Vinland Saga Season 2 Looked Beautiful | Animation Breakdown

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  • @arac_modeyt9467
    @arac_modeyt9467 Рік тому +134

    It’s rare you find a show that is capable of changing lives

    • @youngvador6063
      @youngvador6063 Рік тому +4

      True my man, it is capable of changing my life

    • @abkicff8952
      @abkicff8952 Рік тому +5

      fr

    • @Nandomo00
      @Nandomo00 Рік тому +4

      Fr

    • @oe_woo
      @oe_woo Рік тому +3

      no other anime has affected me more than vinland saga, absolute peak masterpiece

    • @muneebhaider104
      @muneebhaider104 Рік тому +2

      Very true, only AOT and Breaking Bad are the show that really made me question my life and action more than Vinland. Phenomenal.

  • @shigeo__
    @shigeo__ Рік тому +35

    Vinland saga season 2 being extremely popular even after people dropping it due lack of fights and violence will always be one of the biggest anime W ever

  • @thomasffrench3639
    @thomasffrench3639 Рік тому +29

    9:13 yeah, that type of comedy seems to work way better in manga than it does anime.

  • @chance2884
    @chance2884 Рік тому +10

    I feel that the reason the first season shows more violence in an unrealistic way and has more action is to push the message further for second season which really helps it feel good as he works toward becoming the true warrior he's trying to be and contrasts really well with the mindless violence of the first season plus he is haunted with all of the horrible things he did from the first season which wasn't portrayed as horrible in his mind at the time or in the season, its just action. He hadn't realized the significance of it all yet.

  • @slaferkamv4466
    @slaferkamv4466 Рік тому +16

    I've been waiting for a Vinland Saga S2 vid. Thanks!

  • @shiroko69
    @shiroko69 Рік тому +22

    I'm glad that MAPPA animated Vinland Saga S2. They even added additional scenes that helped to get a better understanding to the show.

    • @8ooty0
      @8ooty0 Рік тому +5

      same staff as S1

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +4

      ​@@8ooty0almost the same cour staff. But Mappa was involved in some of the things and episodes

    • @8ooty0
      @8ooty0 Рік тому

      @@A1000-b9s yea but it’s better to give credit to the staff better than a studio, Especially mappa. even tho the main director of VS is probably still a mappa staff and thanks to the studio they got the core staff to stay for S2. ik I’m contradicting myself lol.

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +2

      @@8ooty0 lol, yeah he is an in-house staff member of Mappa now. Only the CGI director was different (for the better). But for example 90 percent of the staff for episode 15 was from AOT, it was great that the staff had time to help them

  • @anurag4813
    @anurag4813 Рік тому +23

    An insane recommendation for people who appreciate the craft behind rotoscoped animation. Kenji Iwaisawa's crowdfunded indie film "Ongaku" was made over quite a lot of years and mostly himself doing it all. It's a fucking feast for both animation enthusiasts and film lovers. Also, the whole movie is a damn vibe! You gotta check it out (if you haven't)

  • @userK894
    @userK894 Рік тому +29

    When I first read the manga i didn't care much about the gardar character but man Kobayashi's strong direction actually made me shed some tears for him.......love to see a passionate team like this even though it's a difficult prod for them
    I really hope we get an official announcement soon for S3 there is more greatness for them to adapt

  • @CarNerd7
    @CarNerd7 Рік тому +5

    This season was insanely good, absolutely amazing! Thank you so much for talking about that insane rotoscoped scene in the last part, It absolutely blew me away by how well animated it was!

  • @simplyrohith2163
    @simplyrohith2163 Рік тому +30

    The drawings seriously impressed me. I wish more seinen gems like Usogui, 20th Century Boys and Vagabond get this level of adaptation 🤧

    • @goofyapple19
      @goofyapple19 Рік тому

      Usogui and vagabond will be nightmare for any to studio to adapt and usoguis author has already said he doesn't want anime adaptation of his manga

    • @ungol9
      @ungol9 Рік тому +2

      I feel like especially the wood scene from Arnheids dream gave me an Berserk vibe with the coulors and all. We are really lucky to get such a good adaptation for Vinland Saga.

