No, Amy is not a femme fatale. I know this because Flynn talked about it. Amy was actually part of Flynn’s attempt to create a female villain that was NOT a femme fatale. She just wanted to create a truly evil female villain (or anti-hero?) in the way male villains are truly evil and crazy. She wanted the audience to understand that Amy is a masterfully done villain while also inciting a bit of empathy when analyzing the whole situation. Flynn has been obsessed with the concept of what constitutes a GOOD female villain that has the same effect a good male villain does. Vaas from FarCry?? Exactly. She wanted to make a cool and psychopathic (and obviously villainous) female character. Considering her somehow more villainous or less villainous than similar male villains is how the audience can test their own gender bias.
The books do an even better work in building the roots of Amy. She’s an only child because her parents had a total of eight miscarriages. That gave her a sensation of victory among them, but also of envy, since those unborn babies would always remain perfect for her parents. Even the name, “Amy”, illustrates the lack of personality that she’s had since the beginning, since her parents didn’t want to give her a noticiable name, fearing that “the Gods would take her away, and wouldn’t notice this simple, normal girl, with a simple, normal name”.
In my opinion the most fascinating part of Gone Girl isn't as obvious in the movie although it is highlighted in a single line Margot says to Nick at the end. When Nick tells her that Amy is pregnant, Margot goes, "You want to stay with her." Nick doesn't say anything in response, although I know a lot of people interpret Nick as still being trapped by Amy and wanting to get away from her but being unable to. The book however makes Margot's point more clear. While Nick is terrified of Amy at the end and doesn't want anything to do with her, at the same time, he DOES find himself drawn to her again in a way he wasn't before her whole attempt to frame him for murder. He points out how thrilling it is that she knew him that well to predict every single thing he would do if she disappeared, and that he in turn was able to build a facade that he knew would be exactly what she would want from him to get her back. In a very messed up way, Amy's revenge plot brought a spark back into their marriage. Definitely not a spark of love, but a spark of something far darker and more twisted that truly makes the two of them perfect for each other
Couldn’t have said it better myself. In the book he does take a moment to go through the thought experiment Amy mentions of marrying/dating someone else, realizing that the other woman would never be able to “measure up” to everything that Amy did. The inevitable resentment he would feel towards the other woman for not “knowing him as much” or “caring as much” would likely turn him into the bitter man his father was (aka his biggest fear). It was like he admired her strength oddly enough, that she went through such lengths to punish him vs just walking away. I wish the movie hammered on this point just a tiny bit more (that Nick actually agreed with Amy’s point in the movie vs just being talked at) because that ending is what made this book such an enjoyable read for me.
Totally agree, and she also plays on Nick’s need to be liked and a “good guy.” Nick’s desire for approval overrules his self-preservation, he lies through every moment to make himself look good. He could leave Amy and co-parent but she knows he won’t because he can’t handle people thinking poorly of him. Her original plan to end her life would punish him by putting him in prison, yes, but she knew even worse was he would become a bad guy to the whole world
Also love the ambiguity of her diaries, cause she says to the audience that he physically abused her, and at the end we see him being aggressive. So even when shes creating this idea and story within her diary to frame him, she isn't utterly untrustworthy, and as if these events do have a basis in reality albeit fractured
I don’t think it was intended that way. Him attacking her once after being framed for murder and publicly slandered doesn’t imply that he did it before.
