Can’t say how much I appreciate these podcasts. Imagine if we had interviews like this from a soldier who was at the Battle of Gettysburg or who was at Lexington. So important to have these for history.
My college professor took us to Gettysburg. I didn’t appreciate how huge that was until maybe 10 years later. I emailed him thanks... he’d been promoted to something like assistant dean... he responded... solid man, much respect
@@leecrotty658 - That was my thoughts on Gettysburg as well. The size of the battlefield surprised me. I'm planning on getting back there someday on doing a history video for my channel.
Mike Bonter - I think about that kind of stuff often. I’ve been interviewing as many WWII, Korean War and Vietnam War vets as I can just for that reason (got a few up on my channel now). Future generations are going to have a gift with the way that history can be documented today.
hooked on SOG since John stryker. Out of 1000s podcasts ive seen --SOG is platinum! Hard to find these guys...keep their story alive!!! This is the best stuff out there
My father Sergeant Mark Louis Pollock was in MACVSOG at CCN April 1971 until Dec 71. He was a One-One and eventually a One Zero on RT Mamba. He recently just passed away Oct. 11. I never heard alot of stories from him as talking about it was very difficult for him. If any sog veteran reads this and remembers him please reply to this. I knew he was a hero before these podcasts existed but these stories are absolutely mind blowing. My father once received a letter John Plaster who wrote a book on SOG asking if he wanted to add any information or stories to his book. For reasons unknown, my father declined. I guess im just looking for closure and hoping to get into contact with someone who may have served with my father. Thank you to all the SOG veterans. You are the hardest of the hard. The most underrated and unappreciated special forces group in history.
Jared Pollock try writing/emailing John Plaster or John Stryker Meyer. Good luck and I hope you find what you’re looking for... I think there are a lot of reasons the men didn’t talk about it afterward. One big reason is how they were treated upon returning. The way they were treated was wrong. They gave everything they had and then were treated like scum by the very people they were there for!
Cmon man you should have gotten him on the podcast before your old man passed. Jocko wold have been able to open him up he just didn't want to talk you about it.
Some talked about it, some didn’t. My swim coach was force recon, toughest man I ever met. He didn’t talk, but he rubbed off on me as I am sure your Father did. Be proud, and god bless.
My dad was ww2 Iwo Jima and Chosen Resovoure ( useless spell check) and later as an advisor in So Vietnam in 64 or 65 anyway he went on to mention a few things during Victory at sea program on Iwo and when a buddy would visit Sgt Major Nelson would come over and visit they would reminisce the old days.
I just binged these 3 episodes with Dick Thompson. Hands down the CRAZIEST stories I've heard. I promise, everyone needs to listen to this mans stories. I'll go my entire life without seeing HALF of the madness this man saw on one single deployment. An absolute legend.
As much as jocko knows/been through etc. Humble badass leader that continues tradition of warriors before him. Alpha male that identifies as such lmfao!!! Beast podcast!!
Part of it for me is Jocko's exasperated reactions to these stories. I have no idea how 99% of ANY of these thinga go, more like 99.99%, but Jocko does and man is he shocked sometimes. Lmao
This is the one of the most engaging interviews I’ve ever seen on Jocko’s channel so far. Mr. Thompson has a way of making you feel the intensity of what he experiences in that unforgiving war. He’s the kind of guy you’d love to listen to sitting around a camp fire…
My Grandpa is the Sgt Deck he starts talking about at the 39 min mark. I've been wanting to try and get something like this podcast together of him talking about his experiences. Today Oct 24 I showed him a little bit of this and he smiled big and said yup, that's me he is talking about. So hopefully he'll warm up to the idea after slowly talking to him about it. I'd love to have his story told, and I also think it would help him. He never would talk about any of it to me. Understandably so after listening to this. These guy's are a different breed.
Dude contact Jocko! We need more of these! My Grandfather was in the middle east, doing como for super secret shit. Ive mentioned these podcasts/interviews, and he's started talking more. We MEED to know this history, the true way it happened.
I wouldnt want to be the young hotshot in an Ironman saying "Move over, Grandpa" to Dick Thompson. If he had his feet blown off, he'd chase you down on the stumps, chew your arm off and beat you to death with it.
@Ana Vargas one of the best books I have ever read was called "The men with green faces" navy seal machine gunner Gene Wentz. I could not put that book down, they were some of the first original navy seals to be sent to Vietnam, Look into it.
The description of his early childhood years was both wonderful to hear and in some ways difficult…being a city boy myself… A father and 5 uncles in the military….. What a gift
I went to the MAC V SOG reunion 2019, was an honor to meet these GREAT MEN! thank you for allowing me to attend and seek info about my Father who did several tours with MAC V SOG!
When I joined in the early 80s we were lucky to have SOG members from Nam, and many other units who saw the shit still sprinkled through the community as instructors it took seconds to distinguish them from the others they were and remain my hero’s
same with my father 1980 to 2005 Army Ranger and finally retired as a ODA LT COl. all his sgt. and above in Ranger battalion were LARP and SOG guys Robert Howard was one of them
Yep, I was in during the 80’s and we were lucky to have several Vietnam vets still serving. My Airborne School commander was Lt. Col. Leonard B. Scott who wrote “Charlie Mike” which told a fictional account of LRRPs in Vietnam. When I attended Long Range Surveillance Leaders Course at Ft. Benning one of the instructors was a LRRP in Vietnam a wealth of knowledge even for the school’s AOIC who thought he wrote the book on long range patrols. The Vietnam vet showed the officer that the book had already been written long before in blood and sweat of vets like him.
