@@leobastian_ i once stole the deathrattle minion from maly rogue, and i had malygos in hand, then just vele double mind blast, weird his win condition was harder for him than for me
Consider this: Not even even shaman is NOT the deck with the lowest winrate, when I guarantee that a large percentage of people who started a game with it instantly conceded to fix their deck when Genn didn't trigger. That means that a substantial percentage of people who did not do that managed to win anyway. Basically Shaman OP.
For those who are wondering if you were to get both flame tongue in hand, would the effects take hold on your hero power, the answer is no. Hearthstone reads your deck before you draw cards and THEN changes the hero power. The animation of drawing cards comes first but interaction comes first. How did I know? Because I tried making Even Quest Paladin. Since all the buffs were even and a lot of buff synergy cards were even, and you always draw the quest, seemed pretty good. Didn't change the hero power.
You're not kidding. I'm sitting around rank 9 rn and I would love to run into these players, it's absolutely mind boggling how fucking terrible they are. they actually play like rank 30.
@@baller7387 they didn't even misplay that badly other than the rogue's first evasion and the priest's psychic scream. You probably do run into players like these and probably are one yourself, so why be so judgmental.
@@Starcanum- Lol, I don't think you're in any position to say anyone is bad if you think the only misplays committed were the rogues first evasion and priest's scream. Right off the bat rogue completely wastes necrium on a 2/2 WHEN HE HAD BACKStAB IN HIS HAND. As for priest, the first misplay (as toast literally points out) is not healing bear from 1 health when he could easily have been punished for it. Next priest uses divine spirit on oakheart for tempo when he could (and should) have saved it for combo on mogushan enforcer. Hence toast immediately saying he's trash, lol. Next he plays northshire cleric to literally no effect, presumably just to spare himself 6 damage to face from genn when he literally has hysteria in his hand for removal and he's at full health (bad play). that you apparently didn't notice any of that indicates to me that you're not a very good player.
Quests take your starting deck into account. The cards that start in your hand were in your deck, therefore the start of the game effect won't trigger. However, an eel is a battlecry effect, therefore it would work like that.
Yea ik i just wished it worked that way in game when it was first released cuz it depends on the way u view the game cuz ur hand and deck are kinda separate and also depends on when u view the start of the game. I was just commenting about toast’s postulation about trying to mulligan both the flame tongue in his hand
@@dereklinin5367 That's why Magic the Gathering for example makes a very clear distinction between the word "deck" - the collection of cards you start with and the word "library" - the collection of cards that are left of your deck at the moment of consideration. Tbh hearthstone could do a lot if they actually hired someone to clean up and universalize their card text/syntax/formatting. I know Toast used to complain about that a lot.
Imagine if you could have as few cards as you want in a deck. You could have Genn and Baku in the deck on their own so you would never have either even or odd cards in your deck, activating both at the same time for the ultimate hero power! Unbeatable.
Sadly I was one of the 470 people that played this deck since it being nerfed. Luckily, I still got the win that game! I wouldn't recommend it though and I've since deleted the deck.
Genn won't trigger even with both flametongues in hand, I know that because I tried to make even quest paladin and the quest stopped it too even in opening hand
@@Brisingrr_ I'd expect so. It also makes sense if you think about it even without testing because there are no even quest decks. If it worked I feel like even buff paladin could do well with sound the bells and spikeridge steed with the guranteed target.
That's so funny , the other day i was looking at decks on YOUR site and saw a LEGEND RANK 1 odd paladin deck as a rank 1 deck and it had a 6 mana cost card in it GG
to be fair even shamans hero power is shit anyway. it was the deck which was strong so keep the flametongues and swap genn for a bloodlust and you have a pretty good deck.
I am surprised there are few decks worse than Baku + Keleseth I have seen at least 20 just this month, who knows how many before that. People do play it. And it performs better than a lot of these decks, wow...
I am just getting into this game. I looks like a lot of fun. Is there a good strategy guide I can read or watch that anyone can recommend? I am unsure why some cards are not being played and why some are being played. It looks like half the time he leaves attacks off the board to me.
