BlacKkKlansman - What's the Difference?
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- One of the years most talked about movies, BlacKkKlansman is up for the Best Adapted Screenplay Oscar. So how did Spike Lee and company go about adapting the so-crazy-it-has-to-be-true story of Ron Stallworth's infiltration of the KKK? It's time to ask, What's the Difference?
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I STILL can't resist laughing at the people using tiki torches when they march as if that's supposed to be some sort of threat..
NotUsingMyName Oh, I’m sure the feeling is mutual...
Plot twist: it was all just a gag
NotUsingMyName they’re trying to imitate East European nationalist marches with flares and real torches. Watch vice’s videos on Polish or Ukrainian nationalist rallies and you’ll see what they’re aiming to become.
It gives it a angry mob feel. All they needed was pitchforks
I know right? Looks like they’re going to the beach unless they’re the kind that keeps away insects then they’re just being sensible
Ron also did substantial undercover spying and reporting on the Black Panthers. Both the book and the film underplay that issue.
ProfVRandall _ you act like he had a choice in that matter. That was his assignment. Why is that an issue? The Black Panthers were considered a terrorist organization at that time (not saying that was right). And he was doing his job.
@@graysonchristian2668 She never villified him in his comment sir
The film doesn’t portray it directly, but it does embody it when he goes undercover at the beginning and in it’s general conversation about the innate corruption of cops. I’m more disappointed that they left out the wife being Mexican, which would’ve added a lot to her already good character.
Nicanor Núñez I think there’s a big difference between what he did which hurt no one. And Nazi soliders
@@graysonchristian2668 Discriminating and ruining the freedom to use the second amendment is hurting no one?
I took a film as literature class in school and I remember the teacher saying once “‘based on real events’ doesn’t mean they’re a direct reflection of what happened”. I take that into consideration when looking at movies. Loved the BlacKKKlansman tho
Honestly the book sounds more interesting. While a lot less action, the plot to suppress the growth of white supremacists and keeping the peace sounds better imo
It would make a great show I would like to see the other cops go undercover in the different clans and report back on their status
I think this is a job for a netflix series honestly. You'd get more scope for low action tension and drawn out in depth storytelling.
Well one is a book and one is a movie
It was an amazing book, but the movie is also really good.
6:02 if this photo exists i need to see it
According to interviews with the actual Ron Stallworth, the actual photo was unfortunately lost.
@@TheGoodWario From now on it will forever live in our hearts
Too bad Ron didn't say......1......2.....3..... when taking the photo ;-)
Made up, Ron didn’t “lose it” he never took it. David Duke was a damn politician at the time he wasn’t appalled by being with black people. He spent over an hour with Tommy Sotomayor (a black guy) in an interview telling the truth about this fake propaganda film.
@@youtubeuser2188 links to the interview?
Another major difference is the events described in the book happened in 1979, but the film is set in 1972. Why the change? Because Spike Lee felt like it.
That's weird, why would he change the time setting.
There might be other reasons for it, movies do this all the time. Maybe he felt like the real events were overshadowed by something else that was going on in 1979 and he didn’t want people talking about how he didn’t make a movie about that event instead. It might not have been because he just felt like it
No. It was to parallel the Nixon re-election.
Beware: Incoming heated racial political comment threads!
There are a few people legitimately defending the KKK in the comments, too bad that the dislike button on UA-cam is fake so they're guaranteed to get attention.
nXca1ibur you sure about that, or did you just jump to conclusions?
I can’t be too sure since y’all always put your ideologies before even hearing the other’s argument🤷🏽♀️can you fault me for that?
@@nXca1ibur I think that's my biggest pet peeve of social media sites. That they either dont have a dislike button or they do and it doesnt do anything.
We gotta make sure people get their dopamine response for getting 500 likes but hide the 1000 dislikes.
@@kittycat5972 I have no idea what you are talking about. I meant it literally, there are people straight up defending the KKK in some of these threads, at least there were when I read some.
