FYI, it's the intake charge cooling effect that carbs have that's the reason people say they make more power. It's just like how moving fuel injectors further up stream of the intake valves can make more power.
Check the rear end and see if there is a bit of "lead" in the rear on one side. Basically making the rear axle sit at a slight angle. That is part of how the oval guys make these turn naturally. I know when I picked up my Legend the last owner had a ton of lead in the rear. He had adjusted the rear bars all the way and even bolted it back in in single shear just to get the most lead he could.
I was just about to say this. From watching how the car reacts you can see it flicks left amazing, but looks like he is fighting it to get her to go right. I bet it's doglegged in the back
Nothing about how these are designed or built makes a Legend better at turning left. It's all in the suspension setup. These are great road racers and hill climb cars.
I got to admit the Safari GTR is one of my favorite builds you've done in a very long time so simple almost budget-ish compared to your typical builds.
The guy who tuned the carbies is a legend, more of him please. He had so much knowledge and i feel like everyone could learn so much just listening to him
Ive always really liked listening to Jack explain things when hes on the different channels.. reminds me of my pops the way he kind of makes what hes doing exciting..!
Jack is always the dad that shows up, that we didnt know we needed, but we definitely needed, and later are like, yea...we needed. Thanks Jack. Love you my guy
As a house painter with 20+ years of real experience, you done the best thing for your house and health filling them cracks an painting it white. Mold is very bad for you and it starts fast in an environment like that. Looks beautiful and your gonna love it when it's done. Love the content man. Keep up the good job.
I really like your channel. I was a mechanic for forty years and I’m familiar with NASCAR, NHRA and World of Outlaws. Drifting is new to me but I still have that want to learn more. I like watching you build your projects and my favorite is the legend car probably because I know those types of cars. Good luck in Colorado.
Many companies make bent rods for extra clearance. Outpace racing products makes a nice bent rod that you could run on the tie rods and gain a ton of clearance on the shocks.
Adam coming with the fire content and nice work on the safari gtr it came out so sick with the matching bike 👌 and your streetbike powered drift car is insane looks like so much fun and only you would think of drifting it like everything else keep up the great work 👍
I recommend using gear grease when drilling medal this will help to cut easier and mainly the longevity of your bits you can also sharpen your bits and using grease I've had some of the same bits for 7 years and this is drilling big steel I was raised with a family who was born into steel work and this lesson has always been something I've used especially when some bits can cost a good penny.
I'm a motorcycle mechanic and and some bikes still had carburetors well in to the 2000s!!! You would be surprised how many performance bikes still have carburetors!
I've been watching your UA-cam channel for mean years I remember you having the BMX ramp thing in your backyard you are the reason why I won't start drifting
Would love to see the blue reto thing setting a lap time around the compound. May be even 2 laps, a grip lap and a drift lap, see which style of driving is faster in it.
I love that you still wrench on your projects. Keeps it feeling like the OG vlogs and so much respect given how busy you are. Also sick to see you investing in machining tools to fabricate in house...it's the real deal dream shop setup!
The reason the motor shits on its face when it get shot is the reason these cars went to water cooled motors after 2018… These motors are strong cold but die as soon as they get up to temp. You need to either upgrade to the FZ motor or get a real fan kit to keep this motor cool. If it gets hot enough it’ll actually flash boil the oil. It being a 1200 is why it was $4k. A $1250 is $6k+ and a FZ is $12k+.
I really like the retro livery on the safari GTR the whole car came out so sick and it looks like you got the streetbike powered drift car dialed in perfect nice work 👍
I do custom carpentry, there is a product we've started using that would get a great seal on those ceilings and can be finished ultra dull or gloss depending on what you like. We are working on the west coast right now but im based out of Michigan, and its crazy how much mold grows on the coast and so fast! And we havent had any issues with mold growing on the sealed surface. I know the heat/moisture is a bit different in florida though.
