I just wanna clear some stuff up, These were all Turkish Cypriots not Turks. We are two seperate races, our accent is pretty noticable compared to Turks
@@ganymede8257 ..yes D'r ..! for them we are talking about .YOU SHOULD KNOW ..that their" roots"/ turkish cypriots /..are , at least the 1/3 of them ..were christians terned to muslims BECAUSE of the havie taxes during ottomans ..., even their villages have still christian names , ..!
@@mariosmario1048 I am aware of that, my hometown is actually Glavia. Although most of the nothern side is muslims currently, we as cypriots are gernerally not as religious as the rest of the muslims in the world (we are actually called a phrase that means fake muslim by many Turks)
I was born in London. My parents were born in Egypt from Greek Cypriot parents . In Egypt Greeks were so accepted and loved. It can happen in Cyprus. My GP is Turkish she is a lovely and a great doctor. Love from London
"There arent any places with walls like these left in the world...i want these gone too"!!My respects to this lady From Athens.Thats a true "mother" talking.
I think this is true (I am from a Greek family of Istanbul), and I have a long a** theory about this, there it goes if you're interested. Turkey is one of the most ethnically weird countries in the world. Ottomans invaded lots of Slavic countries. And lots of people from Anatolia were sent to those Slavic regions to 'Turkify' those Balkan lands. As soon as conversion to Islam happened whether due to marriage or to avoid heavy taxation, they became 'Turks'. A lot of those families which were ethnically more Slavic than anything else(like the Ottoman Royals) were moved to western Turkey after WW1, because somebody married a muslim at one point and they were branded as 'Turk'. Greeks on the other hand weren't relocated as much as Turks under the Ottoman Empire and had a tendency to marry within themselves, as they had a really large diaspora, and more ethnically aware than Turks. (The Turkish identity only arrived after the secular Republic, before than it was all about Islam) Majority of today's Turkey is a mixture of Greek/Slavic/Persian/Arab/Kurdish/Armenian/Eastern Asian. It really depends on where your family was from pre-Turkish Republic. In fact if you go to Istanbul (where 1/5th of Turks live) and someone asks you where are you from? They won't accept Istanbul as an answer, because there was literally only a handful of Turks living in Istanbul until 1922, despite being the Empire's capital. That question actually means, what part of the Ottoman Empire you were from. I've been to Greece at least 6 times, as I have family there, I was shocked how dark they really are as a country. Darker than those originate from Western Turkey (it is all mixed now in Turkey too, very few ethnic towns left mostly in North, ethnic Greeks and Georgians and Armenians that hate Greece and Armenia because they are muslims and will deny that they are :) ). So to answer your question : I can only assume it's the Slavic effect the Greece never had. DNA test on Greek people also shows some North African effect, which is not there for Turks. On the other hand if you look at the Turkish that were from to Eastern Turkey(Turks in Central and Northern Europe mostly fall into this category) they are a lot more Semitic looking than Greeks.
They don't. Greeks had the same look for thousands of years, some Turks got mixed up a little bit. Greeks look like Mediterraneans / Southern Europeans.
The guy at the start said that us Greek Cypriots are not concerned about their elections, but we are Because that's the a major place where out hope for unification comes from, agreement with the other side
So the Turks have only been in Cyprus for 300 years how did they take it over and put it under Ottoman rule? Bring gifts and charming the Greeks? You know already who started the killing 😂
Funny, If the first guy is actually a "Cypriot" as they claim and not a Turkish settler he would have known that the Republic of Cyprus is legitimate. He's old enough, he was a citizen of this country.
Giorgos Apoel the first guy is 100% Turkish Cypriot. most of the Turkish Cypriots respects republic of northern Cyprus and they want to be controlled by their own government .not by greek Cypriot government! And yes they know republic of Cyprus is legitimate government of Cyprus but at the same time they support their own government in North Cyprus.
Well this is our country lol. They have to deal with the fact that the majority is Greek. Imagine if all of a sudden black people of America decided they no longer wanted to be ruled by a "white" government and they declared independence on US soil. They had voting rights and to be honest they were quite privileged for a mere 18% of the population. You can't just build a country on a country, it's illegal. But what's even more problematic is that they don't actually have their own government. They are not autonomous and they are not independent. Occupied Cyprus is 100% depended on Turkey for everything. Army, imports, economy, even electricity, water, food. Is this the "freedom" and democracy they seek? Democracy made in Turkey? Are you telling me that a westernized, true democracy and true independence with freedom of speech and expression rights in the actual government was is so bad that they 'd preferred to be controlled by Turkey?
