Hi guys! Elena here, the journalist who produced this. A little disclaimer: the Cyprus problem is truly complex, so the views expressed here don't have the aim to describe those of an entire community. We know that the experiences of Greek and Turkish Cypriots can differ vastly, so please voice your opinions while remaining respectful of other users' perspectives. Thank you for watching!
Elena, I wish the video mentioned the "Turkish Federated State of Cyprus" that preceded "TRNC." "Turkish" Cypriots had other administrations before "TRNC," but the transition from the federated state to "TRNC" was a critical one--in a very negative way for "Turkish" Cypriots and Cyprus in general.
@@hsevay Hey! Thanks for your comment! You're right, we mentioned the TRNC was declared only in '83, but wish we had more time to go into the specifics
Dear Elena, congrats on your work. With all due respect, i would not agree, however, that the Cyprus issue is truly complex. On the contrary, it is quite simple and straightforward. What is all about? It's about abolishing the Republic of Cyprus and allowing Turkey's boots to step on Cyprus's soil. This crime was carefully devised BEFORE the establishment of the Republic. That's why in the foundation agreements there were provisions for guarantors and intervention rights. That's why the Turks of Cyprus were upgraded from a minority to a community in the Constitution. That's why the Greeks of Cyprus were downgraded from a majority to a community constitutionslly equal to the minority. That's why Turkey provided armaments and training to the Turks of Cyprus while the Greeks were almost totally unarmed. That's why the Turks of Cyprus turned their guns against the Greeks, provoking them, inducing them to defend themselves, playing the victims of the Greeks. NATO decided to abolish the state and placed Cyprus under the boots of NATO member States. They cheated when they proposed the establishment of a Republic (instead of the demand by the Greeks for Enosis). They cheated because they knew in advance that there were all necessary mechanisms in place that would lead such state to total failure. Such design was, yes, diabolical complex. But triggering the outcome was so simple as could be executed even by a child. Set up the so-called TC community, provide them weapons, impose on them a brutal leadership so no one TC will object (remember those TC who disagree with their leaders), provide intervention rights to Turkey, set the TC to attack the population, see the Turkish hordes landing on Cyprus's ground and the rest can be depicted by the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. Look what they have done in the occupied areas since 1974. It's wrong. They do not occupy the areas. They turkify them. It's much worse. They bring settlers. The changed the names of towns. They destroy our cultural heritage. They destroyed our churches, even the graves of our grandfathers. Like a growing cancer. And they are proud of it. That's what they are. That's what the Cyprus issue is about. And they achieved all this with the strong support of the western civilised Christian countries. Look how they reacted against the Russian invasion of Ukraine and how gently the treat Turkey in relation to its invasion of Cyprus. It's disgusting. Isn't it? Disgusting but simple. Not complex at all. Please forgive me. I failed to mention the notorious Acheson Plan and the dictatorship imposed over the people of Greece. "If the Greek Government does not agree, we (USA) will change the Greek Government" they said. And they changed it. 😠
@@enentr Sude, if I spell her name correctly, if she is a real turkish Cypriot can have Cypriot citizenship and passport. Every turkish Cypriot has all the rights of a Cypriot citizen. Of course this is not happening for turkish settlers from "motherland" turkey.
@@yiannispalamas1307 Hi Yiannis, Sude is the child of a mixed marriage - a marriage between a Turkish Cypriot and a Turkish national. As such, she can't obtain the citizenship of the Republic of Cyprus, despite being born and raised in the country.
Sude said "I have never been in Turkey in my whole life "in 6:21 but her Linkedin profile said she is graduated from Gazi University Faculty of Medicine in 2018 (in Ankara-Turkey) and Anadolu University Faculty of Political Sciences (in Eskişehir-Turkey.) That's AT LEAST 10 years of study in Turkey. Why are you lying Sude?
Also, University is free for KKTC Citizens in Turkey but it's paid for citizens of other countries. If you don't like Turkey, why did you took university here? Why did you benefit from free education paid for from my taxes?
She never lived in Turkey, Sude said she continued her studies remotely. There is no other place where she could have gone, because she has no passport or ID Card and the only country recognising the TRNC as such is Turkey.@@shinitai-
Medical education takes 6 years in TR. Did she become a doctor from a distance? Don't talk nonsense. Maybe she may have taken certain courses remotely during Covid. @@enentr
If Turkish soldiers hadn't left their wives and children behind in 1974 and gone to Cyprus to fight to save her grandfather, Sude probably wouldn't be there to speak about "occupation". I'm sorry Sude, you may feel European, but that doesn't change the fact that you are Turkish, when the "Annan Plan Referendum" was held in 2004, Turkish Cypriots voted yes to unification, while Greek Cypriots voted no. The people of Cyprus may rightfully be disturbed by the actions of some Turks who went to Cyprus from Türkiye and may complain about some other political things but at the end of the day, remember that we are your friends, realize what you have experienced in the past and be a little grateful. Greetings from İstanbul to all peaceful people of Cyprus.
Stupid arguments. Annan plan was very unfair to the Greek Cypriots. The plan gave equal represent of the Turks and Greeks even though The Ratio of Turks to Greece was about 1:4. Furthermore Most Turks in the north are not Cypriot Turks but settlers from the mainland Turkey who came after 1974. The deal even allowed Turkish troops to remain on the island. Basically the deal allowed Turkey to militarily occupy the islands and let the people who were loyal to Turkey to control the government. Why should have the Greek Cypriots accepted such a lopsided deal?
@@ChickenVeggi Annan Plan Referendum was planned by United Nations even de name of Annan Plan Referendum comes from secretary Kofi Annan who planned it so go explain your ideas to United Nations, besides it wasn't an argument in my comment, just an example. After the ethnical clean endeavors and "enosis" idea thousands of Cyprus Turks leave their homelands and emigrated to Türkiye or necessarily moved to North side of Cyprus, your are giving ratio and speaking about Turks settlered from Türkiye but you can't ignore the truth that Cyprus Turks was the real victims of the whole process and my comment was for some grandchilds of them who are extremely ungrateful to Türkiye, if Ayşe didn't go on vacation or the Turkish government had never intervened in the situation you'd probably be giving 1: 40 (optimistically) ratio now so ı don't understand what you find stupid ?
"Be a little grateful" Grateful of what? Turkish occupation? That benefits no one except turkish nationalists who wish the ottoman empire still existed.
The problem is not ethnic. Its political . Some People on both sides of the border share the same nationalistic ideologies that are keeping us divided . As a Greek Speaking Cypriot, i can tell our brothers from the North , there are hundreds of thousands of people who want a reunification so you can have a better quality of life and we can live together in peace .
The problem is unfortunately ethnic. A Greek is a Greek a Turkish is a Turkish. I don't believe that there exists a common umbrella identity of being Cypriot even if there used to be, these days it's not palpable.Take the example of Oresti and Sude, they have nothing in common, it's nearly impossible for them to come across each other in social circles. They study in different countries, they speak different mother tongues, they have different values towards life even moral values are different due to the effect of the religion even though Turkish Cypriots are more secular than Greek Cypriots which is evident as the first president of the Republic of Cyprus was Makarios. All in all, only thing that unites them is their zeal to get across to the other side. Orestis thinks of this as a claim of territory, Sude takes this as a claim of identity in the form of acceptance a piece of paper to tell her she is Cypriot real Cypriot to travel abroad, for orestis the land of her Giagia left in the North, a childhood fairy tale
@@nonamenoname2767could you please explaine why the British of Turkish Cypriot origin do not demand a separate State within the UK? Say, a Turkish Republic of Southern England?
Are there borders? And North? And brothers? Really? And your standard of living will be high under an environment which guarantees the continuation of the violation of every single principle of human rights? I am impressed.
@@phk1959 what do you call the barbed wired and road blocks that divide the island in two ? Yes north the same way Paphos is on the West , Famagusta on the East and Larnaca on the South Yes brothers for a million reasons Any questions left unanswered ?
Cyprus is not divided, the northern part is forcefully and illegally occupied by turkey that won't leave even though 95% of Cypriotes want them to leave so they can live free in their own country! Suffering the ottoman yolk should never be considered peaceful because, it was also a forceful occupation that enslaved the Christian majorities all over Asia Minor and South Eastern Europe that forced conversions to Islam and then turkification for millions of christians by way of mohammads sword; this is why the turks of asia minor and nearby areas like cyprus don't look Turkic like the Mongols Japanese koreans and other Asians do, it's because they are mostly forcefully islamized Christians from the Eastern Roman Empire or Byzantine Empire as the germans call it
Here the girl says she has never lived in Turkey. But she studied medicine in Turkey. I've never heard such nonsense in my life. There is no such thing as studying medicine remotely in Turkey.
@@gnulecturesillegal? After the independence of Cyprus from Britain, both Greece and Turkey had the right to militarily intervene in case the independence was threatened. And it was threatened. Eoka kicked Makarios and placed Sampson. Go search who Sampson was then talk.
@@hp3rtv eoka b EOKA B When you talk about EOKA you talk about an entirely different historical period One was fighting for freedom, the other to take over and this is generally accepted by most greek cypriots DONT FUCKING CONFUSE EOKAS AGAIN I'll remember your name I don't wanna catch you lacking again my guy
I am from Taiwan and I visited Northern Cyprus two weeks ago. Landing in at the Ercan airport and staying in the Lefcosa, I crossed the border two times. My feeling is that people were just happy about having peaceful lives and hopefully making more money. At nights. I enjoyed seeing young people sitting and chatting with each other in a coffee street that literally adhered along the buffer zone which was wide enough to house a football court. I also spent time in Girne, a beautiful seashore where an old castle stood majestically.
@@paschalisiordanous4937 there is no Greek in Cyprus ,Greek Cypriots are Greek by the church they belong to. Christians of Cyprus is left behind from diferent people who ruled Cyprus over the centuries,
As a Brit with a paternal grandmother who is Turkish Cypriot. When I did a DNA test it doesn't show up as Turkish, or Greek. It comes up as CYPRIOT. I know that my Grandmother grew up in Limassol speaking Turkish AND Greek. All Cypriot culture and all of Cyprus is my culture - greek and turkish. Cyprus should be one and the occupation must end.
Usually these tests only showcase DNA and genetic make up based only on recent DNA. In fact DNA in Greece also includes Albanian, Bulgarian and Romanian DNA which Greek Cypriots don't have. So Cypriot DNA is a very confused term. In fact Greek Cypriots share a very close genetic proximity with the Aegean Islands and Cretans (the Greek Cretan population is the closest genetic make up apart from Cypriot in my DNA). The fact that Turkish Cypriots have a common pre-Ottoman ancestry with the Greek Cypriots only proves that they are local people who converted, due to many reasons and used to be Greek. However nowadays after many decades and three hundred years they have completely adopted the Turkish culture and thus ethnically they are Turkish. Which of course they are is nothing wrong with it and should be respected along the other cultures of Cyprus.
@@azmhyr There is such thing as Cypriot DNA just like how there is such thing as Irish, Sicilian and Sardinian DNA. Cyprus genetically is more isolated than Greece, Balkans. Medieval Greece and Balkans received a lot of Slavic admixture and later Greece received a lot of Albanian and Vlach admixture. Cypriots are the closest people genetically to ancient Greeks from 2000 years ago
@a_Gorilla117 I have my doubts about the isolation of Cyprus, given that it was frequently conquered by foreigners. Cypriot DNA would simply suggest that there is a separate ethnicity of some such. It's precisely this kind of thinking that allows the linobambaki to advocate for a sanitized Cypriot identity without any Hellenic element. Similarly for Sicily, it's been held by so many different people across history, it would be far fetched to claim its a cluster on its own.
DNA isnt that important you know that right? Who cares about the DNA if the other side is talking completly different language. Most ethnicities are mixed and none of them are pure. This proves that culture and language is more important than DNA.
Isn't it ironic? Turkey ends up footing the bill for various aspects of your grandparents' lives, and yet the USA imposes an embargo on Turkey for this very reason. Does that really justify labeling Turkey as an occupier? Take a look at the photos depicting the situation on the Turkish side before the Turkish military intervention. It's likely that you wouldn't even exist if Turkey hadn't provided crucial assistance during that time...