Hey lz you probably won’t see this but that is a circle track car that’s why it feels so much more grip to a side because every little thing is bulit to slide the car one way get a new gas tank and the wheels need to be different sizes so like the side it pulls too needs to be like 255 and the side it doesn’t like 260-265 that will help and mount the gas tank more to the side it doesn’t pull to I’ve had one that I tried to do normal time attack that’s what helped me just give it a shot love the vids keep it up❤
A Safari build GTR has never crossed my mind but damn is this one sweet. I’m in the market for a GTR myself and now I’m interested in doing something similar. I live in the Appalachian Mountains so it makes sense to me to go this route
Though throttle bodies don't tend to have slides, there are similar styles of the same concept for throttle bodies out there, particularly for ITB style setups. "Roller-barrel" throttles will work like it in the sense of "full throttle" just being a straight pass-through for air with no blockage. These are usually made in two main types, single roller or dual roller, where the single one has just a hole through it, and the dual has stacked rollers that make up one half of the opening each. Great stuff but expensive since the ones people usually want are made by Cosworth and such. ..but, they sound freaking amazing.
I was tempted to do a write-up on the carbs when you where messing with it earlier but but the nuances in adjustment are to great and the chances of you ever reading it here to slim, Jack did a great job explaining. Well worth learning though even if you are playing with modern EFI most of the time. Unlike FI they are non adaptive so it takes a lot more intricacy to make them work in the wide rev range (1 to 13/14k) motorcycles have. Even if that can be adjusted on the fly with FI it gives you a better understanding of the whole process.
Dude I can’t wait to see this thing in Colorado! Killer build Adam! Gotta love someone who isn’t afraid to “destroy” a GTR and turn it into something truly incredible! Good on you 👌
I love the hood flopping around all over the place on the legends car, just adds to the experience. How would making either the front fogs on the Safari32 yellow? Or like two outside ones yellow or inside on a different switch? Or even possibly some old KC (I think that’s the name) inspire light covers with the LZ or LZMFG logo in it Also I know It’s not needed for the snow, but I’d still love to see a snorkel on it for when you hit some ponds
Probably the best "Not million dollar stupid GTR build ever" It's a shame that I am more invested in your house renovation than this absolute automotive weapon! Happy 24 LZED keep doing whatever you do. Additional shoutout to all of the LZ crew without the crew there is no you. All hail the new and improved Hoonigaint!
Last video, I asked for a cool retro lovery, and you've already delivered 👌 Love watching this Safari build content! One of my favourite builds in a while.
Carbureted v8s can make more power, due mostly to the cooling effect of the atomized fuel mixing with the air as it moves through the intake. Port/ direct injection don’t allow this cooling effect to take place. However proper tuning can make up the difference.
Can't wait for some Colorado GTR Safari fun! Jacks great! Dude can tune about anything, got the legend's drifter dialed. Now Adam's got the suspension pretty much dialed, but that hood wants outta there....
A white or bronze shadow interlock chain would be solid for the bmx bike. This build is definitely different but has become one of a kind 🔥 unit. Glad Sean and Lee got to get some love since they are a big part of the RB sector of LZMFG!
I have been in one of these, it was Heikki Kovalainen`s old Legend kart and the guy was there with us in 2008 when he raced in his hometown with cokarts and legends. It was awesome to hear the engine roar when sitting in one, i was 9 back then. I was lucky to sit in it because my dad knows Heikki´s parents and i was really keen to sit in it
Have you thought about changing where the shock mounts on the control arms of the legend car? That way you can run however much angle you want cause you’re able to move the shock back and possibly add more caster also?????
Its getting snowy. Trails here get sketchy fast but its been a mellow winter. If you want something easy check switzerland trail outside of boulder if your in the area. I live down the road.
Carb to EFI only loses very minimal amounts of peak HP at WOT. The advantages of EFI all across the board are better. Then once you start getting into really complex stuff (at least in the world of drag racing) EFI will make way more power with 100000x more control and feedback. Really, you only saw gains or losses switching between fuel systems back in the early to late 2000s when everyone had an LS with subpar EFI. Switching to a carb on archaic SBF as well usually deemed more HP. Now, if you run a carb it's for ease of install, to keep it nostalgic or because that's what you're used to. In drag racing we still see carb nitrous and blow through setups competing at a very high level but in road racing, I just see EFI being the only good option.
Had a blast as usual visiting the homies! The safari GTR is looking fun! Can't wait to see it in some snow!
FYI, it's the intake charge cooling effect that carbs have that's the reason people say they make more power. It's just like how moving fuel injectors further up stream of the intake valves can make more power.
Check the rear end and see if there is a bit of "lead" in the rear on one side. Basically making the rear axle sit at a slight angle. That is part of how the oval guys make these turn naturally. I know when I picked up my Legend the last owner had a ton of lead in the rear. He had adjusted the rear bars all the way and even bolted it back in in single shear just to get the most lead he could.