@@1000clones that's fair, however we do see him break a glass infront of the detective, so it's ambiguous if he is or not because there are some scenes that show he is, and others dictated by the diary entries
@iiericshermanii5495 ehh the book talks a lot about the assume gender roles of men and women. Fact is men are casually abusive pretty dang often and women are expected to tolerate it and dress it down as less than abuse. Good examples are things like men grabbing your arm when they're mad, they aren't hurting you, it is physical abuse tho, it's a control tactic and the point is to have a firm grip that implies you could hurt her. That's not uncommon. Or a hand on the shoulder when you're in public and upu upset them, a squeeze that's a little too tight. Thats not uncommon. Chris Rock has a famous joke saying he'd never hit a woman, but he will shake them when he's mad. That's abuse. Men are taught that physically expressing anger is "normal" and women are taught that they need to accept little man baby anger. That's a big point of the movie, is social expectations. Even if he was beating her, society would still expect her to be meek and scared and desperate. Nobody wants to see a calculated woman acting like an evil man
Rosamund Pike was excellent in this role, but I heard that the author of the book (Gillian Flynn) was thinking about Ben Affleck when she wrote the character of Nick. I'd argue, they both are essential to the success of this movie, even though Ben Affleck is a bonafide goober. Great video, subscribed!
@@ABooTubeProduction Ben Affleck definitely is great and this is possibly his best role other than that one time he told Matt Damon that he wants to wake up and never see him again.
I never understood why so many people didn't get the point of this story. The point is that everybody has bias, and that manipulative people will do anything to use those biases for personal gains. Most people just cheered for Amy. It's like when people glorify Bateman from American Psycho or the Douglas character from "Falling Down"
Right? Men act like its tragic people cheer for Amy, but then people wear t-shirts of 90s male slashers. People dress up as clockwork orange main character, a guy that rapes 2 women on screen, and people have an issue with gone girl. It's ridiculous
I think people forget that before she met nick she literally was an awful person then. She framed someone, still was manipulated but people just see she was cheated on for some reason and go yes girl! Like no you're not suppose to be cheering for her
As an audience member, it’s nice bc we don’t often get a story told from a woman’s perspective where she gets her deserved revenge. But I think maybe I might’ve been apart from general audiences in the way the ending was so dark to me bc she doesn’t really love him, she only wanted to control him entirely and he may have been crappy but nobody really deserves a fate like that. The only person who could (almost) see the truth for what it was was the FBI agent and she never gets to reveal the truth…
I can’t imagine the horror of having to live under the same roof as someone who hates you THAT much that she was willing to seal you into any fate that tortured you best, either framed for murder or stuck living a lie with the person who tried to frame you!
Hah !! Yeah hik doijg this looking in Batman shape doing a David fincher movie prob peaked her interest just a lil lol . This is his best role I think .
Reading this for the first time without having no idea what is it about was such an experience. First half you’ll root for Amy then boom! David Fincher did an amazing job with the film as well. It gives the same roller coaster feel.
Yeah… the ‘cool girl’ monologue is not about demonstrating how crazy Amy is (though yes, she is unwell) but how crazy it is that society - and men specifically - expect women to fulfill all of these unrealistic fantasy roles in their lives. Amy can’t be ‘Amazing Amy’ and the perfect daughter and perfect wife….. etc etc. It’s crazy to expect that of her, and when women try to fulfill these fantasies, they’re forced into a crazy frame of mind. And they lose track of who they are. So yeah, Amy has some weird stuff going on, but in many instances it’s not that SHE’S crazy - but that expectations of women (including the audience’s) are crazy.
Yes I 100% agree that THAT is exactly what the 'Cool Girl' monologue is about, the unrealistic standards many women have to adopt to please their spouses, and I should have clearly stated that in my video but just assumed most would understand that I understood that, that's on me. But what makes the monologue so great is that that is the surface level facade, it's what Amy wants you to hear, at least to me, is that it does in fact show how pathetic and fragmented Amy is. That is the entire point of the monologue, it shows her motivations but it also shows her motivations for the motivations. This is more evident in the books ending than it is in the movie, but in the book Nick explains how he feels sorry for her, that she has to wake up everyday and be herself, which makes Amy very confused and disturbed.
