Change CHEAP SHOWER DRAIN to FLO FX!!!
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- How to change out an existing Oatey drain to a Flo FX custom drain for tile showers without removing any concrete. Every Flo Fx bonding flange comes with an adapter to connect to an existing 3 piece Oatey or similar drain. This saves a lot of work when switching from an old school type drain with a pan liner to a new bonded waterproofing system like Schluter.
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side note, when using pvc, abs or all purpose glue, you have to hold the joining parts together with pressure for a little while because when it’s fusing together it tends push out the outward
I really wish I had started watching all of your videos before I began my bathroom remodel. I would have definitely gone with the FLO FX drain system rather than the traditional pre-slope, oatey style drain, liner, top-pan, etc.... I feel enlightened with so many of the videos I've watched, but I'm well past that point now to reverse course. Let's hope I did a good enough job with the older methods.
This is great! Thanks for posting Issac!. I will now convert to the FloFX and easier to install a membrane system. I did not want to do a rubber system. Your videos are really great for a DYI guy like me.
Issac you continue to share useful knowledge with the tile pros and diy’rs. Thank man for keeping it real. I love that you’ll show mistakes and accomplishments 🤘😎
Thanks Brendon!
That is indeed well thought drain with great build quality, for instance,
- inner flange covers 2” pipe edge when attached.
- takes guess work out when it comes to calculate height of 2” pipe, you just cut it flat with substrate you want drain to sit on
- drain has a lot of ridges and crevices that beside structural strength help to reliably set it in thinset
- fleece is not peeling off if you want to clean out bit of thin-set off of it with rug.
- square shape helps to center drain or check level with torpedo level.
Cost wise with grate it comes cheaper than any of Kerdi, Laticrete and etc
I wish they offer trendy linear drain options at some point.
All great points!
This whole series with the dummy proof setup is amazing, thanks
Keep seeing these Flo Flex drains, 😆 I’m going to have to try them out. 🙏 👍
You'll dig 'em especially if you do dry pack pans.
Silver metallic Sharpie shows up great on dark surfaces.
I use a Unibit (step drill) on plastic.
It seems like a socket wrench should be in Isaac's tool box...
I've noticed that in many shower drain videos by many different people, and almost all were professional installers! They instead struggled using slip-joint pliers, rib-joint pliers and adjustable wrenches, but no one used a socket wrench. Totally bizarre to say the least. I just installed a new shower drain and yes, I used a socket wrench.
We rarely have to tighten bolts on a drain ;) But yes a socket set or better yet an impact hex driver!
You look like Zoolander dropping a heavy blue steel look.
Haha I changed the thumbnail once you said that!
@@TileCoach dang. I liked it. I wasn't trying to be disparaging
Definitely my favorite drains on the market. Nice knife, I've got one too 😎
It's a sweet knife. Love it.
isn't there supposed to be a pvc liner in between the two flanges? And what about the weep holes? Did the caulking fill them?
From Miami Florida, You are the best bro...............
What up Joe! Thank you.
I'm going to order this Flo fx from you, I have a question, when we added the bottom flange and cemented the concrete floor it was done a little crooked, am I able to correct that when I add this Flo fx drain? Does it have a little room to level it when you glue into this bottom flange? 🤦♂️
Amateur DIYer here. These videos are fantastic! Can this be used with a neodrain linear drain?
Hello, love your art, can you make a series of shower videos , litteraly from bare floor to the tiles, if you allready have these, sorry , if not, it would awesome. Thank you.
Thanks for another thoughtful and informative video Isaac.
I really appreciate that you’re always so encouraging to everyone!
Is it okay to use their 3-piece adapter system if I’ve already applied a liquid applied membrane to my pre-slope?
no
Thanks man, you just saved my life
The only thing flo fx is missing is the hair tray filter that you can buy for the oatey drains... I'm looking at their site, I don't see a hair catcher...
What about a guy like me who's paranoid and wants a belt and suspenders installation? Can I install a liner pan and clamp it to the old school drain, then build the sloped float to the flow-fx adapter? Go over it all with hydro ban liquid membrane? Tiling plywood floor.
Honestly you are the best God bless
God Bless you too Alberto!
Great explanation and demo. Thanks.
Nice BSU sweatshirt!