  • @lebyandsmartiel318
    @lebyandsmartiel318 Рік тому +41

    I think one of my favourite contributions from this season was Yuto Kaneko's cut from Snake Vs. Thorfinn. Having an animator with their roots in Trigger and Gainax on a project like this was awesome. He only did one scene, but that itself was unique and stood out enough. Snake's reverse arm forward strikes at Thorfinn and the "camera" were thrilling to watch.

  • @Dogflamingo
    @Dogflamingo Рік тому +4

    7:44 I think it helped a lot that the confident solider wasn't detailed, you could barely see his face, which probably made it easier to rotoscope. You could also head canon a reason for it story wise, if you wanted to

  • @Ganom-ng1zt
    @Ganom-ng1zt Рік тому +4

    It would be absolutely amazing if they kept adding rotoscope with the large scale battles as suggested here. Odin himself knows the studio would benefit from it further on with the next season, which will feature some incredibly large battle sequences.

  • @Nandomo00
    @Nandomo00 Рік тому +9

    as a manga reader, i really liked this adaptation, the only criticism is in two scenes
    1) in episode 22 in the scene "i have no enemis" Thorfinn should have had a lot more blood on his face, the scene loses some power
    2) I didn't like that they cut the part of Ylva cutting Thorfinn's hair, or at least I remember that they cut a lot of dialogue that I wanted to see, but still it was an incredible experience

  • @JarkeyBacon
    @JarkeyBacon Рік тому +2

    Great video! I completely forgot about the CGI in Season 1 and then remembered that there were no instances I thought it looked bad in season 2. Thanks for the reminder.
    Season 2 may not be "animated" as well, and by that I mean it doesn't have as much movement, but with this limitation it feels like Yabuta and crew were still able to maximise what they got out of it extremely well. Particularly the sfx where they were able to communicate small bits of information with other any motion on screen (Like the chopping logs scene of Einar asking Thorfinn about his past. The strokes of the axes build greatly with the tension).

  • @K-Lowe
    @K-Lowe Рік тому +3

    I currently work on my show called Revival. Shows like Vinland saga and demon slayer show how important compositing and color really is.

  • @Comicboy6758
    @Comicboy6758 Рік тому +4

    Watching stuff with direction this good will always make me miss monogatari honestly. Pray to the gods so Shaft finally adapts orokamonogatari onwards

    • @gavinyeet0322
      @gavinyeet0322 Рік тому

      We can only pray for more mono greatness

  • @xenzzyyx2164
    @xenzzyyx2164 Рік тому +2

    As always great breakdown! I hope to see your next video soon. 🔥

  • @Flamelance_Accendo
    @Flamelance_Accendo Рік тому +6

    Whenever the Luffy vs Kaido fight concludes in the anime, i'd love to see you do an Animation Breakdown on that One Piece fight. As well as the top fights that showed so far (being Zoro vs King, Sanji vs Queen and Big Mom vs Kid/Law.) and speaking about the change from how things looked before going into the Wano arc.

  • @thejosh2116
    @thejosh2116 Рік тому +7

    7:16 where did you get this from??? this looks interesting

  • @zenitsuthunder3946
    @zenitsuthunder3946 Рік тому +7

    we need Arifumi Imai back in s3 cos theres more action🤔 or other good staff

    • @chapri_from_chapra5443
      @chapri_from_chapra5443 Рік тому +3

      Bruh he did like 1 cut lol

    • @8ooty0
      @8ooty0 Рік тому +1

      @@Mikacommentsand that 1 cut is the best action cut of the show.

    • @zenitsuthunder3946
      @zenitsuthunder3946 5 місяців тому +1

      @@8ooty0Facts. But since he is visiting Mappa studio to direct and he key animated the finale fight of AOT which is mappa studio. Hopefully he animates on Vinland Saga ans Jujutsu Kaisen

    • @8ooty0
      @8ooty0 5 місяців тому

      @@zenitsuthunder3946 I feel like it was luck for him to work for mappa. he returned for AOT bcuz he has history with that project and he showed interest for JJK so that’s y he directed an ep.
      the way mappa is rn, I don’t think most animators are looking forward to working for them.
      If anything he’s most likely to work at Wit since he’s affiliated with them.
      but hopefully his interest for JJK is still strong that he returns to do another ep.

