Almost Adopted: The H&K XM-8 Family

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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    Today we are in H&K's Grey Room in Virginia, taking a look at the XM-8 program. The rifle evolved form the kinetic energy carbine portion of the doomed XM29/OICW program, and eventually became the G36 rifle. In between those two, however, it was the XM-8, and it came close to adoption by the US military.The XM-8 was designed to be a very modular system, with a variety of interchangeable stocks, handguards, optics and accessories. We will take a look at all of these different elements, as well as the disassembly and mechanical function of the design.

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  • @raygun301
    @raygun301 5 років тому +10007

    I feel like Ian has broke into the secret vault of H&K and is just fiddling around with all the guns and making as many videos before he is found by the staff

    • @Xaevryn
      @Xaevryn 5 років тому +907

      "Damnit Ian! How do you keep getting in here?! Get out!" *spritzes with water bottle*

    • @d.f.9140
      @d.f.9140 5 років тому +398

      it's the whole opposite.. we put brass in varios calibers on the ground like a trail and he follows to all the unviewed guns.
      It's like Hänsel und Gretel or Schnipseljagd for gunnerds

    • @mikereuben6913
      @mikereuben6913 5 років тому +206

      Pretty sure he's not wearing any pants in that vault... And I don't blame him one bit. Lol.

    • @darthtrump4428
      @darthtrump4428 5 років тому +23

      @@mikereuben6913
      wat?

    • @NorHeadHunter
      @NorHeadHunter 5 років тому +50

      If that was the case, he would have released a G-11 video.

  • @savage7882
    @savage7882 4 роки тому +5850

    Manufacturers: This is your standard rifle
    Ordinance: Yes
    Manufacturers: And you want to replace it
    Ordinance: Yup
    Manufacturers:
    So if i make you a new one thats better and meets all the requirements you'll use it right?
    Ordinance: That makes sense to me
    Manufacturers:
    Okay here it is
    Ordinance: I dont want it

    • @JelloThatsMellow
      @JelloThatsMellow 4 роки тому +78

      You know nothing Jon Snow...

    • @dmitrizorkin3851
      @dmitrizorkin3851 4 роки тому +27

      Maybe becouse its not so much better?

    • @atomic_wait
      @atomic_wait 4 роки тому +134

      @Eredin, King of the Wild Hunt Ah dun wunt it. Ah nevah have. She's muh M-16.

    • @BDNeon
      @BDNeon 4 роки тому +70

      "What's even in these boxes anyway?!" "My rifles."

    • @ethanschuster4796
      @ethanschuster4796 4 роки тому +34

      Spongebob reference lol

  • @fatford4209
    @fatford4209 3 роки тому +3566

    There’s an alternative dimension where this is the standard issue US service rifle and I want to live there

    • @b.btheheartpainkiller
      @b.btheheartpainkiller 3 роки тому +253

      Remember metal gear solid 4?

    • @TheEnderBand
      @TheEnderBand 3 роки тому +175

      The rifles and guns in the first Mass Effect look like the descendants of these

    • @davelowesky8054
      @davelowesky8054 3 роки тому +71

      It’s hard to justify the us military to buy a German made weapon over a USA made weapon and issue it across the board as the standard issue rifle

    • @duncansmith3659
      @duncansmith3659 3 роки тому +33

      @@b.btheheartpainkiller rat patrols signature weapon

    • @enjin12345
      @enjin12345 3 роки тому +150

      @@davelowesky8054 the marines are trying to push to the hk416 also my service rifle in the army was an FN not a colt so it's not uncommon for the us to use foreign weapons

  • @kedarraman6690
    @kedarraman6690 3 роки тому +328

    I feel like Ian just materialises into Rock Island auction and the h&k hq with his Camera equipment and fresh muffins for everyone and no one even bats an eye and the new guys think he's just one of those cryptid employees

  • @ben9820
    @ben9820 5 років тому +2758

    [desire to know more intensifies]

    • @Coituz2323
      @Coituz2323 5 років тому +94

      FUcking beat me to it
      I'M DOING MY PART!

    • @alexsieckmann6659
      @alexsieckmann6659 5 років тому +10

      Ian should do the MP5K Prototype next

    • @ben9820
      @ben9820 5 років тому +29

      @Gyro Remember Buenos Aires

    • @maxwellriff
      @maxwellriff 5 років тому

      [sarcasm detected]

    • @duck636
      @duck636 4 роки тому

      @@maxwellriff You sound like a bug sympathizer!

  • @PeterSchmuttermaier
    @PeterSchmuttermaier 4 роки тому +8630

    US Military, every couple of years: "We really need to modernize our arsenal. Let's tell everybody our high standards and see what they come up with."
    World's top weapons manufacturers: "We invested gazillions into the development of this new weapon system which meets all your demands and even superceeds some of them. What do you say?"
    US Military: "Yeah, you know, we decided to just stick with what we have, thanks."

    • @bruensal7182
      @bruensal7182 4 роки тому +1194

      US Ordnance- Replacing the M4/M16 since 1980

    • @bruensal7182
      @bruensal7182 4 роки тому +290

      @Charlie B the scar l would today actually be the marine standard rifle if it wasnt that enormously expensive

    • @bruensal7182
      @bruensal7182 4 роки тому +242

      @Charlie B still, the scar had better tests results than the m4 m16. İf it wasnt for the price marines were axtually using it

    • @Gonken88
      @Gonken88 4 роки тому +4

      Bwaha 👍

    • @Klaaism
      @Klaaism 4 роки тому +61

      "Can you make it look more Starship Troopers?" OMG... XD

  • @spearspearspear
    @spearspearspear 5 років тому +884

    I’m really loving these videos in “the grey room.”

    • @anD-vf7ld
      @anD-vf7ld 5 років тому +3

      Are they using the same hook/clip-system Ian built a wall with some time ago - anyone know? Defly reminds me of it...

    • @ngilbert100
      @ngilbert100 5 років тому +9

      Yeah keep this grey room stuff coming.

