It also beautifully demonstrated why Hearthstone once you've paid five figures for all the cards has barely any wiggle room for skill outside of knowing / estimating possible random card generation results. Those games couldn't possibly have ended any other way for any player who doesn't make stupid mistakes because the random effects were so OVERWHELMINGLY more important than any skill involved. Edit: Thanks for the upvotes guys. We may laugh at it now, but this is unfortunately a constant trend. Remember when Pavel "Babbling Booked" his flight to the actual world championship title? Heck even in mirror matchups the variance of certain singular cards can now determine entire matches (primarly Hagatha Spell generation and how often Dr Boom rolls his perfect Heropower, mostly Delivery Drone)
Shame about the Game 1 Missed Lethal from Viper. ua-cam.com/video/3Utz7oWvFFE/v-deo.html Attack enemy minion with imp. Give the other 1/1 2 health making it 1/3 and ex trap proof..
Viper vs Hunterace's last match was the most insane thing I have EVER watched in Hearthstone. I can usually never stick long to those HS matches but this one kept me cheering. Fucking CHEERING in a hearthstone match with people I little cared about. Madness. I loved it
same for me i dont really watch it to much anymore and when i try i cant keep watching but this final series this series was so awesome and vipers last draw was also part of all this insanity!
@@Definitely_Melnyx I still don't get why he threw 2nd witchwood imp. To me it was kind of obvious that it was explosive trap (because why would you stay in game if you're guaranteed to die next turn+ he was setting up for an AoE) and Hunter was at 1 hp so if he just triggered explosive, play 2nd witchwood imp then he would had lethal that hunter can't really deal with without another topdecking.
@@allhailderpfestor4839 Because he made a read that it was Misdirection. The expected play for Hunterace there if he had Explosive Trap was to backstab the 4/3 and trade his minion into the 1/1 with divine shield, since that leaves Viper with only 1 health minions on the board, so they all die to Explosive.
@@TheAce12570 That's correct, but even against Misdirection he could have played only the Voidwalker, attacked, and then played the second Witchwood Imp afterwards. That would have given him a slightly worse Misdirection chance, but he would have left a 1/1 Stealth on the board that the opponent couldn't kill except with Fan of Knives, and he would have had lethal the next turn.
i agree. such a great read which can only be made by odds and calculations and experience of playing hs. Even though i played sht load of hs this play would fear random draws like dire frienzy some sort of tracking or killcommand for lethal. Really good job from Casper
yup, thats why he is world champion, he tracked vipers deck, realized what vipers outs are if he does that and calculated that he has high chance to just win game instead of going defensively. I would definitely just heal myself with alex and chill.
Very well deserved championship for Hunterace,he clearly shown he played one of his best series. Outro song matched right in time after of the end from highlights moments of the matches. Well Played Trolden, Greetings Traveler.
Insane last game i watched it all live. Such crazy ideal game of hs back and forth, going to fatigue, every card count and rng is super important in that scenario.
The final match was beyond insane luckily I already knew that hunterace was going to make it otherwise I would have probably suffered a minor heart attack
´´or would have needed significantly more luck.´´ that's not the case with other card games. But Hearthstone should only entertain and not basing on skills. What a shame.
@@TintenHunter that is not really true. Hearthstone has the least random core engine of many games. At it's hearth MTG is way more random, in hearthstone the rng is just way more spectacular. In hearthstone The randomness depends mostly on the metagame and the matchup. (The cards played.) In MTG the randomness is built into the manasystem which can and does end games before they even started. Card games are and have to be fundamentally random but you can design the rng in many different ways. Some are more skilltesting than others, and some are more visible than others.
I think Hearthstone simply uses random mechanics to entertain. and yes its sucks in Mtg to be mana screwd. but you should not be a fun game compared to the one that has really deep mechanics. At yu gi oh you can not have any mana problems and it does not end well with cards with pure random mechanics.
I was so happy to catch the last two matches of the final on stream. That final match in particular was insane, back and forth, so unsure who would win. Thankfully, I got my packs cause Hunterace won, but it really could have gone to Viper.
I was rooting for Viper the entire time but when he started getting insanely lucky in the last match, Hunterace became the underdog and I really wanted him to persevere. Absolutely insane finale. Both players are phenomenal. If it were possible to give both players first place, I would.
@@morgantaylor84 Yes it is, there is no luck in chess, it's a perfect information game. Even though computers have allowed players to learn the lines, players will never learn the perfect lines, even computers may never learn the perfect lines. As comparison, Connect 4 is an exponentially easier game for humans to learn, even a solved game, but no human knows all of the perfect lines to Connect 4. People were complaining about computers in the World Chess Championship last year, but since then, Magnus Carlsen has won 3 straight tournaments against Super GMs and is once again by far the best player in the world.
