AB, you asked him if he was loitering, which he refused to answer however he hadn’t identified himself as an officer? Wayne Cousins was in full uniform. Secondly people go to a railway station to meet friends etc. so obviously you don’t need to be travelling. Finally, I know you can’t fight the world BUT when that bull dog arrived why did you accommodate their privacy in public? Your battery didn’t run out did it? 😂
Not only do they take our money in taxes but have the cheek to ask for more every year through our council tax and what do we actually get the answer to that is this, the police needs a radical and major overall from the top to the bottom.
It's OK you saying that, but do you realise how many illegal immigrants are in the UK? Why is this unreasonable? Just asking the question so it's without prejudice
Yeah they sure do, and when it looks like they have exposed themselves they turn it around to make it look like they were actually acting in their best interest, chewing gum revealed his arrogance towards the public.
Overweight, slovenly, chewing gum, rude, ignorant of the law. The Met really will just recruit almost anyone these days! What an absolute disgrace these officers are.
@@RogerJoned Thank you very much. People come out with the most random non accurate minor pointers on this thing which beggars belief thinking “what are you seeing that I’m not or anyone else is seeing” 🙄
Looks like you made a new friend today,as he kept calling you "mate". Such a polite and civil attitude from our Stasi as he chews gum and presents such a aura of confidence in him.(beating you up).
She's in the wrong job then if she's dealing with...i mean pesturing the public, especially being in Victoria train station its not ideal there for space, so she's either being sexist with that comment or paranoid i don't know
She may as well just say directly 'women are not cut out to be police officers'. That's what her remark basically amounts to. You can't simultaneously play the victim and exert authority over the public. Pick a role.
'Legal requirement: Section 42 of the Police Reform Act 2002 mandates that PCSOs must produce their designation card when using their powers.' It should also say 'When abusing their powers.' 🙃🙂👍
@@rogerborgthat’s actually incorrect. A Police Community Support Officer (PCSO) is required to show their designation card upon request from any member of the public, regardless of whether that person is directly involved in the situation. This is part of ensuring transparency about the powers that have been designated to the PCSO by the Chief Constable. Refusing to show the card, even to a bystander, could raise questions about the legitimacy of the PCSO’s actions and undermine public trust. The designation card clarifies the PCSO’s authority and powers in any given situation, so any member of the public has the right to ask for it. However, although showing the card is a legal requirement it is not a criminal act, refusing to do so could lead to disciplinary action by the police force they are part of. This could include reprimands, warnings, or further investigations into their conduct, as transparency and accountability are key expectations of the role.
Plastics should _never_ have been created in the first place. It's a role that's attracted the very worst of the thugs and mongs that couldn't even make it as a warranted constable. Well, I've let them know, which takes about 2 minutes. If everyone leaving a comment here did the same, perhaps this might change. Probably not, but we ought to make the effort.
@12:47 baldie guy is police undercover 😁😁😁 On another note: all these online via e-mail complaints are not even opened to look at, those are deleted immediately. To make a complaint against police officers you must make it in writing at the office and get a registration number so you can follow up the inquiry if there is one and the steps taken after. All this e-mail bullshit is to cover up their illegal behavior and ignore general public.
@@davidbarlow350 If you are going to criticise somebody's ignorance then you have to be really careful not to show yourself up as the same. Keep trying, you'll get the hang of it though.
I was surprised at home many serving officers have criminal records. I thought it was instant dismissal, like it would be for me in my NHS job. But I guess it's special treatment for them?
Can't believe she pulled the "as a woman" card. Does she realise she's a police officer and what she's signed up for? She's intimidated by men standing behind her?
@@Garyshepherd-vd1zm _You_ misquoted by omission. They only have to show their designation card to people on who they are using their powers, not to anyone that they engage with, or who asks to see it. So, did you lie because you're ignorant, or lie because you're just a liar?
That female officer had more excuses than a kid who hasn’t done their homework. Thin blue line crap as usual. God they are about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.
When the officer said " As a woman an its not very nice having a man quite close to you." So there is two tier police standards?, One for Men, one for women?. That is an admission that not all police officers are equal.. Pulling the feminine card is wrong . That should be a complaint on its own.. As for Gum boy refusing to show his card Calling a member of the public "mate " And chewing gum. All prove his training is lacking, or he chooses to go rogue. All three reasons should be enough to reprimand him, and get a training refreshers or sacked
So the PCSO is struggling to get the man's details, asking the man for his name, address, where he was born ETC. Yet a few minutes later he said to AB 'I know him, I see him here EVERY DAY'. Clearly that was a lie.
@@nibbletouch7566Are you not aware of the situation that was going on? AB was being an interfering tw*t and people will say anything to get rid of that person. Whether the PCSO knows him or not is none of yours, mine or ABs business. Bottom line don’t obstruct officers when they’re in the middle of something. This point would hold no barring anywhere be it complaints, courts, solicitors office because it’s not relevant to the person asking the person. I would suggest just watch the video if you really must do so but don’t take ABs videos seriously. It should only be watched if you have a spare 10-15mins to spare and that’s it. Nothing more!
4:20 He claims to see the guy everyday and knows him. Yet earlier near the start of the video he was asking the guy with anything that had his name on it. So he doesn't know the guy. What a liar.
