannon from SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON.
I would say the K31 will be the first of these to hit the $1000 price tag years down the road. They still come in from time to time, Classic just had a few the last couple days. Once they completely stop coming in and more people realize the insane quality and accuracy in the rifles, they will climb quicker. The SKS will also get up there pretty quick since it's a semi auto, and people will realize that it will be a semi auto that can be loaded fairly quickly and usually is excused from "assault weapon" type bans. I wish I had gotten into C&R collecting earlier, but I am thankful that I did start in 2012 when there were still a lot of good deals to be had. $89.00 Steyr M95 carbines and Mosins for example... The prices going up and primary market drying out does suck, but I am glad so many people are interested in these guns. It will ensure that they survive and are taken care of, and it brings more people to the community to stand up for gun rights. Thanks for the vid!
Got my M/N 9130 at Big 5 for $96+tax back in 2009. Glad I did. Surplus ammo isn't getting any cheaper and seems to be harder to come by, but Walmart in AZ carries plenty of Tula 7.62x54r for $11.97 per 20 round box. Also, got my Norinco SKS from a private seller for $300 in 2017. Great condition, all original unmodified.
I've watched several of your videos now and I really enjoy the content of those I've chosen to watch. If I might make a couple of suggestions? One, perhaps script your comments ahead of time, at least generally, to avoid rambling and repetition and to appear more professional. Two, make sure your props stay within camera range. Thank-you, and I look forward to more videos.
I remember going to a gun show in the late 90's and a fella had cases stacked with SKS's for 80 dollar's each. I was there for a handgun and was on my motorcycle so i passed on an SKS but at least every forth person walking around at the show had an SKs over their shoulder that they had bought that day.
From what I know the 24/52c is a reworked and scrubbed VZ24 made to the 47 spec. They are great rifles also, I have a 24/47 and considered a 24/52c over it. The 24/47 was nicer but both are good rifles. I would like to have a VZ24 one day as well.
I truly feel sorry for the people who are just now getting into mil-surp firearms.Prices aside, there just not much left to choose from. Back in the early 2000s dealers were saying we were getting to the bottom of the barrel so far as variety and availability. They weren't lying.
So true I turned 18 last year and before hunting season I got a Mossberg Maverick 88 12G for 199 plus 12 dollars tax for birds but I want a mosin nagant m91/30 idk if 350 is worth it for a good and great condition on certain parts of it at Cabela's
I have a Mosin m44. Love that rifle. It's just fun to shoot. I also have 2 also rifles. One is a Yugo...the other is a Chinese version. Love those as well.
Pretty much the same list from 5 years ago, except you aren't buying them from an actual gun store now. Cool for historical purposes but I'll be damned if I'm paying more than $200 for a mosin.
@@scott8486 I wouldn't pay that either for a surplus rifle that was made in the millions. 60 million to be exact. 250-300 tops for good+ condition. Anyone who does... "A fool and his money are soon parted." Think about it. 60 million. Peaple paying 400+. Why? That's like buying a ford focus for 50,000.
@@@ageckomiller Classic Firearms and Aims Surplus are selling Mosins for $300 now. This is the cheapest you are going to see them and they have tripled in value the past ten years. If this trend continues, Mosins will sell for $800 - $900 in ten years. Just saying, not a bad investment for something I enjoy collecting.
I bought all these way back when, but I got the two mosin tanker models also the one with a blade like the SKS, and one without. At the time I paid a 100 or so for each, with a 03 Federal firearms licence!
Do you not have an Academy anywhere close to you? They sell Monarch 7.62x54r, box of 20 for $10. Reminds me of the Russian white box ammo, packaged the same way too.
Got all the Milsurps I need ! M59 Yugo, M59/66 , K98 and two G98/40's from my Dad! Love them all great shooters! Along with my AR15's I've got all the toys I need to play !
The first rifle I ever handled was a Mk4 Lee Enfield as an Army Cadet in the very early 1970's. By this time next year I'm going to add an SMLE to my collection. I'm also hoping for a decent Swiss straight pull I just don't know which year yet. Fazakerley is pronounced faz-ack-erly but you have to pronounce it in a Scouse (Liverpudlian) accent!
Love to see Enfield prices rising. I bought a number for $100-125 at gun shows, and purchased lots of milsurp ammo, as an investment as well as collecting. I did good.
Hmmmm We (Dad, my brother, and myself) bought 2 cases of Enfields (24) back in 1962 for $120.00. Most of them were really good condition and some were truly excellent. All were built in the US by Savage. They are all gone now and my rifles are different. I have a "Husky" Mauser 6.5x55 SE and an old Marlin 336 30-30. My other rifles are AR15s. One will soon become a 300 HAM'R and the other is a 22 lr. The 300 HAM'R is currently a .223 Wylde so that upper will remain intact and the HAM'R upper will be new. Both center fire uppers are gas piston driven. I don't shoot calibers that have stiff recoil any longer. I highly recommend the Swedish Gustav 1896 6.5x55 SE Mauser if you can't find a Husqvarna. You can hunt almost anything with the 6.5mm Swedish Mauser. Excellent ballistic coefficient and sectional density. I will eventually only have my ARs. The 22lr and the 300 HAM'R. I will keep the .223 Wylde upper just in case the SHTF and need to find ammo. In the mean time I will stock up on 300 HAM'R brass, lots of primers, powders, and bullets.
The crazy deals are gone but you can still find good deals if you are patient and willing to do the searching. Hit the gun shows. Get to every one you can. This year (2018) I got a 1932 Tula Hex Mosin for $150 and a Carcano for $125. A guy was wanting to thin out his collection. Take a look at South American Mausers. They were made in Germany or Czechoslovakia. They're good rifles and I got two at just $300 each. You will not find a killer deal at every show but go to enough of them and you will. The advantage of gun shows vs online is that you can look at it and see what you are getting. Also, going to gun shows is just pure fun.
Ah, how I miss the days when Enfields were plentiful, and cost $39.00 for a really good one. ...The Rashid was nothing like an SKS, but it was the gun the SKS could have been; gorgeous and with good fitment. I wrote the only English-language manual for the Rashid, and sure wish I'd kept mine (but of course, I can say that about so many!)
@@stoegerstewie8351 Damn -- apparently I didn't have the sense to keep a printed copy for myself, and the stuff on computer was accidentally destroyed.
