Penuel The Black Pen | In Conversation Mayihlome Tshwete. | ANC, Chris Hani, Malusi Gigaba, Divorce

[@athmaasrai9903]

Just a little thank you for the amazing podcast. Please keep up the good work

[@Dimasi2]

This is great

[@godpenuel]

Jeez... this is crazy. Thank you so much 🙏🏽❤️

[@floydwisanimathebula3306]

Khanimambo Athma Asrai... :)

[@SomeonesTswanaDad]

When Mayihlome said the worst thing to do is marry for love. I differed. But I think he meant affection. Which is that feeling. The butterflies and stuff. But Love. Love is commitment. Love is choice. It’s a jacket you must put on every day. You don’t marry for it. It is instead a verb. An action you must take everyday. This interview got me thinking. Kudos to Black Pen and Mayihlome!

[@lehlagaremogadime7494]

I think what he was trying to emphasize is love only cannot sustain a relationship. The things that affect our lives on almost everyday and how we view them and how decide to tackle them everyday is what sustain a relationship.... Well that's just my opinion.

[@SomeonesTswanaDad]

@@lehlagaremogadime7494 I most definitely agree. There are other practical things we must all consider when choosing a partner. We sometimes dismiss them thinking affection will be enough. When it really isn’t and won’t be.

[@mochaleaves]

​@@lehlagaremogadime7494I disagree with him but agree with your interpretation. love is what helps you tackle differences in decision making and the everyday how. The patience kindness etc.

[@khanyisagura4377]

"I think the worst thing to do is to marry for love". That part! ❤️

[@thembelamosele8295]

Eish when he said that, a guy nog. It resonated with what I always say.
At the end of the day ,love alone is not enough.

[@mashuduthidiela9643]

Mayi is a great thinker. He balances a lot of Penuel’s “alternative” views with a more “neutral” view that gives the viewer a broader perspective on things which is how the audience learns. A podcast with the two of them sharing world views would be phenomenal

[@achumawhati5618]

😂😂😂😂 “alternative” 😭

[@matena843]

Mayi, a deep thinker, sensitive, extremely funny. Absolutely loved watching this.

[@amogelangkgomo2655]

Mayi has this crystal sobriety to his views. He presents very calm and healed, an all-round worked on individual(evidently)! I find him grounding. If there is any published literature from him, I will definitely be getting my hands on it. A beautiful sit-down👏

[@phelomohale4686]

You speak well, what I can only think👍😊

[@t.m4314]

The esthetics of this set is dope the colors and the close up angles too nice, very intermate and engaging well done Pen and the team this is a wining formula when it comes to the look and feel of the show.

[@eliasthibs3890]

Hell, this conversation is so intelligent. I liked the insights on parenting and getting married for love, Mayihlome is spot on... Values such as mutual respect and shared goals are vital in sustaining a relationship... Deep thoughts. Greatness and black excellence displayed

[@sibonisobuthelezi8271]

Good work Pen. Please bring Vusi Thembekwayo.

[@siyandamasala1136]

This is probably one of the most powerful pieces of information on the internet; It's so groundbreaking and refreshing, I am looking forward to part 2. Without sounding tribal but we as a Xhosa tribe do not have such profound speakers in our time except maybe those who are political affiliated and as a 2nd biggest tribe in the country after the Zulu's I always wonder if whether we are ignorant, complacent or maybe just not equipped enough and my conclusion is that we are too segregated as a tribe as opposed to the Zulu's who more often than not show unity and solidarity nonetheless thank you Penuel and your team for unearthing these great minds and bringing them to our attention.

[@TlhakisiM]

You bloody tribalist...we one as Afrikans...what is it with you..you grew up in the village or deep rural in EC🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Livhebe]

IL listen to this conversation for many years to come. A very progressive conversation held by two intellectuals.
I appreciate you gents. I loved it

[@God_is_an_Atheist666]

Half a mill equipment no wonder your shit clean bro👌. And the aesthetics of the show are simple, undistracting and themed to engage the psyche like a blank piece of paper and the conversation is the writing.

