Hello there ... funny that I came across this clip on UA-cam. I actually worked on the digital aspect of the work done by ILM on Hook and certainly on this particular shot. Anyways, sort of silly how so many comments get stuck on the voice-over. I bet you would have liked mine, with a good German accent and all. If you search for me on google or youtube, I imagine that there are plenty of talks of mine out there ... I never checked, haha. To add what was said, the trick of projecting a 2D painting onto a simple 3D geometry is that in this case, Yusei painted the landscape in a perspective for the final frame of the shot and thus at the end of the camera's perspective travel. The projection that I did then simply revealed that final painting in a perspective manner. Compositing that cotton cloud element was painful. I added a lot of simple 2D fractal mist patterns to fly through camera to integrate Robin William's blue-screen element with those clouds. Also, note that I took the outline of his 2D figure and distorted it as a cast shadow over the cotton cloud element. Yes, that water fall was a simple particle simulation that I added. And, added the rainbow as well, with a little bit of subtle variation in its appearance throughout. I started at ILM on T-2. And the one thing I still remember is that most of the guys still working the optical printers on Hook just couldn't believe how many versions of the digital comps I would run in order to get it right. Well, next I moved on to Jurassic Park with Steven ... and it all changed. Anyways, for all of you watching something like this, don't get so hung up on the voice-over. It actually wasn't that bad, in my opinion. Of course, all of this stuff is now available via in-expensive, off-the-shelf software. Heck, you can now create a dinosaur on your personal computer and make it move. The only reason for all of you geeks to watch this sort of video is to find out when and how it was all invented. And those were the fun days of doing VFX, right at the frontier of how something that hadn't been done before was figured out by a fairly small team at ILM. T-2, Jurassic Park, Twister, Perfect Storm... it can't get much better than that! Cheers, Stefen Fangmeier
Hello Stefen! Thank you for writing about the process, it's great to have all that information directly from you. And the purpose of this video is exactly to present how a technique, so important today in VFX creation, was invented.
Stefen Fangmeier bruh. I’m sorry but I stopped reading after “Hook” and I have to thank you for being apart of my childhood. You should let someone interview you for UA-cam to document your experiences in the film industry. Edit. Should’ve read the whole thing lol.
ZeroLenny, a gaming channel, found success through text to speech but that is the only one I can think of. And he uses his real voice every now and again
I agree, there is some GREAT content here, but having a monotone robotic voice read it just lowers the production value. Ever consider using one of those online VO services? Recently I did a project with one of those and it sounded amazing. A great narrator would make this video look like it came off the Discovery Channel.
I will do your voiceovers for you. Just replace the robot. This was such a great video, just needed more personality. Also I'm not kidding. I will record some VO for you.
Right?? What is with people on UA-cam using synthetic voices?? They really hate thier voice that much? Think they sound like the Elephant Man?? Dont have friends who could do a quick VO? Or know some random asshole who could? Its unfortunate cos this video is a neat little historical piece. But everytime the robot stops his sentence dead is distracting.
My main problem with recording myself talking is my extremely strong accent. I live in Brazil and is really rare to find English speakers, so l don't practice nearly as much as l wanted to have a fluid speech. Maybe that's the reason, or maybe not. idk lol
@@ThisOLmaan I can see where @Onimirare is coming from. It helps to hear this kind of dialogue to get the full picture. My comment is more about that useing voice-to-text softwares can often make a great video sound unappealing or take a viewer out of the enchantment that information or a story told. If people who do more to make an effort to use thier own or someone elses voice it can be suprising the affect it can have an the viewer. i know sometimes it can be uncomfortable to use one's own voice. But it is this genuineness that comes forth that can be most rewarding for the viewer and oftentimes the creator as well. I appreciate @Onimirare wanting to sound more fluid. This can certainly come across, perhaps, more professional. With a channel like VFX Geek, if he is going to put all this effort into designing his channel he should invest in a human voice. It would make his channel more enriching. Even witha lack of resources, there a ways to get a human to narrate.
Almost didn't notice text-to-speech. Interesting that so many commenters did. Without seeing comments, it took me till about half the video to spot something is off. The contraption even "breathes in" near the end!
Forget these people talking about how no voice over makes this video no good. You provide value. I can appreciate that. But also - you did great in your most recent with a voiceover!
I have no idea how I found your channel, but so glad I did. I am interested in all things CGI and am trying to learn from this industry to enhance my architectural design and presentation work. Great Channel !! Please keep them coming.
