Blade Runner - What's the Difference?
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2017
- With Blade Runner 2049 hitting theaters, let's take a look back at the original movie and the book that inspired it, Philip K. Dick's "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" With NO RESTRAINT ON SPOILERS, it's time to ask What's the Difference?
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just finished the book in a single sitting. what a book, man. the atmosphere and Deckard's inner dialogue are so entrancing.
I'm planning to read it. can it be done in a couple of days?
@@raniedelfajardo742 yes i think so
@@raniedelfajardo742 read it in a single Sunday so probably yes
In the book, the characters talk about animals. Like A LOT. Owning animals is basically the only thing anyone cares about. Owning a REAL animal is 100x better than owning a replicant animal, but people want one or the other either way. Killing an animal is crazy immoral. People are even troubled when they watch "old" movies where people are eating animals, they are utterly disgusted by the immorality.
I dont know why im saying this. I just thought some people would find it interesting that the original book is really obsessed with this concept.
Hunter of Earth sounds like today
Having read the book like 10 years ago, I actually remember that part about animals very vividly. To be honest, I find the film and book both equally good in their own ways. Its hard to compare which is better.
Hunter of Earth Ohhh was Owl in movie was a replicant
yes :)
Jeremy from Cinemasins was confused by all the animals in the movie. Having watched the movie, read the book, and watched the movie again, the animals make way more sense.
Small detail - Deckard is eating Japanese not Chinese food. It's minor but notice all the Japanese stuff throughout - the giant Geisha billboard, Japanese characters everywhere, seems like Japanese language is used a lot... It's a thing of it's time (late 70's/80's that is) where the expectation (and fear at times) of the coming Japanese industrial domination and the decline of America is extrapolated into the world we see in Bladerunner...
that was japanese, and there are plenty of japanese things as you said. but there are also chinese. the eyeball guy was cantonese i'm pretty sure. theres some chinese graffiti in one part
@@barrelrolldog but the majority of it was Japanese, only very few parts are chinese related.
Has anyone pointed out that Clint and Michael sound way too alike?
Guypersonmanthing3 Not to me, but I'm a walking voice recognition unit.
Two people were talking?
They certainly do
Shut up that was two people narrating this video..
I'm not entirely convinced they're two different people
Kinda oversimplified the conclusion to the book there. It ends with Deckard accepting his empathy for synthetic things, a trait that will doom the human race. Mercerism is being assaulted, because it's based on a lie, but at the same time, Mercer is manifesting to people. Androids are infiltrating and taking over earth, and are becoming bolder. Rachel is on the run, after showing enough empathy to know how to hurt Deckard deeply. John thinks he can bring animals back to life, and likely can.
exactly that is why decard was happy with the electric toad
Oh! And then there's Resch, that tested human, though he might be a modified or new android that can beat the test. It doesn't make much sense that the androids would set up their own little community, and have a human bounty hunter roaming around with them. Also, Resch may have false memories, because he remembers working with Bryant for longer than Bryant has been on Earth. Only androids can have false memories.
It hints that a human Bryant may have been replace by a synthetic Bryant, but that would mean that model was based on a living person, because Deckard has his poop sheet. It's more likely the memory is false.
This whole episode was a bit oversimplified. Just shows how all over the place the movie always has been.
+Belias Phyre How come LA has a wall separating the ocean and city?
Supreme Nigga Snoke,
I honestly have no idea about that. Is that featured heavily in the movie? I don't recall a wall between the city and ocean in the book.
It may be a reference to the idea of rising tides due to global warming, and the walls are levies, holding back the ocean from swallowing up the city. Kinda like New Orleans.
Anyways, I saw 2049 last night. Holy fuck it's good!
... Were there really two different people narrating this? I genuinely couldn't tell.
DodderingOldMan I honestly had no idea that two people were narrating
Yes, Michael Truly and Clint Gage
I only noticed because of this comment, I'm also high and playing ESO.
Exactly
Ridley Scott's 2019 Las Angeles isn't overpopulated. It's still portrayed as a city with many people, but there are hints here and there that it is very underpopulated. The main hints I can think of off the top of my head are that Deckard and Sebastian both appear to have entire apartment buildings all to themselves, and Sebastian's comment to Priss that there's no shortage of space around here.
Is that a thematic statement at all or a noteworthy plot point. What is that aspect trying to say? That people are leaving earth?
@@Gadget-Walkmen yeah to the off-world colonies, pretty much earth is a thing of the past
@@YZYGWD gotcha. Thought so, just needed confirmation which this video for some reason downplays that aspect.
