Disclaimer on the track event, 90% of this video took place before this pandemic thing. For a more detailed breakdown of times, check out our Fast List online >>> bit.ly/thefastlist
quadir reed it was so damn expensive when it hit the streets. i wanted one so bad, but wasn’t in price budget. Sad to see it not do so well in sales, too. Have one now though.
@@jeremyjune7002 That's dope bro..... The fact that you can find one.... Is mine blowing to me, I was looking for one too but like I said they're hella hard too find.... So I settled for a 2014 Chevy SS.... And I'm not complaining...lol
It was over priced is right. The Jump from the previous year models was substantial. The Higher price wasn't justified is my opinion so the buyers were not there. Right now this over price shows, as a Used ATSV can be had in the 30K range. Driving the thing off the lot and it was 20K loss, another indication the car was over priced. If Fully loaded price was 58K, they would have sold very well. Of course Im glad they didn't as the car is somewhat rare. I have one, and its a great car, with the manual transmission its rare and a great car.
Correct, even based off of the debut of the ATS's initial chassis, it would have just turned 7 years old. The ATS-V is on a different variant of the Alpha chassis that is over 25% stiffer, as well as other changes to it. Really the ATS-V architecture is more like 4 years old, same chassis on the ZL1 and the V3 is on an extended version of it.
aftermarket strut tower bar / Eibach sway bars / tie bars = my base Alpha is stiffer but since you can put that stuff on an ATS-V I guess my point is moot
Man, I almost forgot these guys existed. All the spotlight gets taken by the CTS-V. Honestly this car kind of reminds me of the old gen 2 CTS-V Coupes. Nice track shots.
I would agree except i hate the angle of the rear lights and the placement of the exhaust in the Gen 2 cts-v coupe. If Cadillac would've used the rear from the sedan when designing the coupe, it would look 10 times better and probably would've sold at least a third more units then they did
@@iraqifoodcart8447 I have a gen 2 cts-v coupe. It's weird because I absolutely love the rear end and exhaust placement, but I know a lot of people who don't.
I close friend of mine just bought a used one of these and it’s faster than most right out of the box. It’s a duel threat as it still rides like a Cadillac around town.
I bought a 2017 ATS-V with 6spd sedan in Radiant Silver and absolutely LOVE IT! I believe only 130 were made in 2017 and I fall even lower in the number range considering mine is a 6spd, a rare unicorn indeed!
@@brad5349 yeah he fucked up. A 2013 ATS started selling in late 2012, so best-case scenario the platform is almost eight years old. Sort of a stretch, especially when continually comparing it to the F80 mx, a car the ATS-V routinely outperformed in reviews.
Very nice video. I'm a proud owner of a white Cadillac Ats-v full package with Trifecta tune since 3 years now. I bought this Cadillac brand new to go on the track all summer long. I can tell you this is a very competitive track car. Power, suspension, brakes and God.. this chassis, this can handle hardcore turns pretty well. About the look, I'M getting thumbs up all the time even these days. Maybe because of the color. Personally, white color with all the black carbon fiber everywhere it looks pretty badass. With all my regular friends at the tracks, Porsche's guys are generally not in the game in the straight and guest what... In the turns they just don't believe it! With this chassis, it is very well balanced. I always been an European track car fan boy.. but now my heart is with Cadillac for now. In terms of track capacities, it is pretty hard to challenge with comparative budget.
@Mitnick - I've been debating about getting the Trifecta tune. I have a ATSV MY16 with an automatic. How do you like the tune? Was there a noticable difference? Thanks!
@@kevinpatel846 I have the exact same car as you. Same year, same 8 speed transmission. Don't wait. Just do it. It isn't the same car. The car turns into a beast. 20 psi when you floor the gas pedal.. combined with the better shifting maping from the tune you won't regret it. You will get 600hp on the crank = 506 wheel hp Dyno tested. You'll get 11.45 on quarter mile instead ok 12.1. just do it you won't regret it
@@mitnickmitnick1378 Wow that's very impressive! Mine still has certified warranty on it til 2022. Will I risk losing the warranty? I really appreciate the reply and feedback. Thanks again!
I had a 2016 atsv sedan black on black fully loaded with carbon package and Recaro 6spd manual. I loved the car and I've driven it compared to an m3 and preferred this over the m3. The handling was tighter and just felt better. It's very underestimated and now they are a steal in the used segment.
Honest to god if they would have taken this car, put a Buick front end on it, rwd, with the twin turbo and called it a Buick Regal grand National... it would’ve sold like hell
Traded in an Audi S8 4.0 T for an ATS-V. The S8 was a beast, and had stuff that I miss (massage seats and window screens mostly), but ultimately it was boring. The ATS-V (6MT) put the smile back on my face!
@phillip3415 lol...from a dig or even from a roll, the S8 was make you giggle fast. No question. Luxurious? No question. Ultimately though, there was no skill involved. Just plant your foot and go. Steering? For a large car, it was decent, but not something you are going to toss around, let alone track as the costs of brakes and tires alone would need a serious budget. The V on the other hand, 100% engaging with the Alpha chassis dialed in, a great clutch and 6MT, and with a thought, able to do things the S8 could only dream of. With just a short list of mods it was just as quick too....not as gut wrenching off the line for sure, but easily able to get into high 10's if that your goal.
I agree. They've had some badass cars over the years that they do limited production and never show the true capabilities. I've been talking about this for a while now but the turbo cobalt was WAY ahead of it's time. In 08 my buddies put down 326WHP and 389WTQ with just an intake, downpipe, and tune. There are so many cars that are just now getting into that ballpark that people are so excited about (GTI, Civic Type R, etc.) Same goes for so many other cars, SS 1LE is another good one. The facelift they recently did ruined that car though. Bah. GM.
This is one of the most unrated car Chanel on UA-cam. The quality it's absolutely amazing thanking about video and audio. Keep up the good work and for sure the canal will grow! I am subscribed without any doubts!
