no, trans kids shouldn’t transition. here’s why.
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- 00:00 things haven't been great
00:54 insecurities
03:18 the role of mental illness
05:04 men don't smile
05:47 human connection is harder
06:55 appearances can be deceiving
08:24 relationships are more complicated
08:57 "trans kids" should not transition
13:31 outro
Hi, my name is Elle. I’m a 23 year old woman who lived as a man and took testosterone from ages 16-19. If you think kids should be allowed to transition, fight me in my twitter mentions.
at 09:02: "Trans kids’ treatment can start younger, new guidelines say" apnews.com/article/gender-tra...
at 09:46, 10:12 "Kayla Lovdahl has already transitioned and detransitioned at 18 - and now she’s taking her doctors to court" nypost.com/2023/06/20/kids-sh...
at 10:27 "More Americans now know transgender people, but most still don’t seem to understand them" www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/m...
at 10:56 "How common is transgender treatment regret, detransitioning?" apnews.com/article/transgende...
at 11:56 "Sweden puts brakes on treatments for trans minors: Sweden, the first country to introduce legal gender reassignment, has begun restricting gender reassignment hormone treatments for minors, as it, like many Western countries, grapples with the highly-sensitive issue." www.france24.com/en/live-news...
at 12:10: "B.C. Court of Appeal decision a mixed outcome for trans teen and disapproving father: Teen's right to hormone treatment reaffirmed, but father misgendering son not considered 'family violence'" www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...
at 12:17: "New York advises schools to accept student gender identity, keep secret from parents in some cases" news.yahoo.com/york-advises-s...
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We must teach kids that it's perfectly normal being a more masculine or more feminine type boy or girl without having to leave your sex category!
No we help kids when they need gender affirming care instead of forcing them in a box just so you feel more comfortable
@@gaybatgosqueak You are defending a pedo and medical mutilation of kids agenda. Shame on you.
👍🏼❣️ absolutely!!!!
When I was about 8/9 , I was what was called a “Tom boy” and I didn’t care back in the 70’s and 80’s, but it puts fear in my heart for what could have happened to me(especially since there were other developing issues concerning my emotional &mental & physical health due to reasons I won’t go into here)
but I became a disaster for years, until by ages 17/18 I had sought out therapy and got out of my family of origin and now only have minor issues to cope with that didn’t derail my life.
It scares me what would have occurred if I was that child/teen today. 💔
This is such a common thing for people with this kind of take on the trans community. It's very rare for them to not bring it back to themselves and be like oh if I were a kid now, I can't imagine what they would do to me.
I don't like it when transphobes be like oh whoa me poor me, I could have been shoved on hormones when I were a kid nowadays because that's not happening. You wouldn't have been told and you won't be told you're a bot just because you're a girl who enjoys some stereotypically masculine hobbies, activities or expression. That's not how it works.
What's happening is that kids who are a gender different from the one they were assigned are expressing this to people, and if they're lucky they're then getting access to trans related healthcare, which for a majority of kids will start and finish with counseling and socially transitioning and expressing themselves how they want and then for a very small number they will have access to puberty blockers.
The thought that as like a teenager, somebody might have forced you go through the wrong puberty, does that not elicit some kind of compassion for the trans community because that's literally advocating happens to trans kids, that they are forced to go through the wrong puberty, that they are denied access to the healthcare that they need.
We are affirming cis kids, why can't we affirm trans kids? I mean there's many, there's many questions asked. But again, I'm bringing back to the point of like we listen to cis kids , so why don't we listen to trans kids? I mean a ton more trans kids go through the wrong puberty and therefore have to have certain surgeries to reverse that then cis kids do going through the wrong puberty by transitioning and detransitioning.
Only cis kids are trustworthy when it comes to their gender apparently. By that logic, shouldn't we therefore be trusting any kids about their gender at any point and so therefore not allowing any child ever to go through any kind of permanent change in terms of their gender until they are old enough to know it? Which means every kid should be on puberty blockers, right? I'm absolutely noy saying that should happen, it shouldn't, it just where that logic is taking things.
Tomboy here!! I'm 47 and have been a tomboy ever since I could walk. I grew up with 3 brothers and wanted to be like them. I started playing hockey at 5 years old.... one of the first girls in my state to want to join a boys' hockey league! I never wore dresses, dressed in sweats, jeans, and t-shirts, barely ever wore makeup, and only hung out with boys. My mom cried when I wore dresses!! 🤣🤣
Now I've been married for 25 years, have 2 boys, and my hubby and kids love that I'm a tomboy! I taught all of them how to play hockey and when I do wear makeup and dress up girlish, my husband is amazed, and other things! 🤪🤪
I'm glad you are happy, healthy, and are telling your story. Much love!! ❤❤
I am 62 years old and a gay woman. I have had a deep voice as long as I can remember and I never thought I wanted to be a man. Thank you for your candor and honesty. Come out as gay in 1977. I know the shit and have had more than my share of catastrophic issues. I lost a daughter that I never met.