re giorgos there are over 200.000 Turkish cypriots lives in england, 50.000 in other countries and over 500.000 turkish cypriots lives in turkey. remember cyprus was under ottoman rule almost 400 years!!! and when ottomans rented cyprus to British in late 1880's many ottomans immigrated back to turkey.. than population of cyprus changed. cyprus was never greek island. it was Byzantines for 800 years but as you know byzantines weren't greeks they were greek speaking Europeans and anatolians.. and remember ottomans took the island from Venetians not from greeks ;)
my friend TC has their own parliament president ministers councils etc...and they are all Turkish Cypriots!!and they speak for turkish Cypriots!! they are not from turkey! same as any developed modern country. yes turkey supports TC but we TC pays them back...they dont send anything to TC's free. we do business between us. you must understand that TC will never accept to be ruled by GC as a minority!!! we dont trust GC!! do you know the history? TC's were prisoners in their own country. threatened by EOKA supporters, most of them had to leave their homes and stuck in 1% of the island until 1974!! we prefer to live same as it is than be minority and live in a fair!! we want federation AND IF EVERYTHING GOES well and we can learn to live work together and gain trust than cyprus can be united in the future
Oh I forgot you guys like making your own version of history. First off, provide evidence for the stats you just gave. Second, provide evidence for your claim that Byzantines weren't Greek, when they were speaking Greek, had Greek names, Greek religion, Greek culture and most importantly, claimed to be Greek. Cyprus has been Greek since the Bronze age you moron. We call it Bronze age for the pottery that was used at the time. And that pottery is strongly Mycenaean-influenced, giving hard evidence that at the time Greeks undoubtedly inhabited the island. The concept of a Turk wasn't even a thing until a few millenniums later. Cyprus had a lot of tribes conquering it, however there's nothing to suggest that the conquerors actually slaughtered every single citizen in order for them to NOT be Greek. On the contrary, the island kept its connections to Greek cities throughout the years with a lot of archaeological findings from each age confirming that. So yeah, a lot of conquerors came, a lot of them left, Turkey is just one of them. At least that's what history suggests... real history, with real evidence and real facts. But there's not even a need for archaeological evidence. Just take the family tree of most Cypriots, actual Cypriots. Families older than the ottoman empire.
What is the problem now? no more killings no more mistrust no troubles no nothing my mate comes from the North near apostle Andreas monastery every time he goes to Cyprus he goes to the North n he became friends with a young Turkish bloke born in Cyprus one day he asked my mate how many years you lived here answer 20 B4 i immigrated to Britain the young bloke said to him well i lived here since i was born 35 ago so who i more Cypriot LOL so my mate had no answer people born there are Cypriots np no solution needed they live in the North we live in the south n we can both visit each other's place when we want to what is the problem? why blame the Turks when Fascist Sampson started it all in the first place? n If Turkish troops did not go into Cyprus most Greek leftist nTurks would a been killed live n let live in peace
British started this mess by arming and training Turkish Cypriots police and Rauf Denktash and told him to bomb Turkish Mosques and ministry offices to blame Greek Cypriots British also told Turkey they would have no problem if Turkish agents bombed Attaturks birthplace Salonica Greece September 1955.When Greece protested at UN at this treaty violation US and Britain told Greece to move on.Greece fought two world wars with both
No more killings? What about the Solomon murder? The displacement of 200,000 Greeks from their ancestral homes?The most fertile land all the industry were seized by the Turkish army and given to the Turkish Cypriots? Now after 45 years they still blame the Greek side and blame them for all their problems .
The problen is that if the Turkish settlers leave, 70% of our population will have left which will literally destroy our economy. As much as I want peace, there is no way the Turks can leave the island at this point
:) Isn't it interesting that Greeks and Turks (only live in Anatolia) still do not aware that both of those nations are brothers and sisters genetically...! And ancestors of almost 90% of today's Anatolian Turks were originally Greek and changed their religion (from Christian to Muslim) and their language (from Greek language to Turkish language) during last 500 years...! Wake Up!! Look at mirror!!!
That is a very common tale in Greece that no one gives a sh*t in Turkey Greeks assume that the very Turks that came to Anatolia should have looked like Mıngolians ,why not try to check with Azerbaijani Turks who are the descendants of the exact Turkish tribes that came to Anatolia and had nothing to do with Greeks in their histıry. After doing that why not check the mirror and ask yourself the same question...
@@SuperKafooo Cyprus was first settled by GREEKS IN 6.000 BC! Learn history! The 10 nation-cities were at 670 BC! 9 were GREEKS and 1 was Phoenician! Type on Google "cyprus ancient cities" and learn some history. Clap, clap, congrats.
Some migrated from Turkey because we were almost instinct because of you! How else are we supposed to build. Your ancestor are from Greece itself you’re Greek !
@@melis2645 Yes I know my ancestors, as I am from Greece, Athens. And we know that Great Alexander Conquered the Ottoman Empire so we have our responsibilities too. It is just that some far left-wing Cypriots say "We are not greeks, we are Cypriots" without knowing history, just because they blame Greece's government for 1960 and 1974 events that we left them unprotected. But we didn't vote that garbage military junda and most of us certainly didn't vote the old Karamanlis. Where are you from by the way?
It's all quite simple: Cyprus is historically Greek. Turkish forces in Cyprus are illegal and have no right to be there. Imagine if a few million Germans settled in Constantinople/Istanbul and then Germany decided to invade Turkey to protect the rights of their citizens. Would this be acceptable? This is what happened in Cyprus in 1974. There was no problem with the Turkish Cypriots. Of course the UK and USA bear the majority of the blame because they not only refused to stop Turkey, but encouraged the Turks to invade. Kissinger prevented the US sixth fleet from intervening.
What the fuck you talking about asshole? It was not greek and will never be Greek. Fuck USA and UK who give care about them. This is not USA or UK land , it's Turkish. Uneducated bitch
Lol F this F that, I can invade another country but I won't because there are laws. Since when has Turkey followed laws? As time goes on the truth slowly slowly starts to escape and the world can see it
@@MelbourneMobileDetailing Actually, the Turks invaded with the blessing of the hypocritical Brits and Americans who wanted the island to be divided as it suits their purposes, i.e. British bases and a foothold in the Middle East. I am hoping they will lose their bases in Cyprus soon after Brexit.
@@NewCalculus I don't think anything will ever change. Cyprus is considered the unsinkable battle ship and everyone wants to setup their bases there. Turkey has just completed their naval shipping yard in the North. They aren't going anywhere anytime soon my friend
@@MelbourneMobileDetailing there are international laws. What is going on Macedonia , Greece said you have to change the name. The question is what the hell is wrong with Greece? Greece and Turkey are neighbours, we have respect each other. It's all about respect your neighbours.