The law that created the PCSO's, The Police Reform Act also requires them to produce a designation card that shows the powers granted to them by their Chief Constable. IT IS THE LAW.
Rather than just ask the PCSO to show his designation card they would rather you make a complaint...perhaps knowing the complaint will amount to nothing
4.45 - "I don't need to show you anything". 1 - that is factually INCORRECT 2 - that contravenes policy and protocol 3 - is that what Wayne Couzens said to Sarah Everard As a bonus, he is also wrong about being allowed to chew gum. That is one arrogant, misinformed, ignorant and dangerous PCSO. We the public are PAYING to have that fool on the streets, making the public LESS safe.
"Yes, PCSOs (Police Community Support Officers) in the UK are required by law to carry and show their designation card when requested, as it confirms their identity and the specific powers granted to them. This requirement is set out under the Police Reform Act 2002, which governs the role and powers of PCSOs. Specifically: Under Section 42 of the Police Reform Act 2002, a PCSO must be able to prove the powers they have been designated by their Chief Constable or Commissioner. The designation card acts as this proof. The card confirms which of the possible powers available to PCSOs (such as issuing fixed penalty notices, requiring a person's name and address, or detaining someone) they are authorized to exercise. If a PCSO fails to show their designation card when requested, they would be in violation of their operational requirements, although the act itself doesn’t specify a criminal penalty for failing to do so. It would, however, be considered improper conduct."
This shows exactly how much respect the police have for the general public, NONE. Rather than show you his designation card, as they are required to do by law, they would rather tell you to make a complaint. The Police Reform Act 2002 requires PCSO's to produce a card to show what powers have been designated to them. Also, apart from having massive egos, the female suggests they have extra rights over men about who can stand behind her as opposed to a male. And we are actually forced to PAY to be treated with contempt.
Maybe he needs reminding of Section 26 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act. A police constable committing the offence of using powers and privileges improperly while on duty may be imprisoned for up to 14 years.
Let's ALL email a complaint about these two PCSO's chewing gum on duty & reminding them they need to show their designation cards when dealing with the public.
Watch the video. Under Section 42 of the police reform act 2002 PCSOs must produce a designation card upon request. An Act is a type of law passed by parliament. Breaking a law is a criminal offence. Thus the PCSO committed a criminal offence. It would be hard to defend this as ignorance of the law is no defense.
@@blobrana8515 he only needs to show it to the person(s) he is 'dealing' with. The 'auditor' deliberately tried to provoke him and furthermore as the 'auditor' was inside the station concourse, he had no right to film under the circumstances without consent.
@@neilhartland8694 wrong. If you watch the video you can see the PCSO approached and made the first interaction; and thus had to show his desegregation card upon request. As for taking photographs it is perfectly legal and lawful to photograph anything and anyone in a public place or in a place with implied public access.
@@blobrana8515 The auditor approached/got involved in the PCSO dealing with someone else thus provoking a response. The PCSO didn't actually use any 'powers by asking the auditor's details so want's technically dealing with him. A railway station isn't a "public place", it has implied access to members of the public who have a genuine reason to be there (as with any other 'public building'.
LEGALS 1) Plodess (rather bitchy, we know why) says "it's not on to see her national computer". True, but it's HER duty to protect it, full stop. Her fault. 2) PCSO ... Arrogant, aggressive, mate not sir, chewing gum, refused to show designation card, didn't warn of covert filming. Needs firing. Page 23 of PCSO "behaviour and purpose instructions" states they "must follow the police code of ethics", and in there you'll find ALL the above were not followed. Simple. So he lied. He has to be fired...
so the last female police officer wasted 30 mins trying to find out information on the designation card when a quick google would have confirm it in seconds - when she did find out she couldn't confirm what the interaction was and so couldn't determine if he had to show it or not - why is she trying to be a lawyer just make him show it - this country is a complete mess
Because he doesn't have to show it, except to someone on whom he is actually exercising his designated powers. A quick google would have confirmed this in seconds.
my limited knowledge, for what its worth. They dont like being told by the public what they should or shouldn't do. I suppose one reason could be that they would be public puppets otherwise. Doing things that anyone tells them to do. I expect they have a certain procedure to follow, with regards finding out things, but google is also available to them somewhere down the procedure list. The chewing gum rule seems bit petty/silly, although some people really give it the open mouth chewing, and perhaps blowing bubbles with it ( though the blowing of bubbles may come under the bubblegum rule ), so chew properly if you are going to chew. lol Presumably the designation card is needed when they stop someone and do things like detain them etc. If they refuse to do it then, then that is wrong to do.
Hardly surprising when one of her colleagues at Manchester Airport had her nose broken by a man and that man and his brother have still not been charged.
PCSO should be sacked immediately. He HAS to show his card. And the chewing gum thing... Every! Single! Time! If they're chewing like that they're ALWAYS nasty. Always. No exceptions.
I am not a PCSO either but I know that if a member of the Public ask a PCSO who has engaged with them to show their Designation Card they must do so Section 42 Police Reform Act.
A friend of mine is a 20yr experience PC in the Met in Central London. He came back from a sabbatical recently as he's too young to retire. He was shocked at the poor state of the Met officers these days. He cannot wait to get out ASAP.
