Shoei NXR2 vs Shoei NXR | First look at the new ECE22.06 helmet
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- The new Shoei NXR2 (known as the RF-1400 in the States) is the first of the Japanese company's ECE22.06 helmets, putting it among the safest you can buy. We take a first look at this sports-road lid...
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Thanks John, comprehensive as usual - love the out-takes at the end.
Thanks! And that's after I'd made myself a script!
Cracking video ... I've just got meself an NXR2 recently, my first Shoei lid. Really impressed with it, straight out of the box it feels like it was custom made to fit my head - by far the most comfortable helmet I've owned. Over the last 25 years I've had lids from Frank Thomas, Caberg, Airoh, Shark (2) and AGV (3). The NXR2 is a nicer lid than the AGV K6 and Shark Spartan RS (I've spent time with both of those so far this year) .... it's not perfect ... the visor ratchet feels unrefined compared to the Spartan RS and an internal sun visor would be very handy (but would also make the outer shell bigger which is a negative) .... but those are forgiven due to the awesome overall quality, finish, comfort and fit. Doubt I'll ever bother with another brand now ... my Shoei just feels like home when I put it on 🤷♂
I like my old NXR, is my trackday helmet, so it is interesting to see they have updated it. I'm less keen on the central tab for the visor though as I fit chin mounted cameras, not an issue on track, and am sure not an issue for 99% of riders, but for me it is a deal breaker sadly.
I've been using a chinmounts mount on my 1400 here in the states and it works really well if you have a gopro. Though there's not much room, there is enough for the helmet-specific plastic cube to fit onto the helmet for the mount. Neither the visor tab nor the chin vent really get in the way from using the visor on the road, from what I've experienced at least.
@@brandonjandu9090 what mount do you use for this helmet exactly? Thanks
@@FuelingWit So the website I got it from called chinmounts. They advertise on social media a bunch and I gave them a shot. It worked really well for a good while but the adhesive for it got pretty weak. But yeah they're pretty sleek and the 3D printed mounts are helmet specific so it's always a perfect fit. Honestly I enjoyed using it so much I'll pry just buy another one.
Sorry for the late response btw haha
@@FuelingWit I got a 3D printed mount for mine!
I’m kind of lost with all these different Shoei helmets. I just bought a Shoei GT Air2, and there doesn’t seem much difference when you compare them in the looks department. The great thing I love about the GT Air 2 is the ratchet buckle as opposed to the D rings. The drop down sun visor is great as well, and on my Z900RS you naturally have your head raised anyway.
The safest shape for a helmet will dictate its looks to some extent, but the GT Air 2 is more of a sport-touring lid, especially with the drop-down shield and ratchet buckle. Cheers, John
This is a great video - I can't remember when I last heard this much information about crash helmets... probably when I was reading Ride magazine back in the day 😊 Thanks John!
Cheers! I wonder if I was on there when you used to get it?! All the best, John
@@bennettsbikesocial Yes in fact you likely wrote the last consumer reviews I read in print lol
Mostly an exercise in selling more visors … you could share X-Spirit visors with your NXR, and vice-versa; not with the NXR 2, though … you need a different set of visors for each. Any other differences are negligible, and most riders I know - myself included - think the original looks better.
Dear John,
It is me again ;-) Thank you for another great review.
Finally Shoei realise that visor opener should be in the center for both hand use!!!
Keep on your great job
Yours
Ami
Looks like the new visor mechanism also allows for a more eccentric motion for the visor as it opens and closes. Just noticed it off your video. And looking at them side by side, it seems the mechanism is now lower down the helmet. Perhaps this is for the same reason Arai made the Variable Axis System, to allow for better protection to the side of the head.
Weight?
Best explanation of NXR2 to date
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Nice to see another ECE22.06 helmet. Would/will any of the older helmets pass the standard do you think John? And if they do will they automatically gain the accreditation?
And another quick question for anyone please; What if anything is best to use on my glasses to stop them fogging/misting up? I am about to start my motorcycle journey (CBT tomorrow) and am wondering what other glasses wearers would recommend please. 😊
Clarity Defog It wipes. Magic. They last a lot longer than whatever the box says.
