My fiesta was unsafe to drive for 4 months
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2022
- Big thanks to H sport performance and RD motorworx for helping me solve my broken car.
no joke this nearly made me quit cars as i spent 4 months and couldnt fix the issue on my own
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Fiesta st 180 list mods so far ;
scorpion sport cat
Itg air filter
R sport crossover
Rsport baffle sump kit
milltek non res exhaust
GFB DV
Meisterr clubrace coilovers
braided brake lines
coolerworx short shifter
ebc rpx front pads as of 18/07/2020
ebc bluestuff rear pads
EBC 300mm front bbk
Turbo technics s280 21/03/21
MSD stage 3 mapped
Collins performance RMM
Cusco rs 1.5 way differential as of 17/04/21
Airtec radiator
Airtec oil cooler
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Props to H-Sport for the hard work, they obviously care about their customers to make sure the customer goes home happy, top job lads.
Steve we all love videos where emotions, anger, disappointments are shown . Brilliant video as usual, I felt emotional myself..
Thanks Mark. It's been an annoying few month's and the relief now is huge.
Maybe qet quaife to inspect the old box and diff to see what was the cause of the issue.
It would be a great conclusion to this issue
That sense of relief when you finally fix a problem that’s been annoying you for so long can’t be matched. I know the feeling of that dreaded stress it’s not nice at all, but at least it’s fixed 👍🏻
Great stuff, H Sport guys have done you proud, fantastic effort.
Great video Steve, really felt your pain and eventual joy throughout this one. And those lads who helped you are awesome!
well done for sticking at it Steve (and the team) - at least you know the source of the problem. Thank you for sharing it with us all
Another great video . Nothing worse than trying to figure out what's wrong with a car and you keep drawing a blank . You always show the good and the bad , and that is why your videos are the best .
Great video Steve, awesome work by H Sport 👍
Great vid Steve keep them coming .!👍
Nicely done Steve - glad it’s sorted 👍
It's fixed Steve 💪🏻 top effort to everyone.
Happy for you. Such a nice feeling. Well done all. 👍
Hi Steve., great to see a new video, I really enjoyed watching it 😊.
So happy 4 U. What a relief. 👍👍👍
What a bunch of lads they are
I'm glad u got it fixed.... 👍
Hi sorry to hear of all your probs hope is all good now nice to have you back.👍👍👍☕️☕️☕️
Hat's off to the boy's that's dedication for ya 👏
Legends them lads! Great vid as usual and glad its sorted mate!
Yey happy Steve, been watching your videos for a while now and have just bought an 2014 st2 🥰
Cant fault h-sport they genuinely care about the cars and customers, they have done everything to mt car from Stage 1 to stage 3 and I really can't fault them!
Loving the videos Steve! Keep up the great work, lovely to see a fellow Welsh person on UA-cam being successful!
Great lads there down there
What a journey, more videos, excellent thanks
Great video
well done guy's and i'll look out for you at ford fair
I was positive there was something not right in the box. Glad it was fixed in the end with a replacement Gearbox.
Well dun lads good bunch of boys there 👏
The guys are great especially being so young as they don't mind getting stuck in.
Be careful with the thermostat, I had an issue with the first one I fitted. The wax leaked out and got stuck in the closed position so the engine would overheat on my commute.
@Spark Plug Steve hey loving the vids.. I have an st180.. have developed an issue under load where if I push hard the car will hesitate and or backfire then she's off again when I come off the power a bit ??? So many threads and lots of different apparent solutions.. sound like anything you've come across.. oh and stage 1 big intercooler induction kit and catback.
Glad you got to ford fair, was me that shouted hi to you yesterday when you came out your track session😂. Was good seeing you on track aswell. Usually just watch you smoke people on track on youtube 😂.
Haha thanks very much.
I suggest the source of your problem is whatever causing the Heat build up in that diff and the ring gear to bind!!
Perhaps when you're bouncing over the kerbs it's causing the diff to overheat!
Have you thought about changing to a plated diff like a Gripper. It'll be more suited to track work!!
Glad to see the smiles back. Enjoy Ford Fair!!
Great job finding the issue and sticking with it, the heat line on that diff doesn't look right. Racecar parts don't have the same durability. You've maxed out this little Fiesta, maybe time to sell.
Glad you sorted the problem mate. I can imagine how frustrating all this must have been. Have you installed the lsd in the new gearbox? Maybe the diff puts a huge strain on the gearbox? I had a friend with the same problem and the problem after he installed the quaife diff. He never found the problem. Glad you did.
