@Dr. Surreal I didn't think I did anything special. I originally set everything up to record to the SD card, but when the playback didn't work I ejected the SD card and switched them off of edge recording. Bingo bango bongo it worked.
Edge "recording" is USELESS for me! 99% of the time it shows you the first 10sec and then disconnects! That's pretty worthless for ANYONE! I've tried different SD cards and different sizes with NO success with the Edge option!
Yes, it works when you physically remove the micro SD card, Thanks for the info @The Hook Up ...if you just toggle OFF local recording on the camera's settings or turn it off on the enrolled cameras in the Alarm Pro's settings, then the camera will not work or unavailable, so it is a bug that Ring needs to address. Also, the Amcrest still has the freezing issue in the footage even with cloud recording.
I was not big on using this until I found that ring now allows human motion detection to be an event within Alexa. However using the ring connected to my Lorex onvif cameras has been painful at best. I have the cameras set to 1080P H.264 and the live view is not that live. Everything is connected to a POE so wireless should not be an issue here. Ring will connect then freeze. It will sometimes jump 10-20 seconds almost like it cannot handle the video streaming. Human events captured is just as painful. It will show 2-3 seconds of the recording then freeze. I really want this to work as Lorex does not support triggered events in Alexa but so far not too reliable for me. Thanks for the video.
I’ve had a Ring Security System (2nd gen) for a year and don’t really like the security cameras. The alarm system has worked perfect and reliably, but the cameras have the worst video quality (spotlight cam) and disconnect once a month from the ring chime pro range extender they are connected to. That means I have to get up on a ladder and press the button to reset the camera once a month to connect it to the range extender, which needs several attempts to get connected. Also the doorbell (wired) works ok, but the image quality is also terrible. Overall, they need better video quality and shouldn’t require us to press a button on the security cameras to reconnect them, because usually security cameras are placed in hard to reach areas.
I too was having issues with the Ring Chime Pro where WiFi signal was getting REALLY low after 3weeks and I would just unplug and restart the Chime Pro. I never had to "reset" any cameras though I just cut the power to the Chime Pro and restarted it. I have (2) cameras on the Chime Pro as they are far away from the my router and I if I remember I only had to "reset" one camera just once in over 2years of usage. Lately I do not seem do be having this issue anymore as maybe this has been fixed? You can't review when a "device" upgrades it's bios/firmware as the app. only tells you that you are up to date.
All the same issues using amcrest cameras with my ring pro. Video always freezes, won’t do cloud recording, and once the sd card is full it’s not overwriting old clips. I talked to ring a few weeks back and they stated they weren’t aware of these issues.
ring needs to add the option to insert micro sd cards for 24/7 recording , lower app subscriptions. better app . more AI labels ; pet , person , vehicles , and package like wyze.
Well, with the Ring Pro hub offers recording to an SD card inserted into the Hub itself with your cameras. Problem is is does NOT work reliably at this point. I'm hoping they resolve this issue SOON!
Ring should be supporting onvif on their cameras instead, so people won't get locked in the subscription based system that basically makes the hardware useless if you decide to stop that subscription.
Right? I have a 16 channel tri-brid DVR that will record a IP cam from another country. But yet I cant record before it goes to Ring. This is Info I pay to send out to ring, Mind you.. so they can miss the important stuff like to scooters getting stolen on separate occasions. Both time they were within 5-6 feet of the camera . But yet manage to record video of a mouse running across side walk?? or cars going down the street 10 feet further than the bikes were. I would still pay to have the doorbell function that the (Amazon drivers ) can't even learn how to ring the bell anyway. As well as the notification side of it. but I want to save them storage space and store the constant footage locally on my IP DVR. What is sad is the Geenie doorbell does everything WITHOUT a fee at all. Not local storage but. (Of course there is a premium subscription) It is just choppy though.
Are you able to get snapshots with this? I have the Amcrest camera currently working with the Ring app, but if I go to the timeline, I only see motion events or when I clicked on Live View. I have motion detection enabled and snapshots enabled for once every 1 minute. I'm not sure if it is something that I have to setup on the Amcrest side since it is not triggered as a motion event to Ring.