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 5 років тому +42

      I always assumed you needed to be a H&K employee to get into the Grey Room. I guess being Gun Jesus works too.

    • @vector6977
      @vector6977 5 років тому +14

      I just want to smell the room.

    • @M0torsagmannen
      @M0torsagmannen 5 років тому

      @@anD-vf7ld hard to tell with the grey felt covering, but the one Ian have was fairly new when he installed it, so unless the grey room got built recently i doubt it.

  • @chimp_gaming.
    @chimp_gaming. 4 роки тому +247

    "almost adopted" is also coincidentally my nickname.

  • @Grabbagar670
    @Grabbagar670 5 років тому +1360

    The Room of Kraut Space Magic.

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage 5 років тому +70

      Es funktioniert einfach.

    • @shiveringlights377
      @shiveringlights377 5 років тому +10

      @@Calvin_Coolage ausser in Fallout 76 lul

    • @trashaimgamer7822
      @trashaimgamer7822 5 років тому +7

      That's racist. Please refer to me as Bacon.

    • @jillvalentinefan77
      @jillvalentinefan77 5 років тому +8

      I need a magic room full of quality guns.

    • @zacht9447
      @zacht9447 5 років тому +1

      I mean They aren't really magic it's basically just taking an american design and making it all polymer

  • @cargo_vroom9729
    @cargo_vroom9729 5 років тому +533

    "We want it to look more Starship Troopers"
    *nervous laughter*

  • @Jireblade
    @Jireblade 3 роки тому +52

    Fell in love with this rifle when I originally read about it. So depressing not being able to acquire one.

  • @mathiasbartl9393
    @mathiasbartl9393 5 років тому +424

    "I sell space guns and space gun accessories."

    • @ronazdug
      @ronazdug 4 роки тому +2

      Otishtic Nooobra. No you’re cringe

    • @thebayoudiaries8389
      @thebayoudiaries8389 4 роки тому +4

      Otishtic Nooobra. You must be fun at parties.

  • @Atombender
    @Atombender 4 роки тому +1515

    HK: "No one was asking for this but the knife sheath also has a built-in sharpening stone and a wire cutter."

    • @kabalanstef9636
      @kabalanstef9636 4 роки тому +76

      The ak Russian baionet could be transformed into a Wirecutter using the sheath and the blade itself. Ever wondered why the bayonets had a hole in the blade? That is why

    • @levoGAMES
      @levoGAMES 4 роки тому +96

      Doesn't the Galil come with a bottle opener?

    • @TurMoiL911
      @TurMoiL911 4 роки тому +139

      @@levoGAMES Yeah, because soldiers were using the magazines to open bottles instead. They were damaging the lip and it caused feed issues.

    • @templarhelmet3844
      @templarhelmet3844 4 роки тому +16

      I thought you were joking until I came across the part

    • @mataj0to561
      @mataj0to561 4 роки тому +6

      Kabalan Stef yeah i bought one on amazon and it’s sick af

  • @vanillabeans32087
    @vanillabeans32087 3 роки тому +50

    I'm not a gun enthusiast myself, but I keep coming back because I really appreciate Ian's mechanical breakdowns, and the interesting history behind a lot of these firearms. Nice work Ian!

    • @Gato303co
      @Gato303co 11 місяців тому

      Same

    • @GatCat
      @GatCat 8 місяців тому

      So are you a firearm enthusiast now? I sure hope so

  • @Kardia_of_Rhodes
    @Kardia_of_Rhodes 4 роки тому +2493

    At first glance, I said to myself, "This thing looks like a toy no wonder they didn't adopt it.".
    But after giving it some thought, I realized that by making it look and function like a toy you essentially make it "idiot proof".
    And then I remembered that this is a European Gun Manufacturer trying to pitch a product to the US Military.
    It all made sense from that point on.

    • @chrinii
      @chrinii 4 роки тому +64

      @@onetrucksizedsalmon2962 We already have the FN F2000 for that. Not sure about the ammo counter though.

    • @SirDankington
      @SirDankington 4 роки тому +206

      Funnily enough, the gun looking and feeling like a toy was one of the complaints that the M-16 received when it was introduced into service

    • @joshuachristensen9731
      @joshuachristensen9731 4 роки тому +38

      @@chrinii you can actually get aftermarket ammo counters for both real guns and their airsoft versions, that mount to picatinny rails. its pretty cool, and somewhat useful depending on situation

    • @FitFatFern
      @FitFatFern 4 роки тому +28

      I just love how easily interchangeable everything is. I can go from a red dot to an RCO in mere seconds.

    • @WalrusWinking
      @WalrusWinking 3 роки тому +8

      @@chrinii The FN 2000 is the big gay

  • @failedrevolutionary9497
    @failedrevolutionary9497 5 років тому +1893

    Funny that Military Higher-ups wanted their next generation rifle to take inspiration from a movie that satirizes and criticizes war.
    Also Bad Company 2 is just the best.

    • @failedrevolutionary9497
      @failedrevolutionary9497 5 років тому +37

      @Switch Kick How so? I'm not arguing for either side of this debate, I'm just saying that it's kind of funny. I have absolutely nothing against the weapon itself.

    • @Zorro9129
      @Zorro9129 4 роки тому +38

      The book though really was the best.

    • @wraithwyvern528
      @wraithwyvern528 4 роки тому +50

      Unfortunately, the movie kind of skimmed out on Heinlein's criticisms of authoritarian societies compared to the original book.

    • @tripple-a6031
      @tripple-a6031 4 роки тому +21

      XM-8 and Bad Company 2 go hand in hand in my eyes :D

    • @4skintim962
      @4skintim962 4 роки тому +6

      Wow this is the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen....
      Bf3 and bf1 were better ;)

  • @OTElron
    @OTElron 5 років тому +156

    The day you feel really old: When Gun Jesus presents the XM-8 as a forgotten weapon system.

