The Blackmagic Box Camera Is OFFICIAL & So Much More!
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00:00 - Intro
00:53 - DaVinci Resolve 19
06:03 - Ursa Cine
13:22 - PYXIS 6K - Розваги
It’s Christmas for us Blackmagic Fan boys 🎉
Christmas came... late? or Early? Who cares Blackmagic rules!
For us* 😂
@@ConstructionKroniesa bit later, but finally haha.
Fanboys, fangirls and fanNBs 😂
I just wished they brought this out at the end of the company tax year not the start xD
the PYXIS will sell like the 4k. An inexpensive run stop handle and a touch control monitor and boom!!
they did the side monitor just to prove to all those box people all these years why the pocket design had to be wide for a reason XD
Haha! 🙂
Internal ND would've been the icing on the cake. Still getting it as soon as I can tho lol
I love that the usb-c ports are locking ports.
I hate this USB c shit
@@whoiam3410make a better open standard. I'm waiting
@@whoiam3410 usb c is for cloud stuff
Totally blown away. Stunned. I think there is no one out there who watched the stream that was expecting this much!
3 things you could ask them about:
-Camera control from Video Assist (Especially important now, so you could rig a VideoAssist on top of the new box camera and use that as control monitor in certain scenarios).
When Portkeys can do it, why not BMD??
-A lower end OVF for like 500€-700€. The new one seems good, but i just need a good enough solution, not a high end cinema quality one that cost nearly as much as the new Box camera. The options on the market are so bad quality/buggy, outdated and or overpriced.
-Adding WIFI to future cameras, so phones can finally be used as wireless monitors.
The URSA Cine 17K camera blew my mind. Now we have three digital cameras that comes close to true IMAX
Yep, with fast lenses and this much dynamic range… it’ll be easy to come close to that IMAX “wide-yet-shallow” looking image.
(the bigger) BP-U batteries can power the FX6 for ~3+ hours - they are no joke. Much nicer than a massive battery hanging off the back of the camera
BP-U batteries are pretty affordable these days, plus they can act as a redundant power when a V-mount is plugged in at the same time.
they can protrude a lot though, my U98 extends like 5 cm outside the body.
@@KPOPPERjp You can use a smaller one and still mount a V mount at the back via 15mm rail.
@@frankfeng2701 I got mine 2nd hand for cheap ($50) so I jumped on that quickly. I still use a v-mount as well for my Ninja V and FX6 if it happens to run low on juice.
I'm quite sure the fx6 is a much lower power camera. But even if we get ~100 mins that would be great
The people working on that box cam mod for the Pocket 6k must be having a bad day....
He actually made a video and was very excited
@@jaysnappsmediallc6680 Cool! Hopefully he didn't invest too much into his own project. I imagine this kills it.
Was thinking the same thing
They have accessed the Pyxis 6k announcement already and the cam mod is going ahead. You have to consider, that the Pyxis is the 6k FF variant. The mod is based on the Super 35 sensor. So it's still viable.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Also they are making them in very limited quantity. It's more so a passion project, not some sort of business venture. So I don't think people could have really expected to buy the camera mod version in any real capacity.
The fixed screen on the side combined with the EVF, means that it's ideal for shoulder rig operation. Just make sure to put on a good screen protector.
Seriously especially if it’s in a bag with other accessories that can bump it or run up against it!
I wouldn't be too disappointed about the 13 stops of dynamic range. Most FF cinema cameras claim higher dynamic range but when put through lab tests that all cut off at 13 stops. Only Arri gets beyond 14. What you're dealing with is the S-curve in regards to highlight roll-off and where middle grey sits.
Even the beloved FX3 has only 12.7 (gerald undone Video) even though they claim it's 15.. So 13 is just fine. :)
Yep, Blackmagic is very conservative in their DR rating. The stops they advertise is usually what you can ACTUALLY get. Other companies use noise-reduction and other pre-processing to advertise an extra 1-2 stops.
@@david_garibaldi this 100%. CineD has done lab tests similar to Geralds that have clocked the FX6 right around 12.6, while the 6K full frame on the same lab test has shown 12.9. DR claims are typically just a gimmick with the exception of ARRI.
Dude.. my 16 steps dr Komodo x‘s dynamic range is a true killer of the 13
@@d_FLDE I’ve used many Reds including Komodo… and even the Pocket 6K was about the same. Red is notorious for overrating DR by 2-3 stops.
They should make a monitor for the PYXIS that would connect to the viewfinder port in the front - that would solve multiple issues raised here and in the comments (expensive EVF, lack of a top screen, etc.)