I drove my buddies 2017 ats-v and it is the best handling sedan I've ever driven and that includes BMW and my beloved Mercedes. I was in the market for a CTS-V coupe but no more. With those bolt ons my buddies is making $574 wheel horsepower and I've never driven a car as responsive as that in a small sedan. It handles unbelievable. One of my favorite American cars ever. I love Cadillac and own a couple of them but this is one Daddy has to put in the garage. You can drive this thing across the United States and back and you will feel no cramping no tiredness the seats are plush and to me The styling is endless. I'm going to get one and it will be the last internal combustion car I ever purchase. Fantastic vehicle handles like a dream
I just picked up a 2016 sedan, manual transmission. I'm completely blown away by the entire driving experience of this car. And Oh my god, the transmission is by far the best I've ever shifted.
I was originally looking at the M4. That search brought me to the ATS-V, which then brought me to the 6th gen Camaro SS, which I think is a better driver's car. NA small block, Alpha platform, Mag Ride for $20k less, half of which I put into performance mods. GM killed it with this platform. Too bad no one bought em...
I was waiting for you to do a Cadillac video, worth the wait. ATS-V is kinda like that luxury sleeper. Pretty exterior, too bad no one is paying attention. The interior, especially the gauge cluster, was a let down. If I would to get a performance V6, the CTS VSport Premium Luxury with a digital display or just end up with the CTS-V. CTS-V in the future?
It’s been a long time coming. Frankly, I was hoping it’d be the CTS-V but the powertrain is so similar to my Z06 that I probably would’ve been a little underwhelmed. I do love the way the current CTS-V looks though. Cadillac has been stepping it up with their design language lately.
It didn’t sell well because it has the wrong badge. If you slapped BMW badges on this beauty it would have sold out. It’s not the performance, most people that buy a $70K sedan with this kind of performance will never push it past 50% of its limit. (Thank God) You gotta have a “better” car than your neighbours, and a that badge won’t cut it...
I own a 2018 ATS-V Manual in Vector Metallic blue. I will only own Cadillac V from now on. This car is a beast and fun to drive. The new 2021 V body style doesnt even compare. Not aggressive
I drove one exactly like this which was tuned by HP tuners. It actually sounds 100x better in person and is extremely quick. I drove a manual and it was an experience.
hikeskool my bad man. I used to work at an auction and I used to mess around with all kinds of high performance cars. This particular ats v was the first one I’ve seen and it had hp tuners on the side window. I’m guessing it was a repo. Sick car though thanks for explaining it to me 👍🏻
I think they were just under marketed. I didn't even know the ATS-V existed until I was sitting in a Cadillac dealership one day, searching for a Gen 2 CTS-V I could maybe buy lol. The kicker was that the Gen 3 CTS-V that had recently come out was an automatic transmission only, however I discovered watching their marketing TV in the lobby that day that the ATS-V, which they released at the same time, came in an optional 6-speed, as a 189mph top speed track monster, little sister to the CTS-V, and absolutely gorgeous with 4 doors. I fell in love... 😊 3 months later, I finally bought my ATS-V from a dealership in Texas and never regretted a moment of it! I got a 2016 Sedan in Phantom Grey Metallic, 6-Speed, with every factory option. She's my baby, up to 35k miles now, I hope she continues to be a collectable and sought-after vehicle!
Awesome video as usual! Just one note: the stock base M4 is under-"rated" at 430-ish at the crank by bmw, but its very well known thru dynos/forums that the actual stock hp number is 460 at the crank.
it didn't sell because of the segment it's in, status, and brand reputation. nobody considers it. German luxury and sports car car buyers are going to buy more German cars, they are loyal, to a fault even. they aren't cross shopping and test driving Cadillac. I bought an M2 a couple of years ago and I test drove an ATS-V - I was blown away to see how no other m2 owners had even considered the ats-v, at all, not even a blip on their radar. It's sad, it's a great car.
I got a M2 as well, but considered the ATS-V. Passed on the ATS-V because I decided to get automatic and preferred the M2’s DCT over the ATS-V’s auto. But still, although I passed on the ATS-V, I respect Cadillac’s V division and I agree it’s one of the most underrated American cars ever produced.
@@droppinbaumsabsolutely! I'd be more wary of drag racing or taking it on a road course, but you can do those too. Just understand that if you break something, it could cost you out of pocket... @Mike Hertz yes, an auto... Would have bought it out if it were a manual, but too many issues with the auto at the time. There seems to be a reliable fix for the issues now, so I wouldn't let it stop you from making a move on an auto if the right one came up.
@@thisismagacountry1318 I love how you watch a random compilation of driving clips and assume that's how I ran all day lmao. The majority of the clips were shot in the morning when I was still learning the track.
The Alpha Platform is only 7 years old, and the cars on this platform still do plenty well. The 6th gen Camaro vs 5th gen is absolute night and day difference.
I have a 3.6 na Awd & I love to drive it. My kids do too apparently. Wish I had a V. Always looking to own 1. I’ll add some bolt ons. It has been reliable. My son had a m2 with mods & it was sick ! Just sold it. I’ll keep my caddie !
I've liked the ATS V since it came out. Not a fan of the regular ATS but this chassis and the manual make it great fun. Its a hard pick between it and the Chevy SS for the price now.
@Lord Xenu ya I am looking as they are mid 30 to 40k for both which is great for the money. I am also looking at a used RS5 so I can get a APR stage 2 on the new 2.9L twin turbo car.
@Lord Xenu that car is fast I have rode in my buddies and it hauls ass. I want a RS6 since its in the states now. I just can't afford it since I bought a new SUV for the wife and a 3500 this year. So I think its going to be ATS V Manual or the RS5 as the SS is great but it is my third place option. Any of those are a win. I was looking at a S6 or S7 a few years ago but decided to get a truck and a smaller car instead. Whatever I get is a 2 year car since I want a C8 Z06 or a Viper with a Cam, Tune and Exaust in 2022 or sooner. The options are so vast these days its hard to choose.
