2023 GR Corolla - Long Term Ownership Review...Keeping or Selling?
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- Long term update on the GR Corolla! How I really feel about the car after spending a lot more time with it, plus some future plans with the car.
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Got almost 8k miles on mine and love it! Makes a great daily, i get anywhere between 26-29 mpgs with a rooftop carrier lol. Its also such a fun car when you want it to be
Man I just got my ‘20 SE Corolla 6MT and this is what I’m looking at for a potential upgrade. Love to hear you’ve been having a great time.
I was caught off guard when you said 300 to a tank, because to be honest I get 100 miles more but at times I barely get in the mid-300’s.
This would most likely be the daily and I pair it up with a V8, then have a truck/SUV for towing. Definitely want to experience AWD someday. Thanks for sharing this video and your thoughts!
Glad you enjoyed the video! Yea, I can creep the 300’s when I am very mindful of how I drive lol. This is still a 3-cyl engine and if you keep out of boost it will really do great for commuting MPG’s.
Yea, ideally I was going to keep my Supra and have this be my fun AWD daily. Thinking to add something next to the GRC someday soon that’s gets way less MPG’s lol.
This would be an awesome AWD car for you to get into. If the STI’s were still around, I’d put the two together for options, but as it stands this GRC is brilliant.
GR Core here. I honestly think these cars are amazing. Even the Core model was a big step over my 2020 Corolla Hatchback. I don’t have all of the extra aesthetics, but for what I have it’s great. It definitely comes down to the driving experience, and I haven’t even done any mods yet. 😊
Agreed! This car really takes me back to when I had a 2013 STI. I loved that car, and it felt raw and just overall fun, with minimal frills here and there in the cabin. So glad to hear more and more owners loving these cars and actually keeping them!
loved this review. wish you channel got more recognition!
Thank you so much for your kind words! This means a lot!! Glad you enjoyed the video!
it was great! very in depth. Me and my dad have always wanted a hot hatch, this def motivates me to save for one when im out of college!@@NEMotoGuy
Great video! I'm probably buying one in the next couple weeks! putting down a deposit asap
Thank you! Awesome to hear! I feel like its the best time now to get into these as the markups have pretty much died down and rates in general are getting better too. Hope you enjoy it!
Good video, glad you live somewhere that shows the better side of the car
everything you say is true, i have mine over a year with over 10k miles, I even took it to a 3k miles road trip, was getting over 33mpg on high way
Love to hear it! Yea, I am planning on going on a couple rallies this year and really put some miles on the car! I love this car!
I have a GR86 and love driving it. But i really wanna upgrade to this. Seems like a much better daily car. And wouldn't mind the extra power either.
Thanks for the great reviews. I’m binging your videos while waiting for my GRC allocation to come in. I currently have a GR86, but want something closer to my old 2011 WRX hatchback. This car seems perfect!
How’s the road noise at highway speeds? The 86 is so loud.
Glad you are enjoying the videos and thank you for the support!
Honestly when I had my Supra, which was one of my favorite cars i've owned, I kept missing my 2013 and 2017 STI. Those were so much fun and a bit more raw than the Supra. Not to mention I really enjoy the AWD/turbo/hatch/rally combo in cars. So the GRC definitely ticked every box I was looking for.
Road noise is there on the highway. It will also vary depending on the tire you choose to ride on. Between 60-80mph its really not bad though. Wind noise can be a little noticeable, but either I am just used to it from my previous cars or it's not that bad, it's not bad. I can definitely hold a conversation while keeping my voice levels low. I'd say it's definitely better than the 2011-2014 WRX/STI's for sure.
Got mine two weeks ago (also NE based). What a fucking blast lol. I have been grocery shopping almost every single day so I have an excuse to drive, and the fridge is officially too full.
Haha love to hear it! It’s one of the few cars I’ve owned that I drive for an hour, come home, and immediately want to drive it again.
You’re right about how well it does in the snow, I’m running the Nokian Hakka R5’s and love it. Those are my go to for winter driving…not sure what I’ll do for summer tires when we upgrade our rims 🤔 not too much time left to decide on all that if I want to get the most out of the looks of summer.