I think it can also be both in a way. It obviously is meant to show the pressures that are put on women but also is a deep dive into the complex nature of amys psychopathy.
it's more like women themselves are putting pressure on themselves to fulfill these fantasies, nobody is stopping women from going AWOL or to look "not perfect/attractive" but they do because they want external validation and specifically, Amy is in high society where the standards are also high, but nobody is stopping her from buying an RV and go travel remote places in the world but she doesn't because she wants validation from her parents some female celebrities even talked about not shaving, but most women wouldn't have the guts to Amy could have left Nick, but she didn't because it's convenient for her social status, it's the same reason why men don't want divorce even when they have other women
It’s definitely that societal critique. In the book-but not movie-this is also something else important. At the end of the movie Nick is just trapped, but at the end of the book Nick essentially decides to be the “Good Husband/Father” for Amy which is the inverse of Amy being the “Cool Girl” for Nick. Margo confronts him about how he wants the excuse to stay due to his twisted, obsessive sort of love for Amy and the literal last paragraphs from Nick’s perspective describe his desire to fit this role written for him by Amy/society. It’s a bookend/mirror thing that the movie skipped for straight horror.
also, don't women say that they wear make-up and revealing clothes for themselves, that they just feel good, and aren't doing it for men or anyone else? but with Gone Girl women say they're FORCED to do all those things so which is it? the only honest woman I've seen was Sookie in True Blood who said that she wears make-up to get bigger tips
You are so right that Rosamund Pike *makes* this movie. She gives one of my favourite interesting twisted character performances. Along with Jake Gyllenhaal’s in Nightcrawler. Also, loved your take on this film, and your editing is funny. Scubscribed to see more of your work in the future
Fun video. I don't think Nick is forced necessarily. I think his twin is right on the money; he -wants- to stay with Amy. I think it goes to show how fucked up he is too. Maybe the situation has irreversibly changed him or maybe he always was that way. Either way, I think he kind of likes it and both Amy and his sister call him out on it.
He loves to look like the good guy and this eventually becomes his own downfall. It's what got him in all of this mess to begin with. Truly a very flawed but interesting character.
In the book he does say that in a twisted sense no other woman would know him the way Amy knew him and that to some extent she was right about the fact that when he is playing his role he is “happy”. Basically they are made for each other.
there are 3 types of movies for me the ones i dont watch the ones i am forced to watch (by a family member or a friend) and the ones i watch repeatedly
This is a brilliant video, thanks for making it 😊 I love GG because Amy is truly terrifying without it having to be typically masculine. There is plenty movies with terrifying female characters that are great at using weapons and muscle to achieve their goals. Amy uses the perception and prejudices society already has of women that are kinda kinda not routed in reality. She tells everyone that nick is abusive, that she wanted a child and he didn't, that a woman only kills to protect herself from an attacker. That women are always reactive and never active and uses that to her advantage. I think People dislike the character because they cannot fathom a woman actually be terrifying with what she already has. She doesn't need super human strength or weapons or whatever she can just use what's already there
I think this points uncomfortably to the masks we all wear in society; even in relationships. All of us are really black boxes & we present versions of our true selves - we are unknown to our partners and they are unknown to us. The movie is therefore uncomfortable in it's truths. I lived with someone who had narcissistic personality disorder as well as histrionic personality disorder and if I get a wiff of that stuff I am gone boy. That woman, 30 years later started a relationship with a friend of mine across the pond in the UK - that ended in a horror-show of self-harm, gaslighting etc that mimicked the end of mine - 30 years & that woman hadn't changed one bit - amazing.