[@larrysilinda4150]

Bring mayihlome regularly

[@njaey374]

This show is slowly becoming the benchmark of "Black excellence" and human excellence in general🙌

[@perfectmabaso5756]

I like how Mayihlome answers questions.... Big ups

[@samthingtranskei4829]

He must come back as he suggested he'd love to come back and have more conversations with Pen.
Please Pen bring him back.

[@greatgift8268]

I really agree with this part of Father's day. My daughter's school has got father- daughter movie night and us with no husbands we must look for people to take our kids there. And you have to trust this person as he will spend a night with your daughter

[@yayaxaba2182]

The composure in this man makes you wanna actually listen 😍

[@ncedisamdekazi4886]

This was one of the best conversations ever. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Mayihlome brought all his emotional intelligence on the table.
Thank you for inviting him Penuel.

[@missnobodie2503]

This was a great conversation. I appreciate These gentlemen touching on the topics they touched on especially on intentional parenting and black parenting.

[@Beatbanguni]

I appreciate this podcast,soon i will be a paying member ✊

[@oaitsentlhore1757]

*Your parents success is not your success* I love this phrase

[@mrbrooks56]

This is clean, I are now a follower and will join , thanks to Mac G pushing us here

[@jamestimana4801]

Very powerful and educating convo, I like the mindset of Mayihlome.

[@tokolohomokoena7882]

Phenomenal conversation. I felt like i was receiving game from OG’s. Seeing you men armour-down to dissect and engage is extremely refreshing and has consequently unearthed a lot of wisdom and knowledge. Thank you, Men.
P.S
These are the sort of conversations we would have if you stayed for drinks after touch , Pen 🌚🌚

[@godpenuel]

😂😂😂 Thank you for supporting, TK! I should definitely make an effort.

[@tholyndlovu9912]

Great conversation, young aspiring Philosophers, indeed our country has capable leaders. Congratulations Penuel for the Podcast, your contributions are impactful 👏👏👏💪❤️

[@thandekaduduziletwala3055]

I love this! I wish I could have everyone and everyone watch it!!!

[@obakengneo5220]

Penuel, keep this kind of content going. We need these OG conversations

[@geek.6743]

Thanks Pen - great conversation with Mayihlome - we appreciate your content all the time...🌿🥀🌲🌴🍍🍉🍇

[@glenmalesa8902]

It's amazing how much you can learn on these podcasts. Mayihlome is a very smart fella 👌 . I've learn a lot.

[@amogelangkgomo2655]

A balanced gent this one🙂

[@lerato8157]

Waze wakhula Mayi. An insightful conversation! Re. school comment, we also noticed that our local school has done away with mother/father's day. Those are now referred to as "family day" or "special person(s) day". Key progressive changes brought upon by visionaries. 🙂 To intentional parenting and living.

[@ericricky8460]

This is by far the cleanest podcast in the continent

[@sizwevuyo8445]

Mac G, is right the picture quality of this Podcast is way better than the quality of Podcast and Chill😅

[@kaizerpursuits7086]

He should have asked Robert for a 40k 'start-up' or capital injection instead he asked him if his parents named him Bob.😅😅

[@kholofelolebepe9637]

They using 4k cameras

[@monwabisiqutu4383]

I even saw that shoulder angle Sol was talking about...the background and the table have a serious impact

[@ayandankundla7850]

Mayi Oozes confidence 👏🏻🤝 very insightful. Great interview ever 🎉🤝

[@godmodeforexmasters148]

Is platforms like this that we can utilize to move this country forward, Not celebrity gossips.

