🤔The Sim Racing gear you should upgrade first
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Upgrading driving knowlegdge is free and has the most impact on driving times.
Agreed! I recommend Driver61s university series for anyone wanting to know more of the technical knowledge racing drivers need to have.
Underestimated for real. Had my logitech g920 for years before upgrading to dd and even tho it made me more consistent just seat time alone made the biggest difference
There has never been a better time to get into sim racing. You can get a great deal on full setups that were never financially viable for most beginner sim racers. With Fanatecs CSL DD line up you can’t beat the price for the product and the upgrade ability. I recently bought the McLaren CSL DD bundle for $532 after tax and shipping and got myself the 8nm PSU from China for $40. You could also make your own for about $50. Definitely wish they had that back when I started. Probably still would have started on a G29 but could have saved money by skipping the upgrade to the mid range belt driven wheel bases.
Don’t forget a rig doesn’t need to be $1000 aluminum profile. I built my rig for free using some old wood 2x6s plywood and screws I had laying around. If you don’t have any wood laying around go to construction sites or hardware stores. They will often have wood laying around for free or very cheap. If you don’t have a circular saw or drill use this as an excuse to buy them. I started with a g29 and Xbox with this rig. Im now 5 years and over $5000 into the hobby still using the original wood rig and $40 Porsche cayenne seat I got from a junkyard. Even with a 23nm wheelbase and 90kg loadcell pedals the rig holds up. Painted black it basically looks like a profile rig too.
Hi, superb video.
I've began with a DFGT 12 years ago, to a G29 4 years ago.
Since then, I've bought an RSeat RS1 last year, and it was a game changer.
The consistency, as you said, is greatly improved by a rig.
And last week, I've purchased the GT DD Pro with 8 Nm kit and the LC pedals. Unfortunately, there's a problem with my throttle pedal, but I've tested the bundle on AC with the clutch as throttle.
This is just incredible.
I also bought the CSL DD but with the Mclaren wheel :) I hope my throttle works!, and that your get fixed. Have you tried to measure if the hallsensor works?
@@AndrewTSq congrats! I think that it was the wiring of the pedals which was at fault.
I'll suggest that you respect carefully the instructions given by Fanatec, especially if you have the Loadcell kit.
@@akuzin13 no loadcell yet, will get for christmas :) but yes I saw that when I read the manuals on fanatec site that you were supposed to be careful on how to wire it up,. and also not use the USB and the RJ12 to wheel at the same time from the pedals.
Thank😢for sharing your experience and your insights, definitely has helped me get better.
great video, man. i'm starting to build my own racing set up, and i've recently bought the T-LCM pedals, and it is really my first piece of many.
however, i've seen lots of people who's got a better set up, and the expensive ones as well, i'm thinking of just looking/
watching other people build theirs, rather than being mine.
i find it difficult for now to earn my own money to build my desired set up for everything, so i can't really fathom to continue for now. nonetheless, i hope i can see you grow and grow into a successful channel. have a good one!
If I was to start again. My first upgrade would be a rig too. I bought my VRS pedals first and although I made them work. With a wooden mounting box that hit the wall under my desk. It wasn't ideal. Once I got my solid rig my breaking consistency improved a lot. Having a fixed chair and not recliner or seat with a lot of play in it helps too.
Very insightful, thank you! I started sim racing after I found an old Logitech Momo wheel and pedals in my brother in law's cupboard about 4 years ago. For the last 2 years I've had the ol' G920 and bought an ultrawide monitor. A year ago I built my own rig with timber and a seat salvaged from a Mazda 6 at the junkyard (solid as a rock)! On Thursday, my Fanatec CSL DD Ready to Race Bundle (with load cell pedal) arrives. Can't wait!
I built my first rig out of an exercise machine frame and plywood. 2006 or so.
I bought a used Acura front seat, and had a 24 inch monitor. A Driving Force Pro wheel completed it. Now it's an Omega GT rig, G Pro wheel/pedals and a 55'' OLED monitor.
Butt kickers all around. For sim racing I go VR. This is a fun hobby.
I have a t300rs for 3 years now and recently i upgraded my pedals to girrosim xr pro best choise i've ever made!! For me if you already have a logitech or a thrustmaster bundle you should definetly upgrade your pedals!!!
after getting a rig in July, getting a comfortable rig and seat should be the #1 priority. If you are desk clamping a G29, the first thing I would do is get a rig to mount them to. Upgrading pedals is useless if you cant mount them to anything. I would recommend skipping the $200-$300 pedal upgrade phase and go straight for Heusinkveld Sprints/VRS Pedals/Venym/Asetek pedals, you'll thank me later for that one.
