I feel like if I see a brand new bison and the truck has a ton of scratches on the rock sliders I’m gonna be proud of the guy for using his truck for what it’s for.
I have a 2016 Colorado Z71 4X4 diesel I put 34k miles on the truck. The truck have been great! My mpg have been around town 25- 26 mpg on a road trip we just did and I got 29.8 mpg!
@@docholliday6285 Diesel can be harder to find out in the wilds. The LGZ V6 gets very good mileage off road and 87 octane is easy to find. The extra weight of the diesel (200lbs+), dealing with DEF, and lack of power turned me off. The gas 8 speed gives you much better crawl ratios, 7-1 vs 6-1.
I loved how when Andre asked about bigger lift and tires and a v8, the Chevy guy instead goes to talking about it being a Diesel and under cladding.. great answer👍🏼
Danny Kidd That Holden is Australia's version of the Chevy Colorado of which a SUV model does exist. So for Chevy to come out with it's own American style SUV Colorado isn't all that far off.
@@glenm2229 No kidding, having had an old S10 Blazer at one time I was exited about the name, then I saw the picture and realized it was just YAC (~ye - uck, yet another crossover)
They drive me nuts. When playing around on trails they are the primary thing I think about as I pick lines. The should have either been put on top or pushed as far out to the end as possible like the Jeep does.
I drive and off road a 1998 Chevy s10 ZR2 and i will say having skid/brush plates adds a lottttt of confidence. Off roading or just little things with my suburban which is just a plastic plate in front isn’t so safe feeling.
i want this in a diesel. also this is probably the extent of what i would do in the truck or mudding too. hunting, etc. I'll wait till it's available used though.
Yep. I am an owner of a 2019 gasser. Northern climate so rock crawling is secondary to winter snow. Still think they need a redesign from Chev/GM (lower shock mounts) or AEV guard for protection as part of bison package.
Good job Andre! The new Bison isn’t a “better” ZR2 it’s an Expedition vehicle. Niche truck. I’ll keep my ZR2 and add some AEV aftermarket parts (skids). Thanks to AEV for making a cool truck 😎👍🏻
I looked in to it , only ram has a good protective rear axel mounts for the rear suspension , toyota makes them closer to the wheels , but GM And FORD the rear suspension brackets stick out way more . i actually find the ram for half ton and the takoma wins in that segment
It's a damned if you do argument unfortunately, the shocks are mounted lower to help with the range and thus ride quality. Dodge with the rear coil springs makes up for it though.
@@shadowwolfmandan my boss made a bridge with logs each side one in the center for quads over a small river big beams wher set i a turn so i ended up leani g my rear right axel suspension mounts on the beam . i was stuck i got pulled and the ram bracket just eat the wood as i got pulled out aince my wheel was not touching the gound . story short ram is the best along with toyota and wrangler for that issue
Notice that AEV did not address the rear shock mounts, I wonder if Chevy told them not to, i.e. admission of design failure/guilt. Also, without looking fully at the design, that diff guard seems kinda iffy to me. Hit that thing dead on, the potential of bending it up and interfering with the driveline appears high.
@@joemillar4949 Dave Harriton doesn't say anything about the rear shock mounts unless I missed something. He talks about the shock itself when they proceed back to the front of the truck up on the lift...
Beautiful car. In my opinion the only thing it’s missing is a twin turbo for the v6 or a standard v8. AEV did an awesome job making the Colorado not only badass looking but also keeping it very usable for off roading
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: ok they used to dominate the mid-size pick up truck segment for like a couple years then GM and Honda came along. Nissan frontier is kinda irrelevant now
Pech Michael & Christina Honestly, I'd much rather the thing be reliable, have its hold value, and be able to mod the thing the way I want than have it be an unreliable money pit that comes jacked up from the factory.
I know Toyota is not sitting on their Laurels...I am sure in the next year they will answer any short comings and make it competitive with GM or any other brand. I have owned a GM truck...it was not very good. I will stick with Toyota...my Tacoma does what I need it to do and that is fine with me. How many people actually go rock crawling...not that many.
You know I get it people see 48k and think "oh god 50k for a midsize" even though you never pay msrp on these things and usually get 10k off at least if you don't just go in willing to overpay. The only trucks that are actual ripoffs are the raptors you actually have to pay 62-65 discounted only like 4 grand at most for one that equipped with the interior like a lariat. I mean don't get me wrong I think all vehicles are increasing in price so rapidly it's insane, but I find it funny people always bring up the argument "for that money just get a raptor" when the raptor is the worst one as far as price gouging you is concerned.
It's really cool, but I wish they gave it 4:10 gears and slightly larger tires. I also wish they offered it with a 6' bed, I know that's bad off road, but the 5' bed is useless for guys who actually use their truck for hauling objects.
Turd Ferguson Nitto makes 410 and 456 gears for the Colorado now. Gm makes a lift kit now to fit bigger tires . Also You can get a 6 foot bed with the extended cab version vs the crew cab.
LoL tfl aren't really that knowledgeable car/truck guys. Listening to Roman reminds me of a bad used car salesman and the rest of the guys even worse. "Mr. Truck" is more knowledgeable but some of the things I've seen him do it say make me cringe sometimes. I'm not Mr. Perfect myself but I believe we could always learn something from someone and knowledge should be shared with everyone for free.
Here in New Zealand we get the Colorado as a Holden, but it has different styling from the US model (it looks identical to the Argentine model). We don't get these cool trim levels, either.