If you go for a Nagant, look at the barrel mark at the top in front of the action and look into it to find out EXACTLY what you're looking at. Someone over the last 90 years butchered a very rare Finnish M-28 ski-trooper model [with the original stock] that would have otherwise been worth thousands if not 10s of thousands of dollars. In the case of the M-18s, the serial numbers are on the left side and are sequential. The ski-trooper models took up the first 6,000 of the first 10,000 rifles, after the first 6k, they stopped using the ski-trooper stock and as they got damaged or refurbished, would no longer have the second sling mount in the rear of the stock which makes the ones that still have the original stock very rare and valuable finds.
#2 SKS IS A GREAT RIFLE! My personal favorite is the Yugo (w/grenade launcher) Thow, do keep your eyes out for some that have a chrome lined barrel (some chineese models) A sks can be fired, disrespected allday everyday, & still function time after time! GREAT RIFLE WHICH COULD BE HAD FOR WELL UNDER $99.00 TWELVE YEARS AGO!
I purchased a select K-31 Swiss a couple years ago, along with a case of ammo . . . took it to the range and couldn't believe the accuracy. I took three shots at 100 yards with open sights and you could cover all three with a quarter. The neat thing is there is an adapter for a scope that you don't have to modify the rifle to mount. But why bother? The only other rifle that compares to the K-31 is the Swedish Mauser M-98 . . . the Swiss know how to build rifles. You cannot go wrong. And hunting ammo is inexpensive and very much available.
I started to collection surplus rifles and right now I have a 1944 Lee Enfield No4 Mk 1* Long Branch, 1944 M1 Garand, 1943 Tula Mosin Nagant PU Sniper, 1945 Swiss K31, 1940 Kar 98K and 1952 Tula SKS in a aftermarket Tumbersmith stock. Looking for a few more but not sure what else I can find in Canada. I think it was a good list.
I paid $70 for a M1891 Mosin and $70 for a Steyr M95 back in the day. Crazy how the prices go up. I remember you couldn't give away a SKS for $50 in the surplus stores, and now they are over $500 for a pick of the litter one.
I have all of those which I acquired when they were cheap. What I would recommend to the new collector is to get a M1 Garand from the Civilian Marksmanship Program before they are all gone. Jump through a few hoops but get a piece of history shipped to your door. They are accurate and will not lose value. Can be had for $600-800.
I'm with you with most of your picks. However, in terms of affordability, it seems like the Type 38 or Type 99 Arisaka should have made the list. I've bought around 6 Type 38's for less than $200 each and a couple 99's for less than $200 as well over the last 3-5 years. They shoot very nicely, you just have to reload for them. Also, one can get sporterized Enflields for less than $200 and either have fun with that or restore them. Word of warning; lots of Enfields are out of spec in terms of head-spacing. That usually isn't a dangerous thing as much as it means your brass gets abused and you'll get more case ruptures, meaning you might only get one or two reloads out of your brass. It can be fixed, but I'll let a more qualified person talk about that. My advice if you want an Enfield is buy a go/no go gauge to test the head-spacing on the fly.
I bought my 1926 Hex Mosin about 5 years ago now for $240 which I thought was very pricey but I really wanted that particular one since it was a pre-war all matching and had already been cleaned of cosmoline. Now to hear it could go for $500 pretty soon....whoo. Going to be tempted to sell it maybe lol. I have some other gun projects that could use funding that can be just as fun and cheap to use as the Mosin without the headache of upkeep whenever I use surplus. Maybe I should get around to cleaning up the stock and touching up the blue and see what I can get for it.
That's the garden-variety common SKS but if you like the more Exotics you could always buy the paratrooper which is 4 inches shorter or the S model or M model that takes AK-47 mags
Thoughts on future value of M95 surplus rifles? Carried by 2nd rate German soldiers and Austrians during WWII and WWI. Also thoughts on the Mas 39 & 46 French rifles.
A run of the mill MN91/30s are going for around $400 in my area... (early 2019) no bayonet or cleaning kit that they used to come with. I feel your pain on the hex, I didn't buy one at $250 because I thought that it was just too much for a Mosin about 5 years ago. (I so passed on an Enfield at one time for about 400 because I couldn't find ammo and didn't have space to collect something I couldn't shoot. I'm kind of frustrated about that now...) I think the spam can of 7.62x54R that I have has doubled in value also... so I genrally use Tulammo at about $11.50/box of 20 or Monarch (from Academy - I think it's made by PPU) for about $0.50/round. non corrosive. the monarch is 180 grain and has slightly more punch... but the 91/30 goes on every range trip that allows FMJ ammo.
Around 2000 I bought a supposed broken Mosin 91/30, made 1939 prewar from Big Five for $50. The sear was worn, easy replace. It also has an "SA" in a rectangle an a Finnish finger joint stock with wire swivels. What would a Finn Mosin collector part with for that?
Milsurp collecting will continue, but cost is making it harder to get a nice collection together. As we get farther from WW2 almost all surplus has dried up. I'm guessing the 50's and 60's were the hayday for milsurp! Now we are kind of reaching $$$ that you can buy something new for the same price as a milsurp! Wish I started sooner, as the last few rifles purchased were somewhat higher than I planned on spending. Pawn shops and private sellers still have a deal or two to be had you just need to keep an eye out! The days of the crate rifles are long gone.
It's worth mentioning that milsurp tends to come in waves as importers negotiate deals and laws change over time. You can see this happen with parts kits, albeit at a much faster rate than a complete rifle for obvious reasons.
@@redalpha7217 How can I learn more about parts kits? Kits worth buying. Kits where the missing stuff is being produced? Places online to learn more about building from parts kits?
@@tomster70 check out major retailers like Apex gun parts, numrich, or Sarco. Each kit more or less has its own method of approach in terms of building into a semi auto. I would advise you to focus your money on tooling first, and then start looking at parts kits. Just google around, see what online stores pop up. Forums like weapons guild are a great place to learn and ask questions.