The first is the same as in "this is not even my final form" the second is because it is not really an even deck and the last because it was supposed to be one
I expected a little more lenience from the creator of No Mechathun Mechathun. I mean, sure, the bluff component is missing, but apart from that it's almost the same idea...
It only happened because after the patch that nerfed flametongue to 3 mana the decks were not changed and people queued with them not knowing that their even synergy won't trigger.
We have reached an era in HS where you need to play bad decks to feel rewarded because all the "good" netdecks feel so dumb that make you feel the decks are played by themselves.
I'm sure this has been asked a million times but is there a text or even a text and photo link of all cards in each class in the upcoming expansion that are being removed from regular play. My apologies, been sick
@@craciunvictor2136 I edited it man my apologies. I meant the ones that are being removed. I got the majority I think but I need to start practicing and it's been hard for me to get an exact list of cards being retired
Toast i discovered the most overpowered combo, but it takes some luck to pull off. after watching your last video I decided to let hearthstone make a deck for me, it made a version of dragon warrior. I did Dragon roar > emeriss > War master Voone > Zola the Gorgon. My hand life and attack doubled 3 times. this can be dangerous... hehe...
Toast," I'm never lucky"
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I once’s got a Eliza trail blazer from a un goro pack (card not real pack) and then 2 more trailblazers from that
@@loganpaulapologyvideo2971 i once got lich King Into 2 of 2 deathcoils in a Control Mirror-Match(Recruit Warrior vs Control Paladin)
@@leobastian_ i once stole the deathrattle minion from maly rogue, and i had malygos in hand, then just vele double mind blast, weird his win condition was harder for him than for me
Consider this: Not even even shaman is NOT the deck with the lowest winrate, when I guarantee that a large percentage of people who started a game with it instantly conceded to fix their deck when Genn didn't trigger. That means that a substantial percentage of people who did not do that managed to win anyway.
Basically Shaman OP.
Omg make sense
Came here to say this.
Resident sleeper
For those who are wondering if you were to get both flame tongue in hand, would the effects take hold on your hero power, the answer is no. Hearthstone reads your deck before you draw cards and THEN changes the hero power. The animation of drawing cards comes first but interaction comes first. How did I know? Because I tried making Even Quest Paladin. Since all the buffs were even and a lot of buff synergy cards were even, and you always draw the quest, seemed pretty good. Didn't change the hero power.
After these games, I feel like you should start a new series 'The Worst Players in Hearthstone'
You're not kidding. I'm sitting around rank 9 rn and I would love to run into these players, it's absolutely mind boggling how fucking terrible they are. they actually play like rank 30.
@@baller7387 they didn't even misplay that badly other than the rogue's first evasion and the priest's psychic scream. You probably do run into players like these and probably are one yourself, so why be so judgmental.
@@baller7387 rank 9 is nothing, wait till you get to rank 3 to 1 (hint. its rngfiesta)
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Dicerolls to Legend
@@Starcanum- Lol, I don't think you're in any position to say anyone is bad if you think the only misplays committed were the rogues first evasion and priest's scream. Right off the bat rogue completely wastes necrium on a 2/2 WHEN HE HAD BACKStAB IN HIS HAND. As for priest, the first misplay (as toast literally points out) is not healing bear from 1 health when he could easily have been punished for it. Next priest uses divine spirit on oakheart for tempo when he could (and should) have saved it for combo on mogushan enforcer. Hence toast immediately saying he's trash, lol. Next he plays northshire cleric to literally no effect, presumably just to spare himself 6 damage to face from genn when he literally has hysteria in his hand for removal and he's at full health (bad play). that you apparently didn't notice any of that indicates to me that you're not a very good player.
“I just gotta mulligan for both flametongues”
Yeah this doesn’t work. I learnt the hard way trying to make “Even Quest Paladin”.
