The Hori Rap N Hayabusa, an excellent fight stick for those who prefers the Noir layout and hayabusa combo. Pack with Lots of features for the given price. And a heavy and solid body keep the stick in place. 🕹
Hori's naming scheme goes like this: FS = Fighting Stick = lower end sticks (Hori clone/generic parts) RAP = Real Arcade Pro = higher end sticks (arcade quality parts) RAP 3/EX = PS3/X360 (older small case/various layouts) SA = Special Addition = SAnwa parts SE = Special Edition = SEimitsu parts RAP V3/VX = PS3/X360 (newer wide case/Vewlix layout/also Kai variants) RAP 4/V Kai = Vewlix extended RAP V = Vewlix standard (JP import) RAP N = Noir Kuro = Hori's older buttons (shiney finish/Sanwa clone) Hyabusa = Hori's current buttons (matte textured), joystick goes by the same name Silent = has silent optical joystick I just got a HRAP 4 Kai and that's when I found out the "Kai" naming just means it's an extended Vewlix layout with more space between the stick and buttons. And the RAP V isn't a "RAP 5", the V just means standard Vewlix. Hopefully this random info is helpful to someone lol.
I bought this stick about 2 years ago. It's phenomenal. Currently playing Guilty Gear Strive on PS5 with it. I have used many Joysticks in my 44 years of gaming and this is the best. Fantastic Review - thank-you good sir!
I'm using this stick for about a year now. It's really excellent. Had the RAP 4 before, but I like the N much better, because the L3, R3, Share- and Turbo buttons are not positioned at the side but right above the lever, so you can reach them easily. Hori also increased the size of the padding on the bottom, so it's more comfortable on your lap and also gives the stick more grip on surfaces/your legs.
Agree. I have the Qanba crystal. I love it but I hate that everything is on the side and I have to look for the L3 R3 buttons. This set up is more convenient and it's A Noir instead of Viewlex.
I got this as my first stick after watching your videos, and I love it! Your channel has really helped me out a lot. Definitely subbed and can't wait to see more content!
Morrty Scott yea around that price, i didnt really like their casing style 🤣 i be happy to pick one up in the future if there is any sales, curious to see one in person ❤️🙏
Man I got interested in arcade sticks really recently and discovered your channel through my researches. Appart from all the knowledge you share Îm really touched by you as a person, that parenthesis on the smell of that brand new stick was so wholesome 💙 I wanted to share you some love please stay the way you are
This 2 year old review of yours plus Jasen Hicks Breaking down the stick featuring the same model from Hori together with the some information I gather around the web reg how this unit fairs with PS5, testimonies from fellow end users (comments below included), availability from where I live at and of course the price point all culminated for me to finally purchase the HORI RAP N as my first ever fight stick. Been using it for a couple of days I can't express how deeply impressed I am on how aesthetically classy it looks, has just the right weight and grip to stay on my lap via the large pads underneath, the wide enough space where I can rest my arms, in game performance (of course) down to how comfortable the Hayabusa part's feel both stick and buttons. Thank you so much JoyStickNY for making this review and making my first fight stick investment such a pleasant experience. Liked and Subscribed!
This channel has potential, I would say get some acoustic foam around the studio to reduce echoing and a lapel mic as the comment below mentioned. I know it’s a lot of work but if you can remake some videos with the new equipments and I bet it’ll make your videos stand out than the other you tubers.
QuanGissle thank you so much for the tip, i will work on the audio 🤣 can you check my newest video and give me your opinion on the sound? This video has the old mic and the new video are using the rode mic, i think its a little better, but still needs more work ❤️🙏
First off, this mans channel is the top tier if you're curious about jumping into the pricey world of arcade sticks. Let's get that RIGHT. This video and his other ones helped me decide on the HORI RAP NOIR when i was doing research in Late 2020. I finally bought mine in Early 2022. I'm updating anyone who's here and on the fence about this stick. It is pricey but WORTH every cent. No one said Arcade Sticks and Hitbox controllers is a cheap hobby my friend. U get what u pay for with these things. Keep that in mind if ur tryna "SAVE an extra 25-50$" The stick works great, buttons and lever still very responsive 2yrs later and feels great to use. My Hori rap has been put through the ringer since Early 2022. 500+Hrs in SFV. 150+Hrs in SF6 100+Hrs Fightcade, emulation, PS4 arcade classics I Traveled with this thing. left it in the trunk of my car under the hot summer sun. Took it to parties etc Still works flawlessly. I'm probably going to buy the PS5 Hori sticks but the RAP N has been putting in the work. 5/5 would recommend if you prefer NOIR layout.
Best review on this arcade stick. You don't speak about the headphone feature. For me, it's a really good feature if you play with others people in the same room. I bought this stick 2 days ago. I really appreciate this Hori Rap N Hayabusa stick !
I have the XB1 version of this stick, the Tekken 7 fightstick. I modded the gate to a 8 way and changed out the buttons to sanwa and changed the color and I LOVE IT. I also got a Brook converter to use it on the PS4 and PS3 and it works GREAT. There is a shortcut/method to imitate the touch pad and it works fine. Love the headphone jack. I use a USB adapter to use headphones on the PS.
Great video man. I wish it would start getting cold out here in the Midwest USA lol. I haven't heard anybody talk about layouts like this before, cool information to know!
Yay another top quality review. Exposure of the video seems to be improved too. To be honest, I mistakenly thought the Hori Rap N means "new edition" the entire time. Once you mentioned "Noir", I then thought it was referring to the color black (thanks to En/Fr bilingual product labels in Canada). Btw, 9:45, the front panel screws are just regular Hex screws (a.k.a allen screws), not octagon. Also these are not security screws- generally security screws are also called tamperproof screws which have center dot or something similar to make the screws extremely difficult to remove without the proper bit. I think it must be a slip on your end, but I still would like to point it out as your videos are at such high quality that near 100% accuracy is expected from viewers. Cheers,
Ting Tian 😊 thank you so much for the love and support, i totally forgot, those security screws have a dot in the middle, i use to work in a college and i had to work with those brackets and screws. Great catch, your comments helps me improve my videos 👍🙏 it helps me not to make the same mistake again ❤️ and your right, when the camera is rolling, sometimes i struggle to find words, by trying not to redo it, i sometimes just go with the easier word, but it may sometimes not be the right vocabulary
I don't play a lot of fighting games but your videos really help me with my anxiety! Your voice is calm! Thanks for helping me with it! Also, I'm seriously considering getting my first stick to learn how to play games on but I don't know what to choose yet. Any ideas on my first game or stick to get?
first game street fighter v (if you want try tekken you should first watch full guides to now how is tekken) and first stick mayflash f500 or f500 elite
I love to use the N. with Tekken 7 because the layout is precisely the same as on the Moves List in Tekken. I also like to color match the 4 buttons to those on the moves list.
I rly hope HORI redesigns their Vewlix sticks to be like this: accident proof options button, art swap functionality, extra buttons on top of stick instead of side panel, etc. I prefer the Vewlix layout, but the RAPN is just such a better designed stick.
You can buy replacement panels for this to fit 35mm full collar Korean levers and work with hitbox layouts. It also works well swapping the PCB to Brook UFB
@@JoystickNY You can also drill the top panel instead to fit full collar Korean stuff but.. Eh. Who wants to do that? Too much can go wrong. Stock with the normal panel short collar levers like the 309MJ, 303DX CDP and Knee/Alpha levers will fit as is though. I use a Myoungshin Fanta 24GN with a stability plate under the microswitches (which adds even more depth) that has a full collar with a custom plate from Jasen's alongside Crown 202MX buttons. It's a dream. I pretty much exclusively use Korean parts as I'm a Tekken player.
Got this stick 2 weeks ago, my first arcade stick and i love it, very premium looking and it’s got some weight on it, your review helped me decide, thanks!