The female Police Officer was nice but not helpful, she used ignorance as a defence to not taking action against the PCSO, which is obviously not a defence. She then actually received confirmation that you were right and still took no action. Police will always try and cover each others backs, if they can, it's part of the on the job training. The CIT guy at the end was brilliant, clearly having a bad day, with customer service skills like that he should be in the Poice service.
That police woman is awful, how dare she imply because a man is standing close to her he might assault her?. Besides her job is to stop people being assaulted so how good could she be at that job if she has no confidence in herself as a contestable from being a deterent from being assaulted herself, let alone detering an assault on a vulnerable member of the public?
Quite - what a terrible excuse. The real reason, of course, is that they don't like members of the public observing them. So much for 'policing by consent'.
@@B-26354 I actually never knew that .... I guess it gives them the power trip which they shouldn't have ... especially when they are not able to arrest like police officers
@letstouchtheworld Well BTP PCSOs do have their own powers of detention which are like arrest only worded as a detention in legislation, they can hold people using reasonable force for 30minutes until the arrival of a constable, this is alongside their general any person powers of arrest which include indictable offences and common law prevent breaches of the peace - any person arrests also have the ability to use reasonable force. It was widely reported at the time PCSOs were incepted by BTP that the environment they work on necessitates the ability to restrain someone until police constables arrived, you wouldn't want people fighting their way onto railway tracks etc.
Section 42 of the Police Reform Act 2002 requires PCSOs to produce a 'designation' upon request when exercising any powers under the Act. The designation is not prescribed but it should list which powers have been designated and must describe the approved uniform.
Policing is in the gutter. Even the "good" female cop was out of line. 'Bully' guy from before is a problem. I worry for the people and animals in his life.
I would have thought every Police 'person' should have known all the rules for a PCSO? Are they PSO's then Police? Even so, their ranking should really understand what powers a PCSO should have... it seems like when you challenge some of these people they always have to contact their supervisors!? What does their training actually involve!? Great video again AB
Many people say AB makes coppers look foolish......the truth is they have become magnificently adept at looking like complete idiots on their own. AB just holds the lens.
"I didn't see any of that, so I can't help you with that" Coppers all over the globe use this, but when they want to stitch you up they don't need to have seen anything. Doubler standards.
Nothing more than an other aggressive and stupid criminal in uniform - abusing, harassing, bullying... without any competence, professionalism or conscience!
In the factory where I worked, I used to have nice chats with a fork lift truck driver, about football, holidays etc. Nice enough bloke but you tell he wasn't the sharpest tool in the box. I hadn't seen him for a while and asked one of his colleagues where he was. I was amazed to be told that he had left and was now a PC.
Why do they invoke their ignorance to delay and deter themselves from doing the right thing? If they researched and consulted this much AB would have fewer vacations.
@@rogerkangaroo6118 Correct, the bylaw does still exist just not the "Law" on loitering, obviously the bylaw only applies to railways but also has strict boundaries on it so they can't claim he's loitering till he's been asked to leave: "13. Unauthorised access and loitering (1) No person shall enter or remain on any part of the railway where there is a notice: (i) prohibiting access; or (ii) indicating that it is reserved or provided for a specified category of person only, except where he belongs to that specified category. (2) No person shall loiter on the railway if asked to leave by an authorised person. "
AB' s spy glasses show the real state of the British police force
And the non-police police force.
The police have been turned into a political instrument of control & repression. This video demonstrates that.
Stood at the top of a busy staircase, these cops have no consideration to others
Yes I'm travelling fro m A to B 😂
@@rogerborg😂😂😂
These are the best of the best that the UK Police can offer. They take our money in tax to pay for these idiots. We're doomed.
AB, you asked him if he was loitering, which he refused to answer however he hadn’t identified himself as an officer? Wayne Cousins was in full uniform. Secondly people go to a railway station to meet friends etc. so obviously you don’t need to be travelling. Finally, I know you can’t fight the world BUT when that bull dog arrived why did you accommodate their privacy in public? Your battery didn’t run out did it? 😂
They're pcso's not police.
She was actually really nice (one out of 100…) and she pays a price for being nice - getting assaulted by her monster male colleagues
Not only do they take our money in taxes but have the cheek to ask for more every year through our council tax and what do we actually get the answer to that is this, the police needs a radical and major overall from the top to the bottom.
@@Alien_O1so who are they employed by?
Police sure know how to pick on the vunerable. anything for an easy shift.
Absolutley this.
They are not looking for real criminals.
It's OK you saying that, but do you realise how many illegal immigrants are in the UK? Why is this unreasonable? Just asking the question so it's without prejudice
i wanna se them tryna to mess with a big time lawyer
Yeah they sure do, and when it looks like they have exposed themselves they turn it around to make it look like they were actually acting in their best interest, chewing gum revealed his arrogance towards the public.
these pcso's are so embarrassing, strutting around like Billy big bollocks when they're basically just a snitch they gave a costume to
💯 ... That's EXACTLY what they are ... Police Community SNITCH Officers !
Interference officers.
Brilliant description😅
No. The idea of PCSO’s is ok but some of the PCSO’s don’t do their jobs properly or they overstep the mark.
