GrapheneOS: 1 Year Update and All Apps I Use!!
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- Опубліковано 10 гру 2022
- It has been one year using GrapheneOS on a Google Pixel 5 and I absolutely have been enjoying this phone.
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To clarify, I do not have Google Play Services or Google Services Framework installed on my phone. All apps shown in this video, in each profile, are working for me without those Google services.
Outstanding!
I too disabled Google Services Framework, Play Store, Google Play Services on my Sister's Samsung Phone 🙃. Every App works fine even the Payments App, I think the Warning Notification is to deceive users to turn on the Services so they can Track you. Aurora Store and APK Mirror does the job 😤.
@ThePrivacyWayfinder Why my comment keep disappearing on your video 😭? Did you hide my Account from appearing 🥺 on your Channel?
@@_D.Va_ unless you removed everything (Google) from her phone, it's still running in the background.
@@heinzkitzvelvet Really? So will I need to uninstall it through ADB Command or is there something else that I am missing 🤔?
Your reply will be very helpful 👏
I watched your whole playlist. Thank you for being clear and concise in all of them. Learned a lot because of it. Good content.
What an amazing, realistic and an actual user friendly video! A great walkthrough to help users understand. Thanks for helping me decide!! 👍
Everything works now.
People are commenting like this video isnt 1 year old. Graphene has updated a lot since this video was released.
Good beginner friendly video!
Planning on getting graphene myself soon.
Already dipped my toes in with f droid with izzy and aurora store but going to make the full move soon
Thank you so much for this detailed video. We need tech like this to empower people rather than create a surveillance state.
Excellent vid guide, very helpful, thank u!👏👍
I don’t get the Google logo at all on start up which is nice, just the Graphenos one :)
Really useful vid, thanks!!
very helpful video. thank you my friend!
just installed this miracle to my p5 and p8 and its incredible OS
upd: 2 month later - batterylife perfect! eSIM supports, banking apps, NFC pay works fine! :) incredible OS.
How you managed to get nfc payments work?
You drive a Tesla, your phone doesn't spy on you but your car does.
great video! I took a couple of app for my personal use
Magic Earth has turn-by-turn voice navigation built in.
GrapheneOS is the best thing ever! Right now, in attempting to set up a FOSS 'Tasker' alternative called 'Easer' to automate unblocking the microphone when a phone call is in progress, then blocking it again when the call ends.
Same with the camera. Only unblocked when the camera app is in use. I don't want to have to remember to unblock and block those things constantly. We'll see how it goes.
That’s great and that is an excellent idea, hope it works out!
How would you rate Magic Earth compared to the Google Maps, Apple Maps, or Waze? As user friendly?
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder I've had every Google service possible, either disabled or paused for years. My wife has gmaps , which we have used from time to time. I don't think there is any alterative out there that beats it.
Never owned an Apple product, except an iPod nano my mom gave me 15 years ago, so I can't speak on Apple maps. I've never used Waze.
I used OSMand maps when I first got Graphene, but it was a nightmare to use and I hated it. Magic Earth is very user friendly by comparison. Maps are downloadable by state. I haven't used it a great deal, but I like it.
Good info, thanks!! I’ll probably try it out sometime.
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Side Of Burritos channel did a quasi-review of Magic Earth when he drove across a few states. He likened it to Apple maps.
ua-cam.com/video/rp--qY9eSYI/v-deo.html
Please let me know how you did it if you get it to work, I'd love to have the same sort of functionality.
Great video.
Pretty good setup ngl.
Great review! I hate that my pixel busted. However ,mine was a pixel 3a and GrapheneOS ran rather clunky.
Thanks 😊 really
Thanks for the thorough video.
How is the file management/ directory structure? Is it the same as standard android?
I do a lot of file management on my phone via the command line and the hierarchy android establishes is just a mess.
Especially if you have an external SD, it's a needle in the haystack to find downloaded files, app files, etc.
Hoping graphene fixes some of this.
How is basic systeem functionality? Can you use the camera and does the camera work like default Google OS? usually the camera is quite limited in functionality on a custom os?
Battery life?
Can you put the list in description? I'd like to have it as a reference.
