2016 Cadillac ATS-V Coupe 6MT: Regular Car Reviews

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 9 сер 2020
  • The Cadillac ATS-V should have been called a Chevy Chevelle
    Merch:
    Hats:
    motoloot.com/products/regular...
    Keytags :
    motoloot.com/collections/regu...
    Shirts, hoodies, stickers
    www.redbubble.com/people/regul...
    Patreon
    / regularcarreviews
    How to submit a car
    • Video
  • Авто та транспорт

КОМЕНТАРІ • 1,6 тис.

  • @davidnacy1324
    @davidnacy1324 4 роки тому +2712

    I wouldn’t make it a Chevelle...Black it out, square up the styling, add a Buick badge and call it the grand national

    • @dunkshot32
      @dunkshot32 4 роки тому +120

      Given that if you take this exact car and swap an LT1 into it you get the Camaro, he isn't entirely wrong.
      Which also explains why the Mustang and Challenger keep jumping the Camaro (it's too small); but that's a rant for a different day.

    • @bottlely
      @bottlely 4 роки тому +99

      Would make sense. Plus, it'd help out Buick's brand image.

    • @RegularCars
      @RegularCars  4 роки тому +655

      Thisss

    • @VincentVader
      @VincentVader 4 роки тому +66

      Exactly, no V6 Chevelle

    • @maitele
      @maitele 4 роки тому +155

      GN fans when they look under the hood:
      "This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!"

  • @DeltaEcho303
    @DeltaEcho303 4 роки тому +753

    Dude, forget Chevelle. Turbo 6? Sports handling? This has Grand National written all over it.

    • @nomoreheroes93
      @nomoreheroes93 4 роки тому +21

      Make it green, put on a Lotus badge and you've got a modern-day Lotus Carlton.

    • @uuuultra
      @uuuultra 3 роки тому

      Dang how many times have I seen this comment on this video?

    • @Seethenhagen
      @Seethenhagen 3 роки тому

      I think "Cadillac Grand National" has a neat ring to it

  • @Audiodump
    @Audiodump 4 роки тому +746

    That is an EXTREMELY L.A. human.
    And like everyone in LA, he somehow has an ungodly amount of money to spend despite looking like he surfs for a living.

    • @encrypticfishy6683
      @encrypticfishy6683 4 роки тому +41

      The dream eh?

    • @Oblivion9873
      @Oblivion9873 4 роки тому +82

      Lots and lots of debt

    • @gamby16a
      @gamby16a 4 роки тому +51

      Bingo.
      I never understood this phenomenon. I have a pretty decent household income, am very much fiscally responsible/conservative and this car isn't remotely in my reach.

    • @ezragrace6348
      @ezragrace6348 4 роки тому +28

      trust fund

    • @hikeskool
      @hikeskool 4 роки тому +5

      "Ungodly."

  • @Numbers1and19more
    @Numbers1and19more 4 роки тому +552

    If they would’ve called this a Chevelle they would’ve rioted in the streets for it not having a V8. At least with it being a Cadillac it has the great used market and what I would describe as a solid interior.

    • @bottlely
      @bottlely 4 роки тому +53

      If they named it the GNX, I bet that no one will complain about the V6.

    • @emptyshirt
      @emptyshirt 4 роки тому +31

      It is a sleeper as a Cadillac. The cops don't expect you to drive like a dick in a Cadillac.

    • @hendo337
      @hendo337 4 роки тому +12

      @@emptyshirt Cops know what a CTS-V is...

    • @bdavbdavbdavbdav
      @bdavbdavbdavbdav 4 роки тому +11

      It’s a solid interior, but not the interior you would expect on a $70k car. Look at your BMW / Audi / Merc, I know which interior id rather have.

    • @StellarGale
      @StellarGale 4 роки тому +14

      It's a same platform as current Camaro. They could put V8 in it easily. In fact ATS-V doesn't have LT1 only because Europe favors small engines and not 6.2 liter V8 and Cadillac wanted to succeed in Europe. They didn't succeed anywhere instead.

  • @MonsieurKruhy
    @MonsieurKruhy 4 роки тому +378

    as a Polish guy I appreciate the 'PIEROGY' plate

    • @thetrainshop
      @thetrainshop 4 роки тому +19

      It's spelled wrong tho

    • @o0julek0o
      @o0julek0o 4 роки тому +16

      @@thetrainshop It is but these are americans. They're special.

    • @russetwolf13
      @russetwolf13 4 роки тому +5

      I live in Utah and didn't understand what a mormon was like to the uninitiated until I asked a kid in the store where the pierogis were, and he asked me what those were, even though his store carried them.

    • @dawidpartyka6973
      @dawidpartyka6973 4 роки тому +8

      I’d appreciate a plate of pierogis

    • @olliegardner4901
      @olliegardner4901 4 роки тому +10

      As a Russian, its spelt пироги.

  • @IAldana123
    @IAldana123 4 роки тому +473

    "He's a Saab guy at heart, but there's no future in that"
    **crying cat meme**

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 роки тому +7

      Polestar 2, spiritual successor to Saab.

    • @MostGenericUser
      @MostGenericUser 4 роки тому +2

      Maybe not in LA but they've got a big following over here on the east coast

    • @crankybear1236
      @crankybear1236 4 роки тому

      Brutal.

    • @RuzlB
      @RuzlB 3 роки тому +4

      I felt that 😔

    • @4Deadserious
      @4Deadserious 3 роки тому +1

      Time to petition NEVS to come to the US

  • @MilsurpMikeChannel
    @MilsurpMikeChannel 4 роки тому +264

    I disagree on one thing... Not Chevelle but Monte Carlo. I need a new Monte Carlo in my life.

    • @surrealmemes3518
      @surrealmemes3518 4 роки тому +6

      It honestly already reminds me of the old Monte Carlo styling. Just make the back sorta square and keep the front rounded in a way and it would work.

    • @sethw9979
      @sethw9979 4 роки тому +9

      While I agree in theory, now consider the price tag... A $70k Chevelle? A $70k Monte Carlo? I'm not feeling it. A whole bunch of boomers would certainly go for it, but they need Cadillac luxury these days. It's in the grey area, but I think Cadie made the most sense.

    • @MilsurpMikeChannel
      @MilsurpMikeChannel 4 роки тому +1

      @@sethw9979 This car is the premium model... and the Cadillac name also adds at least $10K. My 2007 Monte SS was $35K (which is $45K today) new and it wasn't totally loaded.