Love this channel... glad UA-cam recommended to me. I’d love to get my 6th gen E85 ZL1 in your hands to track. 632 whp.... wonder if it would perform near the Z06?
Sold my 2014 ATS 3.6 premium/performance model. Great car! The chassis and suspension work have features that are found in BMWs, add to it the magnetic ride control and it handles really awesome. One of the biggest down falls was the instrument cluster and the CUE (barf). Huge low point for that car.
I have a 2016 atsv and i have transmission issues. Feel like im being rear ended every time it goes from 2 to 3 and sometimes from 3 to 4. Have the owner experience this issue if yes what he did to fix it if no its ok. I had taken my car multiple times they did a trans flush , them 2 visit valve body but is doing it more often now. If the owner can let me know i would really apreciate it bc i love this car. It only does it while cruising
Had the issue on mine... Several trans flushes helped, but didn't completely alleviate the issue... I've read that there was a TSB in 2016 to replace a solenoid in the trans, but I couldn't get the dealership to do it. After the third or fourth flush, it would be a couple thousand miles between occurrences. One of the reasons I didn't buy it out of lease. The other was that the buy out price was more than $10k over what an off lease car was selling for with similar mileage. If I had the opportunity to buy one right now, I'd never even consider the auto.
Yeah sadly i have the automatic. They never fix it. I mean i still having the same issue i guess i just have to live with it but if i had the chance i would take this car for another one in the future
bro I had the AWD sedan and it was dope too but noq I drive a RWD 2.0t coupe and fr driving is becoming extremely fun again like when I firat got my license bonus points for learning to control the transmission in sequential manual mode
suspension is the most important strut bar first then sway bars and tie bars in that order followed by mono coil struts and if you don't have the posi diff rear consider it but hard very hard to find used and costs over $1400 USD brand new
Yeah, I'll give you a 4.5 out of 5.0. For a "Quicky Clip" video, I enjoyed it. This Caddy is definitely understated. GM was attempting to market a semi - luxury vehicle that was not as high end as the XTS but not as standard as a CTS. The 2015 ATS was limited production to test the sales water. Remember Lucifer's SUV - the Envoy XUV ??
the secret sauce is the 6 speed auto in 2015 models because it can handle waaaay more than the max torque figures they claimed for the 6l45 .. in 2016 they dropped it for the 8 speed which supposedly sucks. manual would be fun too but with any extra power the clutch would get it's ass kicked like it lived in 90's Japan
I’m late but I’m here. Felix is currently blowing up my IG DMs so I’ll get to him after this. I like the lowered stance of this one, looks nice. Not a fan of Cadillac honestly, design is old Alright Peter lets get this show on the road Not a bad sound, I like how deep it is Manual option? Shit this isn’t bad 3,800 lbs with a V6? That’s not bad Takes a bit to get going but seems like she is able to do so 1:30 time to beat, alright Peter I don’t like the interior of these, looks way too much like an SUV inside That’s an interesting exhaust note Handles well Brakes seem to be a bit behind but not by much Understeer? Am I seeing this correctly? Alright let’s see straight line pull Damn this thing is pretty fast for a RWD car I like the lotus in the background 1:35, not bad! Oh man rip to the data 60-130 lets see it 8.15 is pretty good! Entry level supercar, this is pretty cool. And yeah there aren’t many of them, but I’ve still seen more of these than TTRS’s. It never sold well because it was underrated like the TTRS is. Sad and tragic Nice video, was interesting to see this car, never really knew there was this much to it. I still wouldn’t buy it with that interior though, it’s honestly super underwhelming, but all else looks nice, performs well. Sorry to be so late
@@noblevengeance312 would you believe me if I said it was faster now and can probably jump into the mid 7s for 60-130? 😬 Also it can give more than a 1.35 on NJMP I just couldn't extract it on my first day there.
@ Noble Vigilance RS All good bro. I’m late here as well. No biggie, been pretty busy this past few days. Overall the car is definitely in the underrated department as not many people, myself included knew much about it until I really read up on it. It just never crossed my mind as a performance option since Cadillac’s generally haven’t been too good on that front except with the CTS-V. I’m hoping to schedule that TTRS vid soon btw. Fingers crossed.
I have a performance edition 2.0t ATS4 I have hit 0-60 4.76 average over 10ish pulls with brake boosting without brake boosting it’s around 6ish I keep up with the new 2022 ecoboost mustangs in a car that almost 10yrs old…..Cadillac ages well when taken care of and all the interior stuff is interchangeable from years and even stuff from the CTS like the all digital dash cluster swap right over
As good as this car looks, I really don't like how it sounds. Yeah it sounds better than the M4, but in my opinion, this would've been much nicer with a twin turbo I6 or an NA version of the CTS-V V8.
@@exquisiteart6478 yea. I guess technically, yes.... but I like to just count whatever adds performance or makes a difference in performance as usual bolt ons
I just picked up a CTS-Vsport which has a very similar motor (LF3 VS the LF4 in the ATS-V) I'd love to get it over 500whp but noone has really done it with the LF3 because they are so rare. Very few bolt-on's for my car compared to the already sparse modifications available for the ATS-V. Fantastic cars either way, thank you for the breakdown!
@@hikeskool Yes. I am aware of how google functions. I was saying how there are not alot of bolt-ons available for my car implying that to get over 500whp I'll likely need to do some custom work.
I saw this in another video about this car, but some things that could have made this car sell better? Square off the styling, murder everything out, slap a Buick badge on it, and it could have EASILY been a modern Grand National.
These are such under appreciated cars especially with the 6 speed manual. Yes the interior isn’t class leading. But they are amazing drivers cars. If what you care about is a car that is fun to drive with a chassis that talks to you and involves you in the driving experience you simply cannot do better in this segment. Part of the beauty too is that they don’t need any mods to be fast and work well either. The stock motor makes good power, the stock brakes are very good and the chassis tune out of the box is excellent for street and track. As for the video it was interesting but the hot lap was so chopped up as to be incoherent. It felt like random shots with random sound spliced together randomly . It never felt like I was watching a hot lap.