(g.y woman, 69 years old) you will see the results of your choices and beliefs in life, like everybody else.
good luck.😁
How did you have a daughter if you were gay? If you don’t mind me asking with respect.
@@No_name860most gay people, especially ones from times it was much less accepted than now, will try to have straight relationship, often even getting married because it's what they're supposed to do and like. This most often led to very unhappy relationships and a lot of personal problems
In your case, and I suspect in the case of many Trans people, it isn't so much an issue of gender identity, but IDENTITY.
Well put. Not only the minors identity is an issue, but often the parents as well.A very interesting 1991 study examined, not the trans patients themselves, but their mothers.
The study showed that mothers of gender dysphoric children have MASSIVELY high rates of mental illness. Specifically Borderline personality disorder and depression.
This pilot study compared mothers of boys with gender identity disorder (GID) with mothers of cis boys to determine whether differences in psychopathology and child-rearing attitudes and practices could be identified. Results of the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines and the Beck Depression Inventory revealed that mothers of boys with GID had more symptoms of depression and far more often met the criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder than the controls. FIFTY-THREE PERCENT of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory. Results of the Summers and Walsh Symbiosis Scale suggested that mothers of probands had child-rearing attitudes and practices that encouraged symbiosis and discouraged the development of autonomy.
See"Mothers of boys with gender identity disorder: a comparison of matched controls" Sonia Marantz and Susan Coates
There is provable, observable reality; and then there's your so-called "identity." Get offline lol. Live in the real world. 😊
Absolutely... I wonder what the percentage is of people that want to transition that are autistic or have Borderline personality disorder... Where your identity and sense of connecting to others is damaged
@@tiffany3294 A very interesting 1991 study examined, not the trans patients themselves, but their mothers.
The study showed that mothers of gender dysphoric children have MASSIVELY high rates of mental illness. Specifically Borderline personality disorder and depression.
This pilot study compared mothers of boys with gender identity disorder (GID) with mothers of cis boys to determine whether differences in psychopathology and child-rearing attitudes and practices could be identified. Results of the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines and the Beck Depression Inventory revealed that mothers of boys with GID had more symptoms of depression and far more often met the criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder than the controls. FIFTY-THREE PERCENT of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory. Results of the Summers and Walsh Symbiosis Scale suggested that mothers of probands had child-rearing attitudes and practices that encouraged symbiosis and discouraged the development of autonomy.
See"Mothers of boys with gender identity disorder: a comparison of matched controls" Sonia Marantz and Susan Coates
It's very high. Our culture does not have many children who were raised by a stay at home mother, there is an entire generation of children raised by early childhood centers as early as six months then in school's for their entire childhoods. Children of parents with BPD, do not form secure attachments. Children raised in childcare institutions also have these issues. We knew this was the case for children raised in residential schools, and orphanages. Foster care can be worse, depending who you are placed with. That is an interesting study. I hope further information is gathered on what the mothers and fathers childcare use was and if that played a role at all.
More De-Transitioners should tell their story whether LGBT wants to hear it or not.
Wtf does that even mean? 😂 Jack a*s
I’m sure convos over the phone are the worst. You look so much healthier and I’m so happy and grateful for your videos. Your voice is actually very cool.
In high school I saw a lot of my peers that were impatient to transition as though they believed if they didn't do so as soon as possible they would change their minds. Many of these kids are not actually trans. The romanization of transgenderism is a serious problem in our society.
agreed. honestly i think being transgender is 90% of the time is just someone trying to pin their other problems on just thinking theyre trans when theres a whole other problem. its dumb.
It’s become a trend
@@mandorasbox Transtrenders.
It's worse, it is a cult
@@tonyhoffman3309 Yep. Worse than scientology.
I also can't stand that people don't see this as a big issue. Trying to have an earnest conversation and not being able to get through a sentence without being compared to Trump or the far right is just about the most infuriating thing in the world. Especially when you're not even right wing.
You don’t sound anything like a trans woman. Trust me. I am in New Jersey & have known very many deep voiced women. Try not to worry about it so much. Even with short hair I can still see & feel you are a woman. I am a hair dresser & have had short hair many times & I have rather deep voice at times. My voice got deeper from carrying my son at 20 years old. Thanks for making a video checking in with us. Ignore the haters as usual. With the state of the world sometimes crying every day makes sense. We’re here for you.
You brought up great points. I’m glad you are willing to share your story. I’m so sorry for what you went through and are going through. ❤
I transitioned 11 years ago to female. I'll be honest, its been a mixed bag. I am content in my own skin, and being seen and going through life as female. But I think people need to know that its not rainbows and unicorns. The grass is equally shitty on the other side. You're exchanging one set of problems for another. Hopefully they are ones you can handle.