He is right. Buy the .303 rounds from PPU. And if you do buy a Lee Enfield the "stripper clip" is not known as that. After I bought mine the members of a Lee Enfield Forum that I joined kindly informed me that they call them by their British name "charger strips" or just "chargers". :-)
I have 2 out of the 5. 1952 Tula made SKS and my K31 was made, I believe, in 1943. The one rifle I wanted above all, being Canadian, was some variant of the Lee Enfield (Ideally of the N0.4 Mk.1 family). Could have gotten one made by Long Branch circa 1952-3 for $350 8 years ago. Kicking myself for not jumping on it. =(
Bought an unissued, more on the rare side Mosin for about $700 early October. Couldn’t believe it was so much. Should’ve gotten the Krag or K-31 next to it. $2000 for a Garand sitting right next to it, old M1903a1 for about $1400 next to that as well.
I got my m91/30 for 200 with 3 boxes of ammo stripper clip belt holders, pretty good condition to have seen combat in 1942 round reciever the bayonet is probably buried in the ground in Russia somewere though other then that all original for 200
I got a k 31 for around 525 dollars earlier this year. Had matching parts, good wood, but no bayonet or sling. Ammo is a pain, cant find it in stores, but online it goes for around 70 cents a round, so not too bad.
Hey, my local pawn shop has one for $500 asking price. It is an ugly thing now with a very rough stock and the best part: it is missing it's magazine! Oh the market these days...
I love my k31 and only got it earlier this year. It is a great shooter and i love it. But it did hurt to pay 900. which is something I said I would never do. Fact is I do not see them going down in price. Are you in the USA or Canada?
I got lucky. I got mine from a shop for $300 a few months ago! Matching everything. Great shape. 1944. Came with a cleaning kit, sling, and 3 cans of waffenfett grease. It’s a CAI import though.
Glad I got mine (a 1945 production) when I did a year ago, all matching, good condition, came with a sling for $450. Seems like they're going for $600+ now
Look around in Canada For SKS's. While not a 100$ rifle, the rus are 250 300$Cdn. Chi are also easily found but i dont know about the ban to much. The reason we like them up here in Canada is they are nonrestricted, ie a truck gun but an AR can only go to the range and back. I just got into shooting my SVT 40 (450$) with a BadAce scope mount with a 40$ 3x9 amazon scope. Im clanging steel at 500m and cant wait to start shooting against my Bergara B14 HMR(1600$) with Vortex 6.5x24 . Never underestimate a good surplus rifle.
We were lucky in Canada for awhile, in 2017 I was able to purchase 3 S.K.S'S AND 1 MOSIN. The S.K.S. ARE 1950, 1952, 195O AND THE MOSIN IS A 1943. paid $750.00 canadian.
I got three matching Lee Enfields in the early 2000s for 250 for all three. Yay me. Also got a perfect condition Swiss M1911 that was a gift for some work I did. Alas I only have a Chinese and Yugo SKS and not a Russian one and they got too expensive for what I wanted.
A very good place to go to find military surplus guns is the gun show. They are 2nd market but the one i go to has a overabundance of military surplus guns. So if you have a loval convention center you should see there calendar to see when the new gun show near you will be.
Every gun show I go to in Wisconsin the mosin nagant m91/30 are getting sold for 600 plus and at Cabela's there 350 good and great condition on certain parts
The money to be made buying surplus rifles like the mosin is over. They were $79-$100 no more then 8 years ago!!! and pretty much tripped since then... Smart people who took advantage must have made a killin.. The SKS is a good way to make a poor man's AK-47 in a sense if you convert the magazine like you said but still $600+ isn't THAT cheap when you can buy an AR-15 for the same price. Nice video tho. Good job man.
Yep I was around in the 90's. Any one of those war horse rifles were under a hundred bucks. That's all they're worth to me. I quickly peddled the ones I had when people decided to fork over big money for old scrap. Was fun wasting canned hams of ammo at tin cans. Good old days.
just my thought on some of the folks that blame some of the gun sites for the massive price increases and the difficulty finding some of the milsurps which were once easy to find. If anything I think some of these guys just brought more attention to the quality of these guns. Also it is a simple matter of supply and demand. Some countries just are not importing the same numbers they once did. The swiss K31 is a very good example of this. These are high quality rifles and the price has exploded at least up here in the Great White North. Another example is the Russian version of the SKS. We get them up here for an average price of about 250. That is a good quality rifle for a good price. Compare the SKS to a modern day rifle of similar price and caliber. I know they have also become more popular as a whole due to the fact modern day guns are not made with the same quality and do not last nearly as long as the milsurps. I know many people and so called friends of mine laugh at my love of the milsurps but they all still function good and I can hunt or use for self defense. In closing the Russian SKS is way cheaper up here than in the USA. I have family and friends in the states that are very jealous of the price difference. A product that was made 75 to over 100 years old that still works great. What can you compare that to? I mean anything produced in today's market. And if the gun sites were the cause of the prices of milsurps going up send them a thank you for helping to increase the value of your milsurp collection. Have a great day and God bless!! I would like to thank Hickok, Irag vetran and many others for the videos and helping to educate me in the milsurp market.
I would love to find a nice SVT so that I can also keep using my mosin ammo. About two years ago I stupidly passed up a Chinese capture of an arisaka type 38 that had been converted to 7.62x39. That would be a fun one and cheap ammo too.
The milking cow times are over. Here in Europe, single barrel shotguns are no less than 200€ k98 are in average 700€ and up surplus oldies with gold prices.
It's a strange world we live in when you can get a brand new AR-15 for cheaper than a SKS. I need to get another SKS before I can't get one anymore. Fun rifle.
@@katana258 I think that's some pretty dumb shit you just rattled off. Something doesn't have to be well made to be desirable. Value can be put on aesthetics, historical significance, Its rarity or lack of attainability, etc. I think the SKS is cool. I think my 57 BelAir 4 door is cool although a lot of people don't like 4 doors. I've got newer and better rifles and I have newer and better vehicles but I want the old stuff just because I want it. That's ultimately the only real reason that lots of people buy most things. And value is based on what people are willing to pay to have one. There likely won't be any more SKS's imported. AR's are still rolling off of the assembly lines at a furious pace. Supply versus demand = market price.
@@Shane-Singleton +1.. they are collectibles, hence the value behind them.
Depends on where you live and AR-15 in CT is going to cost you 600+. It sucks but as soon as they were legal to purchase again I didn't hesitate even though prices dropped about a month later. I didn't buy an AR-15 pre-ban and I always regretted it. But of course now I regret selling my Yugo Mauser even if it wasn't a shining example of the rifle.