@@kellyeaton7252 There's more skill in Poker than Hearthstone tho since it's just random draws in that game and in hearthstone there are random cards with random outcomes that summon random things with random effects. I feel that it's justified to laugh at competitive Hearthstone because it's one of the least competitive "esports" out there and most people enjoy watching it just to see people being screwed over by rng.
I would have agreed with you IF Rafaam RNG in the last game had won the series. In the end not only the RNG was better than the average but Hunterace managed to win by getting the most value from his cards, in a non meta deck which included Ancestral Healing and had Hagatha in the last 3 cards of the deck.
First game of the Grand Finals was sooo bizzare. But Viper didn't missplayed as u may think. Because of Hunterace's misstake, which was atacking Imp with SI7 ( if he backstabed imp it would die to the trap) it looked like Hunterace was setting up for missdirection (maximazing chances of viper's minions killing each other). I can tell that it wasnt some kind of mindgames because of the look on his face (or maybe he is just a great actor but i doubt that ). So Viper thought it was Missdirection and he played those minions to higher the chances of at least one of his minions surviving. I may be wrong but it sounds like a perfect explanation
@@XFireXDrago the reason Viper went for misdirection in particular was that bluff trade with IS-7 agent Casper made turn earlier. He could have saved the 3/2 body of IS-7 by backstabbing the imp but instead he traded it off, so it seemed like he was trying to reduce the amount of minions on board
MISSED LETHAL AT 6:55! Run the Witchwood Imp into the 4/3, it passes the 2 extra health to the other 1/1. 1/3 then goes face and tanks the explosive trap with 1 health left!
It's not lethal on missdirection, keep in mind that viper does not see the secret. Hunterace set up the board so Viper could not have 100% lethal, so he had to play around either missdirection or explosive and he played around the wrong one.
@@lastbeaf the reason Viper went for misdirection in particular was that bluff trade with IS-7 agent Casper made turn earlier. He could have saved the 3/2 body of IS-7 by backstabbing the imp but instead he traded it off, so it seemed like he was trying to reduce the amount of minions on board
that tap was so bad, play the 7/8 taunt is just better and may get lethal by Lerroy, priest 1/1 into something, And tap just lose the game because no direct damage in that deck.
Nobody :
Totemic Might :
I'm gonna end this man's whole career.
(Totemic) Might is right.
GJ dude, i laughed out loud. you have served me well. here you go.... get plus 5 karma from me :)
I mean he still had hex, but I laughed my ass off. Good Job!
Top Tier comment
It also beautifully demonstrated why Hearthstone once you've paid five figures for all the cards has barely any wiggle room for skill outside of knowing / estimating possible random card generation results. Those games couldn't possibly have ended any other way for any player who doesn't make stupid mistakes because the random effects were so OVERWHELMINGLY more important than any skill involved.
Edit: Thanks for the upvotes guys. We may laugh at it now, but this is unfortunately a constant trend. Remember when Pavel "Babbling Booked" his flight to the actual world championship title?
Heck even in mirror matchups the variance of certain singular cards can now determine entire matches (primarly Hagatha Spell generation and how often Dr Boom rolls his perfect Heropower, mostly Delivery Drone)
totemic might to win the final game!
best card ever printed!
After all these years totemic might is in the meta
why? he have a hex on next turn
Dont forget ancestral healing
r/woooosh
Shame about the Game 1 Missed Lethal from Viper. ua-cam.com/video/3Utz7oWvFFE/v-deo.html Attack enemy minion with imp. Give the other 1/1 2 health making it 1/3 and ex trap proof..
The Rafaam game in the finals made me realize why I both love and hate Hearthstone
Imagine his last card was Nomi xD, he would have won. Do much RNG
And, according to Kripparian, why is Hearthstone so amazing to watch.
@@gerrion25 and terrible to play, exactly
@@pierrotmoon1 Depends on which end you are. And as you can see Deckbuilding + Skill > Rng.
@@abrakadaniel5908 The only thing that'd make that last game better in my opinion would be if his last card was Elysiana for 10 more cards in his deck
Holy crap that last game was quite something.
Viper vs Hunterace's last match was the most insane thing I have EVER watched in Hearthstone. I can usually never stick long to those HS matches but this one kept me cheering. Fucking CHEERING in a hearthstone match with people I little cared about. Madness. I loved it
It was pretty awesome live.
same for me i dont really watch it to much anymore and when i try i cant keep watching but this final series this series was so awesome and vipers last draw was also part of all this insanity!