Ofcourse TC want to live seperately.. their motherland Turkey arranged for them 44% of the island. Why would they want solution? Now they have their independence, their rules, that's what they wanted from the beginning! So, why are they complaining about the solution? They don't want a solution, they just want recognition for their side. Any different opinion from a TC is welcome.
lol Turkish Cypriots, speak Turkish with a Greek accent, even though they probably don't know any Greek. My grandma, whose first language is Greek and from Istanbul, speaks the same way.
Luc Aux and greek cypriots talk like Turkish if you compare with mainland Greece. That’s because 2 communities were living side by side for nearly 500 years isolated from foreign cultures and peoples.
Modern Turkish language is speaking Turkish with Greek accent. Turkish has Greek accent anyway. Other turkic languages sound like Japanese and russian as far as you can hear. It is because greek assimilation.
what most turkey Cypriots don't understand is that whom ever get elected in the north he does not have a say,only turkey tells what to do so no matter in we Greek Cypriots want something good to happen turkey will not allowed it
How can they be Cypriots? They are not the took our country 45 years ago. They are turks that migrated to cyprus when Turkey stole 40% of the Cypriot land
its doesnt matter about politicians in soulthern cyprus The problem is nationalist far right greeks We divided because of them we still didn’t became one because of them
Meanwhile gray wolves and convicted murderers are running for office in the puppet state. Have you seen the video of 50 Turkish "cypriots" including cops beating a Cypriot to death? When was the last time the far right took real action in Cyprus? During the coup of 1974? Yes the far right it's what's keeping us appart.
If turkey removes their army from Cyprus there will be a solution has long has turkey army remains no solution I would love the Greeks Cypriots-and turkish - Cypriots to mix again we are brothers not turkey !!!
Well, cinar are you in favor of reunification or not? You want to "reunify" the island and have the turkish army next to you too. That's not a solution. Pick and choose it's not rocket science.
Praetor Trantoris you are not even Cypriot and you don't understand. Both Turkish and greek Cypriots don't trust eachother!! we need years to gain back trust again!! And remember TC population is only 200.000 and greek Cypriot population is about 800.000. and there are about 100.00 extremist eoka supporters who believes Cyprus should unite with Greece and they believe Cyprus is a Greek island!! If Turkish army leaves and Cyprus unites again who is going to protect Turkish Cypriots against this extremest eoka supporters??!! We need turkey supports and they should stay as a guarantor nation to protect Turkish Cypriots until people start to trust eachother and learn to live without fight again!!
Ed Sed first federation once we have e federation people will start trusting eachother,do business with eachother..get married etc..once we gain the trust than their can be united cyprus .and remember turkey offered only 800 soldiers to stay in Cyprus and they accept 1000 greek soldiers that can stay in Cyprus but still greek Cypriot government refused it!! We don't trust GC and we need turkey to protect us .end of story!
Excuse me but why do you think that a federation also means turkish troops on the island? Federation without turkish or greek troops, that's a solution. If you want any foreign powers on the island don't call it a solution, simple as that. We can have a transitional time where some troops remain, but the final product should be a completely independent island, 0 troops from any country. Otherwise we cannot call ourselves a normal country nor that we "solved" the problem.
yes i agree with that but for a short while we need some troops for protection until we all understand that we can all live in peace and we dont need any foreign troops. turkey and TC offered only 800 troops for 10 years and after 10 years we offered to remove troops if everything works fine.but we will never giveup Tjurkey asa a guarantor nation. you must understand that we dont want to be like next Palestine!!! we need some kind of guarantor protection!!! but GC they disagree with any troops staying in cyprus or guarantor nations. TC and turkish cypriots we agree that england greece and turkey should stay as a a guarantor nation. whats wrong with that?? its a big game.we all know that as soon as turkey leave Cyprus and they are not guarantor nation fanatics will put greek flag on kyrenia mountains!! we all know that!! there are many fascist extremists GC in south of cyprus!! would you take a risk if you were turkish cypriot?? no you wont!!! we prefer to live same as it is than live in fair all the time. i hope you understand.
I know nothing about this conflict, but it seems like you need to be a very rude person in order to ask for a two states solution while you are a foreigner using a foreign language on someone's else land
Turkish Cypriots control the north, my family all live there, i have lived there and what's funny is you will not see one Turkish soldier roaming the streets, they watch their enemies from the mountains :)
sorry my dear first friend,Greek Cypriot side is the one that all nations accept and negotiate,your side is been recognized only by your mother land turkey,so who is what is very clear. And one more info,unfortunately its not up to Greek-Cypriots or Turkish-Cypriots for the solution but to the 'peacemakers'of the world(USA,England,Germany,France)etc🤨
Who the fuck care about other nations and their recognition my friend that thing will never change the fact that northern Cyprus is controlled by turks and no damn nation give a Fuck just they split their words to satisfy greeks
Occupation off north cyprus pesdo government used by Nato which republic off Cyprus turned down the deal off air bases at the time Turkey used as a pawn to powers at be.
