Gareth's Guests: Penuel The Black Pen

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  • Опубліковано 23 жов 2023
  • Gareth Cliff sits down with Penuel The Black Pen - an internet personality known for wild, controversial opinions that often go against the grain of society. Together they tackle the upcoming elections that will decide the fate of millions across South Africa. Gareth does a deep dive into Penuel’s own religious concept 'Penuelism', and the idea of man-made beliefs.

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  • @godpenuel
    @godpenuel 9 місяців тому +149

    Shoutout to Gareth Cliff, Ryan James and the rest of the team at Cliff Central. I love and admire you guys very much.
    Truly honoured to be invited AGAIN. It is appreciated and I'm hoping we can shift minds in SA and beyond.
    Let's keep growing alternative, LESS CENSORED & LESS BIASED platforms for education & news. 🙏🏽❤️

    • @Flows_Playlist
      @Flows_Playlist 9 місяців тому +3

      you legend🙌🔥🔥

    • @touchtbo
      @touchtbo 9 місяців тому

      So was PornHub the first site you tested in China? 😁😁

    • @moonchild7033
      @moonchild7033 8 місяців тому +4

      Good interview - keep doing the good work to improve this country.

    • @leondupreez930
      @leondupreez930 8 місяців тому +2

      You should read Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein regarding your idea of having people qualify to vote.

    • @kultureking9177
      @kultureking9177 8 місяців тому +1

      I do not agree with the voter system you’re suggesting. Many black business owners in South Africa are with the ANC because of the tenders. They vote for ANC to keep that business going. Instead of restricting people, why not just educate the people and allow them to vote according to their conscious. It seems like your intentions for voting should result in what you, personally, feel like is right.

  • @christinemarnewick2847
    @christinemarnewick2847 9 місяців тому +39

    I love Gareth Cliffs wide based knowledge of various subjects. I love that he laughs.

  • @Kampamba
    @Kampamba 9 місяців тому +13

    I can respect Peneul’s refusal to speak on the issues in the Middle East. It is a very galvanising topic and he is not ready to risk it.

  • @Mk22022
    @Mk22022 9 місяців тому +56

    Best guest on the show this year... Two of the best voices in SA media today...

    • @sebastianpillay8113
      @sebastianpillay8113 8 місяців тому

      U joining the wrong podcast join podcast and chill

    • @sibongisenikhumalo8198
      @sibongisenikhumalo8198 8 місяців тому +1

      The best of what kahle kahle?

    • @skgsinc1833
      @skgsinc1833 8 місяців тому

      ​​@@sebastianpillay8113a clown show that only talks about s*x

    • @reallyon.m
      @reallyon.m 8 місяців тому

      @@sibongisenikhumalo8198Perspective.

  • @frythinker3710
    @frythinker3710 9 місяців тому +27

    Penuel is a breath of fresh air. I always find him free to speak his mind, and I have always been envy of that. Today was the first time I hear him being restricted to Express his views (on Jews).
    Other than that, he is still the guy that has an ability to activate even the idle minds.

  • @mthokozisimyende787
    @mthokozisimyende787 9 місяців тому +24

    I admire Gareth's profound and diverse knowledge across a range of subjects.

  • @geek.6743
    @geek.6743 8 місяців тому +8

    Best interview Gareth - our one & only fearless genius - the Black Pen!! 🦓🍊🌵🌲🌴

  • @thurancecameron
    @thurancecameron 9 місяців тому +20

    Garreth vs Peneul All day every day. The meeting of the minds😅.loved the interaction

  • @EvrythngVarsity
    @EvrythngVarsity 9 місяців тому +13

    We need part 2 asap 🎉❤

  • @everest-view5841
    @everest-view5841 9 місяців тому +9

    Bring him back Gareth we want to hear him on a Random Friday

  • @SangoMphetshwa
    @SangoMphetshwa 9 місяців тому +9

    This is why I love your show so much that I just wake up @5 in the morning

  • @liamsnyman5579
    @liamsnyman5579 9 місяців тому +13

    First time hearing Penuel. I appreciate the breadth of thought and exploration of ideas from both speakers. Good to know there are still public figures who have a vested interest in actually finding ways to make things collectively better. Whether you agree or not, its a good reminder that we can all benefit from a little introspection and consideration, of ourselves and others.