The gauges are really the only downside of the interior. Everything else looks and feels great. The real problem on why it had slow sells is that $70k price tag.
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Disclaimer on the track event, 90% of this video took place before this pandemic thing.
For a more detailed breakdown of times, check out our Fast List online >>> bit.ly/thefastlist
What Pandemic?
Wow!
Off topic can u tell me what size wheels u went with on your zo6 I’m not sure what size to go with n yours look pretty good prob even better in person
Suggestion: Try getting a bone stock C6 ZR1 and roll racing it against a bone stock LP610-4 Coupe to see which one is faster
@@thisismagacountry1318 the bubonic plague
I'm still blown away as to how poorly this little car did in sales...... That little Cadillac is a straight beast
quadir reed it was so damn expensive when it hit the streets. i wanted one so bad, but wasn’t in price budget. Sad to see it not do so well in sales, too. Have one now though.
@@jeremyjune7002 That's dope bro..... The fact that you can find one.... Is mine blowing to me, I was looking for one too but like I said they're hella hard too find.... So I settled for a 2014 Chevy SS.... And I'm not complaining...lol
Everyone is so hung up on m3/m4 and hate Howmuch better the v actually is
It was over priced is right. The Jump from the previous year models was substantial. The Higher price wasn't justified is my opinion so the buyers were not there. Right now this over price shows, as a Used ATSV can be had in the 30K range. Driving the thing off the lot and it was 20K loss, another indication the car was over priced. If Fully loaded price was 58K, they would have sold very well.
Of course Im glad they didn't as the car is somewhat rare. I have one, and its a great car, with the manual transmission its rare and a great car.
I had 2 of them.. I wrecked 1. And got another one. I have a love and hate relationship with it. But still it is my baby.
The ATS-V's Alpha platform came out in 2016 it is the same as the 6th gen camaro, it is NOT a 10 year old architecture!!
Correct, even based off of the debut of the ATS's initial chassis, it would have just turned 7 years old. The ATS-V is on a different variant of the Alpha chassis that is over 25% stiffer, as well as other changes to it. Really the ATS-V architecture is more like 4 years old, same chassis on the ZL1 and the V3 is on an extended version of it.
Chassis outdated? No. Body style? Yes, they don't age well.
aftermarket strut tower bar / Eibach sway bars / tie bars = my base Alpha is stiffer
but since you can put that stuff on an ATS-V I guess my point is moot
Alpha platform was new in 2013. I have a 2013 Ats lfx awd and am surprised the v model weighs about 200 lbs more than my awd.
@@thynysan in your eyes maybe! Lol
Man, I almost forgot these guys existed. All the spotlight gets taken by the CTS-V. Honestly this car kind of reminds me of the old gen 2 CTS-V Coupes. Nice track shots.
I would agree except i hate the angle of the rear lights and the placement of the exhaust in the Gen 2 cts-v coupe. If Cadillac would've used the rear from the sedan when designing the coupe, it would look 10 times better and probably would've sold at least a third more units then they did
@@iraqifoodcart8447 I have a gen 2 cts-v coupe. It's weird because I absolutely love the rear end and exhaust placement, but I know a lot of people who don't.
Gen 2 CTSv coupe is one of Cadillac's greatest design. Too many used one's out there for sale that wasn't taken care of or crazy high mileage.
Coming from a M4 owner, this thing sounds so much better
You should hear it without cats.... I had it race cat DPs on at the time. Have a catless setup now
Yupp alot better
German car match better 😉
@@SteshMM2 vacuum cleaner lol
@@SteshMM2 M4 sounds like crap by comparison sorry not sorry. Someone in the comments already agreed
Wasn't marketed well. And sadly I disagree about Cadillacs aging. But that's why I liked this video
People bitched about CUE and the dash. It's valid criticism.
@@hikeskool that dash sucks. I've seen the ctsv3 gauge cluster installed the atsv and it looked cool
Yeah the cue sucks but the car is excellent and if you don’t like the cue change the deck to a Tesla one
the ATS is actually larger than a 3 series
I close friend of mine just bought a used one of these and it’s faster than most right out of the box. It’s a duel threat as it still rides like a Cadillac around town.
Such a great daily that gets 30mpg and then is a joy on track 🤘🏻
Why I bought one.
I bought a 2017 ATS-V with 6spd sedan in Radiant Silver and absolutely LOVE IT! I believe only 130 were made in 2017 and I fall even lower in the number range considering mine is a 6spd, a rare unicorn indeed!
wow only 4500 made.... future classic? that color tho
Similar to Cts-V1 sales edit: oh V1 where ~4-5k per year, not total
4500 made nd nobody bought. Yeah it'll be worth big money eventually
Wow... 4~5k world wide? ... Probably in Us ?
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. Been debating on trading mine for a C7 Z06
VBM Vector Blue Metallic
Glad you got a Cadillac on the show and a good one to test at that! Good footage too. Keep it up.
Btw, the reason for lack of body roll: Magride suspension.
I don't know about the chassis showing its age seeing how the current gen camaro is also on the same platform.
Also thought that statement was a bit weird considering all the praise this platform always gets
He said it was 10 years old? this chassis didn't come out until 2016
@@brad5349 technically the alpha chassis came out in 2013 for the base ATS. The V chassis (later used in the V3 and camaro) came out in 2016 though
@@brad5349 yeah he fucked up. A 2013 ATS started selling in late 2012, so best-case scenario the platform is almost eight years old. Sort of a stretch, especially when continually comparing it to the F80 mx, a car the ATS-V routinely outperformed in reviews.