I honestly don't know - the manufacturers I've spoken to haven't gone into details, though Arai did say there were only slight tweaks made to the inner liner for the Quantic. As for glasses, it's a real problem as everything I've tried interferes with the anti-reflective coating on specs. If you have a lid you can just crack open, it's not something to worry about.
Great to hear you're getting started on a bike - have a brilliant time. If you need any help or advice around kit or anything, please do drop me a line via the Facebook page or email. Here's a link to all the kit reviews: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products
Enjoy yourself! Cheers, John
The older ones wont pass the 06 test because the tests are of a higher standard. So companies wont get away with just sticking a 06 sticker on the back.
everytime i see that kawa sitting there, i'm remembering myself sometime in the future i should get one :D
I forgot manufacturers still have region specific names for things for a moment. I kept thinking to myself at the beginning of the video "That's the RF-1400." and then I scrolled down to the description.
We're also waiting to see if there are any differences between the two. The NXR2 has to meet ECE22.06, which is a tougher standard. Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial why wldnt the US version (rf1400) meet the same standard?
@@Mike_Jones68 Some helmets are made differently to meet the requirements of different standards, so we can't be sure
Is this any different to the rf 1400? Seems exactly the same just a different name because it's ece rather than snell/dot?
why do you shake it man ? keep it steady so watchers don't get sick :)
Can I bring the RF-1400 back from North America and use it legally in the UK. Will it still be as safe as an ECE 22.06 rated helmet ?
Hello, nxr or nxr 2 the fit me well. And the money it's not the problem I what a helmet for use every day. Thanks
Great channel, well done 👍
Thanks! All the best, John
Really interesting info John. Any helmet I buy I would still want to be able to fit coms to. Does this come with cut outs for speakers in the liner. Are we still able to fit exterior accessories to the helmet like my Cardo Packtalk Bold? It's an issue I found with Shoei's GT Air 2 when they teamed up with Sena to make coms integrated into the helmet and not protrude but it also made it difficult to fit the bulky Cardo unit because of the sena cut outs.
I know what you mean with helmets designed for specific comms - the mouldings can get in the way on some.
The new bottom skirt seem to raise an issue for some on the very similar RF1400 in the states, but that's when using a clip to mount the intercom, and I found this video where the guy manages fine. In here the helmet also does have the cutouts for speakers, but I just trawled my footage and can't say for certain that they're in the European-approved version. I'm sure they were, but please don't pre-order one based on that.
ua-cam.com/video/2YkjHBTBBXc/v-deo.html
Legally, ECE22.06 won't stop people fitting what they want, but it's still too early to say how it'll affect manufacturers of aftermarket comms. My guess is it'll work itself out. Sorry I can't give a solid answer on those speaker cut-outs... kicking myself that I don't have that! Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial No problem John, really appreciate the detailed reply. Cheers
@@Banditmanuk Just heard back from the UK importer - yes, it does have cutouts for speakers. Cheers, John
Great! Thank you John! My mate struggles with the left-side visor at every stop! Ha ha!
It is such a simple fix i don’t get why shoei didn’t do it sooner. My other helmet, an HJC, had center lock visor like 5-6+ years ago
Why they should? Schubert S1, HJC F70, HJC CS15... and many others have such openning mechanism. And on the Shoei it was best. No that annoying metal rings in the middle when you are ridding on a hot days in traffic 5-20kmph with half-opened visor.
@@InegoMinblan if you go that slow you have it all the way opened. I’d rather a center lock all day everyday than the shitty plastic tab on the shoei’s. It is literally only in one single position that the lock is in your line of vision. One notch down or up and it is put of the way. You are grasping at straws
@@HeyAddieImTojo also can say about you, you are gradping the straws. Shoei mechanism works perfectly and very fast to use on red light, no buttons, no sticking of button, no problem at all.
This helmet just got 5/5 stars from Sharp. Well done Shoei
I have a GT Air with a 20s Evo Sena and need to replace it soon Do you have a similar helmet in mind to look at as I like the drop visor too much to give it up. Price isn't the biggest factor A decent level og quality is.
the mario reference got me hahaha, could you maybe make a video of the difference between 22.05 and 22.06?
