So happy to have discovered this concept...I did years of regular DBT and it helped, but I've always felt like something had gone a little awry in the whole process...hypercompetence and overcontrol come very easily to me...glad to know there's people talking about this!
Very helpful video. Because society tends to reward people who are overly in control, people just assume that we can handle these issues ourselves and then we convince ourselves thats true so we dont look for help. This is one of the first times Ive felt really understood by one of these videos
I’m super interested in stumbling across this modality for Avoidant PD coping …I’ve been misdiagnosed as bpd as there is no research on Avpd & I’m female (& they also share a fear of abandonment , expressed differently) But isolation and the social safety is super problematic. But I also under control too. Binge eating , etc . I don’t know if that is due to ADHD and a separate problem. I’m not a high functioning perfectionist , so I don’t know if that’s even over control , but I fit the behavioural inhibition and all the childhood temperaments. I also have the wonky fearful avoidant attachment so , in the module it says the therapist approach would be suited for avoidant , but I would want therapist attachment. Interesting but puzzling for my specific situation, but maybe it’s not so black and white
Hi there, Thanks for writing! I’ve found that RO DBT-and regular DBT skills can help a lot of different people. You don’t have to fit into a neat category in order to benefit. Maybe it would help to check out some of the skills and see what makes sense for you. Like they say in AA, you could take what you need and leave the rest. Hope that helps! Dr. May
After watching all your videos on the topic, and those of others, I’m more convinced than ever that RO-DBT is the missing link therapeutic modality in my 2 decades of anorexia (and also dealing with OCD, ASD, and other things that usually fit in the over-controlled category. This is a huge eye opener. Any clue how to find a provider who offers RO-DBT on a virtual basis in the states? I’m home bound due to chronic illness, but am determined to figure out a way to access this awesome tool.
Would you suggest that the avoidant coping skill would be the best scenario in your last situation you describe with the boss? If not, which I’m sure it’s not healthy, but what would the best advice be in this situation if you tend to be avoidant and hope it goes away?
Of course the specifics of the actual situation should be considered, but if I really felt strongly that something should be corrected, I suppose I could ask first if that is something my boss would want before volunteering to do it. (And if the boss said no, gracefully accept the no.) I also think that if trying to make things perfect is my ongoing issue, I could use the situation and urge to overcontrol to do a little self-enquiry to better understand my patterns before acting them out. Then after gaining some clarity and awareness, I might be able to make a wiser decision.
@@jennifermayph.d.2761 Thank you for the speedy reply. I appreciate your feedback. I’ve watched several more of your videos that have helped me understand better how to handle my feelings of wanting to just hide and hope it goes away when I feel embarrassed. I love your videos, so helpful. Thanks again!
I believe so…. I have worked with plenty of people who have had both overcontrolled and undercontrolled features-which is why it’s great being able to use DBT and RO DBT hand in hand. I don’t think it’s necessary an either-or issue.
Your patients are lucky to have you. Your knowledge of this information is amazing. I asked because I’ve recently started working with. Sensorimotor therapist and it’s been about 4-5 sessions of talk therapy. They have not been productive. Albeit it’s virtual. I’m not sure if she’s a good fit or sensorimotor is best in person. Not sure how a typical sensorimotor session goes. Any insight?
I don’t do telehealth therapy but maybe you can find some people who do RO DBT in your area on the www.radicallyopen.net website in the “find a therapist” section.
So happy to have discovered this concept...I did years of regular DBT and it helped, but I've always felt like something had gone a little awry in the whole process...hypercompetence and overcontrol come very easily to me...glad to know there's people talking about this!
Glad to hear! Hope this concept helps!
Very helpful video. Because society tends to reward people who are overly in control, people just assume that we can handle these issues ourselves and then we convince ourselves thats true so we dont look for help. This is one of the first times Ive felt really understood by one of these videos
Thanks! Glad to hear it helped you feel understood!
This video speaks to my soul.
Brilliant job that was professional quality information
That is really valuable videos . It improved my practice pretty much .
Thank you so much for the videos!
This helped a lot. Thanks
I’m super interested in stumbling across this modality for Avoidant PD coping …I’ve been misdiagnosed as bpd as there is no research on Avpd & I’m female (& they also share a fear of abandonment , expressed differently)
But isolation and the social safety is super problematic.
But I also under control too. Binge eating , etc .
I don’t know if that is due to ADHD and a separate problem. I’m not a high functioning perfectionist , so I don’t know if that’s even over control , but I fit the behavioural inhibition and all the childhood temperaments.
I also have the wonky fearful avoidant attachment so , in the module it says the therapist approach would be suited for avoidant , but I would want therapist attachment.
Interesting but puzzling for my specific situation, but maybe it’s not so black and white
Hi there,
Thanks for writing!
I’ve found that RO DBT-and regular DBT skills can help a lot of different people. You don’t have to fit into a neat category in order to benefit.
Maybe it would help to check out some of the skills and see what makes sense for you. Like they say in AA, you could take what you need and leave the rest.
Hope that helps!
Dr. May
After watching all your videos on the topic, and those of others, I’m more convinced than ever that RO-DBT is the missing link therapeutic modality in my 2 decades of anorexia (and also dealing with OCD, ASD, and other things that usually fit in the over-controlled category. This is a huge eye opener. Any clue how to find a provider who offers RO-DBT on a virtual basis in the states? I’m home bound due to chronic illness, but am determined to figure out a way to access this awesome tool.
Hi Becca, I don't know anybody but myself and my interns that do RO DBT, but maybe on their official website they offer a list of providers?
@@jennifermayph.d.2761 Thanks, I’ll check it out. Don’t know why I didn’t think of that. Thanks for all the work you do.
Would you suggest that the avoidant coping skill would be the best scenario in your last situation you describe with the boss? If not, which I’m sure it’s not healthy, but what would the best advice be in this situation if you tend to be avoidant and hope it goes away?
Of course the specifics of the actual situation should be considered, but if I really felt strongly that something should be corrected, I suppose I could ask first if that is something my boss would want before volunteering to do it. (And if the boss said no, gracefully accept the no.)
I also think that if trying to make things perfect is my ongoing issue, I could use the situation and urge to overcontrol to do a little self-enquiry to better understand my patterns before acting them out. Then after gaining some clarity and awareness, I might be able to make a wiser decision.
@@jennifermayph.d.2761 Thank you for the speedy reply. I appreciate your feedback. I’ve watched several more of your videos that have helped me understand better how to handle my feelings of wanting to just hide and hope it goes away when I feel embarrassed. I love your videos, so helpful.
Thanks again!
@@homeschoolhq2137 thanks so much! I'm glad to have been helpful.
Can you have quiet BPD and be over controlled
I believe so…. I have worked with plenty of people who have had both overcontrolled and undercontrolled features-which is why it’s great being able to use DBT and RO DBT hand in hand. I don’t think it’s necessary an either-or issue.
Dr May are you accepting new patients for sensorimotor?
Thanks for asking. Unfortunately,I just work at a psychiatric hospital at this time and don’t take private patients.
Your patients are lucky to have you. Your knowledge of this information is amazing. I asked because I’ve recently started working with. Sensorimotor therapist and it’s been about 4-5 sessions of talk therapy. They have not been productive. Albeit it’s virtual. I’m not sure if she’s a good fit or sensorimotor is best in person. Not sure how a typical sensorimotor session goes. Any insight?
@jennifermay I live in Quebec and would really benefit from RO DBT to heal from many problems like OCD and anorexia.
Any way you can help me ?
I don’t do telehealth therapy but maybe you can find some people who do RO DBT in your area on the www.radicallyopen.net website in the “find a therapist” section.