ZR2 Colorado .....mine has been towed twice do to computer failure and losing all its oil ...rear axle trust angle was build WRONG (out of spec.)been in shop lots for lots of other issues ..was out with dogs once outta town, truck would not start . i freaked out then after 10 mins of trying and not working called tow truck to come get . while i was waiting thought i would try it again ....lol it started . we are at 18ooo km and are gonna sell as soon as we can. GMC rep even said it was horrible to be out a brand new truck for over 80 days accumulated shop time. GMC would not do buy back or trade over. any ways love TFL !!!! awesome videos . Roman rules, "Rock on" dude !
@@mikemissouri5152 ya you would think that, Canada has no such thing. I wish ! Canada gets all the lemons because we cant return them only get fixed under warranty. They did fix it all but still on a new truck its not rite to have that many problems and to such a bad degree. Thanks for the thought tho :) Cheers !
I recommend Toyota..I know how bad Yankee Trump shit is...Toyota's dont get towed very often if at all. I speak from my own personal experience. No bullshit here.
shkyhighscotty Yeah that sounds like bad luck to me. It’s going to happen to some people no matter what brand you buy when your taking about thousands of trucks being built. I got one of the first ZR2’s built in 17 and haven’t had one problem. And I take it off road as much as possible. I can’t wait to buy another one lol.
I see im not the only one who noticed how low the rear lower shock mounts are. I never understood the ground clearance rating when the shock mounts hang down another few inches with some vehicles. Obviously closer to the wheels the better but no matter what they will be first to hit depending on the terrain seems like kind of a large oversight but im no off road expert
I bought a 2x4 Tacoma so I don’t have damaged the undercarriage only dirt roads and mainly paved roads for me I spent to much money so I take care of my truck
For a stock truck, I think it's pretty impressive. Still... At almost $50k, I'm probably leaning towards a Silverado. I think the V6 308 HP is a little more power than the the Toyota. Definitely a good looking truck and very worthy of consideration especially when I'm in the back country of the Rocky Mountains.
@@13christbane I saw one video a few months ago, can't remember the channel but they guy and his wife are huge into offroading. They were really pushing some tough trails though, trails that easily challenged the modified jeeps that were there.
people complaining about this truck being poorly built, having bad mileage, being overpriced dont know what they are talking about. my zr2 has 400 000 miles on it and i ve only done 3 oil changes, it gets 30mpg and is rock solid, save for the times the air bags deploy when i am going 5mph offroad. i am keeping this thing until 2 million miles for sure
I wouldn't believe a thing you said after the 3 oil changes in 400k miles. Might as well never change it. There's a reason people change oil it goes bad after use.
I noticed they haven't addressed the rear shocks that hang down. Is this turning out to be a non issue? They look like they would be prone snagging rocks and such... Maybe not the case? If anyone out there has any experience with this please share. I own a 2018 gas powered ZR2. All stock so far
With all the talk of GM axing their line up I hope this does well. I would still take a Tacoma if I was in the market for midsize truck and a Ridgeline if I needed to replace my '03 Silverado.
Function over form, but I have always hated the Colorado's instrument panel, dash and '95 Cavalier shifting knob. I think the Tacoma has a better interior and the Ranger interior is much more modern too. Things to consider when paying over 40k for a midsize truck imo.
how about them other accessories. how about stock grab handles for the driver and rear passengers, you know, like that come stock on lowly Frontiers and other basic trucks.
Crazy expensive. You can get a full-sized 2020 Silverado 1500 Custom Trail Boss for $43,865 according to Andre's other video ua-cam.com/video/P4BRl8AXJ_Y/v-deo.html. Comes with 6.2L V8 420hp/460 torque with 10-spd transmission and will tow 13,400 in a double cab 4x4! We'll see, sounds too good to be true. Configurator and trucks coming ~Aug 2019.
I am impressed :O GM puts its money where its mouth is and lets reviewers test and scrape up the wheels a bit. THIS is how you sell your tough stuff. You show potential buyers what it can do. I only wish this shock mounts were closer to the wheels. Being mid-axle like that just means more places to scrap and drag. Going to buy up soon from my KL Trailhawk (which frankly has been awesome but that RDM is fragile, even as it is highly capable). I am stuck between a new JL Rubicon, the Gladiator, a tricked out TRD Pro, and this vehicle when I do buy. Money isnt a big issue, but I do want a ton of bang for my buck.
I love how all they did was give you a new set of bumpers that actually HURTS your off-road capabilities, charge you for said shitty bumpers. And then they wanna try and sell shit that’s ACTUALLY useful?? Why tf not just make the truck with all those things included? People are just gonna buy the regular ZR2 and modify it for wayyy cheaper
Add $1,500 worth of stuff, install it, make it look OEM and not something Bubba's Back Yard Installers put together, market it, warranty it, make a profit on, and it's no longer $1,500. Seriously, you people think cows milk themselves.
Michael Justa Bumpers might cost $3k to you, but that it isn't what it would cost GM over a standard bumper. Still, I get the point being made. Install, marketing, warranty, etc. all cost something. Most people have no clue what goes into designing, building and guaranteeing products. There's no value for time or quality of work.
Jeremy Sayers bumpers, rims, skids, sliders... all installed... what are you complaining about. A similarly equipped Silverado would be $60k plus. The zr2 has a leather interior. A raptor would be FAR more... And who wants a used and abused raptor for 6 years ago? No thanks.
@@mark7067 You got it. Not to mention they engineered ALL of this stuff so it doesn't affect the crash rating or de-rate the towing capacity. Giant\ugly aftermarket bumpers often cause cooling issues....but no one likes to talk about that.