This wil be great for Zoom calls with my friends.
This is probably the best modern camera for vlogs
They sure killed it with this launch! 🔥🎥
Interview question: would it be theoretically possible to run a screen off the front evf usb port? ie how many watts of power does it supply and is it a normal standard of video? A one cable solution there would be sick!
Can you find out if they are moving entirely away from Prores? Obviously you can attach a video assist, but with the most recent cameras from Blackmagic, it seems there's a higher focus on braw and a complete abandonment of Prores in the cameras. Is this a licensing issue with Apple? I just want to understand why it's important for them to make you use braw for everything. I'm already cutting in DaVinci Prores or not. Thanks!
Maybe is a matter of space, the higher they go on resolution and fps, the less an internal ProRes became usable/sufficient.
I never understood why they are going away from it either. RED, Arri and Sony are recording in ProRes. Even Kinefinity lets you record in 12 bit 4444 ProRes on thier cameras in high resolutions and frame rates 🤷♂️
I have been bitching about the ergonomics of the BMPcamera line, and they shut me up, tied up and strapped me down today. DAMN!!!!!
MKII of the box camera is going to be something all camera companies are going to have to watch out for!
All the modern RED cameras have a screen. Also the BMD Camera OS is based around touchscreen functionality. I love the larger screen on it.
The strap module for the phone makes a lot of sense. I’ve tested the camera to cloud services using my iPhone. The uploads work great…but then rigging the phone is a total pain, where this approach would be nice to have available. At the same time, I’m not prepared to deal with such a slow sensor. I will kludge my way along with the CCs I have now until the G2 comes along.
Great video, and safe travels Michael.
Question for BM unrelated to hardware: Would it be possible to trigger in-body recording on iPhones via ATEM? Iya the one item on my bucket list whilst I continue to use the app as I save up for my first Blackmagic camera.
INTERVIEW QUESTION
Does the Pyxis have Gyro data like the 6K and 6K pro line????
gyro stab almost completely eliminated the RS on my 6kpro. I was blown away and discovered it quite by accident
This was my first thought as well!!
Their website says so 🙌
It's the same hardware as the FF 6k, so you can pretty much be sure, it does. I mean, even the Micro Studio 4k G2 got gyro !!
Take my money lol
Do we get 120fps in 4K with the boxed camera?
Can you ask if they weren't able to add NDs because of the size?
I wonder if we can control the camera and all settings from the blackmagic video assist?
I’m amazed at the price of this truly professional camera. I read that rolling shutter could be a big issue on this camera, so hopefully Resolve’s rolling shutter fix can improve on that.
The side screen is just for menus but gives you video playback as a bonus if you need to check something fast without a proper monitor attached.
Sorry to go off topic, but is the iPad mount you’re using the SwitchEasy Flipmount?
Guys this cam is a beast for the price! The screen is not for filming it's for operating, fix your settings by moving over have a millimetre and then get back to your external monitor . Let's not complain about the monitor it gives amateur vibes. I'm not saying you're an Am Michael just want the youngsters to see this is not an issue at all, let's move past it fast and focus on this gift to the market. Great video !! Sick Cam.
I have a bmpcc4k with a Portkey monitor connected by HDMI. I do not see an HDMI connector in the Pixis. What would be the ideal add-on monitor for this camera? Obviously, one that can run the menus as the Portkey or the Small HD do? Could my current monitor be connected by USB-C, where the viewfinder goes somehow? Sorry if the questions are silly. But I don't see myself filming solo with the monitor on the side of the camera. I also use Both tilta Nucleus M handles for focus and iris. It would be interesting to work out how to put them on either side of the camera...The Pyxis looks amazing, though...Cheers and thanks for your video.
Please ask BMD if the Ursa 12K/17K will be available without the proprietary Media Module. Or if there is a way to swap the Media Module for the CFExpress Module option. I don’t need 8TB internally as I will mostly shoot 4K, occasionally 8K (as I do on my Ursa Mini 12K currently).
According to their website, yes there will be a card module available to use instead of the 8TB module.
Is there any plan to capture Zdepth and encode that data inside their cameras for VFX artists to capture and utilize?
Hey Michael, I believe the FPS limitation could be based on the sensor readout speed. Curious to find out!
this is all so wild, got my G2 delivered two weeks ago, 3 days later they dropped the huge Cinema camera update, started practicing on studio resolve 18, and now 19 is released the next week. THIS IS A WHIRLWIND LMFAO
You're not missing much except unless you want the full frame.