  • @OrtadragoonX
    @OrtadragoonX 6 місяців тому +3

    According to every video game of the mid 2000s this was going to be the future of the US Army. Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter had me convinced that when I turned 18 in 2008 I was going to be drafted to fight a war in Mexico while carrying the M8 as my rifle.

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 5 років тому +159

    Getting closer to that sweet, sweet G11 video...

    • @AntonAdelson
      @AntonAdelson 5 років тому +2

      Yesssplease!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @matthayward7889
      @matthayward7889 5 років тому +1

      Anton Adelson I’ve been saving a beer to crack open when he does!

    • @NameNotAlreadyTaken2
      @NameNotAlreadyTaken2 5 років тому +2

      It has to happen eventually. Hopefully he only does it once he can look at a real one.

    • @Yukikazehalo
      @Yukikazehalo 5 років тому +2

      @@NameNotAlreadyTaken2 there are at least 4 G11s hanging on the wall of the room he filmed this in, it shouldn't be a problem making a video of one of those...

  • @Jievf
    @Jievf 5 років тому +1307

    My favourite assault rifle in bad company

    • @kenansabic2901
      @kenansabic2901 5 років тому +31

      I preffer M416 myself but this one is pure cool.

    • @MrPixelMonster
      @MrPixelMonster 5 років тому +85

      Only reason I clicked on this vid is cuz I recognized it from BFBC2 😂

    • @Flako92
      @Flako92 5 років тому +17

      This is my go to weapon on BFBC2 when I go on my nostalgia trip, of when I first got my hands on the game.

    • @Psychoangel-d23
      @Psychoangel-d23 5 років тому +14

      No surprise honestly. it was the most well rounded AR in game xD

    • @JarJarBinkz68
      @JarJarBinkz68 5 років тому +14

      i remember finding it in the bad company 1 campaign :)

  • @bad74maverick1
    @bad74maverick1 2 роки тому +17

    Don't worry, they will be adopted eventually in the future. The long barreled version with the scope is seen at the end of Starship Troopers.

  • @Chebva
    @Chebva 5 років тому +804

    H&K never fails. 100% pure badass. Basically a 20 year old gun that was ahead of its time and is still ahead of current times.

    • @THEZWARRIORWAR
      @THEZWARRIORWAR 5 років тому +29

      Chebva Romero so ahead that it was a large failure in every sense of the word

    • @TheAngrySaxon1
      @TheAngrySaxon1 5 років тому +166

      @@THEZWARRIORWAR Because the U.S won't move away from the M16 family, it's just too much of an undertaking given the number of troops involved. They're kidding themselves and manufacturers with these replacement programs, they don't intend to replace, not until they're forced to as per the M14.

    • @neuromancer692
      @neuromancer692 5 років тому +3

      Med Otaku Do you have a single fact to back that up?

    • @Reduxalicious
      @Reduxalicious 5 років тому +8

      @@neuromancer692
      www.wearethemighty.com/gear-tech/this-is-what-became-of-the-armys-futuristic-m-16-replacement-rifle

    • @neuromancer692
      @neuromancer692 5 років тому +6

      Magni56 Thank you for the detailed answer. My only problem is that I don’t really remember who I directed my original response to.

  • @TREX_04
    @TREX_04 3 роки тому +17

    Even though I loved the xm8 I didnt know this much about it. Like for example the simplicity of swapping parts or attachments out or even the two ways of removing the magazine! You made me appreciate it even more
    P.s. as a scout I require that bayonet this instant

  • @nagasako7
    @nagasako7 5 років тому +193

    Hey I know this gun.
    I caught this gun off the pier last year.

    • @tenhundredkills
      @tenhundredkills 5 років тому +25

      I thought I caught one too, but it was just a FS2000 :(

    • @blackops555
      @blackops555 5 років тому +11

      Must have been a very tragic boating accident previously...

    • @STRAKAZulu
      @STRAKAZulu 5 років тому +30

      The early 2000's: the era of the Tactical Tuna.

  • @phanta_rei2910
    @phanta_rei2910 5 років тому +615

    That G11 on the top left. Please make a video on it! 🙏

    • @Arthurzeiro
      @Arthurzeiro 5 років тому +236

      It's going to be released this Christmas, it's gun Jesus birthday but It will be us getting the gift.

    • @Stywel
      @Stywel 5 років тому +43

      I'm pretty sure he's purposefully teasing us :D

    • @MachineGunManUFMS
      @MachineGunManUFMS 5 років тому +9

      It's coming! My inner Syphon Filter 2 playing kid will love it so much!!

    • @wewd
      @wewd 5 років тому +4

      He's gonna do it. 😎

    • @SgtKOnyx
      @SgtKOnyx 5 років тому +14

      He said he would, patience.

  • @harrisonbergeron1819
    @harrisonbergeron1819 4 роки тому +176

    I feel like that optic needed a few more 'Danger' stickers!

    • @_yellow
      @_yellow 3 роки тому +15

      That's how you know it's American

    • @tite93
      @tite93 2 роки тому +14

      Can never trust an American soldier not to point that pesky laser right in their face

  • @unholyloaf
    @unholyloaf 5 років тому +1358

    "We want it to look a little more Starship Troopers"
    [laughs in citizenship]

    • @AngelSamael
      @AngelSamael 4 роки тому +53

      Funny thing is US military service does NOT guarantee citizenship.

    • @FacelessDeviant
      @FacelessDeviant 4 роки тому +38

      [Desire to know more intensifies]

    • @walmorcarvalho2512
      @walmorcarvalho2512 4 роки тому +19

      it's to match the overall tone of proto-fascism

    • @Autobotmatt428
      @Autobotmatt428 4 роки тому +4

      @@AngelSamael It should.

    • @xgensean
      @xgensean 4 роки тому +1

      Perfect comment!

  • @thetalonking7233
    @thetalonking7233 5 років тому +380

    I swear, I'd give anything to have an actual, functional XM8 made by H&K. It's such a shame they were a complete flop, as I personally love the look and function of it. Even the attachments, they look so simple yet snug and efficient.

