Previous shower pan looks to be installed on a flat non pitched surface. Which was common practice back in the day until someone figured out that the pans needed to be pitched! So weather the weep holes were plugged or not all the water could never escape from under the floor tile and mud would always remain wet!
Is there a solution for a 2" drain pipe? Would you just NOT use the 3" adapter ring and instead put the FloFX drain directly down into the pipe? Seems like the adapter sealed and bolted to the cast iron drain bottom makes a good transition.
Better way to more accurately find the locations of the bolts lay a piece of paper down trace the drain so you know it's centered the trace or punch the holes out on the paper and transfer to the flange. Just keep a yellow folder of paper in the van for anytime you need a quick template. Good work though!
I have a 2 inch cast iron drain so the adapter cannot go down into the pipe. Im going to turn the adapter over and bolt it down that way. Its just a little higher than it would be the other way.
Great work as always. I’m about to start a very large shower pan, 9’x9’ and doing the dry pack and getting the sheets on properly should be challenging given the size, so the more I watch you go through the steps the more I’m mentally preparing myself for this task.
You want your mud about 3/4 of an inch higher than your drain at the surrounding walls in a shower this size just to make it easy on you guys wondering what a good number go for is when doing this
I never used that drain, but I'm wondering, can't a white marker do the same job as that torch? I would just soak the bolt head with any marker and that's it. I'm sure the torch would ve more precise but it seems a little too much. For some reason that caught my attention.
"It failed because of the wood curb". Yeah, I'd like to see that. hundreds of thousands of homes have wood curbs and never a failure, unless they came loose. And it sure beats flammable flexo-curb.
Always appreciate your content Isaac! Quick question: Do you stick with unmodified mortar for the corner membrane? And, can you Hydroban the corners even though the mortar isn't fully cured? Always looking for he best practice and I know Schluter has changes their position on this somewhat. Thanks again for what you do!!
The membrane installed, are they one size or come in many sizes? I see the folds one the walls seam to fit the size of your shower space. If I have a bigger shower can I get many sizes? You are my go to guy I see all your videos that are great, thanks for all you do.
So if I saw right, you tucked the corners between the curb and wall board? Never thought about doing that. Pretty cool overall with the flood test 3 hours in. I want to try this.
Removed tub that had a 4 to 6 inch drain from the wall. Got plumber to come in and move the drain to 9 3/4 (that’s the furthest we could go before breaking concrete) so I could install a schluter shower pan. However now the drain sits to high on the pan. Drain is about 2 3/8 from slab. Can defiantly fix but I’m trying to avoid recalling plumber to re do his work and cut into the slab. As this is a friend and he is not charging me. I have a few thoughts in mind but need some clarification and some advice. I could pour concrete and level it out to where the schluter drain and pan would fit. Or I could use the Oatey drain ( sits 1 1/8 from slab and do the shower with 4to1 mud bed. Prefer to use the pan but willing to the the mud bed. Any advice would be great. Thanks in advance.
Hey buddy. This is the first video that I’ve seen where someone out thin set and then deck mud. Is that the same requirements for placing deck mud on top of a hot mop?
my cast iron drain is in the corner. It was a floated shower pan with a corner drain. I'm redoing my shower, do I need to move the drain to the center of the shower?
Hey Issac...Do you guys use 4x4x16 curb block & 1x4x16 curb cap block to install your showers curbs? Also when building benches do you use 8x8x16 block to build benchs?
Hey bud I am diy my walkin shower and I didn't Accommodate for the becker board and my drain is to close to the wall and I have a square drain but it won't screw in cause of the becker board any ideas ????
Great videos Issac! I have learned a lot from your videos. My question for you is, if you had to use the old cast iron flange, how would you secure the mortar bed and sheet membrane to it, for a 100% waterproof connection? Also would you use a liquid membrane like aqua defense or hydroban around the corners and drain? Thanks in advance. Keep up the great educational videos.
Does anyone have a suggestion on how to use the Flofx adapter with a 3" drain hole? The plastic 3 hole flange is not 2 inches at the opening. It is 3 inches. Thank you.
Literally having an inspector not approve this this week. Lmao. Soo now i hold is hand and walk him threw like i do everyone🎉 i'm a fucking baby sitter here in whistler canada.
Important question! I have an old cast iron drain without access to it from underneath the subfloor. I have a linear drain I want to install. Is it possible to just use the universal drain body from the floFx, cut an ABS “tail piece” to glue into drain and set my linear drain into the Universal body? Please help
You can put the deck mud on right after the thin set. Its there to bond the mud to the concrete. You should have the deck mud mixed all ready to go after the thin set slurry bonding coat.
I'm sure this is in another video, but how do you measure the sheet membrane? It's obviously pre-cut. Do you just have a 2" overhang on each side from the inside dimensions of the pan?
Is it possible to install this on a preexisting custom tile shower pan without having to remove the entire pan. Reason being, a round drain was installed on the square tiled pan leaving a small but noticeable gap between the drain and the surrounding tile. Not only is it visually unappealing, difficult to keep clean but leaves concern about what problems may arise that can not be seen. Thanks!