[@gomolemomanche257]

Important conversation, so delicious, I could eat it up! Thank you brothers 🤌🏽

[@babazi]

It may have looked like MacG is bashing *Uncle Ruckus* but that has created attention/interest to this channel. I had to come here for the first time to preview the 8K picture :)

[@highandmightyqueen79]

I always enjoy these conversation and your guest Pen hopefully we can get 2 or 3 episodes a week.

[@NkosinathiMasango012]

Very good conversation. It felt light, like guys just chilling and not an intense discussion. I fully agree with Mayihlome's view on Politics not being a family business, someone cannot lead simply because their parent led.

[@gracesitsha7906]

Oh my goodness, Wow.Beautiful conversation between intelligent people.Wow.Mayihlome.Does not criticise anyone.I love the sensitivity ❤

[@abtshoni]

I love the "African way" conversation, it shed some new light on the notion. Thank you for this conversation.

[@wendymapholo7313]

The absent father issue is sensitive and it played a big role in my life. Grew up with so much hate for men and my relationships never lasted.
I broke down seeing a child brought to our practice for a dental procedure and the dad was there reassured the girl that she is brave and he was proud of her.
I was torn apart, to date I do not have a baby.
I want my baby to expirience love from present parents.

[@ayandankundla7850]

🤗🤗🤗🤗🥺🥺🥺

[@godpenuel]

❤️💔

[@palesamogorosi8939]

Have you tried attending therapy? You need to see a professional and heal before engaging in romantic relationships because your childhood traumas will insist on haunting you and causing ripple effects in your life. You may have suffered from the fatherless daughter syndrome (colloquially referred to as daddy issues). It's not your fault whatsoever and you shouldn't feel ashamed, which is why you need to see someone. I will also add that I am glad you have a good sense of self-awareness which is a good start to resolving your past. I wonder if you grew up experiencing mental health issues that are actually probable and justified.
This is a very sensitive matter and I am speaking from a position of the same experience.
I wish you grace.
Please do not be so hard on yourself 😊

[@busisiwefukweni]

Sending love ❤️

[@Moddulus_Prime]

Refreshing conversation gentlemen, I'm glad African men can have an honest exchange about their ideas & beliefs.

[@akosuamvotyo1655]

two smart black men🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@ThokoTwala]

Please have Shaka Sisulu on your show.

[@kaizerpursuits7086]

Is Shaka still around?
O skaars on the socials.

[@ayandamabombo8824]

There's more to people than naratives & media. Great conversation and I like the fact that we understand that not all "black" people should be in politics to be excellent.

[@globeviewpoint9075]

I enjoyed this convo particularly the Co parenting part because im going through similar issues.

[@mbobileo933]

Mayihlome is strong and also very profound on his views he is factual, Penuel need to do his research the undertone of Penuel is Patriachal and the disclaimer he is making for loving and respecting black women is not here or there. Can really be possible true that all the women he impreganted were wrong and he was right? Thank you Mayihlome for schooling Penuel of Fatherhood and Parenting .

[@mogalematsose]

An interesting and important conversation gents especially on education and culture. We really need to create a new African

[@leratolitlhakanyane8445]

Remember Touch Rugby Sundays with these gents. Great interview 👌

[@whereiszulu]

Penuel has deep network dammit

[@Beatbanguni]

Damn im like were does he dig this great minds😅🔥

[@siyandarasi8494]

Very thoughtful guy this guy is 🙌🤝

[@lucymacks2256]

I didn't anticipate teary points.....Jo!!!!!! #ThankYou

[@tebogomoema9024]

Mayihlome has so much depth

[@MiaN3420]

I think it's admirable to be a revolutionary, but allow your children to grow up to be able to live in a new & different world.

[@pinealgland668]

Very insightful conversation, gents. Thank you!

[@mweziqoma2096]

This is a great interview to watch and listen to. Pen always takes out the best from his guests, he is a genius. Then juxtapose that with this great orator, Mayihlome. Wonderful. I will wait for part 2.

