all the other schluter profiles have a corner attachment and I couldn't find one for the jolly profile. I am SO happy to know there isn't one and your video of how to install this profile. I love the simple thin look of this profile. THANK YOU! I was holding up my project just trying to find the corner connectors....now I can tile!!
I'm going to share an alternate installation. If your back is any type of mosaic type tile, you definitely want to do the back first. Then when you install the top, bottom and sides, it will hide any slightly jagged cuts.
Im getting ready to tile my shower but the niche came out a bit low. Which in this video it states it’s better to have a lower niche vs higher niche. I understand since my niche is lower I can raise there inner piece with more thinset to match the height of tile. My concern and question is, wouldn’t that leave me short on the top side? I’m using 12 x 24 and tile is about 1/4 higher on the niche. I think I’m better off cutting the bottom layer and making it even as 1/4” wouldn’t be enough height for the 1/2 this time rises with thinset. I believe if your niche is low it needs to be low enough to make up for tile and thinset which is 1/2” 😢 let me know what I’m missing here 🤦🏽♂️
Hi Maverick - I think it may be easier to discuss this together over the phone - our Customer Service team may be able to advise, or they can connect you with your Schluter rep to talk through the options. 888-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Thanks!
Hi Monique, can you please give our Product Support team a call to discuss your project in a bit more detail, and they will be able to advise from there. 800-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Thanks!
Ouf, tough question, this is a bit of an older video, so don't have those details handy... were you looking for info on how to choose your profile size? Let us know how we can help.
Yes, framing is critical. The long niche is a custom niche. In this video, we refer to our specific Schluter KERDI-BOARD custom niche video for all the details on how to install a custom niche. In that video, we mention that the framing was already installed in the wall cavity to properly support the niche. It's always best to refer to local building codes for framing details.
how do you line up the niche with the tile so perfectly while making a solid niche? I typically all 2x4's into the wall so I can screw the nice and the kerdi board into the 2x4's but you do this when the wall is open. How would I do this if I already have the board up?
Hi there! You will need to center the edges of the niche (flipped around) on the 16" studs (where your screws are), so the niche can share the stud with the KERDI-BOARD. Find the height you need to match up with the projected tile height, trace around the level niche with the edges on the center of the studs, and then cut the board out so you can install the niche flush to the remaining KERDI-BOARD. You only need to fasten to the studs on the sides. It is not necessary to install framing above or below the niche to fasten to. You can check out the instructions here: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Building-Panels/KERDI-BOARD-Panels/Schluter%C2%AE-KERDI-BOARD-SN/p/KERDI_BOARD-SN Our Customer Support Team is also happy to help should you have more questions: US: 1-888-472-4588 Canada: 1-800-667-8746 Hope this helps!
@@schlutersystems1 okay thanks. I always had a 2x4 below for it to sit on. I could still do this if I wanted the niche horizontal? Just make the framing changes first?
Hello! Awesome job! What is the thickness of the tile that you used for the bottom of the niche? I’m trying to figure out if I need to set my niche a little bit lower than yours since my tile is close to 3/8 inch. I am using the jolly trim as well and will set it the same way as the second example. Thank you
Hi, I have a schluter shower TT pan that I want to install. Can I use modified thinset to affix it to the plywood substrate? And if so do I then use unmodified thinset for laying tiles and laying the kerdi band? Part of my questions directly relates to the point when you embed the drain. I was made to understand that everything above the pan must use unmodified thinset. If so, how do i deal with the excess modified thinset that pushes out when I'm embedding the drain? Does this adversely impact my installation? I would really appreciate if someone could get me in the right direction. Side note I'll be using either customs or a Mapie brand thinset.
Hi there! Schluter ALL-SET and FAST-SET modified thinset mortars are designed to use both under and over KERDI products. If using another brand, please use an unmodified thinset mortar. Here is our technical handbook for installation steps and some information on thinset mortars. sccpublic.s3-external-1.amazonaws.com/sys-master/images/h3e/h33/9078316269598/Shower%20System%20Installation%20Handbook.pdf If you would like to discuss more, please contact our customer support team--they'd be happy to help you out! US 800-472-4588 CA 800-667-8746
Thank you very much I'll have a look at it. So to bond the schluter tray to plywood if I'm understanding you correctly I will use unmodified thinset if I use a different brand thinset?
