grey talon 3ed is more like hwei ew (puts circle on ground rooting who enters) haze passive is kinda like belveth ult passive (every 2 hits deals stacking true damage) paradox shield looks more laike yasuo w (looks like she can move and isnt limited during the duration) shivs rage itself reminds me of how rumbles heat augments his abilites or maybe sett w or zeri passive looking how ir only affects one ability
I'm not sure riot games can do it even if they tried , their streamlining of games seems like what icefrog did to this game almost on purpose to counter riot games method of adapting existing games , but unlike riot he kept the insanity of powerful heroes instead of perfecting them to "perfect balance".
I'd say Wraith ult is very similar to Nautilus ult because of how it moves slowly towards the target and eventually knocks you up no matter how far you get away from it.
Out of all the commented suggestions, this one is definitely the biggest blunder on my end- I got caught up in the purple-ness of it like a fool. Great catch!
You had it wrong from the thumbnail because true villains know you should build Infernus to play like Singed. Flame trail, poison trail, get escalating exposure and it does the same, it's like your Liandry's Torment. Get the right other items and you can get the cooldown to 4-5 seconds. So you're constantly running through a fight pausing only for your ult to go off. If you're carrying you start stacking the defense. Who needs to actually shoot.
I appreciate your sense of humor and delivery. Some of the low key jokes were on point. Also, nice to see a breakdown of abilities done in a more entertaining and relatable way. Most folks who do this sort of video are dry as hell. And not in the dry humor kind of way.
Glad you enjoyed!! With all the graphics this turned out to be a MUCH larger project than I thought it would be- but I had fun with it I really appreciate your support!
2:44 >enigma black hole 3:22 > riki sleeping dart (removed ability lol) 4:55 > exactly IO tether LOL 4:59 > visage familiars ability 5:12 > ok tether allies and tethered allies can be "relocated"? thats IO lololol 6:34 >SSSSSUUNNNDDEEEERRR 7:08 > cant remember if bane still have aoe brainsap but that exactly it lol. 9:24 > venge swap of course. (i thought he would have chronosphere as ult lol) 9:53 >if it deals damage then its OD old astral imprisonment but thematic wise it felt like ringmaster escape box 10:00 > ok nevermind what i said before that luggage thing is phase shift and this one is illusory orb LOL HES PUCK 10:13 > VENO OLD ULT/ CURRENT AGH? (so this guy basicaly what if puck but support) 10:33 > erm willow cursed crown 11:23 >erm kunkka rum 11:43 > axe culling blade i guess its a generic ability 11:52 > uhh puck dream coil 12:52 >cold embrace lol 13:19 > OMG PANGO ROLL 13:44 > bruh cold feet lol 14:14 > generic aah ability so i guess unleash, battle trance, insatiable hunger and so forth. 14:52 > ok i dont want to say it but the fact that they add random aah rocks on the bottom its rubick telekinesis lol 15:33 > troll battle trance?, but usage wise it more like LD true form
@@seventh-hydra ohhh, you're a redditor, sorry! Hey man everyone is clapping and saying so true bro, you got me! I hope the reason your brain isn't fully developed is because of your age and not some kind of serious accident you got into, then at least you still have a shot. Blocked, I don't associate with children
Really underated video with great editing and nice script. Actually helped me get an overall understanding of the main roster and definitely made me consider playing it
I almost said Karthus' wall too, because it debuffs enemies that pass through it, which windwall doesn't do. But I'm a Braum main so I picked Braum for that one- I acknowledge my system is biased lol
While I know some DotA2 people have made content to compare the heroes of the games together, I'm glad you made one from the LoL perspective. I enjoy your energy. GLHF!
dota players have away easier time because the game mechanicallly uses a lot of the same logic and has so much in common , if feels like last 3 years was dota getting ideas from dealock , makessense since icefrog is working on both games
@@herewearegoingto2297 most of the thing s dealock has in common with dota have been implemented in the last 2-3 years so likelly the development of deadlock made its way into dota 2
This video is super fun to watch if you're a League veteran, but otherwise it's not for everyone, since despite being the most played video game in the world, a lot of people vehemently despise League, often for good reason. Great work, Standard Gaming!
@@ridori7376 Damn! I think what happened is I saw he had two arms, and thought "ah yes, two whips" and so now that's in the video forever- but I appreciate the fact check! Fortunately I think the Zac comparison still works
@@StandardGaming Funnily enough it's also a bit similar to Zac's "old new" ult. The one where he absorbed nearby enemies and then slammed them somewhere else.
I just wanna correct small mistakes I heard: Paradox wall doesn't stop bullets, it delays them for 1 sec. Dynamo's heal doesn't slow him a max level and he can shoot during it as well. Kelvin's dome doesn't increse healing but just heals. Viscous's puddle doesn't damage, only the inpact does. Also, Paradox is a girl in the lore but Pocket is non-binary.