It will show you who your friends really are because you will lose some. Maybe even get disowned by family. Most marriages dont survive transition. Mine didnt. None of my friends marriages lasted. So it can be a lonely experience. In fact, being lonely is something I see a lot of friends talk about a lot. When I begun my transition I did a ton of research about what I was getting into. You have to weigh the pros and cons for you. Not anyone else. Dont do this for the wrong reasons. Dont try to bypass the hoops you have to jump through to get onto hormones or surgeries. And dont be in a rush to get everything done as fast as you can. Ask yourself, "Am I at peace now?"
You dont have to have every kind of surgery out there to be content.
Oh wow Elle, I’ve watched you throughout your UA-cam career. How far you’ve come! Your confidence has increased so much.
It’s cool to hear from you again. I hope your videos help others who are struggling with the same insecurities or at least let them know they aren’t alone.
God bless you. Just remember you are not your body, your voice, or your appearance💝 No one fits into a box because we're all absolutely unique to ourselves and there's no one in the world like you (which is good!).
You know, a lot of women have a deep voice naturally. I don’t like my voice because I have a real heavy country accent. A lot of people think I’m drunk it’s took me five years to convince UA-cam I’m not drunk. I am happy. I have a voice everyone does not. ❤️
I started out as a ftm. I was on hormones 3 years like yourself. I had to get off Bc I was losing my hair and I developed major spike in my mental illness on T. I even got in trouble with the law Bc I couldn’t express myself or cry- so I drank during the pandemic. Your videos helped me get off hormones even tho I didn’t want to. Been off hormones almost 2.5 years. I still pass a male. I identify as male still, but I present androgynously. I wasn’t able to look as femme as you- I was a very very masculine woman as it was. You look female to me! don’t be hard on yourself. You went through this journey for a reason. The stare you are taking about I get too. But who cares! Act like you are the main character Bc you are.
Well said❣️
I hope you find your peace in the difficulties you’ve overcome and the once’s that may linger. I hope and pray I live long enough to see this terrifying movement do a 180°
Elle, I have followed you for years and have always admired your sincerity and desire to help people. My heart breaks for you that you are still struggling emotionally. Thank you so much for speaking out, it’s more brave than ever for you to do that in this intolerant climate. But your message needs to be heard. Thank you for continuing to deliver it. I wish you all the best. ❤️
I watched your videos way back when you first de-transitioned. I hadn’t seen any in a long time and this one just popped up in my feed. It was great to see you again and I am glad you made another video. I wish you all of the best! You have great courage - stay strong! You are truly an amazing young woman! ❤😊
Thankyou for all you've done...and...things take time when you are recovering from trauma :(. My aunt always had a low voice and she was a model (even in vogue), super feminine....but you don't have to be anything except you, however you want to be. And no matter what you do, some people will get it wrong--what you are doesn't depend on them--but you must be so tired. Hang in there, and thank you for all you've done...get rest, get strong, things will get better, you've been through so much trauma and betrayal ...when you were so so young...it will take time to grow around and beyond it.❤
It's great to see you post a new video.
It's so good to see you again!❤
Elle,
I know nothing I can say will really help how you feel but I want to say thank you for being so vulnerable and honest. It's so hard when you're expected to be a beacon of positivity all the time and I admit, when I first started watching your channel I was drawn in by that, you had this bright sunny optimistic energy that was just addictive and made me so happy. But we expect that from people way too much. We can't always be like that, and it's okay to say 'I made a mistake, I'm unhappy with my life, but I'm going to fight every day to at least tolerate it and get better'. It's not exactly the same thing but for years of my life I convinced myself it was okay to eat all the fast food I did and eat above my recommended caloric intake because of the fat positivity movement. But now I'm in my late twenties and struggling to lose weight because my metabolism is slowing down, and when I do I know I'm going to have the excess skin to deal with.
I just think you're a very strong person but you don't always have to feel strong. It's okay to feel mad and defeated. From one twentysomething year old woman to another, we'll be okay. I promise.
♥️👍🏼
elle I'm so glad to hear from you again I hope you're doing well
Great to see you again Elle.
More people need to know your story and the continual evolution of it xxxxx
I’ve just been back and listened to one of your first de-transitioning videos and you’ve made massive progress with your voice, Elle! I know that’s been one your biggest bugbears but you honestly have a mature-sounding female voice now so you’ve no need to despair🥰
As a self identifying detransitioner (I never actually took hormones) I completely identify with you on this. It’s even more distressing to have this constantly brought up because I want to move as far away from that chapter of my life as possible
It is a big deal. Your speaking out is powerful.
Nice to see you again, Elle! Great video, such an important topic!
I don’t think you look like a trans woman, Elle. Your voice is a little deep but you are unmistakably female - and pretty! ❤ Thank you so much for speaking out! 🙏🏼
I am so sorry this happened to you. But your input hopefully will help other people thinking of doing this. God bless and keep up the good work.