I just ordered one of these based on friend's recommendation because I wanted another stick, glad to hear it's good value. My first cheap stick I modified because of help you showed in old videos about how to do that, so thank you. Also making 2 mistakes in 3rd strike and still a perfect, lol, I make one mistake and I lose. I still have a lot to learn but I appreciate your videos.
man, the more videos of yours I watch, the less I know which fight stick to get (in a good way)! learning so much and relaxing too. thanks so much for the great work. i'll let you know what I end up getting! 🙏
It looks real nice. Was debating between this and the Obsidian and managed to find a used Obsidian for 100 US so I picked it up. Nice review. The compartment seemed much easier to open than the Obsidian's.
jon 100$ for the obsidian is a great deal, good decision. 👍 i think i would get RAP 4 over Rap N tho, I am too used to the vewlix layout lol 😂 my fingers muscle memory is too used to it
@@JoystickNY The heart wants what it wants I guess, lol. Out of all the sticks you own or tried, which one is your favourite, or I guess, what is your "dream stick"?
jon actually, my favorite stick is the HORI RAP 4, mainly because of how thin/flat it is. I am a big fan of hayabusa parts and the thin and long profile of the RAP 4. And for my dream stick, i actually want it to be the RAP 4, but with a detachable cable and easy access to the internals. 🕹👍❤️🙏 i am a simple guy 😂
@@JoystickNY lol. Not the bells and whistles changes how you play anyway. It'd be nice if a lot of sticks had the ease of swapping parts as the Panthera with just a push of a button.
jon i agree, the panthera is a pretty good stick, i wish it was abit longer and flat-ter. Its a bit bulky for me as i play on the table and it adds extra height. But still 1 of my favorite tho
Fábio Pagliarde 😂 thank you, urien was 1 of my favorite characters in 3rd strike, i was disappointed that he works so differently in SFV, alot of bread and butter doesnt work the same way anymore, i like the 3rd strike urien more. ❤️🙏😊🕹
@@JoystickNY I play Alex on both games! I think they got Alex too wrong on Sfv! He is not zangief to be slow and rely too much on just grabs. Alex should be the striker with good grabs, but now he is a duck that doesn't fly well neither swim hahaha
Fábio Pagliarde yea, maybe its us lol 😂 cuz you know how people dont like changes in general? They change pretty much alot to make it feel fresh i guess, they took away akumas neutral air fireball, that was so sad, but i guess they realized it was too powerful. 🕹
2:56 Most Namco Noir Tekken 7 cabinets use the 6 button layout with the last 2 buttons equipped with button hole plugs. Just because those cabinets can later be converted to a 6 button game without ordering a new panel. A standard Namco Noir cab has 6 buttons but there is a 4 button only variant but I saw those only a few times on Noir cabs with Tekken 7. Most Tekken 7 cabinets use standard Noir cabs and even the official Tekken 7 cabinet that has the grey and gold Tekken specific coloring uses the 6 button layout with the last 2 plugged. I'm also pretty sure the gold coloring on the Hori N. is inspired by the gold design on the official Tekken cabinet.
One thing you didnt mention about the noir layout is that compared to the vewlix, the distance between the stick and buttons is greater on the noir layout. Also I feel like no one mentions how close this stick feels to playing on an actual arcade cab.
Dee Dip Dip i am not sure if the rap 4 and rap N follow the actually layout measurements for the stick, it seems very close to me. I have to double check that, i do know the official measures have a greater distance. 🙏👍❤️
Hori released a few sticks with the noir stick distance but viewlex buttons. I know my switch hrap V is like that, I'm sure other hraps are like that too
Before I bought this stick I watch this video like more than 5 times. I gotta say you're right, this looks a lot better holding than looking at it on pictures.
I keep debating on whether to just grab this stick, or keep waiting for HORI to finally bring out that "teased prototype" that was shown back in 2018. This video really helped with giving me more information on what decisions to make. Currently using a RAP 4 Kai with Sanwa silent buttons, and it's been great to me since I got it back at launch. (Changed the original buttons to Sanwa silent in June 2017) But I still feel like it's time for a new stick, soon.
I think a lot of companies are waiting to release their product next year on the same time with playstation 5, because they dont want to release a product for a ps4 or xbox1 and it will only have 1 year of life left, from now to before ps5, we are not really going to see anything exciting, if you know what i mean, and i would recommend waiting to get a stick for the ps5. 🙏❤️ and thank you for watching
Very informative, was worried after I impulse bought this arcade stick as my first stick for tekken 7 😅 but after watching this I feel pretty relieved lol
I actually have this RAP N. Granted it came in as the SOULCALIBUR VI edition, but the same fight stick nonetheless. The one thing I like about the RAP N is the ability to remove the top panel to access the buttons and joystick lever without removing the warranty label.
So far only Hori makes Noir. This is priced $169, sometimes drops to $129. I think people can spend $30 for a fancier FIght Edge. RAP Noir is good and beautiful, all buttons are on the top, very clear to see, a cover for Option buttons, preventing accidental touch. Fighting edge has a clean top, just move Option button further away to prevent accidental touch. I use RAP 4 Kai, after I set L1 and L2 as VS and VT's hotkeys, I had no longer press Option by accident. Hayabusa parts perform well, I just don't like their high pitch noise compared to Sanwa.
n Squared i actually prefer the rap4 design, because it looks more clean, and the buttons are on the side now, and we pretty much dont touch those toggle much 🙏❤️
Personally I prefer the noir layout, as I find the joystick is a little too close on the viewlix layout. So far I've only own Hori sticks, mainly due to the Noir layout.
Great reviews. After watching numerous reviews from u, it comes down to this one and mayflash f500 elite. Any recommendations? This is going to be my first stick. Thanks
I have this same fight stick with the Tekken 7 version. I really like it. I changed the buttons to sanwa just for a small project and I have a seimitsu 56 joystick coming in the next few days. Again just to see what the change does.
14:55 If you would use this for hours every day, a height adjustable table would be the key so your wrists wouldn't touch the edge of the arcade stick.
Thats amazing, by the way, you cant go wrong with this stick, arslan ash won evo 2019 tekken with this stick, play the video watch his hand if u wanna see it. 👍🕹
@@JoystickNY well I have a Razer for the one have a Street Fighter cross Tekken and MLG arcade fight stick addition for the 360 tournament edition for PlayStation 3 but I feel like through the legacy connection I might have a little lag input so I'm looking for arcade stick for PlayStation 4 🤔🕹 your video was very helpful and yes I will wait on the sale 😃🕹but I appreciate the review on this arcade stick thank you 👊🔥🕹😎
Jeffery Johnson definitely take your time, those left over sticks are going no where but on sale eventually. Wait for a ps5 stick, its gona be backward compatible with the ps4.
@@JoystickNY that's awesome bro but I'm kind of pissed off I just recently got a PlayStation 4 but if you're saying they're going to be backwards compatible I should just wait 🤔🕹 thank you for informing me 👊🕹😎
Yup, Just plug and play on steam, not sure about other emulators ❤️🙏 if you are planning to buy 1, maybe wait abit, ps5 is around the corner and we may see a lot of sales ❤️🙏
I'm finally getting one of these HRAP N's this year! I figure it might be one of my last opportunities to get one in NEW condition! I tried the Hori Fighting Edge but I just did not like that joystick and returned it. The case plastic feels very cheap to me, the cable compartment door arrived popped off like on every HRAP V, and other than the brushed metal faceplate I didn't see the big deal about it; the joystick's not worth it for a "lower latency" you can't see and less functionality than the HRAP V. It's sad that we get charged $50 more for a joystick that lacks Turbo function AND backwards compatibility. You're perfectly free to enjoy the Fighting Edge or any other joystick -- I'm not gonna criticize you for that but I know where I'm spending my money!!! The Hori pushbuttons as far as I'm concerned are just good as the Sanwa OBSF-30's; very little to choose between them. Both very responsive. The reason the Sanwas are still more convenient is because A) they have more colors available and have transparent ones for custom art button art and B) it's a lot easier to find Sanwas in stock at most parts vendors. There's a very limited supply of Hori Hayabusa pushbuttons out there and they sell out quickly when arcade parts shops can get them. The base of the HRAP N I know well since I have its ancestor, the first release of this case style, the Hori Soul Calibur V joystick. I know I'm going to like the HRAP N because A) I got it cheaper than my SC V(!) and B) I'm finally getting a joystick base that has all Hayabusa parts. I so like buying a joystick where I DON'T have to swap out the control lever. I prefer the Hayabusa lever already; it's been my favorite control lever for 7 years now. It's possible I might buy a Hori Hayabusa optical joystick and install that in the HRAP N. The HRAP N is compatible out of the box with the optical joystick. It has a 6-pin attachment for the optical harness on the PCB. If I like the optical joystick, I'll probably install the spare Hayabusa in my old Diamond VLX. Waste not with arcade parts. If you don't like something, maybe you can trade or sell it online to someone who can use it!
Great information, thank you so much for sharing, i agree with you, i use hori hayabusa buttons mainly, its my go to buttons for now, i still have alot of gamer fingers to test, and then i will see if i willl stick with hayabusa buttons or use gamer fingers
I've owned this stick for a few years and i only have one complaint and its definitely just a personal thing but the buttons hori buttons that come in it feel very sensative which may just be caused by me not holding my fingers far enough off the buttons but this isn't a hard thing to fix, just be warned if you are a bit heavy handed that the buttons offer little resistance but with that your hands definitely don't feel as worn out at the end of long sessions
I would leave the hayabusa buttons just the way are and replace the hayabusa lever with a sanwa JLF lever because the hayabusa lever is oversensitive. And I also recommend an eight-way restrictor gate and a bat-top. Plus, sanwa buttons are oversensitive.