    • @worldofdoom995
      @worldofdoom995 4 роки тому +1

      in my opinion they should have named the SS as Chevelle. Would have sold more if it had a catchy name.

    • @ericharrison619
      @ericharrison619 4 роки тому +1

      Too bad they dragged the name over every ghetto/trailer park with those disposable FWD versions. They were not bad cars but they were never Monte Carlos.

  • @julians7268
    @julians7268 4 роки тому +416

    Poor guy drove all the way from LA just to have his car clowned on. Lol.

    • @JordanBlue1
      @JordanBlue1 4 роки тому +112

      Mr Regular clowns every car.

    • @diamondtron7852
      @diamondtron7852 4 роки тому +70

      It's RCR, you know what you're in for.

    • @roddydykes7053
      @roddydykes7053 4 роки тому +3

      He also had to lug the engine and not properly wring it out lol

    • @julians7268
      @julians7268 4 роки тому +8

      I know it's what RCR does, I just found it funny.

    • @hikeskool
      @hikeskool 4 роки тому +6

      @@julians7268 trying to explain your joke indicates it isn't funny 👌

  • @priedthirdeye
    @priedthirdeye 4 роки тому +302

    It’s really an attractive car.

    • @kaz9687
      @kaz9687 4 роки тому +14

      Yeah I always thought the atsv looked great exterior wise

    • @kevinkev1530
      @kevinkev1530 4 роки тому +2

      I love thm

    • @joviteddy
      @joviteddy 4 роки тому +18

      @@alexwhiteman2628 similar speeds as a c63, barely beaten by a c63s, and WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY cheaper than a c63, and not even in the same class as a e63. hot take.

    • @tsakitx8190
      @tsakitx8190 3 роки тому +8

      @@alexwhiteman2628 I love Mercs-AMGs but caddys look really sexy come on

    • @DoctorTauri
      @DoctorTauri 3 роки тому +3

      the big yeet as someone who owned over 5 Benz this is an attractive car. I doubt you ever been in either/or you sat on your dad’s friend C63 and felt anything is subpar because that’s the only “luxury” car you’ve sat on

  • @jorgeroque1995
    @jorgeroque1995 4 роки тому +950

    Honestly didn't know Cadillac still made manual cars. Interesting.

    • @cathat9622
      @cathat9622 4 роки тому +106

      They made a manual V8 wagon called the CTS-V

    • @DjAlyX1
      @DjAlyX1 4 роки тому +72

      Well they kinda don't because the ATS has been dropped unfortunately

    • @rubberwoody
      @rubberwoody 4 роки тому +51

      They actually STARTED making manuals recently

    • @SuperSstealth
      @SuperSstealth 4 роки тому +28

      They claim their new sedans will have manual options put out within the next few years

    • @DjAlyX1
      @DjAlyX1 4 роки тому +36

      @@SuperSstealth this thing is I don't personally understand a manual Cadillac. It almost is in contrast to what Cadillac stands for in a way. Still good to have choice mind l.

  • @theejoeylee
    @theejoeylee 4 роки тому +418

    The owner looks like he's fresh off the fear and loathing movie set

    • @kayEnt3rtainm3nt
      @kayEnt3rtainm3nt 4 роки тому +22

      We can't stop here! This is bat country!

    • @lfrankow
      @lfrankow 4 роки тому +6

      we can't stop here! this is bat country!

    • @DK-nv9zu
      @DK-nv9zu 4 роки тому +13

      He looks like the type of creature that calls LA home

    • @eathotdog
      @eathotdog 4 роки тому +6

      That man def has a suitcase full of drugs at home.

    • @shaiapouf420
      @shaiapouf420 4 роки тому +2

      @@DK-nv9zu LA has the best car culture so keep making fun buddy. you see these and m3 all day and hey were regularcar guys

  • @brockjennings
    @brockjennings 4 роки тому +343

    Ryan, the Cadillac's owner, looks like Jesus on Vacation.

    • @wanderingman8921
      @wanderingman8921 4 роки тому

      MFW

    • @finalpharoah1
      @finalpharoah1 4 роки тому +1

      Is there a photograph that Jesus took that proved he was a long haired white guy from the middle east?

    • @aluisious
      @aluisious 4 роки тому +6

      @@finalpharoah1 Yeah, the RNC hangs it on the wall and masturbates to it during conventions.

    • @jonathanvillalba3214
      @jonathanvillalba3214 3 роки тому +1

      @@finalpharoah1 well, if my memory serves me right, most people used make up back in the day and looking white was not that far fetched.

    • @KirbyLouis
      @KirbyLouis 3 роки тому +2

      or about 25% of guys aged 18-34 in ca

  • @kerimtore794
    @kerimtore794 4 роки тому +238

    Owner of the car be looking like Tame Impala

  • @oldred9122
    @oldred9122 4 роки тому +116

    GM is gonna let this car go unnoticed like they did with the SS

    • @stephenmoutafis5587
      @stephenmoutafis5587 4 роки тому +1

      Look what they did to the SS

    • @Snooder
      @Snooder 4 роки тому +7

      Lol. You realize they don't make these any more, right? They already dropped it like a hot potato.

    • @oldred9122
      @oldred9122 4 роки тому +14

      @@Snooder No I actually did not know GM stopped making these. lol. I actually never knew these existed before this video. Kinda like the SS.

    • @billylongdick3192
      @billylongdick3192 3 роки тому +4

      The ss and ats v are two of my favorite looking cars too at least ones reasonably within my budget lmao

    • @Villani_AV
      @Villani_AV 3 роки тому

      @@Snooder the ct4 is the new gen ats

  • @SP84Fanatic
    @SP84Fanatic 4 роки тому +372

    If this were called a Chevelle, it'd be criticized for not being a "real" Chevelle because it would have lacked a V8; not been as big as the older cars; and lacked retro styling reminiscent of the 1960s and 1970s cars. In many ways, a new Chevelle like the one described in the video could have experienced the same cold reception as the 2004-06 Pontiac GTO.

    • @JerzeyJimmy
      @JerzeyJimmy 4 роки тому +21

      that GTmonarO was fucking fantastic

    • @cat-em3mj
      @cat-em3mj 4 роки тому +3

      Exactly! but even more since it's a v6

    • @SP84Fanatic
      @SP84Fanatic 4 роки тому +7

      Jersey Jimmy It certainly was. However, people expected the reborn GTO to have retro styling and perhaps more room along with a lower price tag, and the car did not deliver on those.