  • @anna-marienel1573
    @anna-marienel1573 9 місяців тому +7

    Inligting comes to mind. Can always count on this channel to bring the A game.

  • @sikander_kalla
    @sikander_kalla 9 місяців тому +9

    Let's collaborate in making alternative media more accessible and scale up in South Africa 🇿🇦

  • @christinemarnewick2847
    @christinemarnewick2847 9 місяців тому +11

    I watch Penuel podcast regularly. Enjoy his topics of discussion and some of his guests. Different perspectives.

  • @KT23-do8zh
    @KT23-do8zh 9 місяців тому +6

    Took me about the same time Gareth...including the anger of being lied to maybe for 4 years of that period😅( in my adult years)

  • @gundomasutha6271
    @gundomasutha6271 8 місяців тому +3

    The interview was too short, we need part 2 please Mr cliff

  • @kaizenkhanya
    @kaizenkhanya 9 місяців тому +12

    Penuel is a visionary. What a mind!

    • @grantbradshaw7907
      @grantbradshaw7907 9 місяців тому +1

      You right he is a visionary and very intelligent

  • @ntuthukodlamini6323
    @ntuthukodlamini6323 9 місяців тому +5

    Honestly would have enjoyed the conversation Gareth and Penuel had post this interview. Great episode G, great guest as well.

  • @chrisMchon
    @chrisMchon 8 місяців тому +6

    Man i love these 2 guys..very smart nice dialogue between two

  • @bulelanindhlazulwana9311
    @bulelanindhlazulwana9311 9 місяців тому +5

    Guys thank you so much to the both of you 😊am now even more corrupt 😅lack of better words what a refreshing conversation we are tired of the status quo’s 😅keep up gents this whole discussion was for the strong 💪.

  • @sizananimleya8668
    @sizananimleya8668 9 місяців тому +10

    Penuel The Black Pen! If only people can be interrogating to life issues like Penuel does, maybe just maybe we would get somewhere better. We don’t question things enough.

  • @ArKaneLifestyle
    @ArKaneLifestyle 9 місяців тому +5

    Fantastic conversation with two of the best conversationalists in my opinion.

  • @Niccidasilva
    @Niccidasilva 8 місяців тому +8

    Penuel/Peniel = face of God.
    I really like this guy's agenda..I'm literally taking my time to watch his stuff and I think we should all sit with books and pens to make notes . I haven't been watching or following him for long but the impact Penuel has made in my life and my house is indescribable. Thank you for being a beacon of hope. I really feel liberated after watching an episode every day. Free knowledge and wisdom right in front of us, Geez thank you so much. We all need Peneul/God in our lives! 😊😂

    • @godpenuel
      @godpenuel 8 місяців тому

      Love and blessings, Nicci 🙏🏽❤️

  • @fikels
    @fikels 8 місяців тому +5

    Great discussion on so many levels. May both of these guys go from strength to strength. Speaking frankly, speaking their truth, unafraid and with good intentions.

  • @nyanakaluvo5604
    @nyanakaluvo5604 8 місяців тому +3

    Both you guys are legendary are valued to this country 💪🏾👏🏾

  • @user-fi5sr5hx3y
    @user-fi5sr5hx3y 9 місяців тому +8

    Gareth.
    Love this..... I believe we all love this interaction.....

    • @SangoMphetshwa
      @SangoMphetshwa 9 місяців тому

      So much that even my mind is opened

  • @atangmcdonald8300
    @atangmcdonald8300 9 місяців тому +5

    We need you on the Penuel Show 🙌🏾 dope conversation

  • @lorellmothiba444
    @lorellmothiba444 9 місяців тому +8

    This ought to be a robust exchange of ideas from these 2! ❤ 🎙

  • @ethneronnie1857
    @ethneronnie1857 9 місяців тому +4

    Loved the discussions with your guest Penuel, so nice to listen to honesty.