KIBRISTA BARIŞ ENGELLENEMEZ. KIBRISLI RUM KARDESLERİMİZE SELAMLAR ! THEY CANT STOP THE SOLUTİON İN CYPRUS. GREATİNGS MY GREEK CYPRIOT FRIENDS AS A TURKISH CYPRIOT
Sanırım yaşın küçük ya da Türkiye'nin 74ten sonra Kıbrıs'a yerleştirdiği kürtlerdensin.58 yılını hatırlayın 74 yılını hatırlayın Türk ordusu Kıbrıs Türklerinin teminatıdır ruma güven olmaz Türk insanı yeni bir katliam görmek istemiyor
only solution is to become one strong country without any outside armies controlling us. why turkcypriots dont want that?? we give them electricity, water, european passports and many things to make them understand that only with us they can survive not with the turkish army that is killing peaceful protesters and is controlling everything there
Sooner all tc will wear headscarf and become very religious..they dont drink, they dont gamble they forgo everything for their God.. the distance will even wider and there is no possibility for reunification!
TC are open minded people and they follow Ataturk!! Ataturk brought Turkey secularism. TC will never wear headscarf or be religious . turkish Cypriots lives their religion privately and its between them and god
Turks are different from us especially religion turks worship fake god I don't hate Muslims I hate want they believe and teach Muslims brain wash people their control people's lives I don't like the Muslim fake religion their is no Allah !!! Only JESUS-PRAISE our lord-for he is only one !!!!!
@@cathydemosthenous8694 Turks believe in the same God you worship. You saying there is no Allah is saying there is no God to begin with. You ignorant dumbasses believe that Muslims worship a different God when we all(Jews,Christians, and Muslims) believe in the same God. Allah is the word for God in arabic its not a different God that Muslims believe. Also Muslims believe in Jesus as well and he is mentioned in the Quran many times.
@@cathydemosthenous8694 You dumb ignorant piece of crap. Allah means God in Arabic. It is not a separate God to Christian but the same God. Also God in Turkish means Tanri.
What a moronic thing to say. Greeks look more Asian than Turks? Greece is a country in south eastern Europe therefore we are European. Greeks look more similar to Italians and Spaniards. Turks on the other hand who are darker are generally nomadic people who originated from central Asia (also known as the Seljuks). Open a history book and maybe do some research on genetics before replying to me with such stupid garbage. Also it is not "racism" but facts. Don't try to turn the argument around with meaningless buzzwords.
Also Cyprus has been Greek Byzantine long before Turks arrived in Anatolia. There is no such thing as "Turkish Cypriots" because they are not native to Cyprus. Simple. If anything they are Greek Cypriots who are Muslim and have been raised as Turks with fake "Turkish" identity.
@nötrino Don't offend us, it's very racial. I know that Μάριος Μακεδόνες did this as well and I know that it was bad We should not offend the other nation, we should just say arguments to support our opinion
@Hajra Turan How we are African Greeks. The north African people has almost no common with the Greek DNA, they speak Arabic language they believe in Islam. We speak Greek with a different alphabet and believe in christianity
The fact that Turks look like Greeks and Greeks look like Turks, it overs me
Ye
..they chieck our DNA ..found it similar ...!
I just wanna clear some stuff up, These were all Turkish Cypriots not Turks. We are two seperate races, our accent is pretty noticable compared to Turks
@@ganymede8257 ..yes D'r ..! for them we are talking about .YOU SHOULD KNOW ..that their" roots"/ turkish cypriots /..are , at least the 1/3 of them ..were christians terned to muslims BECAUSE of the havie taxes during ottomans ..., even their villages have still christian names , ..!
@@mariosmario1048 I am aware of that, my hometown is actually Glavia. Although most of the nothern side is muslims currently, we as cypriots are gernerally not as religious as the rest of the muslims in the world (we are actually called a phrase that means fake muslim by many Turks)
I was born in London. My parents were born in Egypt from Greek Cypriot parents . In Egypt Greeks were so accepted and loved. It can happen in Cyprus. My GP is Turkish she is a lovely and a great doctor. Love from London
Did you know that Greeks from Greece see Cypriot Greeks as fakes?!
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Keep dreaming. By the way the fact that your turkish doctor is a nice person means nothing at all.
Of course bro Greece 🇬🇷 & Egypt 🇪🇬 are old friends ❤
Greeks were actually kicked out of Egypt in the 1950s
"There arent any places with walls like these left in the world...i want these gone too"!!My respects to this lady From Athens.Thats a true "mother" talking.
why turks look more european than greeks ?
Zalden N beacause this are not turks
They do not .-.
I think this is true (I am from a Greek family of Istanbul), and I have a long a** theory about this, there it goes if you're interested. Turkey is one of the most ethnically weird countries in the world.
Ottomans invaded lots of Slavic countries. And lots of people from Anatolia were sent to those Slavic regions to 'Turkify' those Balkan lands. As soon as conversion to Islam happened whether due to marriage or to avoid heavy taxation, they became 'Turks'. A lot of those families which were ethnically more Slavic than anything else(like the Ottoman Royals) were moved to western Turkey after WW1, because somebody married a muslim at one point and they were branded as 'Turk'. Greeks on the other hand weren't relocated as much as Turks under the Ottoman Empire and had a tendency to marry within themselves, as they had a really large diaspora, and more ethnically aware than Turks. (The Turkish identity only arrived after the secular Republic, before than it was all about Islam)
Majority of today's Turkey is a mixture of Greek/Slavic/Persian/Arab/Kurdish/Armenian/Eastern Asian. It really depends on where your family was from pre-Turkish Republic. In fact if you go to Istanbul (where 1/5th of Turks live) and someone asks you where are you from? They won't accept Istanbul as an answer, because there was literally only a handful of Turks living in Istanbul until 1922, despite being the Empire's capital. That question actually means, what part of the Ottoman Empire you were from.