I am not willing to do it again though because it is too depressing to remember how insane a portion of the American population is, especially since their narrow-minded idiocy has been leaking into the fringe groups of my country and beginning to have an affect on our politics bringing us close to an economic nightmare that they promised they were preventing.
@@kittycat5972 Furthermore since I'm a moron that can't let things go, I am blown away by the sheer lack of self awareness in the second half of your reply. Are you seriously accusing people of putting their ideologies in the way of learning about the situation? That is the gold standard of American politics and media, to the point where you are literally lied to about things that take a five second Google search to disprove, but many are all too happy to completely ignore reality and engorge themselves on the fabrications that help to support their political stances, no matter how outdated, dangerous, or simply stupid they may be.
The movie also didn't talk about Ron infiltrating "black radicals" and acting as an informant on the very people he was depicted as protecting, and dating, from a bomb threat that also never happened. It was a VERY good movie, top 3 Spike for me, but it also completely avoided Stallworth's role as a cop at that time and paonted him as much my sympathetic to a modern audience than he would otherwise have been had they stuck to the facts.
How did the movie "not talk" about Ron infiltrating black radicals? It's literally his first undercover job.
@@5Xum The film portrays it as a one time thing, when he did so for several years in real life.
MegaJabboy but it called the blackkklansmen the story revolves round his in there
If they portrayed it realistically then people would call this film racist. INCAR would openly talk about harming “pigs” and even got assault charges on them. Ironically they were more dangerous than the KKK which never did anything in the book.
@@moscuadelendaest Difference is they had assault charges and openly violent language. The kkk according to the book had nothing on them and were very "palitiable" in their language. It seems like you don't give a damn about violence so long as it isn't racist because that's the true evil.
Great job on the video. Another thing of note is that the investigation actually took place in 1979 but Lee moved it to 1972 so that the Nixon re-election campaign could be going on in the background.
This film deserved the oscar nod but why Black Panther?
Solomon Kane only a cac would think a movie exposing white supremacy and racism is "anti-white"
@Solomon Kane Okay, Mr Duke.
@Solomon Kane Have you even watched the movie?
@Solomon Kane Spoken like a true white supremacist.
You can bet your bottom dollar Spike Lee would eradicate the white race if he could. The goddamn Soviets couldn't make better propaganda than him.
"Never considered black women in terms of beauty." That guy was missing out. Laura Harrier is so fine.
.....damn right....just damn right
@@rokkfel4999 Especially back in the 70s when fros were in.
That would have made an interesting scene, actually. I'm actually surprised they didn't put it in.
@@clarinamascarenhas7499 Yeah that seems like a thing Spike Lee would've been interested in exploring.
Or Cleopatra from those blaxploitation films. Cant tell me that aint fine
anyone else just hears Star Wars when he says stallworth
Such a good movie. Thanks for the engaging video as always.
@CW AMVS Very thoughtful words.... care to elaborate?
Bradford Jones I really enjoyed how it portrayed the situation we got to see both sides it didn’t glorify the black panthers or anything but it also showed the evil of the KKK
Bradford Jones assuming CW AMVS is black, as an African-American myself, I apology for that idiots comment
Thomas K “as an African-American myself”
“As a Caucasian myself”
Do Zodiac your emperor demands it
You aren't an emperor. You are dictator and consul for life, but still no Princeps, Imperator or Dominus
Did your stab wound healed?
ngotuanbao507 A: no they didn’t have hospitals in hell
ave true to ceaser
Jesus I thought they killed you
I'm kinda disappointed that "What's the Difference?" and the rest of CineFix focuses almost exclusively on recent releases now. Really miss the pleasant randomness of the old videos from before the Mashable buy-out.
wonderfulkitty well they did the mask and the iron giant in the last month
They just did It's A Wonderful Life. Check it out.
So basically, the movie takes a real and change it to be more dramatic and entertaining. Like most Biography films. A great film nonetheless
Please Do No Country for old men
scottmrn235 There arent that many major differences between the two. It would probably be pretty hard to make a full video with that.
