the coincidence of both ultimate universe's having felicia hardy unknowingly fight a child considering that iconic scene between her and peter in the Bendis Ultimate run
I love this book it’s really awesome and seeing Peter Parker’s son Richard Parker help his fathers being Spider-Man is really awesome and tons of fun in my opinion.
Speaking of Peter's son, the MC2 version, "Benjy", also shows up in Kid Venom #4 this week as a plot device/macguffin for that miniseries. And yes, Mayday Spider-girl also shows up as well
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw i certainly hope so I really do because really don’t want to see mc2 Benji Parker be even more in danger because mayday Parker spider girl really needs a break from all of this spiderverse nonsense
Place your bets yall. Now that their identities are exposed, who do you think is gonna kill the Sinister Six? Harry or the Symbiote? I could definitely see the Symbiote doing so to protect Peter and that being the tipping point for their conflict.
I think Kraven will kill Mole Man and Mysterio to protect Peter. He seems to respect him and I think it he will do it to see how long he can protect his “perfect” family while being a superhero in The Maker’s world.
@@bajan71683 ooo that'd lead to some interesting drama if Kraven ends up having mental health struggles later on. Kraven saves his family and Pete wants to repay the favor in Kraven's darkest hour.
I’m guessing the AI suit is gonna get used to being Peter maybe to the point where he’s not gonna want to give it back to Peter he has all of Peter’s memories and also Peter giving the suit the prime directive of protect the family gives my skynet/ultron vibes who’s prime directives were to protect the earth but misinterpreted the command as protect the earth from being destroyed by the humans I think the venom is gonna see it as protect the family from everyone including Peter
right, perhaps it will become sentient enough to feel entitled to the relationship it's building with Richard, especially, a relationship that Peter's not experiencing since he's not even there haha.
Thanks for reviewing USM 1st, Joel! 👍👌☺️ Yes, USM by Hickman continues to be great when you are patient enough to sit through the slice of life stuff that most readers lack nowadays
My one """"major"""" complaint was I felt like Richard had little part to play in all this story and when this issue opened I actually gasped. so cool.
You just know that this is what Hickman was setting up this whole time. There's even a fun dynamic where Harry's suit AI is his dad, well, now Richard's suit AI is his dad as well. Plus the dynamic of Felica vs Richard continuing the beef of their fathers, it's secretly brilliant.
@@nate1daniels745Honesty, I think there are multiple Mysterios. I thought about that because of Black Cat senior asking if they had gotten shorter and the cover for issue 16# (Peter fighting multiple Mysterios).
Ehhh Venom *eventually* becomes good in Spidey stories, but he never starts out that way. Usually the symbiote is angry and vindictive after being separated from Spidey and becomes good after "moving on" from Peter.
If Harry breaks bad after all of this, it'll both make sense (if they kill Gwen) and be so heartbreaking (because he and Peter went through so much, doing all this superhero junk).
Reading this issue, I was literally thinking that Felicia is probably younger than she looks. Probably a teenager like Richard, and this is part of why she's so different form 616 Felicia.
The longer this book goes on the more I’m not entirely sure if I like everything I see. Don’t get me wrong I’m a huge fan of the premise. But I mean each book actually taking place in real time. It’s taken Kingpins men a year or so to deal with Spiderman but…they’ve barely even fought them? And in their first real meeting, Peter’s already lost his secret identity? Like…eh….okay, I guess And so what? Next issue Black Cat is going to be fighting Symbi-Man for a month while Peter and Harry fight for another month in the Savage lands? Like huh?
Uh, yes. That's how Hickman writes, and it pays off very well (Remember HIS time runs out storyline? It led directly into Secret wars 2015,and it was a satisfying payoff!!)
Got to love that AI Pete respect boundaries
To be fair, 6160 Peter is the one who set those rules in the 1st place
Joel is so excited that he called Richard and the tech suit, "Ben and the symbiote". 😊
Yes I did lol
I'm digging this take on the Symbiote. I wonder if Richard being Spider-Man will come into significance later.
the coincidence of both ultimate universe's having felicia hardy unknowingly fight a child considering that iconic scene between her and peter in the Bendis Ultimate run
You think? Felicia also shows up in this week's ASM to try to comfort a now nihilistic Peter (it didn't work!)
Kraven's Mohawk and eye makeup is making him look a lot like Vaas, I dig it
Such a good issue, can’t wait for the next
Groovy ultimate Spider-Man
I love this book it’s really awesome and seeing Peter Parker’s son Richard Parker help his fathers being Spider-Man is really awesome and tons of fun in my opinion.
Speaking of Peter's son, the MC2 version, "Benjy", also shows up in Kid Venom #4 this week as a plot device/macguffin for that miniseries. And yes, Mayday Spider-girl also shows up as well
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw wait what again why are they making Benji Parker a plot device for that kid venom series that sounds like a bad idea in my opinion.
@TevyaSmolka dunno, 🤔🤷. That's just what the writer of that miniseries did. But anyway, Benjy is safe and sound
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw i certainly hope so I really do because really don’t want to see mc2 Benji Parker be even more in danger because mayday Parker spider girl really needs a break from all of this spiderverse nonsense
Place your bets yall. Now that their identities are exposed, who do you think is gonna kill the Sinister Six? Harry or the Symbiote? I could definitely see the Symbiote doing so to protect Peter and that being the tipping point for their conflict.
I think Kraven will kill Mole Man and Mysterio to protect Peter. He seems to respect him and I think it he will do it to see how long he can protect his “perfect” family while being a superhero in The Maker’s world.
@@bajan71683 ooo that'd lead to some interesting drama if Kraven ends up having mental health struggles later on. Kraven saves his family and Pete wants to repay the favor in Kraven's darkest hour.
