Battle of the Ports - Chuck Rock (チャックロック) Show
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There was once a British developer known as Core Design. They started life on the Amiga before hitting the big time with Tomb Raider. Sadly they were bought by a soulless conglomerate and are no more. But before the days of Tomb Raider they did make many original games. Once such game being Chuck Rock.
Time Code
00:25 - Amiga
03:12 - Atari ST
05:07 - Acorn Archimedes
06:56 - Mega Drive
09:41 - Mega CD
12:34 - Super Nintendo
14:13 - Master System
16:01 - Game Gear
17:49 - Game Boy
19:10 - Commodore 64
21:31 - All versions side by side
23:14 - Out Takes
Enjoy!
I was in my late 50s when I first bought this game. Now I am 89 and I can play it all over again with emulation. I may not be able to drive anymore but I can still play Chuck Rock. 💩
89? You have my respect sir
Man you rock
I wish you can play till 110
89 and still playing? That's great. I hope I can when I'm that old.
Talk about a veteran gamer!
10:08 "Gadzooks! It's Gary Gritter, the local wierdo in them there bushes". Core Design had him banged to rights back in 1991.
C64 version is impressive. It moves so smoothly. I didn't expect that quality.
Yes, I think the C64 is quite an impressive system considering its age.
Core was one of the few developers who seemed to know what the hell to do with the Sega/Mega-CD. They made some impressive stuff for it. AH-3 Thunderstrike, Soul Star and Battlecorps being amazing showpieces for the hardware. If the Sega-CD had more developers like them, it would have done much better.
I know right! Soul Star is one of my favourite Sega CD games and I wish there were more technically impressive games on the CD
@@DanielAyy They looked and felt next gen.
you need to know that the mega-cd is not only about super scaler games. it's also about FMV (yeah, either you like those or not but it was important, cost tons of money and the mega-cd can do pretty good quality FMV for its time (as long as the best video codecs are used) and it can even do fullscreen FMV gameplay (didn't happen often but still)). and the mega-cd is also about animated cutscenes, CD music, voice acting, high quality PCM sound FX... I do agree that it was a bit underused overall but it still got plenty of games that made good use of its capabilities
that's like saying "wish more snes games made good use of the hardware because not every of them are mode 7 games!"...
@ben owen that wasn't the problem. the mega-cd library is filled with quality games. the problem was an accumulation of bad decisions:
-late overseas release dates (the mega-cd was released in 1991 in japan but it took 1 year to release it in north america and 1 more year to release it in europe! for what is an add-on, it was way too long and as such, the hype in europe wasn't as strong as it could have been (by 1993 next gen systems started to be released...))
-poor management (games like snatcher not even released in japan (despite being advertised) or games like lunar 1 and 2 not even released in europe (despite europe being big into JRPGs)
-a marketing too focused on FMV games. some of those are genuinely good games but there are sooo many of the best mega-cd games that stayed in obscurity (dark wizard, dennin aleste, shin megami tensei, captain tsubasa, eye of the beholder, puggsy, soul star...)
the mega-cd could have sold at least 2 times more simply with a better overall management
though I do agree that when it comes to games, the mega-cd ASIC scaling/rotation chip should indeed have been used more often, at least from sega's part
We can talk about the 16-bit ports all day, but that C64 port is everything. I'd dare say better than the Master System, given the hardware.
Very nice! I remember this game well, never got far, but was good to show graphics.
The C64 version was released only in Italy and possibly neighbouring countries, in facts English websites like GTW64 used to feature it as an unreleased game until more recent years. Original copies have reached stellar prices on Ebay.
Wow it must be quite rare.
@@RetroCore UK Press reviewed it.
96% Zzap64
Great vid, and Such an under appreciated title. My grandfather wanted to keep the grandkids interesting in coming to visit. So he picked up a Sega Genesis with the all new Sega CD attachment! I remember the first time going over, he only had: Sonic CD, Sewer Shark, Chuck Rock, and Jaguar XJ220. All 4 of which have a special place in my heart, even if we didn't really like XJ220 that much lol.
For me the track creator was the best thing about XJ220.
@@RetroCore awesome! I didn't even remember that was a feature, so that speaks volumes about how much we used it. 😀
Looks like a fun euro platformer with the main antagonist looking like Gary Glitter and it's at its best on the consoles
Great video. The addition of the out takes at the end was great.
Great video I remember first playing Chuck Rock on the Mega Drive some good memories thanks
I really like the MD version, Also if you let the music play for abit on the MD, the girl on the keyboards breaks into a solo bit which I always enjoyed. Really hard game tho, never got far.
Sure the Mega-CD version is the best one, but I think the Mega Drive version has the best soundtrack. Those tracks by Matt Furniss were amazing. The Mega-CD soundtrack, except for the first stages music which is remixed from the Mega Drive version, feels a little unspired in comparison and that's a shame. The better combo for me, is playing the Mega-CD version with replaced Mega Drive music tracks. Nice to include some funny out-takes by the way, even it seems these "new mechanics" weren't planned beforehand.