Multi-plane isn't the same as camera projection (unless you're simply projecting an image on flat 'cards' that move in 3D space). With camera projection you're 'projecting' an image onto geometry, allowing a second camera to move (slightly) to make the object appear to be a textured object with modeled detail. Take a house, for example. You could project an image of a simple house onto a 3D box with some geometry for the "gable roof" on top. The projected image then 'attaches' to the very basic geometry, and a second camera can move around (very slightly) to allow parallax -- making the house appear to be a photorealistic 3D model, without spending the time to model and texture all the details. The multiplane camera that Disney created was brilliant, no doubt. Certainly worth a video to highlight how it came about and how it was used.
@@DavidLGood Camera projection you can move a lot. Especially if you are doing 360 camera projections with multiple cameras, you can do full 360 camera moves. That would be common for an asset that needs to go in many shots and then you would just 3d track and layout every shot the same so it's just a matter of plug and play. With how quickly you can do CG texturing and procedural environments these days it's not used anymore. You could in theory do a full 360 camera projection of say a house and then all the interior pieces could also projection. Advantage is you could render unlimited shots without having to go through cg every time (just camera tracking and layout) both of which can be outsourced.
It's also. With this technic of projection mapping that 2D movie, are converted in to stereoscopic 3D feature film, thats why most of the time those movie have bad depth, compare to something shooting or render with right and left camera.
Thank you for the comment :) In my newest video it's already my voice. Unfortunately UA-cam doesn't allow to update videos, so I can't change the previous ones.
VFX Geek well I look forward to checking out the rest and already really enjoyed this video. I watch a LOT of filmmaking, Motion graphics etc and I thought that this was Really solid!
In Harry Potter they used in camera mapping for the roof inside of the great hall (first film). Is this the same, like you mentioned in your video? But they didnt use green screen on the set, to key it out later...
@UA-cam Central Not yet, sorry. I want to show camera projection on a real movie project, but I have to wait a bit, cause the film hasn't been released yet.
An amazing video yet again But I have a doubt Does VFX artists have to do the mattepaintings and create a base mesh by themselves or a modeller or someone does this work, And the compositor composites?
Sadly yes. Came to the comments to say the same. I can't stand the robotic voice. I would prefer even the cringiest accent or an "ugly" voice from a real human for sure.
Hey, Aside from the voice which could indeed have been more interesting, it's a bit a pity BMD Fusion was forgotten around 4:00 ... No problem, it was averaged by the laugh I had reading AE on the screen ;)
Thank you so much for that suberb vid! What is the name of the movie which was shown at the very beginning of the video? (With London Piccadilly) Many thanks!
Hello: I need your advise. Is a city night scene with 4k 8bit 4:2:2 100mbps enough to be used as green screen background? Actors will be placed/act at the foreground.
Do you mean that you will shoot the green screen with 4k 8bit 4:2:2? Or the background that will replace the greenscreen? For greenscreen, it will work, but ideally it should be 10bit or 4:4:4. For background it doesn't really matter.
You just absolutely couldn't? You were so pained you just couldn't finish it? Why? Were you worried what people would think of you? Is the content inaccurate? Why do people care so much?
Hey if you want, I would totally do the narration for these for free. I have my own mic and vocal set up. You could basically just make the video with the robo voice too, and I would simply repeat my lines exactly within the timing of the robo voice. Could be knocked out fast. Message me!
Hello there ... funny that I came across this clip on UA-cam. I actually worked on the digital aspect of the work done by ILM on Hook and certainly on this particular shot.
Anyways, sort of silly how so many comments get stuck on the voice-over. I bet you would have liked mine, with a good German accent and all. If you search for me on google or youtube, I imagine that there are plenty of talks of mine out there ... I never checked, haha.
To add what was said, the trick of projecting a 2D painting onto a simple 3D geometry is that in this case, Yusei painted the landscape in a perspective for the final frame of the shot and thus at the end of the camera's perspective travel. The projection that I did then simply revealed that final painting in a perspective manner.
Compositing that cotton cloud element was painful. I added a lot of simple 2D fractal mist patterns to fly through camera to integrate Robin William's blue-screen element with those clouds. Also, note that I took the outline of his 2D figure and distorted it as a cast shadow over the cotton cloud element.
Yes, that water fall was a simple particle simulation that I added. And, added the rainbow as well, with a little bit of subtle variation in its appearance throughout.