    • @Tool0GT92
      @Tool0GT92 4 роки тому +35

      They are saving Chevelle for a three cylinder turbo AWD crossover.

    • @FlippyTriks
      @FlippyTriks 4 роки тому +9

      @@Tool0GT92 Don't you put that evil on me

  • @Henchman1977
    @Henchman1977 4 роки тому +176

    Don't care. I like sporty Cadillacs and I like this.

    • @torotimemaster8983
      @torotimemaster8983 4 роки тому +2

      Cope

    • @kevinkev1530
      @kevinkev1530 4 роки тому +2

      Me too thy are cray

    • @Nate_H.
      @Nate_H. 4 роки тому +6

      some of the best cars in the market in my opinion, beat my 2012 ctsv to hell, then modded the hell out of it, and it just keeps asking for more

    • @kevinkev1530
      @kevinkev1530 4 роки тому +2

      @@Nate_H. nice I got a 14 ats it's my old head car so keeping it stock just rims, myb the ats v wing

    • @leotam3372
      @leotam3372 4 роки тому +3

      Alpha chassis all the way

  • @spencercohen2673
    @spencercohen2673 4 роки тому +138

    Official car of the 72 month finance.

    • @defyyourlogic487
      @defyyourlogic487 4 роки тому +1

      That would be the mustang gt350 imo lol

    • @rook1196
      @rook1196 4 роки тому +1

      That would be a brand new Nissan Versa.

    • @DannysGarage
      @DannysGarage 4 роки тому +4

      Most cars nowadays are financed for 72 months... you're thinking 84 months or 96 months if you're trying to make a joke about a ridiculous financing term.

    • @LarryTheButcher
      @LarryTheButcher 3 роки тому

      104 month in Canada

    • @jonathanvillalba3214
      @jonathanvillalba3214 3 роки тому

      @@DannysGarage jesus christ! At that point id rather finance a beater car with mods worth more than what Ill get back.

  • @smith3825633123
    @smith3825633123 4 роки тому +263

    I remember working for GM when this was developed...it was a quagmire but fun as hell to drive.

    • @unclesachamo8109
      @unclesachamo8109 4 роки тому +6

      Do you mean a literal quagmire

    • @angelesc2033
      @angelesc2033 4 роки тому +31

      Family guy came up to my mind.
      *GIGGITY*

    • @asiftalpur3758
      @asiftalpur3758 4 роки тому +20

      The council has awarded you with a single giggity

    • @manicabawse2867
      @manicabawse2867 4 роки тому +1

      @@angelesc2033 its a crossover with American dad the posters name is Steve smith

    • @DK-nv9zu
      @DK-nv9zu 4 роки тому +10

      I would hope you’d remember. It’s only been a few years

  • @JimmySawFinger
    @JimmySawFinger 4 роки тому +137

    The shots of this cadi on the freeway looks so good. I personally think this car is gorgeous.

    • @EndeavorsDnB
      @EndeavorsDnB 2 роки тому +3

      Same, honestly love tht Cadillac put this out.

    • @panchokanpol4926
      @panchokanpol4926 2 роки тому +9

      I Just bought one today for my Wife, Damn This car is Fast! It pulls hard!

    • @berrymucuckiner4890
      @berrymucuckiner4890 2 роки тому

      From the front and side..
      If you think the back… a guy must be into out of shape Karen’s in their 40S

    • @christopherlaflam6383
      @christopherlaflam6383 2 роки тому +2

      It is gorgeous! I've got a XTS VSport Platinum, which is just epic.

  • @heavychevytruck
    @heavychevytruck 4 роки тому +246

    This is NOT your father’s Cadillac.

  • @zalcan3620
    @zalcan3620 4 роки тому +151

    Realistically the nova makes more sense considering they're both the same size and are entry level cars

    • @hacon4
      @hacon4 4 роки тому +4

      Except the nova originally cost about half the ATS in today's dollars

    • @cirrustate8674
      @cirrustate8674 4 роки тому +15

      Nah. Make this a modern Buick Grand National.

    • @jabeard9
      @jabeard9 4 роки тому +2

      You all know Chevy would have made it a “Celebrity Coupe”

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 4 роки тому +1

      @@hacon4 and? A Nova wouldn't have all the features of a cadillac. The ATS is the same platform as the 6th gen Camaro that starts at $25k.

    • @hacon4
      @hacon4 4 роки тому

      @@DrewLSsix my argument is that it's not the same as a nova, it's aimed at a completely different market. Also there really is no way to compare it to a nova in terms of features because they come from completely different time periods but the ATS is a luxury vehicle and the Nova is definitely not

  • @winterburden
    @winterburden 4 роки тому +144

    I want to eat at home, dawg. It's a pandemic. Frozen waffles, breakfast sausage, and whiskey for dinner.

    • @bansheemania1692
      @bansheemania1692 4 роки тому +3

      For Dinner?
      Whiskey is Now A Food Group 😂 Coffee=wild turkey
      Lunch Wild turkey and a Hoagie
      More Wild Turkey
      Grill food for Supper. Wild turkey And Miller lite.😎 Btw Have you Noticed The Whiskey shelf's are Kinda Bare Lately

    • @SausageFingers420
      @SausageFingers420 4 роки тому +1

      I never knew the state stores delivered until all this went down. Now that they're open again, I don't even bother. Bourbon delivered right to my door? Almost soothes the sting of having the PLCB in the first place.

    • @zalien6
      @zalien6 4 роки тому +1

      Beer for breakfast and whiskey for dinner 🍽️😋

    • @paulosicne5803
      @paulosicne5803 4 роки тому +3

      It's a plandemic

    • @winterburden
      @winterburden 4 роки тому

      @@paulosicne5803 you're a plandemic

  • @Mrb00st
    @Mrb00st 4 роки тому +71

    It's a weird car, and it was way too expensive, and the interior is awful, and it's a dumb name, and holy shit these are fun to drive though. Wow they are a handful. What a fun ass car.

    • @ghaleon128
      @ghaleon128 4 роки тому +3

      If you just want a fun drive, for half the price, you can get a V8 Camaro/Mustang with nearly as much HP.