Agreed, I still have my oem tires, but when my new summer wheels arrive in a couple months, I have already planned on going with PS4S tires. I ran those on my Supra and they are just excellent summer tires that can handle some cold weather and rain.
@@NEMotoGuy thanks for the info, I’ll look into those tires. I don’t need anything that’s track specific but just want a good all-around summer tire. It’s been a while since I’ve needed performance summer tires so I’ve got some catching up to do.
Got a GR but noticed how much I like old Honda’s with V Tec and plan on trading for one of those or maybe a Type R. These new cars will be around for awhile but the old ones won’t.
Nothing like those K series 🤟🏼get one while you can
Yea, I love a good Honda. Definitely enjoyed my FA5 back in the day. The GRC and Hondas are definitely very different cars in my opinion. Sorry to hear the GRC didn't work out for you.
just about to 21k km(13k miles) on my 23 core. going to a 24 circuit this week and absolutly loving the platform
Oh nice congrats! Any reason why you're moving from a core to a CE?
I’m a tall dude and agree with you on the seat. My head hits the ceiling if I don’t set the seat up with some gangster lean. Please make a video if you find a decent way to lower it!
Definitely working on it! I was going to order the GRY lowering kit, but I heard it really doesn't "plug and play" easy on the GRC's. I'm trying to reach out to a few companies who work on the GRC to see if they are interested in getting some legit quality lowering brackets. I want to keep the OEM airbag and heated seat function, otherwise I'd order a set of nice recaro seats.
As a ‘22 HB XSE owner, I feel like this CE is my only worthy upgrade (I really hate that button handbrake) , I’m just holding on to it for now till I score a good deal on a used ‘23 CE for under 45k (original msrp). Thanks for reassuring me “THIS IS still THE WAY” 👊🏽
Heck yea! You will definitely love the CE coming from an XSE. The car is definitely worth it without a markup for sure. Almost a year later and I am still loving this car with all the smiles and all. Honestly can't decide if I like the GRC or my Supra more now lol.
Good video. I had a 2021 Corolla XSE 6 speed. I loved it. Great chassis, almost as good as German chassis’s, almost. Just not enough power. Anyway, the GR Corolla had not come out yet. I’m in a 2023 Golf GTI 6 speed 40th anniversary for now. It is a great ride. The Corolla GR is on my short list. I’d most likely go with it over the Golf R or Civic Type R. It is a Toyota after all.
Thanks for the support! Honestly the GRC feels much more planted down over the XSE, as expected. The only thing to point out for you coming from a new VW GTI to a GRC, even a CE would be the interior "premium" look/feel. Not sure if that will be an issue for you, but especially compared to the MK8 GTI or Golf R the GRC CE can't compare. I personally love the CE interior trim. Just the right amount of sportiness and creature comforts for a car like this. And to your last point knock on wood, almost a year and no issues with the car, aside from a rattle here and there.
Thankyou for the review. Did you have to pay over msrp?
Glad you enjoyed the video! I did not pay over MSRP. I actually paid $1K under MSRP. Toyota gave me an incentive for purchasing another Toyota after my Supra a few years ago.
After 9 months how are the driver seat holding up? Really talking about the left thigh area. Just got a 2024 Circuit edition. So thinking about Seat covers but don't want too.lol
Coming up on one year now, and the seats are mint. I make sure to enter and exit the vehicle carefully. Try to avoid just sliding in and putting wear on the side bolstering. I also don't track like crazy so not putting to much strain on the bolstering. Overall the seats look/feel like brand new still.
I’ve been watching reviews of this for a while now. Looking at possible options for a new car. I really want to drive this thing but I have never driven stick before. In games and sims yes, but irl never. Think I can very easily catch on though.
If it's possible to find one at a dealership to test drive, I highly recommend it. However, even if this would be your first MT vehicle to learn on, it is honestly very easy. Clutch and gearing is pretty easy to get used to and daily drive in traffic, etc. Not to mention it is very fun and rewarding when driving properly. The iMT is also very useful if you are not used to rev match downshifts.
I think the interior is a non issue. The car reminds me of the way VW made cars back in the 80’s … super basic and all focus on the drive. People getting hung up on interior just have it wrong. It’s a fast hatchback and not trying to be anything else. I own a FL5 and would buy the GR in addition too 100%.