I started at ILM on T-2. And the one thing I still remember is that most of the guys still working the optical printers on Hook just couldn't believe how many versions of the digital comps I would run in order to get it right.
Well, next I moved on to Jurassic Park with Steven ... and it all changed.
Anyways, for all of you watching something like this, don't get so hung up on the voice-over. It actually wasn't that bad, in my opinion.
Of course, all of this stuff is now available via in-expensive, off-the-shelf software. Heck, you can now create a dinosaur on your personal computer and make it move.
The only reason for all of you geeks to watch this sort of video is to find out when and how it was all invented. And those were the fun days of doing VFX, right at the frontier of how something that hadn't been done before was figured out by a fairly small team at ILM. T-2, Jurassic Park, Twister, Perfect Storm... it can't get much better than that!
Cheers, Stefen Fangmeier
Hello Stefen! Thank you for writing about the process, it's great to have all that information directly from you. And the purpose of this video is exactly to present how a technique, so important today in VFX creation, was invented.
i dont read your cmt
Oh shit! Stefen has been the VFX supe on some of my favorite movies! Master and Commander FFS! Hey Stefen, I'm a fan!
Ola Stefen, Did you use Electric Image to do this particular shot? if am I not wrong, it was the first 3d software providing a Camera Map feature :)
Stefen Fangmeier bruh. I’m sorry but I stopped reading after “Hook” and I have to thank you for being apart of my childhood. You should let someone interview you for UA-cam to document your experiences in the film industry.
Edit. Should’ve read the whole thing lol.
Two things to consider: 1)Real voiceover work is incredibly affordable. 2)No UA-cam channel that uses text to speech is incredibly successful.
Thats the hard truth
ZeroLenny, a gaming channel, found success through text to speech but that is the only one I can think of. And he uses his real voice every now and again
Who says that this Person behind this Channel WANTS to be successful? ;)
But 3152 Likes, 23k+ Abonnements.., hmm.., it's a lot in my eyes. :D
I agree, there is some GREAT content here, but having a monotone robotic voice read it just lowers the production value. Ever consider using one of those online VO services? Recently I did a project with one of those and it sounded amazing. A great narrator would make this video look like it came off the Discovery Channel.
Straight fax
I will do your voiceovers for you. Just replace the robot. This was such a great video, just needed more personality. Also I'm not kidding. I will record some VO for you.
Right?? What is with people on UA-cam using synthetic voices?? They really hate thier voice that much? Think they sound like the Elephant Man?? Dont have friends who could do a quick VO? Or know some random asshole who could? Its unfortunate cos this video is a neat little historical piece. But everytime the robot stops his sentence dead is distracting.
@@LiminalVoices : Could be, some dont have the voice, but i know there tons of ways to disguise, mask ect
My main problem with recording myself talking is my extremely strong accent. I live in Brazil and is really rare to find English speakers, so l don't practice nearly as much as l wanted to have a fluid speech. Maybe that's the reason, or maybe not. idk lol
@@Onimirare :: tell you the truth i too dont like the way i sound on speakers, but these commenters dont see the full picture, they just talk to talk
@@ThisOLmaan I can see where @Onimirare is coming from. It helps to hear this kind of dialogue to get the full picture. My comment is more about that useing voice-to-text softwares can often make a great video sound unappealing or take a viewer out of the enchantment that information or a story told. If people who do more to make an effort to use thier own or someone elses voice it can be suprising the affect it can have an the viewer. i know sometimes it can be uncomfortable to use one's own voice. But it is this genuineness that comes forth that can be most rewarding for the viewer and oftentimes the creator as well. I appreciate @Onimirare wanting to sound more fluid. This can certainly come across, perhaps, more professional. With a channel like VFX Geek, if he is going to put all this effort into designing his channel he should invest in a human voice. It would make his channel more enriching. Even witha lack of resources, there a ways to get a human to narrate.
please, use your own voice. nice videos thanks
it's fine; I've used tts when I had trouble speaking to get the cleanest sound
@@MrNobodyX3 yeah but its super annoying and VASTLY reduces the production quality of a really great video.
@@MrNobodyX3 It makes the video look like it's made by a content farm.
Great video. and the voice-over is understood and I won't complain about it
Almost didn't notice text-to-speech. Interesting that so many commenters did. Without seeing comments, it took me till about half the video to spot something is off. The contraption even "breathes in" near the end!
yvan you thought he had a cold maybe
@OldPossum Why not both?