That's why education about toxic people is so importa. But to many people are desperate to be in a relationship in hhe hope to fix them and their lifes. That they choose to ignore the Red flags. It's better to stay Single and work on yourself and get self esteem indtead of lowering yourself and your standarts just to not feel the inner void. The people I met that want to be in a relationship and are looking everywhere come across as week and needy and immature, perfect prey for toxic people
why are you assuming "we all" wear a mask? there indeed are sincere people, and there also are people who are autistic and don't even know how to fake and you mean wearing a mask only at the start of the relationship, when the couple is lovey-dovey and say whatever to please their partner? but nobody can wear a mask long-term, especially when the couple lives together
As someone who read this book at 16 this is unironically true for me😭 Her cool girl monologue really left a deep impact on me that still affects how I look at relationships
i just want to point out this notion that " we the audience" had a love hate relationship with Amy and Nick. At worst I felt disappointment and embarrassment with Nick and at best I empathized with Amy spiralling and having a cheating partner. She is a downright evil person. Completely irredeemable narcissist imo.
It honestly blows my mind that so many people find Nick and Amy equally bad. He's just a cheating shlub, she's an amoral murdering psychopath... they're not even in the same solar system.
Just rewatched Gone Girl this past Friday. It was my girlfriend’s first time seeing this film! It is my favorite romantic comedy as well! Perfect timing for UA-cam to suggest this upload!
loved her in this role honestly. my only complaint is that she does NOT sound american😭. the whole time they were calling her an american sweetheart and stuff i was completely confused because for a while i thought she was supposed to be european. (so imagine my surprise when her very clearly american parents were introduced lol)
The scene where the cop tells Nick that Amy might actually be a psychopathic mastermind behind everything that has happened but they can't prove it, and Nick has basically no choice but to keep acting happy husband despite Amy knowing that Nick knows, and him leaving or trying to trick her might be fatal for him - and then, covered in dried blood, Amy does this little smile and waves at them through the window; it's just a fantastic, anxiety inducing, and darkly funny scene. I liked the movie a lot and Rosamund Pike was simply brilliant all the way through.
one of my all time favorites, thank you for doing it justice. one thing thats always stood out to me about the ending is "what will we do?" i have NO idea if its intentional or not, but my thought is always 'does this we include the child?' which then spirals into this thought process of will this child grow up like amy? or like nick? having an identity crisis because of the choices parents made very much like amy herself. what will they do to each other indeed, and what will become of that poor child grown from picture perfect hatred. of fear to be in your own home. scared of the ones you love, that love you. its fantastically terrifying. i adore it!
Also it is an ending that just fills you with dread but I like to look at it more positively, that just maybe Nick’s presence will be enough to save his child.
@@FruityHachi i unfortunately understand what thats like to a degree. i hope it gets better for you. it did for me, so all i can say is dont give up, hold tight to hope.
I’m just relieved a film about a female domestic abuser is so popular. As a man who’s been through that, it can feel kinda lonely with the lack of media representation. What’s portrayed (and indeed isn’t) in fictional media has a bigger impact on how we see the real world than we realize. All this to say: More evil women in fiction who AREN’T protected by the narrative, please!
Counterpoint:. A shockingly high percentage of people see Amy as a sort of vigilante, stepping outside law to get justice against the men who've wronged her.
@@chrisclark7285then those people need to watch the movie again. It is clear that she has ruined the life of many men that didn’t deserve it. Almost not essay I have seen talks about this scene, but I almost remember the scene in which Nick goes to talk with another ex partner of Amy and how she made everyone think that he was an abuser. She isn’t a vigilante, she is sociopathic woman that ruins the life of everyone that doesn’t do exactly as she wants.
@@micotellsartAgreed. Social conditioning has made the average person really bad at calling out abusive behavior in women. If you want to really damage your faith in humanity, check out the discourse around "Midsommar.".
@@chrisclark7285 Yeah, it’s unfortunate. I don’t mind a rape-revenge tale when done right, but Amy Dunne ain’t no Jennifer Hills. As for the Midsommar thing…it’s one of those films I literally can’t talk about to people because their asinine media-illiterate, downright misandrist takes make me homicidal. How do we live in the age of “ending explained” videos when so many people just refuse to understand the very simplistic ending? It’s depressing.
i wasn't ready for the plot twist when i was reading the book and the way Rosamund perfectly portrayed Amy makes this movie so enjoyable every time i watch it... not to talk about how Ben Affleck did a really good job portraying himse- I mean, portraying Nick Dune!