This is so important. Puberty is daunting, especially so, I think, for girls. I fear what a lot of my peers would’ve done if presented with a tantalizing “off switch.” I suspect that a lot of young girls who start down the road of puberty blockers don’t truly want to become men, they just don’t want to become women. We don’t communicate to young people enough that everyone in adolescence feels like their body is “wrong.” Everyone.
Thank you for sharing this!
much love to you - thanks for speaking out ❤
Amazing for you to come out publicly with your story. The voices of detransitioners should also be heard. Thanks for sharing!!
Thank you for spreading the word!!
I love your views Elle!! ❤ I've watched you for years kiddo and my have you grown into a smart young lady. 🌻 Keep it up.
8:35 I feel you. I always have this conversation, when I HAVE TO explain everything just to avoid any misunderstanding. And all that because of my voice.
Thank you Elle. As always you are a great inspiration.
at 09:02: "Trans kids’ treatment can start younger, new guidelines say" apnews.com/article/gender-transition-treatment-guidelines-9dbe54f670a3a0f5f2831c2bf14f9bbb
at 09:46, 10:12 "Kayla Lovdahl has already transitioned and detransitioned at 18 - and now she’s taking her doctors to court" nypost.com/2023/06/20/kids-shouldnt-undergo-irreversible-gender-transition-surgeries/
at 10:27 "More Americans now know transgender people, but most still don’t seem to understand them" www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/more-americans-now-know-transgender-people-but-most-still-dont-seem-to-understand-them
at 10:56 "How common is transgender treatment regret, detransitioning?" apnews.com/article/transgender-treatment-regret-detransition-371e927ec6e7a24cd9c77b5371c6ba2b
at 11:56 "Sweden puts brakes on treatments for trans minors: Sweden, the first country to introduce legal gender reassignment, has begun restricting gender reassignment hormone treatments for minors, as it, like many Western countries, grapples with the highly-sensitive issue." www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230208-sweden-puts-brakes-on-treatments-for-trans-minors
at 12:10: "B.C. Court of Appeal decision a mixed outcome for trans teen and disapproving father: Teen's right to hormone treatment reaffirmed, but father misgendering son not considered 'family violence'" www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-appeal-court-trans-teen-1.5423577
at 12:17: "New York advises schools to accept student gender identity, keep secret from parents in some cases" news.yahoo.com/york-advises-schools-accept-student-120005059.html
Thanks for watching everyone :) missed ya
Good for you, you powerful, honest, admirable woman. Being a woman is not a performance. You are who you are and you are perfect.
You’re not alone. I know it feels like it but there are so many of us out here who get it. ♥️ you are the best at explaining and expressing yourself on this. I appreciate you so much. You are totally right about the magnitude of the mess medical /political has made of things for your generation and we need to keep getting louder and there are more people even in my life coming to the realisation of the reality that some have forgotten in their ignorance and blind obedience of authority.
Hugs Dear Elle💜
Kimberly
I’m in a similar situation but had too surgery. I was extremely lazy with taking my T so I think that helped in some areas but yeah it’s tough. I’m into women and yeah dating while trans sucked bc girls would think I’m a guy then I’d just have to disappear and not pursue anything out of fear of having the conversation. Im tall but always have a very feminine face but it passed just fine with my masculine body. Now I just wanna go back to being a masculine female. I do think for me losing a good amount of weight would help me ten fold like 30 pounds. My voice isn’t too deep and I barley got facial hair just under my chin really and a little body hair I finally nair-ed off. I haven’t done anything to present differently just stopped hormones at the start of the year and am going from there I don’t really care about everyone else of what they see me as just hope I’ll eventually look female enough for my dating life now that I’m single after a super long relationship ending.
To be fair I knew some women, including some that are lesbian’s coincidently, that have natural deep voices, in my country we have a famous female singer that got a much deeper voice than you and have an amazing singing voice, I think is because nowadays you can’t go 5 mins without hearing the word trans that everybody is too much absorbed on the subject, back in my young days I knew a lot of trans women and that never a bathroom problem, only because they were proper trans women, back in the day there was no option of identify as trans, you needed very long time on therapy, doctors diagnosis you as trans , not affirm what u think you are , and those trans only started to mix with women when they were fully transitioned to a degree that most biological women didn’t feel threatened if they were even able to notice the difference, nowadays being trans became like the Emo phase in my younger years , is what you do to be trending , even if you don’t have the courage to transition you can just go non-binary and get the adoration and praise as if you were trans , the fact that now you can just say you are something and you automatically are is the problem, the fact that young women became the bait of this ideology is also scary , because trans men was infinitive minor community than trans women and because social contagion affects more young women this is happening , we all hate our bodies when we are teens , be teen and gay and a woman is a lot to process in a brain that is not even fully developed yet , im a gay man over 40 and things got way out of hand, especially when women rights and kids concerne , you don’t fix mental health issues by become a pharmaceutical cobaia for the rest of your life, transition was always the last resort before many years of growing up and therapy was done first
Thank you for everything!