Sounds like you’re hurting inside cos he’s taking your tax money and there isn’t a thing you can do about it 😂😂😂
Overweight, slovenly, chewing gum, rude, ignorant of the law. The Met really will just recruit almost anyone these days! What an absolute disgrace these officers are.
They still rush their lives so you can comment from the comfort of your own home. Without the force you’d be living in fear
He's British Transport Police.
He’s hardly overweight, you need your eyes checking. He’s very normal
You are absolutely spot on with your analysis of the state of them mate 😮😮
@@RogerJoned Thank you very much. People come out with the most random non accurate minor pointers on this thing which beggars belief thinking “what are you seeing that I’m not or anyone else is seeing” 🙄
Don’t stand so close to me was a record released in. 1980 by funny enough the POLICE have a listen.
What an unprofessional and unqualified, two tier embarrassment of a "Police force"
matches the two tier politics
What are the two tiers that you can perceive?
@hassyg4083 What are the two tiers you are aware of?
@@davidsmith5523 in UK you have 2 sets of Politics. left and right. its two
Police Farce!
Absolutely disgraceful from the fake bacon
Zero confidence in our police, they are so badly trained
Sure are ,the parents of these cops failed to train them on the niceties in dealing with the common folk.
They are trained exactly as our masters like.
@@adrintait4660you are spot on this isn’t poor training it’s deliberate and recruiting people easily malleable
OR ? think they are above The Law 🤦♀️🤡🤡
8 stone soaking wet W.P.C's are about as useful as a chocolate kettle when the proverbial shit hits the fan
The PCSO said he knew the man he was talking to. All I could see is that he and the police officer were bullying him for his personal details.
The only thing that they're good for is *arresting people* for saying mean things on Facebook.
Clowns🤡
💯
Every time I see a PCSO, I hear the faint sound of a barrel being scraped somewhere...
That description is perfect.
Lol spot on ..with a victim mentality thrown in.
😂😂😂
That's excellent.
😂😂😂😂🛢💩
As a women if she is uncomfortable with members of the public being close perhaps she should find a more suitable employment.
Or maybe look behind her in the station at Couzens and Carrick and the rest of them.
Such as standing behind a counter
Silly woman
@aamaplease don't paint us al with the same brush as women liyahkhan1524
Looks like you made a new friend today,as he kept calling you "mate".
Such a polite and civil attitude from our Stasi as he chews gum and presents such a aura of confidence in him.(beating you up).
"As a woman, i dont like men standing close to me. "... dear god, the police are in a bad way.
while she stands anywhere in that area men are walking so close if one was a threat shed be dead before she knew it!
She's in the wrong job then if she's dealing with...i mean pesturing the public, especially being in Victoria train station its not ideal there for space, so she's either being sexist with that comment or paranoid i don't know
As a member of the public I don’t like the filth abusing their powers…silly moo/ trough dweller
She may as well just say directly 'women are not cut out to be police officers'. That's what her remark basically amounts to. You can't simultaneously play the victim and exert authority over the public. Pick a role.
The police officer was trying to get an answer from her supervisor. The problem is, will the supervisor know the law?
Not every bit of legislation no.
Legal requirement: Section 42 of the Police Reform Act 2002 mandates that PCSOs must produce their designation card when using their powers.
To the person that they're using them on. Not to anyone that they engage with.
He was using his powers to make AB leave the station.
'Legal requirement: Section 42 of the Police Reform Act 2002 mandates that PCSOs must produce their designation card when using their powers.'
It should also say 'When abusing their powers.' 🙃🙂👍
@@rogerborgthat’s actually incorrect. A Police Community Support Officer (PCSO) is required to show their designation card upon request from any member of the public, regardless of whether that person is directly involved in the situation. This is part of ensuring transparency about the powers that have been designated to the PCSO by the Chief Constable.
Refusing to show the card, even to a bystander, could raise questions about the legitimacy of the PCSO’s actions and undermine public trust. The designation card clarifies the PCSO’s authority and powers in any given situation, so any member of the public has the right to ask for it.
However, although showing the card is a legal requirement it is not a criminal act, refusing to do so could lead to disciplinary action by the police force they are part of. This could include reprimands, warnings, or further investigations into their conduct, as transparency and accountability are key expectations of the role.
@TheCraftyRabbit22 what are you on about
Plastics should _never_ have been created in the first place. It's a role that's attracted the very worst of the thugs and mongs that couldn't even make it as a warranted constable.
Well, I've let them know, which takes about 2 minutes. If everyone leaving a comment here did the same, perhaps this might change. Probably not, but we ought to make the effort.
They created them to save money on real cops
absolutely agree
PCSO s are basically trainees for the Police
Agreed
Love that description…”mongs” haha. How appropriate 😂
Useless cops won’t do a thing about plastic cops!
What can they do?? Nothing. They’re only PCs
@12:47 baldie guy is police undercover 😁😁😁 On another note: all these online via e-mail complaints are not even opened to look at, those are deleted immediately. To make a complaint against police officers you must make it in writing at the office and get a registration number so you can follow up the inquiry if there is one and the steps taken after. All this e-mail bullshit is to cover up their illegal behavior and ignore general public.