'Can't expect even shaman players to be able to read', hahah
1:04 it doesn’t work I tried that when odd and even first came out. I tried playing quest in even decks cuz u can guarantee that it’s in your hand
Quests take your starting deck into account. The cards that start in your hand were in your deck, therefore the start of the game effect won't trigger. However, an eel is a battlecry effect, therefore it would work like that.
Yea ik i just wished it worked that way in game when it was first released cuz it depends on the way u view the game cuz ur hand and deck are kinda separate and also depends on when u view the start of the game. I was just commenting about toast’s postulation about trying to mulligan both the flame tongue in his hand
Nowmad read the comment before you reply -_-
@@dereklinin5367 Sure, I'm just pointing out that yes, having both flametongue totems in hand would activate eel.
@@dereklinin5367 That's why Magic the Gathering for example makes a very clear distinction between the word "deck" - the collection of cards you start with and the word "library" - the collection of cards that are left of your deck at the moment of consideration.
Tbh hearthstone could do a lot if they actually hired someone to clean up and universalize their card text/syntax/formatting. I know Toast used to complain about that a lot.
Today Toast fights two opponents that can't even as much as this deck.
I like how I can say that you weren't even playing even even shaman, but you were playing not even-even shaman.
That just makes this even better.
0:57 wrong legendary bud
Imagine if you could have as few cards as you want in a deck. You could have Genn and Baku in the deck on their own so you would never have either even or odd cards in your deck, activating both at the same time for the ultimate hero power! Unbeatable.
Sadly I was one of the 470 people that played this deck since it being nerfed. Luckily, I still got the win that game! I wouldn't recommend it though and I've since deleted the deck.
Genn won't trigger even with both flametongues in hand, I know that because I tried to make even quest paladin and the quest stopped it too even in opening hand
I remember seeing a video when genn and Baku first came out and it worked, was it patches or something?
@@Brisingrr_ I'd expect so. It also makes sense if you think about it even without testing because there are no even quest decks. If it worked I feel like even buff paladin could do well with sound the bells and spikeridge steed with the guranteed target.
This deck really should be called "Uneven shaman"
Best series in a long time.
Lovin this series
Worst deck #5
Baku rogue with nerfed cold blood
Really fun videos love this series
Technically the title could have been "Winning with not even even Even Shaman" and still make sense.
Every time i use the auto complete (don't have all the cards) it theows in black night everyone single time lmao even in a mechatun deck
I mean to me it seems like a lot of the best shaman cards are even anyway. Heck the flametongue is probably worth breaking even anyway.
That's so funny , the other day i was looking at decks on YOUR site and saw a LEGEND RANK 1 odd paladin deck as a rank 1 deck and it had a 6 mana cost card in it GG
6:32 to 6:44 Dr. Boom says: WAAAAH???
"Nothing wrong at alllll" I think this is the video that made me love you sir
to be fair even shamans hero power is shit anyway. it was the deck which was strong so keep the flametongues and swap genn for a bloodlust and you have a pretty good deck.
nah Knife Juggler with 1-mana hero power is needed to deal with odd paladin recruit spam. Hero power is irrelevant against slow decks tho
Your thumbnails are the best
I am surprised there are few decks worse than Baku + Keleseth
I have seen at least 20 just this month, who knows how many before that. People do play it.
And it performs better than a lot of these decks, wow...
"Mort" actually mean "dead" in french x)
The video should've been called "I can't even..."
100% Winrate with non even even shaman, that's amazing lol
Losing to an even shaman that's not even even shaman is even worse than to a shaman that's even
Isn't not even-even shaman, just..... shaman?
Zilliax as the most overplayed legendary in hearthstone history? OG Dr. Boom would like a word with you
I am just getting into this game. I looks like a lot of fun. Is there a good strategy guide I can read or watch that anyone can recommend? I am unsure why some cards are not being played and why some are being played. It looks like half the time he leaves attacks off the board to me.
The best title would have been "Not even even even shaman"
Wait, where does the third even comes from?