Oh Elle... If you look at back then verses now you've come so far on the long road of personal growth and recovery. You look, "present", and whatever the words are kids use these days as a woman you are.
Welcome to adulthood... Everyone is struggling to appear to have their lives all together... You're probably ahead of the game
Thanks for talking about this. I know people who have not been through detransition can also discuss why kids shouldn't transition, but I think it's more powerful when people like yourself say, "No. Kids shouldn't transition." I really think the integration of male and female characteristics is best for most people. There may be a small amount of people whom transition is right for, but they should wait until they're adults so they can research the issue thoroughly and give informed consent. This is a complicated decision and not something to play around with. Thanks for speaking out about this topic.
Perhaps you have not listened to many of the accounts of trans people who say that they identified with kids of the opposite sex at a very early age, even as early as age three. Many of their parents state that their kid was persistent about this for many years. The current far-right campaign, against trans people's rights, are not covering that aspect of transitioning. Their propaganda campaign presents extremely rare cases in their attempts to get the general public to legally limit the rights of transgender people. They turned their ire against trans people when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against their campaign to block same sex marriage.
Well said
Elle, I just want to say thank you for documenting and sharing your thoughts with the world. I am not trans but I was once a teenager and young adult who so heavily subscribed to far left LGBTQ+ ideology without even thinking about it in detail. I was just validating everything really and of course because I was young and still developing. Now I am 24 and I’ve had a big shift on what I think.
My point in saying this is that I think it is so incredibly sad that detransitioners don’t really have much of a community atmosphere. From what I’ve seen and heard, you all share this experience of feeling confused or more alone after de transitioning because of the resistance in society to speak the truth about the issues with this extreme almost like a one-size fits all ideology.
I think it’s so important that you are sharing your thoughts because one of the most valuable things about social media (although it is a double edged sword) is that people from all over the world can find community.
Specifically here on UA-cam, so many people talk about how helpful it is for others to share their experiences because it helped them know that they weren’t alone in their feelings. In fact, it’s the reason why I was able to evolve and solidify my thoughts as they occur now because there are people who are not afraid to speak about things that have banned strongly discouraged on todays society.
I hope that detransitioners will find you and you all can create a community in which it’s safe to talk about your experiences and not feel judged or alone because I truly want that for you and others.
Lastly, I want to say that woman to woman, even though you feel like you’re struggling with the after affects of transitioning, you are still a woman. Nothing will ever change that and I know that you will one day be at peace. Just know, life is full of opportunities and womanhood is not a monolith. Imo, woman is quite literally who I am but it is not just femininity or masculinity. It’s is both and it manifests differently. You don’t have to look one way or another, you are a woman, maybe more masculine, maybe more feminine, maybe androgynous. We are all different, it’s okay, your story may differ from mine but I see you ❤
Take care and again, thank you for sharing with us
I'm so sorry you've been through this
I think more along the lines of "life is a mess"....mine is anyway! But I wouldn't swap the mess, tears, snot, laughter, colour, anguish, ups, downs, lows, highs for a picture perfect homogenous existence for anything. Sending you some encouragement from across the waves xx
Commenting to boost ur engagement because everyone needs to see this
Thank you for this video, my son has joined in this madness and is now not living with me, barely responds to my texts. I wish I could show him this video but he will only push me away more. 💔
I hear you♥️❤️🩹
That's the cult for you. Sorry to read that
Good for you for putting yourself out there and telling the truth. ❤️👏
You look wonderful! You are glowing!
Thank you for this Video ❤
I don't think you should feel insecure about your looks. You look fine. You don't have to please everybody. Put it this way, Some people like beans and some people don't. ♥
I'm a cisgender woman and the only time when men smile at me in a friendly sort of way is when I'm at the gym. It's not a you thing. I honestly don't know why men stare at us deadpan lolll. You definitely look like a cisgender woman and your personality shows that too. I know you said your voice is an insecurity but I'm sure it can come back or there are things you can do for it. And if not, that's ok! I think you're awesome regardless. You seem like such a beautiful person. I see you as a woman and great person and I'm sure other people see that too. Keep fighting ❤
I notice a big difference in your voice since I started following you. You look and sound great!
Girl, your voice ia waaaaay better than in your first video. Like, I was really surprised and happy how much better.
You look and sound more feminine than your videos in years past, and I find you quite attractive in fact. To me, your voice is a totally negligible detail in that attraction, and actually just makes you more interesting.
Not sure if I've ever commented, but I always enjoy hearing these updates from you. I appreciate and agree with pretty much all of your perspectives. The gender nonsense is absolutely off the rails at this point, and I do think many proponents of genderizing everything under the sun are starting to realize that and take a step back.