I love this. As an Overwatch player I am much simpler though. Grey Talon has a bow and spams Arrows...is Hanzo. Yamato has a sword and dashes to people (yeah graples I know I know), Genji alert! Bebop...well you know, hook characters in these games. You know what Im talking about. Singularity is of course literally Zarya ult. Lash plays like Doomfist but his ult is Sigma ult. And the funniest of all for Overwatch players is Haze! : Imagine having Ana-sleepdart and Reaper ult in one kit. And while people in Overwatch constantly complained about Widow and Pharah being op...they literally made a flying Widow in this one. Well well well. Gaming is like pop music. They all steal from each other to achieve greateness. And I think Deadlock has the chance to be great right now.
@@Arhivite In theory you are right because of the dash and stuff. But I genuinely think Yamato feels closer to a hero like Genji when playing. Cant explain it though.
Hot take- I don't believe a guy named Vladimir with blood powers when he tells me he's totally not a vampire- that sounds like he's just trying to get me to let my guard down
@@StandardGaming He learned Blood Magic when he was held captive by some Darkin Warlord after Camavor "forgot" to pay the ransom. And since he has been popping in and out in important moments of history. He has a big collection of portraits and he might develop a bit of Dementia as of late.
I think it’s just an old joke in the community that if someone calls Vlad a vampire, you are required to tell em it’s HEMOMANCER. It stems from magikarpusedfly’s vlad champ spotlight.
I did the same thing starting deadlock. Asked my friend who is closest to singed or illaoi, and he recommended infernus. His sustain and dot makes me think more of singed than a brand squishy mage
Pocket's briefcase to me is more reminiscent of Vladimir's skills than Kayn's ult, but this entire video is pretty good at what it does! Sending this to get my league friends into this clearly superior MOBA.
@@StandardGaming Right! You should do one on items too, there's a lot of items that can be compared to League items, i.e Ethereal Shift = Zhonyas, Soul Rebirth = GA, Debuff Remover = QSS, etc.
been loving shiv, infernus, lady geist, seven, wraith, haze, abrams, vindicta and bebop. they all scratch some kind of itch I have when playing mobas, but so far infernus, geist and seven have clicked with me the most.
And get this- I've been working on a follow up but I've been going slower and trying to give it more substance, and in doing that I've very much missed the window where a follow-up video would be relevant. I really get how people fall in to the daily/weekly slop content- because even people saying "this video is silly" has driven more engagement than my other videos ever get.
@@StandardGaming well for sure don't get discouraged, there's plenty of time to make a followup if being honest; it aint like there's a deadline and somebody's counting the time keep up the good work nonetheless, cheers!
I think Ivy's ultimate is inspired by Batrider's ultimate from dota 2, Lady Geist's ult is inspired by Terrorblade's ult and Paradox's ult is inspired by Vengeful Spirit I believe
Ex-Overwatch Player here. I'll do my best to translate some of these characters: (Obviously the power of these abilities have been toned down / adjusted, You're not gonna delete a full health target with Haze's ult unless you're INSANELY FED) Abrams - Mauga's charge, Moira's secondary, Doomfist's ult. If you like playing Talon characters, he's the one for you Bebop - Roadhog hook + Ashe's coach gun + Bastion's sticky nade + Zarya full charge primary Dynamo - Sym's teleporter + Venture's ult (or Rein's, both are waves) + Idk, Lucio on heal mode? (Lucio mains can relate to how slow you feel) + Zarya's ult Han-Grey Talon - Hanzo meets battle mercy meets pre-reworked Sym (Her secondary used to pierce) + Roadhog's trap + flying riptire (Yeah this'll probably be my main...) Haze - Ana sleep dart + Sombra invis + Mauga's fire gun + DIE, DIE, DIE Infernus - Mauga meets discord orb + maneuverable genji dash + AOE Rein shatter Ivy - Hog trap + Mercy + Lifeweaver grip / Dva bomb depending on your choice Kelvin - Literal demon spawn (you know who I'm talking about - Mauga (jk)) + Sym primary + Cage Fight domain expansion Will update later
i miss old urgot, his ult was super underrated, it was obscene in lane (i'm now between you and your turret and i have damage resistance and you are slowed) and it was potentially teamfight-winning later on, swap the carry or the assassin and then win the fight easy.
I'd say Pocket's 3 is more like Fizz E if anything. But also as far as feel goes I'd say he plays more like Ekko than anything. Great poke, easy farm, great roams, tons of burst, and theoretically never dies
I love Viscous, my gloopy gloopy guy, because he actually does something unique that I expected more from in a game like this. His Puddle Punch directly interacts with the terrain, and I'm SHOCKED that there aren't more heroes that interact with terrain. It's such a missed oppertunity. Think of something like the Vanguards Grapnel Launcher ability. He can use it to jump to enemies (Like Yamato) but can also use it on walls to escape or gank from strange angles. I hope that with time more interesting heroes that actually interacts with the terrain shows up because so far most characters (Not you my lovely gloopy gloop) feel boring and uninspired. Like the game designers are all stuck in 2008
Honestly, there's a lot of point I want to contest, but it's each person's opinion. Anyway, to get The Elephant out of the room, most skills are much more similar to another MOBA that's from Valve that's DOTA2, and that out of the way. After this video, there's one hero released that's Mirage which when compare to LOL his kits are. 1: Tornado: Turn himself into Tornado and dash into the direction, Enemies hit got CC with Knock-up and Stuck on the air, Mirage also buff himself with some Evasion Similar: Either J4's Flag Q combo, or Shen with E, and W 2: Fire Scarab: Shoot up to 4 Scarab which Steal Max HP and Debuff Bullet Resist Similar: Probably mix of Vlad's Q, and also how Jhin and Xerath's R work 3:Djinn's Mark: When shoot at enemy, mark them, this mark can stack after a delay, when duration expired, or 3 is used, Marked Enemy received Damage (Damage is multiply by each mark from x1, x2,x4,x8,x12) Similar: Probably Zed's R 4:Traveler: Choose either teammates or Enemy Revealed on the map, Channeling and then warp to the point where Target WAS when you start channelling, also buff your Fire Rate and Move Speed. Similar: Shen's R... And also probably Galio's R as in Travel to where target was.