He's a plain clothes Revenue Inspector.
“As a woman I don’t like a man standing by me”, she should be sacked for saying that.
We all know women can’t be sexist…. It’s a man problem apparently. 🙄😉
Worse, he doesn't say he self identifys as a man, transphobic cop
@@minixtvboxsexist, transphobic cop
Lmao@@minixtvbox
What do they put in there recruitment drive? "We're looking for ignorant losers"
Job done.
They might get you to explain the difference between the word 'their' and 'there'.
@@reluctantheist5224
Another contestant for pedant of the year.
Mummy must be so proud.
@@davidbarlow350 If you are going to criticise somebody's ignorance then you have to be really careful not to show yourself up as the same. Keep trying, you'll get the hang of it though.
@@reluctantheist5224
Don't need to with you,as you're quite capable of showing it to everyone.
Start pulling officer training records. Some of these officers/pcso’s look like they’ve a skeleton or two in the closet.
Excellent idea 💡
Great idea, please let us know what you find.
@@rogerborgbe as subtle as you want, filming is not going to stop, suck it up.
I was surprised at home many serving officers have criminal records. I thought it was instant dismissal, like it would be for me in my NHS job. But I guess it's special treatment for them?
@goodyeoman4534
It is criminal anyway
As soon as the police find out that someone is an auditor, they act so nice , helpful and professional !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I am not going to show you my powers"
Off the scale of arrogance
Can't believe she pulled the "as a woman" card. Does she realise she's a police officer and what she's signed up for? She's intimidated by men standing behind her?
And we would trust this officer to deal with a crime 😅😅
Notice how hard it is to see identifiers, cleverly covered up and tucked away
Section 42 of the police reform act 2002 say he does have to show his designation card upon request...State of the British police is a joke
It's not helpful to anyone; misquoting the law by leaving out important information. Be better. "When using powers".
Who's misquoted the law nobody apart from tge PCSO joker...@@JoeyRhubarb
@@Garyshepherd-vd1zm _You_ misquoted by omission. They only have to show their designation card to people on who they are using their powers, not to anyone that they engage with, or who asks to see it. So, did you lie because you're ignorant, or lie because you're just a liar?
Then you are wrong they were using their powers on the guy the were asking his details to and they didn't show him either so you are also wrong
@@Garyshepherd-vd1zm You have. Read it in full and spot the difference.... It's not difficult.
She came and stood between you and the guy they were questioning, then says I don’t like people standing behind me 😂
Quite -and whist surrounding the person being questioned as per usual
That female officer had more excuses than a kid who hasn’t done their homework. Thin blue line crap as usual. God they are about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.
When the officer said " As a woman an its not very nice having a man quite close to you."
So there is two tier police standards?, One for Men, one for women?.
That is an admission that not all police officers are equal..
Pulling the feminine card is wrong . That should be a complaint on its own..
As for Gum boy refusing to show his card
Calling a member of the public "mate "
And chewing gum. All prove his training is lacking, or he chooses to go rogue.
All three reasons should be enough to reprimand him, and get a training refreshers or sacked
So the PCSO is struggling to get the man's details, asking the man for his name, address, where he was born ETC. Yet a few minutes later he said to AB 'I know him, I see him here EVERY DAY'. Clearly that was a lie.
Was he struggling? Was the street beggar putting up resistance? Think you’ve been watching a different video bud.
@@danm9319 the point is he didn't know the man's details at all. 5 seconds later he was saying he knows him and sees him there every day.
@@nibbletouch7566Are you not aware of the situation that was going on? AB was being an interfering tw*t and people will say anything to get rid of that person. Whether the PCSO knows him or not is none of yours, mine or ABs business. Bottom line don’t obstruct officers when they’re in the middle of something. This point would hold no barring anywhere be it complaints, courts, solicitors office because it’s not relevant to the person asking the person. I would suggest just watch the video if you really must do so but don’t take ABs videos seriously. It should only be watched if you have a spare 10-15mins to spare and that’s it. Nothing more!
4:20 He claims to see the guy everyday and knows him. Yet earlier near the start of the video he was asking the guy with anything that had his name on it. So he doesn't know the guy. What a liar.
@@TheSadButMadLad my sentiments exactly
Don't be silly it's a basic requirement for a police officer
@@robba1234yea if you have committed a crime.
They all lie... standard
Not necessarily. I see people at work every day, I may even "know" them - but I do not necessarily know their full details.
The law that created the PCSO's, The Police Reform Act also requires them to produce a designation card that shows the powers granted to them by their Chief Constable. IT IS THE LAW.
Only to the person against whom they are exercising those powers. Not to just any random passer-by.
To their victims, not to anyone who asks.
@@rogerborg Wrong.
@@TheHovelWrong.
@@pooooornopigeon He's not wrong, just take a quick look at the statute and it'll confirm what he's telling you.
Rather than just ask the PCSO to show his designation card they would rather you make a complaint...perhaps knowing the complaint will amount to nothing
A police officer is uncomfortable with a member of the opposite sex standing behind her in the street? WTF
She should go home and bake cookies.
4.45 - "I don't need to show you anything".