I have my ring pro set up with local storage but it is inconsistent with retaining data. Sometimes the ring pro will capture footage but then the ring pro will say it cannot process footage and all the locally captured footage becomes corrupt. It's a new 256G card.
thank you for your review. This system looks to still be in Alpha or Beta release because it has so many problems it should never have been released as a solution. It really shows the lack of QA Ring did for this system. Very disappointing. I'll stick with Blue Iris...
No, you don’t. But it have at least a recording to the micro SD card as a backup…actually as a main recording. The Ring recording is not that great in video quality.
You had any issue with motion? I setup 2 Honeywell Cameras and Live view works perfectly, but for some reason I can't seem to get motion to record at all.
NOT have good luck with the Ring Edge recording! 99% of the time it only shows you 10sec of video and "disconnects"! I only have Ring indoor cams pointed outside behind the glass and one doorbell 3+ cam and the issue was occurring on ALL cams! I have switched back to the cloud for events as the Edge feature SUCKS for me. I like the fact that Ring is "opening" up their options and should only improve in the future. The thing that concerns me the MOST is the new "MATTER" standard that almost ALL vendors will be switching over to soon. I think this is really going to cause MAJOR problems with security systems and whatever home automation setup you may be using. I'm hoping that most of my current devices will NOT have to be replaced due to this "switch". Ring has been really silent on this issue as well as other vendors!
Yes, it is not reliable at this time. Cloud recording is still better. We will see how these companies will adjust when the Matter standard comes around.
I have had it with ring right now, this isn’t the first time that the alarm has been offline while I’m away even though I pay for the protect pro, do you have any suggestions or recommendations in other alarm systems?
I haven't really reviewed any other alarm systems aside from Ring but that is weird that you have offline issues because technically, it shouldn't be offline because it also have a backup internet if you have the protect pro. Call them and see if they can sort out your issue. You might have a bad unit.
yeah, I would never do this haha. The reason for using RTSP and Onvif cameras is so only you have access to the cameras. Why would anyone want to add their cameras to the Ring app? I stopped using Ring a long time ago and now all my cameras are RTSP supported so only I have access to them. Privacy people, privacy!
Lifehackster, i have a couple of urgent questions about the EZVIZ C6W that I'm hoping you can please answer ASAP. Since you reviewed it, do you have problems with that cam going offline frequently and is the updated app buggy or laggy?
I might have to invest in a alarm pro to link my amcrest camera now, Thank you!
Cool, but I like using my rpi 4 with HomeBridge’s camera ui plug-in
Great Video!
This is why I love the way how Ring makes everything so easy in the app. Is Motion Warning comparable with the other cams?
I was able to get my ONVIF cameras working with cloud recording. I agree edge recording is currently unreliable.
Care to share how you did it? That will help a lot of people.
@Dr. Surreal I didn't think I did anything special. I originally set everything up to record to the SD card, but when the playback didn't work I ejected the SD card and switched them off of edge recording. Bingo bango bongo it worked.
Edge "recording" is USELESS for me! 99% of the time it shows you the first 10sec and then disconnects! That's pretty worthless for ANYONE! I've tried different SD cards and different sizes with NO success with the Edge option!
Yes, it works when you physically remove the micro SD card, Thanks for the info @The Hook Up ...if you just toggle OFF local recording on the camera's settings or turn it off on the enrolled cameras in the Alarm Pro's settings, then the camera will not work or unavailable, so it is a bug that Ring needs to address. Also, the Amcrest still has the freezing issue in the footage even with cloud recording.
I was not big on using this until I found that ring now allows human motion detection to be an event within Alexa. However using the ring connected to my Lorex onvif cameras has been painful at best. I have the cameras set to 1080P H.264 and the live view is not that live. Everything is connected to a POE so wireless should not be an issue here. Ring will connect then freeze. It will sometimes jump 10-20 seconds almost like it cannot handle the video streaming. Human events captured is just as painful. It will show 2-3 seconds of the recording then freeze. I really want this to work as Lorex does not support triggered events in Alexa but so far not too reliable for me. Thanks for the video.
Any updates to how the Ring Edge recording? I do alot of Ring installs but never mess with the Edge option. Thanks for the video!