I figured that going in- I almost talked about the TF2 parallels as well- but at a certain point I decided for my own sanity to keep the scope as League-centric as possible Like, I do bring up Overwatch for Kelvin, but then I didn't talk about how Wraith is a lot like Widowmaker or Abrams' charge is like Reinhardt because it's a slippery slope lol
@@StandardGaming Yeah that is totally fair, a lot of the games in the space are comparable in almost every way you can just get bogged down drawing all the direct mappings. As an aside, I feel the towers die much too quick, and that a buyback and fortify mechanic like from DotA would help the game immensely. The identity for the IP feels strong even so early in its life, and it quotes other games but does not rip them off, so I am hopeful it will become a very good game.
Wanted to let you know a different channel made a Dota comparison video - ua-cam.com/video/oo1JMcAohGE/v-deo.html It only has 3k views- You should go watch the whole thing and like it and leave him a supportive comment
I played the two most and biggest moba game and I appreciate this version that you made for LOL comparison. I mean I forgot that Bebop ult is literally Velkoz ult which I forgot and being a more DOTA moba guy and diehard fan of that it is Phoenix basic ability the healing instead of damage in my head.
so there is 4 lanes with 6 players, and first person league of legends style. my question is, is there a shop and items to snowball your characters as you go. i loved the snowballing mechanics of league of legends, reward for playing well and then you can snowball and finish and dominate the match. would be cool if this game was snowbally.
Shiv is my main because I immediately noticed how similar to Pyke he is (my league main) I’m very happy even though he’s getting nerfed with almost every patch (like pyke) lol
Lash is quite literally just Kha'Zix. One is a high damage attack, Two is a leap, Three is the heal. The only difference is the ult. Lash ult can also grab the entire enemy team btw not just two of them.
as someone who has played all four (unite, deadlock, league and overwatch), some characters like paradox and vindicta resemble characters from pokemon unite more so than league or ow (chandelure and decidueye respectively)
Odds are they're mostly pulled from DoTA 2 - Valve's previous MOBA which is the direct sequel to the Warcraft 3 mod that pioneered the genre But i've been curious about the paralells with Pokemon Unite as well thanks for the info!
shouldve been Explained in league of legend terms, I also love it went from Dota mod to its own game to now being compared back to it’s original company inspiration
Before anyone says 'they copied league hurr durr'. Know some of the Moba Genre's history, it might blow your mind. LoL was created by Guinsoo, who was one of the early developers of Dota. Alot of the first and main heroes in LoL were directly from Dota including future heroes and spell archetypes (i.e pudge, AM, venomancer etc). The extent to which Guinsoo was seen as a copycat, or rather someone that pooled from his own contributions in Dota, is often hotly debated. If we go further back, we'd realize that Dota initially based on Aeon of Strife (and was an entirely different game by the time of Allstars) AoS probably got its inspiration from the hero unit mechanic of SC.
Basically no one in the comments or the video has said they copied League- tons of Dota players saying "ACTUALLY IT'S LIKE DOTA" though I got Warcraft III as a kid specifically to play DOTA- I know the genre, but I wanted to make a video comparing Deadlock to League because I play League
I heard that you can give the game to others on steam because its in early access stage rn. Is anyone willing to lend me the game, I have seen it everywhere and I really want to play it.
Mostly of this characters have at least 1 hability with a similar function of other games characters like paladins, overwatch, dota and league i dont say its bad its fun to think how diversive characters can be
This is a great video, and will bring League players over, because League players are unable to understand anything if you can't describe it using League mechanics
you could explain it much easier by using Dota heroes as an example, like, Lady Geist is pretty much the daughter of death prophet and terrorblade but she uses a gun.
