The third story is so wild because the dad perfectly explains valid reasons why the son might be scared of coming out and then asks why the son was scared. My brother in christ you just explained why????
I gotta say your response to the third question about the dad and coming out made me way more emotional than I want to admit as someone who's father got really upset about me coming out to my mother first before him. Once again an absolute great take from all three of y'all and saying really poignant and great things.
I think the thing that was the most telling in the first one was him saying to her "You disrespected the relationship by not telling me." This guy feels entitled to her entire life history and anything he feels about it is somehow her fault.
Big point on the gay son thing, it’s also the fact that he asked is that your boyfriend and if the son has not already come out then he’s going to assume that is being said in a cheeky way maybe still making fun of the gays
On the last post, and as Joseph eluded to often times when people come out to liberal parents those parents, intentionally or not, turn their kids into like props. The ultimate take away from those parents is "oh look at my child, theyre queer and I accepted them imediately" its not nearly as bad as the homophobic parents disowning their children, but its kind of dehumanizing. Theyre still treating you as like an other, and it makes your coming out all about them and how accepting they are.
There is a skip forward in the dialogue at the 25:45 mark - the full extent of the discussion the poster has with her husband is missed, but is still gleanable from latter dialogue amongst the Councel member
The last guy needs to understand you can feel something without expressing it. You can be hurt about something, that's fine. Hell, he could ask why he felt like he had to be scared, but the fact that his kid stormed off in a huff means the dad clearly was negging him or being pushy or something, making it clear that he felt his child's feelings were a personal attack on his character.
Uh... I don't get that sense. Teenagers will storm off from just about any situation they don't feel comfortable with and have an escape from. The dad saying "stormed off," man's he was upset and he left.
While I completely agree with yall on the 3rd atory the part that stuck put to me was the son's respnse when his dad asked about his boyfriend was a very survival "I will do or say anything that keeps me safe in this moment" response and that the dad wanted to get to the root of why his son had such a reaction to help improve and make him feel more safe.
for the epidural story, the poster is definitely the asshole, the *immediately started it* with the "you want a medal?" comment, because there is no correct answer there: "no, i don't want a medal" -> ok, pretentious much, or "Yes ofc i want a medal!" -> straight up what they expected.... so the poster just did it to themselves
is the podcast really quiet for anyone else? I usually have to pump the volume up to 100 on YT with my speakers cranked up, and it's still a bit too quiet.
22:00 I never liked how Reddit or any other sites does this. It only creates an illusion of trusting people with more Karma and it creates an environment where people buy farmed or stolen accounts. This happened with Twitter and UA-cam accounts all the time
About the epidural stuff : For the love of everything in this universe, why do we have to ALWAYS put people into groups and categories and discriminate those who are on the " opposite " side ? Why does people always judge other like that : " oh you did this ? well i didn't therefore i'm better than you ". Why does this keep happening for almost every hobby or topic ? My god can we just look at our garden first and mind our fucking business ?
I think a greater visual component to the youtube uploads would be a nice addition. Not necessarily facecam or anything, but something other than a static image. Time stamps to different topics would also be sick!
Yeah the dad is allowed to be upset, but his son did come out to him and that is an amazing thing. I don’t believe my parents are not homophobic, they don’t know I’m bisexual and the chances I will ever tell them are extremely low.
I’ve done the grab some drinks with a partner plenty of times. I don’t see the problem. It’s not like it’s every night and that’s not what the post said either. Pretty common thing I’d think 🤷♂️
I dont get the issue with the first story, it just sounds like a cute way two people like spending time together, it's just their thing. Others may sit down and play a game, or go out to the restaurant, but this seems like a very easy, cheap, and fun way of just hanging out. I didn't expect joseph to be such a hater of good times given his track record, danny not being married i understand why he's on that side. Jordan is so on the right so many times on this podcast, hes never wrong. I love spending time with my partner, no matter what we're doing. We come up with little nights to hang out with each other. Plus, the bottle of wine isnt even that much in general, i thought they were talking about the huge bottles, but these are normal. Let the people have fun man.