There are signs that it was overpopulated but then, probably because the war and the radiation, was left alone. So it is post-overpopulated?
@@sigmundfreude4088 no it’s just underpopulated now on the current timeline of the movie!
No...no...no...no! I have read the book 3 times. The reason people have android animals is that the nuclear war has made much of animal life on earth extinct. So, it is a status symbol to own a real animal. People buy android animals to fool people into thinking they have a real animal. It really doesn't have much to do with empathy. Decard has an android sheep in the book because his real sheep died and he doesn't want anyone to know. Movie reference: that is why Zora says "do you think I would be working at a place like this if I could afford a real snake?" This may confuse people that never read the book. But, real animals are expensive because most are almost extinct.
NO, its meant to "imply" empathy to the neighbors. It may not be sincere, but the book explicitly states that having a real animal shows your peers you aren't an android and you do care about something (but you're right it was a status thing too).
Ian Smart yeah, thinking about it for a minute, its pretty messed up since I remember hearing Deckard complain to one of his neighbors about his electric goat and I could see he still had a sort of love for it
I found that snake line quite obvious
Oh! That makes way more sense, Byron. Thanks!
Guess the hustle never changes. Even after nuclear war there's a shmuck trying to make a buck.
Americans
I love how in the book you can feel both the paranoia that Dick was famous for as well as questioning Deckard's own reality. It was a really good read
The fake police department was a crazy read as it was left out of the movie
I love all the new videos about blade runner. Thanks to 2049 people are re-looking this beatiful classic. And there is an anime
2049
Thanks
And a short film.
It's actually 3 shorts, 1 just happens to be anime. And tells the story of the blackout
Vicente Ortega Rubilar I didn't know it had an anime, but I'm guessing It's like Ghost In The Shell or a depreesing version of Cowboy Bebop.
Everyone is uploading videos about Blade Runner...
*I LOVE IT*
spider man stfu comic book geek
Lockjaw is cute hahaha you're one too also u mad
Lockjaw is cute thanks LOL
Im not
And I'm just sitting here, masturbating..
Aw, you left out Buster Friendly & His Friendly Friends, maybe the most surreal running gag in the book.
I suddenly have an idea for an addition to my D&D campaign for next week.
I wonder if he’s related to Edgar Friendly of San Angeles....
Mercerism
2:17 ...it's Ramen, which is technically from China, but it's more known as Japanese, especially when the guy is speaking Japanese 「二つ十分ですよ」("two is sufficient" to Ford's request for four)
Sadly nobody care about that, I have one exemple because of my skin colore most people assume I coming from somewhere of north africa or somewhere in the indian ocean but not at all I'm born in a place in south america who's tecnichaly a part of France. So basically you look like asian, you talk a funny jiberish, you're obviously chinese.That's prejudice 101 in everyday life.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.
Thanks for the post. This is the first time anyone has ever translated what the food vendor said to Deckard.
“No spicy noodles this time I mean it!”
that was japanese? i thought it might more of that "cityspeak" language...
I don't think I expected this to be uploaded so soon after the "Things you didn't know" on Blade Runner
But then again, who does?
Coolbillion Same, I was surprised as hell
Boom, bonus thing!
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
- Edward James Olmos. ;)
AskAScreenwriter *literally inquisition
Whoa, when's the last time Michael did a voiceover on this channel? Good to see (hear?) him back
You forgot to mention that whole thing with the tv show host Buster Friendly and Wilbur Mercer
buster friendly is an android.
And that is very important for the story, because of how hard Buster and his friends try to disprove and discredit Wilbur Mercer. They don't feel empathy, and maybe they're jealous of humans or just angry that they need, or can, feel that empathy for one another, for animals, and for no reason at all.
It asks: So Mercer isn't real. But does that make his teachings any less true?
the future of 2019, oh my...
I can't even imagine such a far off future!
And the world isn't as crappy as blade runner. Yet.
MrThedorkknight We've got a lot of ground to cover in the next 5 months...
Ayy lmao
WHERE IS THE FUTUR ?
Among other things you forgot to mention kipple, Buster Friendly, & the spider scene, the latter one being pretty important to show the Android's lack of empathy.
Also, for more on Mercerism there's a short story called "The Little Black Box" that has a slightly different/more detailed version of the religion.
"A man stood before her, a sorrowful light in his gray, pain-drenched eyes. "I am your friend," he said, "but you must go on as if I did not exist. Can you understand that?" He spread empty hands.