I find it interesting that AEV didn't address that, almost like Chevy told them not to, as it seems like a design flaw. That said, there may not be any other options to get the travel and be further outboard. Definitely an Achilles heel.
It's like so many people comment on this issue but there hasn't been any "real" issue, there is aftermarket skids that help but they are about as much as an issue as the the jeep jk rear shock positions which a lot of ppl complain about, but only in the most hard core scenario or the craziest line will it ever be an issue.
That's why you have spotters to help you position your tires, you wouldn't pick a line to travel that has a huge rock that's going to rip it off, that's why you run the rock over with the tire to lift the shocks over it.
These shock mounts are from the 2500hd. They can take a pounding. Are there any real cases of someone being stranded because of this? I haven't seen any but there might be some, somewhere. People have been off-road alot in these trucks as well.
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: and the high volume most common trim Chevy truck, the LT now comes standard with a turbo 4 banger engine. So using your logic no one will buy Chevy trucks. See how that works?
lol a 'Mildly equiped Silverado' I just bought a 2018 Crew Cab Long Bed GMC Sierra 3500 HD 6.0L 4x4 SLE for $41,150 out the door. Granted it was a $53,300 MSRP truck. But these Bisons will be discounted too, so you'd probably really end up paying anywhere from 38k-45k plus your taxes depending how good your dealer is.
this is the first gm truck i have actually loved in about twenty years. they finally made something cool and exciting. but with gm laying off approximately 14,000 employees i will not support them and hope many other americans do the same. after the government bailout and saving gm, it is a knife in the back to the american people.
Honestly, it was a necessary step. Nobody is buying cars anymore, compared to 10 years ago. Those factories were kind of doomed by we Americans. There was really no reason to keep building the card that were not selling. It's an unpopular business move, but something that was bound to happen.
I'd like to start off and say I agree with you to an extent, and my Grandpa retired from GM building Corvettes in Bowling Green Kentucky after 22 years, so trust me when I say I don't like to see those people get laid off. I'd also like to add that the people getting laid off do have an option to move to other plants where GM wants to focus on more production, if we take all the vehicles they're discontinuing they sell lets say pulling a number out of my butt 100k of them a year combined, those people buying those cars (Unless they're like you, but we'll address that later) are going to come back to GM and buy another vehicle that is still offered. And what that means to these workers is GM still needs them, they just need them in a different location so they will offer them jobs at other plants to help with the increased production they'll need to make up for the loss of the vehicles and plant being discontinued. So it's not just like 14k people are out of work, I'd say GM would be glad to keep every single one of them if they're willing to relocate for work. 2nd, kind of what the other commenter said, the cars they were making at that plant clearly weren't making them very much money, whether it was a lack of advertisement to push those cars to the market better or whatever else, they just didn't sell so if you can't sell enough to pay the bills then you need to stop before you bankrupt yourself (Because they learned that lesson once already, that's why the Government made them discontinue the Saturn line because it was making less money than it was worth). Also, the only reason they were bailed out is because GM employees (at least currently) 180,000 people www.google.com/search?q=how+many+employees+does+general+motors+have&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS695US695&oq=How+many+employees+does+General&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l4.9709j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 It was either give them money so they can stay afloat or it was let 180k people go out of work devastating the economy in a lot of places, and leaving all the people with a GM made vehicle screwed as far as warranties and parts go and service. So yes we bailed them out, but they've 'made up' for it by now by keeping those people employed for the last 10 years. Now, we have to address people sharing your mentality of 'They're laying people off so we should boycott them' okay lets just say for fun we do that. GM lays off 14k people and then everyone stops buying GM vehicles all together and they sell 0 next year. That'd probably bankrupt them in a year or two doing that. So then they'd have to lay off 180,000 people, is that really what you want? So you'd rather 180k people be unemployed rather than 14k people that will probably be relocated to another assembly plant anyway and still have a job? I don't think that's what any of us want. What you should be saying instead is 'Everyone needs to go buy a new GM vehicle so that GM can afford to give those 14k people a job again so they don't have to be unemployed' And you should pay MSRP sticker price so they can afford to keep Americans employed. It'd be super dumb to have bailed GM out once and then make them go bankrupt again by boycotting their sales so then we'd have to bail them out again or let 180k people lose their jobs lol. That's just dumb. So, I'd like to say, stop being dumb and actually think about things for a hot second before you go spewing your dumb comments. Also, go buy a new Chevy Cruze or Chevy Spark, www.davesmith.com/new/Chevrolet/2019-Chevrolet-Cruze-ed46f6bd0a0e0aea0757e4c5492c7021.htm 15,500 out the door. www.davesmith.com/new/Chevrolet/2019-Chevrolet-Spark-44f583ef0a0e0a1744993496b9907b72.htm 9,500 out the door. Both get roughly 30-40 MPG, not sure why anyone wouldn't want one as a go around grocery getter at the least, I could literally buy the Chevy Spark for the price of about 95 tanks of gas in my truck, which is only about 29,000 miles worth, lol! If I was in the right situation I'd buy one right now because it'd pay for itself, but I'm not and I'm sad to see them go. I'd also like to just say, I've bought 2 trucks from GM in the past 7 months, a total of about $77,000, So, I've done my part to keep people employed, how about you?
So don't support them so more people get laid off. Buy what you want and business will succeed or fail based upon that . But to boycott for the sac of showing them. Ignorant
People bitch about the bailout (rightfully so) yet fail to see GM making changes now to stop it from happening again as a good thing. Can't have it both ways
ZR2 with negligible enhancements: check $5000 price hike: check Boring interior: check 1st grade project looking gauges: check Still no dual zone climate control: check Over priced: check Yep. It all adds up. It’s definitely a Chevy.