Sude seems to have forgetten what had happened before 1974. One thing I can assure you though is that, she couldn't talk here now if Turkey had not intervened. Learn from your history Sude, From another Turkish Cypriot.
We should all learn from history, that's true, and learning from history often means not repeating the mistakes of the past, and not being forever defined by the past. That's what a United Cyprus is. The EU, Cypriot government and Greek Cypriots pose no threat to Sude in 2024 in any way. All of us in the European family of nations want to see a United Cyprus where people like Sudan aren't prisoners of Turkish nationalism and settler collonialism that they want no part of.
@@TheThOdOr1s While I agree with your words on importance of not repeating the past's mistakes I would slightly disagree with you on Turkish Cypriots like Sude being “prisoners of Turkish nationalism". I'm a Turkish Cypriot myself. I was born and brought up in North Cyprus and absolutely no one is prisoners of Turkish nationalism in Cyprus. Turkey provides us with money and fresh water. The only thing I would criticise about Turkey is the fact that they repopulated the North of Cyprus with the Kurds who are mostly supporting a terrorist organisation called Pkk and also bringing ignorant Turks from the mainland instead of bringing in more intellectual and smart Turks from west Turkey.
@@TheThOdOr1sSettler colonialism? There were Turks who settled after peace operation. But before 1974 %19 was already Turkish who live there mearly 400 years. Greeks arent natives too. Also Turks are more positive to unification. Maybe try to search about Annan Plan Repherandum? There would be new federal state and Cyprus would finally unite. Most Turks said yes in repherandum. But most Greeks said no. Say all of these to Greeks. Turks are more positive and less selfish. Greeks just want all island for theirselves.
@@borangoren8947Inner Antolians and Mediterranian Anatolians are more educated. Northerns arent bad too. But Easterners suck. But whoever, most Turks were gathered from Karaman, which was between Mediterranian and Inner. Those Kurds and Easterners probably came theirselves.
I'm a Crimean Turk and I totally feel for the Cyprus problem. I believe all young generation of TRNC should learn greek to an advanced level if they can so that they can better explain their side and come to good terms with their neighbors to prove a perfect humanity example. No wars or no fanatics of neither side should come triumphant. Love Greece and Turkey
North Cuprus is not occupied but freed territory. If Turkey did not intervene in 1974, the TC lady in this video would not have existed as her parents would have been exterminated by EOKA whose only aim was to turn Cyprus into Greek Island.
I am a Greek Cypriot and I can tell you that EOKA was a coup organization that took over Cyprus and Turkey used it as an excuse to invade my country ,΄[
It's certainly free for those who came from mainland Turkey and stole the homes in the North. Turkey is just like Zionist Israel in this conflict. Yet I'm sure you actually support the Palestinians in that particular conflict.
I hope they can protect what is truly important, it is good to hear what they think about it. Thank you for the video, it has an amazing quality. You make something so hard to understand a little bit more simple for people that have never been there
sude's father is from turkey, but sude feels she doesnt belong to turkey, and calls turkey as occupier, let's think about this, you are born to a turkish father you were given a turkish name, you live with turkish people, you go to a turkish university, you speak turkish, you dream in turkish, the world see you as turkish, so called cyprus state see you as turkish and dont give you a passport, and you say you dont feel turkish and want turkish people leave the island. this is either inferiority complex or stupidity.
The Turkish Cypriots are the victims not the Greek Cypriots who STARTED the war and wants to join Cyprus with Greece. They don't want a independent Cyprus, they want a Greek Cyprus. You never hear the Greeks complain about Britain on the island.
Hi, if you’ve watched the video you’ve seen there’s no finger pointing from either side. They want peace, a solution, and a united Cyprus free from external influence, be that British, Greek or Turkish.
These are personal opinions, and as we specified, they do not represent those of an entire population regarding a subject that is so complex and divisive - your opinion isn’t representative either.
@@famweber8893 It doesnt really matter. If we go by that logic Americans should leave it and give it back to Natives. Thats not how it works. Turks stayed there for 400 years which isnt little.
@aegonskywalker TRNC is fully independent of Turkey? They pump 500 million a year into your economy? The population in the North has more mainlanders than Cypriots? Turkey builds on Cypriot land selling it to mainlanders thus not boosting the Northern Cypriot economy? Independent you say 🤣🤣🤣
How the youth of today live in cuckoo land Cyprus was divided and remains divided because the Americans and the British wanted it so to satisfy their political aims on the Eastern Mediterranean and importantly in the Middle East, that's the reason that the maintenance of the SBAs is vital and paid for by the Americans for sure as Britain can no longer afford to keep them . Reunification is a pipe dream and will not be achieved in my lifetime. The Turkish army occupies a sovereign country, a full member of Europe whilst the European Union stands by idle and at the same time negotiating with the Turks to become a member!. Europe is a laughing stock around the world, it is high time for countries to go their separate ways, move away from American control and stop regarding Russia as the enemy.
Turkish inclusion into the EU is a non starter as long as Erdoğan is the president. He also wants to take over Syria and commit a genocide against Kurds. Hopefully the CHP takes over soon and re-secularizes/moderates Turkey's influence. I dont mind them having a sphere of influence, but Erdoğan wagging his finger at Israel while occupying North Cyprus and plotting an actual genocide against Kurds is hilarious.
Amazing video, but something to know: Sude (the girl being interviewed), living in Northern Cyprus, is automatically a Republic of Cyprus citizen. Therefore, she can get a Cyprus passport by default. Sude and any Turkish Cypriots who are BORN in Northern Cyprus and whose parents have roots on the island are automatically Republic of Cyprus citizens. The Republic of Cyprus passport is internationally recognized, and Sude can use it to travel to Europe and the world. The Republic of Cyprus recognizes all Turkish Cypriots as its own citizens. I think Sude already has the Republic of Cyprus passport, but she does not admit that she has it in this interview.
Hi there, thanks for the comment! While it is true that Cypriots born in the Republic, regardless of being TRNC citizens, have the right to a passport, that's not true for children of mixed marriages, which is Sude's case. One of her parents is Turkish Cypriot, but the other is Turkish, so this doesn't give her the right to the passport of the Republic of Cyprus. That of the children of mixed marriages is a hugely complicated matter in Cyprus!
@@enentr appreciate your reply! That’s why If you have already read my comment carefully I said “Turkish Cypriots who are BORN…and whose parents have roots on the island are automatically Republic of Cypres citizens” but I did not know Sude’s other parent is Turkish from mainland Türkiye. Now it makes sense. Thank you again! 🙏🏻
The problem is indeed quite complex, with no simple solution. The political guarantees Turkish Cypriots would need to accept unification could leave the union politically gridlocked, and Greek Cypriots unhappy for the disproportionate influence. This is why the Annan Plan failed - it gave both sides veto power and equal number of judges, as far as I know. Also, the presence of Turkish settlers is left open, and it has no solution that pleases everyone.
Turks and other Muslims of the Island will eventually leave as it will be unbearable to live under the excesses of the TC, who are already mistreating Muslims in the north, Kurds and Pakistanis are openly treated as inferior workforce and Turks are underpaid and often forced into unequal and unfair rent contracts. As such, Turks and other Muslims of the North must flee to another Muslim country which is Turkey. We should bear the brunt of the responsibility and help the refugees as best as we can by offering them new homes. All TC's must be declared persona non grata in Turkey and barred from entry. It has already begun and we're finally banning some TC's from entering Turkey. Hopefully we will leave the island soon as well.
Why are you so eager to call it an occupation? Has any of the involved parties ever suggested any other solution to systematic murdering of Turkish Cypriots by EOKA? As a Turkish Cypriot I am not happy to live under the shadow of Turkey but let's not forget how Greeks, Greek Cypriots and the UK pushed Turkish Cypriots there! What would happen if Turkey had not intervened by using it internationally recognized right as a guaranteur country? What have the Greek Cypriots done to reunify the island?
@@hozk_ Why do you think that you are entitled to our support? What makes you think that you actually deserve it in the first place? You're not our kin, neither are you Turks nor Muslims. Why is it that millions in Turkey still believe that we went to Cyprus to save our brothers from certain death?
The solution is so easy: both the Greek and Turkish forces need to leave and allow Cyprus to be its own country, free from any occupation. It should no longer be a Greek territory or a Turkish territory but given to the people of Cyprus. ALL of Cyprus. They already know how to live in peace together.
was one year old at the time. We ( Mum & Dad & Siblings) lived in a council estate in central London where growing up during that time & the 1980’s being told to go back home. We would love to
Both sides made mistakes...if someday they decide to teach at schools the real history of our island then there is hope that one day in a lot of years we can all live together...I don't have a problem ofcourse but for most people to accept this it will take a lot of years
Well real history is Greeks lowered the rights of Turks and Turks rebelled. EOKA wanted Enosis but Turks didnt. So conflicts and conflicts. Then a man who wants Enosis (i dont remember the name) came and it was againist aggrement. So Turks attacked.
How can you say the turks and the greeks lived in relative harmony during the ottoman empire ?! The turks CONQUERED the Greeks, the latter trying to get rid of them from even before they invaded… If the ottoman empire was a peaceful cohabitation for you then i guess we should say the same of any colonial empire
During the rule of the Ottoman Empire, Turkish Cypriots were never a minority in Cyprus until the beginning of the 1800s. Therefore, please refrain from providing false information to the people or conducting interviews with only 2-3 individuals, as they do not represent the majority of the population.
@@tolefko I don't know your recommendation but I will definitely look for it. However, I strongly recommend referring to A History of Cyprus by Sir George Francis Hill, who was the director and principal librarian of the British Museum from 1931 to 1936. Hill emphasized that, under both Ottoman and later British rule, Turkish Cypriots comprised a significant demographic group in Cyprus, typically representing about 30-40% of the population compared to Greek Cypriots. Given this substantial presence, it is inaccurate to refer to Turkish Cypriots as a minority in Cyprus. Turkish Cypriots maintained a distinct community identity and role, especially under the Ottoman Millet system, which organized communities by religious affiliation and allowed a degree of administrative independence within each group. This system enabled Turkish Cypriots to preserve their cultural and religious identity while coexisting with the Greek Cypriot population on the island. What I know is that, following the strict Colonial policies of the 1930s, implemented after the “1931 Cyprus Greek Revolt,” and later fueled by Greek Cypriots' aspirations for ENOSIS, a campaign of violence against Turkish Cypriots emerged in the 1950s. The political instability, ethnic cleansing, and violence of the 1960s ultimately led to a significant Turkish Cypriot forced them to immigrate from the island.
at 10.44 you can see at the sign the grammatical mistakes in the words "EYROPIAN" (instead of EUROPEAN) and "PASSPOT" (instead of PASSPORT) . The authorities can't even spell proper English !
Hi Irene, it can be both north and occupied. Hence why we repeatedly called it the “occupied north”. Thank you for your comment, hope you’ll watch the full video :)
@bigboyrambo2581 the Greeks do not occupy anything. If the Turkish withdraw there is no reason for the Greeks to stay. As for the British they have either to pay the rent the owe or to leave.
@HuseyinArclar-jo1wr I hope one day your country is invaded and occupied by another bigger country. And then Remember this comment you just made. As for the properties of the Turks of Cyprus in the free area of Cyprus, are always at their disposal. They are entitled to own and use them. Nobody has taken their properties. There are no occupying troops in the free part of Cyprus. Have a nice day...
@@bigboyrambo2009 is this comment of yours, a message from His Excellency the Sultan of Turkey? I doubt. Because I do not think that Mr Erdoğan and Turkey's deep state will agree with your 50-50 proposal . They want it all. Their stomach is too large to be fed and satisfied with the 50% only. Read the leading work of your Nihat Erim. The retaking of Cyprus. Their karagioze Tatar says it every day. "2 states, next to each other, COOPERATING AMONG THEMSELVES". Turkey's plan is to make Cyprus AS A WHOLE its own protectorate in Eastern Mediterranean. If it is only half, it doesn't work. Understand?