I had thought that it was alluded that they both lost their jobs and were just living off of what was left of her trust fund for the meantime until they had to move to missouri
This is a weak spot of the story, a woman so capable and ambitious , extremely intelligent, with all those degrees, with her parents' connections, gets laid off?? And can't find a job? Very very unlikely
Fun Fact: She didn't go hide out in the Ozarks. She actually hid at Giant City State Park in Southern Illinois. South of Carbondale. A quick drive from Cape Girardeau where more scenes from the movie were filmed.
Call me crazy but in the beggining shot Amy looked unsure and even a little grumpy, like she knows what Nick has done but she is still not sure how he feels about her, in the last shot she looks like she is very happy cause she knows she is in control
5:54 …no, the events are real. That’s what makes this so masterful: the “fairytale early days” really happened*, the abusive parts at the end were the fabrications. That’s why the police believe Amy’s diary, because Nick affirms that the first half is correct (and of course, it would be *very* convenient for him to only disavow the parts that make him look bad) *though she was putting on a front, a performance, for these fairytale early days. She and Nick both were. So the events were real, but also not entirely
Hot take: I don’t think it’s Nick’s baby. After she kills Desi she also… finishes him off. Her return would be too fast for the pregnancy to register on a test/in the blood but with enough time people would assume that it’s Nick’s and because of the nature of the media (as discussed) they don’t care about the truth, they just want the story
The film worked so well on me that I was angry the first time I watched it. I couldn’t believe Amy was evil the whole time. I felt like Nick deserved to be evil abuser she had painted in her diaries and I couldn’t watch the film again for years cos I was just pissed about the story. Then I made my fiancé watch it last year with me as our spooky film for Halloween and I just loved it. It’s so well done, and the book is even better!
Just wanted to say your break down of such a phenomenal movie was so good 🔥 love your editing style as well. This movie forever will give me a rush. Too good.
The editing is 🧑🍳💋 The wildest thing about this movie is that the media cycle is so sped up snd out of whack that all of this can happen in a day now.
i love how everyone misses the point that they both are terrible people but because amy is woman there will be those incels in the comments that be like “oh but she was manipulative” DUHHH THATS THE POINT OF THE MOVIE
@@bgos4727 Karma would be her taking the bar from him in a divorce. Karma is not framing him for murder and then holding him hostage in the relationship.
@@AaaAa-pq1gb I was gonna mention that in this video actually but that’s just so funny to me that $90,000 was lost because ben refused to wear a yankees cap.
Back then, I heard Gillian Flynn was writing a sequel to Gone girl in the child's perspective (presumably a son from what I remember) Idk what happened to it or whether it's ongoing coz Flynn is a literal creative mastermind genius writer, but I sure as hell know that I'm putting my money on the day of that book release.
Great video! I love this movie and your analysis. I like the visual edits you do like the glass, but the audio edits where a song frequently plays for 1 second are kinda distracting-I guess just reminded me how good that soundtrack is and I wanna hear it! 😅 Thanks!
I bought the book after watching the movie. Already knowing the entire plot, I was still tricked by the novel. Such fantastic writing for both mediums.
Fantastic video that really nailed what I felt about the film as well! I know a lot of people think she's just a psycho, girlboss, or just wants to take revenge for cheating, but the way you put it how the "real" Amy doesn't exist or is close enough to a hollow shell to not matter, was really succinct. Do you have any socials or anywhere else we can see your takes? Instant sub here :) bonus: loved the whiplash soundtrack in the background!!
Haha Romantic comedy 😉 This was excellent, I never thought about it the fact that the cops didn't care about how she got out. I wonder about the book, if it gives more insight.