[@siphonkabinde7115]

Great dialogue, refreshing and clarity in thought 👌🏾. Pls try to organise Sizwe, Dr Mpofu

[@thabohlalele3125]

Big ups on the rapidly growing subscriber base..it shows people are hungry for informative content yol produce

[@Watsha_The_A]

Damn guys am literally laughing with you guys on them side jokes!! Shout out am not even half-way but am already satisfied but still intrigued to watch some more!💥

[@lungipinda9961]

Entirely captivating. Great conversation guys👍

[@sicelomtabane6480]

ANC no where to go 🤝I like that 🤝

[@patricknkosi5412]

Wow.. this conversation is awsome, this what men should constantly do, not about bragging about what you have, but you could contribute to the society. I like these young, i can't wait for the 2nd round, you could even make it a round table and gather those young men Pen

[@ndofiretv]

This was nice. Very insightful 👏. Thanks Pen.

[@_Monde_]

This podcast is a gift that keeps on giving. Loved this interview. We have great black men living in our midst. I have no doubt that young minds watching are being shaped to epitomise black excellence. 💛👏

[@tiisetsomalunga2457]

Great interview

[@KhauheloPhatela-jn5ix]

Unpacking the traumas of being a conquered people.There are no more true africans only Black Englishmen. This convo is very eye opening

[@lullo9852]

Thanks

[@godpenuel]

Wishing you love and blessings, Lullo ❤️

[@lebohangtekela5908]

Great conversation. i would like to differ a bit with Mayihlome. on the part of presence, a lot of black men are blocked out of their children's lives. Pen asks a valid question when he asks if Mayihlome is referring to our fathers or us. Modern black men want to be in their children's lives, we just have so many sisters giving conditions, if you dare differ with what she deems a great father/parent then you are out in the cold when it comes to your kids. Again Pen is correct when he says, successful co-parenting situations are those where the man complies with the rules set by the mother, otherwise, forget it. As a disclaimer, i have to mention that i got massive respect to Mayi, he is such a great man.

[@palesamogorosi8939]

This is arguable. Are the "conditions" necessarily in bad faith? Sometimes, one parent may simply only want what is best for their child's life which could be in disagreement with the other parent. I think it depends. Modern black men are actually improving (slowly but surely) the shortcomings of their forefathers because as society is evolving, humans are becoming more progressive and understand how important intentional and gentle parenting is. We are learning to be more affectionate, compassionate, attentive, and patient. We are understanding that emotional presence is needed greatly for the sake of stable mental health. A hug, a pat on the shoulder, a kiss on the cheek, asking how someone's day was, showing up, being vulnerable and so much more.
Yes, black men may be lagging behind as compared to men of other races and that is due to a myriad of reasons, but as much as we acknowledge this reality, I have come across a lot of men who are getting their ducks in a row. It's not happening as fast as we would want it to happen, but I am hopeful we can realize a change one day. We need the present and level-headed fathers that we have to be role models for other men so that they have people to look up to and not end up being ushered into the dark by the many lost souls in this world.
Penuel refers to female privilege and I am not sure about that. His examples of what kind of ideals women supposedly expect from men are in themselves morally justified and I think a man or woman is inclined to agree with them. He mentioned a woman not wanting their child to wave a gun or watch porn? Is that a wrong thing to ask for? If a man would expect the same, how would this be any different? In some cases, both parents could be of the same view. I am of the opinion that if something has merit, then both parties should be able to reach an understanding of co-parenting harmoniously as the caregivers of the children. It goes down to also sharing the same values and having mutual respect, which makes this process less challenging and less selfish. If not, you will encounter conflicts. I also think if you feel unfairly treated in consideration, you should then seek legal assistance for a less biased resolution.
The other discussion would be people having children that they are not prepared to take care of and this is a serious issue in the black community. We often shoot ourselves in the foot.
Apologies for rambling.

[@bassiegola]

In SA in particular-where he is and I am from,there aren’t many dads who are blocked to see their kids.