@@Osprey1994 True I forgot about all of the ban states. I picked up an AR-15 last year. I'd had a crappy Olympic one about 10 years ago but traded it for an M1 Garand (best trade I ever made). I bought a DPMS AR last year because they've gotten so cheap there was no excuse not to have one. Thankfully i've been able to find both a Yugo and Chinese SKS's since I made my earlier comment.
@@katana258 ever consider ar's aren't as collectable?
Amen to the K-31 Swiss. Bought one last year- it was a "select" insofar the stock and metal was in near perfect shape. Shoots like a dream.
Hindsight.... I paid $69 for an M44 back in '99.. Also, for $50 you could get a spam can of ammo.... Those were the days... Should've bought more, I'm sure that's everyone's thought.. Good vid.
I mean, at least you were able to buy something back then lol. I was just born in 99
$69.99 for mint M-44 fresh from the crate with cosmoline still filling the barrel, $49.99 per 440 spam can of 54R - shipped, $69.99/1000 rounds of 7.62x39 shipped to my door. Back in the late 90's, shooting this stuff was cheap and fun! Granted, you really don't want to shoot much more than a couple dozen rounds through an M44 in a day... fun, huge fireballs, loud enough to wake the dead and brutal recoil.
I had to get mine for $350. Great price for today since it was in practically new condition. I have been to gun shows and seen ratty ones for $400. That's just the collector's market these days, there is no "surplus" market anymore.
@@ghostuscoyote while much more than they originally were when imported, I think they're now getting to a realistic $ value for the quality and durability they represent. Originally, when they came in, they were an insane bargain. I'm thinking that they're going nowhere but up from here on out... not easy to handle mentally, but we were spoiled by the cheap prices when they originally got here. Sadly, those days are now gone for good.
I bought a can every payday for a year. Still shooting on that ammunition, will suck when it does run out.
I miss the good old days of 20 years ago. Bought my No4 Mk1 for $69 and my M48A for $89.
Just reminiscing of days gone by. Glad you bought a car for 100 bucks. I am sure it has appreciated in value since then.
Lol I remember buying winter bomb cars for 50.00 when i was a kid in the 80s
Yeah
*sheds a tear having paid 249$ for a mauser in 2019*
Part of what makes something surplus is a low price. High priced "surplus"? Pointless.
Matthew Miniatt That’s not how it works.
Enfields are super easy to reload as you NEVER want to full-length resize the brass (just neck size and occasionally bump the shoulder back and go), so I'm never hamstrung on ammo price.
K31 is easy to reload for too (.308 bullets).
M48 Mauser is just as good as the K98's while being a fraction of the price and rarely as well-used
Got 2 SKS's (Norinco Paratrooper and Yugo 59/66) and glad I got them when they were cheap. The Norinco is my handy little brush gun (threw a red dot on it and it's a SWEET little package) whereas the Yugo had never been fired except for at the factory as far as I could tell. LOVE that cheap ammo!
AND got my Mosin for $79 a few years ago and glad for it, because now places are asking STUPID prices for them. Yes the cheap surplus ammo is pretty much gone, but it uses the same .311 bullets as my Enfield so that certainly simplifies reloading.
Surplus rifles: more predictable than the stock market-they always go up!
Just in the last 3 months I have acquired a M48, an M24/47, and a K98 Russian capture, I really like these Mausers
I just bought a WZ29
I Remember Buying Lee Enfields in the 70"s At K-Mart out of a Barrel for $49.00 I have Owned several Including The No 5 Jungle Model and they were all Great Rifles,I sold the Last One when the Milsurp ammo dried up..Owned Many SKS's and Ak's during the 90;s Watched the Prices Climb and regretted selling them..Got Three SKS and a Mosin in a Trade and Found 2 Broken Mosin Carbines.Got a few Parts off E Bay and fixed them Now I will keep them all..Love Surplus Rifles Great Video!!
Bought a Chinese version of the Mosin carbine and just picked up a Izhevsk Mosin M91/30 a couple of weeks ago. I wish I had started collecting 10 years ago. I could probably get one of each on your list for what I paid for these two Mosins.
Man! Great Video! I love videos like this. Fast and too the point, but you hit on all of the key information. Very informative, plus you didn't waste my time. Great audio too! I am subbed and getting notifications now. So glad I found your channel!! Thanks!!
P.S.- Are you set up on Patreon? I would love to help support your channel. We need more "PewTubers" in the MilSurp arena. A few UA-camrs have WAY too much power(won't name names, but one starts with IraqVeteran8888) ,and that's bad for all of us. I like IV8888 as much as anyone, bet Tubers like them have too much power and can really sway interest and prices a lot! Just like anything, competition is good! I hope your channel continues to grow! Great videos!! :)
why I love may dad? Because he bought 10 SKS in 98 and paid only 500 for all
I wish my Dad did that for me.
I got 4 For 200 back in 91 at intermountian arms in boise.
Who's got one for grabs???
Man I got a 6.5x55 Sporterized Swedish Mauser and a SKS from a store named Roses back in the day, the 6.5 I paid $175 SKS was $200 bucks.....
I paid 500 bucks for a Swedish AG42B back in 2011 its going for 1500 here in canada now
I lived in indiana bought a mosin nagaunt for 100 bucks and 100 rounds of 7.62×54 for 25 all Russian ammo.
Keep an eye out and look around, I found a beautiful vz98/22 Czech. 1 of 10,000 mis labeled as turkish. Caught my, longer than the Mosin. Basically a Czech manufacture gewer 98. Ww1
Love those old guns, and you got some nice examples. It's taking care of and being reminded of the history and what lessons humans have endured. That and ringing half in plate steel at 100yrds, leaving holes. Love the vid.
memories! lol. I bought my first sks for 58 bucks, got the cleaning kit, strap, bandoleer and 50 rounds of ammo. My first (actually 2 at once ) enfield mk 4 for 50 bucks (they were in barrels back in early 90s) first nagants 25 bucks each (bought a crate) again all early to mid 90s.
Excellent video.