Ain't no way someone who planned everything like she did would have gotten got by that couple like she did. That was my I my issue with the story. But that is a tangent. This is a great breakdown. Who was cheering for Amy? She was a horrible person. Nick is a crummy dude but he isn't just an awful person like Amy.
love the video man really good editing it was funny. i only disagree with one thing. you couldn't recast Nick. I think aflleck did a great job. not as good as rosmand's performance but still iconic
I have the novel. It's was okay reading it for the first time. I got boring the second time. All the characters are unlikeable for my personal taste and I don't care what happens to them. Yes, people like Amy are real and there are wayyy more of them than you might guess. But somehow society chooses to ignore it. Imagine children would learn in school what toxic people are and how to Spot them, how to fight them off, how to effectevily Exposé them. Society would collapse within a few years. My Stalker is a guy that everyone thinks of as the lazy supercalm weed smoke. He comes at night and super agressively vandalizes in my appartement building. Police does nothing, some neighbours don't care because I am unmarried and childfree and that means for them that I am a big problem, not him. Evil people in Real life are way more intersting than this movie. But maybe it raises awareness.
jake gyllenhaal being looped in with the great psychopaths that dominate cinema…TOOK ME OUT. This video wins for the most times I’ve genuinely laughed while watching a video essay 😂
Rosamund SHOULD HAVE WON THE OSCAR!
I agree
This!!!..
she was terrifying. I loved it.
No, Amy is not a femme fatale. I know this because Flynn talked about it. Amy was actually part of Flynn’s attempt to create a female villain that was NOT a femme fatale. She just wanted to create a truly evil female villain (or anti-hero?) in the way male villains are truly evil and crazy. She wanted the audience to understand that Amy is a masterfully done villain while also inciting a bit of empathy when analyzing the whole situation.
Flynn has been obsessed with the concept of what constitutes a GOOD female villain that has the same effect a good male villain does. Vaas from FarCry?? Exactly. She wanted to make a cool and psychopathic (and obviously villainous) female character. Considering her somehow more villainous or less villainous than similar male villains is how the audience can test their own gender bias.
Sadly anything women do in an evil way to men seems to be an excuse for labeling her cool, a femme fatale, a black widow that somehow is justified.
How does any of this not make her a femme fatal? You don't know what the words you use mean.
Just because she tried doesn’t mean she succeeded. She made the ultimate femme fatale though. Not nothing.
The books do an even better work in building the roots of Amy. She’s an only child because her parents had a total of eight miscarriages. That gave her a sensation of victory among them, but also of envy, since those unborn babies would always remain perfect for her parents. Even the name, “Amy”, illustrates the lack of personality that she’s had since the beginning, since her parents didn’t want to give her a noticiable name, fearing that “the Gods would take her away, and wouldn’t notice this simple, normal girl, with a simple, normal name”.
That’s the saddest plot story I ever heard
Great analogy 👏🏾
The book was terrible. It benefitted tremendously from the script rewrites
I read the book when the film comes out and I almost threw it halfway through because I really believed her. Very good book and adaptation
In my opinion the most fascinating part of Gone Girl isn't as obvious in the movie although it is highlighted in a single line Margot says to Nick at the end. When Nick tells her that Amy is pregnant, Margot goes, "You want to stay with her." Nick doesn't say anything in response, although I know a lot of people interpret Nick as still being trapped by Amy and wanting to get away from her but being unable to. The book however makes Margot's point more clear. While Nick is terrified of Amy at the end and doesn't want anything to do with her, at the same time, he DOES find himself drawn to her again in a way he wasn't before her whole attempt to frame him for murder. He points out how thrilling it is that she knew him that well to predict every single thing he would do if she disappeared, and that he in turn was able to build a facade that he knew would be exactly what she would want from him to get her back. In a very messed up way, Amy's revenge plot brought a spark back into their marriage. Definitely not a spark of love, but a spark of something far darker and more twisted that truly makes the two of them perfect for each other
Couldn’t have said it better myself. In the book he does take a moment to go through the thought experiment Amy mentions of marrying/dating someone else, realizing that the other woman would never be able to “measure up” to everything that Amy did. The inevitable resentment he would feel towards the other woman for not “knowing him as much” or “caring as much” would likely turn him into the bitter man his father was (aka his biggest fear). It was like he admired her strength oddly enough, that she went through such lengths to punish him vs just walking away. I wish the movie hammered on this point just a tiny bit more (that Nick actually agreed with Amy’s point in the movie vs just being talked at) because that ending is what made this book such an enjoyable read for me.