    • @Still-ill-Trill
      @Still-ill-Trill 5 років тому +13

      look at tommybuilttactical. He makes Xm8 clones you can buy

    • @thetalonking7233
      @thetalonking7233 5 років тому +5

      I thought you had to provide him a SL8 first, for can you buy them from scratch? If so... Hell yes...

    • @Still-ill-Trill
      @Still-ill-Trill 5 років тому +8

      @@thetalonking7233 last I saw he was making receivers for them. I dont live in the US so Im not 100% sure

    • @dionjaywoollaston1349
      @dionjaywoollaston1349 4 роки тому +4

      TheTalonKing they have had plenty of exposure and use in video games, I remember one game they were used as a sniper rifle

    • @dionjaywoollaston1349
      @dionjaywoollaston1349 3 роки тому +1

      @Tu Shan it was called black site

  • @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903
    @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 4 роки тому +159

    Ian missed on a killing to say “would you like to know more”

  • @The450Raven
    @The450Raven 3 роки тому +2

    Whoever is responsible for denying this absolute masterpiece should've been removed.

  • @brianhess1456
    @brianhess1456 5 років тому +554

    Service guarantees citizenship!

    • @norrusinman682
      @norrusinman682 5 років тому +105

      *desire to know more intensifies*

    • @Marshal_Rock
      @Marshal_Rock 5 років тому +9

      Brian Hess want to know more?

    • @kyle857
      @kyle857 5 років тому +15

      @@CountArtha Shoots ISIS member. "I'm doing my part!"

    • @Juggalo10p
      @Juggalo10p 5 років тому +9

      RICOS ROUGHNECKS

    • @fan9775
      @fan9775 5 років тому +6

      This looks nothing like the morita

  • @montana12810
    @montana12810 5 років тому +626

    SINCE THEY ARE UNWANTED & UNLOVED BY THE MILITARY--I'LL TAKE ALL THREE?

  • @PKFireFawx
    @PKFireFawx Рік тому +8

    i've thought this was singlehandedly one of the coolest looking rifles ever since i saw it in MGS4. idk how anyone can say it looks ugly, it really looks so slick to me

  • @alejoromero
    @alejoromero 5 років тому +275

    In the future, H&K will develop the pulse rifle for the Colonial Marines, so don't worry about the flops.

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 5 років тому +5

      Alejandro Romero if those pulse rifle can't kill even single alien, go for shotgun

    • @joshm3484
      @joshm3484 5 років тому +3

      In the present, they're making the M27 for the US Marines, and it's having issues.

    • @DMAGAEscober
      @DMAGAEscober 4 роки тому +6

      Is rather have the Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40 watt range

    • @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903
      @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 4 роки тому +4

      HK later formed Misriah armory on mars to make the MA5 and BR55 bull pup rifles for the UNSC

    • @manuelcjr52
      @manuelcjr52 4 роки тому +2

      @@justnoob8141 except they did kill xenos , a lot canonically

  • @shallows529
    @shallows529 5 років тому +1194

    Bad Company 1/2 anybody?

    • @BazsiHHH
      @BazsiHHH 5 років тому +65

      yup I have been hoping for these to come up in a new game ever since. They're just way too beautiful.

    • @KilLeREagLe21
      @KilLeREagLe21 5 років тому +27

      Was looking for this comment

    • @Skullnaught
      @Skullnaught 5 років тому +51

      Metal Gear Soild 4

    • @kirbysbestfan
      @kirbysbestfan 5 років тому +4

      I too have been wishing for them to show up again in a game.

    • @jonmeray713
      @jonmeray713 5 років тому +43

      Still waiting for bad company 3

  • @GingerZero
    @GingerZero 3 роки тому +4

    That accessory attachment system is the best. Really liked the cool looks of the rifle before, but now I love the practical aspects of it as well.

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG 5 років тому +150

    LOL... how can you look "more Starship Troopers" than that OICW?

    • @ironraccoon3536
      @ironraccoon3536 5 років тому +5

      Desert camo.

    • @NefariousKoel
      @NefariousKoel 5 років тому +4

      "Also.. give us powered armor and dropships to go with"

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 роки тому

      @@NefariousKoel nah they'll be drop in capsules. Capsules are small and when they open, they break apart to create chaff to confuse sensors like radar. Anyone in a powered armor is basically a one man army.

  • @Iknowvfx
    @Iknowvfx 5 років тому +68

    XM-8 was an amazing platform, sad it never got adopted.

    • @raidy5215
      @raidy5215 5 років тому +9

      It IS adopted. By the TLDM (Royal Malaysian Navy)

    • @THEZWARRIORWAR
      @THEZWARRIORWAR 5 років тому +11

      It really wasn't, it failed tons of military testings and the attachment points are extremely stupid

    • @m1a1abramstank49
      @m1a1abramstank49 4 роки тому +5

      SemperFiMac77 Yes we shall invest more money on something that doesn’t really improve on much with performance, one of the reasons why the US never had a replacement rifle in a while

    • @shredmunds7660
      @shredmunds7660 4 роки тому +1

      @@poolee77 Really? I thought this was the peice of junk that kept melting.

    • @erics7219
      @erics7219 4 роки тому +11

      @@poolee77 xm8 is an exceptional gun. most ppl underestimate this gun by its look, but in combat, i will take this xm8 over m4 or m16 any day

  • @BrainSeepsOut
    @BrainSeepsOut 5 років тому +269

    Can we officially declare the XM8 the "Betamax of Firearms"?

  • @Cruor34
    @Cruor34 4 роки тому +6

    The modular system part is really awesome. You can see they really tried hard, the people involved in the project must have been pissed when they didn't get a contract.

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 5 років тому +62

    Thanks H&K for giving Ian access and allowing him to film and share with us! Very cool :)

  • @andrewpiegzik4121
    @andrewpiegzik4121 5 років тому +116

    If they wanted to make it look more 'Starship Troopers' all they had to do was buy Ruger Mini-14s.