Great review! Do you happen to know if the Soulcalibur vi Hori stick is identical to the Rap N? They seem identical but I haven't seen anybody do a comparison! Thanks and great job on the vid! Subscribed!
Correct, the soul calibur hori stick is the same as the hori rap N, they both have hayabusa parts and the same button layouts, thank you for watching 🙏❤️🕹
You’ve been my go to person for info on FightStick’s. I just got the MayFlash f500 v2 and having trouble keeping it connected. Is there something I’m doing wrong? Does it need a firmware upgrade that you know of? Also I found one of these online for $110 and really liking this FighStick. I just ordered 2 MagicBoots for the FightSticks I currently have.
JoyStickNY yea I keep having to unplug whichever wire it is at the time. MagicBoots will hopefully fix it or at at least make it somewhat easier to stay connected, i was wondering if there’s some sort of Firmware that may keep it running better overall.
Chris Dat -Membaaa?- try to take a look at their site for a firmware update, so far i havent updated my f300 or f300 elite, they are working okay, but i am on consoles like xbox 360 n ps4
JoyStickNY ok thanks I’m learning new stuff every day. I’m currently changing out the restrictor gate. I’ll check that out as soon as I’m done. If I play Injustice 2 I should change it out for the Octagon one right?
Ps3, Ps4 and actuality PC) I found just one problem, audio jack 3.5 mm can't hear the sound when I'm on PC. Who knows how it works? However great stick.
@@JoystickNYhi .. I own the rap 4 and I've managed to set the touch pad to reset when practicing sf v .. tho it was possible to configure it only through steam controller configuration .
Can anyone tell me if the Rap N is worth getting anymore? I initially wanted to get an Etokki Omni but the shipping is $80 for where I live so I can't afford it
I dont think is worth it anymore, there is a new stick that came out for the hori, looks really nice and the price is very similar, check their website, i think they only have the xbox version so far. What console r u using it for
So I bought this stick not to long ago but I don’t use it because I don’t like square gate an play on octo gate. Don’t know what octo gate to order for the hayabusa since I have never owned a hori stick until now. An recommendations on which one to get?
SkillZ Vs You take a look at the kowal hayabusa octagon gate, its pretty popular. Focus attack website has it too, check amazon or ebay too. Let me know if you find it
I would prob have to give it to the qanba obsidian, that is also the most popular arcade stick in the whole fighting game community, in terms of design; priced spec, over all 👍🕹
Hayabusa buttons suck. I've been using my Rap4 for 2 years and I just switched to Sanwa buttons and OMG is my life changed. I will still Buy these Hori sticks because they look good to me but im buying button replacements for any future sticks
Howdy. Would you recommend either this or the HRAP Kai. cheapest I can get some sticks for is HRAP 4 Kai - $205AUD (Amazon) HRAP N - $250AUD (Amazon) HRAP N in stores - $350 (EB Games) Qanba Drone- $125 (just for reference) (Amazon) I play on PC and PS4. I'm not sure if the extra $50 is worth it for the N. Sticks are just expensive here it seems. Also with Sony saying PS4 controllers with work on PS5 I'm happy to get one now. Thanks. Love your videos.
HRAP N is better i think because it has a better weight to play on lap. Kai is 2.2 kg RAP N is 3 kg. You need this weight for stability on lap. RAP N has also much more convenient L3 R3 buttons on the front panel. helps in trainign stage to save load state. NOIR layout on RAP N also gives more space between the joystick and the buttons so i have no double RAP N is best.
@@okakokakiev787 Thanks :). I'll go for the HRAP N. The new Hori alpha stick looks great as well but I think it'll be outside my budget when it comes out Hori RAP N looks like great value.
Both are great sticks, i prefer the rap4, becuz i like a more flat and longer shape. And i prefer the vewlix layout, if you notice, all my video are pretty much made with the rap4. Both will get the job done 🙏❤️
thank for the good review do you think its comfort to put your hands over it on a table ? especially it does not have a curved armrest like the hori rap 4 i like the stick but i am not using the stick on my lap, usually over a table like u .
Ahmed Alnajjar i actually have no problem using the stick on the table, but for the video, i was sitting pretty high and the stick is almost at my chest level, but when i play off camera, i usually put the stick at like stomach height, because the motion is better when the stick is much lower than your body. Imagine your self sitting on a sofa, then i put the stick on a chair, so the stick is very low giving me a much better position 😊🕹❤️ playing on my lap doesnt give me a good execution and comfort
@@JoystickNY casually Tekken on _PlayStation_ but I'm striving for Guilty Gear Strive. and since PS5s are out of sale it's gonna be _PC_ for that one. First: Just wow that you response to an comment for a 1-year old video :D Second: After that video i watched your Pad vs Arcade Stick comparison video and now i wonder if I need an Arcade Stick at all. I do own a Razer Ultimate (but it's starting to fall apart). And when i switched the D-Pad to the D-Panel i actually got combos right in GG Xrd Rev2.... but i love the gold and black design on this Stick
I always recommend a stick, because it makes fighting games easier , and its a diff experience, theres alot of short cuts on stick that is harder to do on a pad, and techniques too, i think over all, a stick is more fun. You start with a qanba drone, professional tekken7 player UYU yuyu uses it for tournaments. You never know, you might be good with stick and not know it. 🙏❤️
Thanks a lot for the advice. So now since the qanba drone is almost as expensive as the Hori RAP N (shipping to Europe) my choice fell on the Hori. Your videos helped a lot in not only making this decision but knowing what I'm actually choosing. It arrives on Friday. I'll keep you updated if I'm into Arcade Sticks by then :D.
I got big hands and play a lot of tekken i bought the pro N just yesterday and is my very first arcade litteraly having to learn to walk again however I love it already and i can play longer and can do more precise inputs already
@@JoystickNY yeah loving it it's like learning to walk again but i perform quarter circles with ease make moves like electrics more accessible Also thanks for the reply 😃
I had this stick for two years and I absolutely loved it but I ended up selling it cause..well cause I’m stupid. Now I wanna buy it again and I’m finding this along with every stick is sold out..like what’s going on
@@JoystickNY My 1st arcade stick is Hori Fighting Edge, Now wanna buy another stick for my daughter, any suggestion to choose between Hori RAP N / Nacon Daija / Razer Panthera EVO? Is it Panthera EVO will be better?
Seng Hou Wong out of all 3 sticks you mention, they all share the same shape, the RAP N is a mid range stick, and the panthera and nacon are premium sticks. 140, 199 & 199. The evo has razer’s own mechanical buttons, i tried it before but i dont own one, i have to play with it for sometime to really tell if its better than sanwa or hayabusas. But i think razer is the better choice out of the 3, nacon is still new to the game, i havent had the chance to try the nacon yet, but its on my list. But seems like you have a high budget tho 😂
@@JoystickNY I had purchased Mad Catz SFV fight stick(small one)for my daughter last month, just unboxed & do a few test, then the button just totally "died", so dissapointed on that stick. So I don't consider low-end stick anymore. Maybe will choose Panthera EVO after read your comment, thanks.
Seng Hou Wong cant go wrong with razer sticks, if anything, they have warranty, and razer is basically the biggest gaming equipment company, they should have pretty good quality
Been watching some of your videos now that I'm getting more into fighting games. I picked up a Qanba Drone as a starter stick. I definitely am loving playing with a stick but definitely looking to upgrade to a higher quality. Might go with this rather than the RAP 4. Great review.
Hey JT?? Fellow NYC gamer here. I have a question. My Madcatz TE2+ is literally not operating at all. When I have it plugged in my PS4 for instance, nothing turns on. There are no lights or anything coming on the stick. It's like it's totally dead. What do you think it could be?? I'd like some idea before I outright buy a new board. Thanks for any response. Liking your channel. Keep up the good work.😊
Double check the internals and make sure nothing is loose, then try to unplug everything and plug it back in the same place, if it still doesnt turn on, It may be a dead board, the madcatz TE sticks did have a known issue with their pcb dying, not sure if they ever fixed that issue before going out of business, or some could be a bad batch.
I think all of them will work for dbfz, internally is pretty much the same parts, if you are not sure, look for sanwa parts inside a stick, which most 100+ sticks have
Thanks, I bought a Hori RAP N, based on your review! Unfortunately, I decided to mod it a week ago and I stripped the screws holding the back panel. Do you have any idea what size those screws are?