If they'd put a decent tire on these trucks, you wouldn't have to beat the piss out of the rock sliders all day long. 31" tires were in style two decades ago.
OFFRD in another video a Chevy engineer said they couldn’t go bigger on tires due to it changing the impact and crash test ratings, even the aev front bumper had to be worked on until it passed compliance
@@dj1400777 Which begs the question, how do Ford and FCA both use 33" tires on the new Wrangler, Gladiator, and Ranger from the factory? Sounds like yet another example of piss poor GM engineering. Even the new Trail Boss has tiny 32" tires on it, which look ridiculous on such a huge truck.
OFFRD they don’t have the same body’s and frames and probably don’t have the same crash test ratings, but hey I’m not an engineer so that’s all speculation they do look too small though I was just saying what they had said
Here is our first drive review of the 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro ua-cam.com/video/5gTwdYQGO4E/v-deo.html
TFLnow NOT EVERYBODY WANTS A DIESEL YOU IDIOT!!! They are more maintenance!! And the D max has a timing belt! USE THE 5.3 ALREADY!!!!!!
TFLnow Please test new g550 on ike gauntlet！
PhillLsx Ga. you have a point which is far better received if said politely.
@@cgdurant1 that's comment was for GM. I'm sure TFLT can relay the message..
At least it looked like Chevy actually picked a some what harder course, most manufacturers don’t push these vehicles at press releases
I was talking specifically about the this video and the bison not about the Zr2 overall....”not late to the party”
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: Your attitude sucks, fix that.
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: Keyboard warrior.
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: Your words are to impressive for me to handle, you win.
I get 27 highway in my ZR2 duramax
I get 41mpg highway in my Nissan Versa
Pat MyGroin who cares?
@@H3minusH2 Your boyfriend.
At least he can afford both ;)
i should have gotten the diesel i get 13 city 17 highway
I feel like if I see a brand new bison and the truck has a ton of scratches on the rock sliders I’m gonna be proud of the guy for using his truck for what it’s for.
Such a fantastic truck, sucks it cost so much.
Bison seems to be an excellent expansion on an already great platform. Nice!
Im not a rockcrawler guy but that looked cool
I have a 2016 Colorado Z71 4X4 diesel I put 34k miles on the truck. The truck have been great! My mpg have been around town 25- 26 mpg on a road trip we just did and I got 29.8 mpg!
The birds eye view makes it look like a mini 2014 raptor. It’s a good looking truck
Nobody doing overland wants a v8. A small displacement diesel is perfect.
I overland and would love a v8
Benjamin Cook not me. Duramax is preferred.
@@benjamincook9963 Yeah me too, it would get similar mpg to the diesel too, those v8s cruise
@phuck ewe I also want a trophy truck
@@docholliday6285 Diesel can be harder to find out in the wilds. The LGZ V6 gets very good mileage off road and 87 octane is easy to find. The extra weight of the diesel (200lbs+), dealing with DEF, and lack of power turned me off. The gas 8 speed gives you much better crawl ratios, 7-1 vs 6-1.
$48,000!! Dang!
Side note: I really hate where GM/Chevy puts their shocks, they're just waiting to get bashed by a rock.
Kayak Uprising go buy a trd pro tacoma and pay 10k dealer markup and get a cheap interior.
I'm a chevy fan boy and yeah I'll admit that it's a huge pain in the ass.
Im late for a meeting cuz of this video
I am eating breakfast and watching this...
So happy that it's an Andre video...
He's really good at what he does.
Yea me too. Really hate nathan. He a piece of crap
@@stevema74 I don't hate Nathan. It's Roman that drives me nuts! lol
If I didn’t already own a Raptor, I would definitely be looking at a Bison diesel
I loved how when Andre asked about bigger lift and tires and a v8, the Chevy guy instead goes to talking about it being a Diesel and under cladding.. great answer👍🏼
Misdirection...red herring
Hey now give him some credit he mentioned the Jeep drawers in the bed and a ladder rack too.
I luv this thing well done gm
Awesome truck made it look easy 👍👍
When is GM going to make an SUV based on this truck to compete with the 4Runner?
@@Daywalker_27 Wow that's ugly!
Danny Kidd That Holden is Australia's version of the Chevy Colorado of which a SUV model does exist. So for Chevy to come out with it's own American style SUV Colorado isn't all that far off.
That's a damn good idea!
Too bad they already ruined the Blazer name. That's exactly what most people were expecting from it.
@@glenm2229 No kidding, having had an old S10 Blazer at one time I was exited about the name, then I saw the picture and realized it was just YAC (~ye - uck, yet another crossover)
The lower mount for the rear (expensive looking) shocks looks pretty vulnerable.
They drive me nuts. When playing around on trails they are the primary thing I think about as I pick lines. The should have either been put on top or pushed as far out to the end as possible like the Jeep does.
Agreed, the shock placement angers me.
I drive and off road a 1998 Chevy s10 ZR2 and i will say having skid/brush plates adds a lottttt of confidence. Off roading or just little things with my suburban which is just a plastic plate in front isn’t so safe feeling.
i want this in a diesel. also this is probably the extent of what i would do in the truck or mudding too. hunting, etc. I'll wait till it's available used though.
Beautiful truck however, AEV did all this off road protection but nothing on the low hanging shocks? That is crazy to me.