My search is over finally great channel 👍👍👍👍
Forget these people talking about how no voice over makes this video no good. You provide value. I can appreciate that. But also - you did great in your most recent with a voiceover!
PLEASE use a voiceover artist, they're relatively affordable and the Microsoft Sam voice takes away from your genuinely great work!
I have no idea how I found your channel, but so glad I did. I am interested in all things CGI and am trying to learn from this industry to enhance my architectural design and presentation work. Great Channel !! Please keep them coming.
Thanks very much!
thank you so much for great information in vfx industry. I follow you seriously.
Actually, Disney invented this process and it was used in Bambi. It was called the Multiplane Camera.
Multi-plane isn't the same as camera projection (unless you're simply projecting an image on flat 'cards' that move in 3D space). With camera projection you're 'projecting' an image onto geometry, allowing a second camera to move (slightly) to make the object appear to be a textured object with modeled detail. Take a house, for example. You could project an image of a simple house onto a 3D box with some geometry for the "gable roof" on top. The projected image then 'attaches' to the very basic geometry, and a second camera can move around (very slightly) to allow parallax -- making the house appear to be a photorealistic 3D model, without spending the time to model and texture all the details. The multiplane camera that Disney created was brilliant, no doubt. Certainly worth a video to highlight how it came about and how it was used.
@@DavidLGood Camera projection you can move a lot. Especially if you are doing 360 camera projections with multiple cameras, you can do full 360 camera moves. That would be common for an asset that needs to go in many shots and then you would just 3d track and layout every shot the same so it's just a matter of plug and play. With how quickly you can do CG texturing and procedural environments these days it's not used anymore.
You could in theory do a full 360 camera projection of say a house and then all the interior pieces could also projection. Advantage is you could render unlimited shots without having to go through cg every time (just camera tracking and layout) both of which can be outsourced.
Starting at 3:12 I love the flutes in the background music. soo dreamy.
I really like the voice, it brings some feelings for me, maybe Im crazy
Your Chanel must deserve 1 million subscribers
Very well worded and informative! Good job!
Excellent educational video, cheers!
Can't believe you didn't narrate this video... Was great other then that.
Thank you for these enriching videos, you're awesome :)
this channel is really good, i shared it in my facebook groups
Your channel is awesome...👌👌👌
Great new channel! Subscribed!
great videos! great channel! please... more!!! :D
There will be more :)
Thanks a lot! Great clip!
i grew up listening to loquendo in tutorials & stuff (a text to speech program specially for spanish text) so i like the robotic voice xd
If indeed a robot voice the pronunciation was impressive. I spotted no errors.
Ha! Love the robot presentation
Keep up the good work bro
Don't forget the software that started it all -- Electric Image Animation System.
great video!!
Amazing! Thank you for nice video :)
Plot twist: It's his actual voice.
It's also. With this technic of projection mapping that 2D movie, are converted in to stereoscopic 3D feature film, thats why most of the time those movie have bad depth, compare to something shooting or render with right and left camera.
Great video - thank you!!
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lovely video
I saw blender software. No.1 in my heart
Je viens de découvrir votre chaine, ce vraiment Amazing. Merci pour des bonnes vidéo. From Congo DRC
Great video
Fusion for Mattepaint is Great.
It was great. Really well put together. I wasn't too phased by the lack of real voice, but if I was you I would take the feedback and do it.
😀🕺🏽🎥🏖
Thank you for the comment :) In my newest video it's already my voice. Unfortunately UA-cam doesn't allow to update videos, so I can't change the previous ones.
VFX Geek well I look forward to checking out the rest and already really enjoyed this video.
I watch a LOT of filmmaking, Motion graphics etc and I thought that this was Really solid!
Awesome 😊
Excellent!
Superb
dear
Very nice
Thank you!
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It's fantastic!
In Harry Potter they used in camera mapping for the roof inside of the great hall (first film).
Is this the same, like you mentioned in your video?
But they didnt use green screen on the set, to key it out later...
Could u please give a practical example in blender
It would be very helpful for me and lot of people
Yes, I'm planning to do that, in January.
@@VFXGeek
Thank u
@UA-cam Central Not yet, sorry. I want to show camera projection on a real movie project, but I have to wait a bit, cause the film hasn't been released yet.
+1
well done! definitely, I'm subscribing
An amazing video yet again
But I have a doubt
Does VFX artists have to do the mattepaintings and create a base mesh by themselves or a modeller or someone does this work,
And the compositor composites?