Wow. This guy is for real. When he talks about his tactics he goes back into full SOG operator mode. There’s a ton of stuff I learned from this interview. What a brilliant tactician. This is one of my favorites so far
These podcasts are so amazing, I'm a South African and also spend time in the military. When I listen to these great stories and get to learn so much about all these secret missions that took place. It leaves me with a feeling of admiration and respect for these great warriors. Great to listen
My Uncle Charles Whitman was in SF in 1961 and think of Him often as well as His 2 brothers who were also in Vietnam John (1968 Chu Li 20 months and Korea Pusan perimeter 1950-1951 now buried in Arlington) and Uncle Claude 1965 all my Mom's brothers and miss them all!
No college has zip influence...High school bk then better than most SJW degrees on gender study etc worthless crap...These Dudes born Hard as Brazilian nut....
Andreas Brazier it’s indicative of being a dumbass or not. At this guys level there are plenty of guys who can fight, shoot AND are book smart, so they might as well pick those guys over the guys who are not book smart but can fight and shot well. Just saying.
Completely humbled by the bravery, gallantry and patriotism of these great American warriors. Praise God for the blessing of having them in our country fighting for freedom all over the world. God Bless America.
Around 2 hours in it is great to hear Dick talking more in depth about Eldon Bargewell. His name was mentioned by Tilt and others but Eldon was a living legend. Nick Brokhausen writes about him a lot in his first book. RIP MG Bargewell. I was shocked when I heard of his passing and the circumstances. To survive what he went thru in SOG and to die due to a riding lawn mower accident is just crazy.
I was just going to comment that it would be awesome to see a podcast with General Bargewell, unfortunately he passed away about six months ago. These SOG men are a real treasure. I am very grateful to be able to hear their stories and learn from them. Thank you Lt Commander Willink for taking the time and effort to make sure the knowledge and stories of these heros can live on and benefit future generations.
Dick Thompson is a Patriot and an exemplary human being. I am fortunate to have learned essential lessons about leadership directly from Dick. He was my first boss in organizational development. I was lucky to have cut my teeth at Dick's company, High Performing Systems.
@@hulkangry5546 either that or nobody will watch it because a critic will say the movie is completely over the top, not realizing the story was down played to keep it r-rated
Before that I read of four wacky stress level stories: 1. Two police officers put 120 rounds in somebody after entering the suspect's home. After running out of ammo, they went back into the car, reloaded and continued shooting at the corpse. 2. During the first Gulf War, an Apache crew was sent on a nearby scouting operation with do not fire orders. The Apache has a "you are hear map" and the crew got lost. They see a British APC next to U.S. tanks and think it's Iraqi. They try to launch a Hellfire and the safety system shut it down. The safety system was activated when the targeting laser hit the APC and the APC pinged back to the Apache that it was a friendly. The Apache crew then destroyed the safety system in order to launch the missile. The Apache crew went to prison for that. 3. New York uniformed subway cops would routinely point guns at and even shoot their undercover partners that went to the same briefings just minutes before. 4. Some police in California gassed and then attacked peaceful protesters they were monitoring at a park. It turns out that the police heard imaginary commands to tell them to disperse the crowd. Imagine what would have happened if those voices said those protesters were armed and dangerous.
Thank you Jocko for providing this platform for veteran heroes to share their stories. Our country didn't give these guys the respect they deserved when they first returned, and this podcast is part of the redemption. If the podcast takes 3 plus hours, you give them 3 plus hours. You also "listen," which is a rare trait in humans. Most people are engaged in "bialogue," where each person is just waiting to talk, not really listening, absorbing. True dialogue is hard to come by.
These stories make my life so much better. The conversations saved my perspective, and you and your guests' service made it possible to live it out. There is no way to thank you all enough, other than making good use of the time we have gained from those sacrifices.
Dick Thompson and John Stryker Meyer have contributed to me reading everything I can find on SOG. Incredible stories and displays of bravery by these heroes.
I like that Jocko brings up the AW aspect. They should have mentioned the difference in physical training between the branches. The Army avoided weight lifting for the longest time, where SEALs and Marines adopted that training pretty early. After kicking in doors and climbing stairs with all that weight on, in Ramadi 05-06, we learned how valuable strength training is to prepare for war.
‘Life expectancy of a LT. in Vietnam was about a day and a half at that time’ Wow. And this guy still moves in for it. Thank You for Your service, Sir. Greetings from Norway
thank you so much for shining the light back on sog..there is obviously a well pool of heroic and harrowing stories to be told and i personally want to know about everyone...plz bring back tilt..and thank u so much jocko and echo
Legend - loved the banter after Interview... Reminded me of banter in the Mess in my short lived Navy days. Salute to all the Warriors. I can only wish to have been half as useful as you Wardawgs ;)
I’m from the low country of South Carolina born and raised in Georgetown and it’s nice to finally see someone from my home state on here for a change this guy is awesome 👏🏻 💯
Growing up I remember hearing rumors about what these brave warriors did. Was just a kid when the men from Vietnam were returning. Now to hear the actual accounts. Even more respect for this fading generation. Keep up the great work.
Set the culture of excellence yourself when you get to your MOS. Don't get lulled into following guys with slack ways and slack discipline. Always study, prepare, and lead.
if you need a rlly nice knife hit me up, my buissness I work at that my uncle owns has been making handmade knives, for 40+ years I can make you a survival, hunting, or pocket knife. :) I'd be happy to make you a awesome knife for bootcamp idk if u could bring one or not but I'll still make u one! :)
The first thing I noticed was Jocko’s immediate respect for this great American hero. I have always respected you Jocko, but this act of humility and respect made me admire you more. Good on you Sir!