Hi there , i enjoy your channel and your review very much , great job keep it up , Quick question, i want to make the transition form pad to arcade stick and i have 3 in mind , the panthera , the quanba obsidian and this one , use for sfv , ps4 mainly , which one do you recommend?
Thank you for the support 🙏❤️ Looks like your price range is around 150-200. I think you can go with the qanba obsidian, it is the #1 popular stick in tournaments, #2 prob the razer panthera. And skip this one, they raised the price, i dont think is worth it now.
@@JoystickNY thank you very much for your fast response and your advice !! Looking forward for more content from you and your channel and i wish you the best !
Thank you, the edge and the rap4 is technically the same parts, just looks different, but the edge has a diff button layout, noir vs vewlix on the rap4. The qanba dragon has sanwa parts, the edge has hori hayabusa parts, Dragon is more expensive cuz of design, but both are tournament level sticks
That one is actually on the list, i want to review alot of sticks, thank you for the support 🙏❤️ my content is abit slow because i work a work full time job, hopefully i can go part time and have more time to create gaming content
Joystick NY I will patiently wait for that video! I really like your content, as long as you keep the quality high like now I think we are fine with 1 vid a week or so :)
Long Le maybe a little longer 😂, i feel like my speed is like 2 video a month, but i really appreciates the love and support, you guys motivate me and keeps me going 🙏❤️
There are so few options for Noir layouts in the stick market... and the one I want I can't find to purchase anywhere. How the hell do you buy an Etokki Omni?
Is the Noir layout too different ????? I want the RAP 4 but it doesn’t have headphone jack, this one has headphone jack but im not sure if the Noir layout its going to throw me off.
I find the vewlix more comfortable, the noir is less popular. More sticks on the market uses the vewlix. I usually dont use headphones for fighting games. It works for me 🙏❤️ shooting game i need headphones like cs and warzone
My HORI rap pad won't seem to connect to my ps4, the stick is clearly on when the usb is inserted but my ps4 can't connect it. It used to work when I first got the stick, any possible solutions for a fix or should I go for a repair shop or just get a new one?
@@JoystickNY I think the model name is rap real arcade pro.n Hayabusa. But hey I figured it out, just had to mess around the with settings on the pad! Thanks for the reply tho dude 👍
bassche -kld1 yes, all sticks that are sold right now are wired, i think only if you custom build your stick, you can have wireless, but for fighting game, i would not recommend wireless
JoyStickNY Okay, thank you very much for what you show on your channel on the sticks, It’s really very useful, on this continues as you are the best youtuber in explaining the sticks, Continue like her!👍👍
The Hori Rap N Hayabusa, an excellent fight stick for those who prefers the Noir layout and hayabusa combo.
Pack with Lots of features for the given price. And a heavy and solid body keep the stick in place. 🕹
What stick was the example one in the beginning
Bruhh Bruhhh its the madcatz st4 tornament stick , its a budget stick
JoyStickNY thank you so much
Have you done video to change artwork on the hori rap n if so I would like to see it if you have the time.
Chazzrick thomas i did not change it, i usually like the factory art from all the sticks, i usually dont mess with the artwork 🙏❤️
Hori's naming scheme goes like this:
FS = Fighting Stick = lower end sticks (Hori clone/generic parts)
RAP = Real Arcade Pro = higher end sticks (arcade quality parts)
RAP 3/EX = PS3/X360 (older small case/various layouts)
SA = Special Addition = SAnwa parts
SE = Special Edition = SEimitsu parts
RAP V3/VX = PS3/X360 (newer wide case/Vewlix layout/also Kai variants)
RAP 4/V Kai = Vewlix extended
RAP V = Vewlix standard (JP import)
RAP N = Noir
Kuro = Hori's older buttons (shiney finish/Sanwa clone)
Hyabusa = Hori's current buttons (matte textured), joystick goes by the same name
Silent = has silent optical joystick
I just got a HRAP 4 Kai and that's when I found out the "Kai" naming just means it's an extended Vewlix layout with more space between the stick and buttons. And the RAP V isn't a "RAP 5", the V just means standard Vewlix.
Hopefully this random info is helpful to someone lol.
Thank you so much for sharing, great info for the viewers ❤️🙏
I feel like I learned more from reading your comment than I do from watching most videos. lol
Thanks for taking the time to write it!
Best Arcade Stick reviewer on UA-cam!
Amp i really appreciate the kind words 🙏❤️ thank you
Obviously
thank you for the support 🙏❤️
I bought this stick about 2 years ago. It's phenomenal. Currently playing Guilty Gear Strive on PS5 with it. I have used many Joysticks in my 44 years of gaming and this is the best.
Fantastic Review - thank-you good sir!
Thank you so much ❤️🙏
I'm using this stick for about a year now. It's really excellent. Had the RAP 4 before, but I like the N much better, because the L3, R3, Share- and Turbo buttons are not positioned at the side but right above the lever, so you can reach them easily. Hori also increased the size of the padding on the bottom, so it's more comfortable on your lap and also gives the stick more grip on surfaces/your legs.
5H1N081 that is nice to know, thank you for letting us know. Yea it is well built for the price. Definitely a good stick to start with. ❤️👍🕹🙏
Agree. I have the Qanba crystal. I love it but I hate that everything is on the side and I have to look for the L3 R3 buttons. This set up is more convenient and it's A Noir instead of Viewlex.
I got this as my first stick after watching your videos, and I love it! Your channel has really helped me out a lot. Definitely subbed and can't wait to see more content!
Morrty Scott thank you so much ❤️🙏 glad i was able to help
@@JoystickNY have you looked into the Snackbox?
Morrty Scott i seen some pictures, but didnt really dig much in to it, seems pretty expensive for a case tho
@@JoystickNY i think you can order them all assembled and the total cost is around $150 USD?
Morrty Scott yea around that price, i didnt really like their casing style 🤣 i be happy to pick one up in the future if there is any sales, curious to see one in person ❤️🙏
Man I got interested in arcade sticks really recently and discovered your channel through my researches.
Appart from all the knowledge you share Îm really touched by you as a person, that parenthesis on the smell of that brand new stick was so wholesome 💙
I wanted to share you some love please stay the way you are
Appreciate the support, i always smell new things lol, even shoes sometimes, keyboard, mouse , etc
This 2 year old review of yours plus Jasen Hicks Breaking down the stick featuring the same model from Hori together with the some information I gather around the web reg how this unit fairs with PS5, testimonies from fellow end users (comments below included), availability from where I live at and of course the price point all culminated for me to finally purchase the HORI RAP N as my first ever fight stick. Been using it for a couple of days I can't express how deeply impressed I am on how aesthetically classy it looks, has just the right weight and grip to stay on my lap via the large pads underneath, the wide enough space where I can rest my arms, in game performance (of course) down to how comfortable the Hayabusa part's feel both stick and buttons. Thank you so much JoyStickNY for making this review and making my first fight stick investment such a pleasant experience. Liked and Subscribed!
Thank you so much for the support, 🙏❤️
This channel has potential, I would say get some acoustic foam around the studio to reduce echoing and a lapel mic as the comment below mentioned. I know it’s a lot of work but if you can remake some videos with the new equipments and I bet it’ll make your videos stand out than the other you tubers.
QuanGissle thank you so much for the tip, i will work on the audio 🤣 can you check my newest video and give me your opinion on the sound? This video has the old mic and the new video are using the rode mic, i think its a little better, but still needs more work ❤️🙏
First off, this mans channel is the top tier if you're curious about jumping into the pricey world of arcade sticks. Let's get that RIGHT.
This video and his other ones helped me decide on the HORI RAP NOIR when i was doing research in Late 2020.
I finally bought mine in Early 2022.
I'm updating anyone who's here and on the fence about this stick.
It is pricey but WORTH every cent. No one said Arcade Sticks and Hitbox controllers is a cheap hobby my friend. U get what u pay for with these things. Keep that in mind if ur tryna "SAVE an extra 25-50$" The stick works great, buttons and lever still very responsive 2yrs later and feels great to use. My Hori rap has been put through the ringer since Early 2022.
500+Hrs in SFV.
150+Hrs in SF6
100+Hrs Fightcade, emulation, PS4 arcade classics
I Traveled with this thing. left it in the trunk of my car under the hot summer sun. Took it to parties etc
Still works flawlessly. I'm probably going to buy the PS5 Hori sticks but the RAP N has been putting in the work.
5/5 would recommend if you prefer NOIR layout.
8:06 that's where I would keep my snacks.
Mystninja yea, can probably put a small banana in there lol 😂
I bought this fight stick after seeing many reviews on YT. Your review is by far the best one in the universe.