Yep. I am an owner of a 2019 gasser. Northern climate so rock crawling is secondary to winter snow. Still think they need a redesign from Chev/GM (lower shock mounts) or AEV guard for protection as part of bison package.
When will GM finally do away with square fender wells? Tires are round, so should the fender wells.
I like the regular ZR2 better. It looks more aggressive.
Nice,.and from the colors shown here, this white one would be my choice, with the snorkel , if only for the cool looks it gives.
Good job Andre! The new Bison isn’t a “better” ZR2 it’s an Expedition vehicle. Niche truck. I’ll keep my ZR2 and add some AEV aftermarket parts (skids). Thanks to AEV for making a cool truck 😎👍🏻
I looked in to it , only ram has a good protective rear axel mounts for the rear suspension , toyota makes them closer to the wheels , but GM And FORD the rear suspension brackets stick out way more . i actually find the ram for half ton and the takoma wins in that segment
It's a damned if you do argument unfortunately, the shocks are mounted lower to help with the range and thus ride quality. Dodge with the rear coil springs makes up for it though.
@@shadowwolfmandan my boss made a bridge with logs each side one in the center for quads over a small river big beams wher set i a turn so i ended up leani g my rear right axel suspension mounts on the beam . i was stuck i got pulled and the ram bracket just eat the wood as i got pulled out aince my wheel was not touching the gound . story short ram is the best along with toyota and wrangler for that issue
I shouldn’t have bought my TRD Tacoma. This ZR2 would runs circles around it. And with that diesel it would be more reliable longterm
Notice that AEV did not address the rear shock mounts, I wonder if Chevy told them not to, i.e. admission of design failure/guilt. Also, without looking fully at the design, that diff guard seems kinda iffy to me. Hit that thing dead on, the potential of bending it up and interfering with the driveline appears high.
In the Expedition Overland video of the Bison, the AEV guy explains Chevy’s position on the rear shock mounts.
@@joemillar4949 Dave Harriton doesn't say anything about the rear shock mounts unless I missed something. He talks about the shock itself when they proceed back to the front of the truck up on the lift...
Watch AEV’s video on why
Looked to have skid plates on the shocks. That's about it.
Those shock mounts are crazy. It's like having 3 diffs back there
Any info on what would be a better tire application for this unit . Thanks much for this content .
Beautiful car. In my opinion the only thing it’s missing is a twin turbo for the v6 or a standard v8. AEV did an awesome job making the Colorado not only badass looking but also keeping it very usable for off roading
How about a turbo v8
Toyota needs to step it up
But but but they’re reliable, they hold value! Ha
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: ok they used to dominate the mid-size pick up truck segment for like a couple years then GM and Honda came along. Nissan frontier is kinda irrelevant now
Pech Michael & Christina Honestly, I'd much rather the thing be reliable, have its hold value, and be able to mod the thing the way I want than have it be an unreliable money pit that comes jacked up from the factory.
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: And rust
I know Toyota is not sitting on their Laurels...I am sure in the next year they will answer any short comings and make it competitive with GM or any other brand. I have owned a GM truck...it was not very good. I will stick with Toyota...my Tacoma does what I need it to do and that is fine with me. How many people actually go rock crawling...not that many.
I’m really tempted for a base Colorado 2wd manual. And then build it like a prerunner. The base truck is msrp of 20k
You know I get it people see 48k and think "oh god 50k for a midsize" even though you never pay msrp on these things and usually get 10k off at least if you don't just go in willing to overpay. The only trucks that are actual ripoffs are the raptors you actually have to pay 62-65 discounted only like 4 grand at most for one that equipped with the interior like a lariat. I mean don't get me wrong I think all vehicles are increasing in price so rapidly it's insane, but I find it funny people always bring up the argument "for that money just get a raptor" when the raptor is the worst one as far as price gouging you is concerned.
Colorado to its competition: How ya like me now?
there is a company in Australia doing a V8 conversion on Colorado
It's really cool, but I wish they gave it 4:10 gears and slightly larger tires. I also wish they offered it with a 6' bed, I know that's bad off road, but the 5' bed is useless for guys who actually use their truck for hauling objects.
Turd Ferguson Nitto makes 410 and 456 gears for the Colorado now. Gm makes a lift kit now to fit bigger tires . Also You can get a 6 foot bed with the extended cab version vs the crew cab.
Can you add extras after you buy the bison?
I like it and I LOVE the country intro music.
I bet TFL rolls their eyes alot reading these uneducated comments
LoL tfl aren't really that knowledgeable car/truck guys. Listening to Roman reminds me of a bad used car salesman and the rest of the guys even worse. "Mr. Truck" is more knowledgeable but some of the things I've seen him do it say make me cringe sometimes. I'm not Mr. Perfect myself but I believe we could always learn something from someone and knowledge should be shared with everyone for free.
Here in New Zealand we get the Colorado as a Holden, but it has different styling from the US model (it looks identical to the Argentine model). We don't get these cool trim levels, either.
ZR2 Colorado .....mine has been towed twice do to computer failure and losing all its oil ...rear axle trust angle was build WRONG (out of spec.)been in shop lots for lots of other issues ..was out with dogs once outta town, truck would not start . i freaked out then after 10 mins of trying and not working called tow truck to come get . while i was waiting thought i would try it again ....lol it started . we are at 18ooo km and are gonna sell as soon as we can. GMC rep even said it was horrible to be out a brand new truck for over 80 days accumulated shop time. GMC would not do buy back or trade over. any ways love TFL !!!! awesome videos . Roman rules, "Rock on" dude !
shkyhighscotty if all that is true I’m sure you would qualify under the lemon law. They would have to buy back or give you a new truck. Get a lawyer.