Yet people still pay 40,000 plus for a car with an interior older than the first iphone (looking at you 370z)
Very nice video. I'm a proud owner of a white Cadillac Ats-v full package with Trifecta tune since 3 years now. I bought this Cadillac brand new to go on the track all summer long. I can tell you this is a very competitive track car. Power, suspension, brakes and God.. this chassis, this can handle hardcore turns pretty well. About the look, I'M getting thumbs up all the time even these days. Maybe because of the color. Personally, white color with all the black carbon fiber everywhere it looks pretty badass. With all my regular friends at the tracks, Porsche's guys are generally not in the game in the straight and guest what... In the turns they just don't believe it! With this chassis, it is very well balanced. I always been an European track car fan boy.. but now my heart is with Cadillac for now. In terms of track capacities, it is pretty hard to challenge with comparative budget.
Hey nice tuner 😉
Hell yeah!! Nice tuner
@Mitnick - I've been debating about getting the Trifecta tune. I have a ATSV MY16 with an automatic. How do you like the tune? Was there a noticable difference?
Thanks!
@@kevinpatel846 I have the exact same car as you. Same year, same 8 speed transmission. Don't wait. Just do it. It isn't the same car. The car turns into a beast. 20 psi when you floor the gas pedal.. combined with the better shifting maping from the tune you won't regret it. You will get 600hp on the crank = 506 wheel hp Dyno tested. You'll get 11.45 on quarter mile instead ok 12.1. just do it you won't regret it
@@mitnickmitnick1378 Wow that's very impressive! Mine still has certified warranty on it til 2022. Will I risk losing the warranty? I really appreciate the reply and feedback. Thanks again!
I had a 2016 atsv sedan black on black fully loaded with carbon package and Recaro 6spd manual. I loved the car and I've driven it compared to an m3 and preferred this over the m3. The handling was tighter and just felt better. It's very underestimated and now they are a steal in the used segment.
Honest to god if they would have taken this car, put a Buick front end on it, rwd, with the twin turbo and called it a Buick Regal grand National... it would’ve sold like hell
My 16 ATSV is awesome. The balance is stunning
Traded in an Audi S8 4.0 T for an ATS-V. The S8 was a beast, and had stuff that I miss (massage seats and window screens mostly), but ultimately it was boring. The ATS-V (6MT) put the smile back on my face!
Looking at purchasing a S8 glad to see this comment..fast but boring cars? Lol
@phillip3415 lol...from a dig or even from a roll, the S8 was make you giggle fast. No question. Luxurious? No question. Ultimately though, there was no skill involved. Just plant your foot and go. Steering? For a large car, it was decent, but not something you are going to toss around, let alone track as the costs of brakes and tires alone would need a serious budget. The V on the other hand, 100% engaging with the Alpha chassis dialed in, a great clutch and 6MT, and with a thought, able to do things the S8 could only dream of. With just a short list of mods it was just as quick too....not as gut wrenching off the line for sure, but easily able to get into high 10's if that your goal.
“This is mike but his real name is Peter” what kinda fake news is that 😂😂
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Everyone tries to hide their Peter I guess.
This is a car that you have to drive to truly appreciate how great it is.
Best car channel out there. I hope you gain tons of subscribers soon, don't ever change your style!
Definitely a hidden gem. GM vehicle’s literally sell themselves. Build up and marketing are the worst.
I agree. They've had some badass cars over the years that they do limited production and never show the true capabilities. I've been talking about this for a while now but the turbo cobalt was WAY ahead of it's time. In 08 my buddies put down 326WHP and 389WTQ with just an intake, downpipe, and tune. There are so many cars that are just now getting into that ballpark that people are so excited about (GTI, Civic Type R, etc.)
Same goes for so many other cars, SS 1LE is another good one. The facelift they recently did ruined that car though. Bah. GM.
Is that why GM has taken two bailouts so far? I agree that the engineers know what they're doing. From a business standpoint, GM is a shitshow.
Its one of the best handling cars out there so not so sure about the aging platform?
Also sounds way better then any BMW nowadays
Yeah it's really only like 4 years old for the V specific chassis. 7 years for the whole alpha chassis
he doesnt even mention it has mag ride and thats one of the reasons it handles so well - what a wanker
This is one of the most unrated car Chanel on UA-cam. The quality it's absolutely amazing thanking about video and audio. Keep up the good work and for sure the canal will grow! I am subscribed without any doubts!
This is the very 1st video I watched from you. Very well done Sir! Your camera skills really stood out and it made me hit the sub + like button
I owned the 04 V and always loved these cars. This little fella with those bolt ons can do the boogie
this guy down the street has a white ats v and I always thumbs up him but I think he gets it haha
I drove my buddies 2017 ats-v and it is the best handling sedan I've ever driven and that includes BMW and my beloved Mercedes. I was in the market for a CTS-V coupe but no more. With those bolt ons my buddies is making $574 wheel horsepower and I've never driven a car as responsive as that in a small sedan. It handles unbelievable. One of my favorite American cars ever. I love Cadillac and own a couple of them but this is one Daddy has to put in the garage. You can drive this thing across the United States and back and you will feel no cramping no tiredness the seats are plush and to me The styling is endless. I'm going to get one and it will be the last internal combustion car I ever purchase. Fantastic vehicle handles like a dream
"This is Mike, but his name is really Peter",...
Witness Protection is now scrambling for reassignment.
Michael Pityk is his name.
i think i was behind this guy at the Nürburgring got hit straight in the middle of the windsheild with a 10mm socket ! must of been on the track.
I just picked up a 2016 sedan, manual transmission. I'm completely blown away by the entire driving experience of this car. And Oh my god, the transmission is by far the best I've ever shifted.
I was originally looking at the M4. That search brought me to the ATS-V, which then brought me to the 6th gen Camaro SS, which I think is a better driver's car. NA small block, Alpha platform, Mag Ride for $20k less, half of which I put into performance mods. GM killed it with this platform. Too bad no one bought em...
Love a lot the Cadillac line up just for the record... definitely this ats does a very fine job.