Love them Brit. Enfields! The example SMLE shown is interesting. It appears to be a WWII Indian Ishapore rebuilt because of the late late WWII forearm-you can barely detect the reinforcing screw. A couple of features jumped out at me as I am an Enfield collector. The fore sling band appears to be brass. Australia is the only country that produced the brass forearm band and the holes in the front sight protector. Milling out the holes in the front sight protector allows for moving the front blade without having to remove the entire front end piece of the gun. I wish our narrator had pointed out when and where this example was made. The gun could be an Aussie Lithgow or a British made example. As with US rebuilds, the armorers cared little (zip) for matching up exact makes of parts. Note: the sling is mounted incorrectly. The brass stubs should be on the outside. I would add that if your interest is historical, ignore the post WWII .308 caliber Indian rifles. The mystique of the Enfield comes from its connection with two World Wars. If however, you care squat about the history and want a shooter that costs less to feed then buy the .308 version - groan.
K31 Swiss rifles are slick as in S-M-O-O-T-H! and they are all, like Swedish Mausers, in such good condition because they were not in a war. Hitler considered invading Switzerland but thought better of it because the Swiss were well armed and a neutral Switzerland provided the Nazis with a convenient place to liquidate their stolen loot.
As for the M48 Yugo Mauser, I was surprised to find that the firing pin of a K98 would not fit a M48. The M48 is built on the shorter Mauser action! You know what Gomer Pyle used to say? Makes me wonder why the Wehrmacht did not go with the shorter action. Note: the handguard fully covers the barrel like that of a Czech VZ-24. Here again there is no real war history unless you are into the sad wars of the Yugo disintegration of more recent times.
When old killer war guns were allowed to be imported again, decades after the 1968 ban, I felt like I had a second chance in life. I jumped right in. I built my Enfield collection from those that came from Century Arms; Enfield from $20, Nagants from $20, SKSs $80, etc. "Ah, the old days are gone forever, when whiskey was 50 cents a gallon." - Sgt. Quicannon from SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON.
great video thanks Hoosier
I would say the K31 will be the first of these to hit the $1000 price tag years down the road. They still come in from time to time, Classic just had a few the last couple days. Once they completely stop coming in and more people realize the insane quality and accuracy in the rifles, they will climb quicker. The SKS will also get up there pretty quick since it's a semi auto, and people will realize that it will be a semi auto that can be loaded fairly quickly and usually is excused from "assault weapon" type bans.
I wish I had gotten into C&R collecting earlier, but I am thankful that I did start in 2012 when there were still a lot of good deals to be had. $89.00 Steyr M95 carbines and Mosins for example...
The prices going up and primary market drying out does suck, but I am glad so many people are interested in these guns. It will ensure that they survive and are taken care of, and it brings more people to the community to stand up for gun rights.
Thanks for the vid!
Got my M/N 9130 at Big 5 for $96+tax back in 2009. Glad I did. Surplus ammo isn't getting any cheaper and seems to be harder to come by, but Walmart in AZ carries plenty of Tula 7.62x54r for $11.97 per 20 round box. Also, got my Norinco SKS from a private seller for $300 in 2017. Great condition, all original unmodified.
I've watched several of your videos now and I really enjoy the content of those I've chosen to watch. If I might make a couple of suggestions? One, perhaps script your comments ahead of time, at least generally, to avoid rambling and repetition and to appear more professional. Two, make sure your props stay within camera range. Thank-you, and I look forward to more videos.
I remember going to a gun show in the late 90's and a fella had cases stacked with SKS's for 80 dollar's each. I was there for a handgun and was on my motorcycle so i passed on an SKS but at least every forth person walking around at the show had an SKs over their shoulder that they had bought that day.
In 2004 bought British 303 for $75.00, ammo $3 a box. Bought a 8mm mouser in the 70's for $40 and in the 90's bought an SkS for $90.
Nice video as always! How do you compare Yugo Mauser 24/52 to M48 and 24/47 in terms of value? For one thing, the 24/52s are a lot harder to find...
From what I know the 24/52c is a reworked and scrubbed VZ24 made to the 47 spec. They are great rifles also, I have a 24/47 and considered a 24/52c over it. The 24/47 was nicer but both are good rifles. I would like to have a VZ24 one day as well.
I truly feel sorry for the people who are just now getting into mil-surp firearms.Prices aside, there just not much left to choose from. Back in the early 2000s dealers were saying we were getting to the bottom of the barrel so far as variety and availability. They weren't lying.
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So true I turned 18 last year and before hunting season I got a Mossberg Maverick 88 12G for 199 plus 12 dollars tax for birds but I want a mosin nagant m91/30 idk if 350 is worth it for a good and great condition on certain parts of it at Cabela's
I have a Mosin m44. Love that rifle. It's just fun to shoot. I also have 2 also rifles. One is a Yugo...the other is a Chinese version. Love those as well.
Pretty much the same list from 5 years ago, except you aren't buying them from an actual gun store now. Cool for historical purposes but I'll be damned if I'm paying more than $200 for a mosin.
LOL, I guess you will not be buying a mosin then, damned or not.
@@scott8486
I wouldn't pay that either for a surplus rifle that was made in the millions. 60 million to be exact. 250-300 tops for good+ condition. Anyone who does... "A fool and his money are soon parted."
Think about it. 60 million. Peaple paying 400+. Why?
That's like buying a ford focus for 50,000.
@@@ageckomiller Classic Firearms and Aims Surplus are selling Mosins for $300 now. This is the cheapest you are going to see them and they have tripled in value the past ten years. If this trend continues, Mosins will sell for $800 - $900 in ten years. Just saying, not a bad investment for something I enjoy collecting.
You're not paying $200 for a mosin. You'll be paying $400 or more now.
yep , and the bolt will stick no matter the price
I bought all these way back when, but I got the two mosin tanker models also the one with a blade like the SKS, and one without. At the time I paid a 100 or so for each, with a 03 Federal firearms licence!
In 2004 I bought a K-31, SKS and a M44 , paid $410 for all three =)
Tardisius damn that’s badass
That was a steal, you couldn't get the SKS for that price now.
Got a k-31for 89.00 back in 2000.Then two year later 150.00 for the k
I hate you with the burning heat of 1,000 exploding suns.
(have fun shooting them!)
wow, when was that?
Do you not have an Academy anywhere close to you? They sell Monarch 7.62x54r, box of 20 for $10. Reminds me of the Russian white box ammo, packaged the same way too.