Ridiculous that a few politicians over 50 years ago, got greedy, made money from stiring up a conflict, then retired, but the aftermath is that normal, kind, human beings (on both 'sides') are still prevented from getting along to this day.
We have something similar in Moldova near Romania. Moldova is a part of Romania stolen by the Russians which are strongly influencing it and trying to put it through a process of russification. Your problems seems to be solved but its complex yes... A lot of problems appear for the weaker countries which can't seem to decide there own fate/situation.
Moldova does want to be a part of Romania but Transnistria doesn't (it wasn't historically Romanian), and Gagauzia will only accept entering Romania if they'll stay autonomous. But if so, the Hungarians of Szekely land will want autonomy too.
That's why these ethnic conflicts are indeed in reality very complex, and oversimplifying them would be bad. Maybe some Moldovans do want reunification and feel Romanian and so would feel that's historical justice and self-determination... But what about the Gagauz people for example? They don't share this perspective at all... For them it could be viewed as the opposite. Therefore there isn't one right or wrong side of this conflict. Except of some side decides to escalate and start being violent and disproportionate.
@@gamermapper You make it complex its actually simple. Moldova is Romania and it should be back with Romania as a whole. You take small issues and make them big. We already have cities of hungarians in Romania, no1 is dying over that.
As an Azerbaijani turk I think both Greek and turks in Cyprus should unit and live under one Republic in peace and harmony........ because they all belong to that land ❤......
From my analysis, the problem with the Turkish speaking Cypriots stem from the amount of mainland Turks entering daily and assimilating themselves as the lady spoke. The amount of Turkish speaking Cypriots keeps dropping daily, I can't imagine what will be of them in 10 years time.. probably extinction. Cyprus is for the Cypriot.
Typical TC tactics of creating panic. This whole "we'll be extinct" stuff was been circulated since the 1980s, to create a sense of urgency within Greek Cypriots. To force them to accept a solution that is not in their favor. TC's are like Emirati Arabs in UAE. Cruel taskmasters, touch one and you're f*cked. Get into a fight with one and you'll end up in jail but he won't suffer a single damn consequence. He could kill you and get scott-free. Unless, of course, you're a Brit. In that case, you're untouchable.
@@beardlong8235 greek? bro you are just talk like turks, eat like turks, look like turks. you are just christian turks. Your traditions are same. Only different religion. Cyprus was controlled by romans, muslims, turks etc. is there any greek country controlled cyprus?
The problem is not between the Greek and Turkish Cypriots on the island, the problem is Turkey's invasion and occupation of the northern area of the Republic of Cyprus, dividing the island, and the illegal Turkish colonists who outnumber the pure Turkish Cypriots. Turkish occupation troops and setlers (colonists) out of Cyprus, and the reunification of the island for the the benefit of ALL CYPRIOTS. Turkey's actions in Cyprus have been: INVASION, OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING, COLONISATION
You explained the period before 1974 very briefly. This was really important. You must explain what Greece is doing. You did not say that Turkey's intervention in the island was a necessity. Cyprus President Makarios has a statement. He said that Greece was responsible for what happened on the island.
The problems of Cyprus have been caused by outside influences, including the CIA. Cyprus is a victim of it's geographical location and has been described as ''the unsincable aircraft carrier''
@@panostheodoulou1166 I dont need what it stands for. They were fighting British with guerilla tactic and worked for the independence of Cyprus. When they gained they wanted Enosis and started to ki@ Turks who are againist Enosis. I dont need what it stands for, for what they did and what is their goal. In most sources i watched and read all of them says EOKA so its normal for me to not know it.
@@odez5412 You're wrong again. You make comments when you don't know the facts. Also you should digest the video more as well. The blond lady in the video is Turkish Cypriot, and she feels part of the Republic of Cyprus not part of Turkey's occupation in Cyprus. There are more colonists from Turkey in the occupied north than there are Turkish Cypriots. Also I'm not sure if you are Turkish Cypriot or from Turkey.
@@panostheodoulou1166 I am a Turk from Anatolia. And she is just a European lover. European lovers also exist in Turkiye. For example they just go to places with foreign restaurants and cafes like Starbucks (You can just see how empty are local cafes even though they are not worse than Starbucks and at least have waiter service) and trying to prove they are European all over the internet. And from the comments made by Turkish Cypriots in this video's comment section you can see that they dont like Greeks. Also i am not wrong. EOKA did lots of bad things and massacred lot of Turks. And she totally forgot about these and saying she is European. But her language is coming from Central Asia, not Europe. She is denying her Turkishness even though her father is Turkish and mother Turkish Cypriot. She says she isnt living in Turkiye and because of that she is denying her Turkishness but says she is European even though she lives in Asia. Such a west lover. At least Arab lovers dont exist in North Cyprus. They are worse than Europe lovers.
what would have happened, if the Turkish army did not displaced the Greek Cypriot population how the things could be ? I am pretty sure someone was a MI6 agent to destroy the island and divide into two.
while the brits were their there was violence all the time now since Turkiye is there everyone including the greeks live in peace and there has been no violence since 1974 so be thankful turkiye is there and will stay
@@lenoseth no mate the UN are on a long holiday and got no powers it’s the Turkish army you should thank since they been there the Greeks have to behave
@@kazali8950 If the Turkish Army left today I doubt anything would change over night. I think the Cypriot government would want to find an amicable solution first without the hindrance of others meddling. Why because they would want to reassure the Turkish Cypriots
@johnchrys5716 No, they would simply March their troops into the territory controlled by the so called TRNC. If the Turkish speaking Cypriots are patriots they would welcome the Cypriot national guard as liberators with flowers and kisses.
I feel like the best resolution to this problem is for the people on the whole island to reunite and see their identity as Cypriots as a whole, stop dividing them by Greeks and turks because by doing that they let these countries have influence over them and divide them. No matter whether they are greek or turk ethnicity after all they are Cypriots in the first place. They do not come from either Greece or Turkey, they come from Cyprus and that whole island is their home. It doesn't matter if their culture traditions and religion are different they are all Cypriots which should be the main factor when creating a country. They should take an example from Bulgaria in Bulgaria there's many bulgarian turks, bulgarian Christians, bulgarian Muslims (pomaks) and Bulgarian roma people and they all consider themselves bulgarian and there has never been separatist movements, and everyone try to live peacefully with each other and respect the others traditions, religion, culture.
A bulgarian example come on, they put Turkish speaking Bulgarian citizens in buses and told them you are going to a journey and exported them to Turketçy by force and then these people after Bulgaria ascended to EU had some rights but with this trauma of the past, they continue to live out of Bulgaria and only go to renew their ids. Not a good and ideal example. The only difference in this story is that the Turkish Cypriots stayed on the North part of the country as it is now but this time the Greek Cypriots steal their ids and don't give citizenship to their children if they are married in north Cyprus to Turkey nationals or third country nationals.
@nonamenoname2767 Fun fact the majority of Turkish Cypriots lived in the south predominantly Paphos. They didn't have a presence in the North which was around 90% Greek
Omg! The boy talks about politics, fights, he does not forcing him doing accent etc. And the girl talks about shopping, drinking coffee, trying and forcing for english accent etc. i think if she was rich she does not botter about anything. i understand why south side dont want to unite with north.
To Turks living in Cyprus. Remember, no matter how much ''European'' or ''Cypriot'' you feel, people will still see you as a ''Turk''. So let go of the weak confused identity. Revel in your turkic ancestry and embrace the HORDE.
Turks living in Cyprus are not "Turkish Cypriots" who lived on the island prior to 1974. Turkish Cypriots are Latin Venetians who masquaraded as Muslims to get benefits from the Ottoman Empire. They can never be one of us.
Poor sude😢 maybe its s a good thing for you to stay away from southern side that has mcdonalds. If you get fit you can easily find h&m or bershka in turkey btw.
As a Greek Cypriot, I would like to congratulate this wonderful woman for seeking what is right for both sides. Long live Cyprus and all true Cypriots. Hopefully I'll be there next year.
The British did the same thing in India created a country called Pakistan. The same thing they did in Palestine, every country they left they created a mess. People need to wake up.
The division of Cyprus was planned BEFORE the establishment of the Republic (that's why the Agreements provided for "intervention rights" and even BEFORE any conflict between GC and TC. Such conflict was deemed to be necessary. So it was induced artificially from the outside. Tell us something about the "surrounding" environment. For example, the Istanbul polgrom against the Greeks and its link with Cyprus. Or about the following efforts of the external players to divide Cyprus, such as the notorious Acheson Plan. History is not a bedside story. If not complete and filled in with the crucial details it becomes a fake story. Unfortunately for the people of Cyprus and especially the GC who are the most tragic victims of the history of Cyprus, not just today but for every other period of time. Most TC are turkified Greeks of Cyprus during the Ottoman rulling. They are not settlers from Turkey or other Ottoman countries. Do your research. For the non historian layman there is a very informative and objective book on Google free to read. "The bloody truth on Cyprus". Have a look into it. It doesn't harm. Thank you.
Fun fact: Turks who have Greek DNA also have high Italian DNA. So you arent pure too. DNA doesnt matter. Your source is probably Urban legend. Greeks killed thousends of Turks. But Turkiye bringed peace. Turks are the victims and you are not.
If there was no operation called invasion, the elders of the family would be massacred in a bathtub, without women or children, as was done to the family of medical major Nihat Ilhan, if they were unlucky, and if they were lucky, they would be exiled to Turkey. If people had become Europeans by making their hair blonde, naturally blonde Bosnians would not have been massacred by Europeans a quarter of the way into the 21st century. Most of Cyprus is not like this. Cypriots who are old enough to live in ancient times are devoted to Turkey. But those who are under British influence see Turkey as an invader. Because they were born abundantly and did not experience massacres.
From the outside, it's so sad, it should be a lovely place to live, but the people of the Island messed it up. Everyone says they're Cypriots, but they can't all be. I would note that Turkey is zero chance of joining the EU, as it's getting more and more authoritarian.
Yes geographically but Cyprus is part of the European Union and its population is mostly of European ethnicity. So the Cypriots can call themselves European
@@dszxnavtiisx6384 I understand the political affiliation and ethnic affiliations but a country’s continent is based on geography. As a result, Cypriots are Asian. Would you consider Australia as apart of Europe? Most people there are of “European” descent and is apart of the Eurovision.
@@Coz57 Africa, Europe, and Asia are one continent. However, if we do divide Africa, Europe, and Asia into separate continents, Cyprus is clearly Asian. Cyprus is much closer to Anatolia, followed by Syria and Lebanon. Cyprus is even closer to Africa than Europe as well. Islands are associated with its closest continental landmass regarding its continental designation. Cyprus is clearly closest to the Asian mainland. As well, the divide between Europe and Asia is along the Turkish straits, the Caucasus, and the Urals and the Ural River. Cyprus falls completely on the right side of the Turkish strait making it part of Asia.
permission to leave a comment: my suggestion is that you need more correspondents to answer your questions the more data and information they have and research that is the real answer
All Greek flags must be removed from the south and Turkiye flags from the north. All foreign troops must leave. Britain must leave Cyprus. UN must leave Cyprus. Cypriots language should be Greek and Turkish. Greek and Turkish Cypriots must share the government 50-50. Or just forget about a united Cyprus.
Lot of respect to Sude. 🙏 I'm a GC and my father left Varosha is '74. Orestis words represent me 100%. I truly want a reunification solution for all Cypriots but Turkey manage to change so much the demographics with settlers from mainland Turk, that such a solution scares me so much and seems really unviable! Unfortunately we born in a country that others have already made the desicions for us, and growing up is a constant search for identity and internal conflict of each ideology.