Upvote this! Haha
+1
I was just about to say this. From watching how the car reacts you can see it flicks left amazing, but looks like he is fighting it to get her to go right. I bet it's doglegged in the back
Built to only go left and he is fighting it to turn right. There has to be lead or a geometry change that still needs to be made.
Nothing about how these are designed or built makes a Legend better at turning left. It's all in the suspension setup. These are great road racers and hill climb cars.
I got to admit the Safari GTR is one of my favorite builds you've done in a very long time so simple almost budget-ish compared to your typical builds.
I agree 👌🏻
I agree but side note, I wish I had Adam’s budget lol
dont we all my friend@@sinkorswimcreativemedia8889
Your right it’s significantly more simple than most of his builds but something about this is just fun
@@sinkorswimcreativemedia8889I think we all do 😂
The safari GTR is such a great change of pace this build has been one of the best in a while!
It would’ve been a winter build if he still lived up in CT
@@connoisseuroftigolbittshe’s going to be driving it in Colorado
@@Kevhoe nice
You 100% brought the right guy for the motorcycle engine. Jack is a legit master. That poor hood was hanging on for dear life.
Be careful if anyone tries chasing you in the legend they might get distracted by the hood flapping 😂
so distracted they find a wall to park on 😵
Y’all are both savage for those comments haha…
What a sick ref 😂
Dan Stuke would be offended 😂
He will have to put them on the trailer
The guy who tuned the carbies is a legend, more of him please. He had so much knowledge and i feel like everyone could learn so much just listening to him
Ive always really liked listening to Jack explain things when hes on the different channels..
reminds me of my pops the way he kind of makes what hes doing exciting..!
15:29 i have to admit i loved this part how he was saying everything in what it actually does and how that slide works
Adam assembling a bmx bike just hits so right. Takes me back, I can almost hear the old FTGU outro song
Jack is the man, love his channel dude has all the toys!
Whats his channel?
Great collaboration between the 2 of you. Bring Jack around more.
Jack is always the dad that shows up, that we didnt know we needed, but we definitely needed, and later are like, yea...we needed.
Thanks Jack. Love you my guy
Haha thanks I'm always around to help!
Adam the engine in your streetbike drift car is a yamaha 1200cc that came out of 1986 to 1990 yamaha FJ 1200 streetbike 👍
Jack is so knowledgeable. Love Jack
Jack is the man so sick he came up to help you out he's genuinely a good guy
I love Jack. The dude is basically a scientist... 😆
As a house painter with 20+ years of real experience, you done the best thing for your house and health filling them cracks an painting it white. Mold is very bad for you and it starts fast in an environment like that. Looks beautiful and your gonna love it when it's done. Love the content man. Keep up the good job.
Jack was cool and he knows what he is doing for sure!
Turned out rad!! Pleasure working you as always. Thx for the love!
Always nice to see jack. Such a good dude.
Adam plz do more with this guy ! Soo awesome knowledge u both share!
Im so excited to see you rip the GTR off road, it's definitely going to be one of the most unique builds this year.
Thank you Jack for the amazing carb lesson you absolute legend ❤
Enjoy!
The safari build is coming out so sick
It's cool but the color not so much
MUCH LOVE FROM TRINIDAD ADAM been watchin since the backyard bmx days
The OG team is killing the home renovation! Wow
So good, never miss a video
That hood was flapping so much I was waiting for Daniel Stuke to come out of nowhere and call a one more time
Jack's a dude. I actually learned a few new things about carburettors in a couple of minutes listening to Jack just then.
17:19 jack gonna get u fixed up dude knows his stuff love hos videos and intro
Jack is 💪
I really like your channel. I was a mechanic for forty years and I’m familiar with NASCAR, NHRA and World of Outlaws. Drifting is new to me but I still have that want to learn more. I like watching you build your projects and my favorite is the legend car probably because I know those types of cars. Good luck in Colorado.
Probably one of my favorite build recently 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I remember seeing the legend cars race Wednesday nights at the track growing up it’s so cool to see one of these things drifting
The house is looking amazing! I think you could mount the snowboard at a 45 degree angle in the future.
0:29 that jdm off-roader looks crazy insane ❤️🔥
Many companies make bent rods for extra clearance. Outpace racing products makes a nice bent rod that you could run on the tie rods and gain a ton of clearance on the shocks.