I remember renting the game for weekends for my Genesis. All though I am surprised Hanna-Barbera didn't sue Core for Sampling one of their IPs.
I'm also very surprised. The sample is definitely Captain Caveman.
As much as I am Amiga fan and I like a lot Amiga version of Chuck Rock I must admit that Sega/Mega CD is the best version maybe it has no shitting dinosaur on stage one and some text is censored, but in action it looks awesome. Backgrounds got more layers and I love CD quality sound. I hope there will be Chuck Rock 2 comparison soon and maybe BC Racers bit later :)
I very much agree, I love the Amiga version and it's great, but it would be to lie to oneself to claim that it's better than the Mega Drive port. Same thing with Chuck Rock 2, the Mega Drive version has more colors and some more levels and is a better game, even if the Amiga version is close in playability.
Son of Chuck is coming next week 👍
@@RetroCore cool :) I will be waiting than.
@@jayminer both systems got similar hardware Motorola based cpu.
@@GzegzolkaDA Yes, but very different video hardware. The Mega Drive had lots of sprites and a tilemode while the Amiga had pretty bad sprites and was basically a framebuffer but with clever hardware like the copper and blitter, so they were very different beasts. The Mega Drive definitely was better suited to action/platform-games!
Oh wow Chuck Rock! This and James Pond 2 are my earliest gaming memories! I was like 3 or 4 when I played these on our Amiga. Good times! Then I got the game again for my Mega Drive, and boy is that port good! I also tried the SNES port, but that one didn't play good at all. The speed was all wrong and the lower resolution cut down on the visibility ahead making things a bit harder. Wasn't there also some small loading times on the SNES port as well? Anyways great stuff to see and another great BotP! :)
Yes, the SNES version pauses between stages for a second while the Mega Drive version is instant.
If you ever get the chance try the Mega CD port. That's excelent.
@@RetroCore Yeah except for the cheesy voiceover in the intro that version sure looks like the definitive version of this game. Core did an amazing job utilizing the extra oomph the accessory provided and filled the disc with extra content instead of stupid fmvs which a lot of western developers unfortunately did. I just hope I can get my hands on a working Mega CD for my model 1 console. I really like the looks of the Model 1 Mega CD. Model 2 looks so cheap and silly imo, but it is also alot cheaper to buy and easier to find.
Another good Battle. The Mega CD version looks really nice. I notice in your time code list you call the Acorn Archimedes the Archenemies!
That's the good old spell checker doing that. I'll fix it soon.
I remember this game being out on home consoles when I was a kid, and I my first time seeing gameplay footage of it was in various episodes of "Nick Arcade". :D
Mega Drive version looks great! Thanks for the reminder to pick up. :)
like the sega cd port
I think I played the ST version of this, and I think I had a demo of the C64 version, though to be honest, I can't remember, it was 30 years ago. I do remember all the computer mags raving about this game across several versions.
The out-takes are great! When I watch your videos I don't even think about possible mistakes and subconsciously think that you do it all in one take. "Attacking mechanics" is a potential tongue twister- at one point it sounded like you were almost going to say "attack Metallica!"
I played this game a lot on amiga when i was younger in 90’s this intro music remind me so much thing !!!
It might sound weird, but I like how the music sounds on the Gameboy version.
The GB version is pretty cool in the sound department.
I had the game gear version of this game. Thanks for the member berries :)
I loved the art style of the Core Design team. Son of Chuck and Wonderdog were my favorites on the Sega/Mega CD.
Can't say I like Wonder Dog at all but Son of Chuck is nice.
I love Chuck Rock games, especially that with his son.
That's coming next week.
Can you do one for Chuck Rock 2: Son of Chuck?
That's coming next week
@@RetroCore YES, also you should play Merlin for the GBC when you get the chance. It's a good European Platformer.
Enrique Acosta There's quite a lot of ports on the Genesis Aladdin, but not much on the SNES. Do you think he should cover both the Genesis and SNES types or just the Genesis type?
I'm staring to notice a pattern on these battles for the port supremacy: if the Neo Geo, Saturn or Playstation aren't involved, the Sega / Mega CD is usually the winner ;)
mega-cd or mega drive =)
when I went back into what started to be "retro gaming" circa 2006 I was quite shocked at how underrated those systems were! about the mega drive it was partly due to how poor the emulation was at the time and most people were exposed to the system through emulation or emulated videos but when it comes to the mega-cd it has always been plain nonsense (i.e. cluelessness and salt) which is delicious from a mega-cd fan standpoint =]
The Mega CD was a good system. Just a shame it was never really utilised enough.