  • @markomaksimovic7678
    @markomaksimovic7678 Рік тому +4

    As a manga reader I did notice that they did away with a lot of the goofy humor from the manga and I have to say that I kind of perfer it this way. All in all, the season was amazing and I hope they continue with the same direction in the future.

  • @Madddorash
    @Madddorash Рік тому +1

    I hope we get more anime like this that rely on complex and detailed drawings over your usual simpler designs and smoother animation, it has a charm on it's own and makes everything feel weightier and more serious when done right.

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +1

      Nah. It only fits with series like VS.

    • @Madddorash
      @Madddorash Рік тому

      @@A1000-b9s did you even read the last part? Ofc it only fits series like that, do you think i want this in a cute girls doing cute things anime?
      And dude, would you not hope for more series like Vinland?

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +3

      @@Madddorash no i don't want good still frames with good compositing like new season of bleach and people call it (movie Quality Animation 💀) and call the projects that had shit ton of effort and movements, even in the little moments like CSM be called CGI man. Movements should always be The priority. Also bro every Show is not Limited to art style like VS is. VS detailed art defines the Show. So a question. VS dosen't move that much even in this season (because heck the Character Designs are too detailed to even move, when it needs to move it does), if it didn't had great direction and storyboards, you think it would be as Entertaining as it is? Ofc not. It would be flat with bad direction when just it would be a Single shot with The Characters just mouth flaping

    • @Madddorash
      @Madddorash Рік тому

      @@A1000-b9s i am legit confused as to what you are arguing about, what has bleach (never watched it) and Csm got to do with this? Also any show regardless of how fluid the animation is, would be mediocre if the direction/storyboards/compositing are not good, so i don't see your point here. I've seen "animated" shorts for video games that had a painterly artstyle but had barely any movement, yet were some of the most beautiful things i've ever seen, i wish there was a full on anime like that.
      "Movement should Always be priority" sure unless you don't want it to be, there is a little something called subjectivity in art.
      I'm not saying Vinland's way of doing it is superior, neither fluid animation but simpler drawings, nor limited animation with detailed drawings is inherently better than the other, it all comes down to execution, like i said before "when done right".
      I just want more diversity in anime, it's the same as ppl wanting more well animated character acting instead of only cool looking fight scenes.

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +1

      @@Madddorash fair ig. I used both bleach and CSM as an example. While CSM is a much superior and ambitious project. Bleach is less hate than CSM because of good close ups and good compositing (it had it's episodes where the action Animation was pretty good) because people misunderstand a lot about Animation

  • @guts57x
    @guts57x Рік тому +1

    Wait for season 3

  • @frizen9328
    @frizen9328 Рік тому +2

    Didn't expect to see my comment show up and also realized I wasn't subscribed XD

  • @thomasffrench3639
    @thomasffrench3639 Рік тому +4

    Wait, what is the difference between direction and cinematography? You seem to be pointing out the cinematography, but maybe I’m missing something.

    • @ronel7836
      @ronel7836 Рік тому +4

      Cinematography: Camera angle and movements; and the integration of any special effects. Direction, I think, means something related to how they want the characters to move, idk they are kinda the same thing I believe

    • @I.K.Slash.
      @I.K.Slash. Рік тому +4

      From how I understand it, direction is how the episode plays out, how it flows, from one scene to another, paced in a certain way, and look a certain way (like art, etc)
      And cinematography is how the other guy said it, camera movements and the like

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Рік тому +1

      @@I.K.Slash. yeah cinematography is the camera movements and the shot composition. Direction is kinda like the style and where the director chooses to put emphasis on.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +11

      Cinematography is camera work, but since there isn't a real camera in animation, the credit goes to the storyboards and direction

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Рік тому +1

      @@ProbablyPretentious that’s fair. I was more asking for clarification. If you meant storyboarding, that makes a lot of sense. I still call it cinematography, partially because that’s what I’m more familiar with, and partially because I feel like it’s still kinda cinematography even without a camera. Although a camera is technically used to take a photograph of the drawing, but I guess it depends on where the drawing is done. Cameras get weird when it’s used on computer software.

  • @powerofberzerker9487
    @powerofberzerker9487 Рік тому

    The soldier is playing with Badger in ep 20. Just throwing light strikes and easily dodging...