I've been to Greece at least 6 times, as I have family there, I was shocked how dark they really are as a country. Darker than those originate from Western Turkey (it is all mixed now in Turkey too, very few ethnic towns left mostly in North, ethnic Greeks and Georgians and Armenians that hate Greece and Armenia because they are muslims and will deny that they are :) ).
So to answer your question : I can only assume it's the Slavic effect the Greece never had. DNA test on Greek people also shows some North African effect, which is not there for Turks. On the other hand if you look at the Turkish that were from to Eastern Turkey(Turks in Central and Northern Europe mostly fall into this category) they are a lot more Semitic looking than Greeks.
They don't. Greeks had the same look for thousands of years, some Turks got mixed up a little bit. Greeks look like Mediterraneans / Southern Europeans.
Zalden N they are Turkish of course what are you expecting
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Cyprus is greek NEVER PEACE GIVE ME BACK MY HOUSE AND MY FAMILY
The guy at the start said that us Greek Cypriots are not concerned about their elections, but we are
Because that's the a major place where out hope for unification comes from, agreement with the other side
funny how the older people don’t like the Greeks but the younger people were hoping for peace
Because greek gangs killed thnsds civilians, even children womans and elders
Not funny. The elderly people are more experienced about greeks.
Because the younger folks don’t remember the war.
No one can forget the civilian Turkish people killed between 1963 and 1974. It belongs to the Turkish Cypriot nation.
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So the Turks have only been in Cyprus for 300 years how did they take it over and put it under Ottoman rule? Bring gifts and charming the Greeks? You know already who started the killing 😂
Greeks never lived on cyprus island. They were brought there över bu Greece. Turks used to live there since the 15. Century.
Funny, If the first guy is actually a "Cypriot" as they claim and not a Turkish settler he would have known that the Republic of Cyprus is legitimate. He's old enough, he was a citizen of this country.
Giorgos Apoel the first guy is 100% Turkish Cypriot. most of the Turkish Cypriots respects republic of northern Cyprus and they want to be controlled by their own government .not by greek Cypriot government! And yes they know republic of Cyprus is legitimate government of Cyprus but at the same time they support their own government in North Cyprus.
Well this is our country lol. They have to deal with the fact that the majority is Greek. Imagine if all of a sudden black people of America decided they no longer wanted to be ruled by a "white" government and they declared independence on US soil. They had voting rights and to be honest they were quite privileged for a mere 18% of the population. You can't just build a country on a country, it's illegal.
But what's even more problematic is that they don't actually have their own government. They are not autonomous and they are not independent. Occupied Cyprus is 100% depended on Turkey for everything. Army, imports, economy, even electricity, water, food. Is this the "freedom" and democracy they seek? Democracy made in Turkey? Are you telling me that a westernized, true democracy and true independence with freedom of speech and expression rights in the actual government was is so bad that they 'd preferred to be controlled by Turkey?
re giorgos there are over 200.000 Turkish cypriots lives in england, 50.000 in other countries and over 500.000 turkish cypriots lives in turkey. remember cyprus was under ottoman rule almost 400 years!!! and when ottomans rented cyprus to British in late 1880's many ottomans immigrated back to turkey.. than population of cyprus changed. cyprus was never greek island. it was Byzantines for 800 years but as you know byzantines weren't greeks they were greek speaking Europeans and anatolians.. and remember ottomans took the island from Venetians not from greeks ;)
my friend TC has their own parliament president ministers councils etc...and they are all Turkish Cypriots!!and they speak for turkish Cypriots!! they are not from turkey! same as any developed modern country. yes turkey supports TC but we TC pays them back...they dont send anything to TC's free. we do business between us. you must understand that TC will never accept to be ruled by GC as a minority!!! we dont trust GC!! do you know the history? TC's were prisoners in their own country. threatened by EOKA supporters, most of them had to leave their homes and stuck in 1% of the island until 1974!! we prefer to live same as it is than be minority and live in a fair!! we want federation AND IF EVERYTHING GOES well and we can learn to live work together and gain trust than cyprus can be united in the future
Oh I forgot you guys like making your own version of history. First off, provide evidence for the stats you just gave. Second, provide evidence for your claim that Byzantines weren't Greek, when they were speaking Greek, had Greek names, Greek religion, Greek culture and most importantly, claimed to be Greek. Cyprus has been Greek since the Bronze age you moron. We call it Bronze age for the pottery that was used at the time. And that pottery is strongly Mycenaean-influenced, giving hard evidence that at the time Greeks undoubtedly inhabited the island. The concept of a Turk wasn't even a thing until a few millenniums later. Cyprus had a lot of tribes conquering it, however there's nothing to suggest that the conquerors actually slaughtered every single citizen in order for them to NOT be Greek. On the contrary, the island kept its connections to Greek cities throughout the years with a lot of archaeological findings from each age confirming that. So yeah, a lot of conquerors came, a lot of them left, Turkey is just one of them. At least that's what history suggests... real history, with real evidence and real facts.
But there's not even a need for archaeological evidence. Just take the family tree of most Cypriots, actual Cypriots. Families older than the ottoman empire.