I was just talking with a friend about ATS-Vs the other day. Cool cars! 🚀
Always hated the gauge cluster
yeah it looks cheap and tacky, my base ATS coupe has a better looking cluster 😂
I was waiting for you to do a Cadillac video, worth the wait. ATS-V is kinda like that luxury sleeper. Pretty exterior, too bad no one is paying attention. The interior, especially the gauge cluster, was a let down. If I would to get a performance V6, the CTS VSport Premium Luxury with a digital display or just end up with the CTS-V. CTS-V in the future?
It’s been a long time coming. Frankly, I was hoping it’d be the CTS-V but the powertrain is so similar to my Z06 that I probably would’ve been a little underwhelmed. I do love the way the current CTS-V looks though. Cadillac has been stepping it up with their design language lately.
Interior huge let down but the rest of the car is kool agreed
V-Sport Premiums are tough to find. Nice cars though.
@@nookroot890 plain not good enough needs more for the price
It didn’t sell well because it has the wrong badge.
If you slapped BMW badges on this beauty it would have sold out.
It’s not the performance, most people that buy a $70K sedan with this kind of performance will never push it past 50% of its limit. (Thank God)
You gotta have a “better” car than your neighbours, and a that badge won’t cut it...
My car makes a cameo at 0:34! :) nice vid!
Yanbags nice Camaro! Do you have an Insta account?
John Daniels yes - @yanbags not an awful lot of camaro content but it's there a bit 🏎💨
Yanbags No problem! I’ll give you a follow!
I own a 2018 ATS-V Manual in Vector Metallic blue. I will only own Cadillac V from now on. This car is a beast and fun to drive. The new 2021 V body style doesnt even compare. Not aggressive
I drove one exactly like this which was tuned by HP tuners. It actually sounds 100x better in person and is extremely quick. I drove a manual and it was an experience.
HP Tuners is software. That's like saying "was tuned by Windows 10."
Who tuned it/which tune is it?
hikeskool my bad man. I used to work at an auction and I used to mess around with all kinds of high performance cars. This particular ats v was the first one I’ve seen and it had hp tuners on the side window. I’m guessing it was a repo. Sick car though thanks for explaining it to me 👍🏻
My wife daily’s a 2014 CTS-V wagon. I really dig the ATS-V also, lots of potential with that chassis.
Caddy was on a good path that they should have stayed on BUT its over now they Messed up the whole line-up !
Thanks to the woman running the place
@@MeltingRubberZ28 yeah true but WHO put her in charge?
The Blackwing Vs are going to be dope af
@@chrismagnussen4304 yeah But 100k dope?
Derek Anderson heck no! But I’ll be looking for a CPO car once it comes off lease 👍
I think they were just under marketed. I didn't even know the ATS-V existed until I was sitting in a Cadillac dealership one day, searching for a Gen 2 CTS-V I could maybe buy lol. The kicker was that the Gen 3 CTS-V that had recently come out was an automatic transmission only, however I discovered watching their marketing TV in the lobby that day that the ATS-V, which they released at the same time, came in an optional 6-speed, as a 189mph top speed track monster, little sister to the CTS-V, and absolutely gorgeous with 4 doors. I fell in love... 😊
3 months later, I finally bought my ATS-V from a dealership in Texas and never regretted a moment of it! I got a 2016 Sedan in Phantom Grey Metallic, 6-Speed, with every factory option. She's my baby, up to 35k miles now, I hope she continues to be a collectable and sought-after vehicle!
My favorite channel! Amazing video! Great review!
Awesome video as usual!
Just one note: the stock base M4 is under-"rated" at 430-ish at the crank by bmw, but its very well known thru dynos/forums that the actual stock hp number is 460 at the crank.
Doesn't really matter...they still get ate up the same.
@@pierogiguy ate up?
it didn't sell because of the segment it's in, status, and brand reputation. nobody considers it. German luxury and sports car car buyers are going to buy more German cars, they are loyal, to a fault even. they aren't cross shopping and test driving Cadillac. I bought an M2 a couple of years ago and I test drove an ATS-V - I was blown away to see how no other m2 owners had even considered the ats-v, at all, not even a blip on their radar. It's sad, it's a great car.
I got a M2 as well, but considered the ATS-V. Passed on the ATS-V because I decided to get automatic and preferred the M2’s DCT over the ATS-V’s auto.
But still, although I passed on the ATS-V, I respect Cadillac’s V division and I agree it’s one of the most underrated American cars ever produced.
I leased one for 3 years, fantastic car! Autocrossed it several times!
I'd happily buy one out right.
Automatic?
bro u look like no neck ed + Leo Dicaprio in ypur dp 😂😂😂
You can auto cross a lease?
@@droppinbaumsabsolutely! I'd be more wary of drag racing or taking it on a road course, but you can do those too. Just understand that if you break something, it could cost you out of pocket...
@Mike Hertz yes, an auto... Would have bought it out if it were a manual, but too many issues with the auto at the time. There seems to be a reliable fix for the issues now, so I wouldn't let it stop you from making a move on an auto if the right one came up.
Great vids as always!
I have the old 3800 V6 and it only makes 400whp check out my dyno. But its amazing how much power these cars are making today. Great video🔥🔥🔥
What size rims & tire set up
Awesome production quality .great stuff 👍
That guy can't drive, you don't brake in a corner... You don't get on it once you are strait... He's just learning the car.
*Learning the track*
You cut the apex and accelerate before the curve finishes unwinding. Noobs,...
@@thisismagacountry1318 I love how you watch a random compilation of driving clips and assume that's how I ran all day lmao. The majority of the clips were shot in the morning when I was still learning the track.
Honestly it was pretty cringey. If you're gonna go to the effort of filming, put in the effort.
@@Pityk24 Hey man what are your tire and wheel specs??
The Alpha Platform is only 7 years old, and the cars on this platform still do plenty well. The 6th gen Camaro vs 5th gen is absolute night and day difference.
