I know this is an old video but just wanted to say thank you, it's an excellent comparison. I've looked all over and you are the only person who bothered to swatch them directly side by side which is so helpful. Yes, the issue with the color selection is simple color mixing theory.. and I feel like people don't take that into consideration, probably because foundational color theory work is so rare these days. They look at the tin and want a color just because it's missing.. but don't understand that by the fact they all contain graphite none of them are a pure color but a convenience mix. When swatched in isolation, meadow looks obviously green, and it is..but when used in conjunction with the other graphitints it gives the appearance of yellow because it's the most yellow thing on the page. A pure yellow would be shocking and out of place. Having done a lot of work in limited palettes and alternative primary palettes, I've experienced this first hand.
@xargothunter5746 check out watersoluble charcoal as well if you like the look. There are tinted versions out there in different formats, I think it was schmincke that came out with some gorgeous watercolor versions a few years ago.
@@waymire01 Yea Ill maybe have a look at some time. As it is I try to use what I got. :D I got the tinted charcoal from Derwent, both the pencils and the old 6 XL block set and I like both. Well the pencils are a bit of a pain to sharpen, but it is ok.
@@xargothunter5746 It's really soft. They do make charcoal sharpeners, perhaps try one of those. Most artists use a knife and sandpaper. Same thing with pastel pencils.
I sorta loved the last blob you did with the red and graphite the whole blob looked all lovely and autumnish. SO I get so focused on watercolors or inks or pencils I sometimes totally forget that I can blend mediums LOL so that was a nice reminder. Thank you for the video that was so helpful. I wasn't thinking in terms of color mixing at all. Or that graphite skews blue even though I have a whole big bag of graphite powder. Duh! I was Only thinking that I wanted layered color, muted color or granulation of black grey over color and it was frustrating me with these pencils. In watercolor one can use magnetite to get a muted bright or even an iron oxide. But basically I was so fixated on wanting the graphite to give me more options I completely ignored its tone. SO now I can cherish it as its own muted family of cool color...Though the 12 set is sorta lacking on blue. I think I will patiently wait for the staedtler pencils to arrive in the US and once I use up some of the derwent 12 invest in the larger set.... I already didnt care for SN pencils and then seeing the breakage you had really helped make the decision not to buy those..let alone not enough graphite....I am now set to eventually trying to make my own in watercolor or stick form I really love the moody colors.........Really great video thanks.
Thank you! I do not blame you or anyone else for not thinking BLUE when looking at graphite. I did know it was a cool grey, but it was not until I accidently grabbed a water soluble graphite pencil and made a watercolour sketch with it, -and tried to make a baselayer in yellow that it dawned on me why there are no warm tinted graphite products out there. And yes, you are absolutely right about just keying the warm colours with a different colour to mute them down with. I use sepia a lot or basically any iron oxides to make warm muted colours. I have seen a lot of reviews and people using graphitint, and everyone has mentioned the lack of yellow. So did I before said mistake. :) Give your local Staedtler rep a poke about the tinted pencils. I am sure they will eventually be released. Especially if people ask about them. I hope they will be a hit over here, so they will have even more incentive to release them elsewhere. While you wait, I can recommend the Dark Indigo and/or the Ocean Blue from Derwent. They are both very nice. And the Meadow and Autum Brown too if you need some somewhat brighter shades.
I know this is an old video but just wanted to say thank you, it's an excellent comparison. I've looked all over and you are the only person who bothered to swatch them directly side by side which is so helpful. Yes, the issue with the color selection is simple color mixing theory.. and I feel like people don't take that into consideration, probably because foundational color theory work is so rare these days. They look at the tin and want a color just because it's missing.. but don't understand that by the fact they all contain graphite none of them are a pure color but a convenience mix. When swatched in isolation, meadow looks obviously green, and it is..but when used in conjunction with the other graphitints it gives the appearance of yellow because it's the most yellow thing on the page. A pure yellow would be shocking and out of place. Having done a lot of work in limited palettes and alternative primary palettes, I've experienced this first hand.
I am glad you find it helpful. Thank you for the comment.
@xargothunter5746 check out watersoluble charcoal as well if you like the look. There are tinted versions out there in different formats, I think it was schmincke that came out with some gorgeous watercolor versions a few years ago.
@@waymire01 Yea Ill maybe have a look at some time. As it is I try to use what I got. :D I got the tinted charcoal from Derwent, both the pencils and the old 6 XL block set and I like both. Well the pencils are a bit of a pain to sharpen, but it is ok.
@@xargothunter5746 It's really soft. They do make charcoal sharpeners, perhaps try one of those. Most artists use a knife and sandpaper. Same thing with pastel pencils.
@@waymire01 I know all that and they are still hard to sharpen. :)
I never thought of mixing my water soluble graphite pencil with my watercolors. Thank you for the great tip.
You are so welcome. It found it useful to do myself so why not share?
Interesting lesson in cool primaries and graphite.
Thank you . I am so happy you liked it.
I sorta loved the last blob you did with the red and graphite the whole blob looked all lovely and autumnish. SO I get so focused on watercolors or inks or pencils I sometimes totally forget that I can blend mediums LOL so that was a nice reminder. Thank you for the video that was so helpful. I wasn't thinking in terms of color mixing at all. Or that graphite skews blue even though I have a whole big bag of graphite powder. Duh! I was Only thinking that I wanted layered color, muted color or granulation of black grey over color and it was frustrating me with these pencils. In watercolor one can use magnetite to get a muted bright or even an iron oxide. But basically I was so fixated on wanting the graphite to give me more options I completely ignored its tone. SO now I can cherish it as its own muted family of cool color...Though the 12 set is sorta lacking on blue. I think I will patiently wait for the staedtler pencils to arrive in the US and once I use up some of the derwent 12 invest in the larger set.... I already didnt care for SN pencils and then seeing the breakage you had really helped make the decision not to buy those..let alone not enough graphite....I am now set to eventually trying to make my own in watercolor or stick form I really love the moody colors.........Really great video thanks.
Thank you! I do not blame you or anyone else for not thinking BLUE when looking at graphite. I did know it was a cool grey, but it was not until I accidently grabbed a water soluble graphite pencil and made a watercolour sketch with it, -and tried to make a baselayer in yellow that it dawned on me why there are no warm tinted graphite products out there.
And yes, you are absolutely right about just keying the warm colours with a different colour to mute them down with. I use sepia a lot or basically any iron oxides to make warm muted colours.
I have seen a lot of reviews and people using graphitint, and everyone has mentioned the lack of yellow. So did I before said mistake. :)
Give your local Staedtler rep a poke about the tinted pencils. I am sure they will eventually be released. Especially if people ask about them. I hope they will be a hit over here, so they will have even more incentive to release them elsewhere.
While you wait, I can recommend the Dark Indigo and/or the Ocean Blue from Derwent. They are both very nice. And the Meadow and Autum Brown too if you need some somewhat brighter shades.
I really need to do some art with my Graphitint pencils. Your videos will hopefully motivate me to do so! 😂
I can't wait to see what you will do with them! :)
OK, now I get the I card!
Oh good! I don't know what went all wrong with the first upload.
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Thank you!