SUDE...My poor baby... get the Cypriot passport and drink Starbucks coffee. You are Cypriot. Right? The Republic of Cyprus is the state of the Cypriots. Right? Not the state of Greeks. So why they don't give you a passport? Greeks are the most democratic and most modern people of all ages. They never judge people by their religion their ethnicity by their language. Say that you are not responsible for the Turkish invasion. Say that you pray for Apollo and eat Mousaka. They will give you the passport
With all due respect, you know, the Cyprus debate becomes an unnecessarily heated and a divisive one when one inserts a Greek or Turkish flag or when one makes a positive reference to one side. It is a bit like praising German-speaking Swiss people in a sort of discriminatory way.. Just saying . With best wishes..😇
Ξέρεις είμαι από τους ανθρώπους που είναι ακόμα υπέρ της ένωσης. Αλλά ακούγοντας αυτά τα πράγματα, μου αλλάζουν λίγο τη γνώμη. Όντως το να μην επισκέπτεσαι ένα μέρος όντως είναι σαν να το παρατάς τους άλλους. Δεν ξέρω τι θησαυρός έχει η κύπρος γιατί δεν έχω πάει ποτέ μου αλλά δεν λεω όχι να την επισκεφτώ.
I don't agree with this Please tell the history with all its facts. Only hostility towards Turks is mentioned here. and cyprus has never been described as a whole Yes, Cyprus may actually be divided, but there is a common history, we call that history the Ottoman Empire. My request to you is that instead of dividing Cyprus into north and south, or rather Turkish, Greek or Greek, please describe it as a whole by looking at past history. I can easily say what I saw in the video. It was a video that smelled completely of hostility. You have completely distorted history and reality. I don't understand why you made this video without looking at the 1923 Lausanne Treaty. All agreements made are the guarantee of the security of the countries. Why don't you talk about the facts that happened in 1974? Please accept the facts, if Türkiye had not intervened, not even a single Turkish person would have survived in Cyprus. Please do not have hatred in your thoughts and do not instill your hatred in future generations, let everyone continue to live in peace.
I don't believe Sude is a Cypriot Turk. She lies about everything, including never having been to Turkey and the existence of a certain brand in Northern Cyprus. This entire film seems like another propaganda effort. If she hates Northern Cyprus, she has the option to live on the Greek side, get lost!
Today, 20 July, is the most horrific remembrance day in the history of Cyprus's people and one of the worst days for international law and justice of the mankind. 😢😢😢 NEVER FORGET
@mikewillis6033 are you referring to the USA ambassador in Nicosia in 1974? The most hated American diplomat by CIA (not to mention the State Department). Why this diplomat was not trusted by the CIA and the Department of State? Who had pulled the trigger? And why? Do your research...
@ugurosman4870 not exactly. Until 1974 Turkey oppressed only the TC. But since 1974 Turkey has been oppressing both the TC and the GC. So, if you want your freedom you have to unite with the GC and kick Turkey straight on her astra out of Cyprus. Good luck.
@HuseyinArclar-jo1wr if you are scared of the fanatics in the south, please try to imagine how much scared are the Greek Cypriots of the presence of the Turkish army in Cyprus and the intervention and guarantor rights of Turkey. That was one of the main reasons for the GC to reject the Annan Plan. If you combine the Turkish troops in Cyprus with the settlers (who are Citizens of Turkey) and the residuals of TMT you can understand the threat against the GC.
Being a Cypriot I believe is not just nationality It's also a state of mind It's a culture that you will never understand It's a culture developped over millennia to prove that truly we are a people nowhere else seen in the whole world We are proud as hell of that That's our entire national motto We do everything better, we are loud, we do not care It's a notion that no invader has been able to break in thousands and thousands of years That should be motivating because truly TRULY ΣΑΝ ΤΗΝ ΚΥΠΡΟΝ ΕΝ ΕΣΙΕΙ LIKE CYPRUS THERE IS NOTHING
Bro why dont you want to understand The real problem is people thinking like you why dont you want to be more realistic and talk about Türksat you killed rape you did before 1974 dont fool The goverment propaganda and listen Türksat too
She talked about the reasons -- being born in a mixed marriage in the TRNC means she only gets that citizenship, not the Republic of Cyprus' one. She also expanded on how she could get a Turkish one, and why she doesn't want it! It is indeed a very important topic.
@@enentrthe reason is not that she is the child of a mixed marriage. The true reason is that one of her parents entered and resided in Cyprus illegally. How can one expect the legitimate authorities to provide her a citizenship? Regardless of the fact that she hasn't done anything illegal to be blamed personally. This is indeed an unfortunate situation for which, however, the State has no responsibility.
@@phk1959 i guess his father side is from turkey, then why she is saying she doesn't feel she belong to turkey? it is same like you born in germany to turkish father and you dont feel turkish. okey then change your name from mehmet to hans? 🤣
@@enentr why cyprus government not issuing her a passport, i see many russians got their cyprus passports who never even landed on cyprus, but cyprus state denying passport to someone born to a greek cypriot mother who lived her whole life in the island. even this example shows how cruel cyprus government would be to turkish people if the island were united.
Belfast is in Northern Ireland, a country, where the sole authority is that of Northern Ireland, part of the United Kingdom. There are of course different communities with different wishes for their country, but there’s no other authority (which is the case for Cyprus). We just published a video about Northern Ireland, check it out!
Cyprus is.occupied bu UK,Greece and Turkiye,so after all this 3 removes the hand out of the island,maybe a solution can be achieved,otherwise nothing will change.😢it is not fair to call only north as occupied area,also south is an occupied area.
Hello, it's Sude here. I just want to make something clear that, i see Cypriots as a one, whole community. But our current living conditions in the occupation regime is not that good, as you might expect. Moreover, i have a problem called 'mixed marriage problem' and it even makes me more disadvantageous among other Cypriots.
You should have talked about the mixed marriage problem. This is also discrimination and assimilation which is result of Greek Cypriots policies against Turkish Cypriots.
@@cypriotkipria😂occupation ? Aren't you part of occupation as well since your father from Türkiye ? 😂 thus I bet you are more British than Cypriot since even your accent is literally British 😂
Hi guys! Elena here, the journalist who produced this. A little disclaimer: the Cyprus problem is truly complex, so the views expressed here don't have the aim to describe those of an entire community. We know that the experiences of Greek and Turkish Cypriots can differ vastly, so please voice your opinions while remaining respectful of other users' perspectives. Thank you for watching!
Elena, I wish the video mentioned the "Turkish Federated State of Cyprus" that preceded "TRNC." "Turkish" Cypriots had other administrations before "TRNC," but the transition from the federated state to "TRNC" was a critical one--in a very negative way for "Turkish" Cypriots and Cyprus in general.
@@hsevay Hey! Thanks for your comment! You're right, we mentioned the TRNC was declared only in '83, but wish we had more time to go into the specifics
Dear Elena, congrats on your work. With all due respect, i would not agree, however, that the Cyprus issue is truly complex. On the contrary, it is quite simple and straightforward. What is all about? It's about abolishing the Republic of Cyprus and allowing Turkey's boots to step on Cyprus's soil. This crime was carefully devised BEFORE the establishment of the Republic. That's why in the foundation agreements there were provisions for guarantors and intervention rights. That's why the Turks of Cyprus were upgraded from a minority to a community in the Constitution. That's why the Greeks of Cyprus were downgraded from a majority to a community constitutionslly equal to the minority. That's why Turkey provided armaments and training to the Turks of Cyprus while the Greeks were almost totally unarmed. That's why the Turks of Cyprus turned their guns against the Greeks, provoking them, inducing them to defend themselves, playing the victims of the Greeks. NATO decided to abolish the state and placed Cyprus under the boots of NATO member States. They cheated when they proposed the establishment of a Republic (instead of the demand by the Greeks for Enosis). They cheated because they knew in advance that there were all necessary mechanisms in place that would lead such state to total failure. Such design was, yes, diabolical complex. But triggering the outcome was so simple as could be executed even by a child. Set up the so-called TC community, provide them weapons, impose on them a brutal leadership so no one TC will object (remember those TC who disagree with their leaders), provide intervention rights to Turkey, set the TC to attack the population, see the Turkish hordes landing on Cyprus's ground and the rest can be depicted by the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. Look what they have done in the occupied areas since 1974. It's wrong. They do not occupy the areas. They turkify them. It's much worse. They bring settlers. The changed the names of towns. They destroy our cultural heritage. They destroyed our churches, even the graves of our grandfathers. Like a growing cancer. And they are proud of it. That's what they are. That's what the Cyprus issue is about. And they achieved all this with the strong support of the western civilised Christian countries. Look how they reacted against the Russian invasion of Ukraine and how gently the treat Turkey in relation to its invasion of Cyprus. It's disgusting. Isn't it? Disgusting but simple. Not complex at all. Please forgive me. I failed to mention the notorious Acheson Plan and the dictatorship imposed over the people of Greece. "If the Greek Government does not agree, we (USA) will change the Greek Government" they said. And they changed it. 😠
@@enentr Sude, if I spell her name correctly, if she is a real turkish Cypriot can have Cypriot citizenship and passport. Every turkish Cypriot has all the rights of a Cypriot citizen.
Of course this is not happening for turkish settlers from "motherland" turkey.
@@yiannispalamas1307 Hi Yiannis, Sude is the child of a mixed marriage - a marriage between a Turkish Cypriot and a Turkish national. As such, she can't obtain the citizenship of the Republic of Cyprus, despite being born and raised in the country.
Sude said "I have never been in Turkey in my whole life "in 6:21 but her Linkedin profile said she is graduated from Gazi University Faculty of Medicine in 2018 (in Ankara-Turkey) and Anadolu University Faculty of Political Sciences (in Eskişehir-Turkey.) That's AT LEAST 10 years of study in Turkey.
Why are you lying Sude?
Also, University is free for KKTC Citizens in Turkey but it's paid for citizens of other countries. If you don't like Turkey, why did you took university here? Why did you benefit from free education paid for from my taxes?
She never lived in Turkey, Sude said she continued her studies remotely. There is no other place where she could have gone, because she has no passport or ID Card and the only country recognising the TRNC as such is Turkey.@@shinitai-
Medical education takes 6 years in TR. Did she become a doctor from a distance? Don't talk nonsense. Maybe she may have taken certain courses remotely during Covid. @@enentr
@@enentr you can't took medical education "remotely"
Come on. Med school is not something that can be continued remotely.
If Turkish soldiers hadn't left their wives and children behind in 1974 and gone to Cyprus to fight to save her grandfather, Sude probably wouldn't be there to speak about "occupation". I'm sorry Sude, you may feel European, but that doesn't change the fact that you are Turkish, when the "Annan Plan Referendum" was held in 2004, Turkish Cypriots voted yes to unification, while Greek Cypriots voted no. The people of Cyprus may rightfully be disturbed by the actions of some Turks who went to Cyprus from Türkiye and may complain about some other political things but at the end of the day, remember that we are your friends, realize what you have experienced in the past and be a little grateful. Greetings from İstanbul to all peaceful people of Cyprus.
Stupid arguments. Annan plan was very unfair to the Greek Cypriots. The plan gave equal represent of the Turks and Greeks even though The Ratio of Turks to Greece was about 1:4. Furthermore Most Turks in the north are not Cypriot Turks but settlers from the mainland Turkey who came after 1974. The deal even allowed Turkish troops to remain on the island. Basically the deal allowed Turkey to militarily occupy the islands and let the people who were loyal to Turkey to control the government. Why should have the Greek Cypriots accepted such a lopsided deal?
@@ChickenVeggi Annan Plan Referendum was planned by United Nations even de name of Annan Plan Referendum comes from secretary Kofi Annan who planned it so go explain your ideas to United Nations, besides it wasn't an argument in my comment, just an example. After the ethnical clean endeavors and "enosis" idea thousands of Cyprus Turks leave their homelands and emigrated to Türkiye or necessarily moved to North side of Cyprus, your are giving ratio and speaking about Turks settlered from Türkiye but you can't ignore the truth that Cyprus Turks was the real victims of the whole process and my comment was for some grandchilds of them who are extremely ungrateful to Türkiye, if Ayşe didn't go on vacation or the Turkish government had never intervened in the situation you'd probably be giving 1: 40 (optimistically) ratio now so ı don't understand what you find stupid ?