What is the problem now? no more killings no more mistrust no troubles no nothing my mate comes from the North near apostle Andreas monastery every time he goes to Cyprus he goes to the North n he became friends with a young Turkish bloke born in Cyprus one day he asked my mate how many years you lived here answer 20 B4 i immigrated to Britain the young bloke said to him well i lived here since i was born 35 ago so who i more Cypriot LOL so my mate had no answer people born there are Cypriots np no solution needed they live in the North we live in the south n we can both visit each other's place when we want to what is the problem? why blame the Turks when Fascist Sampson started it all in the first place? n If Turkish troops did not go into Cyprus most Greek leftist nTurks would a been killed live n let live in peace
British started this mess by arming and training Turkish Cypriots police and Rauf Denktash and told him to bomb Turkish Mosques and ministry offices to blame Greek Cypriots British also told Turkey they would have no problem if Turkish agents bombed Attaturks birthplace Salonica Greece September 1955.When Greece protested at UN at this treaty violation US and Britain told Greece to move on.Greece fought two world wars with both
No more killings? What about the Solomon murder? The displacement of 200,000 Greeks from their ancestral homes?The most fertile land all the industry were seized by the Turkish army and given to the Turkish Cypriots? Now after 45 years they still blame the Greek side and blame them for all their problems .
The problen is that if the Turkish settlers leave, 70% of our population will have left which will literally destroy our economy. As much as I want peace, there is no way the Turks can leave the island at this point
Lol some Turks think their government is real in Cyprus
Beautiful Northern Cyprus
. Wonderful country & people.
Ain't a country more like occupied territory.
@@dimitrisanonymous1858 if we look at it with that logic, south cyprus was occupied by gayreece
@@altan4450 yes. Like 2000 years ago. And we still speak the language.
:) Isn't it interesting that Greeks and Turks (only live in Anatolia) still do not aware that both of those nations are brothers and sisters genetically...! And ancestors of almost 90% of today's Anatolian Turks were originally Greek and changed their religion (from Christian to Muslim) and their language (from Greek language to Turkish language) during last 500 years...! Wake Up!! Look at mirror!!!
That is a very common tale in Greece that no one gives a sh*t in Turkey Greeks assume that the very Turks that came to Anatolia should have looked like Mıngolians ,why not try to check with Azerbaijani Turks who are the descendants of the exact Turkish tribes that came to Anatolia and had nothing to do with Greeks in their histıry. After doing that why not check the mirror and ask yourself the same question...
They are mainland Turks alot of them migrated from Turkey
Seems a census is needed.
Cyprus was first settled by Phoenicians. So give Cyprus back to Lebanon then.
@@SuperKafooo Cyprus was first settled by GREEKS IN 6.000 BC! Learn history! The 10 nation-cities were at 670 BC! 9 were GREEKS and 1 was Phoenician!
Type on Google "cyprus ancient cities" and learn some history. Clap, clap, congrats.
Some migrated from Turkey because we were almost instinct because of you! How else are we supposed to build. Your ancestor are from Greece itself you’re Greek !
@@melis2645 Yes I know my ancestors, as I am from Greece, Athens. And we know that Great Alexander Conquered the Ottoman Empire so we have our responsibilities too.
It is just that some far left-wing Cypriots say "We are not greeks, we are Cypriots" without knowing history, just because they blame Greece's government for 1960 and 1974 events that we left them unprotected. But we didn't vote that garbage military junda and most of us certainly didn't vote the old Karamanlis. Where are you from by the way?
It's all quite simple: Cyprus is historically Greek.
Turkish forces in Cyprus are illegal and have no right to be there.
Imagine if a few million Germans settled in Constantinople/Istanbul and then Germany decided to invade Turkey to protect the rights of their citizens. Would this be acceptable?
This is what happened in Cyprus in 1974. There was no problem with the Turkish Cypriots. Of course the UK and USA bear the majority of the blame because they not only refused to stop Turkey, but encouraged the Turks to invade. Kissinger prevented the US sixth fleet from intervening.
What the fuck you talking about asshole? It was not greek and will never be Greek. Fuck USA and UK who give care about them. This is not USA or UK land , it's Turkish. Uneducated bitch
Lol F this F that, I can invade another country but I won't because there are laws. Since when has Turkey followed laws? As time goes on the truth slowly slowly starts to escape and the world can see it
@@MelbourneMobileDetailing Actually, the Turks invaded with the blessing of the hypocritical Brits and Americans who wanted the island to be divided as it suits their purposes, i.e. British bases and a foothold in the Middle East.
I am hoping they will lose their bases in Cyprus soon after Brexit.
@@NewCalculus I don't think anything will ever change. Cyprus is considered the unsinkable battle ship and everyone wants to setup their bases there. Turkey has just completed their naval shipping yard in the North. They aren't going anywhere anytime soon my friend
@@MelbourneMobileDetailing there are international laws. What is going on Macedonia , Greece said you have to change the name. The question is what the hell is wrong with Greece? Greece and Turkey are neighbours, we have respect each other. It's all about respect your neighbours.
Ofcourse TC want to live seperately.. their motherland Turkey arranged for them 44% of the island. Why would they want solution? Now they have their independence, their rules, that's what they wanted from the beginning! So, why are they complaining about the solution? They don't want a solution, they just want recognition for their side. Any different opinion from a TC is welcome.
i mean.. for real , who cares for the other side's election? as long as we live peacefully .. let it be
lol Turkish Cypriots, speak Turkish with a Greek accent, even though they probably don't know any Greek. My grandma, whose first language is Greek and from Istanbul, speaks the same way.
Luc Aux you are talking shit my friend.
Luc Aux and greek cypriots talk like Turkish if you compare with mainland Greece. That’s because 2 communities were living side by side for nearly 500 years isolated from foreign cultures and peoples.
Hmm as someone with Turkish mothertongue, I can tell them apart, they don't sound very alike imo
we have people of Greek descent in Istanbul, and especially old ones accent is not like tthat. Greek tongue is more stronger. I don't agree with you.