I’ve had a Ring Security System (2nd gen) for a year and don’t really like the security cameras. The alarm system has worked perfect and reliably, but the cameras have the worst video quality (spotlight cam) and disconnect once a month from the ring chime pro range extender they are connected to. That means I have to get up on a ladder and press the button to reset the camera once a month to connect it to the range extender, which needs several attempts to get connected. Also the doorbell (wired) works ok, but the image quality is also terrible. Overall, they need better video quality and shouldn’t require us to press a button on the security cameras to reconnect them, because usually security cameras are placed in hard to reach areas.
I too was having issues with the Ring Chime Pro where WiFi signal was getting REALLY low after 3weeks and I would just unplug and restart the Chime Pro. I never had to "reset" any cameras though I just cut the power to the Chime Pro and restarted it. I have (2) cameras on the Chime Pro as they are far away from the my router and I if I remember I only had to "reset" one camera just once in over 2years of usage. Lately I do not seem do be having this issue anymore as maybe this has been fixed? You can't review when a "device" upgrades it's bios/firmware as the app. only tells you that you are up to date.
The quality feels like it used to be great but my dad and I noticed it seems lower now vs 3-5 years ago.
Curious, would I be able to control PTZ on an onvif camera connected to Ring Alarm?
All the same issues using amcrest cameras with my ring pro. Video always freezes, won’t do cloud recording, and once the sd card is full it’s not overwriting old clips. I talked to ring a few weeks back and they stated they weren’t aware of these issues.
Their Edge micro SD card recording is not reliable yet..hopefully they fix it or let the customer use it for back up recording and cloud as primary.
ring needs to add the option to insert micro sd cards for 24/7 recording , lower app subscriptions. better app . more AI labels ; pet , person , vehicles , and package like wyze.
and LIVE grid view of all cameras
Well, with the Ring Pro hub offers recording to an SD card inserted into the Hub itself with your cameras. Problem is is does NOT work reliably at this point. I'm hoping they resolve this issue SOON!
the always release the update or product before it's fully ready just to get it out there. with any third party integration there will be more bugs.
First again?
Love your videos! It helps me what smart devices I should get!
Thank you.
It’s ridiculous that you need to have a ring alarm pro! You should not need to have anything!
Have you find any improvement since you made this video?
Did those cameras Record 24/7? If so do you see that on the Ring app? Maybe this means one step closer to 24/7 recording
Not with the Ring app. Just motion events. You can still set the onvif cameras to record 24/7 to their own app/setup.
Ring should be supporting onvif on their cameras instead, so people won't get locked in the subscription based system that basically makes the hardware useless if you decide to stop that subscription.
Right? I have a 16 channel tri-brid DVR that will record a IP cam from another country. But yet I cant record before it goes to Ring. This is Info I pay to send out to ring, Mind you.. so they can miss the important stuff like to scooters getting stolen on separate occasions. Both time they were within 5-6 feet of the camera . But yet manage to record video of a mouse running across side walk?? or cars going down the street 10 feet further than the bikes were.
I would still pay to have the doorbell function that the (Amazon drivers ) can't even learn how to ring the bell anyway. As well as the notification side of it. but I want to save them storage space and store the constant footage locally on my IP DVR.
What is sad is the Geenie doorbell does everything WITHOUT a fee at all. Not local storage but. (Of course there is a premium subscription) It is just choppy though.
You don't need a subscription lol. Get the alarm and put in a micro sd. Funny people complain about a cheap ring plan.
Are you able to get snapshots with this? I have the Amcrest camera currently working with the Ring app, but if I go to the timeline, I only see motion events or when I clicked on Live View. I have motion detection enabled and snapshots enabled for once every 1 minute. I'm not sure if it is something that I have to setup on the Amcrest side since it is not triggered as a motion event to Ring.
Will ring enable their doorbell/ cameras onvif to connect them to NVR or blue iris?
I have my ring pro set up with local storage but it is inconsistent with retaining data. Sometimes the ring pro will capture footage but then the ring pro will say it cannot process footage and all the locally captured footage becomes corrupt. It's a new 256G card.
Hey! Thank you for your videos! Do you plan to do a review on the Nest Cam Indoor Wired (2nd generation)? Thanks!
Thank you for the info. Was very helpful. But $200 a year fee for pro is a bit much..
I wish to have this options on my ring door bell app.