Thank you :) it depends - sometimes the matte painters create a 3D projection, also to test if it works. But more often compositors will set it up.
@@VFXGeek Thanks for the reply
And Again Amazing content
I Love This , Thank You.
great Thanks for explaining . Subscribed
Love it!
super dear like it ...... plz. upload new videos
Isn't this the same technique that's been used on video games especially of the older eras
still being used. I use in my projects, saves tons of rendering and modelling time.
How to make 3d model of matte?
Thanks for the knowledge
If you want to go the digital voice route, check out Google Wavenet. Their AI voices are the absolute best that I've found so far.
thx very instructive
these videos are great, but the robot voice kills it. I would probably sub to you if you used your own voice or paid an actor.
Sadly yes. Came to the comments to say the same. I can't stand the robotic voice. I would prefer even the cringiest accent or an "ugly" voice from a real human for sure.
Why don’t you pay the actor?
I’d sub that.
@@SanczykLucas but please, no indian accent
No mention of Fusion?
Still used in large Hollywood productions.
I actually didn’t realize its text to speech
nice video, I use after effects so I would learn camera projection in a professional way.
lol..ae for camera projection in a professional way? I don't think so
Do yourself a favor and use Fusion or similar node based 3D software.
Nice video but hey, what a huge lack / miss at 4:00 , when BMD Fusion is omitted...
The video should have been much longer and more examples would be great. I think the voice is fine enough
Hey,
Aside from the voice which could indeed have been more interesting, it's a bit a pity BMD Fusion was forgotten around 4:00 ... No problem, it was averaged by the laugh I had reading AE on the screen ;)
Cool!🎉
Is there a list of sources? I recognise Peter Pan only
Yeah i would really like to know what movies these clips were from too
that voice reminds me of home.
Interesting...
Great video! What music is that playing in the background?
The music was made with Filmstro.
@@VFXGeek Cool thanks! Never heard of Filmstro before.
A as about to ask what compositor that is when you answered in video. Kudos!
Just WOW!
I’d prefer subtitles to that robot voice.
Thank you so much for that suberb vid! What is the name of the movie which was shown at the very beginning of the video? (With London Piccadilly) Many thanks!
The shot is from a Polish movie Influence (2015) - a rather terrible movie with some nice VFX.
Is that music by filmstro?
Yes, it is.
just Great
What is voice synth ?
It's a synthesizer for voice
Really great video :) it sounds and look sooooo easy.... but is Not! I wish somebody can help me on a sci-fi Pilot with this!
3:54 you show the workflow of nuke but in 3.59 you don't say about nuke.
4:07 After Effects: Love of My Life
I don't quite get it. Is it the viewmaster effect?
Great!!!
what exactly is the name of the software for this technique that is the "industry standard"? can't get the name out of the video ... ^^ thanks.
It's called NukeX, from a company: Foundry
@@VFXGeek ahhhh thank you =)
hello what is camera projection
where can I get my hand on such project files for learning purposes?
Just take some photos with your cell phone.
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yeah he mentioned blender
nice info
Hello: I need your advise.
Is a city night scene with 4k 8bit 4:2:2 100mbps enough to be used as green screen background?
Actors will be placed/act at the foreground.
Do you mean that you will shoot the green screen with 4k 8bit 4:2:2? Or the background that will replace the greenscreen? For greenscreen, it will work, but ideally it should be 10bit or 4:4:4. For background it doesn't really matter.
@@VFXGeek Yes the background that will replace the green screen with 4K 8bit 4:2:2.
@@Lp-ze1tg I see no problem then. If possible shoot in S-LOG, that will give you more space for color correction.
nice video please make more
Good
whats the song on the background
Anyone knows what is the background music?
old school
No mention of Walt Disney inventing the multi-plane came in the 30’s?????
Multi-plane camera is not camera projection.
did the robot voice just breathed in? 2:32
🏆🏆🏆
Looked like great content, but couldn't complete due to robotic tts.
You just absolutely couldn't? You were so pained you just couldn't finish it? Why? Were you worried what people would think of you? Is the content inaccurate?
Why do people care so much?
What's the music you used?
It's made for this video.
Hey if you want, I would totally do the narration for these for free. I have my own mic and vocal set up. You could basically just make the video with the robo voice too, and I would simply repeat my lines exactly within the timing of the robo voice. Could be knocked out fast.
Message me!
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