I worked SPS perimeter defense at TSN in 1971 and I never heard anything about SOG.Granted I was a nothing USAF E3 but I knew a lot of things I would not admit even 50 years later. I am so grateful to hear these podcasts before I am gone.... Thank you. Robert PS I retired to Thailand 8 years ago.
Having to wait for the follow-on episodes is a true exercise in patience... Big thanks to the folks you're able to bring onto the show for sharing their incredible stories.
One of the things that impressed me each time is the humble attitude of Jocko. He is able to effectively keep the veteran talking. He asks good questions, he knows his audience and the knowledge of the people listening to the podcast. Each man interviewed is amazing in their own right. Jocko has the ability to pull the information that folks want to know. Each is a legendary man! To say thank you is the understatement of the decade. Yet I DO SAY THANK YOU, from a grateful man. 😮
57:00 crazy how he talks about gun fighter technics back than and it took all the way until the last 15 years for it to be implemented at the lowest level.
I have 2 tours in Afghanistan but these are so invaluable to even motivate me today with what I have going on in the business world. Such a powerful guest.
I was a city kid, when I turned 8, my whole family moved out to the middle of no where mountains of north east Oregon. Having never been in dark like that of pine forests and undergrowth, I was afraid of the dark. My uncle was a NAM Force Recon Marine, taught me that the darkness was my friend, how to move at night, how to hide, how to use it against others. He also taught me to shoot pistol and rifle and how to shoot both without lining up the sights first. I didn't even know the value of what he had taught me until I went into the military myself. His shadow box is on my mantle next to my grandfathers and my dads.
I grew up with NAM vets and my first book was Chicken Hawk. I read books and swim trained for a recon marine. When my time came I chose Wall Street. I have alot achievements to be proud of, and although I regret not giving it a go, now I am older, I question wether I would have survived mentally. These guys are best of breed.
I think these legends coming onto your podcast also says a lot about YOU, Jocko. You’re a legend, and clearly these incredible guys have just as much respect for you as you do for them.
I’ve been going watch all the older episodes because I watched all the newer ones. Wow so many great ones I hadn’t seen! I go to sleep at night watching and usually wake up to a new episode and watch it with my coffee. I couldn’t imagine going through what he did in Vietnam! Amazing!
Love these old SOG war horses Hardest if the hardcore. Keep’em coming How about having John Plaster on,I do believe he’s one of the SOG unit historians with 2 tours on the ground and one flying covey for SOG
Amazing, just amazing. Listened to the whole thing over a few days and didn’t want to stop to pause. Thank you for putting these podcasts up, inspirational
I’ve been bingeing these sog episodes. This was the first time I got full body chills when I heard the words “prairie fire” 🤣🤣 I couldn’t imagine the stories that will never be told.
A legend reflecting on meeting a legend. Thank you Mr. Thompson. Took the jocko podcast to a new level of clarity.... Thanks for the efforts jocko and echo... Could not stop or pause this one... Cheers
@@AMG-316 Burn, DUDE!!! Don has no control over Military engagement during his time of service. In-between Vietnam and 2001 - the average SEAL didn't see any combat.
@@AMG-316 its not like Don was controlling Foreign Policy during his tenure in the Navy. Guys served at SMUs and never saw real combat during that period.
@@sauljahboi5965 u know Don is a combat veteran right? He fought in Bosnia and liberia. That shits no joke. While serving with SEAL Team Two, Shipley conducted dozens of operations in Bosnia and Liberia. He became the first non-corpsman SEAL to graduate paramedic school. He served in eight SEAL Platoons, was Platoon Chief in five, and was awarded the Navy and Marine Corps Medal for Heroism and a Bronze star with Valor, during a Search and Rescue Mission.
Thank you. So many good life lessons here. Plus I get to know more about my Dad's life and about the experiences of a couple of my mentors. You and your guests flesh out so many details for me. Dad flew F-100s out of Danang in the summer of 1964 (duty officer for the first official combat mission for the USAF F-100 fighter, classified at the time). On his second tour, he helped set up AF combat operations at Cam Rahn in the fall of 1965 and flew the F4C Phantom through the summer of 1966. Most of his missions were on the Ho Chi Min trail on the Laotian border. He earned a DFC that tour defending an outpost faced with enemy air support. I am so grateful he always came back. A college faculty mentor was an Army Special Forces guy who lived with the Hmong people in Laos and roamed the jungle and mountains, calling in air support. I owe my doctorate to his advice and support. (My actual dissertation chair was a submariner and later an expert on Soviet databases. I seem to always have managed to have a quality military mentor in my life.) Later in my career, a colleague mentor had been Army Special Forces and had boots on the ground on the Plain of Jars when my Dad flew air support in the area (this gentleman retired as a Major General). I had the great honor of his inviting me to team-teach a leadership course for several semesters. Boy, did I learn a lot. (Another colleague was a tunnel rat. He has said precious little about that.) I greatly admire you guys and appreciate the blank check you wrote. Regardless of the popularity of any particular war. Or 'conflict' or mission. Excellence in motion.
When my father became a ranger in 1980 everyone above E4 was a Vietnam Vet lot of them were LARP or MACVSOG and they were some of the crazies soldiers he ever met most really liked Knife fighting
Couldn't resist so I already listened to the audio version and this one is definitely up there with the Tilt episodes. Podcasts with SOG guys might be the most interesting ones on this channel.
Its hunting season and i know iv missed some nice deers but love listening to this POD CAST while im in the blind to JOKCO AND ECHO AND THE REST OF THE. MEN AND WOMEN IN MILITARY THANKS FOR MY FREEDOM .
Can't get enough of these Vietnam vet interviews, great men. Shame Col. Robert L. Howard is no longer among us. He'd have made a great guest. Keep up the great work, Jocko. Thank you.