Wanted to let you know a different channel made a Dota comparison video - ua-cam.com/video/oo1JMcAohGE/v-deo.html It only has 3k views- You should go watch the whole thing and like it and leave him a supportive comment
@@knnoko2712 I literally forgot Rell existed. This was supposed to be a fun project with even more extensive comparisons, but then it wound up having over 100 motion graphics and I had to call it
Yamato Dash seems more like Naafiri dash as she has to lock onto a target and cant use it on terrain I think the only reason he said Camille is because it has a rope
Today a NEW hero dropped- Mirage - I think he's giving bit of Janna, a bit of of Shen
grey talon 3ed is more like hwei ew (puts circle on ground rooting who enters)
haze passive is kinda like belveth ult passive (every 2 hits deals stacking true damage)
paradox shield looks more laike yasuo w (looks like she can move and isnt limited during the duration)
shivs rage itself reminds me of how rumbles heat augments his abilites or maybe sett w or zeri passive looking how ir only affects one ability
11:38
i can smell Riot already starting drafting Moba shooter game
wouldn't be surprised
I'm not sure riot games can do it even if they tried , their streamlining of games seems like what icefrog did to this game almost on purpose to counter riot games method of adapting existing games , but unlike riot he kept the insanity of powerful heroes instead of perfecting them to "perfect balance".
@@MrRafagigapr Icefrog worked on this?
@@skysyrup yeah he did i learned earlier today its really awesome
How're they gonna make it different enough from Valorant?
I'd say Wraith ult is very similar to Nautilus ult because of how it moves slowly towards the target and eventually knocks you up no matter how far you get away from it.
Out of all the commented suggestions, this one is definitely the biggest blunder on my end- I got caught up in the purple-ness of it like a fool.
Great catch!
for old league player
2:42 old galio ult
8:36 old warwick ult
You had it wrong from the thumbnail because true villains know you should build Infernus to play like Singed.
Flame trail, poison trail, get escalating exposure and it does the same, it's like your Liandry's Torment. Get the right other items and you can get the cooldown to 4-5 seconds. So you're constantly running through a fight pausing only for your ult to go off. If you're carrying you start stacking the defense. Who needs to actually shoot.
This is awesome and you have a great point and I'm gonna try this build.
However, counterpoint- flame guy go "fwoosh"
@@StandardGaming Countercounterpoint, you can go fwoosh while you zoomie zoom zoom.
Came for the Barotrauma updates, stayed because I also used to play LoL and am currently addicted to Deadlock as well.
MY TARGET AUDIENCE!!!
Barotrauma too? Nice
@@blehbleh9283 Yeah I covered the development over 4 years- there's a supercut on the channel!
I appreciate your sense of humor and delivery. Some of the low key jokes were on point. Also, nice to see a breakdown of abilities done in a more entertaining and relatable way. Most folks who do this sort of video are dry as hell. And not in the dry humor kind of way.
Glad you enjoyed!!
With all the graphics this turned out to be a MUCH larger project than I thought it would be- but I had fun with it
I really appreciate your support!
Not mentioning Vindicta gold generation on ultimate to compare her to what she actually is, that is Pyke is criminal
@@cloudson3886 Yeah but now YOU mentioned it- teamwork!
2:44 >enigma black hole
3:22 > riki sleeping dart (removed ability lol)
4:55 > exactly IO tether LOL
4:59 > visage familiars ability
5:12 > ok tether allies and tethered allies can be "relocated"? thats IO lololol
6:34 >SSSSSUUNNNDDEEEERRR
7:08 > cant remember if bane still have aoe brainsap but that exactly it lol.
9:24 > venge swap of course. (i thought he would have chronosphere as ult lol)
9:53 >if it deals damage then its OD old astral imprisonment but thematic wise it felt like ringmaster escape box
10:00 > ok nevermind what i said before that luggage thing is phase shift and this one is illusory orb LOL HES PUCK
10:13 > VENO OLD ULT/ CURRENT AGH? (so this guy basicaly what if puck but support)
10:33 > erm willow cursed crown
11:23 >erm kunkka rum
11:43 > axe culling blade i guess its a generic ability
11:52 > uhh puck dream coil
12:52 >cold embrace lol
13:19 > OMG PANGO ROLL
13:44 > bruh cold feet lol
14:14 > generic aah ability so i guess unleash, battle trance, insatiable hunger and so forth.
14:52 > ok i dont want to say it but the fact that they add random aah rocks on the bottom its rubick telekinesis lol
15:33 > troll battle trance?, but usage wise it more like LD true form
@@bringmethanos420 Bro your name is "bringmethanos420" lmao
@@bringmethanos420 I'm just saying, it's not exactly the name of a grass-toucher lmao.
@@seventh-hydra ohhh, you're a redditor, sorry! Hey man everyone is clapping and saying so true bro, you got me! I hope the reason your brain isn't fully developed is because of your age and not some kind of serious accident you got into, then at least you still have a shot. Blocked, I don't associate with children
finally a dota player
@@bringmethanos420 look at this guy getting ratio'd
On the point of Lash, he can actually grab any number of targets as long as they are in his aoe and he has line of sight to them.
Really underated video with great editing and nice script. Actually helped me get an overall understanding of the main roster and definitely made me consider playing it
Paradox's wall is more like yasuo wind wall, and shiv's damage mitigation id arguably more like rengar's
I almost said Karthus' wall too, because it debuffs enemies that pass through it, which windwall doesn't do.
But I'm a Braum main so I picked Braum for that one- I acknowledge my system is biased lol
6:11 id argue its most similar to aurora ult, just minus the teleporting
I almost said Aurora's ult!!! Good alternate
That's what I was thinking xD
Shiv's third ability is quite like Death's Dance, but mitigated damage healing is tied to a button press instead of killing someone.