"No," she said, "I can't understand that."
"How can I save you," the man said, "if I can't save myself?" He smiled: "Don't you see? There is no salvation."
"Then what's it all for?" she asked.
"To show you," Wilbur Mercer said, "that you aren't alone. I am here with you and always will be. Go back and face them. And tell them that.""
ALL THESE BLADE RUNNER VIDEOS MAKE ME HAPPY
Extra trivia bit: The William S. Burroughs book Blade Runner: A Movie began as a story treatment for an adaptation of an earlier science fiction book called The Bladerunner by Alan E. Nourse.
I'd like to see a what's the difference between 'Who Goes There?' and the 1982 The Thing. I'm sure it would be interesting.
idin: Already tackled. :D
of the three The Thing movies, John Carpenter's is the truest to the book
Clint and Michael sound exactly alike.
I swear to God, I thought they were the same person and that Michael just changed his name to Clint.
I literally went the whole video thinking it was one guy being funny.
Is one of them a replicant?
What's the difference?
At least they're better to listen to than the woman they had for a couple of episodes.
Also the androids in the book are only about as smart and athletic as a normal human. Despite making lot's of mistakes Deckard doesn't have much difficulty retiring them. In the movie they are genius level super soldiers, that toss him around like a rag doll.
There is also a very significant scene in the book where Jon Isador sees the Androids torturing a spider and realizes that despite their similarities, Androids can never really be human.
Roy in the book is not as frightening as the one from movie. For an instance, book Roy was a pharmacist in Mars, while movie Roy was a war android. Book Roy wanted to hide himself along his wife, movie Roy wanted a longer life for him and his comrades. Book Roy only appears at the end, movie Roy is the head of the operation from the beginning. Book Roy was easily killed and barely met Deckard, movie Roy was a depretator in his last encounter with Deckard and gave one of the best monologue in sci/fi history before passing away.
Y’all should read the book it’s interesting how the androids are actually kind of dumb and limited by the fact they aren’t human. It’s a cool story and reads FAST.
You forgot about how the Andies found out how that whole Mercerism deal was recored on a sound stage and even found the actor that plays Mercer (I forget if they found him on Mars or Earth). This one bit adds so much to the idea of Mercerism thematically! (I haven't read the book in years so I might be misspelling Mercerism)
I was looking forward to this
Also.... YAY! It's the older (better) format for what's the difference
I hated that bitches voice
HAL 9000 idk. It was not that really. Just the format they chose killed the series for me
Vishal Goradia i liked that format
What was different about the old format?
Naa... for a couple episodes they tried a new format which was absolutely bizarre. This video is more in keeping with the older (better) format
Very well done.
I would have liked have had more said about the differences in the main character Decker from book to movie.
But you nailed the rest of it dead on.
I'm so glad 2049 turned out to be a worthy sequel. It's so rare these days to see a reboot/sequel actually expand upon the original in a meaningful way, rather than just dish out a bunch of throwbacks and half assed references and laugh all the way to the bank.
Deckard: You're reading a magazine. You come across a full-page nude photo of a girl.
Rachael: Is this testing whether I'm a replicant or a lesbian, Mr. Deckard?
Deckard: I have had people walk out on me before, but not... when I was being so charming.
Not sure how I haven't found this channel sooner. This was really well put together! I'm a fan of both the movie and the book.
"Los Angeles in 2019"
Gosh darn it wish we had flying cars
Robo Po-Po is the best thing I've seen all day :)
I just scrolled thru the comments to find this exact comment. I literally laughed out loud - Robo Po-Po - love it.
I love being an android. It is everything I was programed to dream it would be.
This is one of the few times that I have read the book and seen the movie, but I will say that this was a really thorough analysis for under 13 minutes. Loved it!
Michael's back? Awesome!! Great to have one of the original (and incomparable) voices of the show back.
Also, great episode guys. Can't wait to see what else you tackle
Blade Runner is my favorite movie of all time and I'm glad to see people are uploading videos about it.
I love that they make L.A look all dark, cold, and rainy. It's a great way to show that this is not the L.A we're familiar with.
Wait, Clint Gage and Michael Trooley in the same episode? I... I can't tell them apart... THEY'RE MULTIPLYING!
Theyre nexus6 so duh
Dude I love your analyses! And your way of presenting them. Keep it up it's very interesting and entertaining, and your sarcasm is perfectly hilarious!