Adam coming with the fire content and nice work on the safari gtr it came out so sick with the matching bike 👌 and your streetbike powered drift car is insane looks like so much fun and only you would think of drifting it like everything else keep up the great work 👍
I recommend using gear grease when drilling medal this will help to cut easier and mainly the longevity of your bits you can also sharpen your bits and using grease I've had some of the same bits for 7 years and this is drilling big steel I was raised with a family who was born into steel work and this lesson has always been something I've used especially when some bits can cost a good penny.
Grease is alright, Rocol is what you really want.
I'm a motorcycle mechanic and and some bikes still had carburetors well in to the 2000s!!! You would be surprised how many performance bikes still have carburetors!
The ignite branding on the rooftop gas can was dope touch 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
jack can tune a lawnmower. awesome dude. wish i would've bought my GTR from him
20:40 NEED that 2nd gen C10. best vehicle i've seen on the channel
I've been watching your UA-cam channel for mean years I remember you having the BMX ramp thing in your backyard you are the reason why I won't start drifting
Would love to see the blue reto thing setting a lap time around the compound.
May be even 2 laps, a grip lap and a drift lap, see which style of driving is faster in it.
I love that you still wrench on your projects. Keeps it feeling like the OG vlogs and so much respect given how busy you are. Also sick to see you investing in machining tools to fabricate in house...it's the real deal dream shop setup!
The painted wood looks sick, reminds me of ship lap.
I love the Legend car and have been looking at them for weeks now as a possible auto-x / fun car!
Man you might be creating a whole new scene for drifting with Legend cars..... crazy.
25:39 💯+ jack
Love jack, miss him in Chris’s videos
Adam I’m sure I can speak for all, you and your team are killing it! Can’t wait to see what 2024 brings for all us to enjoy
The reason the motor shits on its face when it get shot is the reason these cars went to water cooled motors after 2018… These motors are strong cold but die as soon as they get up to temp. You need to either upgrade to the FZ motor or get a real fan kit to keep this motor cool. If it gets hot enough it’ll actually flash boil the oil.
It being a 1200 is why it was $4k. A $1250 is $6k+ and a FZ is $12k+.
Jack is a awesome guy, i used to party with him and his brother Milhouse Back in the day.
Keeping bmx attached to the channel makes me so damn happy ❤
Jack is so wholesome. Great to see him around these parts.
Definitely my favorite build on UA-cam atm. Its something different and I love that
i wasnt sure about the whole safari r32 build but now that i see is put togther i really apreciate it.., good work team
I really like the retro livery on the safari GTR the whole car came out so sick and it looks like you got the streetbike powered drift car dialed in perfect nice work 👍
I do custom carpentry, there is a product we've started using that would get a great seal on those ceilings and can be finished ultra dull or gloss depending on what you like. We are working on the west coast right now but im based out of Michigan, and its crazy how much mold grows on the coast and so fast! And we havent had any issues with mold growing on the sealed surface. I know the heat/moisture is a bit different in florida though.
Can't wait to see you build the drift legends into a full send backwards entries !! Keep the build going 🤘
Hey lz you probably won’t see this but that is a circle track car that’s why it feels so much more grip to a side because every little thing is bulit to slide the car one way get a new gas tank and the wheels need to be different sizes so like the side it pulls too needs to be like 255 and the side it doesn’t like 260-265 that will help and mount the gas tank more to the side it doesn’t pull to I’ve had one that I tried to do normal time attack that’s what helped me just give it a shot love the vids keep it up❤
Jack is the real OG!
A Safari build GTR has never crossed my mind but damn is this one sweet. I’m in the market for a GTR myself and now I’m interested in doing something similar. I live in the Appalachian Mountains so it makes sense to me to go this route
Jack is the real dude
🔥🔥Notification squad 🔥🔥
I wasn't sure how i felt with the GTR build but man I'm very inn too it.well done. You realy nailed it.
Though throttle bodies don't tend to have slides, there are similar styles of the same concept for throttle bodies out there, particularly for ITB style setups. "Roller-barrel" throttles will work like it in the sense of "full throttle" just being a straight pass-through for air with no blockage. These are usually made in two main types, single roller or dual roller, where the single one has just a hole through it, and the dual has stacked rollers that make up one half of the opening each. Great stuff but expensive since the ones people usually want are made by Cosworth and such.
..but, they sound freaking amazing.
The engine in the legend car is a Yamaha fj 1200 and they respond well to fcr flat slide carbs
The Legand car got that special Chelsea Denofa hood mod going on
Watched your channel for a long time off and on. Seeing that legend car makes me instantly click.