They are pretty much the same thing
what's the difference? there's more internal monologues from sheriff Bell and Anton explicitly shoots Carla, instead of just implied off screen. everything else is the exact same
I highly recommend Spike Lee's "Bamboozled". Watch it back to back with "Black Klansman" for full effect.
Howls Moving Castle is having its 15th anniversary soon and i thought a Whats the Difference episode on it would be sick.
This movie... my God! Thanks Spike Lee!
Still better than Spike’s remake of Old Boy
eh, it was just okay.
@Finn MacCool Why would I be liberal!? That's crazy, I'm not.
Yeah dude it was good. Did you watch Bamboozled? Its one of his vest films.
Tim Jordan let’s not that dumpster fire.
We need more guys like Ron Stallworth
Man, I remember joking that in today's times, White Supremacy, Anti-Immigration, Antisemitism, and all that racist stuff was beginning to become (for the lack of a better word) out of fashion, and that the biggest cause of conflict in the nation today is differences in opnion on films. Maybe I've been in too much denial, or maybe I just don't know any better because I don't live in America.
Being against mass migration is not racist
PLEASE. Cinefix PLEASE. Do metro 2033. It would be a great what's the difference. PLEASE.
Weird.
I think a UA-camr named the DOM is doing it
Game follows the book almost to a letter, nothing to compare. And books is a poor fiction on its own, it reads like a script for a game.
@@catfoy8888 Yay Dom!
@@tenow Clearly you haven't played the games and read the books. Games look into books for characters and setting, they follow the story quite loosely. At least i can remember quite a few differences.
Well I’m glad to see that acting gets passed down in the genes.
@Henry Stax *ain't got shit
Jayden Smith says otherwise
BlackKklansman was without a doubt my favorite movie of 2018. So strong, powerful and well crafted. A masterpiece through and through.
Bouddica The Sleeping Lion
I think they’re being sarcastic... and i doubt you fam, or are you sarcasming? Shit, we need to put right wing nazi russians in some sort of symbol so we know who has the inferior ideology...
@@aeoncalcos3246 Learn to spell before calling someone's ideology inferiour.
@@aeoncalcos3246 woops fell right into my traaaaap
Another inaccuracy is when Ron meets Stokely. Stokely said and I quote “Brother, arm yourself and get ready because the revolution is coming and we’re gonna have to kill whitey. Trust me, it is coming.”
Page 29 of the payback movie cover one
Second to last paragraph
His name is Kwame Ture.
Black man can not be violent, they all good and did nothing wrong.
@Herr Goober It's irony bruh
I like how short your videos are and how they get straight to the point. Keep at it!
For one, the movie's version of Ron didn't have that big of an afro.
Thanks Cinefix! This was my favourite film of 2018, to the extent that I went out and bought the book. It's true it is quite the departure. The book is good but this is a rare example, I feel, where it was used as a catalyst to make an incredible, thought provoking film that is even better than the book that proceeds it.
I was aware of some of the differences, (not all, thank you for pointing them out) but I still thought it was a very poignant film. Lee still has a talent for style and evocation, and he certainly puts it on display here. Does the film exaggerate the true story? Yup, but I found it quite enjoyable, and ultimately, pretty eye-opening as to how far backwards we've seemed to start moving when it comes to race relations in this country. If this were released 10 years ago, it would've turned people off, but given what we've seen in the past 3-5 years in particular, I thought it was a pretty appropriate dramatization of a true story that really matters. I personally think it's a great film, and one of the best in Lee's body of work. Just my opinion guys.
I'll be completely honest. The only reason I watched the movie was to see how much of it was filmed in my hometown, Colorado Springs. As it turns out, not really any of it was. There were a few shots thrown in of Garden of the Gods but that's pretty much it. Great movie though. There were a few lines of dialogue of street names and whatnot that were totally accurate and I thought that was interesting
I know how u feel, I was super excited when I found out Ron Stallworth is from my hometown, El Paso Texas. But it's only briefly mentioned in the film, oh well still a great movie though.