Good Video
You can change Gallery and Calendar orange icons to matching other dark Graphene OS icons 😎
Great video was looking for more info on this OS and you gave it...thanks 👍
Awesome!
Good content a lot of information, keep up the work. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Stupid question, but how different are the SMS and phone apps for Graphene? Does the OS make any difference in the audio quality for a call?
How do you manage photos without iCloud or Goggle Photos? Do you have a cloud or backup service?
would be nice if there was an alternative to regular password input on powering up. something like being able to bind several codes to terminating all data instead of unblocking a phone
Not using dark mode, tsk tsk, kinda sus 😀 Jk, thanks for this, it was VERY informative as I begin my switch from a google-less LOS over to Graphene
:D haha! Hopefully you like it if you make the switch. Other than UA-cam (for this hobby of mine), it has been nice moving away all of my personal stuff from Google. I used to use Gmail, Google Contacts, Google Calendar, etc. It's been a fun experience making the switch and still a journey for me finding/exploring new alternatives (trying for as much open-source and community audited, since open-source doesn't mean anything if the code is not being scrutinized by many) as possible. Let me know if you ended up making switch!
That's it I'm getting a 6A tomorrow
Do you nowadays prefer droid-ify or Neo Store?
12:59 is what I wanted to see... They went with the wretched inefficient quick settings icons instead of the more efficient space saving ones.
Hey, what is the difference between using Telegram X Secure Chat and Signal?
How to change the ringtone on user profiles because the system just does not want to change it even to the ones that come with it. On the owner profile is possible but any other user has the ringtone changed to the "Castor" notification sound and it is very, very annoying! I wouldn't mind it but it is too quiet single note sound and I can barely hear it if I'm outside with max volume on the ringtone. Is there any possible way to change it because it really bugs me. I have to stay on the owner profile in order to hear if anyone is calling me. The strange thing is the notification sounds are NOT affected, only the ringtone. It might be a bug but seriously it is very annoying.
Great video. I plan on trading my iPhone 13 pro max for a pixel 7 soon
Nice!
Fantastic video -- i have a question or two for clarification. I can see you have the "Facebook family" of apps in one of the profiles. How do you go about installing those, and are notifications from those apps available to you regardless of what profile you're in? So for e.g., if you're in your main privacy focused profile, do you still get push notifications for, say, FB Messenger messages when it's installed in the "social" profile you set up?
And I guess I would ask that same question of WhatsApp too (though I don't think you have that installed). If I want to ensure I get WhatsApp push notifications at all times, regardless of what profile I'm in, is it possible to do this? Or do I have to switch to the profile that the app is installed in?
Thanks!! There is a setting where you can get notifications from different profiles sent to the profile you are working in. However, I haven't tried it as I like to not have notifications personally. Rather than notifications getting pushed to me, I go in and check everything manually. Keeps me from getting distracted, but I know that might not work for everyone. Sorry I couldnt answer this one but hopefully someone else can chime in!
Any specific reason for leaving Bitwarden as a password manager? Awesome review!
I guess I should have waited to you finish your thought on the Password Manager. Got my answer! Thanks!
Does banking apps work and safetynet passes on this rom brother
whats the boot time on this thing? from holding until being able to go into one app.
Do Signal push notifications work with GrapheneOS? Don't you need Google framework/play services or MicroG for live push notifications?
They do. When you first launch the app it will detect that Play Services aren't available and prompt you to allow unrestricted battery access. I believe it uses websockets instead of Play Services. However from my experience on a Pixel 4a this absolutely nukes battery life. I'm talking ~30% battery usage just from Signal idling overnight. I love everything else about Graphene but this one issue forced me to switch to Calyx + microG, it was a genuine deal breaker.
Oddly enough I only seem to be able to find scattershot evidence of others having the same problem. Not sure if it had to do with my model, if people are just fibbing, or what. I tried reinstalling the app from different sources and even completely reinstalling Graphene but the issue persisted. Meanwhile on Calyx + microG the drain is negligible.
@@SamAtAstrocraft Thanks for your answer. I think for most people "Sanboxed Google play services" is the way to go. With my Pixel 5 I'm getting over 8 hours display time where I watch ~6,5 hours youtube videos/shorts. I haven't tried CalyX with MicroG yet as I'm quite happy with GrapheneOS so far!