Why not make the curb out of concrete bricks? That’s how I make my curbs and shower benches and haven’t had a fail yet. But I also use a PVC liner too. I nerve tried kerdi
I Don't want a *1) Dry Pack or a 2) Wet Pack or a 3) $800 pc of StyroFoam. I want a Heavy Duty Traditional SOLID Pre-Sloped Fiberglass or PVC Manufactured Pan with well thought out Pre-Sloped Curbs (STURDY, Flat, Squared OFF and Sharp / Not Rounded Corners) that screws to a already flat, smooth, level, plum Wood Flr with a vapor barrier underneath. This will last a LIFETIME Without Worry if installed correctly . . . especially if it Utilizes a FloFX Type Drain and skip the tile inside of the pan. Watch and listen closely to this video ( just 1 of 100's ( below ) on YT ) . . . and the many video's from TileCoach . . . This TINY Hole Caused This ENTIRE shower to FAIL
Can you use the old flange to mark the new holes in the plastic flange? Put them together and drill it out.
beat me to it ;)
This is why I love reading through the comments. That’s a great solution and I don’t know why I didn’t think of it!
Good point, with the PVC ones you can. With the cast iron ones they are usually oval to allow for play, since the cast is not perfect.
Doing a 32 bathroom project in whistler thanks for this video and great system and a great solution to a problem.
Previous shower pan looks to be installed on a flat non pitched surface. Which was common practice back in the day until someone figured out that the pans needed to be pitched! So weather the weep holes were plugged or not all the water could never escape from under the floor tile and mud would always remain wet!
Is there a solution for a 2" drain pipe? Would you just NOT use the 3" adapter ring and instead put the FloFX drain directly down into the pipe? Seems like the adapter sealed and bolted to the cast iron drain bottom makes a good transition.
Better way to more accurately find the locations of the bolts lay a piece of paper down trace the drain so you know it's centered the trace or punch the holes out on the paper and transfer to the flange. Just keep a yellow folder of paper in the van for anytime you need a quick template. Good work though!
I have a 2 inch cast iron drain so the adapter cannot go down into the pipe. Im going to turn the adapter over and bolt it down that way. Its just a little higher than it would be the other way.
Great work as always. I’m about to start a very large shower pan, 9’x9’ and doing the dry pack and getting the sheets on properly should be challenging given the size, so the more I watch you go through the steps the more I’m mentally preparing myself for this task.
That is a large one ! Good luck with that Gerald. Best Wishes.
You want your mud about 3/4 of an inch higher than your drain at the surrounding walls in a shower this size just to make it easy on you guys wondering what a good number go for is when doing this
1/4" per foot from the furthest point to drain...pretty easy to figure out
Great video thank you. Mineral scale is the correct term; efflourescence is incorrect.
I never used that drain, but I'm wondering, can't a white marker do the same job as that torch? I would just soak the bolt head with any marker and that's it. I'm sure the torch would ve more precise but it seems a little too much. For some reason that caught my attention.
You are a damn good tiler Isaac, thank you for your demonstrations.
I've had the same problem with my DeWalt drills dropping bits. 20V is worse than 12V.
hi,does your flofx will work on an old.cast iron drain pipe?or can you make a video on how to install it??
"It failed because of the wood curb". Yeah, I'd like to see that. hundreds of thousands of homes have wood curbs and never a failure, unless they came loose. And it sure beats flammable flexo-curb.
Fires in showers is an everyday occurrence 😂... Wood fails all the time in showers for many reasons.. get with the times
Always appreciate your content Isaac! Quick question: Do you stick with unmodified mortar for the corner membrane? And, can you Hydroban the corners even though the mortar isn't fully cured? Always looking for he best practice and I know Schluter has changes their position on this somewhat. Thanks again for what you do!!
He did a video were he used hydrobans new quick cure or something and flooed tested same day he put the mud bed down and everything
Great video!! Tanks for the great tips and info. always a pleasure watching you
Thanks!
The membrane installed, are they one size or come in many sizes? I see the folds one the walls seam to fit the size of your shower space.
If I have a bigger shower can I get many sizes? You are my go to guy I see all your videos that are great, thanks for all you do.
They come in a roll so you just trim to fit for the most part
So if I saw right, you tucked the corners between the curb and wall board? Never thought about doing that. Pretty cool overall with the flood test 3 hours in. I want to try this.
Removed tub that had a 4 to 6 inch drain from the wall. Got plumber to come in and move the drain to 9 3/4 (that’s the furthest we could go before breaking concrete) so I could install a schluter shower pan. However now the drain sits to high on the pan. Drain is about 2 3/8 from slab. Can defiantly fix but I’m trying to avoid recalling plumber to re do his work and cut into the slab. As this is a friend and he is not charging me. I have a few thoughts in mind but need some clarification and some advice. I could pour concrete and level it out to where the schluter drain and pan would fit. Or I could use the Oatey drain ( sits 1 1/8 from slab and do the shower with 4to1 mud bed. Prefer to use the pan but willing to the the mud bed. Any advice would be great. Thanks in advance.