[@nthabisenglerato496]

This show really needs a slot on our TV 🔥 episode

[@ayandankundla7850]

Strongly supported 🤝

[@tebogo81]

@@ayandankundla7850 COMING SOON

[@ratibamohale]

Mayihlome is very smart. A sound guy

[@duduzilembhele8576]

Another amazing, and attention gripping episode 👏 . I love the range of the topics covered in these conversations.

[@siphomakeleni1649]

Totally agree on the volatility of love part

[@mrmanq9517]

Mayihlome = intellect 😎...great insightful conversation

[@ThokoTwala]

Great interview 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@ikhekhelethuourcake412]

Profound, time well spent

[@buyisiwembatha6698]

Such a refreshing conversation 💯

[@PrinceLekota]

This should be interesting!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Siyambonga_Mbasane]

Yho mfana this is an excellent interview. Bravo to you god Penuel. MacG wants to be a gatekeeper and is threatened by other people entering the podcast space but you need to shut down the noise and put a mental block to him.

[@thando_t1723]

Just a chiller here to spectate😭

[@aphelele_]

Instead of hating on Penuel's progress, Mac should just hire a creative interior designer so that Podcast and Chill could have a better looking studio other than the yellow "Puzi Juice" aesthetic. He already has a good quality videos. Penuel just came with a dope set up and I honestly don't think he should be competitive while he's already at the top and paving a way for African podcasts. That's very short-sighted for a "genius". Also, he shouldn't claim that Black Pen is captured just because he's a non-racialist and associated with Rob Hersov, everyone is different.

[@bonanimgedesi1376]

💯🥇you couldn’t have said it better

[@yolisamsimango2708]

iIm loving Mayihlome's views on single motherhood and parenting boy children. His empathy towards us is heartwarming. He understands our struggle. Also his view is so logical especially where he categorically states we are very capable of raising well-balanced young men. Enkosi

[@johannstrauss3779]

Love is relative Eros/spouse love must always be conditional with limits. Mutual trust, respect, communication and religion/culture are some of the conditions, universal and timeless

[@palesamogorosi8939]

This is very true

[@RJPups007]

"Black people has the responsibilty to be great" M Tshwete.

[@startswithmesinawekee7668]

This show is too good .. ✌

[@solomonmthombeni5061]

Great conversation.

[@damilendagane4788]

Respect to Mayi and The Black Pen

[@mbusowanda6027]

This guy being interviewed is star struck by penuels intelligence 😅😂

[@sellomagubane3959]

Great conversation 👍

[@thembelamosele8295]

Enjoyed the show. What a humble guy uMayhlome. Nomamakhe onobubele n carefree.
Eish what a sad part of their lives no Zizo . Loved them together.❤❤

[@thandisizwetyler8954]

Great minds, enkosi madoda.

[@tebogomaphefomodiba4232]

Also those stats in high school "by show of hands how many of you have a father, mother, no parents" That was cruel and mean. We found out we had orphan classmates who would have not wanted to divulge that information. Even me I didn't want the whole class to know that my father was alive but absent.

[@mandisandongeni1743]

Great conversation

[@muzislingshots1413]

I'm here to look how clean this production is

[@phiwebatala7621]

Same here 🤣🤣🤣

[@buyisiwewendytembe4841]

Intellectuals, this conversation is very interesting..

[@khumbuzacele2362]

What an excellent dialogue 👏🏿🫶🏾

[@mrmsports2419]

Once u get past his laid back personality, Mayihlome is a wise man!

[@andilentuli8261]

Dope conversation 🔥🔥

[@Mahleamantungwa0212]

I like how Mayihlome put its about former comrades leaving the ANC. Trevor is not the only comrade that left but AB Xuma and John Dube died and they were no longer members of ANC

[@mkhululinkomo1413]

Yoooh this 1 i havee beeeeeeeen waiting for.