1 - that is factually INCORRECT
2 - that contravenes policy and protocol
3 - is that what Wayne Couzens said to Sarah Everard
As a bonus, he is also wrong about being allowed to chew gum. That is one arrogant, misinformed, ignorant and dangerous PCSO. We the public are PAYING to have that fool on the streets, making the public LESS safe.
Why do all pcso refuse to show any I.d it seems to be a common theme. Think they are above the law, bad attitudes and cocky persona
Look who they emulate --- regularly P.C.'s . 😮
Because PRA 2002 S42 only requires them to show their designation card to their victims.
Because they’re embarrassed that they don’t have any real powers imo. Ego.
Yet they desperately need ours like a junkie needs his fix.
Bad attitudes and bad training
De-escalated quickly he knew he was out of his depth he's a public servant and will address AB with respect Period!!
Respect , the general public does nothing to aid to assist and one in need
@@mariepickton8656 your entitled to your opinion! I'm entitled to mine!!!!!
"Yes, PCSOs (Police Community Support Officers) in the UK are required by law to carry and show their designation card when requested, as it confirms their identity and the specific powers granted to them. This requirement is set out under the Police Reform Act 2002, which governs the role and powers of PCSOs.
Specifically:
Under Section 42 of the Police Reform Act 2002, a PCSO must be able to prove the powers they have been designated by their Chief Constable or Commissioner. The designation card acts as this proof.
The card confirms which of the possible powers available to PCSOs (such as issuing fixed penalty notices, requiring a person's name and address, or detaining someone) they are authorized to exercise.
If a PCSO fails to show their designation card when requested, they would be in violation of their operational requirements, although the act itself doesn’t specify a criminal penalty for failing to do so. It would, however, be considered improper conduct."
This shows exactly how much respect the police have for the general public, NONE. Rather than show you his designation card, as they are required to do by law, they would rather tell you to make a complaint. The Police Reform Act 2002 requires PCSO's to produce a card to show what powers have been designated to them. Also, apart from having massive egos, the female suggests they have extra rights over men about who can stand behind her as opposed to a male. And we are actually forced to PAY to be treated with contempt.
As a woman its not very nice having a man standing close to me. PARDON? REALLY?
Must be some feminist BS.
Can't assume it's a man
Don't leave your house then.
Don’t go outside then
She obviously prefers women standing close to her
As a woman it’s not nice having men stood behind me’
She’s in the wrong job
She's on the wrong planet! 😂
@@Sasquiny ha ha ha
Isn’t that sexist and breaking some kind of law?
I bet back at the police station there are plenty of men stood behind her waiting for ago on the station bike 🤔😁
She belongs to the streets
Male PCSO is dangerous with his attitude towards the public. Needs retraining.
Needs to be sacked and given anger management....same as the G4S bloke at the end
Another Wayne Cousens in the making
Can't polish a turd.
You can't educate pork!
All the comments coming from the triggered internet clowns that no nothing about how policing and the role of how PCSOs work
The complaint against the PCSO may as well be sent to the PCSO’s mother because nothing will be done.
Nothing will ever be done because there was no wrong doing here. Very experienced PCSO well done to the guy 👍🏻
She doesn’t like someone standing close to her?! Ffs! in the wrong job if your worried about that!!
Doesn't like people near her.Proceeds to get a job at one of the busiest train stations in Europe.🤡
He was pulled up on his unprofessionalism, & he didnt like it! He needs to set the standard, before he tries to enforce anything. Well handled AB!
Maybe he needs reminding of Section 26 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act. A police constable committing the offence of using powers and privileges improperly while on duty may be imprisoned for up to 14 years.
He isnt a police constable.
Let's ALL email a complaint about these two PCSO's chewing gum on duty & reminding them they need to show their designation cards when dealing with the public.
Oh dear! What a sad lonely bitter life you must lead! I'll pray for you 🙏😢
# chewing gum is not a crime!😂
@@juliegwilliam8503 Thank you for your prayers - let's hope God gives you a sense of humour & also explains what sarcasm is !!!
@@philnewton-england7795Actually my friend you just made yourself look at tit that wasn’t even funny in the first place
The PCSO who broke the law should be dismissed immediately. We cannot have criminals working as a PCSO.
What law was broken?😂
Watch the video. Under Section 42 of the police reform act 2002 PCSOs must produce a designation card upon request.
An Act is a type of law passed by parliament. Breaking a law is a criminal offence. Thus the PCSO committed a criminal offence. It would be hard to defend this as ignorance of the law is no defense.
@@blobrana8515 he only needs to show it to the person(s) he is 'dealing' with. The 'auditor' deliberately tried to provoke him and furthermore as the 'auditor' was inside the station concourse, he had no right to film under the circumstances without consent.
@@neilhartland8694 wrong. If you watch the video you can see the PCSO approached and made the first interaction; and thus had to show his desegregation card upon request. As for taking photographs it is perfectly legal and lawful to photograph anything and anyone in a public place or in a place with implied public access.
@@blobrana8515 The auditor approached/got involved in the PCSO dealing with someone else thus provoking a response. The PCSO didn't actually use any 'powers by asking the auditor's details so want's technically dealing with him. A railway station isn't a "public place", it has implied access to members of the public who have a genuine reason to be there (as with any other 'public building'.