As someone against alcoholism I get what he's saying. According to the CDC, the most common form of excessive drinking is binge drinking, which is defined as 4 drinks in one sitting for a woman and 5 for a man. According to the same page from the CDC, the standard drink size for wine is 5 ounces at 12% abv. Drinking an entire 750 ml (around 26 ounces) bottle in one sitting once a week? I'll let you make your own conclusions
@@ashikjaman1940they didn’t say you have to finish the whole bottle or that they do it even that regularly. Feels like we’re comping at the bit to call people alcoholics for having fun.
@@ducky36F they why get an entire bottle if you don't plan to finish it? If they're just gonna drink some of it then how is that any different from having a glass of wine?
Getting drunk with your partner.... Yeesh. I have strong bias against alcohol. You shouldn't need to get drunk to enjoy time with your partner. I've heard about having a single glass of wine to unwind but an entire bottle each seems a bit much. I dunno... She seems to be the last one in the group who had a child. I assume there have been conversations before about how the epidural was totally required. That it was a good decision and so on. And the last one in the group rolls in and exposes the decisions the others might not have needed to make but felt pressured into. It'll cause a rift for sure. The Dad in the third one is not remotely an asshole. Your kid is a teenager. They are going to be unreasonable, snapish, and unpredictable. It sucks, but they WILL hurt you at some point either intentionally or not. It doesn't make you an asshole to be hurt, and ask what you could do better. I don't think I've ever heard these guys take the side of the parent... Ever. It's a hard job and this guy seems to be doing the best he can. There is nothing wrong with trying to communicate with your son, or being hurt by him when he didn't trust you.
My mom chose to receive an epidural during my youngest siblings' birth, and she ended up regretting getting because she ended up with back pain for almost 15 years afterward because of it.
750ml of wine (average 13%) is too much? Do the lads go under table after two/three pints of beer? Like one wine bottle is about five 3.5 beers(12oz).I'm absolutely baffled. Like surely Im not alone from being genuinely confused about how they are describing the amount of alcohol being consumed as massive and worthy of being called alcoholic.
@@raze667 what the bugger are you on about? It would have been fine to just type out "nah I think it's quite a lot", but why start weird accusation game you weirdo
@@raze667 why are you being weird with unrelated statement? Like a normal person would have just decided to state "imo its quite a bit" but you decided to be weird. don't be weird.
@@CrowQQ I mean drinking is a widely accepted and supported vice in American culture. Calling it out at all is already "weird." But yeah, I guess I can dumb it down a bit. I don't think drinking the equvalent of five beers by yourself in a single sitting is a good thing. It might not be uncommon but it doesn't make it healthy.
Part of it is alcohol by volume working against beers. A bottle of wine is the same as about 5.5 shots at 40% abv or 4 - 12 oz beers at 8% abv. That is a decent amount of alcohol. Edit to add: 750ml is about 25oz. and adjusting to the abv its just under 4 beers, with 8% abv. 4 beers in 2 hours is enough to blow over the legal limit for just about anyone under 180lbs. I suppose it really boils down to how casually you view drinking
If you chug a bottle of wine in 10 minutes that is insane but over an entire night assuming you like eat before or during it really is not that weird. That's assuming you need to finish the bottle by the end of a night when you can very much shove the cork back in and drink the rest next week. Both assuming that a single bottle of wine will get you shitfaced or you shouldn't drink wine from the bottle really shows how American you guys are. Your alcoholism really isn't made better by dirtying more glasses or doing it in a building owned by somebody else.
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The third story is so wild because the dad perfectly explains valid reasons why the son might be scared of coming out and then asks why the son was scared. My brother in christ you just explained why????
This is the only podcast I regularly listen to
I pay more attention to this podcast than I do videos I actually watch
With the context of the grandpa's girly boy jokes, it makes sense why the kid shutdown. Probably thought his dad was making a girly boy joke.
"Capri Sun bag of Wine" can't believe Danny's the one to ask if he can Goon
God forbid couples do anything
If drinking a 750ml of wine is alcoholism than I'm an alcoholic... oh wait
"Kettle, this is the Pot. Do you read me? Over."
@@raze667 but I'm white...?
@@gb4770 White people will literally drink 750ml of wine a night instead of going to therapy 😔😔😔
@@gb4770It's an old saying. "It's like the Pot calling the Kettle, black." Basically I was playing along.
I gotta say your response to the third question about the dad and coming out made me way more emotional than I want to admit as someone who's father got really upset about me coming out to my mother first before him. Once again an absolute great take from all three of y'all and saying really poignant and great things.