Thank you for the kind words friend, this is a great stick, arslan ash won evo 2019 tekken with this stick 🙏❤️
Best review on this arcade stick. You don't speak about the headphone feature. For me, it's a really good feature if you play with others people in the same room. I bought this stick 2 days ago. I really appreciate this Hori Rap N Hayabusa stick !
Good catch, thank you for the reminder, i actually never used headphones when playing games, only for counter strike 🙏❤️
I have the XB1 version of this stick, the Tekken 7 fightstick. I modded the gate to a 8 way and changed out the buttons to sanwa and changed the color and I LOVE IT. I also got a Brook converter to use it on the PS4 and PS3 and it works GREAT. There is a shortcut/method to imitate the touch pad and it works fine. Love the headphone jack. I use a USB adapter to use headphones on the PS.
Sounds like a really good system you got there, i can tell you are a serious player 👍 thank you for sharing 🙏❤️
do you have any latency/time issues with the converter?
Great video man. I wish it would start getting cold out here in the Midwest USA lol. I haven't heard anybody talk about layouts like this before, cool information to know!
d poops The weather in new york is weird, it gets into cold and hot sometimes, feels like we dont get the four seasons over here lol 🕹🙏❤️ thank you
Yay another top quality review. Exposure of the video seems to be improved too. To be honest, I mistakenly thought the Hori Rap N means "new edition" the entire time. Once you mentioned "Noir", I then thought it was referring to the color black (thanks to En/Fr bilingual product labels in Canada). Btw, 9:45, the front panel screws are just regular Hex screws (a.k.a allen screws), not octagon. Also these are not security screws- generally security screws are also called tamperproof screws which have center dot or something similar to make the screws extremely difficult to remove without the proper bit. I think it must be a slip on your end, but I still would like to point it out as your videos are at such high quality that near 100% accuracy is expected from viewers. Cheers,
Ting Tian 😊 thank you so much for the love and support, i totally forgot, those security screws have a dot in the middle, i use to work in a college and i had to work with those brackets and screws. Great catch, your comments helps me improve my videos 👍🙏 it helps me not to make the same mistake again ❤️ and your right, when the camera is rolling, sometimes i struggle to find words, by trying not to redo it, i sometimes just go with the easier word, but it may sometimes not be the right vocabulary
I don't play a lot of fighting games but your videos really help me with my anxiety! Your voice is calm! Thanks for helping me with it! Also, I'm seriously considering getting my first stick to learn how to play games on but I don't know what to choose yet. Any ideas on my first game or stick to get?
first game street fighter v (if you want try tekken you should first watch full guides to now how is tekken) and first stick mayflash f500 or f500 elite
Check my lastest video , theres 3 entry sticks you can look at
I love your content! I think a lapel microphone would improve the experience of watching them
Yea, i have to look in to my audio, check my newer videos, tell me what you think. Is it better ? 🙏❤️
@@JoystickNY yeah, it's much better now!
I think mine still needs alot of work, becuz when i hear other peoples video, they sound so good.
@@JoystickNY don't worry man Your videos have awesome quality ! And we love them ❤️
I love to use the N. with Tekken 7 because the layout is precisely the same as on the Moves List in Tekken. I also like to color match the 4 buttons to those on the moves list.
Its an excellent stick, aslan ash won take 2019 evo with this stick 🙏❤️ thank you for watching
12:32 just wanna share my favorite part. Thanks for the review too, I needed this!
Thank you 🙏❤️
Mad 3rd strike skills here my dude
Phú Nguyễn thank you my friend 🙏🙏🙏
Good video. This has helped my friend decide which stick to get. Thanks.
Vash16xli glad it was helpful, 🙏 thank you for watching
Just got this after being convinced by your video review. My 1st stick and prepping for KOF and project L, thanks so much!
I rly hope HORI redesigns their Vewlix sticks to be like this: accident proof options button, art swap functionality, extra buttons on top of stick instead of side panel, etc. I prefer the Vewlix layout, but the RAPN is just such a better designed stick.
Winlee620 i wish we see more new sticks next year too ❤️🙏
Nice review very informative and I like the little history lesson before the review 👍👍👍
Thank you for watching 🙏❤️🕹
You can buy replacement panels for this to fit 35mm full collar Korean levers and work with hitbox layouts. It also works well swapping the PCB to Brook UFB
Mikhail Naumov oh yea, this one is definitely roomy enough for korean parts. 🙏 Thank you sharing
@@JoystickNY You can also drill the top panel instead to fit full collar Korean stuff but.. Eh. Who wants to do that? Too much can go wrong. Stock with the normal panel short collar levers like the 309MJ, 303DX CDP and Knee/Alpha levers will fit as is though. I use a Myoungshin Fanta 24GN with a stability plate under the microswitches (which adds even more depth) that has a full collar with a custom plate from Jasen's alongside Crown 202MX buttons. It's a dream. I pretty much exclusively use Korean parts as I'm a Tekken player.
Mikhail Naumov that makes sense, i was gonna say you must play a lot of tekken 👍 i am still learning tekken 😂
Got this stick 2 weeks ago, my first arcade stick and i love it, very premium looking and it’s got some weight on it, your review helped me decide, thanks!
Did you know arslan ash won evo tekken 2019 with this stick?
If u pause at them during the video, u can see he is using it 👍🕹
I just ordered one of these based on friend's recommendation because I wanted another stick, glad to hear it's good value. My first cheap stick I modified because of help you showed in old videos about how to do that, so thank you. Also making 2 mistakes in 3rd strike and still a perfect, lol, I make one mistake and I lose. I still have a lot to learn but I appreciate your videos.
3rd strike is my fav fg of all time 🙏❤️🕹 and thank you for the support
Good video. Thanks for explaining the noir layout, and congrats on 1k subs.
Tripcore thank you 🙏 its almost a year , appreciate you guys 🕹❤️
man, the more videos of yours I watch, the less I know which fight stick to get (in a good way)! learning so much and relaxing too.
thanks so much for the great work. i'll let you know what I end up getting! 🙏
That makes so much sense lol, becuz you are making a more educated purchase , instead of blindly buying base off brands or hype 👍😊
It looks real nice. Was debating between this and the Obsidian and managed to find a used Obsidian for 100 US so I picked it up. Nice review. The compartment seemed much easier to open than the Obsidian's.
jon 100$ for the obsidian is a great deal, good decision. 👍 i think i would get RAP 4 over Rap N tho, I am too used to the vewlix layout lol 😂 my fingers muscle memory is too used to it
@@JoystickNY The heart wants what it wants I guess, lol. Out of all the sticks you own or tried, which one is your favourite, or I guess, what is your "dream stick"?
jon actually, my favorite stick is the HORI RAP 4, mainly because of how thin/flat it is. I am a big fan of hayabusa parts and the thin and long profile of the RAP 4. And for my dream stick, i actually want it to be the RAP 4, but with a detachable cable and easy access to the internals. 🕹👍❤️🙏 i am a simple guy 😂
@@JoystickNY lol. Not the bells and whistles changes how you play anyway. It'd be nice if a lot of sticks had the ease of swapping parts as the Panthera with just a push of a button.
jon i agree, the panthera is a pretty good stick, i wish it was abit longer and flat-ter. Its a bit bulky for me as i play on the table and it adds extra height. But still 1 of my favorite tho
Just bought this stick and I love it. Great review! I had a MadCatz TE 2 for 10 years.
Thank you for watching ❤️🙏 thats a great collector stick
14:40 "They know how to block." - They Die. hahaha I really like to see you play Urien in 3rd strike :D
Fábio Pagliarde 😂 thank you, urien was 1 of my favorite characters in 3rd strike, i was disappointed that he works so differently in SFV, alot of bread and butter doesnt work the same way anymore, i like the 3rd strike urien more. ❤️🙏😊🕹
@@JoystickNY I play Alex on both games! I think they got Alex too wrong on Sfv! He is not zangief to be slow and rely too much on just grabs. Alex should be the striker with good grabs, but now he is a duck that doesn't fly well neither swim hahaha
Fábio Pagliarde yea, maybe its us lol 😂 cuz you know how people dont like changes in general? They change pretty much alot to make it feel fresh i guess, they took away akumas neutral air fireball, that was so sad, but i guess they realized it was too powerful. 🕹
Your unboxing and info of this fight stick is the reason why I chose to order it lol great video
Its an excellent stick, arslan ashe won tekken evo 2019 with this stick 👍🕹
2:56 Most Namco Noir Tekken 7 cabinets use the 6 button layout with the last 2 buttons equipped with button hole plugs. Just because those cabinets can later be converted to a 6 button game without ordering a new panel. A standard Namco Noir cab has 6 buttons but there is a 4 button only variant but I saw those only a few times on Noir cabs with Tekken 7.
