I will say that you truly have been very fair when understanding new products and this type of R&D. Because you help so much in development and customer understanding of this product I recently purchased a Goat bike and will have it this week, but I feel like I went along on there quest to make a different ebike and now seeing this company doing a upgrade to the x is very similar.
man all these new 60v and 72 v taking off out of NOWHERE, i bought a revv1 FS end of january when it was still teh best buy out there, flash forward 3 montsh and theres 45-50 mph ebikes, i miss a few months ago when me and my revv1 doing 40 was insane. lol
Got a revv1 fs as well and it being a class 2 bike still makes it a great buy. They are cracking down on max speed and even motor wattage laws. I will wait for these new ones to be tested awhile as they might burn out and die fast.
@@ChrisC-qh4io Have a revv1 FS as well. Fully converted to 72 volt. It's the only way! And no, didn't follow how MrCD did it, converted the system to 12 volt lighting. 72 volt, 47ah, 100 amp sab, Maguras 220, 5kw hub motor. 1700 miles daily commuting, no issues other than the awful fork. It's essentially a Moto now. I think side by side its better than Lyric Graffti X.
I am relieved this Graffiti X did better cause I have one coming in Aug, lol. I am so excited about this bike actually showing up, can't wait to ride. Mine will be black BTW. Great review 👍Also, I love that this bike has a real horn! and you used it to get cars out of bike lane, awesome!
Only thing you'll notice is if you ride in 100degree + weather your speed and power will be limited. If it's not this hot you shouldn't have a problem. But yeah no issues. Working on my final video as well on this bike. And it's a long one
@@MrCentralDriver ghostcat just moved their black and white new f3 model to ship in mid aug 💀. Im pretty sure since I ordered when f2.2 was around ill get mine in July but im starting to think I should have invested a little bit more and gotten this one instead.
@@killakev1187 Without pedals would be a ticket if rode on streets where I live. Also bike paths. Bike path security tried to ban my Grizzly but the pedal made it allowable.
Thanks again for the review and for taking one for the team in the heat. 100 degree heat to start is a tough one. Just about any ebike will have a slight thermal roll back in this kind of heat keeping 40mph speeds. Even your GoPro didn’t like it I guess. Couple things: grips can be changed to anything you like really, just put some slip on Moto grips of your choice. For the rear shocks you don’t have to replace the shocks, we sell different options for heavier or lighter springs, so just the springs would change. That’s pretty usual for suspension tuning on all bikes. Glad you enjoyed it!
For the money being spent on the bike it's a big ask to have to spend MORE for the best spring option in order to have a comfortable riding experience. Not all of us have extra money sitting around for that. We should have the option to swap if necessary versus having to spend more money and then have springs that will not be used sitting around which is a waste. 🤷🏽♂️🙃
@@HeartEnergyHealingthis is not the common practice across the bike and motorcycle industry. All coilover shocks come with an average weight spring and riders have a lot of adjustability with the spring preload and air adjustment. The spring rate is just the ultimate in adjustability.
@@MrCentralDriver please ask them what they plan to do with the drop in acceleration before your next video! Half the reason I purchased this bike was for safety reasons with traffic. Defeats the purpose of owning one if I can't get up to speed with traffic. I don't want to have to cancel my order and shop for another bike. Awesome content by the way!
11:07 its probably a fast motor windings, like a 3.5T or something, where its slower at low speeds with less torque, but then once it gets going it takes off. And the goat power bike has good low end torque because its more of a slower wind motor. But its got less top speed and less punch on the high end maybe, I havent tried either bike but thats how it seems
I live in vegas and I believe this bike would be perfect, I currently have a 2kw 48v 32mph max e bike and it works for a lot of back streets etc, however any time you hit any main road you really need to be able to do 45 min to be able to be in a safe place with traffic.
so when are u getting urs?? also what color?? I like it in blue...I think its an awsome bike checked it out of the expe..and the seats were much better or u cab buy tapia seats.
@DriverJ-N First, all the Goat bikes have long since had a software update, and they hit 45. Second, you can get a second battery and have 45ah and STILL pay $1000 less than this. I love Lyrics bikes, but you're speaking as if these 2 bikes should even be compared in the first place. The Goat is 2600w peak, and this bike is 7300w or something. This bike isn't even the same category as Goat, but Goat is so well made that people are just comparing this bike to the Goat because it's the best bike out right now. 4k or 2.5k? 🤷♂️
I’m glad he’s honest. Being that this bike doesn’t feel smooth on the road, or saying it’s not that comfortable, I’m going to pass on this bike. I think it’s kind of silly to pay $4500 and have to buy extra shocks or springs just to be more comfortable. I’m an old man, this bikes not for me. Although it’s one of the best looking bikes I’ve seen
Once rode my Honda PCX 150 scooter a few hundred miles at 105 degrees with full helmet and Joe Rocket jacket and pants. Gear has tiny pinholes for great airflow so it's cool even though it's black. Still searching for the right Ebike or maybe electric scooter/motorcycle to get. Definitely want turn signals and wide tires/mag wheels.