Totally deserved, congrats to Hunterace but also Viper for this anthology finale
Im still thinking what if Viper used Rafaam in the first game.
everyone is and it shall forever remain a mystery
@@Definitely_Melnyx I still don't get why he threw 2nd witchwood imp.
To me it was kind of obvious that it was explosive trap (because why would you stay in game if you're guaranteed to die next turn+ he was setting up for an AoE) and Hunter was at 1 hp so if he just triggered explosive, play 2nd witchwood imp then he would had lethal that hunter can't really deal with without another topdecking.
@@allhailderpfestor4839 Because he made a read that it was Misdirection. The expected play for Hunterace there if he had Explosive Trap was to backstab the 4/3 and trade his minion into the 1/1 with divine shield, since that leaves Viper with only 1 health minions on the board, so they all die to Explosive.
@@TheAce12570 That's correct, but even against Misdirection he could have played only the Voidwalker, attacked, and then played the second Witchwood Imp afterwards. That would have given him a slightly worse Misdirection chance, but he would have left a 1/1 Stealth on the board that the opponent couldn't kill except with Fan of Knives, and he would have had lethal the next turn.
I'm back after 5 years and I just want to say this is PEAK hearthstone! The competitive landscape will never feel the same again
yeah it will never be the same again….
That agressive Alextrasa was so SICK. Clearly, THAT'S what you call a world champion's plaays!
i agree. such a great read which can only be made by odds and calculations and experience of playing hs. Even though i played sht load of hs this play would fear random draws like dire frienzy some sort of tracking or killcommand for lethal. Really good job from Casper
That's the difference between a play to win move and a play not to die move.
Viper still had no hand
yup, thats why he is world champion, he tracked vipers deck, realized what vipers outs are if he does that and calculated that he has high chance to just win game instead of going defensively. I would definitely just heal myself with alex and chill.
Yeah, that's a skill move. Lot of lucky for Viper, but Hunterace's victory was deserved in my opinion
Totemic Might won the World Championship? We truly live in the most bizarre timeline.
It wasn't really necessary.. he couldve just killed gruul next turn with the pyro
@@shlabedeshlub3334 Exactly, Hunterace had enough health to survive, and Viper's last card was only a Thalnos.
@@shlabedeshlub3334 but he less a lot hit points
but it didn't though. can you not see the hex in hand?
@@alejandrom.
Yeah but he didn't know that
That last game in the finals is one of the greatest games I've ever seen.
The hunterace vs viper finals was some of the best hearthstone ive seen, watching it live was insane, props to both they played out of their minds
Game 5 of the finals was the biggest rollercoaster of emotions ever in hearthstone history.
3:10 at this point if the 1812 Overture isn't playing in your head, then you have not been following this channel for very long.
It is my next video on auto play.
Very well deserved championship for Hunterace,he clearly shown he played one of his best series. Outro song matched right in time after of the end from highlights moments of the matches. Well Played Trolden, Greetings Traveler.
Сколько раз смотрю - а финал каждый раз держит в напряжении ) Малой, спасибо за паки (1 лега)
Insane last game i watched it all live. Such crazy ideal game of hs back and forth, going to fatigue, every card count and rng is super important in that scenario.
hunterace at the end is like "i dont know what just happened but boy am i glad its over"
Okay, wow, I didn't know Hearthstone had FINAL BOSS level finals!
The final match was beyond insane luckily I already knew that hunterace was going to make it otherwise I would have probably suffered a minor heart attack
I didn't actually know who won, so believe me when I say that riding a Rollercoaster would have been relaxing in comparison
@@asmodin88 those ones are the best matches :D
running double Ancestral Healing kinda saved him from the double Azalina
World Champion in the most random card game ever. GG
A less skilled player wouldn't even have made it into those rng situations, or would have needed significantly more luck.
´´or would have needed significantly more luck.´´ that's not the case with other card games. But Hearthstone should only entertain and not basing on skills. What a shame.
@@TintenHunter that is not really true.
Hearthstone has the least random core engine of many games.
At it's hearth MTG is way more random, in hearthstone the rng is just way more spectacular.
In hearthstone
The randomness depends mostly on the metagame and the matchup. (The cards played.)
In MTG the randomness is built into the manasystem which can and does end games before they even started.
Card games are and have to be fundamentally random but you can design the rng in many different ways. Some are more skilltesting than others, and some are more visible than others.
Won randomly by guy who has best HTC score this year.
I think Hearthstone simply uses random mechanics to entertain.
and yes its
sucks in Mtg to be mana screwd.
but you should not be a fun game compared to the one that has really deep mechanics.