Jocko is lucky to be able to sit with these warriors. I'd love to spend time listening to them tell their story's. Thanks for the videos jocko and company!
I just have to add that I only recently discovered these podcasts if yours Jocko. This is TRULY great stuff. This interview is simply fascinating to me. Words do little to describe how much I admire these warriors and hearing their stories. Thank you so much!
SOG are the most decorated soldiers from Vietnam. All Valor. Super humble. Every mission someone gave their seat up to save their vietnamese, or Monty companions. Most died immediately after. Then they would have a bright light mission immediately after to retrieve their brothers body. Pure love. Highly recommend "Uncommon Valor" on audible. Amazing piece of work. And a great glimpse in2 the bravery, nd love these men had 4 eachother. I love Jocko for giving us perspective no matter how minutely it may be, in2 what these men sacrificed for us. Without asking for anything in return. Humbling. Thank you for my freedom.
Just hearing him talk at 1:15:30 about the amount of aircraft that would come to the SOG teams’ aid, is unreal. You must feel like the most powerful person in the world seeing all that coming to help you. Unreal
That alone should tell you all you need to now about the value of these men and the importance of every mission they were assigned. That level of assets dedicated to such a small crew is incredible!
These interviews with these Vietnam vets are just incredible, thank you to all. Jocko, as an Aussie listener, would be great to hear an interview with an Aussie vet or other country, that said you have so much content, I probably just haven't got that far through yet! 😅
J.E.D. White, Captain SAS, would make a good Aussie interview. He served with both the I COrps and II Corps MIKE Forces, and was at Ngok Tavak, a really nasty fight to evacuate a MACVSOG launch site in early 1968. His family is from northern Queensland, but I believe he lives in Brizzy. The AATT-V association would be up on his whereabouts. Saw him at the reunion in 2012, but believe he's still hanging on to the twig. Even the US Marines would love an interview with him, considering that he commanded 39 of them during the fight.
I REALLY enjoy this element of your podcasts Jocko. It's very interesting to learn about our military members. Thank you to all of you for your service.
Can’t say how much I appreciate these podcasts. Imagine if we had interviews like this from a soldier who was at the Battle of Gettysburg or who was at Lexington. So important to have these for history.
@The Recruit truly a conversation that very few would be privy to.
My college professor took us to Gettysburg. I didn’t appreciate how huge that was until maybe 10 years later.
I emailed him thanks... he’d been promoted to something like assistant dean... he responded... solid man, much respect
@@leecrotty658 - That was my thoughts on Gettysburg as well. The size of the battlefield surprised me. I'm planning on getting back there someday on doing a history video for my channel.
💯 man.. ide love to be able to hear what people from way back had to say about many things
Mike Bonter - I think about that kind of stuff often. I’ve been interviewing as many WWII, Korean War and Vietnam War vets as I can just for that reason (got a few up on my channel now). Future generations are going to have a gift with the way that history can be documented today.
hooked on SOG since John stryker. Out of 1000s podcasts ive seen --SOG is platinum! Hard to find these guys...keep their story alive!!! This is the best stuff out there
Yes Sir. Amazing
Amen ✊
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Also check out Nick Brokhausen’s books. 👍🇺🇸
My father Sergeant Mark Louis Pollock was in MACVSOG at CCN April 1971 until Dec 71. He was a One-One and eventually a One Zero on RT Mamba. He recently just passed away Oct. 11. I never heard alot of stories from him as talking about it was very difficult for him. If any sog veteran reads this and remembers him please reply to this. I knew he was a hero before these podcasts existed but these stories are absolutely mind blowing. My father once received a letter John Plaster who wrote a book on SOG asking if he wanted to add any information or stories to his book. For reasons unknown, my father declined. I guess im just looking for closure and hoping to get into contact with someone who may have served with my father. Thank you to all the SOG veterans. You are the hardest of the hard. The most underrated and unappreciated special forces group in history.
Jared Pollock try writing/emailing John Plaster or John Stryker Meyer. Good luck and I hope you find what you’re looking for... I think there are a lot of reasons the men didn’t talk about it afterward. One big reason is how they were treated upon returning. The way they were treated was wrong. They gave everything they had and then were treated like scum by the very people they were there for!
Cmon man you should have gotten him on the podcast before your old man passed. Jocko wold have been able to open him up he just didn't want to talk you about it.
Some talked about it, some didn’t. My swim coach was force recon, toughest man I ever met. He didn’t talk, but he rubbed off on me as I am sure your Father did. Be proud, and god bless.
My dad was ww2 Iwo Jima and Chosen Resovoure ( useless spell check) and later as an advisor in So Vietnam in 64 or 65 anyway he went on to mention a few things during Victory at sea program on Iwo and when a buddy would visit Sgt Major Nelson would come over and visit they would reminisce the old days.
ROBERT BLAKE He was in the pacific AND Korea! Respect!
I just binged these 3 episodes with Dick Thompson. Hands down the CRAZIEST stories I've heard. I promise, everyone needs to listen to this mans stories. I'll go my entire life without seeing HALF of the madness this man saw on one single deployment. An absolute legend.
Can never get enough of these SOG legends
B B Intelligent, amazing, men who were out of their minds. Is a better way to put it. But, yeah.
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@@dylynblue9864 well usually the baddest mfs in the world are out of their minds
As much as jocko knows/been through etc. Humble badass leader that continues tradition of warriors before him. Alpha male that identifies as such lmfao!!! Beast podcast!!
Part of it for me is Jocko's exasperated reactions to these stories.