@@RetroCore the mega-cd *was* utilized enough in many instances e.g. all the core design super scaler games, silpheed, lunar 1 and 2, batman returns, sonic cd, chuck rock 2, road blaster fx, tomcat alley, dune and so on...
BUT there's one, single "area" from where it should have been used more often which is sega-developed super scaler games. it's puzzling because the mega-cd was primarily made around the ASIC scaling/rotation chip yet sega barely used it other than a few instances such as heavenly symphony f1 1993, switch or sonic cd's bonus stages
had sega made at least 2 or 3 mega-cd super scaler type games, that would have been fully satisfying but as such, there's that small taste of unaccomplishment
@@ryzmaker11 the main problem with the SEGA CD/Mega CD for many was that it was an extra add on to the Genesis/Mega Drive(yes I'm American), and that meant an added cost that a lot of people could not swallow, and more so with SEGA marketing to Young boys, and Teens who if they where not old enough to get a part time job, had to beg their parents for a Genesis/Mega Drive, and getting a SEGA CD was out of the question. I think SEGA really should have designed the Genesis/Mega Drive to be a 16 bit CD based system from the start, and gotten the jump on everyone else.
@@CommodoreFan64 never in life! the mega drive suffices on its own, rocked 'til the end of its commercial lifespan and still rocks to this day with awesome homebrews, demos, music covers and more!
had it being a CD-based system then 1° it would have lacked those awesome chiptunes which is a huge part of the system's personality and 2° this would have meant loading times for every games which would have been a major annoyance
that's why the mega-cd is so cool: it's the perfect complementary to the mega drive, expanding its capabilities in some interesting ways while not denaturing the system's singular visuals and focalising mainly on some genres which work well with CDs (RPGs, simulation games, FMV games...). sure it was quite expensive but was it? we talk about 1991 hardware, released at the same time and for about the same price as the pc engine super cd-rom² yet the mega-cd in comparison has many more cosmetic and hardware features (its own CPU, an ASIC scaling/rotation chip, 8 channels PCM chip...). the mega-cd was definitely a deluxe accessory but a worthy one
WOW! Talk about a game I haven't played on any platform in years. Good ol' Chuck is still around being what he is Mark. Very nice to see this. 8^)
Anthony...
The crapping dino... one of the funniest jokes from the Amiga version. Why did they censor it? It´s totally stupid.
Sega Japan found it to be of poor taste, asked for it to be removed.
Chuck Rock is a very interesting exemple of the differences between hardwares, especially 16bits systems. Created on Amiga, you immediatly see that it has been developed by very good guys as parallax scroll with 50fps scrolling, use of 32 colours, unforgettable music and a lot of nice SFX was not so common at the time.
But if Amiga was a brillant versatile machine that offer to users wonderful games in many genres, Megadrive was clearly designed for platform/shmup/RPG tile based games. So it was easy to add different colours on elements, making the game more colorful, despite of the reduced 512 colour palette choice. And SFX + ingame musics is so nice.
Mega CD version is clearly the best. We see a lot of differences between this one and the standard Megadrive one, that was not so common. This version really takes part of the extra power of the MegaCD module with even more colors on screen and more parallax scroll levels.
Concerning the ST version. Be sure I love Atari ST even if I'm an Amiga user, but Amiga really suffered of lazy quick conversions from ST during the first years of its life... 1991 is the beginning of the real good era. Before, a lot of guys said : "Why buying an expensive Amiga as the games are the same". That was generally right. But from 1991, lot of games were developed first on Amiga, beginning to use Amiga specific chipset. So when you take a game like chuck Rock and have to convert it to ST, that's not the same. Take an Atari ST game, convert it to Amiga and you get... an Atari ST game. Take an Amiga game, convert it to ST and you get... an Atari ST game.
Megadrive is the best port for me
I'd go with the Mega CD. It has the playability of the Mega Drive but with much more added content.
I loved this game on C64!
A great port!
Great video. Clearly illustrates how much better Japanese game development was compared to western development back in the "good ol days". Never played this back in the day, but I do remember it (I'm in my 40s).
This is not something I would have been interested in back in the day (hated goofy 'Euro' style games, which this was considered to be one of the more popular ones), but maybe I'll check this out on Genesis if I ever stumble across it in the wild. Thank you !
I'll keep it short but many of the best (including many groundbreaking) games from the "good old days" and in history in general are western games (american or european): breakout, robotron 2084, gauntlet, marble madness, lode runner, dungeon master, populous, turrican, nhl hockey, lemmings, road rash, doom, quake and so on...
even tetris or columns aren't japanese games in the first place...
I mean, japanese games are fucking amazing, yes, but western games too, period
I am exactly like you. The Euro style never did anything for me. Never liked the look of the character or the design of game. It's probably why I dislike computer games over console games.
Fun video. It's odd to see a game released for so many systems that I've never heard of. Actually, looking at Core's wikipedia page, they put out a ton of non-TombRaider games I've never heard of; maybe it's an American thing. Fun idea for a future video if you wanted to cover some of them.