@@SamAtAstrocraft Because people don't turn it on.
They open signal when they feel like it and respond if needed.
Molly FOSS is better tho.
I have a Pixel 7 w/GrapheneOS installed. Is there a tracker such as Samsung Smart tag that is compatable ?
You are probably hearing this question but is there a workaround for nfc pay not working?
When a device loses support from graphene os devs, does that mean I no longer can have the flashed rom on the phone or is it simple not advised? Thanks, super video! 😊
Just means it won’t receive any future updates or fixes.
@Jesse Phoenix Yes
u can still
I would Love to have a Graphene OS for desktop, like windows or linux based, or even android as long as it works well with desktop like a chromebook
Hi, I saw it Naomi Brockwell and it only works with Pixels and not with others and you have to register on your site for privacy issues or something else, is that right for you?
Yes it only works with Pixels...but no, you don't have to register the device.
hey) what case you use in this vid? thx
I have purchased a new Google Pixel 7 Pro 12GB of ram with 512 GB memory storage. I cannot pick up incoming phone calls from primary profile on GrapheneOS.
When I am on my owner profile, I see the call, hear the ring tone but the "switch to profile" button is unresponsive. so why is this happening.
I hope this makes some sense and I am not littering this space too much. Any ideas/help is much appreciated.
Microsoft has a tendency to throw some propriety file extensions into Word and Excel that might not be readable by other programs.
I see that you have signal I been having it two years after it came out. Quic question is signal better than telegram on privacy?
How did you get colors ??
For icons . I thought graphene OS has no colors ,!
Can you use banking apps on graphene safety?
I tried Organic maps. I could never understand how to use it. I even tried watching UA-cam videos on it and still never understood it.
I am planning to get pixel 8 pro so that I can get grapheneOS. I am just wondering if my Banking apps work with it.
Love Graphene, faster, and supposedly the sandbox prevents google services from sending their tracking info to their urls, or maybe I misread.
I have at&t prepaid. Would I be okay if I installed this or does it even matter?
i have two samsung 2/16 phones from 2016 - can i put it there?
Does GrapheneOS vanadium or lineageOS only works with certain phone models, or any models including Samsung S23 ultra?
GrapheneOS is only supported on Google Pixel phones. I'm not sure about lineageOS.
Good morning Is there an app that resets the phone if there are several false unlock codes?
Sooo. If you don't have the Google Play Store installed, how did you start installing apps? There doesn't appear to be any other way to install apps on my Pixel 6a install of GOS.
Aurora store gets you everything that the play store gets & more.. look up how to set it up
Is it true that there is no Adaptive Charging on GrapheneOS?
Therefore the battery should be on 100% over hours during sleep, which would decrease battery health quicker than necessary.
Charging and unplugging before sleep is possible but inconvenient with 10% battery consumption per night on a Pixel
Hi! You are correct, GrapheneOS does not have adaptive charging.
What apps does it come with for texting?
What version of pixel would you recommend and say is the the best for grapheneOS?
I think the Pixel 6 is a good value right now. You can find an unlocked refurb unit on Amazon for low $200s. I currently use a Pixel 5, but Security Updates/Support is ending October of this year.
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder yea Im probably go with 6a cus the updates and support will last up till 2027.. Thanks for a quick reply mate
I love ProtonMail but I hate that it doesn't show notification without Google Play Services.
True, but for me, I’ve learned to live the “pull” lifestyle where I check email when I have the time. Helps my phone not being blown up with notifications 😄
Is it possible to buy an unlocked google pixel phone and install graphene os myself, or is it better to buy one that comes all set-up?
I mean, I know it's possible to install it myself, but will it work just as good as this one?
It’s always best to install it yourself imo. Having someone else or another company do it for you, you would be putting trust that they did not mess with the OS.
How do you back up your MFA token generators?
ua-cam.com/video/NLlPks9pIxg/v-deo.html This video that I made for transferring tokens between profiles applies to how I backup. I backup to two usb drives that I keep in a safe place. So if my phone dies, I just restore from that usb drive.
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder Excellent, thank you!
Surprised to see you have Facebook Lite and Messenger. Doesn't that mean that they have access to your phonebook contacts?