I have no idea how 99% of ANY of these thinga go, more like 99.99%, but Jocko does and man is he shocked sometimes. Lmao
This is the one of the most engaging interviews I’ve ever seen on Jocko’s channel so far. Mr. Thompson has a way of making you feel the intensity of what he experiences in that unforgiving war. He’s the kind of guy you’d love to listen to sitting around a camp fire…
My Grandpa is the Sgt Deck he starts talking about at the 39 min mark. I've been wanting to try and get something like this podcast together of him talking about his experiences. Today Oct 24 I showed him a little bit of this and he smiled big and said yup, that's me he is talking about. So hopefully he'll warm up to the idea after slowly talking to him about it. I'd love to have his story told, and I also think it would help him. He never would talk about any of it to me. Understandably so after listening to this. These guy's are a different breed.
Put him in contact with Jocko!
That is absolutely amazing get him contact with jocko. If we are lucky we would get this gentleman and your grandfather that would excellent
Dude contact Jocko!
We need more of these!
My Grandfather was in the middle east, doing como for super secret shit. Ive mentioned these podcasts/interviews, and he's started talking more.
We MEED to know this history, the true way it happened.
Please sir, do everything in your power to contact Jocko and get your Grandfather on this. Many people would be eternally grateful.
That's awesome brother
Dick Thompson strikes me as a serious man, and not to fooled with. Much respect, sir.
Chico Peebles ya think?
I wouldnt want to be the young hotshot in an Ironman saying "Move over, Grandpa" to Dick Thompson. If he had his feet blown off, he'd chase you down on the stumps, chew your arm off and beat you to death with it.
Dick Thompson is my favorite podcast series. By far. Tilt is amazing to. These SOG stories are beyond legendary !
These SOG warriors are some of the greatest in history
@Jim King did your zip father get torched?
Jim King they have tanks and full auto weapons not pitchforks and tractors, fuck off
@Jim King Go to sleep douchebag
@@molonlabe420 What's a zip?
@@Justin_GFM ^^^
Black ops 1 unironically for me hooked on Vietnam and military history. The Vietnam War is stranger than fiction.
Same. MACVSOG has gotta be some of the most badass/crazy military history
@@hungersquid they fr some hokages
@Callan Hassan if your girlfriend is all about Instagram; chances are she isn't your girlfriend, shes OUR girlfriend
Every war is, especially MACV-SOG. Movies don’t have plots like this.
@Ana Vargas one of the best books I have ever read was called "The men with green faces" navy seal machine gunner Gene Wentz. I could not put that book down, they were some of the first original navy seals to be sent to Vietnam, Look into it.
The description of his early childhood years was both wonderful to hear and in some ways difficult…being a city boy myself…
A father and 5 uncles in the military…..
What a gift
I went to the MAC V SOG reunion 2019, was an honor to meet these GREAT MEN! thank you for allowing me to attend and seek info about my Father who did several tours with MAC V SOG!
When I joined in the early 80s we were lucky to have SOG members from Nam, and many other units who saw the shit still sprinkled through the community as instructors it took seconds to distinguish them from the others they were and remain my hero’s
same with my father 1980 to 2005 Army Ranger and finally retired as a ODA LT COl. all his sgt. and above in Ranger battalion were LARP and SOG guys Robert Howard was one of them
Yep, I was in during the 80’s and we were lucky to have several Vietnam vets still serving. My Airborne School commander was Lt. Col. Leonard B. Scott who wrote “Charlie Mike” which told a fictional account of LRRPs in Vietnam. When I attended Long Range Surveillance Leaders Course at Ft. Benning one of the instructors was a LRRP in Vietnam a wealth of knowledge even for the school’s AOIC who thought he wrote the book on long range patrols. The Vietnam vet showed the officer that the book had already been written long before in blood and sweat of vets like him.
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Wow. This guy is for real. When he talks about his tactics he goes back into full SOG operator mode. There’s a ton of stuff I learned from this interview. What a brilliant tactician. This is one of my favorites so far
I am in Walhalla, South Carolina right now. Grown up here most of my life. To hear this on Jocko podcast is truly amazing. It really is a small world.
U must be kidding , thats not supposed to be a place for living people , I feel the need to come and see it for myself
I live in walhalla to. Never herd of this great hero
My uncle lives in Seneca. Small world
These podcasts are so amazing, I'm a South African and also spend time in the military. When I listen to these great stories and get to learn so much about all these secret missions that took place. It leaves me with a feeling of admiration and respect for these great warriors. Great to listen
My Uncle Charles Whitman was in SF in 1961 and think of Him often as well as His 2 brothers who were also in Vietnam John (1968 Chu Li 20 months and Korea Pusan perimeter 1950-1951 now buried in Arlington) and Uncle Claude 1965 all my Mom's brothers and miss them all!
Dude was 19-20 and already was an officer in SOG. Clearly demonstrates that a college degree isn't necessary to be successful officer.
my father did the same thing but he went for a 2 year degree went to OCS
Not during wartime anyways
gPa Is InDiCaTiVe Of lEaDeRsHiP
No college has zip influence...High school bk then better than most SJW degrees on gender study etc worthless crap...These Dudes born Hard as Brazilian nut....
Andreas Brazier it’s indicative of being a dumbass or not. At this guys level there are plenty of guys who can fight, shoot AND are book smart, so they might as well pick those guys over the guys who are not book smart but can fight and shot well. Just saying.
Completely humbled by the bravery, gallantry and patriotism of these great American warriors. Praise God for the blessing of having them in our country fighting for freedom all over the world. God Bless America.
Around 2 hours in it is great to hear Dick talking more in depth about Eldon Bargewell. His name was mentioned by Tilt and others but Eldon was a living legend. Nick Brokhausen writes about him a lot in his first book. RIP MG Bargewell. I was shocked when I heard of his passing and the circumstances. To survive what he went thru in SOG and to die due to a riding lawn mower accident is just crazy.