Amazing video! I was thinking about deadlock like this and it’s a great representation for new players coming from league
While I know some DotA2 people have made content to compare the heroes of the games together, I'm glad you made one from the LoL perspective. I enjoy your energy.
GLHF!
I enjoyed making it! I was honestly surprised no one else had done the idea yet - thank you for watching!
dota players have away easier time because the game mechanicallly uses a lot of the same logic and has so much in common , if feels like last 3 years was dota getting ideas from dealock , makessense since icefrog is working on both games
@@MrRafagigaprisn’t it the other way around? It’s more likely that deadlock took ideas from dota
@@herewearegoingto2297 most of the thing s dealock has in common with dota have been implemented in the last 2-3 years so likelly the development of deadlock made its way into dota 2
This video is super fun to watch if you're a League veteran, but otherwise it's not for everyone, since despite being the most played video game in the world, a lot of people vehemently despise League, often for good reason. Great work, Standard Gaming!
Just a side note, Haze's ult spreads the damage if there are more enemies inside her radius.
I don't know where you got the idea that Lash can only grab 2 people with his ult. You can grab their entire team if you time it well enough.
@@ridori7376 Damn! I think what happened is I saw he had two arms, and thought "ah yes, two whips" and so now that's in the video forever- but I appreciate the fact check!
Fortunately I think the Zac comparison still works
@@StandardGaming Funnily enough it's also a bit similar to Zac's "old new" ult. The one where he absorbed nearby enemies and then slammed them somewhere else.
I love noticing the shared design space across all the MOBAs
I just wanna correct small mistakes I heard:
Paradox wall doesn't stop bullets, it delays them for 1 sec.
Dynamo's heal doesn't slow him a max level and he can shoot during it as well.
Kelvin's dome doesn't increse healing but just heals.
Viscous's puddle doesn't damage, only the inpact does.
Also, Paradox is a girl in the lore but Pocket is non-binary.
Yamato Ulti gives her Unstoppable too. So it is like Trynda ulti+Olaf ulti
I love this. As an Overwatch player I am much simpler though. Grey Talon has a bow and spams Arrows...is Hanzo. Yamato has a sword and dashes to people (yeah graples I know I know), Genji alert! Bebop...well you know, hook characters in these games. You know what Im talking about. Singularity is of course literally Zarya ult. Lash plays like Doomfist but his ult is Sigma ult. And the funniest of all for Overwatch players is Haze! : Imagine having Ana-sleepdart and Reaper ult in one kit. And while people in Overwatch constantly complained about Widow and Pharah being op...they literally made a flying Widow in this one. Well well well. Gaming is like pop music. They all steal from each other to achieve greateness. And I think Deadlock has the chance to be great right now.
tbh Shiv is closer to Genji than Yamato
@@Arhivite In theory you are right because of the dash and stuff. But I genuinely think Yamato feels closer to a hero like Genji when playing. Cant explain it though.
10:20 seven is seventh character from the right
INCREDIBLE- that had to be on purpose right?!
Lol, I love how a champion's abilities in deadlock are all ultimate abilities for league champions.
icefrog from dota 2 is the one working on deadlock so it makes sense , to be honest this game seems to have a even higher skill ceilling than dota
That's Icefrog for ya, he never liked following the rules.
Most of them is from dota honestly since its the same creator, they even copy pasted puck with veno ult into the game with pocket
Dota2 basic abilities is pretty much Lol ultimates
@@MrRafagigapr Maybe for micro but not macro.
Nice video
Also, Paradox is wearing a mask
Great video man i laughed a lot
There will never be a day when people realize Vladimir isn't a vampire xD
@@NerdLegionInc Idk man- "Hemomancer" just sounds like a Vampire who doesn't want to get caught
@@StandardGaming Vlad is just using the VPN of his time
He's been looking like a gay vampire for 15 years so that's just what he is
6:26 Vladimir is an HEMOMANCER. (TL;DR: Blood bender) The only actual Vampire in LoL is Briar.
Hot take- I don't believe a guy named Vladimir with blood powers when he tells me he's totally not a vampire- that sounds like he's just trying to get me to let my guard down
@@StandardGaming He learned Blood Magic when he was held captive by some Darkin Warlord after Camavor "forgot" to pay the ransom.
And since he has been popping in and out in important moments of history. He has a big collection of portraits and he might develop a bit of Dementia as of late.
I think it’s just an old joke in the community that if someone calls Vlad a vampire, you are required to tell em it’s HEMOMANCER. It stems from magikarpusedfly’s vlad champ spotlight.
Briar isn't a vampire but a blood golem.
I did the same thing starting deadlock. Asked my friend who is closest to singed or illaoi, and he recommended infernus. His sustain and dot makes me think more of singed than a brand squishy mage
Paradox isn't (strictly) a robot. their head is a mask, paradox being the name of the group that hides behind them...
meanwhile everytime I look at Paradox, I think I'm looking at a motorcycle rider lmao
Pocket's briefcase to me is more reminiscent of Vladimir's skills than Kayn's ult, but this entire video is pretty good at what it does!