  • @aadilahisaac217
    @aadilahisaac217 8 місяців тому +2

    Intresting discussion gents... We need a Part2

  • @aleko_
    @aleko_ 8 місяців тому +2

    Glued to this from beginning to the end! @Gareth please bring the Pen back again, You gents gel well!

  • @beyondtshenolo
    @beyondtshenolo 9 місяців тому +5

    Such purposeful conversions guys. And I enjoy your contrasting views, but in a healthy and constructive way. Pen should come back and u guys should tackle specific topics. Thoroughly enjoyed this.

  • @thopenena5923
    @thopenena5923 8 місяців тому +2

    Gareth Cliff and Penuel! I liked listening to both of you… do have another convo soon please

  • @ndumisoqolintaba8224
    @ndumisoqolintaba8224 9 місяців тому +2

    Great minds together

  • @MightyBaja
    @MightyBaja 9 місяців тому +2

    Gareth, thank you for improving the visuals

  • @paulmemela7236
    @paulmemela7236 9 місяців тому +2

    Awesome engagement gents. Great insights 🔥 🔥

  • @mohautlali8865
    @mohautlali8865 9 місяців тому +1

    Incredible meeting of minds.

  • @ShaunJulies
    @ShaunJulies 9 місяців тому +3

    Great conversation guys.

  • @SaintDC42
    @SaintDC42 9 місяців тому +4

    What a great show; whether one agrees or not. It’s really power content! Thanks Gareth!

  • @ruudbwoy404
    @ruudbwoy404 2 місяці тому

    Great episode, gentlemen✊🏾👑👑

  • @kwanelevilakati
    @kwanelevilakati 8 місяців тому +2

    Great conversation!!

  • @RiazValgee
    @RiazValgee 9 місяців тому +1

    The message is we got to brake the mold. ❤💯

  • @phumlanindlovu5653
    @phumlanindlovu5653 8 місяців тому +2

    🙂✌🏾 this was beautiful to listen to

  • @MelloBelloPhotoStudio
    @MelloBelloPhotoStudio 9 місяців тому +2

    These are very controversial and it is so interesting to see them doing content together

  • @isaaccpt6643
    @isaaccpt6643 9 місяців тому

    Such a great conversation! Many things were spoken about but I'll comment a topic that I'm really passionate about: Cape Independence... Firstly for those that think its not financially viable i have this to say about it: how much expats are there in first first countries that would love to return back to SA? If the Cape becomes independent so much of them will return bringing with them in demand skills and basically direct foreign investment.
    Theres so much people in SA that would like to see what decolonization looks like when truly expressing the need to make Southern African according to the people living there such as an independent cape or even and independent KZN not living in boarders that England draw up for us.
    As i said above truly a great conversation 😊

  • @davidmokgohloa8735
    @davidmokgohloa8735 8 місяців тому

    Great Show Guys , Listened to Gareth Cliff from the days at 5 FM every Morning from start of high school until that fateful Morning he announced it his last show 🤣🤣Till this day i still cannot forget

  • @simonsiluma3010
    @simonsiluma3010 8 місяців тому +5

    @Panuel i feel like you held back your deepest views on this one..

  • @CAROS_FITNESS
    @CAROS_FITNESS 8 місяців тому

    This was amazing 👏👏👏👏👏🤝

  • @jacquescalitz3707
    @jacquescalitz3707 9 місяців тому +3

    Now this was refreshing

  • @thabomofokeng4081
    @thabomofokeng4081 9 місяців тому +9

    One of the best articulations of Penuel and his religion is on his episode on Podcast and Chill, before then, I had a different idea of what he meant, I enjoy his content because it's provocative, because it's not your run of the mill opinion. Listen to understand, not react.