I love my 2016 ATS-V. I'll be handing it off to Tapout Tuning to take it the level that Cadillac should have done for this being a V.
Marketing is what killed this car, I'm definitely gonna own one in 2021 can't wait
Geez, that 60-130mph time is pretty impressive, actually. I really like these ATS V's, they punch above their weight.
It's quite slow compared to the car now, this was a relatively conservative Trifecta 93 tune for road course use like 3+ years ago
If only they put the 10 speeds in these
missed a chance to get one for cheap a few months ago and still not over it
#metoo
how's bankruptcy going fam ??
GodlessMartyr666 huh
@@GodlessMartyr666 I've never made more money. Thanks for asking
This thing should be doing 6 sec 60-130s with those mods that guy needs a new tuner
Mike, but his real name is Peter!
The video gives a positive and unbiased review on ATS-V. My impression about this car is that it sells well in China.
I have a 3.6 na Awd & I love to drive it. My kids do too apparently. Wish I had a V. Always looking to own 1. I’ll add some bolt ons. It has been reliable. My son had a m2 with mods & it was sick ! Just sold it. I’ll keep my caddie !
I've liked the ATS V since it came out. Not a fan of the regular ATS but this chassis and the manual make it great fun. Its a hard pick between it and the Chevy SS for the price now.
@Lord Xenu ya I am looking as they are mid 30 to 40k for both which is great for the money. I am also looking at a used RS5 so I can get a APR stage 2 on the new 2.9L twin turbo car.
@Lord Xenu that car is fast I have rode in my buddies and it hauls ass. I want a RS6 since its in the states now. I just can't afford it since I bought a new SUV for the wife and a 3500 this year. So I think its going to be ATS V Manual or the RS5 as the SS is great but it is my third place option. Any of those are a win. I was looking at a S6 or S7 a few years ago but decided to get a truck and a smaller car instead. Whatever I get is a 2 year car since I want a C8 Z06 or a Viper with a Cam, Tune and Exaust in 2022 or sooner. The options are so vast these days its hard to choose.
Well the production years are 16-19 and there are only 4,163 made for 3 years. With only 730 manuals and 3,433 autos
Love this channel... glad UA-cam recommended to me. I’d love to get my 6th gen E85 ZL1 in your hands to track. 632 whp.... wonder if it would perform near the Z06?
What happens when you take out the V8 6.2 from a Camaro and put in a 3.6 V6 twin turbo ? A Cadillac !
You can thank the base ATS for the modified alpha chassis that's found in the V and the Camaro ZL1
strut bars / sway bars / tie bars / mono coilovers = base ATS becomes a true handling monster (especially in 2.0t form)
Great stuff!
Dope video bro. Keep it up.
Schmidty tune and ur set
Quality vid as always. Ty
10 yr old architecture??? Uh, no this is the alpha platform. The ATS-V sedan is the best handling 4 door on the planet
Yeah. And in fact the ATS was the first car in production on the Alpha platform.
Who says nobody brought this car. I see them All the time where I am from.
Sold my 2014 ATS 3.6 premium/performance model. Great car! The chassis and suspension work have features that are found in BMWs, add to it the magnetic ride control and it handles really awesome. One of the biggest down falls was the instrument cluster and the CUE (barf). Huge low point for that car.
That can now be upgraded to the digital CTS cluster!
I have a 2016 atsv and i have transmission issues. Feel like im being rear ended every time it goes from 2 to 3 and sometimes from 3 to 4. Have the owner experience this issue if yes what he did to fix it if no its ok. I had taken my car multiple times they did a trans flush , them 2 visit valve body but is doing it more often now. If the owner can let me know i would really apreciate it bc i love this car. It only does it while cruising
Do you have Manual or the auto???
@@driveri1435 obviously auto
Had the issue on mine... Several trans flushes helped, but didn't completely alleviate the issue... I've read that there was a TSB in 2016 to replace a solenoid in the trans, but I couldn't get the dealership to do it. After the third or fourth flush, it would be a couple thousand miles between occurrences. One of the reasons I didn't buy it out of lease. The other was that the buy out price was more than $10k over what an off lease car was selling for with similar mileage. If I had the opportunity to buy one right now, I'd never even consider the auto.
@@V2_Dre obviously LOL?
Yeah sadly i have the automatic. They never fix it. I mean i still having the same issue i guess i just have to live with it but if i had the chance i would take this car for another one in the future
High quality cinematic!!!!! Yes please
Classy presentation
i just got the 2.0 coupe and its so much fun to drive
bro I had the AWD sedan and it was dope too but noq I drive a RWD 2.0t coupe and fr driving is becoming extremely fun again like when I firat got my license
bonus points for learning to control the transmission in sequential manual mode
Showing its age my ass.
I loved dusting just about everyone with my golf clubs in the trunk of my bolt on 2nd gen CTS-V, car was amazing
I drive an ATS, I regret not getting the V. Thankfully, there are a lot mods available.
suspension is the most important
strut bar first then sway bars and tie bars in that order followed by mono coil struts and if you don't have the posi diff rear consider it but hard very hard to find used and costs over $1400 USD brand new
Yeah, I'll give you a 4.5 out of 5.0. For a "Quicky Clip" video, I enjoyed it. This Caddy is definitely understated. GM was attempting to market a semi - luxury vehicle that was not as high end as the XTS but not as standard as a CTS. The 2015 ATS was limited production to test the sales water. Remember Lucifer's SUV - the Envoy XUV ??
the secret sauce is the 6 speed auto in 2015 models because it can handle waaaay more than the max torque figures they claimed for the 6l45 .. in 2016 they dropped it for the 8 speed which supposedly sucks.
manual would be fun too but with any extra power the clutch would get it's ass kicked like it lived in 90's Japan
I see a new Track Day video, I click.
I've always liked this car and it's a great bargain, but the gauges are atrocious.
I have a base ats 2.0 and it has pretty good power. Get a k&n intake, Renick exhaust, and a zzp tune and it'll roar down the road.