  • @SheolAbaddonus666
    @SheolAbaddonus666 Рік тому +2

    This thing is fucking genius, I can't think of a reason why we wouldn't have adopted it. It looks so easy to use that not even grunts with a 25 ASVAB score could fuck it up.

  • @maldavion1003
    @maldavion1003 5 років тому +30

    As German ex military I can tell you the problem around the g36 as it was around my serving time when developed vor us.
    One of the at that time requirements of the Bundeswehr was that it has to be fully functional for northern and mid Europe basically ftom Spain to Denmark to say like that. The g36 was never designed to be fully functional in desert climatic conditions. And to add to that the very wise and all mighty burocrats decided that instead of using the recommended ammo that they should use the cheaper ones. Result at intense shootings with a lot of full auto use the barrel tended to heat up too much which caused a lack of accuracy. That's the whole story about it. Our useless minister of defense just seeked a way to get a new gun cheaper by blaming h&k did a bad job. Fun fact the new AR for Bundeswehr is, surprise surprise, a h&k.

  • @wewd
    @wewd 5 років тому +39

    6:28 - BOOP!

    • @wompa3571
      @wompa3571 5 років тому +2

      I'm glad I'm not the only one that caught that.

    • @pdubowner
      @pdubowner 5 років тому +1

      8:43 too

    • @pdubowner
      @pdubowner 5 років тому +1

      BOOP

    • @theprojectproject01
      @theprojectproject01 5 років тому +1

      I think even Gun Jesus's kittens boop noses with obscure European sidearms

  • @thelucidjoe
    @thelucidjoe 4 роки тому +29

    6:26 "Boop"
    Gun Jesus has spoketh

  • @Damnedlegion40k
    @Damnedlegion40k 5 років тому +98

    Love the XM-8 in battlefield bad company 2, great rifle.

    • @YugoM92
      @YugoM92 2 роки тому +5

      I was dropping North Koreans with this Rifle in Ghost Recon 2

    • @punished_gooner
      @punished_gooner Рік тому

      ​@@YugoM92 yes bro yes

  • @BizonthePhoenix86
    @BizonthePhoenix86 4 роки тому +20

    If you didn’t know, this is what the m8a1 is modelled after in bo2

    • @rellymillz6556
      @rellymillz6556 Рік тому +1

      I thought i was the only that was saying finally someone w culture 😂💪🏽

  • @RidinChevySolo
    @RidinChevySolo 5 років тому +68

    H&K was, and still is ahead of its time. I'd love to own one of these.

  • @DaysofKnight
    @DaysofKnight 9 місяців тому +1

    Love the XM-8, specifically the Carbine model. Just a great looking rifle

  • @AntonEugeneLanthier
    @AntonEugeneLanthier 5 років тому +178

    These weird 80s and 90s guns really take the sci-fi aesthetic too seriously.

    • @UnDeaDCyBorg
      @UnDeaDCyBorg 5 років тому +14

      Well, one of the early criticisms was supposedly its looks. Can't blame them for embracing that.

    • @anD-vf7ld
      @anD-vf7ld 5 років тому +2

      Then swap the front-guard for a more classic looking one ;)

    • @TheRomanRuler
      @TheRomanRuler 5 років тому +18

      Considering they were literally asked to make it look more like sci fi gun, i cant blame them too much. But it would have been better if they would have just ignored that and gone for pure functionality with aim to produce best ar in the world.
      I wonder if they could have some kind of cover on it that would be enough to fool people who wanted it to look more futuristic, without actually impacting perfomance of it.

    • @bami2
      @bami2 5 років тому +27

      Except this is a 00s gun.

    • @jonmeray713
      @jonmeray713 5 років тому +10

      Yea this is 2000 not the 80s or 90s

  • @TheDodge211
    @TheDodge211 5 років тому +331

    should be the official issued rifle for the space force :D

    • @xWatchmen4YahushaHaMashiachx
      @xWatchmen4YahushaHaMashiachx 5 років тому +6

      Firmament says no go.

    • @adeptusyagoncius2938
      @adeptusyagoncius2938 5 років тому +18

      That role may be acomplished by a bolter

    • @Robert53area
      @Robert53area 5 років тому +1

      How can use a firearm in space if there is no air in space to make an explosion... you might as well bring a spear gun to space

    • @creeperproductionsgma4130
      @creeperproductionsgma4130 5 років тому +2

      IT'S A JOKE

    • @kumat0ra672
      @kumat0ra672 5 років тому +6

      @Bob They do, actually. If a gun can fire underwater, it can fire in space.

  • @justinspiguzza5276
    @justinspiguzza5276 Рік тому +1

    You would make a great elementary teacher. Soft spoken and very detailed.

  • @nateweldgood
    @nateweldgood 5 років тому +21

    Holy shit dude, you weren’t joking about December videos being cool. Ian, thanks for being awesome, keep it up.

  • @cameronwilkson2982
    @cameronwilkson2982 5 років тому +68

    Tactical tuna v2

  • @ralfis1234
    @ralfis1234 5 років тому +126

    So bacisly XM-8 is G36 but more curvy?

    • @KrakenUnleashed
      @KrakenUnleashed 5 років тому +9

      would think more that g36 is the piccatinny XM8, still has it's m320 GL, has its proper magazine, proper scope ( for G36K), but yeah, not so curvy standard squared look

    • @センナ-h4c
      @センナ-h4c 5 років тому +6

      But XM-8 looks slick, it's like a shark or something to me
      Looks way much better than that brick looking

    • @grahampeters91
      @grahampeters91 4 роки тому

      Its gives me a semi

    • @Tyler-ut6st
      @Tyler-ut6st 4 роки тому

      I dig the profile pic, shoutout to S.T.A.L.K.E.R

    • @spacewater7
      @spacewater7 4 роки тому

      Only more Starship Troopers-y, or should I say more Spaceballs-y. 'Comb the desert!!!'