These SOG guys have the best stories
I was just going to comment that it would be awesome to see a podcast with General Bargewell, unfortunately he passed away about six months ago. These SOG men are a real treasure. I am very grateful to be able to hear their stories and learn from them. Thank you Lt Commander Willink for taking the time and effort to make sure the knowledge and stories of these heros can live on and benefit future generations.
Dick Thompson is a Patriot and an exemplary human being. I am fortunate to have learned essential lessons about leadership directly from Dick. He was my first boss in organizational development. I was lucky to have cut my teeth at Dick's company, High Performing Systems.
These MAC V SOG podcasts are my favorite, I have to listen to these atleast once a week, the podcasts w John Stryker Meyer are awesome like this one.
There has to be a movie made about these men. The lessons they have passed and continue to pass to the younger generation of warriors are priceless.
I back your point up.
Macv- Sog existence is a treasure trove of valor, loyalty and leadership stories in the hardest of circumstau imaginable.
I agree, but no matter how good intenteded or accurate they'll claim the movie to be hollyweird will fuck it up.
@@hulkangry5546 either that or nobody will watch it because a critic will say the movie is completely over the top, not realizing the story was down played to keep it r-rated
We need more of them SOG heros while they are still around. More interviews of SOG members are needed.
"I am since told banana trees still tremble in that part of the world at the mere mention my name" LOL. Stress levels off the Planet.
Before that I read of four wacky stress level stories:
1. Two police officers put 120 rounds in somebody after entering the suspect's home. After running out of ammo, they went back into the car, reloaded and continued shooting at the corpse.
2. During the first Gulf War, an Apache crew was sent on a nearby scouting operation with do not fire orders. The Apache has a "you are hear map" and the crew got lost. They see a British APC next to U.S. tanks and think it's Iraqi. They try to launch a Hellfire and the safety system shut it down. The safety system was activated when the targeting laser hit the APC and the APC pinged back to the Apache that it was a friendly. The Apache crew then destroyed the safety system in order to launch the missile. The Apache crew went to prison for that.
3. New York uniformed subway cops would routinely point guns at and even shoot their undercover partners that went to the same briefings just minutes before.
4. Some police in California gassed and then attacked peaceful protesters they were monitoring at a park. It turns out that the police heard imaginary commands to tell them to disperse the crowd. Imagine what would have happened if those voices said those protesters were armed and dangerous.
@@orlock20 damn bro.... that's some heavy dope right there!!!
That was funny wasnt it? I died laughing when he said that.
@@orlock20 PS
Lol foreal man.. damn !!
Thank you Jocko for providing this platform for veteran heroes to share their stories. Our country didn't give these guys the respect they deserved when they first returned, and this podcast is part of the redemption.
If the podcast takes 3 plus hours, you give them 3 plus hours. You also "listen," which is a rare trait in humans. Most people are engaged in "bialogue," where each person is just waiting to talk, not really listening, absorbing. True dialogue is hard to come by.
Rip Frenchman, the fuel depot op he did was legendary better than Rambo
I can see Echos biceps from the next podcast from here
How about his skinny knees?
LOL, Echo was born w/nothing but biceps:)
😂😂🤣🤣
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Bathal hood one
These stories make my life so much better. The conversations saved my perspective, and you and your guests' service made it possible to live it out. There is no way to thank you all enough, other than making good use of the time we have gained from those sacrifices.
Out of all the killers that hsve been on the show, he is the most laid back about schwacking dudes AND the most ruthless. Hard ass dude. Much respect.
Dick Thompson and John Stryker Meyer have contributed to me reading everything I can find on SOG. Incredible stories and displays of bravery by these heroes.
@@tedfio1tedfio1, not yet...but The Quiet Professional is on my short liat
Dick Thompson is the personification of “speak softly and carry a big stick”
In his case, the big stick is just a diversion. He's probably rolling grenades at your feet and loading a magazine one handed at the same time.
I like that Jocko brings up the AW aspect. They should have mentioned the difference in physical training between the branches. The Army avoided weight lifting for the longest time, where SEALs and Marines adopted that training pretty early. After kicking in doors and climbing stairs with all that weight on, in Ramadi 05-06, we learned how valuable strength training is to prepare for war.
‘Life expectancy of a LT. in Vietnam was about a day and a half at that time’ Wow. And this guy still
moves in for it.
Thank You for Your service, Sir. Greetings from Norway
At twenty years old. I was saying "would you like ketchup with that".
frostyboo2 🤣🤣
I was saying “woooo I got a kill streak it’s t-bagging time”
What an incredible life this man has lived. Ultimate respect for him and anyone else that went down this path
it cracks me up how fired up jocko gets for these SOG episodes, its like listening to an excited kid
Wish there was a weekly SOG chronicles episodes. I've listened to all of them many times..
Hearing about SOG teams seems to be my favourite podcast. Crazy what they did and they were all volunteers!
thank you so much for shining the light back on sog..there is obviously a well pool of heroic and harrowing stories to be told and i personally want to know about everyone...plz bring back tilt..and thank u so much jocko and echo
Legend - loved the banter after Interview... Reminded me of banter in the Mess in my short lived Navy days.
Salute to all the Warriors.
I can only wish to have been half as useful as you Wardawgs ;)
The more stories I hear about SOG the more my stress levels go up ... this is insanity 😨these guys are the baddest of the bad ... nothing compares
I’m from the low country of South Carolina born and raised in Georgetown and it’s nice to finally see someone from my home state on here for a change this guy is awesome 👏🏻 💯
These SOG guys are something special. They just have a chip on their shoulder that puts them head and shoulders above the rest. Love it
Growing up I remember hearing rumors about what these brave warriors did. Was just a kid when the men from Vietnam were returning. Now to hear the actual accounts. Even more respect for this fading generation. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Jocko for the motivation! I got bootcamp in January for the United States Marine Corps And this is hyping me up
Godspeed out there!