It probably would have access. However this is why I install these in a separate profile that is sandboxes from my main profile with my information.
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder So to clarify, that means that you can simply have Facebook in a profile that doesn't have any contacts in the phone book? How about location? I saw that you occasionally turn on your global location services setting.
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder Why don't you just use the browser version of facebook ? That's how i use twitter
how can change font in graphenos ?
I love Organic Maps. I use it completely off-line with excellent search results. Oh, and the graphics are so pleasant... Loaded via F-Droid. -- in EU no less.
How do you make your contactless payments ? How do you convince all of your friends to switch to Signal?
Everything works now. This video is a year old..
Ya may wanna reconsider Proton apps...
Why?
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- гледао сам већ
- али то ради само на гоогле телефоне
- а док кажеш гоогле мени се гади
Have u noticed a decrease in the amount of schooling you do on social media since switching ?
I am on social media way less....but to be honest, now spend more time on NewPipe. At least I'm learning haha :)
Can you also do this on the pixel 6 or pixel 7?
I can.
Do you play any games on your phone?
I don't think he does💀
You care about privacy but still drive Tesla...
Both can be true. Handing over the location of your vehicle is a far stretch from giving away access to your smart phone.
Ohh no they know what grocery store he went to. Isn’t like there’s cameras taking pictures of the license plates every second
You can just disable it's LTE and WiFi modems and it will be a regular off-grid car.
@@purecountry6672 I believe the concern is more referring to how tesla is looking into making the car auto repo itself.
@@chukwu_9 well, I don’t want them knowing what grocery store I went to and alleged stationary cameras taking pictures of your plates aren’t as bad of a privacy violation as a GPS tracking you constantly. Furthermore, the fact our privacy is aready being violated isn’t justification for further violations.
Would you accept to be r4aped a second time because you were r4ped the forst time?
Unless we can create private apps and get the whole world to switch platforms i dont understand whats the point? you basically have a super private calls, txts, and email, i guess internet too but might as well just use a nokia brick or older phones that dont have the trackable hardware or use burners and disconnects everything manually? And then graphene only runs on google devices which i find odd, like u dont think google built in backdoors to their stuff idk it is all a bit above my head so im trying to learn more. Just seems to me in this day and age if a govn. LVl type agency wants to find and get into your stuff...they can.
Do you still recommend getting the Pixel 5 for Graphene OS?
Pixel 5 security support will be ending soon. I'd recommend getting Pixel 6 to have security patches for next several years. Right now used ones are good value.
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder Aha, thanks for ur response!
man why would you show your totp codes. someone can use those to figure out your seed.
Grafeno hasta en la sopa..
curious but does your protonmail's notification work since you do not have gsf installed?
Push notifications does not work for me. You have to use the “pull” method where you open the app whenever you want to fetch new mail. I have learned to live with this and actually prefer it now since I’m not bombarded and distracted by each notification. However, this might be a deal breaker for some. Even with GSF, notifications does not work for me.
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder configured it and it works with play store downloaded!
But i dont have the finger backe side
May I ask, is it possible to run Kali Linux kernel with grapheme os?
No, maybe if you can dual boot somehow
Hello :) Can you tell me when Graphene OS support ends for Pixel 5? With a view to buying, does it make sense in your opinion to buy it, or is a device like pixel 6a better? Thanks
I think going with a Pixel 6 right now is the best bang for your buck. I saw on Amazon last week they had a refurbished one in excellent condition for around $220. Plus starting at Pixel 6 there are doing 5 year support from the date of release, that's great! I personally don't mind refurbs as the flashing process completely reinstalls the OS anyways, and I've always had good experience :)
The Pixel 5 will lose support in October 2023 this year I believe. So I’m comfortable using it until then. Once it loses security updates, I’m changing to a Pixel 6.
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder would you recommend me use it for like another 1year after october ?
are you still using your graphene OS?
Yup, been on GrapheneOS for 2 years now! Still using it as my primary device.
Hi
I wonder how to install GrapheneOS on Android phones like, Samsung, Xiaomi, etc? Is it compatible?
I am very keen to install GrapheneOS onto my Xiaomi 11T pro!