  • @JostleMedia
    @JostleMedia 8 місяців тому +2

    Thanks, Gareth you are the best enjoyed this podcast and to Panuel thanks for sharing your belief. Gareth you must invite McG of Podcast and Chill.

  • @godpenuel
    @godpenuel 9 місяців тому +32

    IF YOU'RE NOT POLITICALLY LITERATE... PLEASE DO NOT VOTE!!!!
    - What is your ward number?
    - Who is your ward councillor?
    - Who is your mayor?
    - Who is your premier?
    - Name most of the Ministers
    - Who is the President & Deputy President?
    - What is a green paper & a white paper?
    - Where is your local Magistrate?
    - Where is the High Court? Supreme Court of Appeal? Constitutional Court?
    - What is the Johannesburg Stock Exchange?
    - What are the major institutions that run this country, from a business perspective? SOEs & private businesses.
    - Who runs the biggest media platforms?
    - What is South Africa's relationship with the biggest economies on earth?
    - What is South Africa's relationship with the rest of Africa, Europe, the Americas & Asia?
    - The difference between Capitalism, Socialism & Communism?
    - Democracy vs a Monarch vs a Religious State vs Other Models?
    - What is British Colonialism & Apartheid?
    ...etc.
    If you cannot answer most of these questions... you should not be allowed to vote. YOU ARE A DANGEROUS LIABILITY AND YOU'RE DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY.

    • @Red_Spear
      @Red_Spear 9 місяців тому +3

      The majority of the people who will vote unfortunately do not have the internet to see this post.

    • @Mushlanga
      @Mushlanga 8 місяців тому +1

      That is an absolutely ridiculous idea, u do not solve a problem by creating another one. Everyone has the right to vote. It is up to the government, pressure groups and even content creators like yourself to make people understand what voting is all about. What is being taught in schools, shouldn't politics and voting be a compulsory subject? Podcasters create hours of content talking about nonsense but then complain about the so called uneducated masses. Penuel be part of the solution, don't come with plans to create bigger problems.

    • @Mushlanga
      @Mushlanga 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Red_Spearcorrect.These are the problems that need to be fixed

    • @tsososkele3355
      @tsososkele3355 8 місяців тому

      This is borderline dictatorship, especially the suggestion that people shouldn’t vote if they don’t see the world according to you & to bash uneducated people is the worst kind of criticism given the effects of apartheid that still coexist with us. I do agree however that the first 6 points should be basic knowledge, but that doesn’t take away the basic freedoms that were fought for which is the right to vote. You have access to resource in a form of your podcast, I’m pretty sure you can get sponsorships to go on a national tour to educate people about such. Use your platform to educate the masses about these points not to only grandstand stating the obvious. Anyone and everyone can bash government to gain popularity and that is cheap, hence in this interview Gareth showed his maturity over you. You still need some maturing to do my brother, I’m one of those will be patiently observing your growth.

  • @patrickmaduna7714
    @patrickmaduna7714 8 місяців тому

    Well done Gareth. Some good questions for Penuel.

  • @princezulu8062
    @princezulu8062 8 місяців тому +1

    Gareth is a great interviewer. Penuel is intelligent. He dealt with Gareth very well.

  • @manoko8585
    @manoko8585 9 місяців тому +1

    Powerful content here 📍

  • @moonchild7033
    @moonchild7033 9 місяців тому +2

    Excellent interview guys! Really honest & open, enjoyed it thoroughly!

    • @Itsnothing389
      @Itsnothing389 9 місяців тому

      @moonchild why isn't big daddy liberty posting anymore on youtube?

    • @moonchild7033
      @moonchild7033 8 місяців тому

      @@Itsnothing389 Morning - that is a very good question. I've been wondering the exact same thing & haven't heard anything. Maybe he's on the road travelling, but it would be good to hear from him.

    • @Itsnothing389
      @Itsnothing389 8 місяців тому +1

      @@moonchild7033 I hope his okay thou...