Hey man, I just picked up a 24 Premium! How much is the exhaust? Is it much louder with the valves open while casually driving?
Congrats on the car!! The stock system when the valve opens up while driving at higher rpm/throttle input it is a tad bit louder, but nothing insanely noticeable imo. The FI Exhaust system I have on the car however, is MUCH louder when the valve is open. It sounds good, but the interior can vibrate slightly when on full throttle.
How’s clutch pressure and angle is it stiff or soft and does pedal angle allow heel to stay on floor or is it more upward to where you have to fully lift foot from pedal to pedal when shifting is shifter light or does it wiggle sorry for all the questions
Clutch pressure is pretty good tbh. It's not too stiff, and definitely not soft like the Type R or Type S. You can rest your heel on the floor, that is definitely not an issue. Shifter is nice and crisp. It is medium in heft feeling. No wiggle at all, it is a sharp, precise shifter and the throws are not too long and are smooth.
Been thinking about getting one since Subaru won't a new STI.
Tho the VBs are making big power easier.
Probably gonna wait for the refresh after seeing the GRY improvements.
Might even go with the new Auto, as blasphemous as that sounds.
Yea, I was in the same boat. Long time WRX/STI guy here, had put a deposit on the new gen STI with my repeat dealer. They didn't even know it was getting canceled until a random last minute mass email was sent to dealers...sad.
Yea the new VB's are great. If the TR version was available from day one, I would have put the two cars together for options. I still think the GRC is more of an EVO/STI class competitor than the 22+ WRX.
Yea, i'd say probably the 25/26 year will have a bigger refresh if anything, but I doubt it will be too massive. And in my 30's anyone who says its MT or nothing can get over themselves lol. I was all about the MT for awhile. After getting my S4 and then the GR Supra...a really good auto is amazing, and doesn't make me miss MT much tbh.
I legit told my wife, if the new GRY with the refresh and auto came to the US, I would legit buy one and daily that and keep the GRC for a fun MT toy.
@@NEMotoGuy Yea I ended with the 22 BRZ with the manual. It's a lot of fun, but a little small for our needs. Specially since I'm the only driver. Also not quite as great for highway trips.
The TR is definitely on my radar. I wish Subaru would of given it the STI trans and DCCD setup.
Or at the very least mechanical front and rear LSDs. I'll have to test one to see if they did the trick with the suspension and steering.
Yea I'm thinking it's probably mostly going be small things besides the interior and front bumper. Looks the GR bolt kns might come stock.Yea Manuals are great on open back roads, but once you hit traffic or the interstate meh.
As long as it isn't a slush box or CVT I'll take auto
What blowoff do you use??amazing sound
No BOV, just the stock BPV and the MST intake. It’s loud right?! The flutter sounds insane in person! I love it!
Hi Guys, new owner of a 24 Premium. Just picked up the car last week. Overall love the car! But 1 question, Have you guys experienced burning smell?
Hey welcome to the GRC family! Yes, it is completely normal during break in with manual transmission cars. It's just the clutch breaking in and burning off all the oils, etc. The engine is also still breaking in, so nothing to worry about. It should go away within the first 1,000 miles or so.
I didn't end up with the circuit edition I hated the fact it has a rod in the back seats, but I love the hood. I got the premium edition with the good upgrades happy with it. I don't see these cars all that much, so i'm happy. Question when you shift from 1st to 2nd it makes a loader sound like hitting something, I spoke with a dealer and they said it was fine, does it do the same to you?
Can you clarify in the rod in the back seats? I don’t see any rod or bar in mine? The Morizo has more stiffening in the hatch area, but the CE is open in the rear.
Congrats on the premium! Definitely a great choice.
How hard are you shifting into second from first gear? When I first start the car and go from first to second I hear a slight thunk, very minimal, and after that it never happens. I believe that is normal upon first start/drive.
@@NEMotoGuy I saw a rod or bar that goes across when I put the back seats down, but it might've been an extra?
Thanks brother this car is so fun 😊!