@@ChrisParayno oh im very happy with my g2, its more that i bought it not knowing any of this big news was coming up and it all happened RIGHT after i got the camera 😂just makes everything more exciting!!
They went all out, I’m definitely getting the Pyxis
Frame rates on a camera are often an indicator of the sensors readout speed and rolling shutter. They probably can't get higher frame rates at lower resolutions because of the amount of time it takes to read the sensor. But being able to do 100 frames a second at 12K means it still has a pretty fast readout time and should have decent rolling shutter performance.
IMX410 is one of, if not the most, legendary sensors ever made for the world of prosumer imaging.
Cropping on a sensor shorten the readout speed. Less pixel to read = less time to read the pixels.
Every full frame offering s35 crop have better performance in rolling shutter in crop mode, and not by a small margin. So no rolling shutter does not limit the frame rate at lower pixel ratios.
What could be a problem is if these modes are not crop but oversample. Oversampling needs to read the whole sensor
@@lucasvivante8988 sorry I should clarify that I was only referring to the s35 9k crop. Framerate and rolling shutter are still limited by how fast the sensor can dump heat and electrons before recapturing capture light. When you crop to s35 you aren't necessarily reading that area out any faster than in full frame.
It's kinda like depth of field when you use the same lens on ff and s35. The depth of field doesn't change but our perception overall does due to the larger area on ff.
I could be way off base, but currently my thinking is due to the pixel density when reading the whole ff or 35 area the camera cant keep up with the heat to read out any faster.
When dropping to 8k ff blackmagic say with their new Bayer pattern they are pixels skipping, so you have fewer pixels to read and a larger area to dissipate heat.
You are correct that cropping does increase readout speed, but there can be other factors.
But the original point I was kinda trying to make is that slow framerates doesn't necessarily mean slow readout, but high frame rights do mean fast read outs.
@@lucasvivante8988 sorry I should have clarified. I'm referring to the 9k s35 crop.
A sensors readout speed and in turn rolling shutter and framerates can also be effected by how fast a sensor can dump heat and electrons before recapturing light for the next frame.
Your correct that cropping to s35 does increase read speed and reduce overall rolling shutter but in the same way we effect perceived depth of field when using the same lens on s35 and full frame. The camera doesn't actually read the super 35 area any faster than in full frame mode, but it can start reading the next frame sooner cause there is less to read. If you overlay the s35 capture it's effective on full frame the rolling shutter often lines up assuming no processing or data limitations.
I could be way off base but my thinking here is that due to the pixel density in ff 12k and s35 9k the camera cant cool the sensor effectively enough to increase the read out and framerate. Blackmagic said that their with their new Bayer pattern on the 12k sensor they are pixel skipping. So when they reduce resolution on full frame they have a greater area for fewer pixels allowing the camera to read out more frames while still cooling effectively.
What I was kinda trying to say on my original comment is that low framerates dont necessarily mean a slow readout, but fast framerates mean that the readout has to be faster meaning the rolling shutter is reduced.
Will DR19 be able edit H265 (HEVC) files without going to the studio version on WIndows?
For the PYXIS 6K - I know we want it to be a single user, but the side screen is for a focus puller. Everyone needs a buddy. It's great that the RHS plate dimensions are available, to make your own mounts for whatever you are doing. Please use metal CNC, and not 3D Printer plastic. Otherwise use base mount gear, which is plentiful.
I'm almost happier for you than I am for myself. Your videos have been hoping and anticipating something big from BM for a while now! 😂 👏👏
"This is a thicc BOY" made me laugh haha. I'd love to know if you can simultaneously record to both of the CF cards on the PYXIS
I think these cards are so reliable that you wouldn't have to. But I'm pretty sure you can.
@@david_garibaldi I thought the same until I had one die in my R5 on a wedding day 😬 very happy I was dual recording. Would be great to be able to in the blackmagic!
With my Komodo I have an external monitor and even a viewfinder but I find myself liking using just the top screen and keeping it minimal.
Like that BM has finally done it by why so late and why just 13 stops.
The Ursa cine looks so smart ergonomics wise and overall usage it's such a smart camera I feel jealous for whoever gets it and I would love to use it.
This was seriously the most amazing announcement from any company attending NAB in the last 10 years. INCREDIBLE! Can't wait to get one!
I'm most excited about the micro color panel
i want a subscription model, im tired of not giving them money for using my davinci since ages ago.