Core were very popular in the UK and Europe. Itwas a sad day when they were bought out by Eidos.
"The name's Rock, Chuck Rock"
Ok *chucks a rock at him*
"...ow..."
I don't own any versions of this first game, but I do own Chuck Rock II: Son of Chuck on the Master System and Sega CD, and the spin-off game B.C. Racers on the Sega CD and 32X. I need to hunt down a copy of this first game for a platform or two. :)
Yep, may as well have the entire collection 👍
I am shocked at just how good the music for the Gameboy version was.
The Mega CD version was really good.
I agree!
Well you be doing Sega 's Hotrod any time soon love to a battle of the ports on that game fond memories playing it in the arcade
Hmm, it won't be next week but maybe during this summer.
Once again the Mega Drive prevails! It even got a "deluxe" CD version on Mega-CD (unlike the ultra lazy CD32 version) but I tend to prefer the Mega Drive cartridge version for the 1st Chuck Rock game whereas I prefer the Mega-CD version for the sequel :)
And what a cool little platformer this is with plenty of personality! I miss these european style games, they were so distinctive in their overall art direction and in many cases have solid gameplay mechanics. I don't even know what the "european scene" means nowadays whereas back then you had plenty of cool developers (Core Design, Gremlins, Lankhor, Psygnosis...). Well, I know that there are still good European studios such as Sumo Digital (the name doesn't sound much European though lol) but the sole that I know of today and which has still that distinctive European style is actually Bitmap Bureau and it's a homebrew developer (who works on the forthcoming Mega Drive game "Xeno Crisis") which is utterly cool but also means that this style of games really became niche. I guess that there are also European style homebrews for the C64 or Amiga though but I'm not aware of those. Wish this scene will keep on delivering but also wish that newcomers will keep the spirit alive!
Mark you just ruined me. Seeing this vid I was afraid that the Sega versions had a sudden boost in price (because that's the (annoying but somehow understandable) trend when some games get good exposure...) so I thought "I need to hurry up my ass!" and thus I bought the whole Chuck Rock series on Mega Drive i.e. Chuck Rock (Mega Drive) + Chuck Rock II (Mega-CD) + BC Racers (Mega-CD) :P
@ben owen Very good picks mate! I didn't know that Chuck Rock 2 came with a poster.
I seriously have a soft spot for these games. Just wish that BC Racers was a tad better (should have had more power-ups) but overall it's a nicely rounded trilogy of games.
Do you use original hardware for the Archimedes, or is it emulated? If it's emulated, what program do you use? I ask because I tried a bunch of different ones and found them to be rather lacking in features. I couldn't even get a joystick working in the one emulator that claimed to support it (but which didn't tell you how to set it up).
As for the game, I had a copy of the Amiga version, but never really liked it because of the difficulty of hitting the enemies. As you say, the attacks often seem to miss.
It's emulated, as for what emulator I don't know off the top of my head. I'll have to check when I'm back home.
OK. Did you use a joystick with it or just the keyboard?
Hmm, I think I used the keyboard. Let me check when I get home.
OK, thanks. :)
Unfortunately thats - yet another - game Ive never played on any of the systems, which is a shame. Another one on the bucket list !
The sequel is a much better game.
Woot! Woot!!!! I remember playing Chuck Rock either on MS or MD as a kid. It was one of those platformers I liked but it never stacked up against Sonic or Mario like a bunch back then but Id love to revisit it. It'd be a good one to get a reboot on the Switch.
I was blown away playing The Crash trilogy early today on my Switch. I kinda struggled to like it on PS1 even but it seems like the thing about it I didn't like has gone! Its heaps smoother and its a treat to play hey. I dunno if you've played it but definitely worth getting if your a platform game fan.
Cool vid m8!
Crash has never been a character or series that appealed to me. Maybe I should give the remakes a try.
I don't think the ST version is a lazy port. It seems they did the best with the hardware they could at the time. If they incorporated some of the other features such as sampled sounds the gameplay would probably have been even slower. The ST remember had no hardware scrolling and no blitter. An STE version would have done much better as this machine could do these things and also had a sound chip comparable to the Amiga in reproduction quality. But sadly as you know the STE's enhanced capabilities were hardly used in commercial games. It probably should have been released in 1988 for this to happen.
Great comparison video 👍
It's a shame that the STE was rarely used.
Mark is right the ST version could have been better. just look turrican, was released before but runs smoother and has music + sound fx at once (and some f***ing amazing music at that!). the ST doesn't have support for sprites/scrollings but those things can be done in software to some extent
and of course an STe version could have been even even better! the STe being that overlooked was criminal
@@RetroCore would of needed to of arrived when Atari originally promised and been the Amiga beater they claimed it was going to be, to get any real traction at retail.
As it was, it was far too little, far too late.