Most Tekken 7 cabinets use standard Noir cabs and even the official Tekken 7 cabinet that has the grey and gold Tekken specific coloring uses the 6 button layout with the last 2 plugged.
I'm also pretty sure the gold coloring on the Hori N. is inspired by the gold design on the official Tekken cabinet.
Interesting info, thank you for sharing 🙏❤️
I've had this stick a while now, i really love it
One thing you didnt mention about the noir layout is that compared to the vewlix, the distance between the stick and buttons is greater on the noir layout. Also I feel like no one mentions how close this stick feels to playing on an actual arcade cab.
Dee Dip Dip i am not sure if the rap 4 and rap N follow the actually layout measurements for the stick, it seems very close to me. I have to double check that, i do know the official measures have a greater distance. 🙏👍❤️
Hori released a few sticks with the noir stick distance but viewlex buttons. I know my switch hrap V is like that, I'm sure other hraps are like that too
mrsteven yea it seems like hori is the only company that makes noirs, i hardly see noir layout that much 🙏 thank you for watching
take a shot everytime JSNY says "at the time" LMAO love your content man!
Thank you for watching 🤣 my english no good 🤣
Before I bought this stick I watch this video like more than 5 times. I gotta say you're right, this looks a lot better holding than looking at it on pictures.
You cant go wrong with this stick, arslan ash won evo2019 tekken 7 with this stick 👍🕹😊❤️
I keep debating on whether to just grab this stick, or keep waiting for HORI to finally bring out that "teased prototype" that was shown back in 2018.
This video really helped with giving me more information on what decisions to make.
Currently using a RAP 4 Kai with Sanwa silent buttons, and it's been great to me since I got it back at launch. (Changed the original buttons to Sanwa silent in June 2017) But I still feel like it's time for a new stick, soon.
I think a lot of companies are waiting to release their product next year on the same time with playstation 5, because they dont want to release a product for a ps4 or xbox1 and it will only have 1 year of life left, from now to before ps5, we are not really going to see anything exciting, if you know what i mean, and i would recommend waiting to get a stick for the ps5. 🙏❤️ and thank you for watching
Very informative, was worried after I impulse bought this arcade stick as my first stick for tekken 7 😅 but after watching this I feel pretty relieved lol
NextGenBluePro thank you, and by the way, arslan ash uses this stick.
JoyStickNY no way, that’s awesome :O
NextGenBluePro ua-cam.com/video/aQpkglYbF5I/v-deo.html start watching at 35 seconds time stamp 👍🕹
I actually have this RAP N. Granted it came in as the SOULCALIBUR VI edition, but the same fight stick nonetheless. The one thing I like about the RAP N is the ability to remove the top panel to access the buttons and joystick lever without removing the warranty label.
Yup, its great stick, thank you for sharing 🙏❤️
@@JoystickNY No problem. Stay safe.
Great video thanks. Will you consider doing a retrospective review on the RAP 4 Kai?
Raymond Chan that one is on my list, it am working down the list. thank you for the suggestion 🙏❤️
that SFV sfa2 ref. cover is wicked!!
For real 😄🙏❤️👍
So far only Hori makes Noir. This is priced $169, sometimes drops to $129. I think people can spend $30 for a fancier FIght Edge.
RAP Noir is good and beautiful, all buttons are on the top, very clear to see, a cover for Option buttons, preventing accidental touch. Fighting edge has a clean top, just move Option button further away to prevent accidental touch. I use RAP 4 Kai, after I set L1 and L2 as VS and VT's hotkeys, I had no longer press Option by accident.
Hayabusa parts perform well, I just don't like their high pitch noise compared to Sanwa.
1116Jin thank you for sharing, n thank you for watching 🙏🕹❤️
The same than the Old Hori SCV on 360 but with Hayabusa/Kuro parts against Sanwa for SCV. I use my SCV on my One with cronusmax !
Thank you for sharing ❤️🙏
I still prefer and miss the HRAP 3 design/build. I so miss my PS3 SA.
n Squared i actually prefer the rap4 design, because it looks more clean, and the buttons are on the side now, and we pretty much dont touch those toggle much 🙏❤️
Personally I prefer the noir layout, as I find the joystick is a little too close on the viewlix layout. So far I've only own Hori sticks, mainly due to the Noir layout.
Thank you for sharing 🙏❤️ sometimes i use noir too, i think i am used to both, my fingers just auto adjust after a few rounds
Great reviews. After watching numerous reviews from u, it comes down to this one and mayflash f500 elite. Any recommendations? This is going to be my first stick. Thanks
If u can get this 1, get it, this is top tier
I have this stick for 2 years now. My only complain is it’s sooo heeaaavvvyyy. Aside from that it’s good.
I have this same fight stick with the Tekken 7 version. I really like it. I changed the buttons to sanwa just for a small project and I have a seimitsu 56 joystick coming in the next few days. Again just to see what the change does.
Bro, can you use it on Pc?
@@link-kun5974 Any PlayStation 4 and 5 fightstick connects to pc with minimal fuss in my experience.
Yup
14:55 If you would use this for hours every day, a height adjustable table would be the key so your wrists wouldn't touch the edge of the arcade stick.
Thank you, i usually dont play on that table, only for video demo purpose 🙏❤️
Amazing Arcade Hori!
Thank you 🙏, i agree, hori makes amazing products at a good price 🕹👍❤️
I buy the SCVI edition on sale around 6 months ago and really is a great stick
Thank you for sharing, i love soul calibur but i never had the chance to get in to it 🙏❤️
Waiting for this in the mail. I'm very curious abt the Hayabusa parts and the Noir layout. Got it for a steal price too
Thats amazing, by the way, you cant go wrong with this stick, arslan ash won evo 2019 tekken with this stick, play the video watch his hand if u wanna see it. 👍🕹
That just might be my next purchase 🤔🕹😃🕹
Jeffery Johnson great choice, wait for a sale tho 🙏 thank you for watching
@@JoystickNY well I have a Razer for the one have a Street Fighter cross Tekken and MLG arcade fight stick addition for the 360 tournament edition for PlayStation 3 but I feel like through the legacy connection I might have a little lag input so I'm looking for arcade stick for PlayStation 4 🤔🕹 your video was very helpful and yes I will wait on the sale 😃🕹but I appreciate the review on this arcade stick thank you 👊🔥🕹😎
Jeffery Johnson definitely take your time, those left over sticks are going no where but on sale eventually. Wait for a ps5 stick, its gona be backward compatible with the ps4.
@@JoystickNY that's awesome bro but I'm kind of pissed off I just recently got a PlayStation 4 but if you're saying they're going to be backwards compatible I should just wait 🤔🕹 thank you for informing me 👊🕹😎
Jeffery Johnson you still have a long time to enjoy it tho, and ps4 has a lot of good games too
I got my to day i saw u video many time n I decided for this JoyStick 🕹
Its a good stick, arslan ashe won tekken evo 2019 with this stick 👍🕹
This compatible with pc?just plug n play?ty
Yup, Just plug and play on steam, not sure about other emulators ❤️🙏 if you are planning to buy 1, maybe wait abit, ps5 is around the corner and we may see a lot of sales ❤️🙏
Great review... no lo necesito, pero me lo merezco! haha
thank you
I'm finally getting one of these HRAP N's this year!
I figure it might be one of my last opportunities to get one in NEW condition!
I tried the Hori Fighting Edge but I just did not like that joystick and returned it. The case plastic feels very cheap to me, the cable compartment door arrived popped off like on every HRAP V, and other than the brushed metal faceplate I didn't see the big deal about it; the joystick's not worth it for a "lower latency" you can't see and less functionality than the HRAP V. It's sad that we get charged $50 more for a joystick that lacks Turbo function AND backwards compatibility. You're perfectly free to enjoy the Fighting Edge or any other joystick -- I'm not gonna criticize you for that but I know where I'm spending my money!!!
The Hori pushbuttons as far as I'm concerned are just good as the Sanwa OBSF-30's; very little to choose between them. Both very responsive. The reason the Sanwas are still more convenient is because A) they have more colors available and have transparent ones for custom art button art and B) it's a lot easier to find Sanwas in stock at most parts vendors. There's a very limited supply of Hori Hayabusa pushbuttons out there and they sell out quickly when arcade parts shops can get them.
The base of the HRAP N I know well since I have its ancestor, the first release of this case style, the Hori Soul Calibur V joystick.