    • @pontiacGXPfan
      @pontiacGXPfan 4 роки тому +7

      @@ghaleon128 Camaros and Mustangs are tired douchebag cars driven almost exclusively by douchebags

    • @mitri5389
      @mitri5389 4 роки тому +1

      @@pontiacGXPfan who cares what others say. they will saying something about anything but your will remain true

    • @daveh2612
      @daveh2612 4 роки тому +1

      ATS = Alpha Touring....Sedan? Coupe

    • @ghaleon128
      @ghaleon128 4 роки тому

      @@pontiacGXPfan must be a lot of douchebags out there then because they're outselling these pretentious tin cans by about 30:1.

  • @GrandmaJosey
    @GrandmaJosey 4 роки тому +60

    That Blink-182 joke fell flatter than tornado alley

  • @P6fitz
    @P6fitz 4 роки тому +16

    Major respect for the owner being a Saab guy at heart. We’re cut from the same cloth

    • @realpillboxer
      @realpillboxer 4 роки тому +1

      Coulda got a late-model 9-5 Aero wagon and tuned the shit out of it, though the reliability would be highly suspect. But at least you get actual buttons and don't have to deal with the absolutely horse-shit touch capacitance center stack.

  • @Hammar89
    @Hammar89 4 роки тому +24

    It's a very good looking car and being a manual Cadillac, I have to respect this thing.

  • @NoClassic
    @NoClassic 4 роки тому +77

    wow those gauges look like they came out of a dihatsu. GM still going to GM even when you pay 60k.

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 4 роки тому +8

      And??? Nobody seems to care when Lexus takes generous donations from the Toyota bin.

    • @palletjackinfo
      @palletjackinfo 4 роки тому +26

      @@DrewLSsix Most Toyota parts look decent. That gauge cluster plastic looks like it was sourced from Dollar Tree.

    • @harleymitchelly5542
      @harleymitchelly5542 4 роки тому +4

      @@DrewLSsix It's about brand expectations.
      Lexus always kinda had that tinge of being drawn from the premium Toyota parts bin. Remember that their first big name car was the IS series in the US, and those were effectively rebadged Toyotas anyways.
      Cadillac on the other hand has a much more storied reputation and people still remember when a Cadillac used to be this grand status symbol. This is not a status symbol. This is a BMW with the serial numbers fled off and some obviously bootleg parts attached.

    • @CPAJayhawk
      @CPAJayhawk 4 роки тому

      Yeah they are garbage

    • @pontiacGXPfan
      @pontiacGXPfan 4 роки тому +2

      Like BMW somehow has a better instrument cluster than this just because it's a BMW. take the X5 for example. To get a decent instrument cluster in that car requires paying almost twice the original window sticker and even then the interior still looks kinda......blah

  • @kevin9c1
    @kevin9c1 4 роки тому +99

    Kind of ironic that your entire position on this car is that "DERP, THIS ISN'T A REAL CADILLAC". It's ironic because that's exactly the position of the Boomers you always make fun of (and did in this very video).

    • @MrBopet
      @MrBopet 4 роки тому +6

      FART NOISE GO FRRRRTTTTT

    • @kevinkev1530
      @kevinkev1530 4 роки тому +4

      Sounds right

    • @zibingotaeam3716
      @zibingotaeam3716 4 роки тому +19

      That's not his argument. His argument was "This shouldn't have been a cadillac, as it doesn't sell with the cadillac crowd." At no point does he actually give the brand flak for building the car this way, he just says that it has the wrong badge on it to sell with the target demographic that would have been interested in it.
      it's not "This isnt a real cadillac", its "The people buying cadillacs will see it that way and those that like these cars won't want a cadillac."
      As others have pointed out, the Chevelle SS wouldn't have been a good choice either, but the Buick GNX would have been excellent.

    • @Hazztech
      @Hazztech 3 роки тому +2

      @@zibingotaeam3716 there was no Cadillac crowd. With this, they're making one. Get it through your head.

    • @EndeavorsDnB
      @EndeavorsDnB 2 роки тому +3

      He may just b slightly biased against modern Cadillac.

  • @SuperCookieGaming_
    @SuperCookieGaming_ 4 роки тому +142

    the problem with chevelle is that it isn’t a muscle car name. chevelle was just the name of the mid size car for chevy. yes the ss was a muscle car but the chevelle itself wasn’t. But i think the malibu name has gotten a little tired and renaming chevy’s midsize car back to chevelle could harken back to the 60’s.
    I think it makes sense to have this car as a cadillac. they know it wouldn’t sell very well as a chevy because want stereotypical american is going go want a twin turbo v6 with a small trunk. most people just want something that gets them and their friends there without hassle. So put it with a brand that has lower sale volume to make it look better and at the same time put a “luxury” interior and make a bunch of profit. on each car instead of less money as a chevy

    • @superchroma
      @superchroma 4 роки тому +3

      I'd rather they use new names if the styling isn't going to hearken back to the old design.

    • @SP84Fanatic
      @SP84Fanatic 4 роки тому +12

      You're hitting on a point that I've discovered recently. It seems old names are subject to revisionist history. When you hear "Chevelle," you think of the powerful, big-block muscle cars from the 1960s and 1970s, not the name of Chevrolet's midsize sedan line, the majority of which had inline-sixes or lower-displacement V8s. That name carries all sorts of expectations that, if a car were to use it and fall short of those expectations, people will see it as a pretender, rather than a true successor.

    • @southerncoyote
      @southerncoyote 4 роки тому +8

      If only Pontiac wasn’t dead...

    • @kylesoler4139
      @kylesoler4139 4 роки тому +1

      What about Monte Carlo?

    • @SuperCookieGaming_
      @SuperCookieGaming_ 4 роки тому +3

      @@kylesoler4139 monte carlo is a personal luxury car so it could work.

  • @joestrangerearranged
    @joestrangerearranged 4 роки тому +13

    I have this car in phantom grey in la also for the same reasons as this dude Ryan. I think the people that complain about the instrument cluster have never driven it it’s fine once you turn the damn car on and drive it. The touch panel console is super easy once you figure it out. This car is a sleeper beast

  • @the_arkman_smitty
    @the_arkman_smitty 4 роки тому +18

    Imagine if Pontiac stayed in business and just made good sports cars like this, not trying to beat the Corvette, rather just compete with the M3, etc. To hell with the infighting :(

  • @Corkoth55
    @Corkoth55 4 роки тому +56

    I'm glad Riff Raff let you borrow his Cadillac.