Thanks! I go into more detail about 22.06 here: ua-cam.com/video/KZz-KdPm1uc/v-deo.html Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial I did watched that video when first uploaded, hope you could update us on the Intercom legality side of things when its available. Cheers
@@mattsmallshot Will do. Cheers, John
It doesn’t look like they’ve done much do make it pass the 2206.....?
Great review, I'm about to replace my NXR, was looking at the GT-Air 2 but can't reuse my Sena 20S, will the 20S be fine to use on the NXR 2 ?
It looks like it, but until we can get our hands on a production version I wouldn't like to make any promises, sorry! Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial thanks for answering, post if you find out wouldn't be supprised if others were in the same boat.
@@John451vfr My thoughts exactly Did you find a helmet I have a GT Air that needs replacing and use Sena as well
@@guzziryder6566 haven't as yet, m in Sydney we have basically been in lockdown the last 2 months so will sort a new helmet when things should open up again in late October
so is it worth to pay more for nxr2 instead of nxr1 which is now on sales ?
Looking forward to finding a good deal on the old model.
Bugger the price reduction on the out going model. To me a increased level of safety to your head on offer is worth much more than any savings on a redundant lid. Hopefully you just need to utilise it in the first place.
@@marcusgeorge1825 That's a valid point for sure, and if you're just shopping for one helmet then by all means get the latest one. However the NXR has been considered just fine up until now, it's not like it's suddenly gone terribly unsafe. Also, we've got three NXR's in the household already, and a number of visors, which won't fit the NXR2, so might as well but another to fit my head that seems to have gained some weight lately 😅
@@marcusgeorge1825 So the new NXR2 also has the ability to render its predecessor totally unsafe and unworthy? You must be an advertising copy-writer's dream.
@@godimsofuckingbored You are missing my point. Nothing to do with your comment (which doesn’t make any sense), no wonder you’re bored. I’ve never actually owned an Arai. Why? They’ve never felt comfortable for my head. The moment I started racing in the 90’s , my team manager and I went looking for a new lid. His words, which still hold true to me today is to always buy the best, safest helmet (that fits perfectly), and you can afford there is. Doesn’t mean, like myself who has a couple of different lids, that you chuck them all out when they no longer meet any new standards. Otherwise, we’d stupidly all just be riding or driving brand new stuff that meet the latest and greatest requirements for safety. I was referring only to me, and only if I was in the market for a new lid (which I’m not) nor does Shoei, HJC, etc have one. So if yours is under 5 years old, then it’s fine.
@@Treo80 No need for peps to start “panic buying” just because of an improved safety standard! My point was if you’re looking for a new lid then a couple of extra bucks for the extra safety is always worth it. If you spread that extra coin over the 5 year life span of an undamaged lid then why not? After all how much is your head worth? All my lids are well under 5 years, with different visors so I’m in no hurry. Stay upright and stay safe. 👍😎
Please could you measure the weight ? NXR2 is stated to be heavy around 1600gramms? What are the exact numbers for those two - NXR and NXR2 ?
Just over 1400g.
Other tester said
@@gajdanviktor2774 thats not exact numbers from scales. Because everyone saying different numbers from 1390g to 1600g thats not the deal. It should be on 63gramms heavier than original NXR so in size M it should be exactly 1337g. So we need exact numbers from scales. Also intresting thing its only AIM shell, not AIM+. As they stated its havier because wanted to make more secured and safe helmet. So I will understand if it will be havier and safer with AIM+, but there still AIM shell, so I guess they only add width of shell and NXR2 outer shell should be bigger then NXR?
Which Helmet Air Flow Is Best? Nxr Vs Nxr 2...... I want to buy a New helmet...but i confused....
My Choice Is
Nxr/Nxr2
Gt air 2 ( but sun shield may be block air into helmet)
Hjc rpha 11/ Hjc Rpha 70......Which One Is Very Good Air Flow Safety Features, city use, high way, touring and some time Race Track.....Help Me To Choose
@@gpzed9822 Nxr2...
I have the NXR and another Shoei, the visor ratchet has always been stiff and noisy compared to my AGV helmet which is silky smooth.
Wish they could solve this and buy another,😬
I have owned the NXR2 since December and it's the most disappointing shoei I have owned. Drafty and cold on winter mornings and more noisy then my previous NHR Shorebreak. Hopefully it will perform better in the summer.