I understand the mental health struggle, and I hope you make progress accepting yourself and getting more comfortable in your own skin. My prediction is that you will experience a quantum leap in that process of self-acceptance someday soon, and it will happen almost automatically. You will simply let go, forgive yourself, and focus on all that you can enjoy about life. People's perception of you, or your desired projection of yourself, will be irrelevant. Just my prediction, who knows, we'll see :)
It’s hard as a female to find good female friends.
THANK YOU! ❤
The key is to stop worrying about how you come off or what people think. No one but you matters.
Thank you for talking about this. You are a lovely young woman. Keep up the good work.❤
God bless you for speaking out.
I feel children are too young to realize the impact of an enormous decision on changing their sex will have on their lives. They still are very innocent and haven’t experienced life yet. Until you are mature enough and I don’t know what age it would be.
I’m sure there are little girls that long to be a litter boy or boy to girl but it could just be dressing that way or doing things the opposite sex does. I just think it’s really been taken too far. They need to learn to embrace who they are not what they aren’t.
I am a minor. I came out as transgender at the age of 12, and have been in therapy since i was 11. I also have autism and a generalized anxiety disorder. I have had four years to reflect on my identity, my choices, and my feelings. I will never have a normal life. I was bullied since kindergarten, and will never fit into normal society. I am surrounded by smart, responsible adults, parents, teachers, doctors, and mental health professionals who have spent the past four years working with me to determine if and when it would be a good decision for me to start hormone therapy.
When I was 15, we determined it would be safe and beneficial for me to start taking a low dose testosterone treatment. The 5 months i was undergoing that treatment, I experienced significant improvements in my mental health, social life, confidence, and executive function. I recently have paused my treatment for two different reasons first, I do hate having my life medicalized. I have a needle aversion. But this isn’t unique to my transition. I feel the same about my anxiety medication and adhd medication. Saying that this is unique to minors undergoing hrt ignores minors who have to take any medication. You wouldn’t say that about diabetic people. They have to take that medicine. And there are some trans minors who are in similar situations. I won’t pretend it is common, and certainly not most. But I personally know minors who are undergoing the same treatment as me who would have died if not for this treatment. The second reason I am not currently undergoing hrt is that I wanted to ensure it was the right path for me. I wanted to do introspection without the influence of my treatment. During these past four months I have felt worse about myself, my grades have slipped, and my anxiety and autism symptoms are worse. I will be going back on my hormone treatment this weekend. My friends, family, and adults in my life have been concerned for me. This is the right decision for me. It will ensure, while I will never have a normal childhood, and never could have, that I will not have the burden of crippling dysphoria and exacerbated mental health symptoms. My childhood is not normal, but with therapy, hrt, anxiety and adhd medications, it can be peaceful and happy. I want to be happy.
Whether minors should be able to access medical treatment of this nature is a complicated issue, that should be settled with their parents, doctors, and years of therapy. I can’t answer that question for anyone other than myself. But saying that you can, is stupid. You do not know every trans minor. You don’t know how they feel, and what decisions are going to ensure the best outcome for them. Sometimes minors will undergo medical abuse. Sometimes that will be related to transition. But quite often, children who have had social or medical transition withheld from them will suffer and die. Saying that no minor should ever transition is ingenuine and incondusive to many minor’s best interests. As is saying that we should give every minor access to whatever treatments they request. This is an extremely case by case basis, but that is every medical and social decision. Your bad experience should not cause you to take actions that if disrupted my transition, would ruin my life. That’s not fair to me.
I am so sorry that you made a decision you thought was best for you with the information that you had. No one should have to go through what you did. But no one should have to go through what my dead trans friends did either. This is the world we live in. Please don’t make it worse.
Well said
I wish you a happy and prosperous path ahead ♥
You're going to end up like Elle unless you change your life.
Stop transitioning before its too late.
i dont doubt that you're going to regret your choices to change your body.
@Badookum. There is no too late! I love my body, in whatever form it takes. The medicine I take is getting me through high school, I think I'd regret flunking out more. I have a whole life to live. I could get a tattoo, plastic surgery, or a piercing,. I could get into a car crash, get pregnant, get diabetes, or need an amputation. All of those things could change my body. Life is full of changes, good and bad, natural and unnatural. The most important thing is to accept your body how it is as those changes arrive. Making decisions is part of life. Stripping others of their decisions, especially ones that are traditionally between doctors and patients is wrong.
@@averybutdifferent5294 Might as well just start doing meth at this point.
Thank you for sharing. Can you sue your doctor?
You can help so many young people, Elle.
You are a powerful and moving voice in this world! Thank you for sharing it ❤
I am so glad you uploaded a video. I followed your story from the beginning. You look beautiful. Sometimes time is not a healer, sadly. Both my kids deal with depression and anxiety and unfortunately there is no quick fix for it. Adults can transition if they want but leave kids alone. Years from now we will see what a horrible experiment this has been on kids.