Typical Tramiel Era Atari.
Great Comparison! I played the GameGear Version back in the day, Great Fun Game!
The drum in the Genesis band looks like the Virgin Games logo. Perhaps it was developed by them? I should check that out.
It was published by Virgin.
Sega Mega Drive & Sega Mega CD were the best versions
I think the SNES version "runs too fast" for you because of the system's cropped resolution of 256x224 before being turned into fullscreen shown in the video. Rating the ports, the obvious top 3 would be:
1) Mega CD
2) Mega Drive
3) SNES
The rest are good, but nowhere near in the leagues of those three.
Runs the same on actual hardware, so no... Does not deserve a spot on top3 the snes version.
@@jimkrom yes it does deserve, I liked it.
@@turricanrocks1552 there's people out there who liked Jekyll and Hyde on the nes. That still doesn't make it a worthy game... Also to repeat myself, the reason it goes that fast on the snes, is piss poor programming. Like i said it runs the same on actual hardware
@@jimkrom well, okay then, one thing for sure that MD version soundtrack was awesome!
@@jimkrom well, okay then, one thing for sure that MD version soundtrack was awesome!
Do you mind if I ask which C64 emulator you use? I've never found one I like/worked properly for me.
I use WinVICE. There are many versions of it though so best to get the latest one. this is the official homepage - vice-emu.sourceforge.net/
One of those games i ve heard about but never actually played, shame Mega CD version have some censorship, but even with it, its still best one, Atari STis most disappointing, even 8 bit versions had more effort put into them.
I loved this game "back in my daay"... Hoping you might do a BotP for Rick Dangerous... :)
Other than that, keep up the great work!
I think Rick. Dangerous is only on the Amiga and St.
How can I have a dream about Chuck Rock wake up, check out UA-cam (whilst having a poo I might add) and this video is suggested? It’s like The MIB are now monitoring my dreams! 💩
4:16 I had a Demo on the Atari ST for a long time before I got a hold of the game... And I can be very honest that it was this game and Lemmings 2: The Tribes that made me WANT AN AMIGA over an Atari ST...
Its only by looking back at @Retro Core that I see now that while the Amiga was a GREAT MACHINE... Actually the ATARI ST often had the better ports early on...
the ST kicked asses during the 80s (especially since it was released for less than two thirds of the amiga price) but some developers started to be lazy from 90s debuts (psygnosis in particular...) but it still got many quality multiplats from that point e.g. vroom, maupiti island, gobliiins, hunter, wrath of the demon...
the only thing I wish is that developers didn't overlook the ST upgrades so much, the STe in particular (while the falcon I can understand given its rather late release date)
Going to point it out, it seems that you left some kind of trainer enabled on the Commodore 64 section.
Also, I think there's also a mistake on the Megadrive section commentary since it does seems to have the same amount of parallax as the original Amiga version while the Mega CD version is the one with lots of parallax.
Ah yes. When filming the C64 footage it was around 1am so I left the trainer on just to get through the game without having to bother to use any skills.
I always used to cancel out at the side-by-side section... is there normally bloopers at the end? #revelation
Not always. I think I've only added once before. Normally when I just can't get something right as in todays case.
Love the Mega CD version! It's noteworthy that it also features twice (or so) the parallax layers, compared to the MD game.
That's right, it does.
I have this game on the genesis and I like it a lot! I wonder if square enix owns the rights to chuck rock? Imagine if at e3 next year, square enix announces a new big budget chuck rock game. That would be interesting to see!
I think poor old chuck has long been retired.
13:03
Would that be due to 50hz/60hz differeces?
Mega CD version looks the best to me, although I prefer the music of the Mega Drive version
Edit: would you mind doing Manic Miner? There are many ports of that
Nope, all versions were running at the correct refresh rate.
Manic miner I'll add to the list of future shows.
The Gameboy version wasn’t developed by Core Design, it was developed by Spidersoft
Good stuff! Did Core ever get in any trouble for lifting the "UNGAH-BUNGA" from Captain Caveman? I believe he was voiced by the great Mel Blanc.
I don't think they ever did.
I'm glad you did Chuck Rock, it's one of my favourites. I had it on sms and smd. I didn't like the sequel.
@ben owen I just thought the sequel wasn't funny. I didn't like the main character.
SEGA versions are the best!
Well, talk about a classic from my childhood, here! One of the four or five first games I ever rented for my Mega Drive. Aaaand, of course, music by Furniss & Hollingsworth. Krisalis was on top back then.
Had this game os the Atari ST, hated it so damn much.
Sure the Mega Drive and Mega CD versions are pretty nice, specially the CD one with lots of stages! I like Chuck Rock but I think the sequel has much better gameplay and soundtrack.
I played this on Amiga. I love this game and it's music band.
SNES looks worse than MD, too low res and much less screen real estate which is what makes it feel too fast when moving.