Sending this to get my league friends into this clearly superior MOBA.
@@fragtrappo Good suggestion! I also nearly said Fizz's jump move
@@StandardGaming Right! You should do one on items too, there's a lot of items that can be compared to League items, i.e Ethereal Shift = Zhonyas, Soul Rebirth = GA, Debuff Remover = QSS, etc.
Ohoo yes- it's a slippery slope of scaling complexity once I start talking about items/builds but I'm definitely considering it!
been loving shiv, infernus, lady geist, seven, wraith, haze, abrams, vindicta and bebop. they all scratch some kind of itch I have when playing mobas, but so far infernus, geist and seven have clicked with me the most.
7:19 you can grab 6 players with lash's ult (the entire enemy team) if you position right not just 2
this video alone will take you to at least 100k lmao good luck
YOU WERE RIGHT- thanks for believing in me
Love this concept, anything to make Deadlock more accessible to the masses
Bebop uppercut does not only send targets away. Depend on where you look, the target can be sent that way
love this - super cute comps!
Dynamo definitely feels more like Rell - even with his playstyle.
That being said, the champs and playstyle feel super fresh and inovative.
Great video, not Nitpicking, but Paradox isn't a robot. She's just an Irish lady in a mask.
That's not a nit pick- that's relevant info I wish I'd realized before publishing the video- I appreciate it!
Scottish
As an italian, Dynamo's hand gesture when he's using the heal circle always makes me think he's approximating the move
i thought this video was gonna be some more surprising stuff, instead we got a video like the 2013 minecraft vs IRL comparisons i watched as a kid
Unfortunately, the algorithm LOVED it.
@@StandardGaming well that is certainly true
And get this-
I've been working on a follow up but I've been going slower and trying to give it more substance, and in doing that I've very much missed the window where a follow-up video would be relevant.
I really get how people fall in to the daily/weekly slop content- because even people saying "this video is silly" has driven more engagement than my other videos ever get.
@@StandardGaming well for sure don't get discouraged, there's plenty of time to make a followup if being honest; it aint like there's a deadline and somebody's counting the time
keep up the good work nonetheless, cheers!
Imagine how broken a single deadlock champ in league would be
haze is also just twitch, like it's a stealth based ADC that has stacking damage and has an I win button ult that benefits from on hits
I think Ivy's ultimate is inspired by Batrider's ultimate from dota 2, Lady Geist's ult is inspired by Terrorblade's ult and Paradox's ult is inspired by Vengeful Spirit I believe
That makes sense!
There is a character in the game files which could be released soon that literally has batrider ult haha
They actually have an in development character that has batrider lasso as the ult, you can see them all in the practice tool through dev console
Nah batrider ult gonna be holiday
LG ult is definitely TB's ult in the game
Ex-Overwatch Player here. I'll do my best to translate some of these characters: (Obviously the power of these abilities have been toned down / adjusted, You're not gonna delete a full health target with Haze's ult unless you're INSANELY FED)
Abrams - Mauga's charge, Moira's secondary, Doomfist's ult. If you like playing Talon characters, he's the one for you
Bebop - Roadhog hook + Ashe's coach gun + Bastion's sticky nade + Zarya full charge primary
Dynamo - Sym's teleporter + Venture's ult (or Rein's, both are waves) + Idk, Lucio on heal mode? (Lucio mains can relate to how slow you feel) + Zarya's ult
Han-Grey Talon - Hanzo meets battle mercy meets pre-reworked Sym (Her secondary used to pierce) + Roadhog's trap + flying riptire (Yeah this'll probably be my main...)
Haze - Ana sleep dart + Sombra invis + Mauga's fire gun + DIE, DIE, DIE
Infernus - Mauga meets discord orb + maneuverable genji dash + AOE Rein shatter
Ivy - Hog trap + Mercy + Lifeweaver grip / Dva bomb depending on your choice
Kelvin - Literal demon spawn (you know who I'm talking about - Mauga (jk)) + Sym primary + Cage Fight domain expansion
Will update later
Goo Guy's ult feels SO much like playing hamster- though hamster is WAY more mobile
Paradox wall is more like Yasuo wall no? since it is stationary and the user doesn't take damage
3:14 isn’t that like Quinn too?
i miss old urgot, his ult was super underrated, it was obscene in lane (i'm now between you and your turret and i have damage resistance and you are slowed) and it was potentially teamfight-winning later on, swap the carry or the assassin and then win the fight easy.
Urgot was the first champ I got a skin for- and I sucked at him sooooon bad- but my hand was a chainsaw!
Cant Lash pick as many enemies as he can mark on his ult?