I like the fact that when Spike Lee heard about the story, he (like most people) instantly thought of the Chapelle skit.
Can you a redux list of the Top 10 Most Beautiful Animated Movies of All Time?
do bohemian rapsody vs the real story of queen
This might be my favorite episode
Sokka2Me American psycho is my favourite
I’m pretty ticked off that the movie is inaccurate then the book. It’s even more inaccurate than The Social Network. They should have taken the same concept but not basing it off of Ron’s story so the writers can have the freedom to add whatever they like. But I got to admit the film is good.
This really isn't a book you can adapt beat-for-beat without making it into a miniseries or a documentary series. But i feel like this still stayed true to what Ron wanted to say in his book.
Such a shame to learn how most all of the movie was made up.
Still a good movie.
Art can be a perspective on reality, and can show us more about the real world. It's like how once photography advanced to the point that painting became obsolete for realistic representations, painting became more abstract and adopted new styles. A photograph shows you what you can see; a painting can show you feeling.
Film can works similarly. Rather than just showing you matter of fact, artistic license can emphasize the emotion of the artist and streamline the important parts.
I felt that way about war dogs. For my enjoyment i treat all true story movies as bullshit and look up the true story after the fact. Makes things less disapponting.
@@superzario1000 I just pretend they really happened.
@@moscuadelendaest I thought it was a fun movie. Maybe you're just upset because Nicholas Cage is an underrated actor, so you shit on everything that takes fame away from him?
sonicpsycho13 That’s how propaganda works as well. I have no problem with the film. I just wanna put that out there.
I am so glad Spike Lee had Ron answer that phone in the end!!!
I love the amount of respect given from the video to both of the stories it's such a frightening topic that seeing them take ot completely seriously felt nice
I think this film deserves Best Picture. It was an amazing film to watch, through and through.
What about "What's the difference? George Orwell's books"
Spike Lee is one of my favorite directors, “Do the Right Thing” was an amazing movie as well
I would love to see an episode on the umbrella academy!!
Do Trainspotting already!😤
Can you do holes what's the difference? Also thank you for doing this for black history month 👏❤🌹
The movie was fine, but not worth a nomination for best picture, same goes for Black Panther, Bohemian Rhapsody, A Star is Born, Vice, etc. but my money’s on Black Panther winning just so people can put up the “WERE NOT RACISTS” sign up.
I don't think Black Panther has any chance at winning. Seems like Roma is the frontrunner, with Green Book and The Favourite behind it.
Ryan Khanna I actually liked the Green Book. Id be alright with it winning.
Black Panther won't win. Bohemian Rhapsody is fine and the finale was awesome, but it's kind of a standard rock star movie. Can't speak for any of the others personally.
You should do a "whats the difference?" of How to Train Your Dragon!!!!!!!!
The books and movie are completely different
This is the only movie to actually bring me to tears.
I went to see this with a friend of mine. Who is a little more conservative then I am. But he did not understand the movie. He thought Spike Lee was saying both sides are wrong. I was just like dude....it’s about white supremacy being alive and well and how we haven’t changed much in 40 years.
White supremacy is not alive. This film is just racially and politically charged nonsense where just about everything is made up. It insults the middle class by calling legitimate issues plain racist. Literally where is the white supremacy? Charlottesville? That was purposely made up when the cops didn’t defend the people who had organized a protest of the tearing down of monuments? The 1 death? Happened when people people attacked his car and made him panic. What about the FBI busses pulling in clowns with swastikia t-shirts as if they couldn’t fake a more obvious nazi. This is so obvious yet people just don’t think and dismiss as “nazi nazi nazi!!”.
@@youtubeuser2188 Someone's watching InfoWars.