I never could get into this game. Thought it was boring and hated the attack system,felt sloppy. Amazing that it was ported to a lot systems. It no secret chuck rock was a hit though.
The attack system is very sloppy on the home computer versions. The consoles seem to feel much tighter.
Mega CD Chuck had additional baddies added, plus a password system, if I remember correctly?
It may have done. I can't really recall.
Grew up with the Mega CD version :)
I know all too well how it is when you are recording voice work and get stuck on a single bit of it like that haha
Yeah, seems Yakumo-sama has met his ultimate end-level boss: English language ;-)
Once you showed the Mega Drive version, I thought we had a clear winner. But then you showed the Mega CD port! The SNES version also seems about on par with the Mega Drive one, but probably doesn't control as smoothly, as that's almost always the case as someone that owns both systems. Yeah, Blast Processing was more than just a marketing gimmick, the difference in response time between the two consoles really can't be understated. The Game Boy version is cut back, as to be expected of such a weak system, but man does that music sound nice! Nice use of arpeggios, as to be expected of a European-developed game.
the snes version suffers from the system's flawed resolution (which is square-shaped and thus the game looks stretched with wrong aspect ratio once in 4:3) and it also has some bad sound FX (like when jumping, dunno what were they thinking there, even the enemies got that hilariously bad sound FX!). also snes title screen sequence is all messed, the band doesn't play accordingly to the music at all!
The Mega CD version is clearly the way to go for playing Chuck Rock.
Yeah if I had a Mega CD I'd definitely get that one. However, since I don't, the Mega Drive version is close enough.
@@zanegandini5350 the mega-cd version is objectively the definitive one but the mega drive version is already very good and my personal fav. it has cooler music IMO and the title screen sequence has better band synchronization regarding the instruments played. I love this sequence, it's such a nice touch!
Yeah, the Mega Drive was way ahead of its time as far as home consoles are concerned. Even today on HD TVs it has sharp RGB output, and quick response times. The SNES was so behind in terms of processing power and picture clarity that it's insane Nintendo even thought it was okay to release it two years after, and at a higher price point at that! But to their credit, it sold far more than the Mega Drive did.
I've never been a big fan of this game, and I guess that's from having owned the Game Gear port as a kid in which I found a bit boring with the lack of music, but I guess if I had to choose one version to play it would be the SEGA CD/Mega CD version as it has the best music, and all the updates of the Genesis/Mega Drive version.
Looks fun!
the out takes are in ! ..lol
wasnt there an arcade release for chuck rock?
Nope.
I always liked Chuck Rock. Decent game.
Having now seen all the ports, I'd say that looks wise the Mega Drive and Mega CD versions have the best colours. The Amiga version suffers from the standard Dual Playfield problem of having too few colours to use on screen and the SNES version, in my opinion, is too saturated. The Archimedes version seem off somehow - I can't quite put my finger on it, but it looks odd to me. Maybe it's the low saturation of the colours, I don't know.
The Mega CD actually adds some nice extra parallax effects as well. Seems that Core knew their Mega CD stuff, the system generally disappointed me (not enough changed over the standard MD), but this game actually looks pretty good.
On the topic of parallax effects, you mention them in the Mega Drive section, but I don't actually see them? What am I missing?
Sound wise, I always will have a soft spot for the Amiga original, though the 16-bit Sega versions do have a nice sound track. The SNES sounds muffled somehow, for both sound effects and music. I notice that a lot on the system, don't know why it is but so many sound effects and bits of music on that system sound muffled.
C64 version is a reasonable effort considering the limits of the system, but I think it would probably have been a good deal better if the bird carrying/dino crossing scenes were about twice as fast as they are (they take far too long). Chuck also seems a bit slow and I'm not a fan of the dithered look to the background.
The 8-bit Sega consoles also look quite decent. Wonder why the Master System wasn't more popular. Every time I see it, it seems to be a very decent performer, often featuring games that look a lot nicer than the NES versions.
The MD version has parallax where the ST and Amiga didn't. It's not as good as the Mega CD mind you.
Retro Core I’ll have to take your word for it, then. I see both the MD and Amiga version using two layers and don’t see any extra parallax on the MD version.
Perhaps it’s in a part you didn’t show? I mean, I do believe you - it’s probably there but I can’t see it ;)
@Rooflesoft Games I never knew Nintendo had such restrictions. Interesting, I'm sure that will have had a big effect on the library.
The Amiga version no music?
I never played this game, i only played a bit of Chuck Rock 2 on the MegaDrive. I might try it out cause it does look interesting.
The second game is better.
Have you done Tempest before? I’ve gone through the playlist and couldn’t see it.
The issue is, there are not many official tempest ports, only inofficial rip-offs. From the top of my head, I'm only aware of the Atari 8-Bit and the Spectrum ports. Similar issue with Berzerk or Gorf. He hopefully may do a Wizard of Wor or Scramble BoTP in the future. These were ported to more systems.