@@Edujs23 He sure can! A few people have pointed it out- I misspoke in the process of comparing it to Zac :(
I'd say Pocket's 3 is more like Fizz E if anything. But also as far as feel goes I'd say he plays more like Ekko than anything. Great poke, easy farm, great roams, tons of burst, and theoretically never dies
I love Viscous, my gloopy gloopy guy, because he actually does something unique that I expected more from in a game like this. His Puddle Punch directly interacts with the terrain, and I'm SHOCKED that there aren't more heroes that interact with terrain. It's such a missed oppertunity. Think of something like the Vanguards Grapnel Launcher ability. He can use it to jump to enemies (Like Yamato) but can also use it on walls to escape or gank from strange angles. I hope that with time more interesting heroes that actually interacts with the terrain shows up because so far most characters (Not you my lovely gloopy gloop) feel boring and uninspired. Like the game designers are all stuck in 2008
Honestly, there's a lot of point I want to contest, but it's each person's opinion.
Anyway, to get The Elephant out of the room, most skills are much more similar to another MOBA that's from Valve that's DOTA2, and that out of the way.
After this video, there's one hero released that's Mirage which when compare to LOL his kits are.
1: Tornado: Turn himself into Tornado and dash into the direction, Enemies hit got CC with Knock-up and Stuck on the air, Mirage also buff himself with some Evasion
Similar: Either J4's Flag Q combo, or Shen with E, and W
2: Fire Scarab: Shoot up to 4 Scarab which Steal Max HP and Debuff Bullet Resist
Similar: Probably mix of Vlad's Q, and also how Jhin and Xerath's R work
3:Djinn's Mark: When shoot at enemy, mark them, this mark can stack after a delay, when duration expired, or 3 is used, Marked Enemy received Damage (Damage is multiply by each mark from x1, x2,x4,x8,x12)
Similar: Probably Zed's R
4:Traveler: Choose either teammates or Enemy Revealed on the map, Channeling and then warp to the point where Target WAS when you start channelling, also buff your Fire Rate and Move Speed.
Similar: Shen's R... And also probably Galio's R as in Travel to where target was.
Vladimir is not a vampire. Briar is a vampire.
I just learned this- though "Im not a vampire Im just a hemomancer" sounds EXACTLY like something a vampire would say as a trick
"Hemomancer"
Vlad is a blood bender while Briar is just a loose experiment.
Briar isn't a vampire but a blood golem.
Honestly the deadlock heroes are much more comparable to HoN/DotA heroes. For example, Goo Monster is just like Pangolier, an annoying bouncy goober.
I figured that going in- I almost talked about the TF2 parallels as well- but at a certain point I decided for my own sanity to keep the scope as League-centric as possible
Like, I do bring up Overwatch for Kelvin, but then I didn't talk about how Wraith is a lot like Widowmaker or Abrams' charge is like Reinhardt because it's a slippery slope lol
@@StandardGaming Yeah that is totally fair, a lot of the games in the space are comparable in almost every way you can just get bogged down drawing all the direct mappings. As an aside, I feel the towers die much too quick, and that a buyback and fortify mechanic like from DotA would help the game immensely. The identity for the IP feels strong even so early in its life, and it quotes other games but does not rip them off, so I am hopeful it will become a very good game.
Agreed! I love a Valve success story- very interested in how they'll tweak stuff as testing progresses
Wanted to let you know a different channel made a Dota comparison video - ua-cam.com/video/oo1JMcAohGE/v-deo.html
It only has 3k views-
You should go watch the whole thing and like it and leave him a supportive comment
15:02 behold the upper quadrant of his cranium
Doesn’t Zara’s ult deal 0 damage?
if you read the hero selection from right to left, SEVEN is the 7th hero
Someone else pointed this out too- blew my mind
The litigious joke made made me chuckle hahah
I played the two most and biggest moba game and I appreciate this version that you made for LOL comparison. I mean I forgot that Bebop ult is literally Velkoz ult which I forgot and being a more DOTA moba guy and diehard fan of that it is Phoenix basic ability the healing instead of damage in my head.
15:10 its literally Vi ult without the knockup she does at the end of it.
The you for the Amazing explanation. Btw wouldn't yasou's "wind wall" be a better comperison for paradox shield?
Or Karthus' wall yeah- I just love Braum
Ivy ult is basically Kalista ult, considering late game Kalista literally flies with kiting. Biggest difference is the duration and knock-up
so there is 4 lanes with 6 players, and first person league of legends style. my question is, is there a shop and items to snowball your characters as you go. i loved the snowballing mechanics of league of legends, reward for playing well and then you can snowball and finish and dominate the match. would be cool if this game was snowbally.
yup it!'s a Moba with itemization and all that
Feel like a missed comparison opportunity for Gray Talon ult and Ez and Jinx ult but steerable
That paradox aoe pulse thingy seems a bit more like a neeko Q to me
Shiv is my main because I immediately noticed how similar to Pyke he is (my league main) I’m very happy even though he’s getting nerfed with almost every patch (like pyke) lol
Dynamo 4 and 1 are basically Rell. He also fulfills a similar support role as rell
Lash is quite literally just Kha'Zix. One is a high damage attack, Two is a leap, Three is the heal. The only difference is the ult. Lash ult can also grab the entire enemy team btw not just two of them.
as someone who has played all four (unite, deadlock, league and overwatch), some characters like paradox and vindicta resemble characters from pokemon unite more so than league or ow (chandelure and decidueye respectively)
Odds are they're mostly pulled from DoTA 2 - Valve's previous MOBA which is the direct sequel to the Warcraft 3 mod that pioneered the genre
But i've been curious about the paralells with Pokemon Unite as well thanks for the info!