  • @powerofberzerker9487
    @powerofberzerker9487 Рік тому

    Yeaah, ep 9 looked special.

  • @NoobyBoy81
    @NoobyBoy81 Рік тому +1

    Can you do a video on mushoku tensei

  • @jadariewilliams
    @jadariewilliams Рік тому +1

    I’ve been waiting

  • @dogoo5867
    @dogoo5867 Рік тому

    S3 coming in a million years

  • @rudrakpal_
    @rudrakpal_ Рік тому

    I hope arurian dance or the lamp is low plays in the final ep

  • @avanishchopdar4070
    @avanishchopdar4070 Рік тому

    Hey bro can you pls make video on the animation of blades of the guardian

  • @seya_2
    @seya_2 Рік тому +2

    8:15 tf is that 😭

  • @MrAnimeLover1
    @MrAnimeLover1 Рік тому

    Mappa definitely gave Vinland a better treatment than Hell’s Paradise for sure…

    • @8ooty0
      @8ooty0 Рік тому +1

      well VS started production like back in 2021. they started production at Wit studio. then the whole studio change happened. so Vinland had a decent to good production. they finished animating the last ep like a week before the release, so some production issues caught up to them. now for jigo (hells paradise) its a hella of a disaster, like they barely got ep 1 done before a few weeks of airing. plus they just got done with CSM and most of the staff couldn’t help with jigo cuz they immediately had to go to Jjk. plus they still got another aot final episode which is also giving a lot of priority to, plus other projects that they’re working on. like they barely get episodes done for jigo, people that have worked on the ep have made it clear that it was a tiring as hell. like on the latest ep they had two amazing people working on it, the director and the storyboarder and they couldn’t even deliver cuz of how bad the production is. sorry for the lil rant but it’s crazy to believe that jigo probably has or equal bad production as AOT S4 part 1. well most mappa productions are, even CSM had a bad production too.

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +3

      ​@@8ooty0you mean bad production schedule right? Also mostly these projects don't even effect each other. Unless they are under the same Animation producer

    • @8ooty0
      @8ooty0 Рік тому

      @@A1000-b9s well it well effect when most of the animators needed are circulating from one project to the next. mostly talking about how bad it is for the animators.

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +1

      @@8ooty0 if you Talking like big freelance Animators, yes. They are busy enough with how much high profile Shows are getting made nowdays. But in general, you got to look at the staff and the Animation producer for the Shows. The Animation producer for jigo was also busy with AOT, so AOT was definitely their priority. That's not good, but The main issue was The schedule, The staff was young but talented

  • @deadsoon
    @deadsoon Рік тому

    Oof yeah, side to side with s1 you can tell how dull the colors used to be.

  • @anujsreenivasan5040
    @anujsreenivasan5040 Рік тому +3

    4:13 you could have used berserk 2016 as an example
    I fucking hate that show

    • @randomannoyance
      @randomannoyance Рік тому

      demon slayer, too much camera rotation for no reason

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому

      ​@@randomannoyancenot for no reason tho. They use it for Dynamic fights and when they have Limited episodes

  • @Fitoniashka-c6v
    @Fitoniashka-c6v Рік тому +7

    3 seeson will be disaster in development, because there are 67 manga chapters to adapt(in 2 season it was only 46) and a lot of action fights with a hard choreografy and a dozens of npc's( even bigger than in 1 season). How they gonna make it without help from other's MAPPA stuffs. It's crazy.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Рік тому +4

      Make it longer?

    • @ultrascouter203
      @ultrascouter203 Рік тому +3

      Pretty sure the third arc while having more chapters it actually had a little less pages than the first arc

    • @gavinyeet0322
      @gavinyeet0322 Рік тому +5

      24 episodes will still be fine since there’s so many fights

    • @simplyrohith2163
      @simplyrohith2163 Рік тому +5

      Fights= fast moving pages🥴

    • @Fitoniashka-c6v
      @Fitoniashka-c6v Рік тому

      @@ultrascouter203 thats the problem, because it's not. The chapters in third arc often have 30 pages, while in a second season 20 pages.