@ChickenVeggi
And the TsC's still voted overwhelmingly positive on it. Even today they want that BBF bullshit. At the Greek's expense.
@@keremk4996 turkishcypriots they were Greeks once. They only turned to be muslims to avoid hard taxation and cruel abuse from the ottomans
"Be a little grateful"
Grateful of what? Turkish occupation? That benefits no one except turkish nationalists who wish the ottoman empire still existed.
The problem is not ethnic. Its political . Some People on both sides of the border share the same nationalistic ideologies that are keeping us divided . As a Greek Speaking Cypriot, i can tell our brothers from the North , there are hundreds of thousands of people who want a reunification so you can have a better quality of life and we can live together in peace .
The problem is unfortunately ethnic. A Greek is a Greek a Turkish is a Turkish. I don't believe that there exists a common umbrella identity of being Cypriot even if there used to be, these days it's not palpable.Take the example of Oresti and Sude, they have nothing in common, it's nearly impossible for them to come across each other in social circles. They study in different countries, they speak different mother tongues, they have different values towards life even moral values are different due to the effect of the religion even though Turkish Cypriots are more secular than Greek Cypriots which is evident as the first president of the Republic of Cyprus was Makarios. All in all, only thing that unites them is their zeal to get across to the other side. Orestis thinks of this as a claim of territory, Sude takes this as a claim of identity in the form of acceptance a piece of paper to tell her she is Cypriot real Cypriot to travel abroad, for orestis the land of her Giagia left in the North, a childhood fairy tale
@@nonamenoname2767could you please explaine why the British of Turkish Cypriot origin do not demand a separate State within the UK? Say, a Turkish Republic of Southern England?
Are there borders? And North? And brothers? Really? And your standard of living will be high under an environment which guarantees the continuation of the violation of every single principle of human rights? I am impressed.
@@phk1959 what do you call the barbed wired and road blocks that divide the island in two ?
Yes north the same way Paphos is on the West , Famagusta on the East and Larnaca on the South
Yes brothers for a million reasons
Any questions left unanswered ?
@GN-pz2lg I call it "Attilas", Occupation, turkification, violation of international law and human rights. Not borders... No. No way, borders.
Out of all Turkish cypriots selecting that girl is very meaningfull !
just one critisim : You should have talked with more Cypriots. Please make more and we will keep supporting you guys. Good Day!
@@cypthug We wish! Unfortunately given the length of these videos we can’t interview more than two people. Thank you for your comment!
Cyprus is not divided, the northern part is forcefully and illegally occupied by turkey that won't leave even though 95% of Cypriotes want them to leave so they can live free in their own country! Suffering the ottoman yolk should never be considered peaceful because, it was also a forceful occupation that enslaved the Christian majorities all over Asia Minor and South Eastern Europe that forced conversions to Islam and then turkification for millions of christians by way of mohammads sword; this is why the turks of asia minor and nearby areas like cyprus don't look Turkic like the Mongols Japanese koreans and other Asians do, it's because they are mostly forcefully islamized Christians from the Eastern Roman Empire or Byzantine Empire as the germans call it
But ignore why it got “illegally” occupied right??
Here the girl says she has never lived in Turkey. But she studied medicine in Turkey. I've never heard such nonsense in my life. There is no such thing as studying medicine remotely in Turkey.
typical British tactic. The same thing they did in India, dividing the nation into two. its the British design every time.
@@gnulecturesillegal? After the independence of Cyprus from Britain, both Greece and Turkey had the right to militarily intervene in case the independence was threatened. And it was threatened. Eoka kicked Makarios and placed Sampson. Go search who Sampson was then talk.
Same thing they did in india? You mean making pakistan and bangladesh seperate nations?
İngiliz sana gidip Kıbrıs hükümetini devir, Türklere soykırım uygula sonra da adayı Yunanistana mı bagla dedi.. Saçmalamışsın..
No making India and Pakistan the separate nations. @@RichardMontgomeryYT
@@hp3rtv eoka b
EOKA B
When you talk about EOKA you talk about an entirely different historical period
One was fighting for freedom, the other to take over and this is generally accepted by most greek cypriots
DONT FUCKING CONFUSE EOKAS AGAIN
I'll remember your name
I don't wanna catch you lacking again my guy
Someone give that girl a cyprus passport immediately!!! She cant have a Starbucks coffee in her defacto country. Very sad.
SHE JUST EXPOSED YOUR SHAMLESS LIES.
No McDonald's store, either. As if she needs extra weight with that body.
Aslında kıbrıslıların ingiltereye yerleşme hakları da var. Acaba ne problemi var da, ingiliz yerine yunanlara özenmiş durumda
Who needs Starbucks? Lots of local cafes exist. And they are Turkish cafes, not an American company.
She’s a turkish colonizer.
Cyprus is greek. There is no turkish cyriot. There are only turkish colonizers in Cyprus
I am from Taiwan and I visited Northern Cyprus two weeks ago. Landing in at the Ercan airport and staying in the Lefcosa, I crossed the border two times. My feeling is that people were just happy about having peaceful lives and hopefully making more money. At nights. I enjoyed seeing young people sitting and chatting with each other in a coffee street that literally adhered along the buffer zone which was wide enough to house a football court. I also spent time in Girne, a beautiful seashore where an old castle stood majestically.
Everything is Greek Cypriot culture brother. They stole it. Do your research dont @ me
@@paschalisiordanous4937 there is no Greek in Cyprus ,Greek Cypriots are Greek by the church they belong to. Christians of Cyprus is left behind from diferent people who ruled Cyprus over the centuries,
@@paschalisiordanous4937There are Turkish things too. Baklava and Yogurt for example which are Turkish (NOT GREEK).
Baklava is adapted from an Ancient Greek recipe.....OUCH! My grandfather is from Urla and even I know that.
@@JC19676 No its not. Its coming from nomadic meals.
As a Brit with a paternal grandmother who is Turkish Cypriot. When I did a DNA test it doesn't show up as Turkish, or Greek. It comes up as CYPRIOT. I know that my Grandmother grew up in Limassol speaking Turkish AND Greek. All Cypriot culture and all of Cyprus is my culture - greek and turkish. Cyprus should be one and the occupation must end.
Usually these tests only showcase DNA and genetic make up based only on recent DNA. In fact DNA in Greece also includes Albanian, Bulgarian and Romanian DNA which Greek Cypriots don't have. So Cypriot DNA is a very confused term. In fact Greek Cypriots share a very close genetic proximity with the Aegean Islands and Cretans (the Greek Cretan population is the closest genetic make up apart from Cypriot in my DNA). The fact that Turkish Cypriots have a common pre-Ottoman ancestry with the Greek Cypriots only proves that they are local people who converted, due to many reasons and used to be Greek. However nowadays after many decades and three hundred years they have completely adopted the Turkish culture and thus ethnically they are Turkish. Which of course they are is nothing wrong with it and should be respected along the other cultures of Cyprus.
Wtf is “Cypriot”
There is no such thing as Cypriot DNA, since Cyprus was never in its entire history, an isolated region
@@azmhyr There is such thing as Cypriot DNA just like how there is such thing as Irish, Sicilian and Sardinian DNA.
Cyprus genetically is more isolated than Greece, Balkans. Medieval Greece and Balkans received a lot of Slavic admixture and later Greece received a lot of Albanian and Vlach admixture.
Cypriots are the closest people genetically to ancient Greeks from 2000 years ago
@a_Gorilla117
I have my doubts about the isolation of Cyprus, given that it was frequently conquered by foreigners. Cypriot DNA would simply suggest that there is a separate ethnicity of some such. It's precisely this kind of thinking that allows the linobambaki to advocate for a sanitized Cypriot identity without any Hellenic element. Similarly for Sicily, it's been held by so many different people across history, it would be far fetched to claim its a cluster on its own.
DNA isnt that important you know that right? Who cares about the DNA if the other side is talking completly different language. Most ethnicities are mixed and none of them are pure. This proves that culture and language is more important than DNA.
Isn't it ironic? Turkey ends up footing the bill for various aspects of your grandparents' lives, and yet the USA imposes an embargo on Turkey for this very reason. Does that really justify labeling Turkey as an occupier? Take a look at the photos depicting the situation on the Turkish side before the Turkish military intervention. It's likely that you wouldn't even exist if Turkey hadn't provided crucial assistance during that time...
Yeah, famagust sure looked like a warzone in afghanistan
@@greekcomenterperson446 I mean bloody christmas...
Sude seems to have forgetten what had happened before 1974. One thing I can assure you though is that, she couldn't talk here now if Turkey had not intervened. Learn from your history Sude, From another Turkish Cypriot.
We should all learn from history, that's true, and learning from history often means not repeating the mistakes of the past, and not being forever defined by the past. That's what a United Cyprus is. The EU, Cypriot government and Greek Cypriots pose no threat to Sude in 2024 in any way. All of us in the European family of nations want to see a United Cyprus where people like Sudan aren't prisoners of Turkish nationalism and settler collonialism that they want no part of.
Onun gelişigüzel mi şeçildiğini düşünüyorsun😊
@@TheThOdOr1s While I agree with your words on importance of not repeating the past's mistakes I would slightly disagree with you on Turkish Cypriots like Sude being “prisoners of Turkish nationalism". I'm a Turkish Cypriot myself. I was born and brought up in North Cyprus and absolutely no one is prisoners of Turkish nationalism in Cyprus. Turkey provides us with money and fresh water. The only thing I would criticise about Turkey is the fact that they repopulated the North of Cyprus with the Kurds who are mostly supporting a terrorist organisation called Pkk and also bringing ignorant Turks from the mainland instead of bringing in more intellectual and smart Turks from west Turkey.
@@TheThOdOr1sSettler colonialism? There were Turks who settled after peace operation. But before 1974 %19 was already Turkish who live there mearly 400 years. Greeks arent natives too. Also Turks are more positive to unification. Maybe try to search about Annan Plan Repherandum? There would be new federal state and Cyprus would finally unite. Most Turks said yes in repherandum. But most Greeks said no. Say all of these to Greeks. Turks are more positive and less selfish. Greeks just want all island for theirselves.
@@borangoren8947Inner Antolians and Mediterranian Anatolians are more educated. Northerns arent bad too. But Easterners suck. But whoever, most Turks were gathered from Karaman, which was between Mediterranian and Inner. Those Kurds and Easterners probably came theirselves.
I'm a Crimean Turk and I totally feel for the Cyprus problem. I believe all young generation of TRNC should learn greek to an advanced level if they can so that they can better explain their side and come to good terms with their neighbors to prove a perfect humanity example. No wars or no fanatics of neither side should come triumphant. Love Greece and Turkey
North Cuprus is not occupied but freed territory. If Turkey did not intervene in 1974, the TC lady in this video would not have existed as her parents would have been exterminated by EOKA whose only aim was to turn Cyprus into Greek Island.
I am a Greek Cypriot and I can tell you that EOKA was a coup organization that took over Cyprus and Turkey used it as an excuse to invade my country ,΄[
It's certainly free for those who came from mainland Turkey and stole the homes in the North.
Turkey is just like Zionist Israel in this conflict. Yet I'm sure you actually support the Palestinians in that particular conflict.
Yeah pity the litter is also freely available everywhere all over the once beautiful TRNC
bro cyprus is greek island 2000 thousand years
@@pro23creeper Bro Cyprus was never a Greek Island.
I hope they can protect what is truly important, it is good to hear what they think about it. Thank you for the video, it has an amazing quality. You make something so hard to understand a little bit more simple for people that have never been there
sude's father is from turkey, but sude feels she doesnt belong to turkey, and calls turkey as occupier, let's think about this, you are born to a turkish father you were given a turkish name, you live with turkish people, you go to a turkish university, you speak turkish, you dream in turkish, the world see you as turkish, so called cyprus state see you as turkish and dont give you a passport, and you say you dont feel turkish and want turkish people leave the island. this is either inferiority complex or stupidity.