Unprofessional chewing gum, charmless encounter. Thank you AB.
Police chewing gum is always a big red flag.
Probably high on something
Standards in the police have have declined, remember when they were smartly dressed.
bald head, tattoos
Commies chew big red flags
And that damn black and white flag.
He's just ruined his chance of becoming a real police office
Lucky us I guess
Exactly the opposite.
He's prime candidate for fast-track promotion.
No they need people like him to enforce things like Lockdowns
@@brianmurphy8790 Wrong colour.
I was going to say it's pretty much guaranteed a leading role somewhere.
Or he'll be cheif constable in 6 months
0:44 Peter Griffin.
😂
The grumpy PCSO was out of order with his attitude and his understanding of his duties and needs retraining.
"Are you travelling?"???? What a joke and how sinister
And if you're not travelling you're 'loitering'. In Victoria fkg station!!! What a joke indeed
@@28johann1
Technically he is correct, railway stations are their own regulated spaces with criminal byelaws in place.
There are shops in the train station aren't there? This fool thinks you aren't allowed in if you aren't travelling, what a 🤡🤣
Are you travelling?
Sure. I'm not at home, am I?
@@AdMycroft-fb1eo I'd reply did you not see my parachute as I landed...😂🤣
The police don’t want people recording them abusing their powers.
She stood right in front of AB 🤯 who was there first! She should change her job if she’s so fragile!
'Mr Illegal Powers With Chewing Gum', what an absolute state!!!!!!!
Based on her logic, if the police don't witness any law being broken then they can't do anything about it....
LEGALS
1) Plodess (rather bitchy, we know why) says "it's not on to see her national computer". True, but it's HER duty to protect it, full stop. Her fault.
2) PCSO ... Arrogant, aggressive, mate not sir, chewing gum, refused to show designation card, didn't warn of covert filming. Needs firing.
Page 23 of PCSO "behaviour and purpose instructions" states they "must follow the police code of ethics", and in there you'll find ALL the above were not followed. Simple. So he lied. He has to be fired...
Great exposure of these rogues, SO SO different when they don't know they are being filmed. Keep up the good work
so the last female police officer wasted 30 mins trying to find out information on the designation card when a quick google would have confirm it in seconds - when she did find out she couldn't confirm what the interaction was and so couldn't determine if he had to show it or not - why is she trying to be a lawyer just make him show it - this country is a complete mess
You think they're allowed to just Google these things?
Haha you haven’t got a clue - they google drone laws and criminal law sections all the time - clearly you don’t watch many auditor UA-cam videos
WOKE
Because he doesn't have to show it, except to someone on whom he is actually exercising his designated powers. A quick google would have confirmed this in seconds.
my limited knowledge, for what its worth. They dont like being told by the public what they should or shouldn't do. I suppose one reason could be that they would be public puppets otherwise. Doing things that anyone tells them to do.
I expect they have a certain procedure to follow, with regards finding out things, but google is also available to them somewhere down the procedure list.
The chewing gum rule seems bit petty/silly, although some people really give it the open mouth chewing, and perhaps blowing bubbles with it ( though the blowing of bubbles may come under the bubblegum rule ), so chew properly if you are going to chew. lol
Presumably the designation card is needed when they stop someone and do things like detain them etc. If they refuse to do it then, then that is wrong to do.
Female cop doesn’t like people standing too close to her. You’re in the wrong job then.
Hardly surprising when one of her colleagues at Manchester Airport had her nose broken by a man and that man and his brother have still not been charged.
PCSO should be sacked immediately. He HAS to show his card. And the chewing gum thing... Every! Single! Time!
If they're chewing like that they're ALWAYS nasty. Always. No exceptions.
Triggered much! 😂
@@danm9319 People still saying "triggered" and not even getting it right in 2024? Mad.
Rumour has it the pcso is still trying to undo the knots
😂😂😂
Fatboy, definitely wants to be a proper copper,already got the attitude,he'll do well in the MET!
Fat? He isn’t fat. Unless you’re on about the older guy at the end. Need to get those eyes checked out
@@danm9319 are you a fatty ?
I am not a PCSO either but I know that if a member of the Public ask a PCSO who has engaged with them to show their Designation Card they must do so Section 42 Police Reform Act.
To be fair, if they've gone over into the corner out of the way of you, they are trying to create a space with the expectation of privacy.
A friend of mine is a 20yr experience PC in the Met in Central London. He came back from a sabbatical recently as he's too young to retire. He was shocked at the poor state of the Met officers these days. He cannot wait to get out ASAP.
And they wonder why we hate them...
Arrr, they don’t wonder at all… they don’t care.
the fact they have to go check if they have to show their Designation Card is so stupid
She can't even stand up without leaning against the wall while dealing with the public
Yep!! The glasses let them think they are safe from all records of their behaviour!!
CAUGHT RED HANDED!!!
Why does the guy have to give the cops his details in the first place? And if the cop knows him as he says, why doesn't he know his name?
“Please don’t stand so close to me” … by … the Police. I think that is irony n’est pas?