  • @debasishroy3495
    @debasishroy3495 Рік тому

    Wao nice video, you really know what to talk about
    👍

  • @chrisrey0018
    @chrisrey0018 Рік тому +5

    It had some aesthetics i didn’t personally like that mappa always has a problem with but it’s amazing

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +9

      The same cour staff 💀

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Рік тому

      @@A1000-b9ssure, but it does look different.

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +11

      @@thomasffrench3639 ofc because The staff look for stuff to improve

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Рік тому

      @@A1000-b9s I’m not judging the quality, I’m just saying it’s a noticeable difference and doesn’t look as vibrant. I have only seen clips, so I don’t know if it is fitting or not.

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +15

      @@thomasffrench3639 it's actually the opposite from season 1. The colors and compositing is more vibrant

  • @sahilarya8673
    @sahilarya8673 Рік тому

    Bro u Indian?

  • @kurokishizx
    @kurokishizx Рік тому +5

    Mappa always got a problem with dynamic camera shots, Wit make the fight scenes look crazy with it

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +27

      MADBOX 💀
      And yeah CSM definitely wasn't a case?

    • @randomannoyance
      @randomannoyance Рік тому +23

      i would rather watch a consistent looking static scene than a dynamic scene with outsourced madbox cgi that doesnt even try to blend with the scene

    • @tater8960
      @tater8960 Рік тому +9

      "mappa" "wit"
      the person who would have storyboarded these cuts is the same person majority of the time for both seasons. he most likely wanted to try a different approach and cut out the exessive reliance on bad madbox cgi that plagued season 1. from the little cg we see in season 2 that looked almost identical to season 1 (except the horses) we can tell madbox really did not improve much which is probably why yabuta didnt want to have the same approach and end up with bad cg plaguing this season as well.

    • @A1000-b9s
      @A1000-b9s Рік тому +3

      @@tater8960 i don't think it was still outsourced to MADBOX

  • @cloudwaves1648
    @cloudwaves1648 Рік тому +1

    I think it looks fairly flat for the most part, but it has some moments that are absolutely incredible.

  • @jeremiahramirez8915
    @jeremiahramirez8915 Рік тому

    Ah yes more realistic as thorfinns isnt on his knees after 100 punches regardless of how he "dodged" them as he got hit or how about the fact that thorfinn somehow parries snakes blade with slave clothing on, not padding or armor cut regular tattered clothes, what about thorgil taking a blade through the hand and seemingly acting like nothing is wrong the next time we see him. Overall this season looked good but the fights were nowhere near realistic. It also helps that mappa doesnt try any camera movement at all static shot with face moving off screen, cut to reaction shot of character being hit or dodging, cut to reaction shot of person reacting to other person getting hit or dodging.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +7

      Every point you made is incorrect or misleading, the 100 punches is literally the way the story is written, I was talking more about the presentation. I think the show made it clear that throfinn used his wooden sandals and kicked the sword, especially with the sound. Thorgil having a high pain tolerance is perfectly natural for a person of that physical stature and upbringing. Non the examples you mentioned are as stupid or unrealistic as anything thorkell did in s1

    • @AnimeKlipsOffical
      @AnimeKlipsOffical 10 місяців тому

      Bro you didn't even understand the show or anything about it shut up.

  • @powerofberzerker9487
    @powerofberzerker9487 Рік тому

    Ep 9 doesn't depict Valhalla... You got that wrong.

  • @sysonic917
    @sysonic917 Рік тому

    I personally found the animation to be rather inconsistent, especially the characters faces kept changing with each angle which really put me off. They also missed a few scenes from the manga such as the reunion with leif and thorfinn and the interaction with ylva cutting thorfinns hair, otherwise, the story was good which made the overall show bearable IMO.

    • @8ooty0
      @8ooty0 Рік тому +4

      there was no reunion with lief and thorfinn in the manga, plus the inconsistencies are bearable. like there was only one bad looking ep which was ep 21 imo. but it doesn’t take away from the direction of the anime which compensates for the lack of animation on some ep. cuz not all ep could look like ep 4, 9, 15, and 17. the scene that was cut with her sister was pretty disappointing but they probably had to cut to have that cool sequence in the end that was anime original to resemble the S1 finale. which the cut scene could still be added to S3

    • @markjosephespinas4174
      @markjosephespinas4174 Рік тому +1

      Lmao