    • @moonchild7033
      @moonchild7033 8 місяців тому

      @@Itsnothing389 Same, but not sure how to find out. I'm a moderator, but not a personal friend.

  • @NakediSerune
    @NakediSerune 3 місяці тому +1

    Penuel my favorite mind blower 😮

  • @djgugura854
    @djgugura854 8 місяців тому +1

    Part 2 please

  • @someoneelse1895
    @someoneelse1895 7 місяців тому +1

    As an EFF member these are the actual conversations we like having with black AND white people

  • @RiazValgee
    @RiazValgee 9 місяців тому +1

    Feels like the beginning of an awaking. #SpiritualAwakening

  • @michaelmbizane6014
    @michaelmbizane6014 9 місяців тому +1

    We give Thanks 💧 🥋🔦👑

  • @sbudaraw426
    @sbudaraw426 9 місяців тому +3

    Penuel you're spot on 🏆

  • @user-gp7mt5cv7c
    @user-gp7mt5cv7c 8 місяців тому

    i love this channel

  • @labourlawwithali
    @labourlawwithali 7 місяців тому

    This is gold content.

  • @Mank_Mindset
    @Mank_Mindset 8 місяців тому +1

    If you have this Guy, you have the Guy, proper Guy💯🔥

  • @amanithiongowanyoike4302
    @amanithiongowanyoike4302 8 місяців тому +3

    I completely agree with the fact that not everyone should vote. Especially if they people don't care enough to due diligence on who they're voting for, and dont completely understand what is required for an efficient well functioning country

  • @starlord481
    @starlord481 8 місяців тому +1

    I listen usually on Amazon podcasts to the thia show but it's much more engaging doing it on you tube live

  • @sithanakase7642
    @sithanakase7642 8 місяців тому +1

    I love this 😎

  • @davidhayes9893
    @davidhayes9893 6 місяців тому +2

    I agrea so much, grant recipients should work for their money through social work

  • @spy2sa54
    @spy2sa54 9 місяців тому +5

    Gareth Cliff please bring Julius Malema to your show 😢

    • @NtokozoPearlKhaula-et3vi
      @NtokozoPearlKhaula-et3vi 9 місяців тому +2

      Only people who want to put South Africa 🇿🇦 to rainbow nation not angry people no thanks.We want intelligent peace, learn for people who really cares about our country.
      Malema is not for South Africa 🇿🇦 he is for Africa we are still at home 😂.

  • @onkewakaba8274
    @onkewakaba8274 8 місяців тому

    The Admiration I have for Gareth, Penuel, Dj Sbu, Trevor, Vusi,

  • @MaryGloriaMolema
    @MaryGloriaMolema 9 місяців тому +2

    This was refreshing to watch❤

  • @mbusowanda6027
    @mbusowanda6027 9 місяців тому +3

    Have him everyday!!!!

  • @neomonese3565
    @neomonese3565 9 місяців тому +1

    this was dope

  • @edwardupton9244
    @edwardupton9244 9 місяців тому +2

    Hahahaha the first minute got me, straight shooting

  • @SxneleF1
    @SxneleF1 9 місяців тому +1

    Dope chat..

  • @dianaheynes6119
    @dianaheynes6119 8 місяців тому +2

    I absolutely enjoyed this podcast you are both amazing I individual's and who need to be exposed to the greater community for your insights. Thank you do much

  • @lebzadlamini2844
    @lebzadlamini2844 8 місяців тому +2

    I agree about getting people who understand politics to vote🖐️ cause yeah a lot of us youth and our parents have no idea about politics they only care about social grants and hilarious strikes but anything beyond that they are clueless.
    I've been interested into politics since i was 17 but none of my friends are interested.