What is the advantage of using the flow efx drain? It's not cheap and it will be covered up by tile. What am I missing here?
No mention on BSU hoodie? Go Broncos!
They need to release the linear version already
Love your content! Learned so much!! Question - I have a basement laundry room with a floor drain that I am tiling. I am breaking the concrete out to install new drain and reslope the concrete floor. Would I recess the FloFX into the concrete and then have the ditra go right up to the grate edge then tile? Not really sure what the layering should be since it's not in a mudbed. Do you have any videos on that?
Hey Isaac, please talk about how to fix uneven floor joists. Not any helpfully videos out there really.
I’ve got my old flimsy 1/2” plywood sheeting up and my 2x10 joists from the late 1960’s are all uneven. I’m thinking of sistering some 2x8’s to make everything even and level but not sure if 2x8’s are too small, can I glue and screw or do I need to bolt them etc. Thanks, love tour videos and your attitude.
We had a plumber cut out concrete and install a drain where we are installing a shower. He just left a plastic pipe sticking out 6 inches and said when you install drain just cut it to fit. Will that Flo FX bonding flange connect directly to it? That black plastic or PVC pipe whatever it is is about 2 3/8 inch OD and 1 7/8 inch ID.
Happy New Year to you too 🌲😉👍
Happy new year!
isnt everything not included though? because it specifically says "GRATE SOLD SEPARATELY!" and that makes it more than 80$ for a shower drain
You do great work... you just need some sockets or ratcheting wrenches brother.
Working on it!
Hey Isaac. Quick off topic question . If using Durock, do you embed it in your dry pack ? Love the videos man. Thanks in advance
No if using water in water out method. It’s fine if doing a surface applied waterproof method. But water in/out method will wick.
What is the outer diameter of the flo fx drain pipe?
Cool thanks for sharing 🇺🇸 👍
Great video! Is this existing pan pre-sloped? Would you be able to use self-leveler, then add a kerdi pan on top?
Do you have a link where to purchase these drains.. I like the idea of not having to do a pre-slope.. worth a try
I feel that you make things much more complicated than it has to be?
Does Flo FX make the adapter with the round bonding flange for a Schluter shower tray? When i use the Schluter Adapter Kit for existing drain flanges I always need to add 2 1/2 inch sheets of backerboard to build the pan up to height and have the bonding flange sit flush in the pan.
Can you use it with a liner ?
Just found your UA-cam channel brother you do great work. What do you think of Wedi board get ready to stand up shower in my house I am in NEW JERSEY?👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
I just ordered the round flange from Flo FX and there doesnt seem to be an adapter to connect to the three piece barrel drain. Any suggestions?
Also I thought the pan liner was supposed to go over the drain before you put the adapter on?
does this neck work with the circular flofx drain or I guess I should ask does the circular drain come with the adapter
Thank you for your great videos. I have an old shower with a drain with no flange. Question is, after I install this drain, I guess I need to redo dry pack to bring up to level with new drain? Thank you in advance
Yes
So with the bonding flange theres no weep holes to worry about? And no need for a pan liner?
Correct
Hello everyone can I leave the existing rubber pan liner and dry bed (old style). convert to the flofx and install new dry bed on top of the old dry bed as if I would be starting new with the flofx. system ? thanks
Do you have a video showing the prep work to install tile and the "finished drain" after pre slope/mud mud and bonding flange are installed? Trying to wrap my head around the weep holes and the drain rock i've seen in other installs. Does the Flow FX not need weep holes?
nope
How you lay tiles over painted concrete surface?
Where can i buy it in Canada ?
Hey Issac, will this conversion block the weep holes of the two stage drain? Is this to convert a traditional water in water out pan into a waterproof pan by waterproofing the top with membrane?
this drain requires a membrane over it thus the weep holes are no longer needed.
does flofx make a round one i can use with laticrete/schlutter foam base that have a clamp ring adapter in it?
Cool
What thinset would you use over go board. Love the flo fx drain.
Laticrete 253 Gold
Can I use this for a linear drain ?
Can you use it in a schluter foam shower ?
The model he's using no, but they do have one that works with the Schluter foam pan.
Dumb question here, but with this application is a vinyl liner still used? Thanks
No, surface waterproofing is applied to the top of the mortar bed.