@@MrCentralDriver I saw your Power Goat video but I don't see one with the Billy Goat. Basically same bike with different frame for possibly smaller rider.
I think the issue with over heating is 80a through a 60v system. Picture 72v as a large hose and a 60v as a medium hose. 80a will flow more easily through 72v as opposed to squeezing it through the medium size hose of the 60v. But I’m no expert by any means, far from it actually. Just did a quick google search is all.
I have mine coming sometime in late April hopefully. Pretty excited for a good quality bike as ny current one even though they advertise made in America its all cheap Chinese electronics.
For $2k im trying to make an amyet g60 into a baby version of this with belt drive and motorcycle tires and brakes, its going to be close when all is spent.
The potential overheating issue is a concern of mine. I live in the Dallas Fort Worth area of Texas and in August, when my bike is due to arrive, it can easily get up to 110 degrees. This bike will replace my Walke H6 ST that I currently use as my only mode of transportation. My longest journey is the 7 mile commute to work, 14 miles round trip, everything else is within 3 miles of my house. I definitely won’t be out riding for long periods of time in that kind of heat so hopefully I don’t run into that issue. Now that Lyric knows it’s a potential issue, hopefully they’ll find a solution before the production models go out. Either way, I’m still excited and can’t wait to get my bike.
Well, I just received an email from Lyric Cycles . They state that delivery of batch one of the Graffiti X won't be in August. Now they are saying late September/ early October. I'm so pissed off. A whole month or two months delay. This is totally unacceptable. I guess I should have known. We were all warned about Lyric doing this. This after hearing about the debacle with the Voodoos. My warning to anyone considering ordering for batch two, WAIT until those of us who ordered in batch one receive our bikes in good working order.
Nice nice nice i like this bike. It looks heavy i just wonder how it feels to ride it. Looks crazy fast but a lil stiff and heavy?? So hard to judge 👨⚖️ but i love how it looks and how fast it goes 😂🎉
I'm still not impressed, I'm leaning towards a ERide Pro SS, I bet this Graffiti X has been tuned down, The speed and acceleration doesn't appear to be there Llke it was at first
Brute Cycle Works is my next ride. Don't ask Mr. E about it though, guy won't answer a direct question about range or if powerful lithium has a range extender and pleads ignorance when you do so. Frustrating for anyone who is interested.
I will say that you truly have been very fair when understanding new products and this type of R&D. Because you help so much in development and customer understanding of this product I recently purchased a Goat bike and will have it this week, but I feel like I went along on there quest to make a different ebike and now seeing this company doing a upgrade to the x is very similar.
I appreciate that!
@@MrCentralDriver
I respect your words and I hope I like the goat as much as you like the X.
man all these new 60v and 72 v taking off out of NOWHERE, i bought a revv1 FS end of january when it was still teh best buy out there, flash forward 3 montsh and theres 45-50 mph ebikes, i miss a few months ago when me and my revv1 doing 40 was insane. lol
Got a revv1 fs as well and it being a class 2 bike still makes it a great buy. They are cracking down on max speed and even motor wattage laws. I will wait for these new ones to be tested awhile as they might burn out and die fast.
@@ChrisC-qh4io Have a revv1 FS as well. Fully converted to 72 volt. It's the only way! And no, didn't follow how MrCD did it, converted the system to 12 volt lighting. 72 volt, 47ah, 100 amp sab, Maguras 220, 5kw hub motor. 1700 miles daily commuting, no issues other than the awful fork. It's essentially a Moto now. I think side by side its better than Lyric Graffti X.
I am relieved this Graffiti X did better cause I have one coming in Aug, lol. I am so excited about this bike actually showing up, can't wait to ride. Mine will be black BTW. Great review 👍Also, I love that this bike has a real horn! and you used it to get cars out of bike lane, awesome!
Only thing you'll notice is if you ride in 100degree + weather your speed and power will be limited. If it's not this hot you shouldn't have a problem. But yeah no issues. Working on my final video as well on this bike. And it's a long one
@@MrCentralDriver ghostcat just moved their black and white new f3 model to ship in mid aug 💀. Im pretty sure since I ordered when f2.2 was around ill get mine in July but im starting to think I should have invested a little bit more and gotten this one instead.
@@squared4659karma
I'm leaning towards a ERide Pro SS 2.0
@@killakev1187 Without pedals would be a ticket if rode on streets where I live. Also bike paths. Bike path security tried to ban my Grizzly but the pedal made it allowable.