Totally agree, and she also plays on Nick’s need to be liked and a “good guy.” Nick’s desire for approval overrules his self-preservation, he lies through every moment to make himself look good. He could leave Amy and co-parent but she knows he won’t because he can’t handle people thinking poorly of him. Her original plan to end her life would punish him by putting him in prison, yes, but she knew even worse was he would become a bad guy to the whole world
You have put into words smth I've been thinking all the way. That's really so scary and thrilling at the same time
Also love the ambiguity of her diaries, cause she says to the audience that he physically abused her, and at the end we see him being aggressive. So even when shes creating this idea and story within her diary to frame him, she isn't utterly untrustworthy, and as if these events do have a basis in reality albeit fractured
I don’t think it was intended that way. Him attacking her once after being framed for murder and publicly slandered doesn’t imply that he did it before.
@@1000clones i think what she is getting at is that there is no real definitive answer. We can only go of off what was seen in the present day.
@@1000clones that's fair, however we do see him break a glass infront of the detective, so it's ambiguous if he is or not because there are some scenes that show he is, and others dictated by the diary entries
@iiericshermanii5495 ehh the book talks a lot about the assume gender roles of men and women. Fact is men are casually abusive pretty dang often and women are expected to tolerate it and dress it down as less than abuse. Good examples are things like men grabbing your arm when they're mad, they aren't hurting you, it is physical abuse tho, it's a control tactic and the point is to have a firm grip that implies you could hurt her. That's not uncommon. Or a hand on the shoulder when you're in public and upu upset them, a squeeze that's a little too tight. Thats not uncommon. Chris Rock has a famous joke saying he'd never hit a woman, but he will shake them when he's mad. That's abuse. Men are taught that physically expressing anger is "normal" and women are taught that they need to accept little man baby anger. That's a big point of the movie, is social expectations. Even if he was beating her, society would still expect her to be meek and scared and desperate. Nobody wants to see a calculated woman acting like an evil man
@@christianandjesse7370that’s why I’m chronically single
Rosamund Pike was excellent in this role, but I heard that the author of the book (Gillian Flynn) was thinking about Ben Affleck when she wrote the character of Nick. I'd argue, they both are essential to the success of this movie, even though Ben Affleck is a bonafide goober. Great video, subscribed!
@@ABooTubeProduction Ben Affleck definitely is great and this is possibly his best role other than that one time he told Matt Damon that he wants to wake up and never see him again.
and Fincher and Ben both knew this and agreed to capitalize on it
@@Comporio which could mean nothing
@@Comporiowhich could mean nothing
It’s said Ben was picked because he looks so similar to Scott Peterson, who killed his pregnant wife. He acted suspish in press recordings too!
I never understood why so many people didn't get the point of this story. The point is that everybody has bias, and that manipulative people will do anything to use those biases for personal gains. Most people just cheered for Amy. It's like when people glorify Bateman from American Psycho or the Douglas character from "Falling Down"
Right? Men act like its tragic people cheer for Amy, but then people wear t-shirts of 90s male slashers. People dress up as clockwork orange main character, a guy that rapes 2 women on screen, and people have an issue with gone girl. It's ridiculous
I think people forget that before she met nick she literally was an awful person then. She framed someone, still was manipulated but people just see she was cheated on for some reason and go yes girl! Like no you're not suppose to be cheering for her
*manipulative
Nick really did need to be taught a lesson. Not how Amy did it. Nick was full of himself, women hating, lying, condescending p.i.k
As an audience member, it’s nice bc we don’t often get a story told from a woman’s perspective where she gets her deserved revenge.