    • @midwestairtech
      @midwestairtech 4 роки тому +13

      I'm not sure you know who Riff Raff is

    • @Corkoth55
      @Corkoth55 4 роки тому +3

      @@midwestairtech takes one to know one.

    • @midwestairtech
      @midwestairtech 4 роки тому +1

      @@Corkoth55 D:

    • @RexcorJ
      @RexcorJ 3 роки тому

      Was... was that a... *self burn* ? Gat damn.

  • @nothinghere7391
    @nothinghere7391 4 роки тому +98

    This man has Pierogi as his license plate.
    Thank you

    • @Syncopia
      @Syncopia 4 роки тому +4

      🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱

  • @MaD707MaN
    @MaD707MaN 4 роки тому +63

    The Chevelle name on that would be a huge mistake.

  • @NickDiVona
    @NickDiVona 4 роки тому +48

    "He's a SAAB guy at heart"
    Oof
    Why cry when you can SAAB?

    • @RexcorJ
      @RexcorJ 3 роки тому

      I'll miss those crazy bastards and their "do or die" designing spirit.

    • @mateuszzimon8216
      @mateuszzimon8216 3 роки тому

      @@ericdeguzman9997 Fun fact: GM give Saab ready car just for styling and add more saab flare, they change 90% of it even the wheelbase

  • @GeordieTaylor
    @GeordieTaylor 4 роки тому +14

    So funny story, I own one of these and my tuner and I were going through the ECU the other night...
    No matter how fast you're going, no matter what gear you're in; if you're anywhere under 4000 revs... it will NOT give you full throttle. You can mash that gas pedal all the way to the floor and it won't give a goddamn. It's got such a nanny state style electric throttle that it will wait until 4k before it even gives you over 60% throttle input. Thank god it can be tuned out lol

    • @theyunglos
      @theyunglos 3 роки тому +3

      I hope you still check your comments. I’m looking into getting one used.. they are going for 30-40k. Have you had any problems.. how much was the tune and what was the result ?!? Scale of 1-10 would you do again ?!?

    • @superstriker412
      @superstriker412 2 роки тому

      @@theyunglos The 3.6 engine has been super reliable in out 2013 Buick Lacrosse. It's not a twin turbo, but it's the same engine.

  • @vr4787
    @vr4787 4 роки тому +34

    Maybe that’s the problem, Cadillac was never for the youth, it was always for middle to late age people who could afford American luxury and comfort. They were never about performance.

    • @kylesoler4139
      @kylesoler4139 4 роки тому +6

      What about African Americans and the 2000s Escalade?

    • @pontiacGXPfan
      @pontiacGXPfan 4 роки тому +9

      so Cadillac should limit itself to the same bag of wrinkles customer base it has been catering to for a century? Lincoln tried that with the Continental and now they don't even have the Continental anymore

    • @vr4787
      @vr4787 4 роки тому +2

      pontiacGXPfan be honest with yourself, when you think performance, you don’t think Cadillac. Cadillac’s been trying to be too much like a European performance brand rather than the luxury cars they were known for. It’s more of an identity crisis than anything. It’s not so much the age demographic that’s the issue, sedans have been decreasing in popularity for years, Ford killed off its sedan line up to make CUVs and SUVs, naturally Lincoln would have to fall in line.

    • @DenizenOfTheMoon
      @DenizenOfTheMoon 4 роки тому +2

      Kyle Soler bro that is racist as hell

    • @vr4787
      @vr4787 4 роки тому +1

      Kyle Soler idk what you’re trying to stir up or insinuate. You could have just asked about the Escalade.

  • @camerons6028
    @camerons6028 4 роки тому +44

    "What's that rattle?"
    Thats the GMC in Cadillac.

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 4 роки тому

      Thats the caddillac in the caddillac

    • @_dmfd
      @_dmfd 4 роки тому +6

      That's your 72 month, $70k investment reminding you you're an idiot

    • @Nate_H.
      @Nate_H. 4 роки тому

      @@_dmfd what do you drive?

    • @_dmfd
      @_dmfd 4 роки тому

      @@Nate_H. my daily is a 2019 Jetta SEL, last daily was a 2012 Malibu LTZ which went to my gf and a 2009 Kia Spectra5 SX Sport for gas mileage, my fun cars are a 1997 Saab 9000k aero, and a 2003 Saab 9⁵ aero wagon. And yes, Ik, my Saabs are GM lol. I'd never invest into a NG Cadillac.

  • @mitchell7568
    @mitchell7568 4 роки тому +20

    As a resident of the commonwealth of north east Pennsylvania, I’ve never seen anything like this before

    • @bansheemania1692
      @bansheemania1692 4 роки тому +1

      Haha.. jessup Pa.

    • @brandonobaza8610
      @brandonobaza8610 4 роки тому +2

      I’ll let you know if I ever see one with a “You Bet Your Dupah I’m Polish” vanity plate.

  • @Does_it_come_in_black
    @Does_it_come_in_black 4 роки тому +20

    I’m so glad GM did not call this a Chevelle

  • @brainc0la-_-
    @brainc0la-_- 4 роки тому +11

    That looks neat, however that dude has a neat shirt and he looks FULL BLOWN L.A.

  • @nitehawk86
    @nitehawk86 4 роки тому +23

    There is nothing more Pennsylvania than a California license plate that reads "PIEROGY".

    • @jaychoi4973
      @jaychoi4973 4 роки тому

      I'm still so confused by the whole plate situation lol, he has PA inspection stickers up front??

    • @teddieteddie7535
      @teddieteddie7535 3 роки тому

      @@jaychoi4973
      My guess is he bought the Caddy in PA, moved to Cali, and is back for a visit. Those windshield stickers are a pain to remove so I'm not surprised to see them still there.

  • @RobertMilat
    @RobertMilat 3 роки тому +5

    I'm European and I absolutely love the way this thing looks and want one so baaaad

  • @jeywrath
    @jeywrath 3 роки тому +4

    I love the way these Cadillac V cars look so much. Just absolutely gorgeous.

  • @jamesperdomo7055
    @jamesperdomo7055 4 роки тому +9

    Hey there, Studio City, LA resident here, about a third of all guys here look like the owner.