Modern Turkish language is speaking Turkish with Greek accent. Turkish has Greek accent anyway. Other turkic languages sound like Japanese and russian as far as you can hear. It is because greek assimilation.
what most turkey Cypriots don't understand is that whom ever get elected in the north he does not have a say,only turkey tells what to do so no matter in we Greek Cypriots want something good to happen turkey will not allowed it
ΖΗΤΩ Η ΚΥΠΡΟΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΕΛΛΑΣ
@ÖLÜMLÜHAYATBUGÜNVARSINYARINYOKSUN I don't speaking with cowards
@Hajra Turan offend a nation is racial, I would appreciated if u call us Hellenes and neither Gayreeks nor Ethiopians
@Ntres wtf no
How can they be Cypriots? They are not the took our country 45 years ago. They are turks that migrated to cyprus when Turkey stole 40% of the Cypriot land
TSD PAPA CYPRUS IS GREEK FOREVER MUSLIMS GO OUT
Paschalis Iordanous what are you talking about?
They arent even wearing headscarf?
bruv we, Cypriot Turks been here for 500 years get used to it already
@Saddey do you know how you came 500 years ago maybe by war? So shut your mouth God is watching from above you won't be safe believe me
@@stavrospapa634 ahahahahahahha okay bro God is watching that's why i should shut up what an amazing argument
its doesnt matter about politicians in soulthern cyprus
The problem is nationalist far right greeks
We divided because of them we still didn’t became one because of them
I agree the religious far right of greek has been preaching racism and islamaphobia far years
Meanwhile gray wolves and convicted murderers are running for office in the puppet state. Have you seen the video of 50 Turkish "cypriots" including cops beating a Cypriot to death? When was the last time the far right took real action in Cyprus? During the coup of 1974? Yes the far right it's what's keeping us appart.
If turkey removes their army from Cyprus there will be a solution has long has turkey army remains no solution I would love the Greeks Cypriots-and turkish - Cypriots to mix again we are brothers not turkey !!!
Well, cinar are you in favor of reunification or not? You want to "reunify" the island and have the turkish army next to you too. That's not a solution. Pick and choose it's not rocket science.
Praetor Trantoris you are not even Cypriot and you don't understand. Both Turkish and greek Cypriots don't trust eachother!! we need years to gain back trust again!! And remember TC population is only 200.000 and greek Cypriot population is about 800.000. and there are about 100.00 extremist eoka supporters who believes Cyprus should unite with Greece and they believe Cyprus is a Greek island!! If Turkish army leaves and Cyprus unites again who is going to protect Turkish Cypriots against this extremest eoka supporters??!! We need turkey supports and they should stay as a guarantor nation to protect Turkish Cypriots until people start to trust eachother and learn to live without fight again!!
Ed Sed first federation once we have e federation people will start trusting eachother,do business with eachother..get married etc..once we gain the trust than their can be united cyprus .and remember turkey offered only 800 soldiers to stay in Cyprus and they accept 1000 greek soldiers that can stay in Cyprus but still greek Cypriot government refused it!! We don't trust GC and we need turkey to protect us .end of story!
Excuse me but why do you think that a federation also means turkish troops on the island? Federation without turkish or greek troops, that's a solution.
If you want any foreign powers on the island don't call it a solution, simple as that.
We can have a transitional time where some troops remain, but the final product should be a completely independent island, 0 troops from any country. Otherwise we cannot call ourselves a normal country nor that we "solved" the problem.
yes i agree with that but for a short while we need some troops for protection until we all understand that we can all live in peace and we dont need any foreign troops. turkey and TC offered only 800 troops for 10 years and after 10 years we offered to remove troops if everything works fine.but we will never giveup Tjurkey asa a guarantor nation. you must understand that we dont want to be like next Palestine!!! we need some kind of guarantor protection!!! but GC they disagree with any troops staying in cyprus or guarantor nations. TC and turkish cypriots we agree that england greece and turkey should stay as a a guarantor nation. whats wrong with that?? its a big game.we all know that as soon as turkey leave Cyprus and they are not guarantor nation fanatics will put greek flag on kyrenia mountains!! we all know that!! there are many fascist extremists GC in south of cyprus!! would you take a risk if you were turkish cypriot?? no you wont!!! we prefer to live same as it is than live in fair all the time. i hope you understand.
I love when the instigators start the problem then act as if they are the victims
Which group are you talking about with this comment?
I know nothing about this conflict, but it seems like you need to be a very rude person in order to ask for a two states solution while you are a foreigner using a foreign language on someone's else land
@ No offense, I just pulled it off having no knowledge about this conflict.
But what did you not get?
a portion of cyprus is U.K. sovereign land. you are actually the rude person as you are commenting without knowing the full details. idiot
אני מבין מה אתה עושה כאן
@@tFighterPilot חח
loool an israeli who say that
At this point of history, Cyprus' political regime should be like Switzerland's.
There's no reason for Turkey to control the north of Cyprus.
@Fatih Yavuz people don't understand that land is for everyone and that it's given to all of us for a short time.
tell that to Erdogan tho
Maybe you should worry about UK instead
Turkish Cypriots control the north, my family all live there, i have lived there and what's funny is you will not see one Turkish soldier roaming the streets, they watch their enemies from the mountains :)
My love for our accent grew with these elderly people so much
sorry my dear first friend,Greek Cypriot side is the one that all nations accept and negotiate,your side is been recognized only by your mother land turkey,so who is what is very clear.