Got all the Milsurps I need ! M59 Yugo, M59/66 , K98 and two G98/40's from my Dad! Love them all great shooters! Along with my AR15's I've got all the toys I need to play !
Idk man, 6.5 mm Swede is pretty nice....
Any idea where I could find a box magazine for the Schmidt Ruben 1911 rifle... the K31 predecessor?
The first rifle I ever handled was a Mk4 Lee Enfield as an Army Cadet in the very early 1970's. By this time next year I'm going to add an SMLE to my collection. I'm also hoping for a decent Swiss straight pull I just don't know which year yet. Fazakerley is pronounced faz-ack-erly but you have to pronounce it in a Scouse (Liverpudlian) accent!
I have 3 Enfields that I bought for $30 each in the mid 1990's when they were just about given them away.
Lucky. Paid more for mine, but it puts food on the table in nov.
I was born in 1999. I cannot get cheap surplus rifles anymore.
Love to see Enfield prices rising. I bought a number for $100-125 at gun shows, and purchased lots of milsurp ammo, as an investment as well as collecting. I did good.
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Hmmmm We (Dad, my brother, and myself) bought 2 cases of Enfields (24) back in 1962 for $120.00. Most of them were really good condition and some were truly excellent. All were built in the US by Savage. They are all gone now and my rifles are different. I have a "Husky" Mauser 6.5x55 SE and an old Marlin 336 30-30. My other rifles are AR15s. One will soon become a 300 HAM'R and the other is a 22 lr. The 300 HAM'R is currently a .223 Wylde so that upper will remain intact and the HAM'R upper will be new. Both center fire uppers are gas piston driven. I don't shoot calibers that have stiff recoil any longer. I highly recommend the Swedish Gustav 1896 6.5x55 SE Mauser if you can't find a Husqvarna. You can hunt almost anything with the 6.5mm Swedish Mauser. Excellent ballistic coefficient and sectional density. I will eventually only have my ARs. The 22lr and the 300 HAM'R. I will keep the .223 Wylde upper just in case the SHTF and need to find ammo. In the mean time I will stock up on 300 HAM'R brass, lots of primers, powders, and bullets.
The crazy deals are gone but you can still find good deals if you are patient and willing to do the searching. Hit the gun shows. Get to every one you can. This year (2018) I got a 1932 Tula Hex Mosin for $150 and a Carcano for $125. A guy was wanting to thin out his collection. Take a look at South American Mausers. They were made in Germany or Czechoslovakia. They're good rifles and I got two at just $300 each. You will not find a killer deal at every show but go to enough of them and you will. The advantage of gun shows vs online is that you can look at it and see what you are getting. Also, going to gun shows is just pure fun.
I missed out on the mosin gravy train, i wish i was older so i couldve gotten a crait deal.
I’m thinkin about buying an sks but I could only find them used rn, I know it’s old but it’s still an interesting piece of history
Good video,
Ah, how I miss the days when Enfields were plentiful, and cost $39.00 for a really good one. ...The Rashid was nothing like an SKS, but it was the gun the SKS could have been; gorgeous and with good fitment. I wrote the only English-language manual for the Rashid, and sure wish I'd kept mine (but of course, I can say that about so many!)
where can I find a copy of the Rasheed Manual, English and Arabic if possible. Rasheed is my dream gun right now.
@@stoegerstewie8351 Damn -- apparently I didn't have the sense to keep a printed copy for myself, and the stuff on computer was accidentally destroyed.
My great grandfather in the 50s bought a 1903A3 Springfield from the NRA for like 8 dollars or something, and he sportorized it
If you go for a Nagant, look at the barrel mark at the top in front of the action and look into it to find out EXACTLY what you're looking at. Someone over the last 90 years butchered a very rare Finnish M-28 ski-trooper model [with the original stock] that would have otherwise been worth thousands if not 10s of thousands of dollars. In the case of the M-18s, the serial numbers are on the left side and are sequential. The ski-trooper models took up the first 6,000 of the first 10,000 rifles, after the first 6k, they stopped using the ski-trooper stock and as they got damaged or refurbished, would no longer have the second sling mount in the rear of the stock which makes the ones that still have the original stock very rare and valuable finds.
#2 SKS IS A GREAT RIFLE! My personal favorite is the Yugo (w/grenade launcher) Thow, do keep your eyes out for some that have a chrome lined barrel (some chineese models) A sks can be fired, disrespected allday everyday, & still function time after time! GREAT RIFLE WHICH COULD BE HAD FOR WELL UNDER $99.00 TWELVE YEARS AGO!
I was at show this past weekend all above 500 bucks
I purchased a select K-31 Swiss a couple years ago, along with a case of ammo . . . took it to the range and couldn't believe the accuracy. I took three shots at 100 yards with open sights and you could cover all three with a quarter. The neat thing is there is an adapter for a scope that you don't have to modify the rifle to mount. But why bother? The only other rifle that compares to the K-31 is the Swedish Mauser M-98 . . . the Swiss know how to build rifles. You cannot go wrong. And hunting ammo is inexpensive and very much available.
Swede Mausers m96 not m98, they are ok, i have 2, a 1915 m96 and a 1940 short rifle.
@@dunxy The M-96 1915 version is a great year and make for that model. The 1940 Carbine is pretty hard to come by. Both good pieces. Hang on to those!
My Finnish M-39 will outshoot My Swiss K-31 any day of the week
When I was a kid the Enfield was always in the 20 dollar barrel at the gun store crazy
def buying an SKS
I started to collection surplus rifles and right now I have a 1944 Lee Enfield No4 Mk 1* Long Branch, 1944 M1 Garand, 1943 Tula Mosin Nagant PU Sniper, 1945 Swiss K31, 1940 Kar 98K and 1952 Tula SKS in a aftermarket Tumbersmith stock. Looking for a few more but not sure what else I can find in Canada. I think it was a good list.
Funny thing that just a few yrs ago, Canada just retired the .303 Lee Enfield for the Colt C19
I paid $70 for a M1891 Mosin and $70 for a Steyr M95 back in the day. Crazy how the prices go up. I remember you couldn't give away a SKS for $50 in the surplus stores, and now they are over $500 for a pick of the litter one.
Got all of them but the Mauser... Need to find a Yugo mauser here soon.
I am lucky to have 3 Russian S.K.S, 2 with spring firing pins, also 1 Mosin Nagant. Lots of fun to shoot.