Hi Ali, Here are the instructions from our Handbook: Note: When using the prefabricated shelf, determine the desired height of the shelf and mark with a level line. Set tile up to that line on the back and sides of the niche. Butter the sides and back of the shelf with Schluter SET®, ALL-SET®, FAST-SET®, or unmodified thin-set mortar and solidly embed it in the niche, resting on the previously installed tile. The shelf may be raised at the back to create a slope, or the tile may be set on a slope, to prevent water from pooling in the finished application. You can also consult the Handbook here: sccpublic.s3-external-1.amazonaws.com/sys-master/images/hd2/hf8/9078314237982/Shower%20System%20Installation%20Handbook.pdf
Hi Brandon, sorry, I really don't know. We have a lot of tile hanging around and pull them out for these video shoots... what you might do, is take a picture to your local tile dealer to show them, they might know or be able to recommend something similar. Wish we could help more.
Schluter products are overrated and overpriced. Also followed mixture procedure of their All set cement and found out that the wall membrane did not adhere to the mold resistant drywall consistently. I couldn't take a chance expecting this membrane to support wall tiles. Schluter warranty is only on paper. They squirm out of honoring their warranty by finding excuses. All contractors with years of experience I spoke to stay away from Schluter products.
Hi there! Sorry to hear you are having trouble with membrane and thin set. We'd like to know a bit more about what happened and would like to connect you with your rep. Please send us a DM with your name, zip code, and phone number and we'll put you in touch with him/her.
all the other schluter profiles have a corner attachment and I couldn't find one for the jolly profile. I am SO happy to know there isn't one and your video of how to install this profile. I love the simple thin look of this profile. THANK YOU! I was holding up my project just trying to find the corner connectors....now I can tile!!
So glad you like the Jolly, it's a great little profile, and you are correct, no corner pieces for this specific profile. Enjoy your project!
Best video I've seen so far on this topic, particularly the Schluter Jolly profiles. Such a help. Thank you.
Hi there! Thank you! Glad you liked it 😊
Bottom first, then the back.
I'm going to share an alternate installation. If your back is any type of mosaic type tile, you definitely want to do the back first. Then when you install the top, bottom and sides, it will hide any slightly jagged cuts.
C'est du beau travail! Merci des conseils.
Good job end good explaining thank you
Very nice finished
It appears you put the sides in first instead of the top as in your other videos. The sides will support top piece
do you have a video showing installation of the divider for 12/28?
Hi Jacob! Yes we have a video showing the shelf being installed inside the niche. Here is the link:
ua-cam.com/video/697IqAYmpnk/v-deo.html
Im getting ready to tile my shower but the niche came out a bit low. Which in this video it states it’s better to have a lower niche vs higher niche. I understand since my niche is lower I can raise there inner piece with more thinset to match the height of tile. My concern and question is, wouldn’t that leave me short on the top side? I’m using 12 x 24 and tile is about 1/4 higher on the niche. I think I’m better off cutting the bottom layer and making it even as 1/4” wouldn’t be enough height for the 1/2 this time rises with thinset. I believe if your niche is low it needs to be low enough to make up for tile and thinset which is 1/2” 😢 let me know what I’m missing here 🤦🏽♂️
Hi Maverick - I think it may be easier to discuss this together over the phone - our Customer Service team may be able to advise, or they can connect you with your Schluter rep to talk through the options. 888-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Thanks!
are the niches fireproof (the candle in the niche)? no need to add movement joint spacing in niches?
So with your guys install using the Kerdi Waterproofing membrane you go over drywall rather that using cement board?
Or is that just a white cement board?
Hi there, just regular drywall is fine!
How long after install Schluter Kerdi (waterproof member) can install the ceramics?
Hi there, after KERDI, tile can be installed right away 🍊
Hi. What application is best for mini natural field stone? I'm looking for a solution. Thanks!
Hi Monique, can you please give our Product Support team a call to discuss your project in a bit more detail, and they will be able to advise from there. 800-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Thanks!
What are the sizes of tiles and profiles used here?
Ouf, tough question, this is a bit of an older video, so don't have those details handy... were you looking for info on how to choose your profile size? Let us know how we can help.
4:25 this is the only acceptable method for a DIY niche. All the other methods have cut long pieces while thinset is drying and tile is not down.
No mention of how to frame studs around the long niche before the board goes up. It is critical especially if the wall is load bearing.
Yes, framing is critical. The long niche is a custom niche. In this video, we refer to our specific Schluter KERDI-BOARD custom niche video for all the details on how to install a custom niche. In that video, we mention that the framing was already installed in the wall cavity to properly support the niche. It's always best to refer to local building codes for framing details.
how do you line up the niche with the tile so perfectly while making a solid niche? I typically all 2x4's into the wall so I can screw the nice and the kerdi board into the 2x4's but you do this when the wall is open. How would I do this if I already have the board up?