And one more info,unfortunately its not up to Greek-Cypriots or Turkish-Cypriots for the solution but to the 'peacemakers'of the world(USA,England,Germany,France)etc🤨
Who the fuck care about other nations and their recognition my friend that thing will never change the fact that northern Cyprus is controlled by turks and no damn nation give a Fuck just they split their words to satisfy greeks
sssiktirrr inshallah
Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
monkoll monkoll ssssikyirrrr pilaffff inshallah
Doesn’t exist 💀😂
@@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή 1974 be like:
🤣🇹🇷👉👌🇬🇷😩
@@makistavern5312hoşştt
Occupation off north cyprus pesdo government used by Nato which republic off Cyprus turned down the deal off air bases at the time Turkey used as a pawn to powers at be.
KIBRISTA BARIŞ ENGELLENEMEZ. KIBRISLI RUM KARDESLERİMİZE SELAMLAR ! THEY CANT STOP THE SOLUTİON İN CYPRUS. GREATİNGS MY GREEK CYPRIOT FRIENDS AS A TURKISH CYPRIOT
Sanırım yaşın küçük ya da Türkiye'nin 74ten sonra Kıbrıs'a yerleştirdiği kürtlerdensin.58 yılını hatırlayın 74 yılını hatırlayın Türk ordusu Kıbrıs Türklerinin teminatıdır ruma güven olmaz Türk insanı yeni bir katliam görmek istemiyor
only solution is to become one strong country without any outside armies controlling us. why turkcypriots dont want that?? we give them electricity, water, european passports and many things to make them understand that only with us they can survive not with the turkish army that is killing peaceful protesters and is controlling everything there
Peace and love to you from a Christian Greek Cypriot
@@omer9797 allah için bırak bu düşünceleri. Rumlara güven olmazdan daha ırkçı birşey söyleyemen zaten. Insanlar değişir
@@spyantreas we do want that! At least most of us. It's just that most of the people fear that the EOKA mission will repeat itself
2:51 bu tek doğru değil. Yani başka diyecek bişey, yok tek doğru değil😐
oh ım turkish cypriot and i want United Cyprus
0:52 Too cute
Fuck yes
Our women are both beautiful and can/will break spines, trust me
Not
To stupid more like.
these people make my blood boil
What name of beautiful girl
Settle down Don Juan
Serefsiz
I envisage Trump would do more harm to Turkey in the coming months.
Trumps fucks your arab hole
Sooner all tc will wear headscarf and become very religious..they dont drink, they dont gamble they forgo everything for their God.. the distance will even wider and there is no possibility for reunification!
TC are open minded people and they follow Ataturk!! Ataturk brought Turkey secularism. TC will never wear headscarf or be religious . turkish Cypriots lives their religion privately and its between them and god
Turks are different from us especially religion turks worship fake god I don't hate Muslims I hate want they believe and teach Muslims brain wash people their control people's lives I don't like the Muslim fake religion their is no Allah !!! Only JESUS-PRAISE our lord-for he is only one !!!!!
So true !!!
@@cathydemosthenous8694 Turks believe in the same God you worship. You saying there is no Allah is saying there is no God to begin with. You ignorant dumbasses believe that Muslims worship a different God when we all(Jews,Christians, and Muslims) believe in the same God. Allah is the word for God in arabic its not a different God that Muslims believe. Also Muslims believe in Jesus as well and he is mentioned in the Quran many times.
@@cathydemosthenous8694 You dumb ignorant piece of crap. Allah means God in Arabic. It is not a separate God to Christian but the same God. Also God in Turkish means Tanri.
الله أكبر 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Fuck off we arent arabs..
sssksta na fas inshallah,, sissssikyirrr
come back to mongolia
Ryomyong Taedong we will be come back to atina tselaniki grecee are Turkish land
The Turks are not Mongolian
@@B.SanBey anatolia is Greek
alexander the great was macedonian and not greek 🇲🇰🇲🇰
@esatsgrckoglu8876 Alexander the Great was a Greek Macedonian he spoke Greek this is a fact he was no Slav or Albanian the audacity 😂
There is no thing as "Turkish Cypriots". Turks are Seljuks from central Asia.
Vasileios Porros they are turkish cypriot. You looking probably more asian than turkish people belive me racism is not solve anything.
What a moronic thing to say. Greeks look more Asian than Turks? Greece is a country in south eastern Europe therefore we are European. Greeks look more similar to Italians and Spaniards. Turks on the other hand who are darker are generally nomadic people who originated from central Asia (also known as the Seljuks). Open a history book and maybe do some research on genetics before replying to me with such stupid garbage.
Also it is not "racism" but facts. Don't try to turn the argument around with meaningless buzzwords.
Also Cyprus has been Greek Byzantine long before Turks arrived in Anatolia. There is no such thing as "Turkish Cypriots" because they are not native to Cyprus. Simple. If anything they are Greek Cypriots who are Muslim and have been raised as Turks with fake "Turkish" identity.
Vasileios Porros cool story. I’m gonna visit magusa next week turkish republic of cyprus. Bye
Vasileios Porros ottoman ?
Yy
Greek and rum are crying
Huuu huuuu huuu 😭😭😭😭😭
Cyprus is Greece
turkgays
Μάριος Μακεδόνες 😂😂😂sifono
No U
@nötrino Don't offend us, it's very racial. I know that Μάριος Μακεδόνες did this as well and I know that it was bad
We should not offend the other nation, we should just say arguments to support our opinion
@Hajra Turan How we are African Greeks. The north African people has almost no common with the Greek DNA, they speak Arabic language they believe in Islam. We speak Greek with a different alphabet and believe in christianity