  • @TYSniper
    @TYSniper 5 місяців тому +1

    And to think now the military has changed over to an XM7 platform. I wish the XM-8 family of weapons was adopted. They just look so good.

  • @snake45aiman
    @snake45aiman 5 років тому +91

    Fun fact: only malaysian PASKAL (malaysia seal unit) unit use XM8

    • @raidy5215
      @raidy5215 5 років тому +7

      Actually, it is adopted by TLDM (Royal Malaysian Navy) and it was adopted by SEAL Team long time ago for training purpose. After US adopted ACR and SCAR, they abandoned the project.

    • @THEZWARRIORWAR
      @THEZWARRIORWAR 5 років тому +1

      RaidyTJC the ACR and the SCAR were never adopted... The military has a few SCARs but it was more of s sort of trial than anything

    • @eddgrs9193
      @eddgrs9193 4 роки тому +6

      Looks like the Malaysians are big Starship Troopers fans :)

    • @WalrusWinking
      @WalrusWinking 3 роки тому

      And US citizens

  • @rainunderscore
    @rainunderscore Місяць тому

    imagine where this platform would be at now if it had been picked up. id love seeing all the cool new modular add-ons.

  • @ultrablue2
    @ultrablue2 5 років тому +132

    An excellent video and a fascinating concept for a service rifle. All this talk of how the rifle “looks”; that’s completely irrelevant- it’s the ergonomics, the durability, and the function that counts, and HK obviously views the service rifle as a modular, expandable device to be changed and adapted to its purpose. In that, it’s beautiful alone. Beyond BS politics and bureaucracy, I’d like to know more about what physical issues (the Vickers commentary talked about handguard heat and captive pushpins) theses guns had, and if HK could have remedied them.

    • @KothraStreamdiver
      @KothraStreamdiver 5 років тому +12

      If you look into the G36 issue he mentioned I think that'll answer some questions. Basically something about heat warping the plastic where the metal trunion is molded in and offsetting the barrel and so affecting accuracy of the rifle. From what I've personally seen in discussion it seems this has mostly been used by some German politicians as an excuse to replace the rifle in Bundeswehr service, but whether or not it has really been a huge issue in practice isn't really clear. Though whether or not it really is that big of an issue, the push for a new rifle is getting H&K and others to showcase new weapons like the HK433 and the Rheinmetall-Steyr RS556.

    • @foleymaj
      @foleymaj 5 років тому +13

      @Kothra while G36 in German service does have these known issues, H&K has fixed them and the G36 is very popular with Special Forces all around the globe. It was basically the Bundeswehr requirements for a less heavy rifle, they fucked up but they have fixed it. G36 as a platform is just fine.

    • @KothraStreamdiver
      @KothraStreamdiver 5 років тому +2

      @@foleymaj Yeah the worldwide popularity of the rifle is a large part of why I'm skeptical of the whole replacement situation.

    • @Seelenschmiede
      @Seelenschmiede 5 років тому

      @@foleymaj the newer generation of G36 may be good, but the first generation was really bad. We destroyed so much of them on the maneuver grounds...

    • @Havok0159
      @Havok0159 5 років тому +9

      It's really unlikely any issues wouldn't have been fixable. If there's one thing we know from Ian's videos is that all weapons start off with issues that end up getting solved through the adoption process or through use, like how the MP38 had that issue where it could fire if the bolt got hooked up on something and it was changed for the MP40. Or the early manufacturing difficulties with the original AK47 that got fixed by accepting a higher weight milled receiver until they could make them out of stampings properly. The M16 had issues of it's own that got fixed during it's adoption.

  • @meansartin
    @meansartin 5 років тому +28

    While Ian was messing with the folding stock all I could think was:
    "Manages to handle 400 year old items with great care........breaks folding HK stock"

  • @beast0339
    @beast0339 3 роки тому +2

    really wish they'd make these still for larger military contracts, because that PCAPS system is really interesting. Plus modularity really is a useful thing to have on a standard rifle

  • @josiephineslemmermann9611
    @josiephineslemmermann9611 5 років тому +39

    QUIT TEASING US WITH THAR G11 IN THE CORNER IAN

  • @TroopperFoFo
    @TroopperFoFo 5 років тому +75

    Also the Xm8 is used by the Royal Malaysian Navy.

    • @issackliener3065
      @issackliener3065 5 років тому +3

      We do?

    • @mimimimeow
      @mimimimeow 5 років тому +4

      PASKAL still uses them. A lot of XM-8 were brought in Malaysia to be field tested by all Malaysian military branch, even the PDRM (federal police).

    • @PunaJussi
      @PunaJussi 5 років тому +7

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PASKAL#/media/File:Navy_PASKAL_frogman_strike_team_personnels_at_standby_during_57th_NDP.JPG

    • @passonthestar3689
      @passonthestar3689 5 років тому

      @@issackliener3065 I believe about 10,000 were purchased by them

    • @theprojectproject01
      @theprojectproject01 5 років тому +18

      And I'm sure all 17 members of said service are glad to have them.

  • @DivingHawker
    @DivingHawker 5 років тому +50

    "That weapon should look more starship trooper" Ah, Murica...

  • @JJadx
    @JJadx 3 роки тому +11

    did you ever accidentally break a gun that you where supposed to showcase? i'd be so scared handling these unique prototypes.

  • @phairecouchpotato3912
    @phairecouchpotato3912 5 років тому +43

    Maybe I was too harsh on the XM8, I always hated that fish-looking rifle when I first saw it but, it really did have potential... 🤔🤯

  • @xenuvelo64
    @xenuvelo64 4 роки тому +51

    “Shut up, clock in, and load up”

  • @themadthrasher5000
    @themadthrasher5000 4 роки тому +49

    Genius weapon system. Even with it's shortcomings, I'd have loved these when I was in the Marines.

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 роки тому

      Heard the USMC ordering more M27s. Are they going to replace the M16 as standard service rifle?