Thanks again for the review and for taking one for the team in the heat. 100 degree heat to start is a tough one. Just about any ebike will have a slight thermal roll back in this kind of heat keeping 40mph speeds. Even your GoPro didn’t like it I guess. Couple things: grips can be changed to anything you like really, just put some slip on Moto grips of your choice. For the rear shocks you don’t have to replace the shocks, we sell different options for heavier or lighter springs, so just the springs would change. That’s pretty usual for suspension tuning on all bikes. Glad you enjoyed it!
I mentioned those two things in my next video. just changing the springs out instead of the whole thing.
What are the diameter of the grips if I were to order replacements? Also since you mentioned shocks what is the make of the front fork?
For the money being spent on the bike it's a big ask to have to spend MORE for the best spring option in order to have a comfortable riding experience. Not all of us have extra money sitting around for that. We should have the option to swap if necessary versus having to spend more money and then have springs that will not be used sitting around which is a waste. 🤷🏽♂️🙃
@@HeartEnergyHealingthis is not the common practice across the bike and motorcycle industry. All coilover shocks come with an average weight spring and riders have a lot of adjustability with the spring preload and air adjustment. The spring rate is just the ultimate in adjustability.
@@MrCentralDriver please ask them what they plan to do with the drop in acceleration before your next video! Half the reason I purchased this bike was for safety reasons with traffic. Defeats the purpose of owning one if I can't get up to speed with traffic. I don't want to have to cancel my order and shop for another bike. Awesome content by the way!
11:07 its probably a fast motor windings, like a 3.5T or something, where its slower at low speeds with less torque, but then once it gets going it takes off. And the goat power bike has good low end torque because its more of a slower wind motor. But its got less top speed and less punch on the high end maybe, I havent tried either bike but thats how it seems
Yeah, that's true. I didn't ask about the windings inside.
I live in vegas and I believe this bike would be perfect, I currently have a 2kw 48v 32mph max e bike and it works for a lot of back streets etc, however any time you hit any main road you really need to be able to do 45 min to be able to be in a safe place with traffic.
I know exactly what you mean. I had to make sure my bike could hold 45 mph so I could feel safe in Vegas roads.
@@KwameGH How'd you do it? did you just buy one that had a 45 mph speed limit or did you upgrade?
@@CodyLVsometimes you can upgrade the motor to a 72v or 60v system
so when are u getting urs?? also what color?? I like it in blue...I think its an awsome bike checked it out of the expe..and the seats were much better or u cab buy tapia seats.
Wow I wont touch this bike based on your comments on how crappy it is made.... Looks like im going with goat.
What comment?
I agree GOAT W
@@mustardpikachu3597 enjoy 35 mph after 20mins because of 20ah battery and top speed of 40mph even tho the speedometer says 45mph lol🤷♂
@DriverJ-N First, all the Goat bikes have long since had a software update, and they hit 45. Second, you can get a second battery and have 45ah and STILL pay $1000 less than this. I love Lyrics bikes, but you're speaking as if these 2 bikes should even be compared in the first place. The Goat is 2600w peak, and this bike is 7300w or something. This bike isn't even the same category as Goat, but Goat is so well made that people are just comparing this bike to the Goat because it's the best bike out right now. 4k or 2.5k? 🤷♂️
@@lilvegasbasc-se7en-0-duece67 no these bikes shouldn't be compared
Love your content bruh. Keep up the good work
Appreciate it!
I’m glad he’s honest. Being that this bike doesn’t feel smooth on the road, or saying it’s not that comfortable, I’m going to pass on this bike. I think it’s kind of silly to pay $4500 and have to buy extra shocks or springs just to be more comfortable. I’m an old man, this bikes not for me. Although it’s one of the best looking bikes I’ve seen
How long can you ride on a single charge
Once rode my Honda PCX 150 scooter a few hundred miles at 105 degrees with full helmet and Joe Rocket jacket and pants. Gear has tiny pinholes for great airflow so it's cool even though it's black. Still searching for the right Ebike or maybe electric scooter/motorcycle to get. Definitely want turn signals and wide tires/mag wheels.
I love your vids!! I wonder if they limited to 48mph to help w overheating issues. It doesn’t sound like much but def helps.
No they didn't change anything on this one.
Good thing I waited for the segway xyber X release instead. As always, love MCD honest reviews..
There is no real riding reviews of that bike yet
Shreddie mcskate did a review on a prototype.
Can you do the Billy Goat next? You might like the seating better.
Already did a video on it. You might have missed it
@@MrCentralDriver I saw your Power Goat video but I don't see one with the Billy Goat. Basically same bike with different frame for possibly smaller rider.