Thanks for the video. Read this book a while back after having finished A Scanner Darkly (speaking of an idea for what's the difference...). Philip K. Dick became one of my favorite writers after these two books.
I love Philip K. Dick and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep is definitely one of my favorite books of his. Blade Runner is a great film too, but much like my feelings between the V for Vendetta book and movie, they're really both better taken separately.
The message behind them is completely shifted by the changes made during adaptation, which is not a bad thing! It just means that, though both movies were inspired by the books, they're different stories.
What I'd like to know is how a blade runner ends up becoming commander of a Battlestar in the war against the Cylons... weird.
Mike Gonzalez Frakking replicants!
So say we all
It's incredibly different--I would LOVE to see a film that was an absolutely faithful adaptation of the book. It would LOOK entirely differnent to Blade Runner and would feature many of the best ideas from "Androids..." that were left out. Like Mercerism, the Mood Organ, the police precinct staffed by replicants where he takes the opera singer and obviously the whole electric sheep aspect, with real animals as status symbols...like you say, empathy is a key...so much subtext to the book. Dick had a thing for shared "telepathic" experiences (the Perky Pat experiments and layouts from, uhm, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch); this would all be sooo dope on screen.
great video, subbed, thanks!
I don't know if the story would work 1:1 on screen. There is much inner dialogue which is always difficult to transfer. I remeber that the first blade runner film version had a voice over which was removed after heavy critisism.
@@sigmundfreude4088 Oh, yeah, I've seen the theatrical cut with the voice-over. I don't HATE it--Scott was maybe going for that kind of film noir, private eye, inner-monologue thing--but the director's cut is much more satisfying. And, iirc, the ending is different in the former.
I knew this would come. Btw, could we get a little more Art of the scene, please?
This really shows how, many times, the original Novels can be far more Deeper than the movies that try to portray them, Dune is another Sci-Fi movie where the novels are so much more than any movie that tried to portray it.
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The scene of the Andys ripping off the legs of the spider just to see what would happen killed my empathy for them
Just finished the book. I absolutely agree. I prefer the movie for this reason
small nitpick, but pretty sure he's getting Japanese food at the beginning of the movie, not Chinese. The guy is speaking Japanese, and is telling him 2 is plenty when he's asking for 4. :P I'm so stoked for 2049 though, love seeing all the Blade Runner videos being uploaded
yeah, but Chinese restaurants are always owned by Japanese people, and Japanese restaurants always owned by Chinese people.
Except for those times with those filthy Thai or Koreans try to pass their slop off as Chinese or Japanese.
Mr. Bastos: Very true! This also explains why he speaks in Engrish (as far as I can tell, this only appears in the US theatrical cut; the 2007 Final Cut and potentially other versions exclude this).
I thought so too. In the narrated version Decker says "sushi. Cold fish. That's what my ex wife used to call me." We could not pick that apart cuz he was thinking of sashimi. Haha.
+ZanathKariashi
don't be silly, Thais and Koreans do have their own unique distinctive cultural food which is different from Japanese and Chinese ... you're trying to be culturally arrogant wanting to label all other countries's cuisines as a "bastardising" of chinese and japanese food, and labelling them as filthy shows how much of an ill-mannered uncultured snob you are.
I'm surprised you didn't compare Gaff to Phil Resch. Also, not that it really matters, but Deckard finds out about Rachael killing his goat before he has the vision about being Mercer and finding the toad.
10:39 My god, you just brought together the most iconic robotic characters of all time, god bless you Cinefix😔😪
Well, one is a cyborg not a robot, but still iconic 🤣
@@ridgesail And still robotic
-What is my purpose
-Pass the butter
-Oh my god
-Yeah, welcome to the club pal.
David Peoples and Hampton Francher boiled down the essence of "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" into cinematic elements. "Blade Runner", to me, is a compendium to the novel.
The plot where they expose "Mercerisim" (or "kill god", so to speak) is reduced to Roy literally killing his god (his creator/father/fucker) The paranoia that Dick's novels are ripe with is almost gone...but I'm okay with that.
Wow. What an over simplification. The only thing that the movie "Loses" is the Paranoia, yes. But atleast it traded it for far better characters then in the book.
Clint and Truly the dynamic duo of Cinefix reunited and it feels so freakin good. I might've gotten just a bit too excited when i heard Truly's voice but thats not a real problem.
yay!! Michael truly is back!!! Now all we need is Casey and this series will be back to its original brilliance :)
“Los angeles in 2019” huh,sadly we only got ground cars.