  • @cyberrednec
    @cyberrednec 4 роки тому +62

    The official car of: I own 3 subways, one in Fond Du Lac, one in Waupun, and in Ripon.

    • @lc7581
      @lc7581 4 роки тому +4

      Fond Du Lac, but yes, 100%.

    • @cyberrednec
      @cyberrednec 4 роки тому

      @@lc7581 fixed😂

    • @NOE3ON
      @NOE3ON 4 роки тому

      Officer Buckley has entered the chat...

    • @joshua.harazin
      @joshua.harazin 4 роки тому +14

      Obligatory up vote for Wisconsin references.

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 4 роки тому +1

      Cheese country

  • @Aperson156
    @Aperson156 4 роки тому +10

    I got a "Febreeze bathroom odors" ad right after "OH, SHUT UP".
    UA-cam is making the fart jokes for you now.

  • @DeltaOps3
    @DeltaOps3 4 роки тому +5

    Fun fact- one of the most powerful cars ever made by GM, with the exception of the corvette z06, was the Cadillac STS V, a supercharged northstar

  • @andyking894
    @andyking894 4 роки тому +16

    On a long enough time line...Even Mr. Regular will find his "Soap Opera Twin."
    Seriously though, am I the only one who sees it?!

  • @benpen1605
    @benpen1605 4 роки тому +22

    I feel like there was a slight punch at Ellen DeGeneres at around 11:00

  • @TrueRetroflection
    @TrueRetroflection 4 роки тому +27

    I wanna eat at Bob Evans
    Where I can get a plate of H O T B R O W N

    • @penelopeboivin3191
      @penelopeboivin3191 4 роки тому +6

      and a pint of c o l d y e l l o w

    • @daveh2612
      @daveh2612 4 роки тому +2

      @@penelopeboivin3191 W A T E R S P O R T S

  • @Fee.1
    @Fee.1 4 роки тому +3

    One Of the things that drew Ryan to this car was his time spent nailed to the cross, that really changed his outlook on what cars he drives.

  • @Fuddleton
    @Fuddleton 4 роки тому +18

    So it was supposed to be a Pontiac when in development, but that ended when the brand ended.

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 4 роки тому +2

      That explains why it looks like the whole world pissed in it's bowl of malt o meal.

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler 4 роки тому

      @@viniciusbraga9881 thats so dumb. Why?

    • @zephead843
      @zephead843 4 роки тому +2

      @@BigWheel. "Malt O Meal." Trailer park approved!

    • @chaseman94
      @chaseman94 4 роки тому +1

      @@viniciusbraga9881 probably could've resurrected a classic name like Catalina, Tempest, Phoenix , Parisienne, or a new name altogether something that screams Pontiac.

    • @nico-nh3rp
      @nico-nh3rp 4 роки тому +2

      @@viniciusbraga9881 well um sorry but this was supposed to be a g6

  • @ahmadmorrow2749
    @ahmadmorrow2749 4 роки тому +27

    I’ve always been attracted to this car, would want to own one

    • @person.w9780
      @person.w9780 4 роки тому +6

      Seems really fun to drive.

    • @chrwl007
      @chrwl007 4 роки тому +3

      Meh, screw the car... is the owner taken?

    • @kevinkev1530
      @kevinkev1530 4 роки тому +1

      I want a 2 door I have a 4

  • @zachsmcl
    @zachsmcl 4 роки тому +12

    The new gen Pontiac’s were literally gonna be built on this platform. This literally could’ve been the sunfire GXP and the CTS V would’ve been the Grand Am GXP and and and and and and

  • @ArcherBrady
    @ArcherBrady 4 роки тому +8

    Roman’s intro and outro to this were really well done! His voice is getter better and more defined.

  • @paulm6481
    @paulm6481 4 роки тому +51

    Better car than that new CT4. If only Caddy put a decent instrument gauge in this car...

    • @pontiacGXPfan
      @pontiacGXPfan 4 роки тому +2

      I wouldn't get my hopes up because BMW stuck in the ugly ass digital gauge cluster in the 3 series

    • @pierogiguy
      @pierogiguy 4 роки тому +5

      As an owner, I never look at gauge cluster (not that it ever bothered me,...they are gauges, not a video game) as my HUD has majority of what I need.

    • @bahamatodd
      @bahamatodd 4 роки тому

      The CT4-V Blackwing will get the same engine and manual transmission.

    • @user-iu2kq7nx8u
      @user-iu2kq7nx8u 4 роки тому +1

      The CT4V and CT5Vs are a joke, slower than some non-V Cadillacs, hopefully blackwing will be better

    • @moniack
      @moniack 4 роки тому

      You can upgrade to the digital one without too much trouble. My CTS has the same blah cluster.

  • @Kocan7
    @Kocan7 4 роки тому +9

    "PIEROGY" I love this licence plate almost as much as I love to eat pierogy.

  • @DrFelch
    @DrFelch 4 роки тому +64

    LOL. Nothing's ever good enough for Mr. Regular,

    • @TonyF1MMA
      @TonyF1MMA 4 роки тому +6

      The c8 was pretty close

    • @stripiervirus2863
      @stripiervirus2863 4 роки тому +13

      LS SWAP WINNEBAGO

    • @psf12345
      @psf12345 4 роки тому +9

      Except a Toyota, any Toyota, even a rusty death trap

    • @catfish552
      @catfish552 4 роки тому +3

      Turns out, most cars are kinda eh.

    • @ramonmendoza2510
      @ramonmendoza2510 4 роки тому +3

      He was pretty happy with the Accord coupe

  • @S-Kidz
    @S-Kidz 4 роки тому +4

    "effort is too often equated with desperation" that was deep and very true.

  • @KoromPoduction
    @KoromPoduction 4 роки тому +6

    I may be biased because I sell Cadillac but I’ve driven this car quite a bit and it way more fun to drive than an M3 or M4. Extremely underrated car. Awesome preowned bargain. You can get a nice one in the mid $30ks

    • @JWP6948
      @JWP6948 2 роки тому

      I got mine for 25,900 with 53k on it. Pretty much gave it away! 🙌🏽
      Well I mean it cost me more cause the wife got a 2015 fully loaded XTS with 32k also but we got a deal on both so everybody won I think 🤔

  • @Ganglydude
    @Ganglydude 2 роки тому +5

    I love the styling on this car. I think it's a solid look for Cadillac.