Hi there! You will need to center the edges of the niche (flipped around) on the 16" studs (where your screws are), so the niche can share the stud with the KERDI-BOARD. Find the height you need to match up with the projected tile height, trace around the level niche with the edges on the center of the studs, and then cut the board out so you can install the niche flush to the remaining KERDI-BOARD. You only need to fasten to the studs on the sides. It is not necessary to install framing above or below the niche to fasten to. You can check out the instructions here: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Building-Panels/KERDI-BOARD-Panels/Schluter%C2%AE-KERDI-BOARD-SN/p/KERDI_BOARD-SN
Our Customer Support Team is also happy to help should you have more questions:
US: 1-888-472-4588
Canada: 1-800-667-8746
Hope this helps!
@@schlutersystems1 okay thanks. I always had a 2x4 below for it to sit on. I could still do this if I wanted the niche horizontal? Just make the framing changes first?
Correct!
@@Jeziorski7 their boxes are different than piece by piece board
@@LightGesture what?
Should the grout line between the profile and tile be the same as the overall grout line size? If so, can we put in spacers there?
Hi Ceeloc, the grout line with our profiles should be 1/16" to 1/8". It's fine to use spacers.
Hello! Awesome job! What is the thickness of the tile that you used for the bottom of the niche? I’m trying to figure out if I need to set my niche a little bit lower than yours since my tile is close to 3/8 inch. I am using the jolly trim as well and will set it the same way as the second example. Thank you
Hi there! This tile is 9mm-thick, so very very close to 3/8 inch.
What is the name of the spacers. Is it carried by Schluter or big box shops
Hi Hannah, these aren't carried by Schluter but have been told that the brand is QEP. Hope this helps!
Hi, I have a schluter shower TT pan that I want to install. Can I use modified thinset to affix it to the plywood substrate? And if so do I then use unmodified thinset for laying tiles and laying the kerdi band? Part of my questions directly relates to the point when you embed the drain. I was made to understand that everything above the pan must use unmodified thinset. If so, how do i deal with the excess modified thinset that pushes out when I'm embedding the drain? Does this adversely impact my installation? I would really appreciate if someone could get me in the right direction. Side note I'll be using either customs or a Mapie brand thinset.
Hi there! Schluter ALL-SET and FAST-SET modified thinset mortars are designed to use both under and over KERDI products. If using another brand, please use an unmodified thinset mortar. Here is our technical handbook for installation steps and some information on thinset mortars. sccpublic.s3-external-1.amazonaws.com/sys-master/images/h3e/h33/9078316269598/Shower%20System%20Installation%20Handbook.pdf
If you would like to discuss more, please contact our customer support team--they'd be happy to help you out!
US 800-472-4588
CA 800-667-8746
Thank you very much I'll have a look at it. So to bond the schluter tray to plywood if I'm understanding you correctly I will use unmodified thinset if I use a different brand thinset?
Correct!
I prefer to mitre the profiles.
Do you attache the shelf with screws or motor ?
Hi Ali,
Here are the instructions from our Handbook:
Note: When using the prefabricated shelf, determine the desired height of the shelf and mark with a level line. Set tile up to that line on the back and sides of the niche. Butter the sides and back of the shelf with Schluter SET®, ALL-SET®, FAST-SET®, or unmodified thin-set mortar and solidly embed it in the niche, resting on the previously installed tile. The shelf may be raised at the back to create a slope, or the tile may be set on a slope, to prevent water from pooling in the finished application.
You can also consult the Handbook here: sccpublic.s3-external-1.amazonaws.com/sys-master/images/hd2/hf8/9078314237982/Shower%20System%20Installation%20Handbook.pdf
what is the large format tile used here?
Hi Brandon, sorry, I really don't know. We have a lot of tile hanging around and pull them out for these video shoots... what you might do, is take a picture to your local tile dealer to show them, they might know or be able to recommend something similar. Wish we could help more.
This trim is very difficult to work with
Hi Neil! Which profile are you referring to?
Are you using Allset?
Hi there,
Yes, ALL SET was used on this project.
Thanks!
Great video for you DIYers out there
Can I put a led light on the diche or all around the shower with this system?
Hi Daniel, Mind giving our Product Support team a call?
US 800-472-4588
CA 800-667-8746
Thanks!
I always do a 45 in both jolly application. Cutting the trim to 90’ it looks unprofessional imo.
Excelente Trabajo!
hot damn that's nice
That watch thou
Schluter products are overrated and overpriced. Also followed mixture procedure of their All set cement and found out that the wall membrane did not adhere to the mold resistant drywall consistently. I couldn't take a chance expecting this membrane to support wall tiles. Schluter warranty is only on paper. They squirm out of honoring their warranty by finding excuses. All contractors with years of experience I spoke to stay away from Schluter products.
Hi there! Sorry to hear you are having trouble with membrane and thin set. We'd like to know a bit more about what happened and would like to connect you with your rep. Please send us a DM with your name, zip code, and phone number and we'll put you in touch with him/her.