At yu gi oh you can not have any mana problems and it does not end well with cards with pure random mechanics.
By far the craziest hearths tone episode I watched EVER
I was so happy to catch the last two matches of the final on stream. That final match in particular was insane, back and forth, so unsure who would win. Thankfully, I got my packs cause Hunterace won, but it really could have gone to Viper.
I was rooting for Viper the entire time but when he started getting insanely lucky in the last match, Hunterace became the underdog and I really wanted him to persevere. Absolutely insane finale. Both players are phenomenal. If it were possible to give both players first place, I would.
That final was one seriously great game! It had so many great moments!
Finally this random insanity transformed into something we can enjoy.
That series was so awesome, what an epic final game!!! Very well deserved champion title!
7:00 missed lethal imp into trade and the cleric doesn't die
this is true lmao . Thats why viper didnt deserve to win this
@Simon Garner how does this imp attack connect w/ misdirection trap?
Imo it was a mistake anyway
@@mxxnwvlker Beacuse if it was Misdirection imp had only 1/3 to attack squire. Viper played around it, took his chances, it wasnt that.
Cool I am not the only one seeing it
Incredible series! Btw if Viper didn't make that misplay at 6:50 and played the second imp after the secret he would have won the championship.
La dernière game vient de prendre une toute nouvelle dimension
Griftah in the HCT finals. What a time to be alive.
The best World Championship finale in hearthstone
that last game shows how good the champ is....so much rng against him and he managed to hang on till it shifted to his favour.
It was such a treat having a Worlds that was actually entertaining. Thank you Blizzard.
That final was the most intense ever in the history of the game lol
7:10 is a missplay because if he would kill his witchwood imp he would make the 1/1 to a 1/3 which triggers the explosive but still deal 1dmg
that last game 😍😱
Пожалуй, лучший финал за все времена. Особенно последний матч, но также камбек рейса в первой игре и свинг через алекстразу!
11:42 true ffs moment for Hunterace :D
Did a legendary championship justice, thanks Trolden :)
yea that game 5 will go down in the history of HS as the best finals game ever
That was a very deserved final match.
Kibler doesn't realize that the green glow means something must be giving Khadgar rush
Kibler is colorblind so he misses the glow on a lot of cards and minions.
LOL competitive Hearthstone
Well to be fair neither is Chess. At least not for Humans anymore.
@@morgantaylor84 Yes it is, there is no luck in chess, it's a perfect information game. Even though computers have allowed players to learn the lines, players will never learn the perfect lines, even computers may never learn the perfect lines. As comparison, Connect 4 is an exponentially easier game for humans to learn, even a solved game, but no human knows all of the perfect lines to Connect 4.
People were complaining about computers in the World Chess Championship last year, but since then, Magnus Carlsen has won 3 straight tournaments against Super GMs and is once again by far the best player in the world.
... LOL competitive poker? Oh right, there are players who can reliably bend the odds in their favor while to chumps the thing just looks like luck.
@@kellyeaton7252 There's more skill in Poker than Hearthstone tho since it's just random draws in that game and in hearthstone there are random cards with random outcomes that summon random things with random effects. I feel that it's justified to laugh at competitive Hearthstone because it's one of the least competitive "esports" out there and most people enjoy watching it just to see people being screwed over by rng.
I would have agreed with you IF Rafaam RNG in the last game had won the series.
In the end not only the RNG was better than the average but Hunterace managed to win by getting the most value from his cards, in a non meta deck which included Ancestral Healing and had Hagatha in the last 3 cards of the deck.
13:11 Totally deserved win!
What an amazing last game i'm so happy to have choose Hunterace for the HCT !
First game of the Grand Finals was sooo bizzare. But Viper didn't missplayed as u may think. Because of Hunterace's misstake, which was atacking Imp with SI7 ( if he backstabed imp it would die to the trap) it looked like Hunterace was setting up for missdirection (maximazing chances of viper's minions killing each other). I can tell that it wasnt some kind of mindgames because of the look on his face (or maybe he is just a great actor but i doubt that ). So Viper thought it was Missdirection and he played those minions to higher the chances of at least one of his minions surviving. I may be wrong but it sounds like a perfect explanation
Better than saying: reeee viper stupid nooob xdxdxdxd
The finalists get amazing games with great interactions and I'm sitting here at rank 25 losing to murloc priest. Feelsbad man
Lol get good noob
Easily one of the most exciting videos yet.So much crazy stuff!
Viper is the kind of teddy bear you'd want to snuggle with while watching a movie.