I have all of those which I acquired when they were cheap. What I would recommend to the new collector is to get a M1 Garand from the Civilian Marksmanship Program before they are all gone. Jump through a few hoops but get a piece of history shipped to your door. They are accurate and will not lose value. Can be had for $600-800.
I'm with you with most of your picks. However, in terms of affordability, it seems like the Type 38 or Type 99 Arisaka should have made the list. I've bought around 6 Type 38's for less than $200 each and a couple 99's for less than $200 as well over the last 3-5 years. They shoot very nicely, you just have to reload for them. Also, one can get sporterized Enflields for less than $200 and either have fun with that or restore them. Word of warning; lots of Enfields are out of spec in terms of head-spacing. That usually isn't a dangerous thing as much as it means your brass gets abused and you'll get more case ruptures, meaning you might only get one or two reloads out of your brass. It can be fixed, but I'll let a more qualified person talk about that. My advice if you want an Enfield is buy a go/no go gauge to test the head-spacing on the fly.
There's wolf steel ammo for the Enfield now, which is about half to a third of the price of the brass.
I bought my 1926 Hex Mosin about 5 years ago now for $240 which I thought was very pricey but I really wanted that particular one since it was a pre-war all matching and had already been cleaned of cosmoline. Now to hear it could go for $500 pretty soon....whoo. Going to be tempted to sell it maybe lol. I have some other gun projects that could use funding that can be just as fun and cheap to use as the Mosin without the headache of upkeep whenever I use surplus. Maybe I should get around to cleaning up the stock and touching up the blue and see what I can get for it.
just a couple years ago cabelas was selling mosins for $180, on some websites i was finding mosin ammo for 3 cents a round
That's the garden-variety common SKS but if you like the more Exotics you could always buy the paratrooper which is 4 inches shorter or the S model or M model that takes AK-47 mags
I got a hex receiver 1928 Dragoon Mosin that was converted to a 91/30 for 300. The place selling them had no idea what they had.
Mine was 1925. Same price too. At the time I said "$300 for a Mosin?! Why am I doing this?!" But in hindsight, I don't regret it one bit
You used to be able to buy crates of mosin for $69 at gun show only 10 years ago
Good report, I sub'd
Thank you!
I really like old firearms and enjoy shooting them. But the times we are in now don’t waste your money and get a mini 14 or AR !
Buy a Garand
Thoughts on future value of M95 surplus rifles? Carried by 2nd rate German soldiers and Austrians during WWII and WWI. Also thoughts on the Mas 39 & 46 French rifles.
A run of the mill MN91/30s are going for around $400 in my area... (early 2019) no bayonet or cleaning kit that they used to come with. I feel your pain on the hex, I didn't buy one at $250 because I thought that it was just too much for a Mosin about 5 years ago. (I so passed on an Enfield at one time for about 400 because I couldn't find ammo and didn't have space to collect something I couldn't shoot. I'm kind of frustrated about that now...)
I think the spam can of 7.62x54R that I have has doubled in value also... so I genrally use Tulammo at about $11.50/box of 20 or Monarch (from Academy - I think it's made by PPU) for about $0.50/round. non corrosive. the monarch is 180 grain and has slightly more punch... but the 91/30 goes on every range trip that allows FMJ ammo.
Around 2000 I bought a supposed broken Mosin 91/30, made 1939 prewar from Big Five for $50. The sear was worn, easy replace. It also has an "SA" in a rectangle an a Finnish finger joint stock with wire swivels. What would a Finn Mosin collector part with for that?
Good thing I bought all my Milsurp Rifles 30 years ago
Milsurp collecting will continue, but cost is making it harder to get a nice collection together. As we get farther from WW2 almost all surplus has dried up. I'm guessing the 50's and 60's were the hayday for milsurp! Now we are kind of reaching $$$ that you can buy something new for the same price as a milsurp! Wish I started sooner, as the last few rifles purchased were somewhat higher than I planned on spending. Pawn shops and private sellers still have a deal or two to be had you just need to keep an eye out! The days of the crate rifles are long gone.
It's worth mentioning that milsurp tends to come in waves as importers negotiate deals and laws change over time. You can see this happen with parts kits, albeit at a much faster rate than a complete rifle for obvious reasons.
@@redalpha7217 How can I learn more about parts kits? Kits worth buying. Kits where the missing stuff is being produced? Places online to learn more about building from parts kits?
@@tomster70 check out major retailers like Apex gun parts, numrich, or Sarco. Each kit more or less has its own method of approach in terms of building into a semi auto. I would advise you to focus your money on tooling first, and then start looking at parts kits. Just google around, see what online stores pop up. Forums like weapons guild are a great place to learn and ask questions.
I think you should’ve added the Turkish and 1916 Spanish Mauser to your list, I’ve been seeing those for $200-$300 online and at guns shows.
I am not real old...I remember my uncle buying a 03 Springfield for $12.00 from the back of a magazine ad.
A load of Lee Enfield Mk2 No8’s should be on the market everywhere.
If you really want a good .22 LR that’s the rifle you need to try.
Don’t know what you mean.
He is right. Buy the .303 rounds from PPU. And if you do buy a Lee Enfield the "stripper clip" is not known as that. After I bought mine the members of a Lee Enfield Forum that I joined kindly informed me that they call them by their British name "charger strips" or just "chargers". :-)
In the 60's, just about every department store had all of these on sale for $50 to less than $100, that included pistols, that sold for much less.
I have 2 out of the 5. 1952 Tula made SKS and my K31 was made, I believe, in 1943. The one rifle I wanted above all, being Canadian, was some variant of the Lee Enfield (Ideally of the N0.4 Mk.1 family). Could have gotten one made by Long Branch circa 1952-3 for $350 8 years ago. Kicking myself for not jumping on it. =(
The Egyptian Rasheed is nothing like a SKS. It is a scaled down Hakim. A direct impingement rifle not a short stroke gas system.
Bought an unissued, more on the rare side Mosin for about $700 early October. Couldn’t believe it was so much. Should’ve gotten the Krag or K-31 next to it. $2000 for a Garand sitting right next to it, old M1903a1 for about $1400 next to that as well.