  • @kylewhite8434
    @kylewhite8434 Рік тому +1

    The P cap system is essentially old style Keymod when you think about it.

  • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
    @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 5 років тому +8

    Departmento Munitorum approved, but Army Materiel Command denied.
    Never underestimate the ability of H&K to be at the center of any armaments trials drama.

  • @OutcastAngelV
    @OutcastAngelV 5 років тому +86

    I wanted this gun to be implemented so badly.
    Anyone remember GRAW? >_>
    Childhood dream weapon
    PS: this was my choice of airsoft gun for many years. Those mags were so cool, and I could use it in my G36C and K :D

    • @PACKERMAN2077
      @PACKERMAN2077 5 років тому

      Yes sir it was strange when I saw those... I rented it from a Blockbuster

    • @dave_riots
      @dave_riots 5 років тому +1

      I remember Blockbuster like it was yesterday. :(

    • @PACKERMAN2077
      @PACKERMAN2077 5 років тому

      @@dave_riots whatever happened to the Blockbuster locations near you?...
      The closest one towards me is now a wig/makeup store...
      The next one became a dialysis center...
      The one after that was a Hollywood Video actually and became a pizza joint/ Urgent Care Center
      And then a movie gallery next to that became a dentist's office.

    • @dave_riots
      @dave_riots 5 років тому +1

      @@PACKERMAN2077 All of the ones closest to me were torn down with either a gas station, or a Chick Fil A replacing it.

    • @PACKERMAN2077
      @PACKERMAN2077 5 років тому

      @@dave_riots 🤔😖😣☺️

  • @therandomscout6590
    @therandomscout6590 5 місяців тому +2

    My country, Malaysia, is the only country that uses this gun. It's issued to the PASKAL units, which are basically seals.

  • @TJ11692
    @TJ11692 5 років тому +46

    Join the Mobile Infantry today, service guarantees citizenship

    • @Marshal_Rock
      @Marshal_Rock 5 років тому +6

      TJ Hall would you like to know more?

    • @jackwyatt1218
      @jackwyatt1218 5 років тому +1

      That word means more than you know.

    • @grahamlopez6202
      @grahamlopez6202 5 років тому

      Mmmhm. You'll just make me do lawn care at battalion for years at a time until you promise me a bonus for reenlisting and then take it away.

  • @papapalpatine8785
    @papapalpatine8785 5 років тому +4

    H&k fan loving this series. Thanks for sharing all these amazing firearms.

  • @jkmangrumtime
    @jkmangrumtime 5 років тому +29

    "and now I've got a grenade launcher attached to front of my rifle....... you're good to go."

  • @captainslut.1650
    @captainslut.1650 4 роки тому +1

    This is the most tacticool rifle I have ever seen. I absolutely love it.

  • @doorguner01
    @doorguner01 5 років тому +50

    Pretty close to a G36 if you ask me!

    • @808INFantry11X
      @808INFantry11X 5 років тому +2

      It is cosmetically but there are some noticable fundamental improvements over the G36 like the barrel is easier to change out and it uses the Gas piston mechanism.

    • @MEGATRYANT
      @MEGATRYANT 5 років тому +2

      If the M249 warps when you fire hundreds of rounds in rapid succession, I don't see why the XM8 wouldn't

    • @MEGATRYANT
      @MEGATRYANT 5 років тому +9

      I know it's weak bait, but someone will probably take it seriously so I'll bite. Cuz the only mention of the G36 accuracy issues mention it happening after "firing hundred of rounds". So far that Lithuanian testing even confirmed that the G36 only deviates from specifications if used in a fire support role. i.e: As an LMG..

    • @808INFantry11X
      @808INFantry11X 5 років тому +1

      @Boomers gonna Boom it does which they found out through testing. Any weapon would really but its tolerance wasn't much better then what they had with the M4 making kinda pointless to replace everything for weapons system that wasn't that much superior to the M4

    • @senfdiesel
      @senfdiesel 5 років тому

      @Boomers gonna Boom funny that this article uses one of the worst newspapers in germany as source, if not the. also almost every soldier actually said they really like the G36.

  • @obliviondust2719
    @obliviondust2719 3 роки тому +11

    Can't wait for the NGSW weapons breakdown to be featured on here when the army inevitably cancel them :D

  • @five5105
    @five5105 5 років тому +10

    They look like a school of lead flinging fish while they're all sitting on the table together.

  • @boomanh63
    @boomanh63 5 років тому +4

    I got to a lot of testing with this system when it first came to the US. It was a very clean running weapon. Didn't handle heat well. The only this Ian got wrong was who developed the sighting systems. It was Insight Technology prior, by many years, to L3 buying out the owner and basically ruining a great smallish company with their corporate BS.

  • @Moishel_Mitnyk
    @Moishel_Mitnyk 5 років тому +25

    Ian for DOD
    #2019CHANGE

    • @HJDore
      @HJDore 5 років тому +1

      Moose is Mattis not good enough for you?

  • @jamesmcbeth4463
    @jamesmcbeth4463 3 роки тому +14

    If only large numbers of people knew the reality of the xm8 instead of it's carefully cultivated advertisement. The polymer lower receiver cracked and came apart during testing.

  • @Niafi11
    @Niafi11 4 роки тому +12

    2 Pins to Pull them All...And in the Darkness Adopts them.

  • @ESCfromNome
    @ESCfromNome 4 роки тому +7

    HEY! I remember this rifle being featured pretty massively in Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter!

  • @dreamingflurry2729
    @dreamingflurry2729 5 років тому +105

    Issues with the G36? Nah, the dumb military (I am an actual German, so I am allowed to insult that armed camping club!) tried to press an assault rifle, the G36, into the light-machinegun role and then woundered why accuracy suffered with barrels etc. not made for sustained fire of hundreds of rounds just dumped through it -.- (seriously, anybody should know that this doesn't work! I don't even own any weapons and I know this is a straight out stupid idea!)...I mean they should know that LMGs have heavier barrels exactly for that reason -.-

    • @herosstratos
      @herosstratos 5 років тому

      The bipod is very handy, therefore there are units which have all their G36s equipped with bipods.