Best Trolden episode! What an emotional seri
1. Kibler/Frodan
2. Admirable/TJ
3. Darroch Brown
4. Cora
98. Elmo
99. Joe Buck
100. Sottle/Raven
That game 3 aggro push with Alex. That's pro plays.
Best series of HS of all time and my favorite champ since Firebat.
What has been seen can't be unseen
My favorite part is the face of Hunterace at 8:26 !
Kibler’s commentary is so good
Havent seen a more random final in my life
Финал конечно жесть. Как же парню не везло, но он победил.
Missed Lethal in Game 1. at 6:50. Imp attacks enemy minion. Dies and gives other minion 2 health, making it 1/3 and survives Explosive Trap.
11:17 the moment he knew he has to say wtf
Totemic Might now should got some additional animation. The victorious one.
That last last game i’m so done XDDDD
This is one of the best and most intense Hearthstone videos I've ever seen....
Holy fucking shit...
That last game was amazing
That final was such a clown fiesta
Missed leathel at 7:00 could of traded the imp
Well i prefer Viper missed lethal, so we can see the Legendary final match lol
yep, all the other secrets that wouldnt guarantee the win to viper aren't in standard anymore
@@XFireXDrago Viper was playing around Misdirection. Was a 50/50 shot
@@XFireXDrago the reason Viper went for misdirection in particular was that bluff trade with IS-7 agent Casper made turn earlier. He could have saved the 3/2 body of IS-7 by backstabbing the imp but instead he traded it off, so it seemed like he was trying to reduce the amount of minions on board
I can't think of a worse fate than having to play competetive hearthstone as a job.
.... yeah
could be cleaning up other people's poop
You need to check your definitions of a bad job...
watching this from 2024 damn man i miss this
MISSED LETHAL AT 6:55!
Run the Witchwood Imp into the 4/3, it passes the 2 extra health to the other 1/1. 1/3 then goes face and tanks the explosive trap with 1 health left!
Eevee the only issue is that Viper didn’t know what the secret was, and misdirection would have made that the wrong play.
@@Diegocentric87 still not correct TO BLOW ALL YOUR MINION ON BOARD before triggering the secret
Insane last game. Nailbiter to the very end. Makes HS look like a proper E-sport ;)
That last game was INSANE. My boi Hunterace gonna give me 6 packs btw.
That last finals game...
Yes, definitely watch the full thing, but your editing adds something extra to it.
Best HCT finals game EVA!!!
Hunterace’s expressions are priceless 😂
Хантерфейс заслуженно победил, а вайперу на протяжении всего турнира везло!
That bomb was heartbreaking
legendary game, hello from 2021 :)
Champions, ready to fight?
That was intense af
I really love how Hunterace is just progressively "the fuck? *the fuck?* THE FUCK?" throughout that last game lmao
I've thoroughly enjoyed watching these players suffer in RNG fest. I'm a bad person.
insane Last Matchup
Hunterace vs Viper is amazing match of all time.
the audience sound effect tho hahahhaha
Should've attacked first and THEN played a second Imp at 7:30
Вайпер... Ты был близок я в тебя верил!!!
6:48 How about attack burglar with imp and then go face with 1/3 minion?
It's not lethal on missdirection, keep in mind that viper does not see the secret. Hunterace set up the board so Viper could not have 100% lethal, so he had to play around either missdirection or explosive and he played around the wrong one.
Wandering isnt in Standard anymore.
@@lastbeaf the reason Viper went for misdirection in particular was that bluff trade with IS-7 agent Casper made turn earlier. He could have saved the 3/2 body of IS-7 by backstabbing the imp but instead he traded it off, so it seemed like he was trying to reduce the amount of minions on board
that tap was so bad, play the 7/8 taunt is just better and may get lethal by Lerroy, priest 1/1 into something, And tap just lose the game because no direct damage in that deck.
@@chengchenghe2069 He had 2 soulfires in deck. If he plays Rafaam and it gets killed it's almost certainly gg in 2 turns
I still can't believe that Viper went from accidental Blackhowl Gunspire lethal at 0-2 to 1 game off champion trophy.
That hunterace VS viper game shaved years off my life
That last game
They get in the endgame
LOL
Holy Shit! I can't wait to play Hunter Ace's Deck in that Tavern Brawl when it comes around again. :V
why wait? it costs only 1600 dust ,-)
@@ErLeuchten Championship decks don't do that well on ladder unfortunately.
11:20
He said "wtf"
most epic final ever
Невероятный финал)))
You can name whole video "Matches in which bloodyface gets destroyed"
Jesus christ. I had anxiety watching that match.
Jesus christ , what a final
Да, эта игра была самая лучшая из всех турнирных игр.