How about in 2013, when the North Carolina GOP legislature literally asked the University of North Carolina how they could suppress black voters, then used that exact information to create their voter ID law, which the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously described as racial voter suppression "with almost surgical precision?"
sonicpsycho13 lets go even deeper like this years elections when the governor of Georgia literally said “we need to stop those people from voting.” When he said those people he was referring to black voters. Then he systematically made it harder for them to vote. Like I do not we’re Team10 is getting is craziness from. But white supremacy is here to stay.
@@sonicpsycho13 on top of that David Duke is still politically relevant and has a following to this day.
@@youtubeuser2188 I think if you're purposefully searching for anything denouncing white supremacy as still relevant, that's all you're going to see. I don't think it's as accepted or prevalent but it still exists. It's just changed what it looks like to be more palatable to the masses. Ron Stallworth recognized this from early on in his work. The movie is dramatized and fictional for the most part, but it's source is not.
All the changes added in for the movie were for the worse. I was honestly surprised that Lee made such a tame, easy to stomach movie about this subject matter.
Yea, hearing how a man had his genitals cut off and was set on fire over and over was very easy to stomach. I think Spike Lee did a great job
@@rachelchapman4315 show not tell
lil mercutio Spike did. Big photos of Jesse Washington were shown during the scene.
I hope we can learn to end the hate between all of us.
As I would hope this be true, it is easier to hate one another than to settle differences and reconcile. Nuance is a long forgotten word.
Some Nobody
Agreed but let’s be honest, it won’t happen and if it does no human would exist, no animal would exist, worms won’t even exist. Everyone hates someone no matter what. Shit, i hate your name because it’s edgy. I hate myself for being lazy as hell and not getting a profile pic yet.
@@aeoncalcos3246 You can do it pal! This may seem like a joke but you can basically get anywhere if you just make one tiny step at a time.
The movie and book are prophetic... and, to date, it was the only time in a movie theater when someone took it upon themselves to apologize and hug me.
Nettrice Gaskins, whoa. How did that go?
I doubt it.
So let me get this straight...
This isn't Undercover Brother???
the movie was great but the ending took such an unexpected turn it startled me
Would love you to do a whats the difference video of Stand By Me and the novella, The Body.
Since Perfect Blue (the light novel) is available, and the Perfect Blue anime will be pressed anew, why not ask "what's the difference".
if this doesn’t win best picture, i hope it at least wins best screenplay or spike lee wins best director after his “Do The Right Thing” snubs
It's got my pick for Screenplay. This video communicated how I feel about while it's an adaptation and changes are necessary, this worked for conveying the message, themes, and ultimately morals that the book seems like it was trying to illustrate
Oh No!
agreed! @@kanucksfan94
Spike finally got his oscar!!!
Now, i still want my Percy Jackson, pretty please...
You guys did comics before, hows about the looney ass mayhem of a Tv show, “Happy!” And yes it’s a really messed up funny book too.
This video doesn't mention the encounter with NORAD. In the book, the identities of the agents are unknown to Stallworth. In the film, Spike Lee namecalls "Steve and Jerry."
Can you please do a What's the Difference with the Disaster Artist?
Oohhhh, that'd be good...! And kind of necessary.
Next do the Jungle book, Life of Pi, Watership Down, Animal Farm, Forrest Gump, Crazy Rich Asians, Misery, and 1984 please?
I liked the movie and it was about a subject I had not known that much about (I don't live in the States). But it must be much more interesting to watch this movie and know it's about your own history. Nice video by the way.
I feel for the person who has to work through all the bullshit in the comments. If this person exists, keep it going buddy.
Nice to see you learn from fake dramatized popcorn films rather than reality.
I will, thank you for the appreciation!
Although I know that Lee's direction is remarkable in this film and his Oscar nod is well-deserved (finally!), I really really hope that the Oscar will go to Pawel Pawlikowski or Yorgos Lanthimos. Honestly, Lee's position here is like the cliche "he-who-should-have-won-long-ago" drama where a well-known filmmaker didn't win an award in the past for a film which was considered as his magnum opus and then finally won one but for much undeserving film considering there were better contenders at the time. Basically it's like a long-awaited recognition that came with bad timing. AMPAS is such an asshole.