Grant hates subscriptions but what they should do is offer a higher level of customer support that’s paid, comes with the cloud, etc. I do buy their hardware from time to time and feel good about supporting them, but yes my dongle from Resolve version 9 is what I’m using!!! I do have a license that came with the speed editor I use for my laptop. I did buy the keycaps for $600 a few years ago to update my advanced panel to V2 (but bought that used) so not sure when I’ll be buying new BMD hardware.
So far my only gripe is the location of the SDI ports in relation to the battery port - especially when wanting to mount v mount or gold mount options. Can you ask BM if there will be a solution for that? Or when you see it in person can you see how much real estate there is to fit a v mount battery/plate back there? Thanks!
tilta, smallrig and everybody will make and adapter for vmount batteries. That certainly will extend beyond the sdi port
You can also have a right angle mount for sdi
@@nicolacornolti so true! Thanks for that insight!
Hi do u work for Black Magic I use Adobe Premier the older version I am slowy buying parts for 4K h.265 30 fps 60 fps for blogging
I am wondering if we can use usb c to hdmi adapter for an external monitor
Does the Pyxis have global shutter?
Amazing! BM never let us down
BMI is crushing it. They are taking over and I'm here for it.
Are there options for using an Android Tablet instead of an iPad?
One more thing: did they add basics to resolve like copying text attributes?
Please ask them if they reduced the price of the monitors because they are planning to release an updated version soon, I have the lumix S5 MK2 and I feel like the monitor was released way before the camera and would love to see a new version with some new cool features on it.
No internal ND for the pyxis??
Is there a way to record pro res externally instead of just the internal BRAW?
Yes with an external monitor such as the blackmagic video assist.
I am curious about this as well.
Would love to see an updated Video Assist monitor line from BM. Ideally one that allows you to adjust the internal settings of the camera. This would negate the side-monitor issue on the Pyxis.
Colourgrading with the Micropanel in a coffee shop! 😂
The side monitor just greases the space between your checkbook and the new sick AF EVF !
We're going to get a lot more options for that right side panels. They're making the specks for those and all of the cage manufacturers will have different mounting options based on it
It was very nice meeting you today at NAB
They want you to buy one of their monitors that they just reduced in price. That's why the screen is on the side. Also for focus pullers.
Really great upgrades! The only thing I miss with new 6k are ingrated ND filters. This would make it stunning. But what do you think of the new Micro Panel? I really think about selling my BM Mini Panel for the new Micro Panel, because it has much more buttons and functions and is portable like no other.
Anyone know anything about this cameras Auto focus? Thanks in advance!
Atomos is doing a decent job at making older gear better or cheaper too. They gave the 2018 Ninja V a paid firmware update that gives it all the modern OS features of their latest monitors.
Buzzing about the 6K box design! Waited so long for it! Just gutted there’s no internal ND’s. Hopefully they bring a pro version out
So, I see no new product that would considered as an upgrade to ATEM Mini Pro ISO, right?
Another interview question: Why my tokina 11-16 F2.8 still doesn't work (the known aperture stuck issue) even after new firmware update?
The new beta? My tokina 11-16 works OK now
I wont worry about the screen being on the side, with the view finder accessory being usb c, you could probably use a phone as a screen.
Michael, please ask BM during your interview, will they make and sell separate external controlling monitor for Pyxis. if not which touch screen monitors will be best option to use. Also about V mount option instead of current, will they make and sell V mount battery plate or not? Thanks and have a great holidays.
They should do a detachable screen which attached with magnets and connects via usb-c while detached,
Question about L-mount alliance. Do we expect some good new lenses for BlackMagic that could be used for Lumix S cameras too?
@@bastelwigames anything. L-mount is still lacking behind Sony with variety of lenses. However I know Lumix and Leica lenses are top of the game.
Did resolve get a dope sheet for key framing yet?
They really need this!
Intereview question. Will there be firmware updates on 4.6K G2 as it's still being sold for 5995$?
No, they've long abandoned the Ursa Mini G2 for updates. Thoughts are they didn't design it with the ability to update it to the extent you can with their other models.
Black magic pyxis 13 stops dynamic range is the main issue I have with this camera. Also no H.265
Basically it’s the Pocket 6K in a box format.
Hi Michael, I’m curious why they didn’t opt for v mount for the “black box” camera since mini batteries are all the rage these days. Are the minis still too big for the box form factor? Would love if you can get an answer from them at NAB.