@@mikemissouri5152 ya you would think that, Canada has no such thing. I wish ! Canada gets all the lemons because we cant return them only get fixed under warranty. They did fix it all but still on a new truck its not rite to have that many problems and to such a bad degree. Thanks for the thought tho :) Cheers !
@@mikemissouri5152 Damn truck stole our whole summer !! I want the new Rivian R1T
I recommend Toyota..I know how bad Yankee Trump shit is...Toyota's dont get towed very often if at all. I speak from my own personal experience. No bullshit here.
shkyhighscotty Yeah that sounds like bad luck to me. It’s going to happen to some people no matter what brand you buy when your taking about thousands of trucks being built. I got one of the first ZR2’s built in 17 and haven’t had one problem. And I take it off road as much as possible. I can’t wait to buy another one lol.
Is putting the manufactures name in a huge font the new hip thing for cars nowadays?
Need to fix rear shocks
Is that the 2.6 liter diesel?
That spare tire is going to ripped open on a rock. Not to mention with mpgs like that why not get a full size?
I see im not the only one who noticed how low the rear lower shock mounts are. I never understood the ground clearance rating when the shock mounts hang down another few inches with some vehicles. Obviously closer to the wheels the better but no matter what they will be first to hit depending on the terrain seems like kind of a large oversight but im no off road expert
I just do not see over 5k more in options between the Bison and the stock ZR2 not to mention I like the cut out front bumper more.
Id love to see a Bison version of the TRD Pro.
Change your logo to the Rising Sun?
Mark Dickens definitely beat around the bush when asked about the V8. We don’t care about the baby diesel, we want a V8 option!!!!!
I bought a 2x4 Tacoma so I don’t have damaged the undercarriage only dirt roads and mainly paved roads for me I spent to much money so I take care of my truck
For a stock truck, I think it's pretty impressive. Still... At almost $50k, I'm probably leaning towards a Silverado. I think the V6 308 HP is a little more power than the the Toyota. Definitely a good looking truck and very worthy of consideration especially when I'm in the back country of the Rocky Mountains.
A Silverado is too big and not as capable offroad. Not sure why you would lean towards it when it comes to off-roading
Need skid plates for those shocks for rock crawling
The shocks are too low
inflow divide Yet they survive again....
yeah people keep saying the shocks are too low but I have yet to see a video where they get damaged.
@@13christbane I saw one video a few months ago, can't remember the channel but they guy and his wife are huge into offroading. They were really pushing some tough trails though, trails that easily challenged the modified jeeps that were there.
Will wait for a lift kit. This ZR2 has about as much clearance as a Subaru
The chevy mans the sound of his voice reminds me of someone from family Guy
Nice ride.... makes me glad to be a truck not partial type guy what with Ford's new ranger and of course the new jeep gladiator soon to be out.
They mentioned it was East of Scottsdale in Arizona, does anyone know exactly where ?
people complaining about this truck being poorly built, having bad mileage, being overpriced dont know what they are talking about. my zr2 has 400 000 miles on it and i ve only done 3 oil changes, it gets 30mpg and is rock solid, save for the times the air bags deploy when i am going 5mph offroad. i am keeping this thing until 2 million miles for sure
Does your comment make sense?
3 oil changes?. Yeah ok.
I wouldn't believe a thing you said after the 3 oil changes in 400k miles. Might as well never change it. There's a reason people change oil it goes bad after use.
19 MPG combined for a midsize diesel? How is it then that the new full size diesel Silverado gets 33 MPG?
Them rear shocks hanging kinda low.
Make regular cab for off roading in these truck please
For that price, I would buy a power wagon.
I noticed they haven't addressed the rear shocks that hang down. Is this turning out to be a non issue? They look like they would be prone snagging rocks and such... Maybe not the case? If anyone out there has any experience with this please share. I own a 2018 gas powered ZR2. All stock so far
They put them there for articulation.
With all the talk of GM axing their line up I hope this does well. I would still take a Tacoma if I was in the market for midsize truck and a Ridgeline if I needed to replace my '03 Silverado.
Function over form, but I have always hated the Colorado's instrument panel, dash and '95 Cavalier shifting knob. I think the Tacoma has a better interior and the Ranger interior is much more modern too. Things to consider when paying over 40k for a midsize truck imo.
Ask GM if the Colorado will ever get the new 4 cyl turbo engine offered in the Silverado.
Put a darn standard transmission in it.
Those rear shocks sticking down is bad news for going over anything jagged
I really like the zr2 but the middle arm rest annoy me, it seems a bit cheap. I guess i need to see one for myself to make up my mind.
Skodz Gaming yeah go drive one. You won’t be disappointed. Bring your check book.
It’s a Chevy. Of course it’s cheap.
how about them other accessories. how about stock grab handles for the driver and rear passengers, you know, like that come stock on lowly Frontiers and other basic trucks.
Those rear shock mounts are definitely a limiting factor
Where is Nathan?
Bang. Bang. Scrraaaaaape.
Good job, spotter.
You didn't have the ZR2 in off road mode 😩. The button on the 4x4 knob. It will show a mountain dash light icon when active 😃. Love my ZR2 duramax
Didn't have the front locker engaged either and it did great. Eat shit Tacoma! Lol.