I would like an episode on the movie Mudbound. More so because it was nominated the year before.
Cool flick, nonetheless. I personally would’ve loved to see a story being done in the the book was written. And putting Spike Lee flavor all over definitely took whole thang even beyond what is on reading material.
I feel the connection to President Trump is a bit shoehorned in, other than that: 10/10
Completely agree
I really want you guys to do It's Kind of a Funny Story. It's one if my favorite novels. Though the movie is pretty good, I think it could be better.
Blackkklansman is my favorite movie of the last year
It's a pretty average flick.
@@mamzersdream1 to you it is. Not millions of others who dont think so
@@mamzersdream1 Yeah. They should've got a better director.
Curtis Dexter lmao what Spike Lee is a legend
@@curtisdexter3054 It should have been so much better. They really should remake it.
So. Damn. Good!
Endless Love, What's the difference. The 1981 film was almost well adapted from the book, but the 2014 version was so bad. It's even the worst book to movie adaption I have ever seen
Another adaptation critic named krimson rogue covered it off its any help
You want to see something awesome regarding that movie? Check out The Cinema Snob. He does one of the best reviews of that movie.
Here's the link. Its not the original upload...probably got a copyright strike on his channel but at least someone else put it on UA-cam. ua-cam.com/video/0jWz8rn5zcI/v-deo.html
I think it would be awesome if you guys covered Wanted on What's The Difference. I know the movie is just loosely based on the comic but I think it would be a great episode!
Sounds like black panther is the film closer grounded in reality.
The original book was indeed published in 2014, but it is a different cover and version than the one shown. The original was published by a family-run company named Police and Fire Publishing. I would be interested in whether they used the original or the updated 2018 release of the book for this video.
Please do Alita Battle Angel!!
Do The Strain differences, please! I’m reading the books and it’s so good, the tv adaptation is different in plenty parts of the story but is the same feeling
BlacKkKlansman was the most talked about film in 2018? REALLY? Not Infinity War? Or The Last Jedi?
Last Jedi was released in 2017
@@marko-gj1uj yeah. But people spent the entirety of 2018 talking about it
The Last Jedi? Nobody I know was talking about that movie; all the talk I saw and heard was about Bohemian Rhapsody.
Damn I enjoyed that film. I’m a little disappointed you didn’t mention the subtle nuances like in Patrice’s character, or Ron’s first under cover scene. How people fighting for a good cause can also be radicalized if they focus more on their hate for the enemy instead of what they’re actually fighting for. Also the scenes cutting from the speech about Jessie to the KKK meeting shows the differences between the groups, except for the last ones which shows a small similarity.
Great vid...but no one seems to notice this....the thing that chilled my bones and made me sick (in addition to the news footage)
(At 7:22 in this video....)
....and with 3-4 additional quick scenes in the film, with one long shot slowing rising up under the hood at the burning cross scene (in the movie), we see that THIS specific Klansman...IS FLIP. You can see his beard when the camera pans up under his hood, and those are his eyes
He is not chanting , but he is wearing General/higher position robes. (We know from seeing stripes on certain sleeves earlier on)
This leaves the audience with the conundrum of:
1. Did he resume his undercover work? Everyone who could bust his cover died in the explosion and Connie had her face on the ground so she didn't see him. (He could get around the name thing easily)
Or, more likely for the message of the film and the overall power of the statement,
2. He was seduced by the evil charisma of David Duke...showing just how systemic the racism in America really is. It can be your "friend and co-worker" and still stab you in the back.
It feels very Spike Lee and Jordan Peele to have this staring you in the face and smiling, only to be brought to light... by the light of the burning cross.
There are other moments in the film that when viewed in this unfortunate light, actually could support it.