I know I'm going to like the HRAP N because A) I got it cheaper than my SC V(!) and B) I'm finally getting a joystick base that has all Hayabusa parts. I so like buying a joystick where I DON'T have to swap out the control lever. I prefer the Hayabusa lever already; it's been my favorite control lever for 7 years now.
It's possible I might buy a Hori Hayabusa optical joystick and install that in the HRAP N. The HRAP N is compatible out of the box with the optical joystick. It has a 6-pin attachment for the optical harness on the PCB. If I like the optical joystick, I'll probably install the spare Hayabusa in my old Diamond VLX. Waste not with arcade parts. If you don't like something, maybe you can trade or sell it online to someone who can use it!
Great information, thank you so much for sharing, i agree with you, i use hori hayabusa buttons mainly, its my go to buttons for now, i still have alot of gamer fingers to test, and then i will see if i willl stick with hayabusa buttons or use gamer fingers
And saving the best for last....Showing footage of the test drive😎
Thank you for watching ❤️🙏
I've owned this stick for a few years and i only have one complaint and its definitely just a personal thing but the buttons hori buttons that come in it feel very sensative which may just be caused by me not holding my fingers far enough off the buttons but this isn't a hard thing to fix, just be warned if you are a bit heavy handed that the buttons offer little resistance but with that your hands definitely don't feel as worn out at the end of long sessions
I feel you, i actually like the stick becuz of that reason, i am a light tapper, and i prefer sensitive buttons ❤️🙏
I would leave the hayabusa buttons just the way are and replace the hayabusa lever with a sanwa JLF lever because the hayabusa lever is oversensitive. And I also recommend an eight-way restrictor gate and a bat-top. Plus, sanwa buttons are oversensitive.
Dustin Nunn i use hayabusa buttons. I love them 👍
Great review! Do you happen to know if the Soulcalibur vi Hori stick is identical to the Rap N? They seem identical but I haven't seen anybody do a comparison! Thanks and great job on the vid! Subscribed!
Correct, the soul calibur hori stick is the same as the hori rap N, they both have hayabusa parts and the same button layouts, thank you for watching 🙏❤️🕹
Same question thank you
Ned Stark your right 👍😊
just bought a week ago and i love it ;)
Great stick 👍🕹 arslan ash win evo with this stick
Oooooo that was some cleaaaan Urien play
Thank you ❤️
Can someone confirm. Does this work on pc steam tekken? Thanks!
Sneaky yes, it will work with pc, so that should work with steam with no problem, thank you for watching 🕹❤️🙏👍
Excellent review!
Thank you🙏❤️
You’ve been my go to person for info on FightStick’s. I just got the MayFlash f500 v2 and having trouble keeping it connected. Is there something I’m doing wrong? Does it need a firmware upgrade that you know of? Also I found one of these online for $110 and really liking this FighStick. I just ordered 2 MagicBoots for the FightSticks I currently have.
Chris Dat -Membaaa?- what do you mean by keeping it connected ? You mean it works and then it disconnects?
JoyStickNY yea I keep having to unplug whichever wire it is at the time. MagicBoots will hopefully fix it or at at least make it somewhat easier to stay connected, i was wondering if there’s some sort of Firmware that may keep it running better overall.
Chris Dat -Membaaa?- try to take a look at their site for a firmware update, so far i havent updated my f300 or f300 elite, they are working okay, but i am on consoles like xbox 360 n ps4
JoyStickNY ok thanks I’m learning new stuff every day. I’m currently changing out the restrictor gate. I’ll check that out as soon as I’m done. If I play Injustice 2 I should change it out for the Octagon one right?
Chris Dat -Membaaa?- i actually never had the chance to play injustice, i do recommend square, once you get used to it, its really good
I just ordered mines yesterday and looking forward to using it. Great review!!
Enjoy friend, 🙏❤️ thank you for watching
did it get delivered to you
if it did how is it
I'm buying this. Simply because it has the Noir layout. Which is better than punk ass Vewlix.
Ps3, Ps4 and actuality PC)
I found just one problem, audio jack 3.5 mm can't hear the sound when I'm on PC. Who knows how it works?
However great stick.
juk pauk good catch 👍 it seems like alot of things doesnt support on pc i heard, the touch pad doesnt do anything on pc too 🕹🙏❤️
@@JoystickNY i guess you're right.
Damn, that hidden button is like a rocket launcher LOL)) So good.
juk pauk lol for real 😂 i actually wanted to say that in the video too, then it slip my mind.
@@JoystickNYhi .. I own the rap 4 and I've managed to set the touch pad to reset when practicing sf v .. tho it was possible to configure it only through steam controller configuration .
Eitan Matok i use that too 👍 the touch pad on my rap4. Very convenient. 🕹
Can anyone tell me if the Rap N is worth getting anymore? I initially wanted to get an Etokki Omni but the shipping is $80 for where I live so I can't afford it
I dont think is worth it anymore, there is a new stick that came out for the hori, looks really nice and the price is very similar, check their website, i think they only have the xbox version so far. What console r u using it for
So I bought this stick not to long ago but I don’t use it because I don’t like square gate an play on octo gate. Don’t know what octo gate to order for the hayabusa since I have never owned a hori stick until now. An recommendations on which one to get?
SkillZ Vs You take a look at the kowal hayabusa octagon gate, its pretty popular. Focus attack website has it too, check amazon or ebay too. Let me know if you find it
JoyStickNY I found it an it’s only 3$!! thanks a lot man. also another great review with this one as well
SkillZ Vs You no problem😊 by the way, what game are you playing ?
JoyStickNY KOF & DbFZ
Ok, i play kof 98-2002, i will be playing kof 15 this year 🙏 we’ll talk later on
Thats a great fighting stick!
Thank you for watching ❤️🙏
Great videos man! What do you think is the best arcadle stick under 200?
I would prob have to give it to the qanba obsidian, that is also the most popular arcade stick in the whole fighting game community, in terms of design; priced spec, over all 👍🕹
The way you were charging them tackles with Urien was OD lmao, the little head tilt to make sure it hit
🤣 natural body gestures lol, i seen some people at the arcade have huge movements with each hit sometimes lol
Hayabusa buttons suck. I've been using my Rap4 for 2 years and I just switched to Sanwa buttons and OMG is my life changed. I will still Buy these Hori sticks because they look good to me but im buying button replacements for any future sticks
Totally understandable, i been using my rap4 as daily driver and hayabusa buttons has become my fav buttons
Howdy.
Would you recommend either this or the HRAP Kai.
cheapest I can get some sticks for is
HRAP 4 Kai - $205AUD (Amazon)
HRAP N - $250AUD (Amazon)
HRAP N in stores - $350 (EB Games)
Qanba Drone- $125 (just for reference) (Amazon)
I play on PC and PS4.
I'm not sure if the extra $50 is worth it for the N.
Sticks are just expensive here it seems.
Also with Sony saying PS4 controllers with work on PS5 I'm happy to get one now.
Thanks. Love your videos.
HRAP N is better i think because it has a better weight to play on lap. Kai is 2.2 kg RAP N is 3 kg. You need this weight for stability on lap.
RAP N has also much more convenient L3 R3 buttons on the front panel. helps in trainign stage to save load state.
NOIR layout on RAP N also gives more space between the joystick and the buttons
so i have no double RAP N is best.
@@okakokakiev787 Thanks :).
I'll go for the HRAP N.
The new Hori alpha stick looks great as well but I think it'll be outside my budget when it comes out
Hori RAP N looks like great value.
Both are great sticks, i prefer the rap4, becuz i like a more flat and longer shape.
And i prefer the vewlix layout, if you notice, all my video are pretty much made with the rap4. Both will get the job done 🙏❤️
Quality video
Zlatko thank you 🙏🕹❤️ appreciate the love
thank for the good review
do you think its comfort to put your hands over it on a table ?
especially it does not have a curved armrest like the hori rap 4
i like the stick but i am not using the stick on my lap, usually over a table like u .
Ahmed Alnajjar i actually have no problem using the stick on the table, but for the video, i was sitting pretty high and the stick is almost at my chest level, but when i play off camera, i usually put the stick at like stomach height, because the motion is better when the stick is much lower than your body. Imagine your self sitting on a sofa, then i put the stick on a chair, so the stick is very low giving me a much better position 😊🕹❤️ playing on my lap doesnt give me a good execution and comfort
i wanted to know if i should buy this Arcade Stick and now i feel educated
Thanks for that
What console and what game do you play?
@@JoystickNY casually Tekken on _PlayStation_ but I'm striving for Guilty Gear Strive. and since PS5s are out of sale it's gonna be _PC_ for that one.