  • @Mattyew
    @Mattyew 4 роки тому

    excellent episode. hit on demographics, the auto industry with awesome advice, voice effects, comparisons, and dissected the car entirely while finding a nice way to summarize the car! MOAR!!!!!!!!!

  • @shutterbug1076
    @shutterbug1076 4 роки тому

    This feels like a back to your roots RCR video. Great video!

  • @zimbabwejim7153
    @zimbabwejim7153 3 роки тому +5

    As a big fan of both Cadillacs (as in 6 meter coupes) and sporty cars I really like the fact that this exists, might get one when they get cheap. After all the Caddy badge lost it's REAL meaning in the late seventies when they started putting other marques' engines in their cars so why not go all out and make some sporty fun ones

  • @christophermcelligott1593
    @christophermcelligott1593 4 роки тому +8

    "...and in a cynical era, effort is too often equated with desperation."
    The best indictment of everything wrong with grunge music.

    • @matthewkoch6937
      @matthewkoch6937 4 роки тому +1

      To be fair, I like grunge. What you're saying sounds like mumble rap's issue.

    • @ileutur6863
      @ileutur6863 3 роки тому

      Grunge is amazing

  • @rebelguy9487
    @rebelguy9487 4 роки тому

    Mr. RCR is at it again......bringing the quality UA-cam content that we all know and love!

  • @BELCAN57
    @BELCAN57 4 роки тому +2

    "Where do you want to eat?", "WHERE do you want to EAT!?" That whole thing gave me flashbacks.

  • @cesariojpn
    @cesariojpn 4 роки тому +40

    Remember when Cadillac actually meant "Quality?"

    • @itsthatsebguy93
      @itsthatsebguy93 4 роки тому +14

      1968?

    • @YourBoyMatt
      @YourBoyMatt 4 роки тому +19

      Noone watching these videos was alive in the medievals

    • @warmstrong5612
      @warmstrong5612 4 роки тому +8

      Up to early 70's? Everything after that took a nosedive.

    • @Lndmk227
      @Lndmk227 4 роки тому +2

      No. I wasn't born yet.

    • @TheWwong
      @TheWwong 4 роки тому +2

      I do sometimes, but suffer from short-term loss of long-term memory or is it long-term loss of short term memory...........I forget.

  • @jaffo7018
    @jaffo7018 4 роки тому +4

    A Cadillac made it from California to PA? Im kinda impressed

    • @daveh2612
      @daveh2612 4 роки тому +1

      Not just a Cadillac. A GM 3.6 powered Cadillac! And kept it's timing chains on!

  • @chubbysumo2230
    @chubbysumo2230 4 роки тому +10

    It's the Caprice. This is what the Caprice would have looked like as a two-door, Chevy just didn't want to import to Holden and the Caprices.

    • @LouisSubearth
      @LouisSubearth 4 роки тому +2

      But the Caprice was the largest sedan Holden made though.

    • @Misericorde9
      @Misericorde9 4 роки тому +1

      In the US the Caprice has always been a working man’s land yacht/family car/cop car. Bring the name back here and people will expect body-on-frame construction, bench seats for six or more adults, and enough trunk space for a full bordello.

  • @TheFlamingrabbits
    @TheFlamingrabbits 4 роки тому +3

    Oh sweet I just bought an atsv just like this.
    I also just drove from DC to sf with it, and I fit my entire home gym (barbell, 500 pounds of plates, folded up bench, squat stands) and 2 carry on suitcases of clothes. It is functional!!

    • @theyunglos
      @theyunglos 3 роки тому

      I’m looking into getting one. Do you like it

  • @getmeouttahere7638
    @getmeouttahere7638 4 роки тому +6

    Interestingly, a mechanic I know told me the car this felt the most like to him was a GTR.

    • @mikehertz6507
      @mikehertz6507 4 роки тому +1

      Hennessy calls it a baby GTR. After his tune of course

  • @ari_the_dog1
    @ari_the_dog1 4 роки тому +9

    Its a great car for the right person. I bought it to hoon and it does it wonderfully. I don't care what Cadillac stands for or stood for or is supposed to stand for. I don't care if its a Cadillac or a Nissan or a Kia. I bought it for the driving experience that it provides while hauling our family of four and a mid size dog (though slower with the pup onboard). The interior? Don't care. Oh, and I didn't pay 70k for it, or 60k or 50k.

    • @mikehertz6507
      @mikehertz6507 4 роки тому

      I was cross shopping this car and instead got a 997 Carrera S. Best decision!

  • @Mattyew
    @Mattyew 4 роки тому

    Also congrats on almost a million subs! you'll be there in no time

  • @qmmt9786
    @qmmt9786 2 роки тому +1

    God I want one of these. My in laws have the 4 door ATS 2.0 Turbo and it's one of my favorite cars I've ever driven.

  • @entropy11
    @entropy11 4 роки тому +6

    "He's a SAAB guy at heart but, there's no future in that."
    T_T

  • @patrickmartin3322
    @patrickmartin3322 4 роки тому +21

    This would make a better Buick Grand National than a Chevelle.

    • @midwestairtech
      @midwestairtech 4 роки тому +1

      Buick is supposed to be the "family brand" now

  • @wobblysauce
    @wobblysauce 4 роки тому +1

    That intro... wasn't thinking it was true then by the end of it was spot on.

  • @sambo9855
    @sambo9855 4 роки тому +3

    At one point in time in the 20th century, Cadillac was a top notch luxury brand right up there with Rolls Royce. What the hell happened

  • @hamstirrer6882
    @hamstirrer6882 4 роки тому +7

    Would rather have this than the equivalent beemer, you see them everywhere and theyre always damn automatics.
    Plus, Cadillac is like the US's Rover.

  • @UmmYeahOk
    @UmmYeahOk 4 роки тому +12

    “Fail at capturing the youth market?” Well... ...it would help if that market had the disposable income to purchase/lease a brand new car, let alone a “high end” model.

    • @m1k3l1f3
      @m1k3l1f3 4 роки тому

      We are too busy buying BRZ's/86's

    • @rj6110
      @rj6110 4 роки тому

      thats true, but even if that market had the disposable income they wouldnt be getting the ATS-V

    • @m1k3l1f3
      @m1k3l1f3 4 роки тому

      @@rj6110 No, they would probably buy a high end pickup truck and then jack it up
      for their oil patch job.