The female Police Officer was nice but not helpful, she used ignorance as a defence to not taking action against the PCSO, which is obviously not a defence. She then actually received confirmation that you were right and still took no action. Police will always try and cover each others backs, if they can, it's part of the on the job training. The CIT guy at the end was brilliant, clearly having a bad day, with customer service skills like that he should be in the Poice service.
She can’t do anything with the PCSO anyway, she isn’t his boss she’s just a regular Bobby 😂
That police woman is awful, how dare she imply because a man is standing close to her he might assault her?. Besides her job is to stop people being assaulted so how good could she be at that job if she has no confidence in herself as a contestable from being a deterent from being assaulted herself, let alone detering an assault on a vulnerable member of the public?
Quite - what a terrible excuse. The real reason, of course, is that they don't like members of the public observing them. So much for 'policing by consent'.
How does AB know “she” isn’t a biological male 🏳️🌈 and won’t se3ually assault him, by backing up into AB’s Flag Pole 🍆
Women like her say they must be treated the same as men, but when it suits them, they pull the Being a Woman card.
If she's that scared in her job, maybe she should go and become a hairdresser.
Definitely a feminazi
My late grandfather was a Police Superintendent (his brother a Chief Constable) they would be disgusted what has become of the Police.
Don't want to hear the phrase, "As a woman I (insert complaint) . . ." from a female law enforcement officer. Inferiority complex admission.
As a woman I don't like being questioned by a member of the public.
A PCSO with a handcuff? Really?
No wonder he's on a power trip 😅😂
BTP PCSOs have always had handcuffs
@@B-26354 I actually never knew that .... I guess it gives them the power trip which they shouldn't have ... especially when they are not able to arrest like police officers
The handcuffs go with the leather mask and golf ball they also carry
@letstouchtheworld
Well BTP PCSOs do have their own powers of detention which are like arrest only worded as a detention in legislation, they can hold people using reasonable force for 30minutes until the arrival of a constable, this is alongside their general any person powers of arrest which include indictable offences and common law prevent breaches of the peace - any person arrests also have the ability to use reasonable force.
It was widely reported at the time PCSOs were incepted by BTP that the environment they work on necessitates the ability to restrain someone until police constables arrived, you wouldn't want people fighting their way onto railway tracks etc.
Under British law, pcsos must show their designation card upon request. Failure to do so is considered a crime.
Really? Is it law or policy?
@@konsul2006 Law. Google it.
Is it? We go by law. Not policy.
That’s interesting
@@konsul2006 it's law not just policy
What's happened to the police in the UK? 'As a woman' ? Christ
Section 42 of the Police Reform Act 2002 requires PCSOs to produce a 'designation' upon request when exercising any powers under the Act. The designation is not prescribed but it should list which powers have been designated and must describe the approved uniform.
Policing is in the gutter. Even the "good" female cop was out of line. 'Bully' guy from before is a problem. I worry for the people and animals in his life.
So PCSO apparently knows who the gentleman is, but still requires his details. Is he worried he might have a twin brother or something?
PCSO Carrick/ Couzens
The sketchy guy ran off chewing gum when ya said it to the female PCSO 😅
I would have thought every Police 'person' should have known all the rules for a PCSO? Are they PSO's then Police? Even so, their ranking should really understand what powers a PCSO should have... it seems like when you challenge some of these people they always have to contact their supervisors!? What does their training actually involve!?
Great video again AB
Many people say AB makes coppers look foolish......the truth is they have become magnificently adept at looking like complete idiots on their own. AB just holds the lens.
"I didn't see any of that, so I can't help you with that" Coppers all over the globe use this, but when they want to stitch you up they don't need to have seen anything. Doubler standards.
copsplaning at the end , wish they would just do their job!
There are shops in that station so no need to travel.
Quite - shops, loos, pubs, restaurants, cafes, even a piano!
Nothing more than an other aggressive and stupid criminal in uniform - abusing, harassing, bullying... without any competence, professionalism or conscience!
The young WPC is really a credit to the Met, sadly I dont know her name, but well done !! Possibly her Inspector/Sgt should also congratulate her
In the factory where I worked, I used to have nice chats with a fork lift truck driver, about football, holidays etc. Nice enough bloke but you tell he wasn't the sharpest tool in the box. I hadn't seen him for a while and asked one of his colleagues where he was. I was amazed to be told that he had left and was now a PC.
Happened where I worked, I said arnt you too short? I passed him months later he was shorter than me wearing a helmet, and I'm only 5,7.😅.
Officer was doing so well, until she started stating she doesn't like "men" standing near here
Why do they invoke their ignorance to delay and deter themselves from doing the right thing? If they researched and consulted this much AB would have fewer vacations.
Loitering hasn't been an offence for many many years.
Railway byelaw number 13 is still very much active
@@rogerkangaroo6118 Correct, the bylaw does still exist just not the "Law" on loitering, obviously the bylaw only applies to railways but also has strict boundaries on it so they can't claim he's loitering till he's been asked to leave:
"13. Unauthorised access and loitering
(1) No person shall enter or remain on any part of the railway where there is a
notice:
(i) prohibiting access; or
(ii) indicating that it is reserved or provided for a specified
category of person only, except where he belongs to that
specified category.
(2) No person shall loiter on the railway if asked to leave by an authorised
person.
"
If he knew the guy, why did he need to get his details announced in a public place?