6:11 half the roster can just jump out of a j4 ult. I don't think you can even pocket TP out of a kelvin dome.
shivs bloodletting (3) is just like deaths dance passive
shouldve been Explained in league of legend terms, I also love it went from Dota mod to its own game to now being compared back to it’s original company inspiration
16:15 fun fact, that was a concept for Gwen's ult of stitching enemies together
Incredible.
the paradox shield looks not moveable ( idk i havent played the game ) so its more like yasuo w cuz braum can move w the shield
Lady geist is not canonically a vampire, she has binded a spirit to her arm that gives her the powers she uses in the game.
Neither is Vladimir, he's a Hemomancer. So, no vampires at all!
11:19 isn't this more like dr mundos Heart Zapper?
Partially, but HZ has a whole AOE damage element that Shiv's ability doesn't
Before anyone says 'they copied league hurr durr'. Know some of the Moba Genre's history, it might blow your mind.
LoL was created by Guinsoo, who was one of the early developers of Dota. Alot of the first and main heroes in LoL were directly from Dota including future heroes and spell archetypes (i.e pudge, AM, venomancer etc).
The extent to which Guinsoo was seen as a copycat, or rather someone that pooled from his own contributions in Dota, is often hotly debated.
If we go further back, we'd realize that Dota initially based on Aeon of Strife (and was an entirely different game by the time of Allstars)
AoS probably got its inspiration from the hero unit mechanic of SC.
Basically no one in the comments or the video has said they copied League- tons of Dota players saying "ACTUALLY IT'S LIKE DOTA" though
I got Warcraft III as a kid specifically to play DOTA- I know the genre, but I wanted to make a video comparing Deadlock to League because I play League
I'm only a minute in but, wouldn't Abrams charge fall more in line with Poppy E functionally?
That's a really good alternative- though you can't steer Poppy's E after casting it
More like skarner E tbh and his siphon life is like swain ult
2:45 yes, it's called gravity
cool concept
i just played the training of this game and im already hooked, can't wait to get my ass beat in lane by people that were able to pick up alpha early
Now we just need an upcomin hit netflix series about deadlock
there isn't a botlane for DUO ?
There are two duo lanes, actually - either the two outer or two inner depending on the game
I heard that you can give the game to others on steam because its in early access stage rn. Is anyone willing to lend me the game, I have seen it everywhere and I really want to play it.
Mostly of this characters have at least 1 hability with a similar function of other games characters like paladins, overwatch, dota and league i dont say its bad its fun to think how diversive characters can be
This is exactly what league of legends needs tbh
Right?
Please give Taliyah a gun. My girl needs to go bird hunting and kill Azir.
Not mentioning Singed for Infernus Flame Dash is criminal
But now you did- good teamwork :D
Dynamo ult is like OG Galio ult too lol.
Edit: omg I forgot about old Urgot ult. Lol
Oh man I forgot OG Galio ult- that would've been perfect
You mean enigma ult, OG enigma from dots...
@@mateoemilioalfaroalcega7498 This is a League comparison video bro. Let them have their fun.
@@mateoemilioalfaroalcega7498 I only tried a little bit of DOTA but will try Enigma if I play again! 😎😎
This is a great video, and will bring League players over, because League players are unable to understand anything if you can't describe it using League mechanics
As a League Player, I am unable to understand anything period.
you could explain it much easier by using Dota heroes as an example, like, Lady Geist is pretty much the daughter of death prophet and terrorblade but she uses a gun.
Good suggestion- only I don't play DoTA- but I appreciate the folks that do adding context :)
Wanted to let you know a different channel made a Dota comparison video - ua-cam.com/video/oo1JMcAohGE/v-deo.html
It only has 3k views-
You should go watch the whole thing and like it and leave him a supportive comment
2:42 isn't that more like Rel? Great video btw
I know both Dynamos's and Aurelion Sol's abilities are called Singularity but come one, the Rell comparison was pretty much 1 to 1
@@knnoko2712 I literally forgot Rell existed.
This was supposed to be a fun project with even more extensive comparisons, but then it wound up having over 100 motion graphics and I had to call it
@@StandardGaming Yeah, that tracks lol. Great video by the way.
closer to dota heros, ivy is visage and io
singularity is blackhole, you even can use refresher on it
razor is seven
they werent very original
Right, but in this video I compared them to League Champs!
The Dynamo teleport kinda looks like Lissandra's E
emo spy w a magic wardrobe boy do i feel *scene*
I'd liken yamato crimson slash to Yone W where he gains a shield similar to yamato gaining health both based on targets hit
sir, may I translate this video and repost it on bilibili? It'll be non-profitable and I'll give you full credit, thanks
9:05 paradox shield is more like an yasuo wall
Yamato Dash seems more like Naafiri dash as she has to lock onto a target and cant use it on terrain I think the only reason he said Camille is because it has a rope
and cool sword legs- Naafiri is good option too!