It depends tho what ur doing I think dd is a must have for rallying or drifting. In that case a better wheel definitely will improve ur driving.
Before watching the vid, I say pedals if you arent using a loadcell. Its a huge upgrade to consistency
For me having a wheelstand after years stuck with a table was a game changer an I'm vastly faster just by being comfortable with the wheel, even when I'm sit on a camping chair, with G25 I don't need much else.
But, I guess a wheelstand is not recommendable for a DD wheel but I'm really short in space so I maybe I will be stuck with my equipment and not upgrade to a DD wheel.
Hey random callsign! Just a quick question. I am looking to improve my mounting solution from a desk. I currently have a G920, but am looking into upgrading into entry level DD wheels soon enough. Based on your experience and knowledge, which type of rig will be better, a wheelstand like the NRL Wheel Stand 2.0, or a foldable rig such as the Playseat Challenge or NRL F-GT Lite? I don't really have the space or budget for a full rig, those these are my opionions. Thanks!
I have 1300 hours in ac on a gamepad and I'm within a second of regular race pace. The befit of a gamepad is I can switch between work and play in a minute. Something like the cammus c5 does look nice for a quick swap in solution.
Do you think it's better if I upgrade the pedals to Simjack pro Loadcell or buy a new drift steering wheel and gloves? The pedals I use are Thrustmaster T3PM
Get better pedals if you're racing, but get a DD wheelbase and wheel if you're drifting. Or just upgrade everything at once
If the csl elite v2’s and the clubsport v3 with break performance kit were the same price, which ones would you buy?
Do you have any problems with csl dd in terms of build quality because after a bit of time some people say ist stating to get damage especially with cables or weid Noises so do you have any problems with the csl dd
wheelstands is ok for entry level stuff, like my rig has Moza R5 + Fanatec csl elite lc pedals in gt omvega apex wheelstand. and chair has locking wheels. i can press hardest what i can and still no movement on seat. (and i can go gym and but 220kg weights in leg press at max)
wheelstands are practical for lots of people.
The biggest selling point for a wheel stand is how u can just compact it and put it away, doesnt require a lot of space.
What’s an entry level rig that’s not to wide but still stable enough for an entry level DD? I’m looking to get into it competitively and want to start right
Rig space : the final frontier. Cheers RC.
these were the journeys of the starship dont have space for a rig, bro.
Thanks for 4 years as a sub
@@randomcallsign 😁
Actually, gear driven wheels shouldnt be a disadvantage, since in a car the steeringwheel is geardriven. I just think its about the construction that makes it bad in the low cost wheels. (I already have a gaming chair, a 48" curved monitor, and a VR headset.. but now I upgraded my Logitech DFGT that I bought for Gran Turismo 5 to a CSL DD Fanatec, with the Mclaren wheel :)
So I broke my pedals on my logitech g923. Should I just upgrade to better wheel base? Or just buy a separate pedal? If I were to go to buy a pedal what worls with the logitech g923?
well, you can look at it a couple of ways if your current rig allows for loadcell pedals. You can either get a better pedal set or get a new bundle set with a loadcell and a direct drive. Both will be upgrades, but of course only you can decide which ones to get.
What bundle would you recommend under $350? I just picked up the Logitech g923 with the shifter brand new for $326, but many people have told me that it’s a bad wheel. Should I keep it or would you recommend anything better?
the g923 is not a nad wheel. its expensive for what it is. the g29 does the same and its far cheaper.
Don't listen to anyone criticizing your equipment choice. Someone will always tell you that you made the wrong choice no matter how much you spend. Enjoy your wheel! Wear that thing out and then decide what you would like to upgrade to. Have fun and get immersed in your racing. That's all that counts.
@@bobdamski4164 thanks, I’ve made the decision to keep it. I’ve been having a blast in assetto corsa lately.
Nooo, dont wanna think about upgrading haha, just got the csl dd bundle for 460eur a few days ago, tho my next upgrade will be some wheel stand tbh cus my ikea desk isnt made for this :p still so much fun
Seriously consider saving up for a rig w/ a seat over a wheel stand. I just got setup last week with a wheel stand and I am already regretting it. Under hard braking, the wheel stand can occasionally slide, and therefore soak up your breaking efficiency.I am using a GT Omega Apex stand on carpet.
All of that being said, you can upgrade the Apex wheel stand with the seat add-on, which I am considering, but you will then be pretty close to the cost of a Prime Lite or Art, but have less rigidity and adjustment.