Get some
kick F%^kin ASS!!!! Lance Cooly!!!:)
Set the culture of excellence yourself when you get to your MOS. Don't get lulled into following guys with slack ways and slack discipline. Always study, prepare, and lead.
if you need a rlly nice knife hit me up, my buissness I work at that my uncle owns has been making handmade knives, for 40+ years I can make you a survival, hunting, or pocket knife. :) I'd be happy to make you a awesome knife for bootcamp idk if u could bring one or not but I'll still make u one! :)
The way he recalled the events of his first time in combat and what it meant to him personally and as a soldier was great.
JOCKO YOUR PODCASTS ARE THE ONLY PODCASTS WORTH LISTENING TO. GOD BLESS TO YOU AND YOURS. AND GOD BLESS ALL VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES. AMEN.
This man was drop shoting before video games existed
SeaTato for real and for keeps.
The first thing I noticed was Jocko’s immediate respect for this great American hero. I have always respected you Jocko, but this act of humility and respect made me admire you more. Good on you Sir!
I worked SPS perimeter defense at TSN in 1971 and I never heard anything about SOG.Granted I was a nothing USAF E3 but I knew a lot of things I would not admit even 50 years later. I am so grateful to hear these podcasts before I am gone.... Thank you. Robert PS I retired to Thailand 8 years ago.
Having to wait for the follow-on episodes is a true exercise in patience... Big thanks to the folks you're able to bring onto the show for sharing their incredible stories.
You can tell there's no stopping this man. Thank you for the podcast,sir.
One of the things that impressed me each time is the humble attitude of Jocko. He is able to effectively keep the veteran talking. He asks good questions, he knows his audience and the knowledge of the people listening to the podcast. Each man interviewed is amazing in their own right. Jocko has the ability to pull the information that folks want to know. Each is a legendary man! To say thank you is the understatement of the decade. Yet I DO SAY THANK YOU, from a grateful man. 😮
Love the work you are doing!! Never let people forget The sacrifices that have been made for their freedom God bless you!! 82AA🇺🇸
Can we get another episode please!!! These legends must be remembered, It’s time for more SOG🇺🇸
This is the 6th Jocko SOGcast Ive listened to! There are quite a few more didja find em yet?! 😃💯
Thank you for doing these interviews the men are finally getting there due . The history is being saved !
True that
57:00 crazy how he talks about gun fighter technics back than and it took all the way until the last 15 years for it to be implemented at the lowest level.
I have 2 tours in Afghanistan but these are so invaluable to even motivate me today with what I have going on in the business world. Such a powerful guest.
I was a city kid, when I turned 8, my whole family moved out to the middle of no where mountains of north east Oregon. Having never been in dark like that of pine forests and undergrowth, I was afraid of the dark. My uncle was a NAM Force Recon Marine, taught me that the darkness was my friend, how to move at night, how to hide, how to use it against others. He also taught me to shoot pistol and rifle and how to shoot both without lining up the sights first. I didn't even know the value of what he had taught me until I went into the military myself. His shadow box is on my mantle next to my grandfathers and my dads.
I grew up with NAM vets and my first book was Chicken Hawk. I read books and swim trained for a recon marine. When my time came I chose Wall Street. I have alot achievements to be proud of, and although I regret not giving it a go, now I am older, I question wether I would have survived mentally. These guys are best of breed.
I think these legends coming onto your podcast also says a lot about YOU, Jocko. You’re a legend, and clearly these incredible guys have just as much respect for you as you do for them.
I’ve been going watch all the older episodes because I watched all the newer ones. Wow so many great ones I hadn’t seen! I go to sleep at night watching and usually wake up to a new episode and watch it with my coffee. I couldn’t imagine going through what he did in Vietnam! Amazing!
Love these old SOG war horses
Hardest if the hardcore.
Keep’em coming
How about having John Plaster
on,I do believe he’s one of the SOG unit historians with 2 tours on the ground and one flying covey for SOG
Amazing, just amazing. Listened to the whole thing over a few days and didn’t want to stop to pause.
Thank you for putting these podcasts up, inspirational
Thank you Mr. Thompson for your courage and thank the lord you came back
I’ve been bingeing these sog episodes. This was the first time I got full body chills when I heard the words “prairie fire” 🤣🤣 I couldn’t imagine the stories that will never be told.
A legend reflecting on meeting a legend.
Thank you Mr. Thompson.
Took the jocko podcast to a new level of clarity....
Thanks for the efforts jocko and echo...
Could not stop or pause this one...
Cheers
Id love to see a sit down with Don Shipley.
I'm sure they know each other
Why, I thought Jocko only had combat veterans on?
@@AMG-316
Burn, DUDE!!!
Don has no control over Military engagement during his time of service. In-between Vietnam and 2001 - the average SEAL didn't see any combat.
@@AMG-316 its not like Don was controlling Foreign Policy during his tenure in the Navy.
Guys served at SMUs and never saw real combat during that period.
@@sauljahboi5965 u know Don is a combat veteran right? He fought in Bosnia and liberia. That shits no joke.
While serving with SEAL Team Two, Shipley conducted dozens of operations in Bosnia and Liberia. He became the first non-corpsman SEAL to graduate paramedic school. He served in eight SEAL Platoons, was Platoon Chief in five, and was awarded the Navy and Marine Corps Medal for Heroism and a Bronze star with Valor, during a Search and Rescue Mission.