No, I've not done Tempest yet. It will be covered at some point.
@Frank Schneider The BBC version by Superior Software is official, one of the few good BBC ports as normally they were very close with silly names like Planetoid for Defender etc
Yes, you are right. I'm not too familiar with the BBC. And I'm sure there might be some others
Just double checked the Mega CD version.
Improved controls
Music and sound FX
More variety in the music, levels larger and more varied.
Password System.
Censored, so no pooping Dinosaur and no Ophelia bending over in the intro.
Acorn Archimedes, please, not Acorn Archenemies (in your description).
Core Design didn't code the port : Krisalis did.
LOL I didn't even see that. How goes the SOTB any ETA for completion or a demo?
@@daishi5571 Well once scrolling of the trees is implemented (it should be the 1st ever 'dual playfield' 256 colours implementation on the Archie 8 Mhz and running at 50 fps) I will release a teaser.
I am quite busy at the moment with some real estate investments but I think for the end of August it should be ready.
I know exactly how to do it.
How to perfectly code that.
Some people will have the opportunity to die very soon. See that, and laugh : eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=1195620#post1195620
It is very funny as I would have probably never decided to work on this port if there had not been a few idiots, Amiga fanatics always bashing the Archimedes they know and understand nothing about ...
Thanks to them the Amiga will now clearly appear for a system much inferior to the Archie. In 3D everybody knew it, now people will have to admit in 2D too the Archie at 8 Mhz trounces the Amoeba.
ROTFL
That's bloody auto spell checker that's done that strange spelling. I'll fix it.
Bet they’re regretting naming the bad guy Gary Gritter now... :3
I bet they do. Mind you, even when this game was released Garry Glitter was dodgy.
I heavily recommend that you play Merlin on the GBC if you want to experience one of the better European Side-Scrollers.
I remember when this came out for the Amiga, The intro music was nice, but I played it for a few minutes before I realized what a bad game it really was. The sound effects are nice and so are the graphics, that's about it. Amiga always with it's platform games, most are horrible. Amiga devs did not have a clue on how to make a good platform game, just pathetic.
It is true that most Amiga platform games suck but there are a few good ones.
Ruff'n Tumble is one of these worthy exceptions. ;)
@@nekononiaow Just checked a video of that game and it seems to be rather good. Never played it, thanks for the tip.
Chuck suffered somewhat by time it arrived on the SNES.
SNES ZONE pointing out it was still a decent platform game, but it was too short on levels to provide a lasting challenge and the platform genre had moved on by this point.
Can't really argue with that.
The intro reminds me of Kwik Snax: don't know if Chuck Rock ripped it off (it came out a little after Kwik Snax) or if they were in development at the same time and came up with the same idea independently. Check the WoL longplay of Kwik Snax on Spectrum to see what I mean.
I know the name but I can't remember the product.
The SNES, Mega Drive, Amiga 500, C64, Game Gear/Boy, and M-CD versions are the best (I don't care if the SNES version is too fast!). The rest range from good to EWW. Can you make a comparison of Jim Power for Atari ST, Amiga (best version), Amstrad CPC, SNES (worst version tbh), MS-DOS, and the unreleased and unfinished Mega Drive versions?
But yes, Chuck Rock got ported very well for most systems. Nice to see! Modern systems using emulation might have added lags throught.
For Jim Power, there is only one good version, that is the Amiga version. The console versions is just pure crap as hell with annoying scrolling and all! Im do must admit as Atari ST here was not a bad effort at all. Its nicely playable. There is a MS DOS version as well, which is just crap as the SNES is. BUT also there is a Steam version as well, where they finally fixed the crappy confuction scrolling from both the SNES and the DOS version. Nice!
Jim Power will deffinety be covered at some point.
@@spacefractal excuse me but what??? I actually enjoyed the SNES version. I also don't understand what's so bad about the scrolling, sure it goes to the W R O N G direction, but I pay no attention to it. The only good versions to me were the Amiga, SNES, and Atari ST versions! :)
Im diddent say any bad with the SNES for this game. Im talked about Jim Power. Im cant just stand that kind of scrolling at all. End of Line. Just hate that scrolling in any games that do it, but im do like the STEAM SNES version of it.
@Space Fractal it's not my problem that you focus too much into the background!
I said it before and I'll say it again, I don't pay attention to it! It's a VERY GOOD GAME, and you think it's bad JUST BY ONE THING?
really didn't like the original character, glad they moved to his son in the sequel, much prefered the sequel overall really. great vid though and very interesting to see the comparisons
Chuck is a bit ugly 😋
The sega genesis version looks good port and very funny
I played the snes version looks a bit fast compared with the Genesis
I can't understand why they took the music off from the Master System, since the console was pretty much capable of handle it.
They probably just couldn't be bothered to compose any.