  • @malhabmadlala8342
    @malhabmadlala8342 8 місяців тому

    The epic of Gilgamesh, in impressed Gareth

  • @user-ch1gk1ps3z
    @user-ch1gk1ps3z 9 місяців тому +3

    See, when it comes to voting age, it makes no sense for 18 year olds to vote. Today I'm 17 I'm a baby , have no clue whatsoever about government, but tomorrow I'm 18 I'm a grown up and suddenly I'm matured to vote? Lol, no, please make it make sense. There's no way. I always say to myself that the iec needs to reevaluate the voting system. Also, with my experience, a lot of people don't know how the government works. And these people are voters. How on earth do u give people such power when they don't understand how to use it and what comes with it? Makes no sense. IEC really needs to reevaluate the requirements of voting.

    • @godpenuel
      @godpenuel 9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for this comment. I fully agree with you 🙏🏽

  • @hanshuman1382
    @hanshuman1382 9 місяців тому +7

    Great conversation. We need to grow as individuals.

  • @christianKing101
    @christianKing101 2 місяці тому

    Black Pen forever!!! Awe!!!

  • @robertbenardo586
    @robertbenardo586 9 місяців тому +1

    The first Bar 😂 🔥🔥

  • @thandekakhathi7894
    @thandekakhathi7894 9 місяців тому +1

    Begging is not allowed in Oman, it’s a criminal offense

  • @purpisa_dlamini
    @purpisa_dlamini 8 місяців тому +1

    Great conversation, Penuel challenging my thoughts as always but saying Gareth is bating him suggests bro is now captured which is sad for a man with such robust thinking.

  • @hlogizaza69
    @hlogizaza69 9 місяців тому +2

    Penuel is a beast💯

  • @solomon2975
    @solomon2975 9 місяців тому +2

    🙌🏽

  • @mbusowanda6027
    @mbusowanda6027 9 місяців тому +2

    🔥🔥Penuel

  • @likhonamfamana4269
    @likhonamfamana4269 8 місяців тому

    Yhoo 😢

  • @simonboyane1140
    @simonboyane1140 9 місяців тому +3

    I'm totally disappointed in people who look at this interview as some sort of competition between Gareth and Penuel. This is about education on issues faced by humanity, especially South Africans. Stop being fanatics and start thinking for yourselves. It's obvious that you nothing about disagreements

    • @paballobutelezi5532
      @paballobutelezi5532 9 місяців тому +1

      Yoh you have said right!!! This is plain educational and taking what works for you as an individual and leave what does not work for you

  • @mthobisizondi2410
    @mthobisizondi2410 8 місяців тому

    Honestly In the part of Restricting people on voting
    I would support that hypothetically because it helps to have voters with educated knowledge and also informed
    But of cause democracy is for all above the majority age

  • @ledilempyatona4486
    @ledilempyatona4486 9 місяців тому +2

    He does hv a Saviour Complex,he believes he can save the world.

  • @beukaakunga9591
    @beukaakunga9591 8 місяців тому

    After a deep thought I think Penuel is closely linked to Jewish ideologies?There is a way that he speaks about them. But oh well he is a polymath and on top of that he articulates well.
    Cant we have a round table: Gareth; Eugene Khoza; Sol Phenduka and Penuel just for the love of knowledge and education ❤

  • @smishize
    @smishize 8 місяців тому +1

    Penuel really threw this podcaster a bone here.

  • @noluvuyogcilishe959
    @noluvuyogcilishe959 9 місяців тому +1

    Gareth at his element..

  • @user-bp2mm6pk7x
    @user-bp2mm6pk7x 8 місяців тому

    Off the gate, Gareth Son'd Pen. Pen succumbed, surrendered, tail tucked.

  • @pewpewnando
    @pewpewnando 8 місяців тому

    that Atheist knocking all other religions is the freeing of human minds
    that it is exhausting is absalutly correct

  • @mthulisidube5502
    @mthulisidube5502 9 місяців тому +1

    When one turns agnostic, it's a subtle admission that they had been duped by atheism.

  • @njabulodlamini2673
    @njabulodlamini2673 8 місяців тому

    39:59 Listen