I cant tell*
How its a occupation if greeks started to kill people and raid the villages ? You guys effected by greek media too much ?@guldanh
Yunana gerek yok hayini çok bir milletiz.
@guldanhur not Türk
@guldanh alt yorumlarda arabım demişsin o evladi
The Turkish Cypriots are the victims not the Greek Cypriots who STARTED the war and wants to join Cyprus with Greece.
They don't want a independent Cyprus, they want a Greek Cyprus.
You never hear the Greeks complain about Britain on the island.
Hi, if you’ve watched the video you’ve seen there’s no finger pointing from either side. They want peace, a solution, and a united Cyprus free from external influence, be that British, Greek or Turkish.
@@enentrThe video doesn't reflect the general public opinion take this video as the Chubby Barbie in the North Cyprus soon at theaters 😂
@@enentr But it is missing the terror of EOKA. It doesn't mention about it at all.
@@kemalugurelEOKA fought for the freedom of Cyprus. What was peculiar is that the Turks fought EOKA.
These are personal opinions, and as we specified, they do not represent those of an entire population regarding a subject that is so complex and divisive - your opinion isn’t representative either.
Only the Original! LOVE GREECE CYPRUS💙
Greeks arent natives too.
@@odez5412 I think so. Don't forget, the Greeks have been around for 3000 years longer
@@famweber8893 It doesnt really matter. If we go by that logic Americans should leave it and give it back to Natives. Thats not how it works. Turks stayed there for 400 years which isnt little.
@@odez5412 Greeks are natives
from this video, we see the difference;
Greek Cypriots identify them as Greeks while Turks Cypriots identify them as Cypriots
Orestis identifies as Greek Cypriot, not Greek!
Yet Cyprus is fully independent of Greece and Turkey is the TRNC 😂
@@mikem8211TRNC is fully independent too
@aegonskywalker TRNC is fully independent of Turkey? They pump 500 million a year into your economy? The population in the North has more mainlanders than Cypriots? Turkey builds on Cypriot land selling it to mainlanders thus not boosting the Northern Cypriot economy? Independent you say 🤣🤣🤣
@@mikem8211 Cyprus is fully independent of Greece,
shortest joke on youtube
How the youth of today live in cuckoo land
Cyprus was divided and remains divided because the Americans and the British wanted it so to satisfy their political aims on the Eastern Mediterranean and importantly in the Middle East, that's the reason that the maintenance of the SBAs is vital and paid for by the Americans for sure as Britain can no longer afford to keep them .
Reunification is a pipe dream and will not be achieved in my lifetime. The Turkish army occupies a sovereign country, a full member of Europe whilst the European Union stands by idle and at the same time negotiating with the Turks to become a member!.
Europe is a laughing stock around the world, it is high time for countries to go their separate ways, move away from American control and stop regarding Russia as the enemy.
Turkish inclusion into the EU is a non starter as long as Erdoğan is the president. He also wants to take over Syria and commit a genocide against Kurds. Hopefully the CHP takes over soon and re-secularizes/moderates Turkey's influence.
I dont mind them having a sphere of influence, but Erdoğan wagging his finger at Israel while occupying North Cyprus and plotting an actual genocide against Kurds is hilarious.
Amazing video, but something to know:
Sude (the girl being interviewed), living in Northern Cyprus, is automatically a Republic of Cyprus citizen. Therefore, she can get a Cyprus passport by default. Sude and any Turkish Cypriots who are BORN in Northern Cyprus and whose parents have roots on the island are automatically Republic of Cyprus citizens. The Republic of Cyprus passport is internationally recognized, and Sude can use it to travel to Europe and the world. The Republic of Cyprus recognizes all Turkish Cypriots as its own citizens.
I think Sude already has the Republic of Cyprus passport, but she does not admit that she has it in this interview.
Hi there, thanks for the comment! While it is true that Cypriots born in the Republic, regardless of being TRNC citizens, have the right to a passport, that's not true for children of mixed marriages, which is Sude's case. One of her parents is Turkish Cypriot, but the other is Turkish, so this doesn't give her the right to the passport of the Republic of Cyprus. That of the children of mixed marriages is a hugely complicated matter in Cyprus!
@@enentr appreciate your reply! That’s why If you have already read my comment carefully I said “Turkish Cypriots who are BORN…and whose parents have roots on the island are automatically Republic of Cypres citizens” but I did not know Sude’s other parent is Turkish from mainland Türkiye. Now it makes sense. Thank you again! 🙏🏻
Nice greek propaganda
Greek propaganda?? How so ? please explain your ignorance
Turks invaded Cyprus and you’re crying about it lol give me a break…
@@TheBlinky81you started killing turks in cyprus
@socman3988 you have no idea about the cyprus events, you are just talking from memory
The problem is indeed quite complex, with no simple solution. The political guarantees Turkish Cypriots would need to accept unification could leave the union politically gridlocked, and Greek Cypriots unhappy for the disproportionate influence. This is why the Annan Plan failed - it gave both sides veto power and equal number of judges, as far as I know.
Also, the presence of Turkish settlers is left open, and it has no solution that pleases everyone.
Turks and other Muslims of the Island will eventually leave as it will be unbearable to live under the excesses of the TC, who are already mistreating Muslims in the north, Kurds and Pakistanis are openly treated as inferior workforce and Turks are underpaid and often forced into unequal and unfair rent contracts. As such, Turks and other Muslims of the North must flee to another Muslim country which is Turkey. We should bear the brunt of the responsibility and help the refugees as best as we can by offering them new homes. All TC's must be declared persona non grata in Turkey and barred from entry. It has already begun and we're finally banning some TC's from entering Turkey. Hopefully we will leave the island soon as well.
Hope one day it be one country I love Cyprus. It’s a great place to live. Thank you for sharing your comments and take care.❤🎉
I just did a week long study abroad there in Limassol, but I also went to Nocosia, Omodos, Pathos and Larnaca. I loved it!
Paphos
Why are you so eager to call it an occupation? Has any of the involved parties ever suggested any other solution to systematic murdering of Turkish Cypriots by EOKA? As a Turkish Cypriot I am not happy to live under the shadow of Turkey but let's not forget how Greeks, Greek Cypriots and the UK pushed Turkish Cypriots there! What would happen if Turkey had not intervened by using it internationally recognized right as a guaranteur country? What have the Greek Cypriots done to reunify the island?
dude, make an effort please and learn that you attacked first. Solution was to not attack on Gc.
How and why were you entitled to Turkey's support?
@@tolefko???
@@azmhyr what do you mean?
@@hozk_
Why do you think that you are entitled to our support? What makes you think that you actually deserve it in the first place? You're not our kin, neither are you Turks nor Muslims. Why is it that millions in Turkey still believe that we went to Cyprus to save our brothers from certain death?
The solution is so easy: both the Greek and Turkish forces need to leave and allow Cyprus to be its own country, free from any occupation. It should no longer be a Greek territory or a Turkish territory but given to the people of Cyprus. ALL of Cyprus. They already know how to live in peace together.
Its been tried (twice) and it did not end well
was one year old at the time. We ( Mum & Dad & Siblings) lived in a council estate in central London where growing up during that time & the 1980’s being told to go back home. We would love to
Both sides made mistakes...if someday they decide to teach at schools the real history of our island then there is hope that one day in a lot of years we can all live together...I don't have a problem ofcourse but for most people to accept this it will take a lot of years
Well real history is Greeks lowered the rights of Turks and Turks rebelled. EOKA wanted Enosis but Turks didnt. So conflicts and conflicts. Then a man who wants Enosis (i dont remember the name) came and it was againist aggrement. So Turks attacked.
I am so grateful for all the "experts" in the comments section. Where would we all be? ....
Orestis has the correct mindset in my opinion. More people should be like him and just spiral out!
How can you say the turks and the greeks lived in relative harmony during the ottoman empire ?!
The turks CONQUERED the Greeks, the latter trying to get rid of them from even before they invaded…
If the ottoman empire was a peaceful cohabitation for you then i guess we should say the same of any colonial empire
During the rule of the Ottoman Empire, Turkish Cypriots were never a minority in Cyprus until the beginning of the 1800s. Therefore, please refrain from providing false information to the people or conducting interviews with only 2-3 individuals, as they do not represent the majority of the population.
Oh really? They brought in an overwhelming horde of Mongs when they took the island in 1571, did they?
You can read Niazi history book about TC and have your answers.
Turkish cypriots did not exist during Ottoman rule. They started to form after 1950.
@@tolefko I don't know your recommendation but I will definitely look for it. However, I strongly recommend referring to A History of Cyprus by Sir George Francis Hill, who was the director and principal librarian of the British Museum from 1931 to 1936. Hill emphasized that, under both Ottoman and later British rule, Turkish Cypriots comprised a significant demographic group in Cyprus, typically representing about 30-40% of the population compared to Greek Cypriots. Given this substantial presence, it is inaccurate to refer to Turkish Cypriots as a minority in Cyprus. Turkish Cypriots maintained a distinct community identity and role, especially under the Ottoman Millet system, which organized communities by religious affiliation and allowed a degree of administrative independence within each group. This system enabled Turkish Cypriots to preserve their cultural and religious identity while coexisting with the Greek Cypriot population on the island.
What I know is that, following the strict Colonial policies of the 1930s, implemented after the “1931 Cyprus Greek Revolt,” and later fueled by Greek Cypriots' aspirations for ENOSIS, a campaign of violence against Turkish Cypriots emerged in the 1950s. The political instability, ethnic cleansing, and violence of the 1960s ultimately led to a significant Turkish Cypriot forced them to immigrate from the island.
at 10.44 you can see at the sign the grammatical mistakes in the words "EYROPIAN" (instead of EUROPEAN) and "PASSPOT" (instead of PASSPORT) . The authorities can't even spell proper English !
Greek side said "no" to annan's unification plan while Turkish side said "yes". Go figure it out.
facts, turkish cypriots there forgeting their heritage
Go figure it out why 200000 homes were taken and there expected to say yes. Slow slow people
@guldanh they want to keep Turkish troops there so maybe not so simple
we wernt oblicated to vote yes you fool
Suda looks like Shrek wife.
Elena mou, a colleague here. please correct your text. It is NOT North Cyprus. It is OCCUPIED Cyprus.
Hi Irene, it can be both north and occupied. Hence why we repeatedly called it the “occupied north”. Thank you for your comment, hope you’ll watch the full video :)
@@enentrwhat about the British? Are they occupying?
If Turkish soldiers must leave what about the British and Greeks?
@bigboyrambo2581 the Greeks do not occupy anything. If the Turkish withdraw there is no reason for the Greeks to stay. As for the British they have either to pay the rent the owe or to leave.
@HuseyinArclar-jo1wr I hope one day your country is invaded and occupied by another bigger country. And then Remember this comment you just made. As for the properties of the Turks of Cyprus in the free area of Cyprus, are always at their disposal. They are entitled to own and use them. Nobody has taken their properties. There are no occupying troops in the free part of Cyprus. Have a nice day...
@@bigboyrambo2009 is this comment of yours, a message from His Excellency the Sultan of Turkey? I doubt. Because I do not think that Mr Erdoğan and Turkey's deep state will agree with your 50-50 proposal . They want it all. Their stomach is too large to be fed and satisfied with the 50% only. Read the leading work of your Nihat Erim. The retaking of Cyprus. Their karagioze Tatar says it every day. "2 states, next to each other, COOPERATING AMONG THEMSELVES". Turkey's plan is to make Cyprus AS A WHOLE its own protectorate in Eastern Mediterranean. If it is only half, it doesn't work. Understand?
Ridiculous that a few politicians over 50 years ago, got greedy, made money from stiring up a conflict, then retired, but the aftermath is that normal, kind, human beings (on both 'sides') are still prevented from getting along to this day.
We have something similar in Moldova near Romania. Moldova is a part of Romania stolen by the Russians which are strongly influencing it and trying to put it through a process of russification. Your problems seems to be solved but its complex yes... A lot of problems appear for the weaker countries which can't seem to decide there own fate/situation.