WILL OF THE COUNCEL BOTTLE NIGHT, MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
I think the thing that was the most telling in the first one was him saying to her "You disrespected the relationship by not telling me." This guy feels entitled to her entire life history and anything he feels about it is somehow her fault.
What a good podcast for listening to funny people talk about utterly inane nonsense.
Its a bird! Its a plane! No, it's 27:11!
Big point on the gay son thing, it’s also the fact that he asked is that your boyfriend and if the son has not already come out then he’s going to assume that is being said in a cheeky way maybe still making fun of the gays
On the last post, and as Joseph eluded to often times when people come out to liberal parents those parents, intentionally or not, turn their kids into like props. The ultimate take away from those parents is "oh look at my child, theyre queer and I accepted them imediately" its not nearly as bad as the homophobic parents disowning their children, but its kind of dehumanizing. Theyre still treating you as like an other, and it makes your coming out all about them and how accepting they are.
There is a skip forward in the dialogue at the 25:45 mark - the full extent of the discussion the poster has with her husband is missed, but is still gleanable from latter dialogue amongst the Councel member
Banger of an episode still disagree on how hardjoeseph dug in on the dad but saved it at the end. 10/10 episode
The last guy needs to understand you can feel something without expressing it. You can be hurt about something, that's fine. Hell, he could ask why he felt like he had to be scared, but the fact that his kid stormed off in a huff means the dad clearly was negging him or being pushy or something, making it clear that he felt his child's feelings were a personal attack on his character.
Uh... I don't get that sense. Teenagers will storm off from just about any situation they don't feel comfortable with and have an escape from.
The dad saying "stormed off," man's he was upset and he left.
While I completely agree with yall on the 3rd atory the part that stuck put to me was the son's respnse when his dad asked about his boyfriend was a very survival "I will do or say anything that keeps me safe in this moment" response and that the dad wanted to get to the root of why his son had such a reaction to help improve and make him feel more safe.
for the epidural story, the poster is definitely the asshole, the *immediately started it* with the "you want a medal?" comment, because there is no correct answer there: "no, i don't want a medal" -> ok, pretentious much, or "Yes ofc i want a medal!" -> straight up what they expected.... so the poster just did it to themselves
is the podcast really quiet for anyone else? I usually have to pump the volume up to 100 on YT with my speakers cranked up, and it's still a bit too quiet.
should be fixed by next episode
22:00 I never liked how Reddit or any other sites does this. It only creates an illusion of trusting people with more Karma and it creates an environment where people buy farmed or stolen accounts. This happened with Twitter and UA-cam accounts all the time
wild to hear that America has a bar called "Tilted Kilt" and it's apparently Irish and not Scottish?
Americans don't know better
Apparently it's a mix of scottish and irish
I like my roasts like I like my armed dragons.
Thunder level 5?
White?
Week 10 without a guest appearance by George Santos
Please turn up the volume
About the epidural stuff :
For the love of everything in this universe, why do we have to ALWAYS put people into groups and categories and discriminate those who are on the " opposite " side ?
Why does people always judge other like that : " oh you did this ? well i didn't therefore i'm better than you ". Why does this keep happening for almost every hobby or topic ?
My god can we just look at our garden first and mind our fucking business ?
This whole podcast’s concept is basically just judging people
I think a greater visual component to the youtube uploads would be a nice addition. Not necessarily facecam or anything, but something other than a static image. Time stamps to different topics would also be sick!
Yeah the dad is allowed to be upset, but his son did come out to him and that is an amazing thing.
I don’t believe my parents are not homophobic, they don’t know I’m bisexual and the chances I will ever tell them are extremely low.
imagine gatekeeping giving birth.
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I’ve done the grab some drinks with a partner plenty of times.
I don’t see the problem. It’s not like it’s every night and that’s not what the post said either. Pretty common thing I’d think 🤷♂️
I dont get the issue with the first story, it just sounds like a cute way two people like spending time together, it's just their thing. Others may sit down and play a game, or go out to the restaurant, but this seems like a very easy, cheap, and fun way of just hanging out.
I didn't expect joseph to be such a hater of good times given his track record, danny not being married i understand why he's on that side. Jordan is so on the right so many times on this podcast, hes never wrong. I love spending time with my partner, no matter what we're doing. We come up with little nights to hang out with each other. Plus, the bottle of wine isnt even that much in general, i thought they were talking about the huge bottles, but these are normal. Let the people have fun man.