  • @_trudge
    @_trudge 4 роки тому +2

    I love the song at the end

  • @jamesanakin
    @jamesanakin 4 роки тому

    Good to see you were able to find a car that meets all those 'specific' needs you outlined.

  • @zephyrgolem
    @zephyrgolem 4 роки тому +10

    I'd love to see Mr. Regular review a Reliant Robin

    • @vinnydaq13
      @vinnydaq13 4 роки тому

      Ezekiel Betia Mr.Bean’s nemesis....oh yeah!!!

    • @hsvcommodore4111
      @hsvcommodore4111 4 роки тому +1

      That would be really funny

    • @mottmatt7844
      @mottmatt7844 4 роки тому +1

      A season in Europe would be great. Imagine a Panda review.

    • @hsvcommodore4111
      @hsvcommodore4111 4 роки тому

      Mottmatt he already did a season in england once

    • @mottmatt7844
      @mottmatt7844 4 роки тому +2

      @@hsvcommodore4111 i know I'm just saying another one maybe or somewhere else in Europe.

  • @CadillacFleetwood68
    @CadillacFleetwood68 4 роки тому +13

    "I guess Cadillac did it.... but at what cost?" This single quote hit me. Cadillac, the once glorious brand of Deville, Fleetwood, and Eldorado's, has been beaten to death. Replaced by an American brand with a sense of shame amid an identity crisis. I want my American land yacht, I want my V8 engine and bench seat, and I have a fist full of money. No, I'm not 65yrs old, just an Italian-American millennial that remembers when owning a Cadillac was not only a sign that you made it but a welcome card to the middle class, it was a big deal. Something you took pride in handwashing every Sunday. Sadly it seems those days are long past. So the world is left with a $70k+ Sports Cars to drive on the lunar surface that is the *average* American roadway.

    • @andyking894
      @andyking894 4 роки тому +1

      A Millennial...With a fist full of money...And wants to drive a Cadillac...
      ...Soooo, do you market your products in teenths, or Nickels and Dimes...? 😶

    • @TheNiteNinja19
      @TheNiteNinja19 4 роки тому +5

      I miss the big American boats.

    • @CadillacFleetwood68
      @CadillacFleetwood68 4 роки тому +2

      @@andyking894 Just a man who enjoys a Cadillac. All my money has been earned 100% legally through hard work. Cadillac's of the past were just comfortable cars. When I owned my last Cadillac people always were surprised how comfortable the car rode and about eh plush interior. I guess I just like different things when I buy a vehicle.

    • @CadillacFleetwood68
      @CadillacFleetwood68 4 роки тому +3

      @Frank White - I'm glad you like them. Everyone has different tastes when it comes to cars.

    • @pontiacGXPfan
      @pontiacGXPfan 4 роки тому

      if you built cars that only appealed to pimps and geriatrics, you'd be ashamed of yourself too

  • @judeau9151
    @judeau9151 4 роки тому

    this might be the best car review I’ve ever seen

  • @erikn.7540
    @erikn.7540 4 роки тому +1

    A few years ago I got to drive this at a Cadillac event in NYC - the driving instructor told me to floor it. And it was glorious.

  • @gordonfreeman42
    @gordonfreeman42 4 роки тому +6

    Or...instead of the Chevelle, GM could have used the Grand National name.

  • @djsonicc
    @djsonicc 4 роки тому +3

    Regardless of the image, this is one very capable car even in stock form.

  • @JowoHD
    @JowoHD 4 роки тому

    now you've said it i can't stop thinking about this as a chevelle, it'd work so well

  • @orionfox4010
    @orionfox4010 4 роки тому +1

    Damn that little opening song I want a full version

  • @hikeskool
    @hikeskool 4 роки тому +4

    Wheels "too big?" Aren't all standard ATS-Vs fitted with (gasp!) eighteen-inch wheels? Blasphemy in this day and age of nineteen-inch standard wheels and twenty-one-inch optional wheels (at an added $3,200 on the website configurator).

  • @MichaelD8393
    @MichaelD8393 4 роки тому +3

    12:11 "C'mon man, *don’t let a Subaru beat you!" Owner takes off!*

  • @film-john
    @film-john 4 роки тому

    The rant in this video made my life. Thank you for this.

  • @BalooUriza
    @BalooUriza 4 роки тому

    I think this is the most serious car review RCR has done in a very long time.

  • @Joyboy13257
    @Joyboy13257 4 роки тому +14

    “This should’ve been a Chevelle!”.....it should have. IT SHOULD HAVE! If GM had imported the SS as a Chevelle and offered all the body levels, then it would’ve sold more

    • @cocodrilo1443
      @cocodrilo1443 4 роки тому +1

      I think Nova would've been more appropriate given the similar dimensions to the Camaro.

    • @Villani_AV
      @Villani_AV 3 роки тому

      Except the Holden commodore was the zeta platform (fifth gen camaro) and the ats is the alpha platform (6th gen camaro) so no it shouldn't have been the chevelle

  • @WingedKuriboh117
    @WingedKuriboh117 4 роки тому +10

    Even when this car was announced I argued with a bunch of people saying that this car should have got the LS7. And I still feel that way to this very day.

    • @RaceboyYT
      @RaceboyYT 4 роки тому +4

      Eric Ashton if you wanted v8 you wanted a ctsv

    • @WingedKuriboh117
      @WingedKuriboh117 4 роки тому

      @@RaceboyYT If I wanted a vehicle with a V8 built on the same Alpha Platform, I would've got a Camaro. But that's not the point.

    • @user-iu2kq7nx8u
      @user-iu2kq7nx8u 4 роки тому +2

      No point for an LS7 beside the sound I'd definitely like myself. Getting minimal gains out of an NA engine is far too expensive, the beauty of boosted engines, cheap gains

    • @jacksmoke3731
      @jacksmoke3731 4 роки тому +3

      @@WingedKuriboh117 but I want to see out of the car, Camaro's are a blind spot with an engine

  • @chrismagnussen4304
    @chrismagnussen4304 4 роки тому

    This is the greatest car review I have ever seen.

  • @firebird890
    @firebird890 4 роки тому +2

    I remember reading the car and driver take on this car, they couldn’t stop singing praises about it, definitely a future classic!

    • @shawnperepelytz6397
      @shawnperepelytz6397 4 роки тому +2

      I have the four door. My kids have never complained about the rear seats and we love the car. 🏁