I normally don't like to shift that hard when I drive in like to enjoy it, but it's been a few years that I've driven a shift so. I do her a thunk more so when I'm on a red light and idle for a bit then it does it after second or third I don't hear anything, at least I'm glad that it isn't just me that hears it. Keep up the great work!
@@AlexRubiothat’s the Morizo
That kinda sounds like engine movement from a weak rear engine mount. That would be my first guess.
@@ianashmore9910 It's possible. I know the factory engine mount is soft-ish. Few people have been swapping out to a stronger billet mount. Only issue with that is tons more NVH/rattling in the cabin.
I got a 23 camry xse v6. Ive been thinking about trading it in. Even though ill eat some on the trade.
The camry uses space terribly and im wanting a car I can drive.
Set on the GRC. Im just concered ill not like.
Itll be the first manual car ive owned... my home is teaching me on his rabbit edition gti and im loving the involvment.
If you can, I highly recommend sitting in a GR and potentially test driving if possible. It is VERY different from the Camry as far as ride quality and comfort. It also depends on which trim GRC you are planning on getting. If you grab a CE or even Premium it may be an easier transition. As far as the manual transmission is concerned, the GRC is pretty easy to learn and drive. The clutch is easy and the gearbox is excellent. It also comes with iMT that does auto blipping to help you rev match downshift much easier. It is helpful when learning how to drive too.
do they come with actual wing yet? I keep seeing Morizos and Circuits with no wings.
They removed them had something to do with aerodynamics
Really? My CE came with a wing from day one. I know the Morizo and Core trims do not come with a larger spoiler.
I got 7000 on my 24 GRC Premium. Im the guy whos doing 10,000 miles a month split between the GRC and FL5
Sheeesh. Putting me to shame lol. I’m about to hit one year and 3800 miles lol
Wow. Your getting 300 miles on a tank? I have an 2022 XSE manual and could barely get 300 mixed driving. But I’ve also gotten 400 miles all highway.
Yea, this car is pretty amazing. It's a potent three cylinder, but at the same time it's a three cylinder lol. Driving like a grandpa can make this car get some really good MPG's. Have to make sure there is a balance to get good MPG's. Redlining a lot during drives will definitely bring this down probably closer to 220-250 miles per tank, which is still pretty good tbh.
I own a GR Corolla Circuit Edition 🇨🇦 and I’m surprised nobody talks about how annoying it is that when you open up any of the doors or rear hatch that water or snow drips into the interior no matter what you do 😂. Overall, we love the vehicle, but there are obviously always going to be a little quirks here and there with any vehicle but that’s what makes it unique.
Interesting. I never noticed this, and I live in MA where it rains and snows every other day lol. I will need to keep an eye out next time.
@@NEMotoGuy sorry if you start noticing now 😂. I guess because the top of the car is quite a bit narrower than the base of the car this is a byproduct of making it look cool ha ha. When you open the front doors it’ll drip on to the dash near the vent or on the seat. The rear hatch will also drip and either fill up the sill area or drip in to the cargo area.
My wife is using the 2016 4Runner for commuting so we can keep the winter km’s (mileage) low and less salt exposure so I have to bring my 4 year old to his activities a couple times a week in the GRC. I’m also that type of guy where if something drips on the interior it has to be cleaned right away and we have an emergency bird poop cleaning kit in the car also 😂.
@@kore996 haha no worries. I am just like you though. If I do notice any stain, wet spot, dust, I have to clean it up right away. I have swifer sheets in my glove box to keep all screens clean at all times lol.
I have driven the car in snow, with right tires, and it is tons of fun. But the salt exposure is awful. I had to wash the full car and undercarriage twice in two weeks here to clear away any salt. It is what it is I guess lol.
How stiff is the clutch? Is it light enough for stop and go every day driving?
Really not bad at all. It’s fairly light. If you’ve driven a civic si/type r it’s stiffer than those. I have been daily driving mine. It’s not bad. It’s more of the annoyance of driving MT in heavy traffic that would be the issue. So far I really haven’t been stuck in bumper to bumper to notice if the clutch use gets annoying.
When is someone gonna make an Evo comparison video
As soon as I can get my hands on my buddy’s Evo X, I will! Honestly I’d love to make an STI/Evo/GRC compare video, but Evo’s in good shape and not super modded are hard to come by. But, yea evos are definitely strong competition.