Moldova does want to be a part of Romania but Transnistria doesn't (it wasn't historically Romanian), and Gagauzia will only accept entering Romania if they'll stay autonomous. But if so, the Hungarians of Szekely land will want autonomy too.
That's why these ethnic conflicts are indeed in reality very complex, and oversimplifying them would be bad. Maybe some Moldovans do want reunification and feel Romanian and so would feel that's historical justice and self-determination... But what about the Gagauz people for example? They don't share this perspective at all... For them it could be viewed as the opposite. Therefore there isn't one right or wrong side of this conflict. Except of some side decides to escalate and start being violent and disproportionate.
@@gamermapper You make it complex its actually simple. Moldova is Romania and it should be back with Romania as a whole. You take small issues and make them big. We already have cities of hungarians in Romania, no1 is dying over that.
@@savagedonutthat never be a small issue bro
As an Azerbaijani turk I think both Greek and turks in Cyprus should unit and live under one Republic in peace and harmony........ because they all belong to that land ❤......
But not under Greek or GC rule. i could say the same thing to you about karabakh. C*
@@TMan1965 Karabakh belongs in Armenia...
@@ΧρυσοβαλάντηςΒ-ε5δThe last time in 2020, after the victory of Azerbaijan, Karabakh became Azerbaijan's
@@ilosteverything0 Karabağ always was a part of Azerbaijan as myself from Karabağ!!!
@@ahmadovasvlog5028 Did I say something different, I said that after the victory in Karabakh, it was reconnected to Azerbaijan?
I just got back from 2 weeks in Cyprus. What a beutiful country. I'm in love with the culture, Phaphos, Limasol, Aya Napa, Nicosia! Everything!
From my analysis, the problem with the Turkish speaking Cypriots stem from the amount of mainland Turks entering daily and assimilating themselves as the lady spoke. The amount of Turkish speaking Cypriots keeps dropping daily, I can't imagine what will be of them in 10 years time.. probably extinction. Cyprus is for the Cypriot.
Turkish Cypriots are already Turks. What are you even talking about?
Typical TC tactics of creating panic. This whole "we'll be extinct" stuff was been circulated since the 1980s, to create a sense of urgency within Greek Cypriots. To force them to accept a solution that is not in their favor. TC's are like Emirati Arabs in UAE. Cruel taskmasters, touch one and you're f*cked. Get into a fight with one and you'll end up in jail but he won't suffer a single damn consequence. He could kill you and get scott-free. Unless, of course, you're a Brit. In that case, you're untouchable.
No one can explain how this greek island doesnt belong to Greece. They identify it as an independent country for no reason.
Calm down leonidas. because the island never belonged to greece. There is no real greece country after rome conqured them.
@@vanophibilsiron7781 u don't know history whatsoever. Cyprus speaks Greek for 3000 years. There is nothing to be proven
@@beardlong8235 greek? bro you are just talk like turks, eat like turks, look like turks. you are just christian turks. Your traditions are same. Only different religion.
Cyprus was controlled by romans, muslims, turks etc. is there any greek country controlled cyprus?
@@vanophibilsiron7781 psycho?
@@beardlong8235 Nope you just want to hear what you want. İf you look from west, you are same bro.
h&m, mc donalds, bershka....
çok lazım markalar öyle deme
The problem is not between the Greek and Turkish Cypriots on the island, the problem is Turkey's invasion and occupation of the northern area of the Republic of Cyprus, dividing the island, and the illegal Turkish colonists who outnumber the pure Turkish Cypriots. Turkish occupation troops and setlers (colonists) out of Cyprus, and the reunification of the island for the the benefit of ALL CYPRIOTS. Turkey's actions in Cyprus have been: INVASION, OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING, COLONISATION
Guess who started war and said no to unification, TRNC ? No.
Oh no , someone better tell ERDO to revise his speeches because all that is illegal or does that only apply to everyone else
You explained the period before 1974 very briefly. This was really important. You must explain what Greece is doing. You did not say that Turkey's intervention in the island was a necessity. Cyprus President Makarios has a statement. He said that Greece was responsible for what happened on the island.
Why is it always the british causing these problems🤣
The problems of Cyprus have been caused by outside influences, including the CIA. Cyprus is a victim of it's geographical location and has been described as ''the unsincable aircraft carrier''
No. Its EOKA.
@@odez5412 You think you know it all. Tell me what EOKA stands for.
@@panostheodoulou1166 I dont need what it stands for. They were fighting British with guerilla tactic and worked for the independence of Cyprus. When they gained they wanted Enosis and started to ki@ Turks who are againist Enosis. I dont need what it stands for, for what they did and what is their goal. In most sources i watched and read all of them says EOKA so its normal for me to not know it.
@@odez5412 You're wrong again. You make comments when you don't know the facts. Also you should digest the video more as well. The blond lady in the video is Turkish Cypriot, and she feels part of the Republic of Cyprus not part of Turkey's occupation in Cyprus. There are more colonists from Turkey in the occupied north than there are Turkish Cypriots. Also I'm not sure if you are Turkish Cypriot or from Turkey.
@@panostheodoulou1166 I am a Turk from Anatolia. And she is just a European lover. European lovers also exist in Turkiye. For example they just go to places with foreign restaurants and cafes like Starbucks (You can just see how empty are local cafes even though they are not worse than Starbucks and at least have waiter service) and trying to prove they are European all over the internet. And from the comments made by Turkish Cypriots in this video's comment section you can see that they dont like Greeks. Also i am not wrong. EOKA did lots of bad things and massacred lot of Turks. And she totally forgot about these and saying she is European. But her language is coming from Central Asia, not Europe. She is denying her Turkishness even though her father is Turkish and mother Turkish Cypriot. She says she isnt living in Turkiye and because of that she is denying her Turkishness but says she is European even though she lives in Asia. Such a west lover. At least Arab lovers dont exist in North Cyprus. They are worse than Europe lovers.
Didn't realize this is a somewhat similar situation to East/West Germany, with no reunification in sight!😢
sounds easier to unify germany as everybody spoke the same language.
what would have happened, if the Turkish army did not displaced the Greek Cypriot population how the things could be ? I am pretty sure someone was a MI6 agent to destroy the island and divide into two.
What passport do Turkish Cypriots carry?
North Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Germany-Austria, Finland-Estonia, France-Corsica, they are divided countries too
while the brits were their there was violence all the time now since Turkiye is there everyone including the greeks live in peace and there has been no violence since 1974 so be thankful turkiye is there and will stay
What will happen if UN (peacekeepers) leaves? So if you get my point we should be thankful to UN and not Turkey.
@@lenoseththe UN don't need to be there, just make a new border.
Does the UN need to be at the border with Greece and Turkiye?
@@lenoseth no mate the UN are on a long holiday and got no powers it’s the Turkish army you should thank since they been there the Greeks have to behave
@@kazali8950 If the Turkish Army left today I doubt anything would change over night. I think the Cypriot government would want to find an amicable solution first without the hindrance of others meddling. Why because they would want to reassure the Turkish Cypriots
@johnchrys5716
No, they would simply March their troops into the territory controlled by the so called TRNC. If the Turkish speaking Cypriots are patriots they would welcome the Cypriot national guard as liberators with flowers and kisses.
I feel like the best resolution to this problem is for the people on the whole island to reunite and see their identity as Cypriots as a whole, stop dividing them by Greeks and turks because by doing that they let these countries have influence over them and divide them. No matter whether they are greek or turk ethnicity after all they are Cypriots in the first place. They do not come from either Greece or Turkey, they come from Cyprus and that whole island is their home. It doesn't matter if their culture traditions and religion are different they are all Cypriots which should be the main factor when creating a country. They should take an example from Bulgaria in Bulgaria there's many bulgarian turks, bulgarian Christians, bulgarian Muslims (pomaks) and Bulgarian roma people and they all consider themselves bulgarian and there has never been separatist movements, and everyone try to live peacefully with each other and respect the others traditions, religion, culture.
A bulgarian example come on, they put Turkish speaking Bulgarian citizens in buses and told them you are going to a journey and exported them to Turketçy by force and then these people after Bulgaria ascended to EU had some rights but with this trauma of the past, they continue to live out of Bulgaria and only go to renew their ids. Not a good and ideal example. The only difference in this story is that the Turkish Cypriots stayed on the North part of the country as it is now but this time the Greek Cypriots steal their ids and don't give citizenship to their children if they are married in north Cyprus to Turkey nationals or third country nationals.
@nonamenoname2767 Fun fact the majority of Turkish Cypriots lived in the south predominantly Paphos. They didn't have a presence in the North which was around 90% Greek
The cultures are very similar
@@mikem8211No they did.
@@johnchrys5716I dont think it is. Turkish culture is from Central Asia and Greek culture is from Greece. Their language arent related too.
Cyprus is inside the border of Asia. It's an asian country under European influence
Geographically speaking, Cyprus is part of the Middle East
@@ArgKaiser no it's not. It's located too far to the west of Asia to be in the middle eastern region.
Cyprus is in Mediterranean sea,like Malta wich is next to afrika, or Greta
@@S.Y7938it’s off the coast of Levantine states.
Omg! The boy talks about politics, fights, he does not forcing him doing accent etc. And the girl talks about shopping, drinking coffee, trying and forcing for english accent etc.
i think if she was rich she does not botter about anything. i understand why south side dont want to unite with north.
To Turks living in Cyprus. Remember, no matter how much ''European'' or ''Cypriot'' you feel, people will still see you as a ''Turk''.
So let go of the weak confused identity. Revel in your turkic ancestry and embrace the HORDE.
Good, I'm Turkish and proud. I would never identify as a European.
because the majority are not even turks. thats the uncomfortable truth
Turks living in Cyprus are not "Turkish Cypriots" who lived on the island prior to 1974. Turkish Cypriots are Latin Venetians who masquaraded as Muslims to get benefits from the Ottoman Empire. They can never be one of us.
I love Cyprus.. regards Richard London UK 🇬🇧
UNITE CYPRUS NOW!🇨🇾❤️
Yes, with Greece
@@akritasdigenis4831If Cyprus ever decides to unite with a country, it will most likely be UK.
@@canbaydan Cypriots don't like the UK, they're a big reason why Cyprus is divided
@@akritasdigenis4831 Do you think UK would care this?
@@akritasdigenis4831 It should be like in Belgium, Greek Community and Turkish Community.
Just for your info, Sude has extreme views which is not typical for Turkish Cypriots. Not everyone thinks like her
No Actually majority of TsC’s thinking like Sude. Except turk settlers who come to island after 1974
Nice propogonda
Cyprus is Greek
Poor sude😢 maybe its s a good thing for you to stay away from southern side that has mcdonalds. If you get fit you can easily find h&m or bershka in turkey btw.
😂😂😂😂
That is so interesting!
As a Greek Cypriot, I would like to congratulate this wonderful woman for seeking what is right for both sides. Long live Cyprus and all true Cypriots. Hopefully I'll be there next year.
all cyprus belongs to turks
@@Saniye09Cyprus is a country in the EU. Turkey can't enter the EU without recognizing Cyprus. Cyprus is not Turkey and not Greece.
@@Goldenskies__ cyprus was ruled by turks for 307 years, a greek cyprus is unacceptable
@@Saniye09 yea keep changing history.
The British did the same thing in India created a country called Pakistan.
The same thing they did in Palestine, every country they left they created a mess. People need to wake up.
The division of Cyprus was planned BEFORE the establishment of the Republic (that's why the Agreements provided for "intervention rights" and even BEFORE any conflict between GC and TC. Such conflict was deemed to be necessary. So it was induced artificially from the outside. Tell us something about the "surrounding" environment. For example, the Istanbul polgrom against the Greeks and its link with Cyprus. Or about the following efforts of the external players to divide Cyprus, such as the notorious Acheson Plan. History is not a bedside story. If not complete and filled in with the crucial details it becomes a fake story. Unfortunately for the people of Cyprus and especially the GC who are the most tragic victims of the history of Cyprus, not just today but for every other period of time. Most TC are turkified Greeks of Cyprus during the Ottoman rulling. They are not settlers from Turkey or other Ottoman countries. Do your research. For the non historian layman there is a very informative and objective book on Google free to read. "The bloody truth on Cyprus". Have a look into it. It doesn't harm. Thank you.