Thanks
those phones doesn't have various developer tools that pixel has. Mainly the ability to relock the boot loader. Pixel also gets faster security updates from Google.
no privacy without security
Anyone know if Grapheneos on Pixel 6a will work with Metro by Tmobile?
service company doesn't matter
Why do you use password managers. They are an obvious & easy line of attack. Why not just use something like supergenpass that requires zero apps, zero backups, zero effort? One of the biggest improvements you can make to your security situation is to migrate to supergenpass and avoid password managers all together. Nothing to save, nothing to backup, nothing that can get compromised.
I bought an oppo find x5 about 6 months ago and was debating whether to install graphene and in the end I didn't. But its an idea that I keep returning to - do you think there would still be a benefit to me installing graphene on the phone even though I've used it for 6 months now?Just wondering what you think!
Only google pixel phones can run GrapheneOS. You will have to find another android ROM.
*can use whatsapp or UA-cam?*
Those who have tried both. Is it worth switching from CalyxOS to GrapheneOS? And I don't need to but is upgrading to the pixel 7a worth it from a pixel 5. I've been using CalyxOS for well over a year.
Great question! Any unbiased answers out there?
i wish i could use this on my samsung a32 xd
this does not sit on top of the pixel android os does it? this is a true os replacement.?
It is a fork of the Andoid OS.
Android is an open source project that is not run by Google.
Google installs their particular version of Android which requires their google services background app to run many of their apps, but the phone hardware itself interfaces with the open source Android platform.
@@dialecticalmonist3405 Thank you!
Does organic maps need a SIM card to work? It doesn't seem to find me with Wifi only (Airplane mode on)
you may have turned off network permissions too early, you need to download maps first then feel free to turn them off
why did you drop bitwarden?
Keepass is completely offline, and I wanted to try to manage my own password database. I've been doing it for about 6 months now and have been enjoying the process. But that's about it, I absolutely love bitwarden and still trust it. I believe you can self host bitwarden too, but never tried it. Keepass is just very easy, so no need to try something else.
brother i have a question can i install it on my redme note 9 pro devices
No, just on Google Pixel devices.
Can I use crypto ledger app in this OS ?
I hope you have the keys to that wallet. If not, it’s pure cringe.
Mr. Privacy, can u tell me, why would GrapheneOS Trust the HARDWARE of google? do u know for a fact, that the hardware is not "tracking/spying" on u?
long ago i saw even the cpu chip makers put some "backdoors" into their chips..
i dno man, feels littlebit strange..
Here’s a good interview for why GrapheneOS chooses Google Pixel devices. ua-cam.com/video/WkQ_OCzuLNg/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
I trust GrapheneOS and if they chose pixel devices, then I’m okay with their judgement. As an average user, it’s way above my understanding and I have to trust these projects. It’s way better than using iPhone or Stock Android imo 😀
No cryptocurrency wallets?!
Only for pixel devices
oh, wait, the privacy guy that uploades all personal data to davos servers in Switzerland that is up to date with 'immunizations' has a Tesla. 🤣🤣
:D
Bromite is dead and actually vulnerable now. I switched to "mull" (on f droid)
Can you share the vulnerability details and maybe a link to a report? I do see that the app was not updated since Dec 2022, so I'm truly interested to learn more. Thanks!!
Ah, yes I see that now. Thanks for the heads up!
I JUST LOST A YEAR OF IMPORTANT PHOTOS!!! BACKUP FIRST!!!
I guess I only have myself to blame really; but I watched 5+ long videos about GrapheneOS and installation walkthroughs, and I guess I still somehow just missed the memo to make sure your phone is COMPLETELY BACKED UP (PHOTOS, files, anything that you would lose if you could push one “wipe phone” button on your phone).
Do not do a single step of installing GrapheneOS, before making sure you haven’t forgotten to backup EVERYTHING.
RIP Dad, RIP Lily, RIP Patches; a year of saving things through pictures and screenshots gone, a year of a lot of photos of myself that now, I just won’t have a year of my life to be able to reference or look back at; just a year that I’ll pretend I was blackout drunk literally every day, because I literally have no other way of verifying that that year even happened tbh. Poof.
RIP me
Sorry to hear that.
Unlocking the bootloader erases user data on the device. Something that the GrapheneOS documentation is thorough about, and any respectable 3rd party installation walkthrough.