Nice one
LMFAO glad you fixed it !! I got same car but white and I been through similar nightmare trying to fix an engine problem, i narrowed it down to injectors, CAT or the low range fuel sensor.. can only hope it's not the CAT.. im hoping it's the fuel sensor.. 😵💫
Great video 👌
Just needs a horn upgrade 👍
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Atleast it's fixed now .
I also see some discoloration in the other side of the diff. Not as much by any means, but enough to take note.
That beard seems to have got a lot more grey buddy!
Hate it when you cant get to the bottom of a issue, its a nightmare. Great when its sorted though!
Haha your not wrong at all. It was ginger a few month's back.
Glad you got everything sorted out! I'm getting incredibly frustrated with my S280 setup. Its dropping boost to the tune of 4-5psi at over 5k rpms no matter how much boost I ask of it (even happens just running on the waste gate spring).
I have pressure tested the entire high pressure side of the intake and am 100% certain there are no leaks around any of the worm clamps, checked all of the vacuum lines, brand new 14psi turbosmart waste gate which I re-adjusted to correct spec (3.5 turns), brand new boost solenoid, new spark plugs gapped to .27, cleaned the MAF sensor, and have hard pipes so nothing is collapsing.
Only other two things I can think of, is the turbo itself is hurt, but it only has 3k miles on it at this point. Or, the intake manifold gasket is leaking like a civ.
If you have any other suggestions I'd greatly appreciate your insight. Thanks as always!
Yeh problems like that can be a headache. I dont really have an answer unfortunately but I hope you find the fix
Have you had somebody check the mapping? I had an issue with the power seems to die off after 5k rpm. It was intermittent maybe every other Pull. It was a sensor flagging over the variable and dialing back boost. Mapping amended and no more issue. As you have checked all the mechanical stuff may be worth that being checked
Glad it's fixed. Wonder what's happened to your diff to cause that?
I had a nightmare with my gearbox also,and it had only just been replaced just before I bought it,
In the end it took me less than an hour to remove it.
I never launched it,or smashed the gears
Broken ring gears,worn synchro,diff bearings,that was enough for me,
I sold the car,was a ticking time bomb,like yours running just over 330bhp.
interesting.......what make of diff???.......is it best to stick with standard box???........
All I can think of is if there's not enough gear box oil or it's not covering the diff properly and it's burnt the clutches out and causing the diff to not work as it should. I don't know how the clutches are meant to look originally. This is a complete guess by the way. The more suggestions the more likely we will come to a conclusion.
Happy days! Glad you got the issue solved in the end. Have you considered a Helical LSD? Far less maintenance required and still better than an OEM Open Diff?
Thanks and yes I have. I'm put of by helical as I want happy with one in my last track car but its definatly an easier life
@@Sparkplugsteve Yeah much easier 👍 At least you’re all good for Ford Fair now mate have a good one! Would love to make it myself but a little thing called work gets in the way 😳
Great videos came across you when looking for a gearbox info vid, ended up watching a few of your vids lol. DOnt like either of the diffs you had, used them myself in various cars, always go back to a quaife, or gripper diff, there both piles of shit, just a shame you had to go through all this to find out :*( new sub.
Thanks. I'm now on a gripper 🙂
Glad to see them axle stands in use. Didn't even sling a wheel under it 🤦🏻♂️ ⚰️🪦 glad you got it sorted
They are top boys, know what they are doing, always safety first, know from experience 💪🏻
With thermostat looking at it won’t the spring rating dictate the opening temp
Is this still fitted with the quaife differential or was that one of the others
Do we think it might a an ESC problem, we know the traction control on these cars is not fully turned off, and that ECS system is responsible for controlling the traction control which controls the braking of the out side wheel when going around bends, if that is faulty it might be kicking in which might course the car to pull left or right?
That's what my money would be on., more specifically the TV system.
I know I could be very wrong. But is the torque vectoring kicking in. The idea of it as you know it to act like a diff. I wonder if it's kicking in and braking the one side as the diff is trying to work at the same time. It maybe causing the heat issue on the diff as its working harder. I may be totally wrong, just an idea.