That fucking "attacking mechanics" xD
the dinosaur badies walk and look like they are bit special lol
Mega cd wins !!!
if the mega-cd is involved then it usually has superior if not definitive versions of multiplats (chuck rock 1 and 2, wolfchild, popful mail, final fight, eye of the beholder, flink, shin megami tensei, puggsy and so on...)
the mega-cd is awesome! but when you look at some comments, it's still misunderstood ^^
you know i think there is no such thing as windows 05 or classic mac os port of chuck rock since ms dos is not ported well Core Design didn't care and bother or is it the fact ms dos is not supported for todays windows now?
im guessing ms dos is just an old dos from microsoft. which it was now called command prompt or terminal well dos support ended in 2001.
Core have also tweaked the Mettacking Achanics!!! :P
Shame the CD32 version didn't use its AGA capabilities - it would have been as good as the Mega CD version.
Yep, sadly it's 100% identical to the Amiga.
Only true gamers play on an Acorn!
Unfortunately the Archimedes library is somewhat ehm limited. The only game I know of, worth being played on the Archimedes is Elite.
@@frankschneider6156 i was just joking I dont even know what an acorn is lol
Acorn was an English company that produced home computers in the 80s. Most well known are the BBC Micro and the Archimedes (the one mentioned here). Today Acorn is known as ARM and is specialized on designing low-energy RISC CPUs (you may have heard of them, if you've ever seen a smart phone or tablet or any other Android device).
@@frankschneider6156 neat thx for the info
@@frankschneider6156Lemmings (and sequels), Populous, Wolfenstein 3D, Chocks Away (and sequels), Speedball 2, Elite, Cannon Fodder, SimCity, Break 147, Repton 3, Holed Out, Interdictor II, Mig-29 Fulcrum, Pacmania, Pandora's Box, E-Type, Pipemania, Zarch (Virus), Chuck Rock, Alone in the Dark, Iron Lord, Nevryon, James Pond, Fireball II, GODS, are a couple dozen Arc Games that were as good, if not better than their Amiga / PC / ST equivalents. Was more a questions as to whether you could afford the £100 premium on an Amiga 500 / 600 for an Acorn A3000 / A3010, or the £150 on an Atari ST / STE, for the more or less 32bit ARM wedge (only a single 20-bit SIM slot on the motherboard, and the nobbled MEMEC1a, so you couldn't install no-more than 4MB of memory), with 8-channel sound, over the 16-Bit, 4 channel sound, at best, US wedges, or the couple grand IBM PS2 or clone. Then again the total cost of ownership was higher for an Acorn, as there were fewer dodgy games floppies circulating in schools, pubs, street markets, forcing owners to buy originals.
hey mark can you get back to the formula of arcade to homeports and do battle of the ports to marvel vs capcom 2 please?
@ben owen i know but i think its time to get some hot fire stuff so thats why i suggested marvel vs capcom 2
Marvel VS Capcom 2 can't be done because I don't have access to the PS2 version. I need that first
Can you do Impossible Mission sometime bud ?? Thanks.
Sure, it's on the to do list.
Top man.
I consider it a technically well made game but the gameplay is not very good, such a short distance attack with the hump move, kind of just want to swing a club frankly as a caveman. Nice level designs but the rock chucking mechanics could be better Ie. too realistic.
Did some screen shot comparisons and the ST window is smaller and not so much redrawn as palette swapped to a worse set of colors, I think the increased darkness is from cutbacks in the tile set since there's more grass in the background on Amiga. Yeah the AA port was a surprise.
Despite that dumb censorship of lady eye candy I'd probably go with the SCD one. Jeez even crapping dinos cut, I'm sure they pooped a lot heh. Quite vibrant on SNES but you can really hear that muffled quality often heard on that platform.
Funny Chuck looks a tad thin on SMS, seems like a good port but I'd have used a blue sky to cheer it up some Re. permanent midnight. Not bad scale and zoom on GG, although the lack of music on both is unfortunate. Odd in places but I like the direction the GB port took, mainly there is no depth contrast because everything is bold (black not dark grey)which could have been fixed.
Really quite nice the C64 port, vibrant and not just endless black backgrounds, some hardware limits but I don't think it could have been done any better. :D
I'm sure the Master System and Game Gear ports are based upon the Atari ST version. Seems that the developer ported over the sprites without any modifications which has resulted in the stretched look.
I am always surprised to see that c64 has better scrolling than the ST. If only it weren't for that awful graphics.
c64 has hard support for scrolling but if coded well the ST can handle scrollings just fine. see the turrican games, starray, return to genesis or bio challenge for instance. the huge advantages the ST has over the C64 are the more powerful CPU and better color palette. as such you can do a good combination of hard coded and soft coded stuff
@@ryzmaker11 and resolution. Also the updated versions of the ST had more capabilities
@@Corsa15DT yes and yes (although sadly the atari STe and falcon were left underused)