No one seems to clue in to the importance of eyes in the movie. The book doesn’t say anything about eyes. But if you check out E.T.A. Hoffman’s novelette The Sandman which appears on the stage as Tales of Hoffman, you’ll see that there is a beautiful automaton which has “beautiful eyes.” And the theme of eyes carries over into BR2049.
I wish there was a game based on the book, it would be epic.
As much as I love Blade Runner, nowadays with Blade Runner I always start thinking of The Venture Bros. reference where Hank just mentions it offhand warning his father about Venturestein maybe killing Dr. Venture. something like if Venturestein is wearing bicycle shorts and starts talking about tears in rain he's deadly.
You should do the movie vs book version of Shutter Island! They're actually shockingly similar, but one is basically how it was and the other about how he perceives the world around him in his insanity.
You guys should do Stand By Me/The Body! It's an amazing movie and even more amazing book!
"minding his own business and grabbing some chinese food in the rain."
man, i really like this spanish food called pizza.lol
2:15 "grabbing some Chinese in the rain"
>Japanese man responds in Japanese
Ryan Gosling won't need the Voight-Kampff test. His eyes are too close together to be a replicant.
Great video, thanks! Love the use of the Futurama Planet Express ship
It also inspired the song Are Friends Electric by Gary Numan and Tubeway Army in 1979. Great song check it out if you aren't familiar with it. It was way ahead of its time.
Truly! Nice to hear your voice again!
YES thank you! I read this recently but haven't seen the film in years so I was hoping you would do it!
"But then again, who does?"
Oooooooo
🦄😰💔
I feel like they should have set the film in San Francisco like the book. November 2019 here was dystopian and everybody was obsessed with synthwave, which basically sounds like the score.
Awesome 🔥
is michael truly truly back to cinefix?
Truly!
Outrageous!
RIP Rutger Hauer.
Love your WTD's man,they're great! Hey,do you think you could do an anime/novel comparison like say Vampire Hunter D or Wind named Amnesia? I've read and seen both of those and they imo would make great Wtd features.
Great job as always
Yay Micheal's back!!! Also, you and Clint sound exactly the same.
I can't get enough of this movie
I've read the book and just watched the movie. And I have to say as confusing as it is, there is no other experience like reading the book and watching the movie. They are hard to understand because they're both meant to be thoroughly thought about. You step in to the stories and stepping out is weird.
Focusing on the theme of empathy gives the best evidence for why Deckard is a human, as the screenplay writer originally intended. If he were a replicant, the entire story would be one about... replicants learning empathy for other replicants? And why would humans program a replicant who had to be convinced or bullied to do his job? Why wouldn't they just program him to happily be a bladerunner? So, that whole idea is just Ridley Scott wanting to be cooler than he was after the movie was made.
Eeeee. New video! Thanks! Great job
excellent movie and excellent commentary.
That is one of the key things that make the movie so great - the script is so sparse that every sentence has meaning and you can remember them.
Like "Have you ever tried the [Voight-Kampff] machine on yourself...Deckard?"
or "Painful isn't it, being a slave?"
There is not a single word wasted in the movie.
Also what stands out is that humanity through the Tyrell corporation has created slaves, artificial people who have implanted memories of a past that existed for someone else who are given one single (dreadful) purpose and have the ultimate chains upon them - they only live four years. So those artificial people have no time to love, reproduce or even be remembered. They live in constant fear that each day will be their last. So they break the law and come to Earth to find their creator to give them a longer life.
For me, the film is much better than the book. I wonder if Philip K Dick thought so too.
I LOL'd at that Mars license tag!
YES! Truly is back!
Hey!! Welcome back, Michael Truly!
Ever since reading Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? shortly after watching the Final Cut, I'd always described the two as completely different animals.
About time!
That was quick.
(You guys are the best)
This Video helped me do my HW for my film Class
Do John Dies at he End next! I love both the book and the film. I think it would be really interesting
Love to see series based on the book!
For Halloween this year, you guys should do either Dracula or Frankenstein.
I can't wait for your review of Blade Runner 2049!
i saw it last week.
I read the graphic novel and it is excellent. Lots of reading but it’s almost word for word of the novel. Very good, especially for those visual learners.
Michael Truly...as in the same Michael Truly from Tasted??? Loved that guy, good to see him still doin youtube
i'm so glad i chose to do this as an assignment i actually don't have to do any work now,
thanks
Awesome video
It's nice to see.. I mean hear, Truly again.
FINALLY I REQUESTED THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO AHH