Oh no! Sorry to hear that!
Perhaps check u have the right size? Inserts can be personally fitted
My personal experience with the NXR2 was bad. It was the noisiest helmet I have ever used, so much so that I ended up selling it on. I understand the factors of naked / screen, head shape and the use of earplugs etc but after watching so many video's claiming noise reduction in comparison to others I was shocked just how bad it was compared to my old HJC. Lost a chunk of money finding out it was awful.
Sorry to hear that! It's one of those variables that just can't be guaranteed for everyone I guess. I wore it on the VFR last night for 180 miles with no problem.
what helmet do you have now , sir?
great review, but I hope that these Shoei doesn't see the store again, you cracked the sh... out of that helmet :) If these two survived your 7 min review, then they are good for 7 years in my hands :))
What do you suggest, I can not decide which one to get? HJC RPHA 11 pro vs Shoei NXR 2? For a sport bike no track use.
Which one fits you best?
That is the problem I do not know. I will have to see if theyhave both available in store in my size. Which one do you think is the better of the two helments?
@@superstarsfastcars Personally, I'd say the Arai Quantic, but that's the problem - it's a personal fit thing. You really shouldn't buy any helmet without trying it on, at any price point let alone this one. You're setting yourself up for disappointment otherwise. Cheers, John
I'm in the market to replace my RF1200 (NXR), was thinking of trying out the X-14 ( X-Spirit 3) since I do feel the RF1200 start to lift at higher speeds. Any thoughts on Shoei releasing a X-16 (X-Spirit 4) soon?
I haven't heard anything I'm afraid, though I'd expect a fair few new lids to be announced in the coming months. Cheers, John
Hello, I have a question if you could help me. The motorcycle shops in my city do not have an NXR for me to try on so I tried on the Shoei GT Air. The large size in the GT Air was too loose on my head. Do all Shoei helmets fit the same in terms of size? As in, if the large size GT Air was too big on my head, does that mean the NXR 2 in large would also be too big? Does that mean I could safely order a medium size for the NXR 2? Thank you in advance!
I wouldn't like to promise. It's likely that it would be the same fit. I find the NXR2 a fraction tighter on my forehead than the Neotec II, but it's barely noticable - the sizing is usually fairly consistent. If the large is too big, that doesn't mean the medium is the right fit - you do really need to try them on until you get the correct size confirmed. Cheers, John
I use gt air 1 size M, try NXR 1 series M size. Same happened to my head. I don't know how the Nxr 2 series is.
Original NXR/RF-1200 shape/design looks better, though
Any changes on weight?
I couldn't compare as they were different shell sizes
Can I fit my Cardo Packtalk Slim on that helmet???
I would say almost certainly
Can you measure the shell size of the NXR vs NXR2? Would also be interesting to see if they had to include extra eps foam to pass 22.06 .
Good question, though I don't have them anymore, and they were different shells sizes so I couldn't have made any useful deductions from that anyway. Will be interesting to see in stores that still have stock of the NXR when this hits shelves. Cheers, John
The vent at the rear is huge, and you can’t close it 👎, probably go for Arai Quantic now.
The spoiler is large, but that doesn't mean it'll be intrusive - depends on the porting
Thanks for reply but think you’ve missed the point. I’m implying the vent hole is very large and you can’t close it.
This is not a race helmet, but a sport touring , as shoei have stated for that market. I’m not denying it has been improved in many areas but it’s heavier and seams they have cut corners to price beat competition. I’m a shoei fan normally but don’t think I’ll be buying this.
@@jamesgray541 I have a Shoei Neotec 2 which is very similar to the GT Air 2 but modular. It also has a permanently open vent at the rear. Although I don't ride in the depths of winter I have never felt it drawing a lot of air when the top vent is closed. But I do appreciate your point.
Is this RF1400?
I can't say for certain that there are no differences, but the US version of the NXR2 is the RF1400. Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial Ok thanks, need a new helmet, shoei glamster have to much air noice
No neutral on your bike ;-)
So,every new helmet is gonna look like an arai
What were the scientific names of the beings animalculus?
Isn't it a generic term for microscopic organisms, being the Latin for small animals? Not really my specialist subject.
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