@@sirrismendozasunlessrealms5775 it's an Even Shaman that's not even using only even cards
The first is the same as in "this is not even my final form" the second is because it is not really an even deck and the last because it was supposed to be one
'' what kind of fuggery is this scheiße" 😂😂😂🇩🇪
Omg I did this challenge on accident after the balance update and I forgot to take flametongue totem out
not even even even shaman, the even shaman which's deck is not even even
Oh cool, its even Shaman! Wait.. what?
BIG WOW on that one!!
You do not get the Genn activation. If you did, even quest would be possible, and it is not.
I expected a little more lenience from the creator of No Mechathun Mechathun. I mean, sure, the bluff component is missing, but apart from that it's almost the same idea...
I totally was one if them 400 people lmao! Didnt even realize they nerfed that totem....
I LITERALLY JUST REALIZED THE FLAMETONGUE TOTEMS THE DECK MAKER IS DUMB
It only happened because after the patch that nerfed flametongue to 3 mana the decks were not changed and people queued with them not knowing that their even synergy won't trigger.
TheOblomoff Oh ok
I guess you could say...
The Shaman can't even.
Even shaman that is not even even. Wow
what is the thing you use to see your deck?
Imagine playing Wall Priest in the year two thousand nine-teen, lmao.
If you put a quest in an even deck does it still activate Grens?
The start of game effects reference the decklist but it works with the eel because it checks your current deck status iirc
does the pre-order work now?
I heard there were bugs with it.
This Not even even Shaman was pretty good Kappa
"Mort" is actually the french word for "DEATH !"
Same in Romanian
nice going bob
"O miserável é um gênio".
how can he know how many ppl qeued up with that deck? 00:30
Hsreplay stats
It’s not shamans hero power that is broken but the even deck is
We lookin at you "Mort"
All my hexes live in Texas
toast can i stalk you? but in a not weird way
therealtora0724 there is no weird way
Elemental Shaman doesn't look too bad. :V
Best deck with Baku and Genn?
But where is the best harbinger celestia deck?
5:27 really?
How about not even not odd Genn and Baku deck? lmao
Brilliant!
How did he load the deck in like that?
If you copy a deck code from HSReplay then the game asks you if you want to make a deck with the code and if you choose 'yes', that happens.
how did this deck get made by a person
We have reached an era in HS where you need to play bad decks to feel rewarded because all the "good" netdecks feel so dumb that make you feel the decks are played by themselves.
Evenn't shaman
non even even shaman new meta?
15:04. '0'
humble
Im drunk :)
A forth taco
I'm sure this has been asked a million times but is there a text or even a text and photo link of all cards in each class in the upcoming expansion that are being removed from regular play. My apologies, been sick
Only like 10 cards revealed
@@craciunvictor2136 I edited it man my apologies. I meant the ones that are being removed. I got the majority I think but I need to start practicing and it's been hard for me to get an exact list of cards being retired
@@RoomerJ baku genn and all cards ungoro kotf and kobolds and catacombs, naturalize and divine favour
7:47 is toast cursing in German? xD
Is this *even* a Joke?
Toast i discovered the most overpowered combo, but it takes some luck to pull off. after watching your last video I decided to let hearthstone make a deck for me, it made a version of dragon warrior. I did Dragon roar > emeriss > War master Voone > Zola the Gorgon. My hand life and attack doubled 3 times. this can be dangerous... hehe...
Muito bom 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 você é o melhor!
I guess flametongue is just a broken card lol
Lol 6:33
This was I was quetioning, if I have the odd cards in my hand, the effect does goes off? Like quest for example...
TOAST! Why are you not using random card back?
not even even even shaman?
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Do you even even shaman?
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Hey my guys how do I fix the pink screen? Everything on the forums is outdated from 2 years ago, please help
lol 666 likes and 6 dislikes do i ruin it??
What's the point when you make an even shaman deck and cancel the main effect?
its funny
For the memes
Where is "The Worst Decks In Hearthstone #3" ? Or you played 20 games with that deck and just gave up :D
Vurry Early
Fun fact:Mort is a romanian word and it means dead so basically he was already dead.
Giovani Anania french word