Harry, since he has shown he as NO qualms about it
@@bajan71683not likely. He is as evil as 616 Kraven as he can get
I’m guessing the AI suit is gonna get used to being Peter maybe to the point where he’s not gonna want to give it back to Peter he has all of Peter’s memories and also Peter giving the suit the prime directive of protect the family gives my skynet/ultron vibes who’s prime directives were to protect the earth but misinterpreted the command as protect the earth from being destroyed by the humans I think the venom is gonna see it as protect the family from everyone including Peter
right, perhaps it will become sentient enough to feel entitled to the relationship it's building with Richard, especially, a relationship that Peter's not experiencing since he's not even there haha.
I wouldn't be surprised if it goes THAT route..... 😅
@@sourkrowtnot unlike 616 Venom symbiote with Dylan, it's "offspring"!
Thanks for reviewing USM 1st, Joel! 👍👌☺️
Yes, USM by Hickman continues to be great when you are patient enough to sit through the slice of life stuff that most readers lack nowadays
Very smart for Peter having his Ai suit fill in. But will it fool the villains like Kraven learning that Spider-Man is in New York.
Nope. Kraven is not fooled he KNOWS Peter is the real Spider-man and is his prisoner right now!
My one """"major"""" complaint was I felt like Richard had little part to play in all this story and when this issue opened I actually gasped. so cool.
You just know that this is what Hickman was setting up this whole time. There's even a fun dynamic where Harry's suit AI is his dad, well, now Richard's suit AI is his dad as well. Plus the dynamic of Felica vs Richard continuing the beef of their fathers, it's secretly brilliant.
See? That's why you should be patient and let Hickman do his stuff!
great narration Joel.
Y'know, I'm starting to think that mysterio already knew Peter before this issue. Wouldn't THAT be a twist.
I heard someone say that Mysterio is actually Gale, MJ's sister.
@guilhermedias18064 I had a similar thought. I could also see it being Robbie
@@nate1daniels745Honesty, I think there are multiple Mysterios. I thought about that because of Black Cat senior asking if they had gotten shorter and the cover for issue 16# (Peter fighting multiple Mysterios).
@@guilhermedias18064 yeah that makes sense
Could be. Since no one, not even Kingpin knows WHO this guy/gal is, and it may be someone we may or not know already!
Wasn’t expecting the AI suit to be teaming up w/ Richard, but still cool
Venom isn’t evil though, this is actually in character for him
Ehhh Venom *eventually* becomes good in Spidey stories, but he never starts out that way. Usually the symbiote is angry and vindictive after being separated from Spidey and becomes good after "moving on" from Peter.
@@warioskapelli3100yup that’s correct
@@warioskapelli3100But Peter seems to accept him already.
Yes, but to an OBSSESSIVE point
@@warioskapelli3100correct. It was feeling hurt and "betrayed" like a rejected lover
I am praying Kraven doesn't know Diddy in the Ultimate Universe!!
I know I said that New York's underground was enormous, but how did they put part of the savage land down there?
No, they didn't. They moved to the REAL savage land itself!
Deinonychus actually based on the size, that or mole man is a fan of jurassic park 4:55
Don't question it. It's all fictional
If Harry breaks bad after all of this, it'll both make sense (if they kill Gwen) and be so heartbreaking (because he and Peter went through so much, doing all this superhero junk).
4:16 i don't think the bombs were fake, i think Kraven was just fucking with them, making them think he was going to blow them up (but he could have)
I dunno. I think they MAY be real, but just that he chooses not to activate them in order to enjoy f***ing with them mentally
Almost exactly like 616 Savage Land, still no other tribes around so far.
The maker didn't kill Sauron. This universe's Sauron is chill about 5 because Wakanda never invented the cure yet. Lol
Which universe do you guys prefer. The absolute universe or the ultimate universe?
Ultimate, for now. But Absolute is very quickly catching up as of this week's Absolute WW!
I’m so glad the Pico suit is going the Ben Reilly route right now and I hope the AI stays like that
Aw man Peter’s son is gonna be ultimate venom isn’t he
Or this world's Eddie Brock, once he come onto the scene (You KNOW he WILL!)
@ I think it’ll be Richard this ultimate universe likes to do something different
@@baggin. Maybe.......
Is this black cat gonna be a love interest for Ben and not Peter how old is black cat in this universe
Reading this issue, I was literally thinking that Felicia is probably younger than she looks. Probably a teenager like Richard, and this is part of why she's so different form 616 Felicia.
If so that would be ironic cuz in the original ultimate universe it was the other way around Peter was 16 and Felisha was in her early twenties
Dunno yet
Man I hope Kraven doesn’t have depression or cancer we have done kraven’s last hunt too many times let him do anything else.
Nope. He is perfectly fit and healthy as you can see!
Still aggressively hoping that Black Cat doesn't end up flirting with Ben Spider Boy Parker. She shouldn't but comic book logic is weird.
Ah, but this is 6160,its warped and twisted so she MIGHT.
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw +20 anxiety Please no
The longer this book goes on the more I’m not entirely sure if I like everything I see. Don’t get me wrong I’m a huge fan of the premise. But I mean each book actually taking place in real time. It’s taken Kingpins men a year or so to deal with Spiderman but…they’ve barely even fought them? And in their first real meeting, Peter’s already lost his secret identity? Like…eh….okay, I guess
And so what? Next issue Black Cat is going to be fighting Symbi-Man for a month while Peter and Harry fight for another month in the Savage lands? Like huh?
Uh, yes. That's how Hickman writes, and it pays off very well (Remember HIS time runs out storyline? It led directly into Secret wars 2015,and it was a satisfying payoff!!)
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