(Some examples include: his over- zealous reaction at initiation to the film (or is this just deep cover), his sudden admission that he never really grew up Jewish nor does he have a deep connection to it (kind of suddenly detached and odd to put out there), his back is to us in the phone scene at the end, so while we see him laugh a little his face/intentions are symbolically concealed, name symbolism...Flip?)
I feel most people miss this moment at the end because the horrifying news footage seamlessly follows with the audio cue of the "Blood and Soil" chant.
Maybe we are supposed to "miss" it the first time around because we don't want to think of Flip that way...just like we may not want to think of certain friends or family who say terrible things, as terrible people....but when you REALLY LOOK, you see the truth of a person. Remember the robe conceals...it is a lie about who you are...just like fake friendship or fake smile. It hides the racism in plain sight. So could Flip.
I wish someone interviewing either Spike or Jordan would ask this question for clarification directly.
Maybe we aren't supposed to know exactly WHY he is there...or maybe we already know and just don't want to admit it. I, personally, feel it is the latter.
The movie is incredible, terrifying and so important.
That was a really interesting and well thought-out analysis! ^_^ I especially liked your description of the robe and its hiding the true nature of the person beneath it. In a way, it reminds me of one of my favorite songs from the Motown genre (although I forget the name of the singer/band who performed it) called, "Smiling Faces." The lyrics of that song illustrate the kind of deception that you described so eloquently. Anyway, thank you for sharing your thoughts publicly. They were thoughtful, intelligent, and on top of all that, well-written from a literary standpoint.
@@loneronin6813 The Undisputed Truth is the band. Great song :D
Thank you. Your compliments are very appreciated. I was viscerally moved by the scene, but have found no one else talking about it.
Additionally, this is the nicest UA-cam interaction I have ever experienced. :)
I will check out that song.
@@ligeiaztomb2755 You're certainly welcome! I've enjoyed your analysis and you deserved some recognition of that. I hope you are doing well and that all things go your way :)
Additionally, have you done any writing of reviews for film? I think the way you presented your opinion sounded very professional.
If that is indeed Adam Driver, the most likely explanation is that they had a scene with him in a cross burning and decided not to use the scene but use the footage of it for the end.
It makes no sense to make him a villain, especially after how he was treated when one of the klansmen suspect he's jewish
I'm still getting over how much the actor looked like the real guy after seeing the photo.
If they'd have taken his hairline back just a little bit it would have been spot on
My opinion on "Spike Lee Joints" has always been mixed. On one hand, he is a very capable and talented director, but so often he proselytizes to the point that his work suffers. In my opinion, his work would be so much stronger if he didn't constantly browbeat the audience with the message. Just look at the ending of Do The Right Thing... Lee actively rails against those who question Mookie's actions, both in the film and out. Unfortunately, starting with She Hate Me, it seems that he no longer trusts his audience, nor really respects them. BlacKkKlansman would have been so much better without the cutaway to Charlottesville. As it stands, what would have been a very engaging (if borderline fictional) film feels like it's sole purpose is as a political statement. The shame of this isn't that a statement is being made, but rather that what would otherwise have been a complex look at hate, uncertainty and fear is boiled down to "Man, those white supremacists sure are bad, right?" Lets be honest, this isn't something that has to be beaten into someone watching A SPIKE LEE MOVIE! Had he been able to control his urge to spoon feed the audience his point at the end, not only would the entire film be more compelling, but it would doubtlessly have a longer lasting impact, beyond our current political climate. Lee is a master of visual film-making to be sure, but in trying to say SOMETHING, it feels like he himself didn't see what his creation had already said. BlacKkKlansman was a good movie, but had he trusted his audience it could have been great.
Maybe the film was to subtle for you at points but it definitely is a complex look at hate, fear, and radicalism. Just look at all of Ron’s scenes with Patrice, his first undercover scene, and the last two shots of the cutting scene from the speech about Jessie to the klan meeting and it is obvious what the movie is trying to say. The cutaway to Charlottesville was showing what extremely radicalized people can do and all you saw was white supremacy bad. Maybe you were the one who needed to be spoon fed but that not what happened in the end.