Oh man, THIS!!!
The evo is way better than this grc. Who tf wants a 3cylinder already pushing 30psi from factory?!
@@commentmancommentman1658 Someone’s clearly an angry hater lol. Everyone wants this incredible 3-cyl buddy just look at the sales around the world on the GRY and GRC. Go enjoy your Evo since you’re an obvious fanboi. That’s fine, to each their own. Not to mention, the Evo has been discontinued for years. The only Evo’s left are beat and abused.
@NEMotoGuy im sorry but in my area i see alot of elantra N, wrx, golf r. I've seen probably like 6 fl5's and guess what ive only seen 2 grc in the wild. Im not hating but i knew some people in meets you need to do valve springs and wmi to go past 320whp and not to mention push the turbo more while its already pushing at the limit from factory. Im sorry but the grc is a great car if they put 4banger in there. Again who wants a 3cylinder and a turbo pushing 30psi from factory?🤣🤣🤣
I wish they use this engine in the gr86
Agreed. Although I thought I did hear rumors of this potentially happening? I know Toyota is definitely developing a sports coupe right now with the G16E-GTS engine. Either the MR2 or something like the GR8...fingers crossed.
It would be hard to sell the Corolla if they did that 😂
@@SarcasticComments23 You get an AWD hatch with the Corolla though. Very different cars. In New England i'd take the GRC if I could only get one car.
@@SarcasticComments23Nah. Different cars for different folks.
The car it make would obsolete would be the Supra 2.0, which is already a hard sell when you can just buy a 230I instead.
I have a 2024 Premium and while I love it, there are a few things I really wish Toyota included over the Core.
I think the Premium should have the full interior of the Circuit (but with the white stitching it already has). Putting in the better seats is great, but the door cards from the Core are just so cheap. The better door cards + illuminated door switches + little trim piece in front of the shifter would have been perfect the Premium.
I think the Circuit coming with the hood, spoiler, CF roof, and nicer forged wheels is enough of a difference that they could have thrown Premium owners the small bone of the complete "nice" interior.
I know I can order the white-trim pieces from an XSE hatchback myself to upgrade, but the door cards are like $600 a piece, and the small trim piece is $75, and the illuminated switches are like $275 which is crazy.
Grc is a nice car, but the price point is kind of steep for what you get... Almost bought a black one for under msrp 2k off but decided not to buy 2024 and waiting to see the automatic version instead. Pretty hype to see the yaris get the new DAT, so figure why not on the grc
Yea, it's really tough with these priced at mid 40K for a circuit edition. While the performance is great, and the "creature comforts" at least in the CE are decent. It's still a hard pill to swallow. If I didn't get mine at MSRP at the least, snagged it for $1K under a year ago, then it was a no go for me. I just don't think they are worth anything over sticker.
I was following the GRY refresh and that auto does sound great. I would love an auto for a daily tbh. While the MT is great and easy to drive, I can still appreciate a quality auto for driving comfort.
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Bruh some idiots in the comments here. Who cares about interior on a Corolla? Not me. If you want a fancy interior and power get an M2 or a Golf R. This car is about taking an eco hatch and turning the internals into an AWD monster. That’s all it is. Maybe that ain’t for you. Cool go buy something else.
Dude, "driven hard at times" yeah when I get a GR Corolla, it's gonna get driven hard AF at times on my back country gravel roads and curvy highways here in the Appalachian Foothills. Enjoy life bro, we are all just passing through 🤘
Just needs manual steering and manual brakes.
Uhhh you need to tune for the intake
You do not need a tune for this intake. Been running it on the car for months and thousands of miles without a single issue or CEL, and car has been running great. A tune is always more efficient and helpful, but not necessarily needed.
The Corolla hatch had a poverty spec interior from the start
Smallest model they have
But bigger than a Yaris
Correct, smallest in the US at least.
2900 miles in 9 month's, did you buy it to look at, or to say look what I got, or something else? You sure in hell did not buy it to enjoy driving it.
Tell me you didn’t watch the video without telling me lol. Definitely do sound like a grumpy and jealous old man.