As someone against alcoholism I get what he's saying. According to the CDC, the most common form of excessive drinking is binge drinking, which is defined as 4 drinks in one sitting for a woman and 5 for a man. According to the same page from the CDC, the standard drink size for wine is 5 ounces at 12% abv. Drinking an entire 750 ml (around 26 ounces) bottle in one sitting once a week? I'll let you make your own conclusions
@@ashikjaman1940they didn’t say you have to finish the whole bottle or that they do it even that regularly. Feels like we’re comping at the bit to call people alcoholics for having fun.
@@ducky36F they why get an entire bottle if you don't plan to finish it? If they're just gonna drink some of it then how is that any different from having a glass of wine?
9/10 episode, wish there was more Misandry. Please bring it back.
Getting drunk with your partner.... Yeesh. I have strong bias against alcohol. You shouldn't need to get drunk to enjoy time with your partner. I've heard about having a single glass of wine to unwind but an entire bottle each seems a bit much.
I dunno... She seems to be the last one in the group who had a child. I assume there have been conversations before about how the epidural was totally required. That it was a good decision and so on. And the last one in the group rolls in and exposes the decisions the others might not have needed to make but felt pressured into. It'll cause a rift for sure.
The Dad in the third one is not remotely an asshole. Your kid is a teenager. They are going to be unreasonable, snapish, and unpredictable. It sucks, but they WILL hurt you at some point either intentionally or not. It doesn't make you an asshole to be hurt, and ask what you could do better.
I don't think I've ever heard these guys take the side of the parent... Ever. It's a hard job and this guy seems to be doing the best he can. There is nothing wrong with trying to communicate with your son, or being hurt by him when he didn't trust you.
I'm glad you guys are getting monetized now, but do you think you could reduce the number of ads? It's annoying to get interrupted every five minutes.
did the twitter post actually say they each finished the whole bottle? idk why thats being assumed
I know what a bottle guy is.
4:30 the this "Jordan" get edited in?
My mom chose to receive an epidural during my youngest siblings' birth, and she ended up regretting getting because she ended up with back pain for almost 15 years afterward because of it.
I personally love this podcast because never before have we seen one with 3 straight white men and god forbid men say ANYTHING
you still haven't seen 3 straight white men
750ml of wine (average 13%) is too much?
Do the lads go under table after two/three pints of beer? Like one wine bottle is about five 3.5 beers(12oz).I'm absolutely baffled. Like surely Im not alone from being genuinely confused about how they are describing the amount of alcohol being consumed as massive and worthy of being called alcoholic.
If drinking an entire bottle wine, by yourself, in a single sitting is a normal occurrence to you. You might need help.
@@raze667 what the bugger are you on about? It would have been fine to just type out "nah I think it's quite a lot", but why start weird accusation game you weirdo
@@raze667 why are you being weird with unrelated statement? Like a normal person would have just decided to state "imo its quite a bit" but you decided to be weird.
don't be weird.
@@CrowQQ I mean drinking is a widely accepted and supported vice in American culture. Calling it out at all is already "weird."
But yeah, I guess I can dumb it down a bit. I don't think drinking the equvalent of five beers by yourself in a single sitting is a good thing. It might not be uncommon but it doesn't make it healthy.
Part of it is alcohol by volume working against beers. A bottle of wine is the same as about 5.5 shots at 40% abv or 4 - 12 oz beers at 8% abv. That is a decent amount of alcohol.
Edit to add: 750ml is about 25oz. and adjusting to the abv its just under 4 beers, with 8% abv. 4 beers in 2 hours is enough to blow over the legal limit for just about anyone under 180lbs. I suppose it really boils down to how casually you view drinking
If you chug a bottle of wine in 10 minutes that is insane but over an entire night assuming you like eat before or during it really is not that weird.
That's assuming you need to finish the bottle by the end of a night when you can very much shove the cork back in and drink the rest next week.
Both assuming that a single bottle of wine will get you shitfaced or you shouldn't drink wine from the bottle really shows how American you guys are.
Your alcoholism really isn't made better by dirtying more glasses or doing it in a building owned by somebody else.
37:19 - I don't believe that kids know what they are until they are of age but I don't mind them believing that
Why involve kids in these situations 37:16