Thanks Isaac, also thx for showing the new hydroban quick cure, that’s an awesome product and really is another game changer in tile trades👍🏻
Cheers✌🏻
Sorry if this has been asked. Can I use this method right up against Durock as well? Already bought 9 panels of them.
Can I put one of those acrylic shower pans over that using this method?
Have you tried the KNRS system? I need to redo my bathroom and was thinking about using KBRS.
Hey buddy. This is the first video that I’ve seen where someone out thin set and then deck mud. Is that the same requirements for placing deck mud on top of a hot mop?
my cast iron drain is in the corner. It was a floated shower pan with a corner drain. I'm redoing my shower, do I need to move the drain to the center of the shower?
Hey Issac...Do you guys use 4x4x16 curb block & 1x4x16 curb cap block to install your showers curbs? Also when building benches do you use 8x8x16 block to build benchs?
Hey bud I am diy my walkin shower and I didn't Accommodate for the becker board and my drain is to close to the wall and I have a square drain but it won't screw in cause of the becker board any ideas ????
Great videos Issac! I have learned a lot from your videos. My question for you is, if you had to use the old cast iron flange, how would you secure the mortar bed and sheet membrane to it, for a 100% waterproof connection? Also would you use a liquid membrane like aqua defense or hydroban around the corners and drain? Thanks in advance. Keep up the great educational videos.
Does anyone have a suggestion on how to use the Flofx adapter with a 3" drain hole? The plastic 3 hole flange is not 2 inches at the opening. It is 3 inches. Thank you.
Literally having an inspector not approve this this week. Lmao. Soo now i hold is hand and walk him threw like i do everyone🎉 i'm a fucking baby sitter here in whistler canada.
Important question!
I have an old cast iron drain without access to it from underneath the subfloor. I have a linear drain I want to install.
Is it possible to just use the universal drain body from the floFx, cut an ABS “tail piece” to glue into drain and set my linear drain into the Universal body?
Please help
Did you end up doing this how you described?
Just curious why you didn't wipe the slab with a wet sponge first
Yo Coach Ostrom,
How long does the ALL-SET slurry need to set up before installing the deck mud?
Or can anyone here with experience doing Isaac's method inform me on the matter? Thanks.
You can put the deck mud on right after the thin set. Its there to bond the mud to the concrete. You should have the deck mud mixed all ready to go after the thin set slurry bonding coat.
Hey man, great videos. What ya do if your drain bolts are rusted? Seems like they'll break before they'll turn.
Same issue. Any good solutions?
@@vinniecolosimo2956 I ended up removing the concrete and cutting the drain pipe.
Curious why a preformed pan wouldnt have worked for this application?
Great vid. More stabila and megalite
I'm sure this is in another video, but how do you measure the sheet membrane? It's obviously pre-cut. Do you just have a 2" overhang on each side from the inside dimensions of the pan?
Aim for 2 to 2.5 inches overlap of the liner on the inside walls and curb.
Im thinking i can make a leak proof shower wit water and ice shield and coil stock... You try it first though...
Is it possible to install this on a preexisting custom tile shower pan without having to remove the entire pan. Reason being, a round drain was installed on the square tiled pan leaving a small but noticeable gap between the drain and the surrounding tile. Not only is it visually unappealing, difficult to keep clean but leaves concern about what problems may arise that can not be seen. Thanks!
Why not make the curb out of concrete bricks? That’s how I make my curbs and shower benches and haven’t had a fail yet. But I also use a PVC liner too. I nerve tried kerdi
Does flow fx come with a hair trap?
Grates are sold separately
Looks like 1 1/2” galv. Should be 2” to meet code in norcal. And why not use the top of the old flange to mark the holes? Lol 😆
2". The holes in the top of the cast iron are usually oval to allow for play.
How much do you charge per hour,
I Don't want a *1) Dry Pack or a 2) Wet Pack or a 3) $800 pc of StyroFoam. I want a Heavy Duty Traditional SOLID Pre-Sloped Fiberglass or PVC Manufactured Pan with well thought out Pre-Sloped Curbs (STURDY, Flat, Squared OFF and Sharp / Not Rounded Corners) that screws to a already flat, smooth, level, plum Wood Flr with a vapor barrier underneath.
This will last a LIFETIME Without Worry if installed correctly . . . especially if it Utilizes a FloFX Type Drain and skip the tile
inside of the pan.
Watch and listen closely to this video ( just 1 of 100's ( below ) on YT ) . . . and the many video's from TileCoach . . .
This TINY Hole Caused This ENTIRE shower to FAIL
👍
As far as pronunciation/sound, it’s not ‘nitch’, it’s a ‘neesh’.
step bit !
the board in in the pan, that is not good
No t in niche
"EASY" change....That Part...
3 hours. 😅
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