Interesting. I think I will stick to the book version. I don't need the excess...
Please do Alita Battle Angel Movie and Manga comparison. 💜
I agree never seen the manga but the movie was awesome.
Given its popularity, I was wondering if u guys would consider and episode for "the umbrella academy"?
this was probably one of the best movie of the year if Spider-man into the spider-verse came out in January in stead
Quite honestly, I think the book from the details is better than the movie actually. I would incorporated all the details in Ron Stallworth's book in the movie (Stallworth's backstory as a officer cadet graduating at the age of 19 and dealing with narcotics, Stallworth's wife, the co-worker's black women remark, the Klan ad, the inclusion of other hate groups as well as departments and leftist organizations, having Chuck not Flip Zimmerman as well as Jimmy and the other agent, Ken and the other outlandish racists, Ken's Mexican wife, the complex operating by Stallworth against the Klan, David Duke's debate with a black history professor and Stallworth disappointed, Stallworth toying Klan membership and saving the evidence as well as refusing to answer the phone, the unmasking of Klan members in NATO). I would also put the film's setting in 1979 since that's when the investigation occurred and have movie Stallworth look like his real-life counterpart and the tone would be a police procedural/noir detective story.
Try metro and the books
The lynching made me fucking cry
Such a good movie, and perfectly adapted from the book. It should win all the awards!
You guys should do Steven King's Misery Next, I'd love it if you did
Plz plz plz do one for Forrest Gump!
This is a great book. I hope they get a good director and remake the movie.
PotBoyz
It’s so politically charged, it hurts the “based on the novel” part of the movie.
I loved the YMS Oscar video where they replace Spike Lee's face with Waluigi's; he's such a cartoon these days. The poor man's race baiter is what I call him. For the most part, I liked BlacKkKlansman, but then you get to the end 2017 Charlottesville's incident montage, and then, BOOM, straight to Trump. That's when it lost me and reminded me it's a Spike Lee film. Your politics are yours obviously; you do you, but that part.............😑
And for those who are unsure, or those who wanna try twist my words, the part where it goes straight to Trump is where it lost me, not the Charlottesville incident itself.
You don't see a link between them? No blatant support for each other?
@@5Detective I see support for freedom of speech; the KKK's opinions and views are detestable, but even if they didn't have a constitutional right to freedom of speech we would give them the right to express their opinions, as long as they're not threatening or physically attacking people right? Trump said there we're bad people on both sides, and he was right. The racist skinheads one side, and the far leftists and antifa the other side. If Trump's some Nazi, KKK supporting fascist, he hasn't shown it and it's not been proven.
@@philingrouille7198 "far leftists" isn't a hate group. "Antifascists" aren't a hate group, even if I disagree with their methods. The neo-nazis and KKK are hate groups. They were encouraged by Trump. David Duke himself loves Trump. The hate group tried to commit mass murder. You can't see a difference in the people in those groups. You can't see the difference between freedom of speech and emboldening hate groups and racism. It's easy to see who your sympathies lie with.
5Detective
Antifa assaults anybody they disagree with. I’d call that a hate group. And I’m sorry to break it to you, but everyone has a right to say what they want, even if you disagree with it.
Kevin Robinson
It goes beyond that. I’ve seen his Twitter. He quite despises trump
He had to be Jewish, that scene with Driver and Washington when he said he had never been Jewish but now it's the only thing he could think of, it was really poignant, I loved it.
So you have to consider beauty just based on their color skin?
people have preferences
I am somehow glad that I missed this film . . .
Jussie should be in the sequel.. to make it more realistic
Spike deserved his Oscar for this movie
this should win best picture
LOL
no and i'm black
hell no, this is a joke
It is a legitimately better film than half of the nominees. I hope it gets Adapted Screenplay.
Would you please do a What's the Difference on The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?