Love your hair, it grew very quick…
I assumed you were born male and transitioned to female - because of your voice. When you said you used to take testosterone my jaw dropped. The medical community needs to be more responsible & ethical. A 17 year old can’t get an abortion without parental consent but she can have her breasts removed at 17. Make it make sense.
You sweet, brave girl. We are all behind you.
I watch Buck Angel here on UA-cam. I love his clarity and honesty in talking about this subject. I distrust information from commentators on both conservative and liberal political stances, because their politics are more important to them than people.
same here
Thank you for sharing your story. I've been reading and listening to videos about similar stories. It makes me so sad. Elle you are beautiful. Your life is of value, I hope you find a peace that only God can give.
this is SO important. i hope this video goes around for many many people to see. thank you for being a voice of reason. ♡
I started following you a few years ago at a time in my life where I questioning if I was trans, and I related to you a lot. Obviously, gender identity and expression is something really personal and our reasons for doing things are wide and varied, that's why I have never agreed with saying this is right or wrong just based on my personal experiences. Your experiences are valid, of course, but what about the 99% of people that feel differently? I think it's really damaging to only acknowledge your own experiences without realizing you're the very small minority. My boyfriend experiences his "transness" very differently than me and I'm always careful when I'm talking with people about this to let them know my feelings on this are my own and I do not speak for most trans people.
Ultimately I just never understood the "save the kids" narrative that you seem to be pushing in this video, since, at least in EU countries where I've lived, you can't start hormone treatment until you are 18 and people are waiting years and years for treatment, which I've seen lead to suicide often.
I'm truly sorry to hear that you are still not feeling good about yourself and body. As I said, I could relate to you a lot, and I think that maybe if some of my life experiences had been different I would have not transitioned, however that doesn't mean I would have been happier. Now that I am in a much better place in my life and have people that accept and support me, I feel really happy with my gender expression and body, and I did not need to detransition and I don't feel like somehow I missed out. Unfortunately, as you can see from the statistics the nr1 reason for detransition is transphobia internal and external and I can definitely understand that, and I can see that in you, which is very sad. Hopefully one day you can feel comfortable in yourself and accept your body like it is.
Another huge problem she fails to consider is that many parents are legitimately abusive. It's actually very dangerous to out kids to their parents. My parents became abusive when they found out. I'm 35 now, but we have not spoken in 10 years. She is presenting a very limited view that in many ways, is just as harmful to kids.
Been following you throughout your detfansition story however you look like one besutiful woman. But the core of your beauty is within. Stating how youre a friend shows your own light glowing that up.
Hey i'm so happy to See a new Video from you! Your face looks so feminine! I'm so happy for you❤ i am so sorry for these hardships you have to face, and i hope your therapist can help you to see how you really look, which is not at all like a man. But i can 100% See how impossible that might feel, but i believe one day you will See what we see, ans i wish you the best❤
I also wanted to ask, because i had been in what was essentialy T because of epilepsy, but i developed masculin facial Features, which have gone alot away, its only been 17 days but wanted to ask, does the nose ( slightly) go Back to normal? Otherwise i want to get a nose OP just to have my old nose and face Back, i never wanted to change, and to think that this medicine has changed me, cuts me to my core
Go Elle!
Your testimony is very much appreciated Elle and I am full of respect for the strength you have shown
12:18 Why is that an issue, though? All that is is the school affirming the kids social identity, which I see no problem with. Kids should be allowed to express themselves. And then, the parents not being notified of this is actually a good thing for many trans kids. They could get punished for worse just for who they are. If we disallow kids to medically transition, they should have a social safety net to fall back on, allowing them to be comfortable while navigating their childhood, who they are, and who they want to be.
Cause all that is just a huge lie
I first started watching you when my 19 year old daughter stopped thinking she was a trans boy, and my younger daughter started thinking she was, that was 3 years ago, and I've been going through this with my autistic daughters for 5 years. I have also lost many friends and entire communities and fun activities I used to love. But, I have to protect my daughters from this because I know very well that they will be psychologically harmed by medical transition (and physically). I've already seen 4 of their sweet friends harmed, and they have close to 20 friends identified as trans (autistic and not even gender nonconforming to their birth sex). This is a bizarre, real-life nightmare. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I wish you well. I think you're a beautiful woman, inside and out.
Hey, I'm so sorry to hear your experiences with this and your daughters'. I am also autistic and I always think that if I had been born a few years later I would have probably also started identifying as a trans boy in my teens (I was always very gender non-conforming, more tomboyish). It's crazy. I hope your daughters understand you only mean them well.
@Melissa08087 Thank you. I know my daughters and I have conflict sometimes, but they definitely know that I love them, I'm smart and educated, and I want the best for them. They do care about my opinions and perspective.