Instead of a office desk, get a kitchen table from Ikea!, they cost as much but are very sturdy in construction. Atleast my old one :) I also bought the CSL DD bundle :D btw. My says its shipped, but I have not gotten a tracking number, did you get a tracking number? I use the Playseat Challenge since many years ago, it works great. Lets hope it works as good with the Fanatec as with my Logitech :)
@@kellymerrellfilms i live in a flat so space is an issue, but otherwise thanks a lot for your time, i was indeed aiming for apex, mostly due to practicality, good reviews and low cost, i hate wasting money haha
@@AndrewTSq u can email them and they'll send it to u (the tracking number), but even without it people have reported they got the package in less than a week (europeans), enjoy the experience, its amazing
@@kingjasko I totally get. Well, the Apex stand is nice for what it is. One thing that I forgot about, because it doesn't work with my weird chair, is that it does come with a tray that you can set the front wheels of an office chair (or dining chair) in that should help keep it from sliding.
Thanks for the video! Can i start sim racing on Xbox series x? If the games platform offer is enough for me? Or force feedback will be bad?
I dont have the xbox, but i think acc ffb in the xbox should be the same as in the pc and ps5
@@randomcallsign thanks! 🫡
for somebody that is going to start in this world of simracing ,should i get the csl dd or going for the g923 , the thing is they are really closer on the price !
If you can afford the csl dd then definitely this one. The G923 is basically a fancy G27 which Logitech released in 2010.
if you can afford the csl or a dd drive, go for it instead. these also retain the price well, so if you dont like them, ou can sell them easily
I've got Prime Lite from your discount code. Do you get something from it?
Hello there, i have no visibility about sales. Don't worry about it. Enjoy the rig and have fun 😊
@@randomcallsign I ment if you get anything from that someone use your discount code.
Many people have those codes and I always wonder if they have profits from it and if then what kind 😉
Are there any good enough rigs under 300? And especially is the pillar for the wheel in the middle a deal breaker if i want to use 3 pedals?
at around 400, theres the trackracer lite, gtomega lite, simlab gt
@@randomcallsign thanks I'll have a look at them
Simetik K2-R is €465 and much more rigid than all of the above. As rigid as the top of the line aluminium profile rigs.
@@boosivemotorsportofficial thanks, tbh 300 is at the upper limit of my budget including the seat so that's way too much for me. I'll most likely try and find something used where I live because the only one I've found that looks remotely usable is the playseat evolution (and still has the central pillar problem)
@podio_km4g532 tbh mate. My best advice is to just save up. Otherwise you'll end up spending more in the long run if that makes sense? As you'll want to upgrade further down the line. For example: I've bought 2 wheel bundles this year already. First I bought the G923 which I had for a month. Then I bought the Moza R5 bundle. Now I'm buying the VRS DFP wheelbase in a couple of weeks, all because ive outgrown what I've already bought. If you're serious about the hobby, you'll soon grow out of the lower end gear.
i want c5 but 370 too much for a wheel rn
1:02 my desk can handle CSL DD no problem... but this crap csl dd clamp doesn't handle the wheel. Poor design of this clamp
the clamp is horrible
@@randomcallsign Yea and that is why I gave up waiting for black friday and probably will have to order something like GT Omega Prime Lite about now.
If you have a thicker MDF or something, you might be able to cut it to be a little bit larger than your wheelbas, then screw the wheelbase into the MDF and use clamps to fit the MDF to your board. I mean the clamps are good enough to press bearins into a bike, so I guess they will be able to hold your wheel. Quick & dirty solution that you might have parts for at home, and use until you get something more professional looking way to put it on your desk :)
I bought a Logitech g920 to play Forza on xbox. Then got a gaming laptop and start to play AC. After 1.5 years, I upgraded to a t300 set. Over the past 2 years I added a fanatec handbrake, clubsport v3 paddles csw2.5 wheel base and Porsche wheel, then the clubsport shifter. Now I got a PS5 and due for an upgrade to a GT DD pro again 😢😅
All this "mounting advice" people give out for ages is total bullcrap. I ran my SC2 for over a year on a 10 year old RaceRoom rig and while I obviously had to drill holes into the baseplate (which was originally desined for a G27), it was fix and sturdy AF. Especially compared to when I often see UA-camrs reviewing shit on their channels and then you see their whole rigs shaking when they wiggle shits on their front mounts. Just saying!
If you're a drifter or rally driver I would go wheel base first over pedals though.
you are balding bro if you want to save your hair start treatment immediatly
Yes that's what happens when you get into the late 30s. Also it's exactly rhe same hairline since my early 20s. I'm OK, thanks.
@@randomcallsign Same hairline yes but very significant thinning at the top, i would give it 5 years top. Anyway i didnt know you were in your late thirties bro my bad you look good for your age.
having hair is def not as important when you are older