@@NEMotoGuy Not jealous maybe grumpy at times. I buy cars to drive and enjoy not to leave them parked. I have my sports/fun car, a 2011 Miata that gets driven April thru November then put up for the winter. in the 12 years I have had it I put 173000 on the odometer driving it 8 months out of the year.
Look I completely hear you. Trust me I drive my cars. It’s just the unique position I’m in. I WFH, so a lot less miles are put on the car. Plus we have my wife’s car that we usually end up putting the miles on. I can assure you the car is being driven and will get a ton more miles this year. Planning on attending a couple rallies too.
I picked up my Core on Jan 18 with 5 miles on the odometer. I just hit the 3000 mile mark a few days ago.
@@shaolinwarrior87 Nice! Putting me to shame haha. Going to be a year in May for me, and I just hit 4K miles. Waiting for this weather to clear and work to slow down so I can really take the car for longer drives and push it some more.
2900 in 9 months bro?
lol I know. I have another car, plus WFH. 3K miles is enough to know the car though, and really get a feel for it. Trust me, it will get driven way more this year. Planning on going on some rallies this year too.
Can you actually hear the flutter from the outside
Oh yes you can. It's very loud from in and outside of the cabin. There are many times when I drive by people walking on the side walk and they hear the loud flutter and break their necks looking at the car lol.
Of course the Type R and Golf R are better but if you can’t find those cars, this isn’t a bad alternative
Yeah completely agree, the GR does good enough
It really depends on what you're looking for. The Type R isn't AWD, so for me that's not even competition in this segment. Not to mention I really don't think they are hatchbacks, but more liftbacks, but that's just my opinion lol. No hate on the Type R, I love those cars. I still stand by my statement that Honda six speeds are legit the best in the world too. Golf R is definitely more premium, and faster, etc. But I feel like the GRC is that raw rally car feel. Also, the pricing difference between the Golf R and GRC is huge now too, even excluding mark ups.
Type r is a mid size boat. No thx.
@@MouseCIick jokes on you it’s 100lbs lighter than the GR 😁👍🏼
GR feels lighter because it’s awd and a smaller car. Neither of those cars are better than the GR
That is not long term but okay.
Who's gonna tell him about engine braking
lol I know how to engine brake. I also know that replacing brakes are cheaper and easier than replacing a clutch and transmission.
tututu sound ....almost is never good.
The car always made that sound. OEM it made all kinds of turbo sounds and fluttering. Without the sound deadening box you just hear more of it. In this case the sutututu sound is totally fine. It’s just a resurge of the turbo air pressure being released from the turbo itself.
40-50k for shit box 3cyl that over heats backroading. No thanks
Someone seems mad and misinformed. Cars never overheated once. World’s most powerful and reliable 3-cyl…but keep hating 👍🏼
Hyundai Elantra Kimchee diarrhea
No matter which way you spin it spending 40k on a Corolla is stupid. The quality of the interior is WAAAAY to cheap to justify that price tag. That car shouldn’t be more than 32k because at the end of the day it is still a Corolla.
Welcome to the car market of 2023/2024. Prices are what they are today. $40K for a CE is just right in todays market. You can call it a Corolla all you want, but its just a Corolla by name only. You are clearly paying for the massive amount of performance in the car. This goes for WRX/STIs of the day, and Evos, and even the Golf R. They are all imprezas, lancers, and golfs. But its the underlying heavy performance that is the cause for the higher pricing. If this was 15 years ago, then a $30-$33K price tag for these would make perfect sense.
The way I look at it is that Toyota took the regular Corolla, and dumped money into only the drivetrain (complete swap) and driver tools (seat, wheel, gauge cluster). If you think “it’s just a corolla” then you value interior much more than the target market of this car. That’s totally okay, nothing wrong with that at all. You could go with the Mazda 3 hatch, or if you care more about performance, the golf R!
I’m just a Toyota fanboy who’s pined for the GRY to come here, and this is the closest I’ve got!
You clearly have no clue on today’s car market. Go back to your Subaru
The GR Corolla premium does not have a cheap interior.
And this car is 100% worth the money. Anyone who thinks otherwise has not shopped for cars recently.
40k does not buy you what you think it does at all.