I just wanna tell you if you haven't heard it in a while you seem like a fantastic mom who just wants to best for her kids. These happenings are way more dangerous for our children on the spectrum than it is neurotypical kids, if you look at the statistics its up there, they are pushing kids like my siblings and your girls into this. Kids that already have a detachment to themselves and their environment, telling them because they are trans thats why they feel that way, not possibly because of the fact its part of the spectrum diagnosis they have. It makes me physically ill, we fought for so long to get their diagnosis to the forefront, for the longest time had no criteria for girls, yet now we are calling the symptoms of these disorders symptoms of being trans, how about we actually first work on getting these kids the developmental help they need to work on the groundwork of understanding how their disorder effects them.
@Bella-qu5pf Thank you! Your siblings are so lucky to have you looking out for them. ❤️
One time during exams at university, I wore a baseball cap and little makeup and one male engineering classmate laughed and said I look like a guy. My body is straight and I have wide shoulders. Whatever. Get over caring what people think.
I love you 💛
Oh Elle, I’ve been watching your videos for a long time, no particular reason except I think you are so smart and charming. I also think you are seriously deluded. However did you come to the conclusion that you are masculine in any way???? You are not just pretty, you are beautiful and it isn’t just your gorgeous hair! It’s your features, your lips, eyes, expressions. You move your hands in such a lovely way when you speak. Even though your voice is deep, there’s a definite girly sound in there followed by the occasional cute giggle.
I’m an old woman so I feel the freedom that comes with age yo say whatever I think. You are a perfectly made young woman who for whatever reason has been robbed of your genuine identity. My hope is that as smart as you are you will figure out a way to understand and embrace your authentic you. You are far too precious to have any less. God bless you Elle, I wish you the very best always!!!
We see you! We understand you. You are not alone in your thoughts.
I’m assuming you have tried voice training? I saw you when your channel was new and I think your voice has improved.
Elle, Your voice is good, you have feminine tones in your speech. You are a pretty woman. Love that you are using your platform to help kids navigate the uncertainties of adolescence.
Thanks Elle, I agree with you
So I was trans as a kid and I am very grateful for the people who let me be a tomboy as a kid without changing my physical sex at that age because I would have detransitioned
You're amazing Elle. So brave of you to speak out and speak your truth. Please know you and your life are valued and your words are reaching people who need this kind of video.
Hey, great to see you again! I agree with you 100%. Thanks for speaking out. I think you look absolutly feminin. Long hair, short hair - doesn't matter. Sending love ❤
go elle!🎉
I don't know if you'll ever see this comment, but I don't think you look masculine AT ALL. Your voice is a powerful testimony to your message of the damages transitioning. I admire your courage. Keep preaching!
A powerful video. Hard for many to face up to.
When I was a kid, I thought that God should've made me a boy, I thought he made a mistake. I was stronger than girls, more active, didn't care about doing my hair or painting my fingernails, etc
And I thank goodness this affirmative care crap was not going on back then because I would've fell for it. I never would've had my 4 kids, I never would've even known what a true genuine orgasm felt like. I thank my lucky stars. This affirmative trans action care is extremely harmful and no kid is in their right mind to choose. PERIOD. I have no doubt I would've fell for it. I had a strong case of oppositional defiant disorder back then, so I m sure I would've fell for it. When you're young, you do not understand complicated nuance and you literally think you know and understand almost anything.. But nothing could be further from the truth. Take poor Jazz Jennings for example, stands lock step with the trans community, yet dilating is extremely painful for Jazz and Jazz has never had an orgasm. You know why Jazz stands firm with the trans community? Because Jazz literally has absolutely NO idea what he/she is missing whatsoever. It's a sick type of Stockholm syndrome... Get the kids while they're young and impressionable and they'll be less likely to turn back because they won't know anything different!
BTW, When corporations are backing your movement you are no longer the resistance! Think about it! Ea kid they can get to be Trans is likely worth millions of dollars in a lifetime of hormones and surgeries!
You are so right there!
Great video, Elle! I haven't seen you around in a while but I have known of you since 2020 online. I'm so happy to see you post again and I share many of the sentiments you have in this video. Constantly, with every news story, every passed law, every liberal college interview video, every trans twitter think piece, everything that even mentions transgenderism, I'm reminded that I once lived that brainwashed life and the only way I could see it from an outside perspective was to detransition. Everything you said about difficulty making connections with people of the pro-trans crowd hits close to home for me. I'm glad to finally see another detransitioner talking about this reality we face.
Most of those who transition have gone through an enormous struggle and prefer to move on in there quest to be accepted with who they are. As in their earlier days they seek to escape self-doubt regarding their decision. Few have any interest in following the stories of de-transitioners. Most prefer to not be reminded of those struggles they once had. Socially connecting with de-transitoners may not add to the journey that they are on.
This is an awesome video Elle