Curious too if they will say what’s next for the BMPCC line. In some ways the FX3/FX30 is the true “PCC”, especially in terms of form factor
Can't wait for the PYXIS 6K Pro with Internal NDs a year from now. Also If BMD makes a external camera monitor that can use the front Viewfinder USB that would be awesome.
The resolve replay system they announced was mind blowing. A few years ago a 2 channel replay system would cost you $20,000 now Blackmagic release this with 8 channels
Here my question.
1. Could we see an update where we can record higher fps at open gate via sdi recording on video assist 12G?
2. Would it be possible to run usbc to video assist 12G for image and power if we don’t want the EVF?
3. Any potential of making a dedicated monitors? Say take the video assist 12gs and take away the external recording components. In order to make just a monitor that also has USB-C for image signal and camera controls without having to use the side screen.
3. Can the screen be set to auto off and tap to wake like a phone? To save battery when not using it until we need to?
Are there ND filters on the PYXiS?
I've always just gawked at cinema cameras because they're just so beautiful. I never felt like buying a BMPCC or similar because I only shoot stills. However... $3k for a 6K box format camera makes my heart flutter. I want one to play with. I want one.
I agree about the screen. It should have been fully articulating like the cine 12k.
Do black magic cameras have autofocus? If so, is it good?
Pixys might be good for shoulder mounts 👀.
Maybe docu style shooters might enjoy it
I am sure they will have Firmware updates in a few months to address the speeds etc.
I love they presenter they always use for these videos. He always seems so down to earth.
That’s Grant Petty, CEO 😂 he’s amazing
He's so awesome, smart and gentle.
So adorable
Question for NAB. USB C for EVF, BNC for SDI. Why no HDMI? Is the idea to use an USB C iPhone/iPad as a monitor?
ASK THESE PLEASE:
Ability to search vst in tracks by either vendor or category in the fair light page.
2. Ability to add sticky notes in the clip node editor . Useful when transferring projects between systems
3. Ability to convert compound clips to multicam clips … this is ambitious I know. But is useful to enhance workflow especially in tv series editing
4 ability to duck the transcribe pop up panel … maybe like a tap on the inspector section. And a streamline script base editing workflow like that of avid media composer. This would be so lovely to have 😊
5. Ability to create instrument tracks and loads VSTi for scoring and foley composition with a KONTAKT foley library. This would be so cool to have in the fair light page…
6. Ability to send out more than 3 displays from video cards that supports the number. This is used when you aimed at dedicating a monitor for scopes, two for editing, one for main output and why not another for lightbox when in color page and or the mixer channel when in fairlight page… this would be super useful… I have a quadro card with 4 display port out but I can only use 3 ….
Thank you so much please
I hope resolve get to consider these…
I have been using resolve back as 2014…
It is my number one ❤❤❤❤😊😊
Rolling shutter in new ursa. Please about this to BMD panel. Please please please
I miss the Global Shutter from Blackmagic. I like that they did the box camera, weird that the screen on the side, should have been on the top, but I wanted a Global Shutter in it. I basically want a cheaper Red Komodo from BM.
I would loved that PYXIS 6K would have have RF mount as I have so many lenses. I would have payed more as with the PL mount.
This camera has been designed to work directly on film sets and is not suitable for filming vacations
I'll get the box camera for sure. The monitor isn't a big issue for me hus I just wish it had global shutter. I'd even pay extra for that but this for that price is incredible. I love what blackmagic are doing!
This launch was effing huuuuuuge! I’m definitely getting the Pyxis! I absolutely love Blackmagic. Their products are the Apple of cameras (in a good way).
BM needs more audio recording options. More XLR inputs. Or just rethink recording audio in the field.
This is all great, but it lacks audio
Will the PYXIS have internal NDs ?
no
I think the side screen is good, I’d rather have the top free for mounting
So what would be cool, is if BM has a on camera monitor that is powered by USB, and allows camera operation on the Pixsys (the box camera). One cable.
A sensor that can do frames rates that high will not having rolling shutter issues - those two metrics are directly related - faster the sensor read-out, the faster the HFRs will be and the lower the rolling shutter will be.
yes and not necesarily, it wont be bad as you said, but what if by the time the last line of pixels of frame A the next frame is already 1/3 into reading? you still get fast fps.
@@STONJAUS_FILMS I can't recall a single camera with good high frame rate options and bad rolling shutter (this is why there's a massive crop for HFR in a lot of cameras, to reduce sensor read-out time and get on to capturing the next frame). Happy to be challenged on this!
So.....the bmcc 6k is now sensles ??