I got my m91/30 for 200 with 3 boxes of ammo stripper clip belt holders, pretty good condition to have seen combat in 1942 round reciever the bayonet is probably buried in the ground in Russia somewere though other then that all original for 200
I went to a gun show last weekend and they were trying to sell Mosins for 450$!!! Outrageous
Kenny McRae All is not lost tho, I found a good condition, hex receiver, with the bayonet, 91 30 at a gun store for 350$.
@@acenine8149 Y'all are paying way too much for that 75 yo piece of equipment. For that price I would get a Remington .308
just a heads up the spike bayonet is installed upside down on the sks when folding in the flatter side of the bayonet should face outward
I got a k 31 for around 525 dollars earlier this year. Had matching parts, good wood, but no bayonet or sling. Ammo is a pain, cant find it in stores, but online it goes for around 70 cents a round, so not too bad.
All I'm missing is the Swiss. It's been on my buy list for a while
Hey, my local pawn shop has one for $500 asking price. It is an ugly thing now with a very rough stock and the best part: it is missing it's magazine!
Oh the market these days...
I love my k31 and only got it earlier this year. It is a great shooter and i love it. But it did hurt to pay 900. which is something I said I would never do. Fact is I do not see them going down in price. Are you in the USA or Canada?
I got lucky. I got mine from a shop for $300 a few months ago! Matching everything. Great shape. 1944. Came with a cleaning kit, sling, and 3 cans of waffenfett grease. It’s a CAI import though.
Glad I got mine (a 1945 production) when I did a year ago, all matching, good condition, came with a sling for $450. Seems like they're going for $600+ now
They sell for around 100-150 USD here in Switzerland.
Look around in Canada For SKS's. While not a 100$ rifle, the rus are 250 300$Cdn. Chi are also easily found but i dont know about the ban to much. The reason we like them up here in Canada is they are nonrestricted, ie a truck gun but an AR can only go to the range and back. I just got into shooting my SVT 40 (450$) with a BadAce scope mount with a 40$ 3x9 amazon scope. Im clanging steel at 500m and cant wait to start shooting against my Bergara B14 HMR(1600$) with Vortex 6.5x24 . Never underestimate a good surplus rifle.
You got an SVT 40 for 450 Canadian? They go for at least 1250 USD. You guys are lucky to not have import bans up there.
Just purchased my Mosin
We were lucky in Canada for awhile, in 2017 I was able to purchase 3 S.K.S'S AND 1 MOSIN. The S.K.S. ARE 1950, 1952, 195O AND THE MOSIN IS A 1943. paid $750.00 canadian.
Anybody know where i can find a no.1 mk.3 replacement stock set? Im bringing back a sporter and the wood is all i need.
Taranisaurus FPV EBay has them.
What about the Finish version of the Mosin, I have heard they are better but and more accurate?
I think the Springfield ' 03 should have been number one, 1000 rounds still not stopping.
I got three matching Lee Enfields in the early 2000s for 250 for all three. Yay me. Also got a perfect condition Swiss M1911 that was a gift for some work I did. Alas I only have a Chinese and Yugo SKS and not a Russian one and they got too expensive for what I wanted.
A very good place to go to find military surplus guns is the gun show. They are 2nd market but the one i go to has a overabundance of military surplus guns. So if you have a loval convention center you should see there calendar to see when the new gun show near you will be.
Every gun show I go to in Wisconsin the mosin nagant m91/30 are getting sold for 600 plus and at Cabela's there 350 good and great condition on certain parts
The money to be made buying surplus rifles like the mosin is over. They were $79-$100 no more then 8 years ago!!! and pretty much tripped since then...
Smart people who took advantage must have made a killin..
The SKS is a good way to make a poor man's AK-47 in a sense if you convert the magazine like you said but still $600+ isn't THAT cheap when you can buy an AR-15 for the same price.
Nice video tho. Good job man.
Shit I paid 500 for a Smith MP AR. So true sir.
Still trying to find a Mk 4 No. 1 Enfield.
Last gun show I was at I saw no.1 Enfields going for close to 1000 dollars and yugo SKS going for an average of around 750
I had a 7.5 Swiss and it was very accurate very trustworthy and good for the woods. But the ammo is not very common
Yep I was around in the 90's. Any one of those war horse rifles were under a hundred bucks. That's all they're worth to me. I quickly peddled the ones I had when people decided to fork over big money for old scrap. Was fun wasting canned hams of ammo at tin cans. Good old days.
I remember in the 90s Walmart had barrels of SKS for 99 bucks.
just my thought on some of the folks that blame some of the gun sites for the massive price increases and the difficulty finding some of the milsurps which were once easy to find. If anything I think some of these guys just brought more attention to the quality of these guns. Also it is a simple matter of supply and demand. Some countries just are not importing the same numbers they once did. The swiss K31 is a very good example of this. These are high quality rifles and the price has exploded at least up here in the Great White North. Another example is the Russian version of the SKS. We get them up here for an average price of about 250. That is a good quality rifle for a good price. Compare the SKS to a modern day rifle of similar price and caliber. I know they have also become more popular as a whole due to the fact modern day guns are not made with the same quality and do not last nearly as long as the milsurps. I know many people and so called friends of mine laugh at my love of the milsurps but they all still function good and I can hunt or use for self defense. In closing the Russian SKS is way cheaper up here than in the USA. I have family and friends in the states that are very jealous of the price difference. A product that was made 75 to over 100 years old that still works great. What can you compare that to? I mean anything produced in today's market. And if the gun sites were the cause of the prices of milsurps going up send them a thank you for helping to increase the value of your milsurp collection. Have a great day and God bless!! I would like to thank Hickok, Irag vetran and many others for the videos and helping to educate me in the milsurp market.
Has anyone bought a mosin recently? And if so, how much did you pay for it.
What about the Chinese nagant? The type 53 is a good rifle.
I’m pretty sure I’m sitting with the guy that sold you that K31. He recognized it and we looked up where you were.
I picked up a mosin 91/30 for $325 at the nations gun show, and that was one of the cheapest ones there
I would love to find a nice SVT so that I can also keep using my mosin ammo. About two years ago I stupidly passed up a Chinese capture of an arisaka type 38 that had been converted to 7.62x39. That would be a fun one and cheap ammo too.
The milking cow times are over. Here in Europe, single barrel shotguns are no less than 200€ k98 are in average 700€ and up surplus oldies with gold prices.