First: Just wow that you response to an comment for a 1-year old video :D
Second: After that video i watched your Pad vs Arcade Stick comparison video and now i wonder if I need an Arcade Stick at all. I do own a Razer Ultimate (but it's starting to fall apart). And when i switched the D-Pad to the D-Panel i actually got combos right in GG Xrd Rev2.... but i love the gold and black design on this Stick
I always recommend a stick, because it makes fighting games easier , and its a diff experience, theres alot of short cuts on stick that is harder to do on a pad, and techniques too, i think over all, a stick is more fun. You start with a qanba drone, professional tekken7 player UYU yuyu uses it for tournaments. You never know, you might be good with stick and not know it. 🙏❤️
Thanks a lot for the advice.
So now since the qanba drone is almost as expensive as the Hori RAP N (shipping to Europe) my choice fell on the Hori.
Your videos helped a lot in not only making this decision but knowing what I'm actually choosing. It arrives on Friday. I'll keep you updated if I'm into Arcade Sticks by then :D.
I got big hands and play a lot of tekken i bought the pro N just yesterday and is my very first arcade litteraly having to learn to walk again however I love it already and i can play longer and can do more precise inputs already
I am happy to hear that, give it some time, you will get more comfortable
With it, btw arslan ash won evo 2019 with this stick 👍🕹
@@JoystickNY yeah loving it it's like learning to walk again but i perform quarter circles with ease make moves like electrics more accessible
Also thanks for the reply 😃
I have the xbox SC6 version of this stick.. I love it but I had to put my own non slip rubber stuff on the back =\
TrojanSalesmen great stick, more padding is always good 👍
I had this stick for two years and I absolutely loved it but I ended up selling it cause..well cause I’m stupid. Now I wanna buy it again and I’m finding this along with every stick is sold out..like what’s going on
Great review! Anyway, do you have any comment on Nacon Daija arcade stick?
Seng Hou Wong i actually want to review that stick too, its on my list, looks really nice. It looks very similar to the panthera imo 🙏❤️👍🕹
@@JoystickNY My 1st arcade stick is Hori Fighting Edge, Now wanna buy another stick for my daughter, any suggestion to choose between Hori RAP N / Nacon Daija / Razer Panthera EVO? Is it Panthera EVO will be better?
Seng Hou Wong out of all 3 sticks you mention, they all share the same shape, the RAP N is a mid range stick, and the panthera and nacon are premium sticks. 140, 199 & 199. The evo has razer’s own mechanical buttons, i tried it before but i dont own one, i have to play with it for sometime to really tell if its better than sanwa or hayabusas. But i think razer is the better choice out of the 3, nacon is still new to the game, i havent had the chance to try the nacon yet, but its on my list. But seems like you have a high budget tho 😂
@@JoystickNY I had purchased Mad Catz SFV fight stick(small one)for my daughter last month, just unboxed & do a few test, then the button just totally "died", so dissapointed on that stick. So I don't consider low-end stick anymore. Maybe will choose Panthera EVO after read your comment, thanks.
Seng Hou Wong cant go wrong with razer sticks, if anything, they have warranty, and razer is basically the biggest gaming equipment company, they should have pretty good quality
informative, would love to see some practice tips for beginners
also fighting games introduction or review would be dope too
Check the master the stick video, its quite long, but i think its helpful for beginners using a stick 🙏
Redye that is actually on my list, i have like 100s of videos on my list, but my full time job takes most of my time
Been watching some of your videos now that I'm getting more into fighting games. I picked up a Qanba Drone as a starter stick. I definitely am loving playing with a stick but definitely looking to upgrade to a higher quality. Might go with this rather than the RAP 4. Great review.
I think the drone is good enough, if u swap out the parts, it will be as good as a expensive stick, people use the drone the tornaments too
Hey JT?? Fellow NYC gamer here. I have a question. My Madcatz TE2+ is literally not operating at all. When I have it plugged in my PS4 for instance, nothing turns on. There are no lights or anything coming on the stick. It's like it's totally dead. What do you think it could be?? I'd like some idea before I outright buy a new board. Thanks for any response. Liking your channel. Keep up the good work.😊
sorry to hear, How long have you had the stick?
Double check the internals and make sure nothing is loose, then try to unplug everything and plug it back in the same place, if it still doesnt turn on,
It may be a dead board, the madcatz TE sticks did have a known issue with their pcb dying, not sure if they ever fixed that issue before going out of business, or some could be a bad batch.
@@JoystickNY Thanks bro. I appreciate the feedback.
SHIN BAKI HANMA anytime, let me know how it goes if u ever fixed it or mod it
@@JoystickNY I'm gonna follow your steps and advice and will definitely keep you posted😊
Great Channel bro.. Which one do you recommend for Dragon Ball FigjterZ?
I think all of them will work for dbfz, internally is pretty much the same parts, if you are not sure, look for sanwa parts inside a stick, which most 100+ sticks have
You made me buy this arcade stick XD
Its an excellent stick, arslan ash won evo 2019 tekken with this stick 🕹👍
Thanks, I bought a Hori RAP N, based on your review! Unfortunately, I decided to mod it a week ago and I stripped the screws holding the back panel. Do you have any idea what size those screws are?
O no, i dont sorry; i would recommend bring it to a local hardware store and see if you can match up the screw.
Hi there , i enjoy your channel and your review very much , great job keep it up ,
Quick question, i want to make the transition form pad to arcade stick and i have 3 in mind , the panthera , the quanba obsidian and this one , use for sfv , ps4 mainly , which one do you recommend?
Thank you for the support 🙏❤️
Looks like your price range is around 150-200.
I think you can go with the qanba obsidian, it is the #1 popular stick in tournaments, #2 prob the razer panthera. And skip this one, they raised the price, i dont think is worth it now.
@@JoystickNY thank you very much for your fast response and your advice !! Looking forward for more content from you and your channel and i wish you the best !
Hay is the hori fighting edge just as good as the hori rap or what's your thoughts on the qanba dragon vs the hori edge ? Dude your videos rock
Thank you, the edge and the rap4 is technically the same parts, just looks different, but the edge has a diff button layout, noir vs vewlix on the rap4.
The qanba dragon has sanwa parts, the edge has hori hayabusa parts,
Dragon is more expensive cuz of design, but both are tournament level sticks
nice video bro !!!
Thank you 🙏🕹
Could you please review the Hori Fighting Edge? I would love to see your opinion on that one!
That one is actually on the list, i want to review alot of sticks, thank you for the support 🙏❤️ my content is abit slow because i work a work full time job, hopefully i can go part time and have more time to create gaming content
Joystick NY I will patiently wait for that video! I really like your content, as long as you keep the quality high like now I think we are fine with 1 vid a week or so :)
Long Le maybe a little longer 😂, i feel like my speed is like 2 video a month, but i really appreciates the love and support, you guys motivate me and keeps me going 🙏❤️
There are so few options for Noir layouts in the stick market... and the one I want I can't find to purchase anywhere. How the hell do you buy an Etokki Omni?
Qanba obsidian just release a noir layout version 2 weeks ago; if you want to check it out, its call the qanba obsidian pearl color
Did my man smell the arcade stick??
Lol 😉 its like that new sneaker smell, new car smell, new leather smell 😂
Is the Noir layout too different ?????
I want the RAP 4 but it doesn’t have headphone jack, this one has headphone jack but im not sure if the Noir layout its going to throw me off.
I find the vewlix more comfortable, the noir is less popular. More sticks on the market uses the vewlix. I usually dont use headphones for fighting games. It works for me 🙏❤️ shooting game i need headphones like cs and warzone
@@JoystickNY
Thanks, yeah Im gonna get the RAP 4 to get ready for KOFXV!!!
I m getting kof 15 and GG strive too
My HORI rap pad won't seem to connect to my ps4, the stick is clearly on when the usb is inserted but my ps4 can't connect it. It used to work when I first got the stick, any possible solutions for a fix or should I go for a repair shop or just get a new one?
Matt Viner rap pad or rap N or rap 4? Whats the exact model name?
I am uploading a stick buying guide tonight, check it out if you do plan to buy a stick soon
@@JoystickNY I think the model name is rap real arcade pro.n Hayabusa. But hey I figured it out, just had to mess around the with settings on the pad! Thanks for the reply tho dude 👍
Matt Viner anytime bud 👍❤️🙏🕹
Is this stick wired?
bassche -kld1 yes, all sticks that are sold right now are wired, i think only if you custom build your stick, you can have wireless, but for fighting game, i would not recommend wireless
JoyStickNY Okay, thank you very much for what you show on your channel on the sticks, It’s really very useful, on this continues as you are the best youtuber in explaining the sticks, Continue like her!👍👍