Crazy expensive. You can get a full-sized 2020 Silverado 1500 Custom Trail Boss for $43,865 according to Andre's other video ua-cam.com/video/P4BRl8AXJ_Y/v-deo.html. Comes with 6.2L V8 420hp/460 torque with 10-spd transmission and will tow 13,400 in a double cab 4x4! We'll see, sounds too good to be true. Configurator and trucks coming ~Aug 2019.
I am impressed :O GM puts its money where its mouth is and lets reviewers test and scrape up the wheels a bit.
THIS is how you sell your tough stuff. You show potential buyers what it can do.
I only wish this shock mounts were closer to the wheels. Being mid-axle like that just means more places to scrap and drag.
Going to buy up soon from my KL Trailhawk (which frankly has been awesome but that RDM is fragile, even as it is highly capable). I am stuck between a new JL Rubicon, the Gladiator, a tricked out TRD Pro, and this vehicle when I do buy. Money isnt a big issue, but I do want a ton of bang for my buck.
What did you buy? Jeep or ZR2? Rubicon can't tow much so limits it to play toy. I'm stick with my ZR2 for now. Not worth upgrade to Gladiator
R.I.P. RUSTY Tacoma’s
Just an amazing truck.
I love how all they did was give you a new set of bumpers that actually HURTS your off-road capabilities, charge you for said shitty bumpers. And then they wanna try and sell shit that’s ACTUALLY useful?? Why tf not just make the truck with all those things included? People are just gonna buy the regular ZR2 and modify it for wayyy cheaper
So 1500 dollars worth of stuff for 5k lol
Add $1,500 worth of stuff, install it, make it look OEM and not something Bubba's Back Yard Installers put together, market it, warranty it, make a profit on, and it's no longer $1,500. Seriously, you people think cows milk themselves.
Aftermarket steel bumpers are 3k easy. Skids are 1k. Plus the flairs. installation..... they actually are priced really fair.
Michael Justa Bumpers might cost $3k to you, but that it isn't what it would cost GM over a standard bumper. Still, I get the point being made. Install, marketing, warranty, etc. all cost something. Most people have no clue what goes into designing, building and guaranteeing products. There's no value for time or quality of work.
Jeremy Sayers bumpers, rims, skids, sliders... all installed... what are you complaining about.
A similarly equipped Silverado would be $60k plus. The zr2 has a leather interior. A raptor would be FAR more...
And who wants a used and abused raptor for 6 years ago? No thanks.
@@mark7067 You got it. Not to mention they engineered ALL of this stuff so it doesn't affect the crash rating or de-rate the towing capacity. Giant\ugly aftermarket bumpers often cause cooling issues....but no one likes to talk about that.
I stopped caring the moment he said starting at $48,000. JFC vehicles are getting out of hand
Soo...is this Bison made in America?? Or somewhere else?? The reason for asking, because of the GM plant closings!
Wentzville plant
@@goldie1088 Thanks for the info 😎
What I always find i teresting to see is that the shock mounts on the rear stick out more than the diff. If you hit that on a rock your stranded.
I find it interesting that AEV didn't address that, almost like Chevy told them not to, as it seems like a design flaw. That said, there may not be any other options to get the travel and be further outboard. Definitely an Achilles heel.
It's like so many people comment on this issue but there hasn't been any "real" issue, there is aftermarket skids that help but they are about as much as an issue as the the jeep jk rear shock positions which a lot of ppl complain about, but only in the most hard core scenario or the craziest line will it ever be an issue.
That's why you have spotters to help you position your tires, you wouldn't pick a line to travel that has a huge rock that's going to rip it off, that's why you run the rock over with the tire to lift the shocks over it.
These shock mounts are from the 2500hd. They can take a pounding. Are there any real cases of someone being stranded because of this? I haven't seen any but there might be some, somewhere. People have been off-road alot in these trucks as well.
You can drive with a broken shock. Would be annoying but no huge deal...expensive to fix if you did damage to the mount tho
Why do the corporate wonks always call them “cars”?
because its a car
It's short for horseless CARriage
If only it had a stick and a clutch.
Hold My Beer. Le Me show you cake eaters how to go Weelin!!!
A v8 would be good or a 4.3.
Want to see how much snow a ZR2 can make it through? We made it through almost 3 feet! Check it out 5 zr2s @
Where is the Four-cylinder turbo would be way better then the V6 better mpg
I get 130 mpg in my Prius prime
48k yeah ok no that’s used raptor money or mildly equipped Silverado that’s serious up charge.
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: and the high volume most common trim Chevy truck, the LT now comes standard with a turbo 4 banger engine. So using your logic no one will buy Chevy trucks. See how that works?
lol a 'Mildly equiped Silverado' I just bought a 2018 Crew Cab Long Bed GMC Sierra 3500 HD 6.0L 4x4 SLE for $41,150 out the door. Granted it was a $53,300 MSRP truck. But these Bisons will be discounted too, so you'd probably really end up paying anywhere from 38k-45k plus your taxes depending how good your dealer is.
sweet truck, oh also $50,000!? are you nuts? 40 maybe
40 is probably what people will pay with discounts.
this is the first gm truck i have actually loved in about twenty years. they finally made something cool and exciting. but with gm laying off approximately 14,000 employees i will not support them and hope many other americans do the same. after the government bailout and saving gm, it is a knife in the back to the american people.
Honestly, it was a necessary step. Nobody is buying cars anymore, compared to 10 years ago. Those factories were kind of doomed by we Americans. There was really no reason to keep building the card that were not selling. It's an unpopular business move, but something that was bound to happen.