Fun fact: Turks who have Greek DNA also have high Italian DNA. So you arent pure too. DNA doesnt matter. Your source is probably Urban legend. Greeks killed thousends of Turks. But Turkiye bringed peace. Turks are the victims and you are not.
The root of the problem is “enosis”.
Or is it 'Taksim'?
If there was no operation called invasion, the elders of the family would be massacred in a bathtub, without women or children, as was done to the family of medical major Nihat Ilhan, if they were unlucky, and if they were lucky, they would be exiled to Turkey. If people had become Europeans by making their hair blonde, naturally blonde Bosnians would not have been massacred by Europeans a quarter of the way into the 21st century. Most of Cyprus is not like this. Cypriots who are old enough to live in ancient times are devoted to Turkey. But those who are under British influence see Turkey as an invader. Because they were born abundantly and did not experience massacres.
man there are evidence out there that the massacre in the bathtub is a total Tc propaganda. Sener Levent gave proofs about it
From the outside, it's so sad, it should be a lovely place to live, but the people of the Island messed it up. Everyone says they're Cypriots, but they can't all be. I would note that Turkey is zero chance of joining the EU, as it's getting more and more authoritarian.
Oresti you are so honest and real patriot,,, BRAVO
Cyprus is in Asia
Yes geographically but Cyprus is part of the European Union and its population is mostly of European ethnicity. So the Cypriots can call themselves European
@@dszxnavtiisx6384 I understand the political affiliation and ethnic affiliations but a country’s continent is based on geography. As a result, Cypriots are Asian.
Would you consider Australia as apart of Europe? Most people there are of “European” descent and is apart of the Eurovision.
@@johnrobertson8441 the limits of the continent of Europe are not clear.... Is this really a continent by the way.
@@Coz57 Africa, Europe, and Asia are one continent. However, if we do divide Africa, Europe, and Asia into separate continents, Cyprus is clearly Asian.
Cyprus is much closer to Anatolia, followed by Syria and Lebanon. Cyprus is even closer to Africa than Europe as well. Islands are associated with its closest continental landmass regarding its continental designation. Cyprus is clearly closest to the Asian mainland.
As well, the divide between Europe and Asia is along the Turkish straits, the Caucasus, and the Urals and the Ural River. Cyprus falls completely on the right side of the Turkish strait making it part of Asia.
You should do a video on the conflicts in Georgia with Abkhazia and South Ossetia too. The South Caucasus unfortunately has similar divisions.
permission to leave a comment: my suggestion is that you need more correspondents to answer your questions the more data and information they have and research that is the real answer
🙏🏻 United Federal Cyprus is only solution!🇨🇾
Right, it should be like in Belgium, Greek Community and Turkish Community.
All Greek flags must be removed from the south and Turkiye flags from the north.
All foreign troops must leave.
Britain must leave Cyprus.
UN must leave Cyprus.
Cypriots language should be Greek and Turkish.
Greek and Turkish Cypriots must share the government 50-50.
Or just forget about a united Cyprus.
But not under Greek Cyriot rules!
United Federal Cyprus Right Now!!!🤍🕊
United Cyprus🇬🇷🇨🇾
Lot of respect to Sude. 🙏
I'm a GC and my father left Varosha is '74. Orestis words represent me 100%. I truly want a reunification solution for all Cypriots but Turkey manage to change so much the demographics with settlers from mainland Turk, that such a solution scares me so much and seems really unviable! Unfortunately we born in a country that others have already made the desicions for us, and growing up is a constant search for identity and internal conflict of each ideology.
So you want but do not dare for a solution, in total you say no to unification federation etc
Derdiniz belli sizin, kıbrıs'ı türklerden arındırmak istiyorsunuz. Ezik sude'yi tebrik etmen de boşa değil tabi ki
can one find a good sales job in north cyprus?
SUDE...My poor baby... get the Cypriot passport and drink Starbucks coffee. You are Cypriot. Right? The Republic of Cyprus is the state of the Cypriots. Right? Not the state of Greeks. So why they don't give you a passport? Greeks are the most democratic and most modern people of all ages. They never judge people by their religion their ethnicity by their language. Say that you are not responsible for the Turkish invasion. Say that you pray for Apollo and eat Mousaka. They will give you the passport
Nothing but respect and love to our Greek brothers and sisters from Cyprus,all the best from Serbia!🇷🇸❤️🇨🇾🇬🇷
With all due respect, you know, the Cyprus debate becomes an unnecessarily heated and a divisive one when one inserts a Greek or Turkish flag or when one makes a positive reference to one side. It is a bit like praising German-speaking Swiss people in a sort of discriminatory way.. Just saying . With best wishes..😇
@@SD-ti9so Alejkum Selam to Serbian Kosovo
British troops out of Cyprus!
Blame British colonialism for ancient ethnic divides. What a joke!!
şu videoyu jahrein’e atın
which time was that the greeks and turks were friends
Ξέρεις είμαι από τους ανθρώπους που είναι ακόμα υπέρ της ένωσης. Αλλά ακούγοντας αυτά τα πράγματα, μου αλλάζουν λίγο τη γνώμη. Όντως το να μην επισκέπτεσαι ένα μέρος όντως είναι σαν να το παρατάς τους άλλους. Δεν ξέρω τι θησαυρός έχει η κύπρος γιατί δεν έχω πάει ποτέ μου αλλά δεν λεω όχι να την επισκεφτώ.
I don't agree with this
Please tell the history with all its facts.
Only hostility towards Turks is mentioned here.
and cyprus has never been described as a whole
Yes, Cyprus may actually be divided, but there is a common history, we call that history the Ottoman Empire.
My request to you is that instead of dividing Cyprus into north and south, or rather Turkish, Greek or Greek, please describe it as a whole by looking at past history.
I can easily say what I saw in the video. It was a video that smelled completely of hostility.
You have completely distorted history and reality. I don't understand why you made this video without looking at the 1923 Lausanne Treaty.
All agreements made are the guarantee of the security of the countries.
Why don't you talk about the facts that happened in 1974?
Please accept the facts, if Türkiye had not intervened, not even a single Turkish person would have survived in Cyprus.
Please do not have hatred in your thoughts and do not instill your hatred in future generations, let everyone continue to live in peace.
Unite Cyprus Now !! 🇨🇾🫶🏻🕊️
Yes, with Greece🇬🇷
@@akritasdigenis4831no Unite Cyprus with Cypriots 🇨🇾🕊️
then unite kashmir with pakistan
@@akritasdigenis4831 nope
@FederalCyprus Cypriots are Greek, so your comment is basically saying unite Cyprus with Greeks.
7:23 are the old neighbors welcoming?
I don't believe Sude is a Cypriot Turk. She lies about everything, including never having been to Turkey and the existence of a certain brand in Northern Cyprus. This entire film seems like another propaganda effort. If she hates Northern Cyprus, she has the option to live on the Greek side, get lost!
Today, 20 July, is the most horrific remembrance day in the history of Cyprus's people and one of the worst days for international law and justice of the mankind. 😢😢😢 NEVER FORGET
what international law you talking about? was killing a peaceful american ambassador part of this law?
@mikewillis6033 are you referring to the USA ambassador in Nicosia in 1974? The most hated American diplomat by CIA (not to mention the State Department). Why this diplomat was not trusted by the CIA and the Department of State? Who had pulled the trigger? And why? Do your research...
From 20 July we got our freedom from oppression. 😊
@ugurosman4870 not exactly. Until 1974 Turkey oppressed only the TC. But since 1974 Turkey has been oppressing both the TC and the GC. So, if you want your freedom you have to unite with the GC and kick Turkey straight on her astra out of Cyprus. Good luck.
@HuseyinArclar-jo1wr if you are scared of the fanatics in the south, please try to imagine how much scared are the Greek Cypriots of the presence of the Turkish army in Cyprus and the intervention and guarantor rights of Turkey. That was one of the main reasons for the GC to reject the Annan Plan. If you combine the Turkish troops in Cyprus with the settlers (who are Citizens of Turkey) and the residuals of TMT you can understand the threat against the GC.
Turkish Cypriots were a majority in many places like Girne/Kyrenia before the 19th century
lol
Being a Cypriot I believe is not just nationality
It's also a state of mind
It's a culture that you will never understand
It's a culture developped over millennia to prove that truly we are a people nowhere else seen in the whole world
We are proud as hell of that
That's our entire national motto
We do everything better, we are loud, we do not care
It's a notion that no invader has been able to break in thousands and thousands of years
That should be motivating
because truly
TRULY
ΣΑΝ ΤΗΝ ΚΥΠΡΟΝ ΕΝ ΕΣΙΕΙ
LIKE CYPRUS THERE IS NOTHING
Bro why dont you want to understand The real problem is people thinking like you why dont you want to be more realistic and talk about Türksat you killed rape you did before 1974 dont fool The goverment propaganda and listen Türksat too
This girl is greek i live in lefkosa
But why Sude has not got EU passport although she is Cypriot? I think that topic should have been also analysed.
Because Sude is mixed marriage
She talked about the reasons -- being born in a mixed marriage in the TRNC means she only gets that citizenship, not the Republic of Cyprus' one. She also expanded on how she could get a Turkish one, and why she doesn't want it! It is indeed a very important topic.
@@enentrthe reason is not that she is the child of a mixed marriage. The true reason is that one of her parents entered and resided in Cyprus illegally. How can one expect the legitimate authorities to provide her a citizenship? Regardless of the fact that she hasn't done anything illegal to be blamed personally. This is indeed an unfortunate situation for which, however, the State has no responsibility.
@@phk1959 i guess his father side is from turkey, then why she is saying she doesn't feel she belong to turkey? it is same like you born in germany to turkish father and you dont feel turkish. okey then change your name from mehmet to hans? 🤣
@@enentr why cyprus government not issuing her a passport, i see many russians got their cyprus passports who never even landed on cyprus, but cyprus state denying passport to someone born to a greek cypriot mother who lived her whole life in the island. even this example shows how cruel cyprus government would be to turkish people if the island were united.
cyprus isnt the last devided capital. what about belfast n.ireland
Belfast is in Northern Ireland, a country, where the sole authority is that of Northern Ireland, part of the United Kingdom. There are of course different communities with different wishes for their country, but there’s no other authority (which is the case for Cyprus). We just published a video about Northern Ireland, check it out!
i think more about Jerusalem , especially the eastern part.
Israel & Palestine, India & Pakistan, Cypriot Greek & Turks, Irish Protestants & Catholics, Nigerian Christians & Muslims, Hutsu & Tutsi. I'm starting to notice a pattern...
We dont know who is sude... We know only ayse ...
Cyprus is.occupied bu UK,Greece and Turkiye,so after all this 3 removes the hand out of the island,maybe a solution can be achieved,otherwise nothing will change.😢it is not fair to call only north as occupied area,also south is an occupied area.
Μακριά και αγαπημένοι, το μεγαλύτερο δωρο του Ντεκτας στους κυοτραιος ηταν ο διαχωρισμός. Εύχομαι στους αδελφούς στιν βορά καλή τύχη.
0:24 omg the kittennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
The inferiority complex of Sude is the true reason to the assimilation of culture and independence in North Cyprus.
Hello, it's Sude here. I just want to make something clear that, i see Cypriots as a one, whole community. But our current living conditions in the occupation regime is not that good, as you might expect. Moreover, i have a problem called 'mixed marriage problem' and it even makes me more disadvantageous among other Cypriots.
@@cypriotkipriaYou should also make a video about the problem of mixed marriage sude mou!! 💗✨
You should have talked about the mixed marriage problem. This is also discrimination and assimilation which is result of Greek Cypriots policies against Turkish Cypriots.
@@cypriotkipriagreat video
@@cypriotkipria😂occupation ? Aren't you part of occupation as well since your father from Türkiye ? 😂 thus I bet you are more British than Cypriot since even your accent is literally British 😂