Thank you. So many good life lessons here. Plus I get to know more about my Dad's life and about the experiences of a couple of my mentors. You and your guests flesh out so many details for me. Dad flew F-100s out of Danang in the summer of 1964 (duty officer for the first official combat mission for the USAF F-100 fighter, classified at the time). On his second tour, he helped set up AF combat operations at Cam Rahn in the fall of 1965 and flew the F4C Phantom through the summer of 1966. Most of his missions were on the Ho Chi Min trail on the Laotian border. He earned a DFC that tour defending an outpost faced with enemy air support. I am so grateful he always came back. A college faculty mentor was an Army Special Forces guy who lived with the Hmong people in Laos and roamed the jungle and mountains, calling in air support. I owe my doctorate to his advice and support. (My actual dissertation chair was a submariner and later an expert on Soviet databases. I seem to always have managed to have a quality military mentor in my life.) Later in my career, a colleague mentor had been Army Special Forces and had boots on the ground on the Plain of Jars when my Dad flew air support in the area (this gentleman retired as a Major General). I had the great honor of his inviting me to team-teach a leadership course for several semesters. Boy, did I learn a lot. (Another colleague was a tunnel rat. He has said precious little about that.) I greatly admire you guys and appreciate the blank check you wrote. Regardless of the popularity of any particular war. Or 'conflict' or mission. Excellence in motion.
like a real life rambo. it’s so cool to listen to and know that it’s real
Hearing the job description for these men made me sit down for a moment. Grateful, that's the word I feel.
The men featured in these podcasts as well as Jocko and Echo are all Superheroes in my opinion my hats off to you Gentlemen ♥️
When my father became a ranger in 1980 everyone above E4 was a Vietnam Vet lot of them were LARP or MACVSOG and they were some of the crazies soldiers he ever met most really liked Knife fighting
Couldn't resist so I already listened to the audio version and this one is definitely up there with the Tilt episodes. Podcasts with SOG guys might be the most interesting ones on this channel.
onlycasual1 R and R is going to be even better! It’s crazy.
these guys are still the ultimate soldier the world has produced hands down
Its hunting season and i know iv missed some nice deers but love listening to this POD CAST while im in the blind to JOKCO AND ECHO AND THE REST OF THE. MEN AND WOMEN IN MILITARY THANKS FOR MY FREEDOM .
Holy shit. This has to be one of the best and intense podcasts I have listened to. Immediately went out and bought his book.
This is the 3rd time watching this. I hope jocko interviews as many sog as possible before time takes them away from us. Its the best!!!
Can't get enough of these Vietnam vet interviews, great men. Shame Col. Robert L. Howard is no longer among us. He'd have made a great guest. Keep up the great work, Jocko. Thank you.
Jocko is lucky to be able to sit with these warriors. I'd love to spend time listening to them tell their story's. Thanks for the videos jocko and company!
I absolutely love the SOG guys! I emailed tilt and he replied to me. Very good men. Amazing men!
Picked my phone up and boom this is here. Something to listen to while I clean out the garage.
I love the SOG podcasts
"ya know sometimes if they didn't wanna cooperate,they could get terminated" 😂😂😂😂
I just have to add that I only recently discovered these podcasts if yours Jocko. This is TRULY great stuff. This interview is simply fascinating to me. Words do little to describe how much I admire these warriors and hearing their stories. Thank you so much!
You guys are really getting the story of MACV-SOG out there! It is great!
I can listen to these guys all day everyday.
I truly love to sit and listen to this type of podcast straight up awesome jocko!
SOG are the most decorated soldiers from Vietnam. All Valor. Super humble. Every mission someone gave their seat up to save their vietnamese, or Monty companions. Most died immediately after. Then they would have a bright light mission immediately after to retrieve their brothers body. Pure love. Highly recommend "Uncommon Valor" on audible. Amazing piece of work. And a great glimpse in2 the bravery, nd love these men had 4 eachother. I love Jocko for giving us perspective no matter how minutely it may be, in2 what these men sacrificed for us. Without asking for anything in return. Humbling. Thank you for my freedom.
This is a great resource for actiuve duty soldiers. I wish I had access to this interview and the other SOG interviews before I deployed in 2011.
When I hear one of these guys say they are from SC, my heart swells with pride. My state has produced some amazing warriors.
Francis Marion, The Swamp Fox...
Just listened to this great podcast, I’m only here to see what this Legend Dick Thompson looks like.
Just hearing him talk at 1:15:30 about the amount of aircraft that would come to the SOG teams’ aid, is unreal. You must feel like the most powerful person in the world seeing all that coming to help you. Unreal
That alone should tell you all you need to now about the value of these men and the importance of every mission they were assigned. That level of assets dedicated to such a small crew is incredible!
These interviews with these Vietnam vets are just incredible, thank you to all.
Jocko, as an Aussie listener, would be great to hear an interview with an Aussie vet or other country, that said you have so much content, I probably just haven't got that far through yet! 😅
J.E.D. White, Captain SAS, would make a good Aussie interview. He served with both the I COrps and II Corps MIKE Forces, and was at Ngok Tavak, a really nasty fight to evacuate a MACVSOG launch site in early 1968. His family is from northern Queensland, but I believe he lives in Brizzy. The AATT-V association would be up on his whereabouts. Saw him at the reunion in 2012, but believe he's still hanging on to the twig. Even the US Marines would love an interview with him, considering that he commanded 39 of them during the fight.
I REALLY enjoy this element of your podcasts Jocko. It's very interesting to learn about our military members. Thank you to all of you for your service.
Dammit, wasn't aware the Doug had passed away. Glad he was able to be on the podcast with Tilt