Beautiful color for sure!
Thank you! On instagram @satrn_v if you want to see more of her :)
I’m late but I’m here. Felix is currently blowing up my IG DMs so I’ll get to him after this.
I like the lowered stance of this one, looks nice. Not a fan of Cadillac honestly, design is old
Alright Peter lets get this show on the road
Not a bad sound, I like how deep it is
Manual option? Shit this isn’t bad
3,800 lbs with a V6? That’s not bad
Takes a bit to get going but seems like she is able to do so
1:30 time to beat, alright Peter
I don’t like the interior of these, looks way too much like an SUV inside
That’s an interesting exhaust note
Handles well
Brakes seem to be a bit behind but not by much
Understeer? Am I seeing this correctly?
Alright let’s see straight line pull
Damn this thing is pretty fast for a RWD car
I like the lotus in the background
1:35, not bad!
Oh man rip to the data
60-130 lets see it
8.15 is pretty good!
Entry level supercar, this is pretty cool. And yeah there aren’t many of them, but I’ve still seen more of these than TTRS’s. It never sold well because it was underrated like the TTRS is. Sad and tragic
Nice video, was interesting to see this car, never really knew there was this much to it. I still wouldn’t buy it with that interior though, it’s honestly super underwhelming, but all else looks nice, performs well. Sorry to be so late
Glad we won you over. It's not a perfect car, but it's awesome!
SATRN V 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🔥🔥🔥
@@noblevengeance312 would you believe me if I said it was faster now and can probably jump into the mid 7s for 60-130? 😬 Also it can give more than a 1.35 on NJMP I just couldn't extract it on my first day there.
SATRN V honestly twin turbo V6s are capable of sub 5 second 60-130s when fully built so, I definitely believe you lol
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Noble Vigilance RS All good bro. I’m late here as well. No biggie, been pretty busy this past few days. Overall the car is definitely in the underrated department as not many people, myself included knew much about it until I really read up on it. It just never crossed my mind as a performance option since Cadillac’s generally haven’t been too good on that front except with the CTS-V. I’m hoping to schedule that TTRS vid soon btw. Fingers crossed.
All I know is, it's a beast. I wish more tuners scooped them up they way they did the new supra and gtr's.
What?? That exhaust is sounding NICE
1:15 dirty ah fingernail
Subscribed. Awesome vibe
No man, this IS my grandpa's caddy.
I have a performance edition 2.0t ATS4
I have hit 0-60 4.76 average over 10ish pulls with brake boosting without brake boosting it’s around 6ish
I keep up with the new 2022 ecoboost mustangs in a car that almost 10yrs old…..Cadillac ages well when taken care of and all the interior stuff is interchangeable from years and even stuff from the CTS like the all digital dash cluster swap right over
As good as this car looks, I really don't like how it sounds. Yeah it sounds better than the M4, but in my opinion, this would've been much nicer with a twin turbo I6 or an NA version of the CTS-V V8.
It doesn't sound all that good to me,i actually like i6-S55,N55,N54
it's a track monster, not a muscle car.
weight in the front end is the enemy.
I have one and honestly I race it on the weekends and then the wife takes it to Costco on the week days.
Funny thing is there's so many similarities between this engines twin configuration and the new Z06 lt5
What’s the wheel size and offsets front and rear?
What is fbo on it to be honest. Air box change and DPs?
FBO on a Turbo car is like, Intake, Chargepipe, downpipe, full exhaust, and tune
@@exquisiteart6478 yea. But a tune is a tune. And charge pipe doesn't do anything. So is it FBO and tune?
@@HOVIK750 FBO is ANYTHING YOU BOLT ON, and charge pipes bolt on, therefore it counts as one
@@exquisiteart6478 yea. I guess technically, yes.... but I like to just count whatever adds performance or makes a difference in performance as usual bolt ons
I own 2017 ats v white but i hate how the car shifts the gear
How's the reliability? Any common issues with them?
@@racequad9 everything runs fine just the gears feels like its broken sometime hard to shift
What size tires and rims do you have on your V?
I just picked up a CTS-Vsport which has a very similar motor (LF3 VS the LF4 in the ATS-V) I'd love to get it over 500whp but noone has really done it with the LF3 because they are so rare. Very few bolt-on's for my car compared to the already sparse modifications available for the ATS-V. Fantastic cars either way, thank you for the breakdown!
LF3 you're turbo limited and the transmission provides other limitations. Trifecta Performance has a good tune for the LF3. That's who tunes my car
Trifecta is your best bet. Nice tunes. Corsa and others make exhausts.
Use a search engine.
@@hikeskool Yes. I am aware of how google functions. I was saying how there are not alot of bolt-ons available for my car implying that to get over 500whp I'll likely need to do some custom work.
I saw this in another video about this car, but some things that could have made this car sell better?
Square off the styling, murder everything out, slap a Buick badge on it, and it could have EASILY been a modern Grand National.
I just wanna put a LS in my ATS 2.0 and call it a day 😤
These are such under appreciated cars especially with the 6 speed manual. Yes the interior isn’t class leading. But they are amazing drivers cars. If what you care about is a car that is fun to drive with a chassis that talks to you and involves you in the driving experience you simply cannot do better in this segment. Part of the beauty too is that they don’t need any mods to be fast and work well either. The stock motor makes good power, the stock brakes are very good and the chassis tune out of the box is excellent for street and track. As for the video it was interesting but the hot lap was so chopped up as to be incoherent. It felt like random shots with random sound spliced together randomly . It never felt like I was watching a hot lap.
Atsv never sold well because of horrific interior. It had gauges that looked like it straight came from geo metro.
The gauges are really the only downside of the interior. Everything else looks and feels great. The real problem on why it had slow sells is that $70k price tag.
Elmer Racing sells billet 2.0 4 cylinder race engines for €70,000 so a decent track weapon for $70k USD seems fair