I was tempted to do a write-up on the carbs when you where messing with it earlier but but the nuances in adjustment are to great and the chances of you ever reading it here to slim, Jack did a great job explaining. Well worth learning though even if you are playing with modern EFI most of the time. Unlike FI they are non adaptive so it takes a lot more intricacy to make them work in the wide rev range (1 to 13/14k) motorcycles have. Even if that can be adjusted on the fly with FI it gives you a better understanding of the whole process.
The gtr needs to be called Baja blast from now on, I stand on that
Dude I can’t wait to see this thing in Colorado! Killer build Adam! Gotta love someone who isn’t afraid to “destroy” a GTR and turn it into something truly incredible! Good on you 👌
Jack is a gem !
I love the hood flopping around all over the place on the legends car, just adds to the experience.
How would making either the front fogs on the Safari32 yellow?
Or like two outside ones yellow or inside on a different switch?
Or even possibly some old KC (I think that’s the name) inspire light covers with the LZ or LZMFG logo in it
Also I know It’s not needed for the snow, but I’d still love to see a snorkel on it for when you hit some ponds
I love when you, Jimmy O and Grant Anderson do collab videos #myfavoriteUA-camrs 💯🔧🚗🏁®️
Probably the best "Not million dollar stupid GTR build ever" It's a shame that I am more invested in your house renovation than this absolute automotive weapon! Happy 24 LZED keep doing whatever you do. Additional shoutout to all of the LZ crew without the crew there is no you. All hail the new and improved Hoonigaint!
Last video, I asked for a cool retro lovery, and you've already delivered 👌 Love watching this Safari build content! One of my favourite builds in a while.
Carbureted v8s can make more power, due mostly to the cooling effect of the atomized fuel mixing with the air as it moves through the intake. Port/ direct injection don’t allow this cooling effect to take place. However proper tuning can make up the difference.
Can't wait for some Colorado GTR Safari fun! Jacks great! Dude can tune about anything, got the legend's drifter dialed. Now Adam's got the suspension pretty much dialed, but that hood wants outta there....
that little drift missle is sick!! bloody fast too!
Digging the GTR Safari build. As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇
Jack Cecil 👍
A white or bronze shadow interlock chain would be solid for the bmx bike. This build is definitely different but has become one of a kind 🔥 unit. Glad Sean and Lee got to get some love since they are a big part of the RB sector of LZMFG!
GD Jack with the 100mph
Looooove the safari build! Can't wait for more content with that, like using it in a desert or on a mountain or wherever
I have been in one of these, it was Heikki Kovalainen`s old Legend kart and the guy was there with us in 2008 when he raced in his hometown with cokarts and legends. It was awesome to hear the engine roar when sitting in one, i was 9 back then. I was lucky to sit in it because my dad knows Heikki´s parents and i was really keen to sit in it
The bike engine is probably a Yamaha FJ 1200. Cause it's air cooled. In Denmark we run these cars in races. They are called formel Ford or Legend cars
This might be my favorite car you own! Perfect tly done.
eating this content up atm! Loving both these builds from Scotland!
Jack Cecil haven’t seen that guy in a minute 👍an this car is hilarious she rips purdy good 👌
One of the best builds yet !!
Love the white shiplap look for the ceiling
the snowboard would have fit if you had it on it's side, that way it would also show off the graphic on the bottom
Jack is the boy!
Have you thought about changing where the shock mounts on the control arms of the legend car? That way you can run however much angle you want cause you’re able to move the shock back and possibly add more caster also?????
The streetbike car is by far my favourite on the channel super funky.
Its getting snowy. Trails here get sketchy fast but its been a mellow winter. If you want something easy check switzerland trail outside of boulder if your in the area. I live down the road.
Carb to EFI only loses very minimal amounts of peak HP at WOT. The advantages of EFI all across the board are better. Then once you start getting into really complex stuff (at least in the world of drag racing) EFI will make way more power with 100000x more control and feedback. Really, you only saw gains or losses switching between fuel systems back in the early to late 2000s when everyone had an LS with subpar EFI. Switching to a carb on archaic SBF as well usually deemed more HP. Now, if you run a carb it's for ease of install, to keep it nostalgic or because that's what you're used to. In drag racing we still see carb nitrous and blow through setups competing at a very high level but in road racing, I just see EFI being the only good option.
Check your spring rates. They are more than likely all different.