I'd like to start off and say I agree with you to an extent, and my Grandpa retired from GM building Corvettes in Bowling Green Kentucky after 22 years, so trust me when I say I don't like to see those people get laid off. I'd also like to add that the people getting laid off do have an option to move to other plants where GM wants to focus on more production, if we take all the vehicles they're discontinuing they sell lets say pulling a number out of my butt 100k of them a year combined, those people buying those cars (Unless they're like you, but we'll address that later) are going to come back to GM and buy another vehicle that is still offered. And what that means to these workers is GM still needs them, they just need them in a different location so they will offer them jobs at other plants to help with the increased production they'll need to make up for the loss of the vehicles and plant being discontinued. So it's not just like 14k people are out of work, I'd say GM would be glad to keep every single one of them if they're willing to relocate for work.
2nd, kind of what the other commenter said, the cars they were making at that plant clearly weren't making them very much money, whether it was a lack of advertisement to push those cars to the market better or whatever else, they just didn't sell so if you can't sell enough to pay the bills then you need to stop before you bankrupt yourself (Because they learned that lesson once already, that's why the Government made them discontinue the Saturn line because it was making less money than it was worth). Also, the only reason they were bailed out is because GM employees (at least currently) 180,000 people www.google.com/search?q=how+many+employees+does+general+motors+have&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS695US695&oq=How+many+employees+does+General&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l4.9709j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 It was either give them money so they can stay afloat or it was let 180k people go out of work devastating the economy in a lot of places, and leaving all the people with a GM made vehicle screwed as far as warranties and parts go and service. So yes we bailed them out, but they've 'made up' for it by now by keeping those people employed for the last 10 years.
Now, we have to address people sharing your mentality of 'They're laying people off so we should boycott them' okay lets just say for fun we do that. GM lays off 14k people and then everyone stops buying GM vehicles all together and they sell 0 next year. That'd probably bankrupt them in a year or two doing that. So then they'd have to lay off 180,000 people, is that really what you want? So you'd rather 180k people be unemployed rather than 14k people that will probably be relocated to another assembly plant anyway and still have a job? I don't think that's what any of us want.
What you should be saying instead is 'Everyone needs to go buy a new GM vehicle so that GM can afford to give those 14k people a job again so they don't have to be unemployed' And you should pay MSRP sticker price so they can afford to keep Americans employed. It'd be super dumb to have bailed GM out once and then make them go bankrupt again by boycotting their sales so then we'd have to bail them out again or let 180k people lose their jobs lol. That's just dumb.
So, I'd like to say, stop being dumb and actually think about things for a hot second before you go spewing your dumb comments.
Also, go buy a new Chevy Cruze or Chevy Spark,
www.davesmith.com/new/Chevrolet/2019-Chevrolet-Cruze-ed46f6bd0a0e0aea0757e4c5492c7021.htm 15,500 out the door.
www.davesmith.com/new/Chevrolet/2019-Chevrolet-Spark-44f583ef0a0e0a1744993496b9907b72.htm 9,500 out the door.
Both get roughly 30-40 MPG, not sure why anyone wouldn't want one as a go around grocery getter at the least, I could literally buy the Chevy Spark for the price of about 95 tanks of gas in my truck, which is only about 29,000 miles worth, lol! If I was in the right situation I'd buy one right now because it'd pay for itself, but I'm not and I'm sad to see them go.
I'd also like to just say, I've bought 2 trucks from GM in the past 7 months, a total of about $77,000, So, I've done my part to keep people employed, how about you?
So don't support them so more people get laid off. Buy what you want and business will succeed or fail based upon that . But to boycott for the sac of showing them. Ignorant
People bitch about the bailout (rightfully so) yet fail to see GM making changes now to stop it from happening again as a good thing. Can't have it both ways
@@dedalliance1 You can move to different plants. If you have more years then someone else you can move in and they move out
Nice. Less clearance and more weight is exactly what every off-road vehicle needs. 😕
Yeah GM makes a level kit and a lift now for the ZR2.. which will help a lot. Will fit 33” tires too. This should have put them on for the video.
GM V8 exactly
ZR2 with negligible enhancements: check
$5000 price hike: check
Boring interior: check
1st grade project looking gauges: check
Still no dual zone climate control: check
Over priced: check
Yep. It all adds up. It’s definitely a Chevy.
So cute
I don’t expect luxury out of an off-roader, but that’s just me
You should see what the jeep guys spend on their offroaders and they don't have near the comfort level.
true. Overpriced for the included tech. Needs a redesign.
Best midsize on the market; CHECK
Better than the Tacoma; CHECK
Would not pay $50K and slam it into a Rock immediately 😂
It's NOT his truck
Does this version also come with the side airbags that randomly deploy when you go offroad?
patientx77 They have fixed that with a software update.
No that's an upcharge.
Good thing your airbags didn't deploy :P
Misiekgren they fixed that with a software update.
If they'd put a decent tire on these trucks, you wouldn't have to beat the piss out of the rock sliders all day long. 31" tires were in style two decades ago.
OFFRD in another video a Chevy engineer said they couldn’t go bigger on tires due to it changing the impact and crash test ratings, even the aev front bumper had to be worked on until it passed compliance
The tire is good. You mean the size.
@@dj1400777 Which begs the question, how do Ford and FCA both use 33" tires on the new Wrangler, Gladiator, and Ranger from the factory? Sounds like yet another example of piss poor GM engineering. Even the new Trail Boss has tiny 32" tires on it, which look ridiculous on such a huge truck.
OFFRD they don’t have the same body’s and frames and probably don’t have the same crash test ratings, but hey I’m not an engineer so that’s all speculation they do look too small though I was just saying what they had said