I don't think so as its a new issue that wasn't there for a Yr
Getters mate that’s my life right there..everything fucks at the one time..would have changed that gearbox over right away
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Looks like it’s not been running true and had a angle and like said bearing has been turning off angle and over loading till eventually overheated and started picking up the swarf
The gearbox in these cars don't have good lubrication control under hard cornering with power applied. A clutch plate diff will require alot of cooling under hard use because of the friction generated heat. If localized lack of lubricant flow exists at the bearing or its oil starved altogether, heat will be generated very quickly and will burn up the inner race fast. The inner race doesn't have as much lubrication or heat sinking as the outer race, which sits in the case and receives alot more cooling. The inner bearing race on the ring gear side would be blue if there was enough heat created to discolor the diff, so i believe the heat in your situation came from the diff itself, not from the bearing. The only way to know is inspect the bearing that came off the ring gear side. Because the gearbox doesn't have any means of oil filtration, it relies on the magnet to pick up wear metal and isn't very effective with higher viscosity fluids. The other issue is insufficient fluid capacity. If I were to use this car on a track, I would install a temp gauge into the gearbox and monitor it closely. I'd also install an external circulation pump to cool and filter the fluid. I also wouldn't run a clutch plate style diff, only a mechanical locking diff. While they're not as smooth as a clutch plate diff, they generate less heat, wear materials and last longer. Quality control is a big issue on most of these locking diffs. My Quaiffe diff had .003" runout after bearing install, so I had to machine it flat before running it. You would think they catch that sort of thing before they let it go out the door. Its disappointing IMO for how much money they charge. Goes to show you how important it is to double check everything. It is the only diff Id run as Ford fits this from the factory on some of their cars.
Thanks for the information. Turns out I was very much wrong on a lot of things in this vide and the diff was never the issue. I found out a while later but a may make a new video soon explaining it all
Have you inadvertently swapped the LSD ramp angles over drive to overrun.? This would cause the lane change issue? Think the heat mark on the diff block is a red herring and not a cause of heat transfer.
H sport did an engine harness change for me recently after diagnosing the fault a week before
Great vid, hope you sort it
I fitted it as it was supplied. I never opened it until it broke
Wavetrack is the way
This is the second diff you’ve had issues now isn’t it ? Do you think there is something fundamental that’s causing stress to the diff ?
Yes and yes. I'm the fundamental causing stress to the diff🤣
Kaaz are well known for breaking so that one was inevitable but this one wasn't expected at all
They need a Ramp
Good thinking! Great video again. I bought a shortshifter from puma for my focus 1.6 ecoboost. It has the same engine. I should fit. Im a little scary to install it because i think its maybe too weak and breaks? Can you help me? I bought the shortshifter with your sale code btw thnx! Had to pay import to the Netherlands though :-( cause of the brexit...
What's the discount code? I need to order a short shifter too.
For the value of this car, has it been worth all the hassle?
That's an interesting question. some days I'd answer yes and some days no.
Within seconds of watching I thought, the diff's fucked. My past experience with classic Mini's and too much wheel spinning leading to broken diff planet gears causing the car to pull to the right before completely letting go and punching a hole in the diff housing, oil everywhere. Anyway am I missing something, why on earth did you not completely strip and inspect your diff when removed?? 🤦♂
I am sure your problem is the diff and when you do strip it completely it will be obvious why it's fucked.
Diff was out 3 weeks ago and serviced and nothing visually wrong it. I showed pictures and explained that in the first section of the video?
@@Sparkplugsteve When you showed the heat ring mark it appeared you had not stripped it completely.
I came to the same conclusion after Steve said that he had checked the bushes and that it only happened under acceleration. I think subconsciously Steve was eliminating the diff because nobody likes to think they have wasted money on an upgrade that turns out to be poor quality. Personally I have never heard of kaaz, I was under the impression that quaife were the gearbox specialists for upgrades. I am sure there will be a reason for his choice of manufacturer though.
Ford's are notorious for problems budd, get a golf r u won't regret 👍
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I don't disagree with you 🤣
Big price diff between the Golf R and Fiesta ST. Not a fair comparison.
@@1krista1969 - True, though to be fair to VAG, with the R they did manage to make a car that's about 50% as reliable as the ST for about twice as much money. I mean, yeah, it'll cost as much to maintain the R in the first year of ownership than it'll cost you for 10 years of rolling in the ST, but still, this is *German Engineering* we're talking about here. This represents serious progress for VAG.
diff housing out of shape
Its possible
Distorted friction plates and / or surfaces will cause uneven preload under acceleration and possibly make the car pull. Clutch plate diffs in a fwd car is asking for trouble and reliability problems. The wear metal has to go somewhere, even if the magnet is doing its job. The other issue is the viscosity spread needed to keep gear and bearing wear in check doesn't support clutch friction plate linearity characteristics. IOW the lubrication requirements are different for both systems, so a compromise in lubricant type must be made which causes reliability issues.
@@1krista1969 gripper plated diffs allow you to run on the specific oil for tue gearbox. But i agree reliability issues are worse then a helical lsd
buy a mk2 rs focus, them fiesta are not built well!!
Mk2 rs cost more than I payed for my house 🤣