    • @ringowunderlich2241
      @ringowunderlich2241 5 років тому +8

      H&K is a shady company with lots of lawsuits put against it and more trials to come probably. Mostly for illegal arms deals. So I do not exclude the idea of them having tried to cut some corners by using low quality steel for the barrels.

    • @C0SSAC
      @C0SSAC 5 років тому +6

      Das stimmt so nicht ganz ... die Bw hat das G36 nie als leichtes Maschinengewehr benutz, zumal das MG4 schon im Einsatz war als es zu den Vorwürfen kam... Im Prinzip ist etwas ähnliches wie beim M16/A1 und der Einführung des A2 passiert.

    • @Piotwor
      @Piotwor 5 років тому +9

      @@ringowunderlich2241 Even if the problems of the G36 are true (which is debatable) they have nothing to do with the steel used in the guns, but the polymers.

    • @C0SSAC
      @C0SSAC 5 років тому +14

      The official investigation came to the conclusion that the rifles are completely built to the specs the Bundeswehr had for them. They blamed faulty ammunition for the problems. The G36 was never pushed in a squad automatic weapon role, since when the problems happened the MG4 was already fulfilling this role.

  • @pablowentscobar
    @pablowentscobar 3 роки тому +18

    You're a gun designer, the top brass comes to you and says "This is good. Can you make it more Star Ship Trooperish?" What do you say?

    • @muhazreen
      @muhazreen 3 роки тому

      I will equip whole murican-gun-boner with my production line gun
      overthrow the govermant then replace those top brass with Hollywood director

    • @themocaw
      @themocaw 2 роки тому

      "Get me Jimmy the weeb. Hey Jimmy, make this look like one of the guns from your animes."

  • @andersonklein3587
    @andersonklein3587 5 років тому +7

    This gun looks all around better than the M16, it astonishes me they haven't replaced it yet given the many wonderful options possible nowadays.

    • @TheBikeOnTheMoon
      @TheBikeOnTheMoon 5 років тому +1

      because It probably comes down to the price per unit and more importantly....politic

    • @douglasspayne3476
      @douglasspayne3476 5 років тому +1

      it has more to do with reliability, there are some weapons that work well enough that the design has not changed much since the 1920's. also changing a weapon system from experimental to primary use is a massive undertaking that costs money and time so they want to make sure that it does the job 100% of the time every time. which costs even more money and time. then there is the politics....

    • @Sovi774
      @Sovi774 5 років тому

      Marines are starting to issue m27s to infantry. I see the m16 being phased out within the next decade

  • @karas3248
    @karas3248 5 років тому +5

    Its a shame it didnt get use, its such a cool rifle

  • @adityarai5367
    @adityarai5367 3 роки тому +2

    It looks really good. 👍

  • @bongobrandy6297
    @bongobrandy6297 5 років тому +16

    YES! Starship Trooper!

    • @bastiaan0741
      @bastiaan0741 5 років тому

      I knew I wasn't the only one. I genuinely believed he was holding a prop for comparison's sake.

  • @danieltubio-rey1984
    @danieltubio-rey1984 5 років тому +15

    Me: What else can I fit into my sheath
    H&K: Hold my bear
    😂😂😂

  • @sgtboom7
    @sgtboom7 2 роки тому +1

    I will always be sad the XM8 wasn’t adopted by the US military. I don’t know much about firearms but I do know the XM8 looks cool as hell and that’s all the reason i need.

  • @Grabbagar670
    @Grabbagar670 5 років тому +8

    *1990’s*
    “In 2018 I bet we’ll have H&K G11’s, OICW’s and XM8’s”
    *2018 Glock*
    “tHe GlOcK 45 aNd ThE gLoCk 19x ArE iNnOvAtIvE”

  • @juzeku
    @juzeku 5 років тому +353

    Battlefield Bad Company 2 anyone ?

    • @jhernandez2199
      @jhernandez2199 5 років тому +11

      Nah Ghost Recon baby

    • @hittingdasauce
      @hittingdasauce 5 років тому +8

      for it was socom fireteam bravo 1 n 2

    • @jhernandez2199
      @jhernandez2199 5 років тому

      @@hittingdasauce You saying before it?

    • @juzeku
      @juzeku 5 років тому +38

      It was seen mostly in Bad Company 2 (2010) that gun was my shit. I still use it when playing today with ACOG. Wish they remastered BC2

    • @Psychoangel-d23
      @Psychoangel-d23 5 років тому +7

      @@juzeku Saaame. I couldnt handle the other guns as good as the XM8 with acog+nade launcher. It really did good in every situation.

  • @ChickyNuggz43
    @ChickyNuggz43 Рік тому +1

    Ever since I was a wee young lad, I always had a fascination with this weapon. Was always hoping to see it in action and put into production.

  • @georgekontalexis8436
    @georgekontalexis8436 5 років тому +30

    Again please make a video about the hk g41 rifle!

    • @acbthr3840
      @acbthr3840 5 років тому

      Its coming on the 25th. Dont you worry

    • @georgekontalexis8436
      @georgekontalexis8436 5 років тому

      @@acbthr3840 Thank you so much for telling this!

  • @johnrildo2325
    @johnrildo2325 5 років тому +16

    Now THIS is a 21st century military rifle! We should have something more like this by now.
    I especially like the attachment point for accessories. I'd rather use the holes than picatinny rails.

    • @A-G-F-
      @A-G-F- 4 роки тому +1

      Mlok and Keymod are basically this

  • @SkarmoryThePG
    @SkarmoryThePG 5 років тому +4

    This is -amazingly- Starship Troopers and frankly I kinda love it.

  • @Rostov_red_beard
    @Rostov_red_beard Рік тому +1

    holy cow talk about forgotten! man i miss the early 2000s