I think the issue with over heating is 80a through a 60v system. Picture 72v as a large hose and a 60v as a medium hose. 80a will flow more easily through 72v as opposed to squeezing it through the medium size hose of the 60v. But I’m no expert by any means, far from it actually. Just did a quick google search is all.
I have mine coming sometime in late April hopefully. Pretty excited for a good quality bike as ny current one even though they advertise made in America its all cheap Chinese electronics.
😂😂😂😂 e-bike mode on that turn had me dying laughing
I've had issues with people not using their turn signals so I've been taking the lane eastbound Tulare @ 41.
Yeah people suck. I'll no for next time to just hold traffic up
Which one is more comfortable in your opinion, this one or the C3Strom Astro Deluxe ? Thanks
C3strom.
@@MrCentralDriver because of the suspension?
Curious to know if you can swap the motor for a QS 273 if this can rival any other bike that has one placed already🤔
Weight wise, if you take out the battery is this thing too heavy to carry up a few steps?
So what I do is take out the battery then pick up the front wheel put it on 3rd step then push it up the rest which is like 5 more
For $2k im trying to make an amyet g60 into a baby version of this with belt drive and motorcycle tires and brakes, its going to be close when all is spent.
The potential overheating issue is a concern of mine. I live in the Dallas Fort Worth area of Texas and in August, when my bike is due to arrive, it can easily get up to 110 degrees. This bike will replace my Walke H6 ST that I currently use as my only mode of transportation. My longest journey is the 7 mile commute to work, 14 miles round trip, everything else is within 3 miles of my house. I definitely won’t be out riding for long periods of time in that kind of heat so hopefully I don’t run into that issue. Now that Lyric knows it’s a potential issue, hopefully they’ll find a solution before the production models go out. Either way, I’m still excited and can’t wait to get my bike.
I’m in Arlington I’m getting the bike aswell I think if we add heat sinks and statorade we will be fine
That's what I would do and eliminate that problem so u can go fast at all times
@@MrCentralDriver yep exactly
I’m further South from you guys and I’m waiting for my order in August as well. Hope they can heat proof their production model for us Southerners!
Pls review weped f1
Well, I just received an email from Lyric Cycles . They state that delivery of batch one of the Graffiti X won't be in August. Now they are saying late September/ early October. I'm so pissed off. A whole month or two months delay. This is totally unacceptable. I guess I should have known. We were all warned about Lyric doing this. This after hearing about the debacle with the Voodoos. My warning to anyone considering ordering for batch two, WAIT until those of us who ordered in batch one receive our bikes in good working order.
Nice nice nice i like this bike. It looks heavy i just wonder how it feels to ride it. Looks crazy fast but a lil stiff and heavy?? So hard to judge 👨⚖️ but i love how it looks and how fast it goes 😂🎉
To be honest not impressed for the price . I love your very honest reviews
Thanks
$3800 is nothing for this bike. Please show me a better deal?
I'm still not impressed, I'm leaning towards a ERide Pro SS, I bet this Graffiti X has been tuned down, The speed and acceleration doesn't appear to be there Llke it was at first
No pedals not worth the risk
hey fam, do i need a license to ride it?
No it is bike.
soon, maybe next year
Fine when I get mine I’ll add heat sinks and statorade and be worry free I guess
Why are u breaking all ur stuff
This motor will fry so quickly.
I guess Lyric made you take down today’s video. Whoops!!!! lol. Oh well. Thanks for keeping it real.
Brute Cycle Works is my next ride. Don't ask Mr. E about it though, guy won't answer a direct question about range or if powerful lithium has a range extender and pleads ignorance when you do so. Frustrating for anyone who is interested.
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7:41 liar liar, pants on fire 😂
All controllers should have thermal rollback.
Yeah they have to be setup for temp limits etc.
Why do people care about some motor noise? Not a factor..
Its Worth mentioning. Some people might
@@MrCentralDriver how bad its made and how you want to break it.. im passing for sure
@MrCentralDriver not a factor buying a bike. Just a picky preference
Are you one of the thumbnail Gods? That is such a cool thumbnail.
This guy got down 😄
Damn if im the company im freaking out on some stuff yo sayin. ill pass on this
Like?
@@MrCentralDriver bro this is a complete slay on the company lol... im passing now on this..
Why do you break every bike I like it though😂
Bike seems legit, GoPro not so much. Ditch it
It’s a prototype
Just buy insta 360 ace pro and overheating over !!!
The audio setup is something that would be difficult to setup compared to how my gopro is.
I don't know how u ride with all that smoke n the air from those wild fires burning n California
It's pretty bad. You can see it. Next video is worse
119? That’s how much I weigh :D
You'll fly on this than
pls can i have it for free
This bike looks and sounds like a pos.