@@TileCoach do you have a video for that? Thank you
Okay, I'm missing the "why" here. What is the point/advantage?
I use this bc it eliminates a lot of work in a shower build. I don't have to put in a pre-slope and wait a day for that to dry and I don't have to use a liner. So that alone eliminates a day or more of waiting. You can demo, get the wallboards up, and mud pan in one day. waterproof the next and start tiling on day 3.
There isn’t any. Us tile guys just like doing stupid stuff. Nothing to see here. Go find some painter to harass. Ask him why he puts his brush in a back and stuck it in the fridge. Give him hell!
@@benernst2764 I wasn't trying to be a smartass. @tilecoach starts with "how" , not "why". @drpepperjunior answer the question.
Do they make tile over drain?
^ what he asked please ^
I dont get it. any water which gets through the floor tile grout- and it will - will just slop around under the tiles. cause odor and mould. This is a bad setup. Use a puddle flange instead ! the flange is recessed into the substrata so it is level with the substrate top surface. Seal the floor and then any water penetration will go down the drain and keep the underside dry. USe A Puddle Flange !
Go Broncos!!!
3 phase drain
Why are those drains better?
Quite a few reasons why I like them better than Schluter or Laticrete drains. As far as why they are better than the Oatey's, it's more about just doing one slope and overall a better system in my opinion.
christies redhot glue has primer in it
Hey Mark! I read on the instructions on the bottle and it said UPC requires the use of purple primer on all connections. But I assume most municipalities are ok with no primer on any connections under 4" diameter that do not have pressure. I think its anything over 2" needs primer if it is under pressure like irrigation pipe. Maybe some others can chime in on that who know a little more.
@@TileCoach i was under the impression christies red hot had primer already in the glue,giving it its blue color,i may be wrong
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Is that a Grimsmo Knife?
Civivi
Can the Oatey drain grate be used for the grate, or will it only fit a flo fx grate?
Great question. Only a FloFX grate will fit.
@@TileCoach Do they make a tile insert grate?
$100 just for a drain? That’s just foolish. $45 for the grate that costs about $6 to make is something a shady company does. The rest of the drain is pvc which is the cheapest of all plastics to buy. $40 for the complete drain assembly would sell 2x as many units and be a very popular choice creating more sales. I’m adding another shower in a couple weeks and would buy 2 if the price wasn’t so ridiculous. Sorry I don’t waste money on shower drains.
If thats Christys red hot pvc glue then you dont need a primer
Any reason why a pan liner shouldn’t be also used ? It would be redundant but maybe a nice piece of mind ? Thanks
Yeah because the whole purpose of the drain is to NOT use a pan liner. It would creat problems.
It would be like a dentist giving you a root canal and then pulling the tooth just to make sure 🤪
What was that tool that you used to tighten up the bolts 🤔🤔🤔. Not a power tool 😂😂😂
Haha. I use what's in my box. I'm just glad it wasn't channel locks this time!
@tilecoach tell them they need to make a linear drain lol
Yes they do!
@@TileCoach I don’t see the linear drain on their website
@@TileCoach do you have information on the Flo Fx linear drain
No linear drain is a non-starter. Unless is a small ‘phone booth’ shower, single center drains are impractical and unsightly. We haven’t done a centered drain like that in over 5 years, which is 7 home builds.
7 home builds in 5 years...big deal. Isaac has done hundreds. Make your own video, maybe you'll learn something and teach others. A troll always has shit comments but never proof of his own good work.
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Thanks Jesus
I'll stick with the schluter drains, those drains look a little cheap like trugaurd,.
Sorry Isaac
No problem, I appreciate the feedback. We use Schluter for our line drains.
Schluter drain seems simple and effective compared to this
Stronger and looks better too
Schluter drain is good but definitely not as strong and you have to by a special adapter kit if you want to use an existing drain like I showed in this video.
You forgot to tell me you love me 😑
I love you and I love being your TileCoach!
The world works in metric mate.
Bs. The drain isn't setting flat, there's a gap. Bs bs
What about the rubber liner
What is the advantage of using the flow efx drain? It's not cheap and it will be covered up by tile. What am I missing here?
What is the advantage of using the flow efx drain? It's not cheap and it will be covered up by tile. What am I missing here?