This video is now two years old. Have any of the issues you identified with using ONVIF cameras on Ring Pro been resolved?
thank you for your review. This system looks to still be in Alpha or Beta release because it has so many problems it should never have been released as a solution. It really shows the lack of QA Ring did for this system. Very disappointing. I'll stick with Blue Iris...
I’m having trouble connecting my RLC-811a’s I’ve tried everything even calling ring but they can’t figure it out either. Any suggestions?
do I need the nvr box to use the reolink RLC-811A or any other ONVIF camera with ring? (if I have a the ring pro sub). thanks!
No, you don’t. But it have at least a recording to the micro SD card as a backup…actually as a main recording. The Ring recording is not that great in video quality.
Have you been able to get reolink to work with Ring ?
My login says it’s incorrect and I’m on the alarm pro network and so I my camera. I have an Imou looc.
Make sure you can log in to the imou looc.
@@LifeHackster I can login to imou.
You had any issue with motion? I setup 2 Honeywell Cameras and Live view works perfectly, but for some reason I can't seem to get motion to record at all.
Are you able to trigger reliable recordings on ONVIF cameras utilizing external motion sensors from select ring smart lighting devices?
Can you save the video to synology ?
Thank you.
You're welcome!
NOT have good luck with the Ring Edge recording! 99% of the time it only shows you 10sec of video and "disconnects"! I only have Ring indoor cams pointed outside behind the glass and one doorbell 3+ cam and the issue was occurring on ALL cams! I have switched back to the cloud for events as the Edge feature SUCKS for me. I like the fact that Ring is "opening" up their options and should only improve in the future. The thing that concerns me the MOST is the new "MATTER" standard that almost ALL vendors will be switching over to soon. I think this is really going to cause MAJOR problems with security systems and whatever home automation setup you may be using. I'm hoping that most of my current devices will NOT have to be replaced due to this "switch". Ring has been really silent on this issue as well as other vendors!
Yes, it is not reliable at this time. Cloud recording is still better. We will see how these companies will adjust when the Matter standard comes around.
Are there any other companies with a monitoring service that can integrate ONVIF cameras?
I tried to add my cameras and ring app keeps trying to hve me purchase their ring pro.
I have had it with ring right now, this isn’t the first time that the alarm has been offline while I’m away even though I pay for the protect pro, do you have any suggestions or recommendations in other alarm systems?
I haven't really reviewed any other alarm systems aside from Ring but that is weird that you have offline issues because technically, it shouldn't be offline because it also have a backup internet if you have the protect pro. Call them and see if they can sort out your issue. You might have a bad unit.
@@LifeHackster thanks!
Nice video but it shows why I'll never install ring cameras. Subscription and cloud based camera systems are not the way to go.
to use this, you first need to spend $250 on ring alarm pro for an unknown reason
i wanted to try it with a swann camera, but then it told me i had to have ring alarm pro. That's a deal breaker.
I think it is more because of the router functionality of the pro.
why do you have to have ring alarm pro thats not necessary
I think it is because of the router capability of the Pro.
@@LifeHackster ONVIF cameras can stream directly to Ring's servers on the internet, no need for another piece of hardware on your local network.
How Ring can work with two companies on US sanction list? So should Ring be sanctioned too? It violates the US law.
Ring isn't working with them, ONVIF is an open standard.
As per Oliver White..it is an open standard. It should work with any camera in the sanction list or not as long as it is ONVIF compatible.
Why do you need a Ring Alarm Pro?
I think because of the router capability and also the local recording.
Are there rich notifications?
Ring Protect Pro required. Ah... derp.
Local backup required for this to be useful.
Yes.
yeah, I would never do this haha. The reason for using RTSP and Onvif cameras is so only you have access to the cameras. Why would anyone want to add their cameras to the Ring app?
I stopped using Ring a long time ago and now all my cameras are RTSP supported so only I have access to them. Privacy people, privacy!
Any product that works better with the cloud compared to locally with no obvious reason is a fail in my book. Local recording for life!
Lifehackster, i have a couple of urgent questions about the EZVIZ C6W that I'm hoping you can please answer ASAP. Since you reviewed it, do you have
problems with that cam going offline frequently and is the updated app buggy or laggy?
I am not using it currently but I was using it for a couple of months after I reviewed it and I haven't had any offline issues.
Thank you!