But I think maybe I might’ve been apart from general audiences in the way the ending was so dark to me bc she doesn’t really love him, she only wanted to control him entirely and he may have been crappy but nobody really deserves a fate like that. The only person who could (almost) see the truth for what it was was the FBI agent and she never gets to reveal the truth…
I can’t imagine the horror of having to live under the same roof as someone who hates you THAT much that she was willing to seal you into any fate that tortured you best, either framed for murder or stuck living a lie with the person who tried to frame you!
You misspelled "loves" 😍
“Gone Girl follows a girl that is gone.”
Gone Girl still underrated to this day!
How is this movie underrated 😂 I’ve far as I’m aware it got a lot of attention
If you watched Japanese Confessions, the movie just pale in comparison.
Do great who still remembers the trailer and the song from it really teased the film
i think u meant overrated
STILL!!
JLO taking notes
She collecting engagement rings like infinity stones
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Hah !! Yeah hik doijg this looking in Batman shape doing a David fincher movie prob peaked her interest just a lil lol . This is his best role I think .
She's bat shit Crazy as well 😮
This is literally the best breakdown of this movie I have ever seen
@@uironiclizard thanks mate!
literally!
@@Comporioit’s crazy you only have 6k subs but with this quality, you’d have a lot more quick
Reading this for the first time without having no idea what is it about was such an experience. First half you’ll root for Amy then boom! David Fincher did an amazing job with the film as well. It gives the same roller coaster feel.
Yeah… the ‘cool girl’ monologue is not about demonstrating how crazy Amy is (though yes, she is unwell) but how crazy it is that society - and men specifically - expect women to fulfill all of these unrealistic fantasy roles in their lives. Amy can’t be ‘Amazing Amy’ and the perfect daughter and perfect wife….. etc etc. It’s crazy to expect that of her, and when women try to fulfill these fantasies, they’re forced into a crazy frame of mind. And they lose track of who they are.
So yeah, Amy has some weird stuff going on, but in many instances it’s not that SHE’S crazy - but that expectations of women (including the audience’s) are crazy.
Yes I 100% agree that THAT is exactly what the 'Cool Girl' monologue is about, the unrealistic standards many women have to adopt to please their spouses, and I should have clearly stated that in my video but just assumed most would understand that I understood that, that's on me.
But what makes the monologue so great is that that is the surface level facade, it's what Amy wants you to hear, at least to me, is that it does in fact show how pathetic and fragmented Amy is. That is the entire point of the monologue, it shows her motivations but it also shows her motivations for the motivations. This is more evident in the books ending than it is in the movie, but in the book Nick explains how he feels sorry for her, that she has to wake up everyday and be herself, which makes Amy very confused and disturbed.
I think it can also be both in a way. It obviously is meant to show the pressures that are put on women but also is a deep dive into the complex nature of amys psychopathy.
it's more like women themselves are putting pressure on themselves to fulfill these fantasies, nobody is stopping women from going AWOL or to look "not perfect/attractive" but they do because they want external validation
and specifically, Amy is in high society where the standards are also high, but nobody is stopping her from buying an RV and go travel remote places in the world but she doesn't because she wants validation from her parents
some female celebrities even talked about not shaving, but most women wouldn't have the guts to
Amy could have left Nick, but she didn't because it's convenient for her social status, it's the same reason why men don't want divorce even when they have other women
It’s definitely that societal critique. In the book-but not movie-this is also something else important. At the end of the movie Nick is just trapped, but at the end of the book Nick essentially decides to be the “Good Husband/Father” for Amy which is the inverse of Amy being the “Cool Girl” for Nick. Margo confronts him about how he wants the excuse to stay due to his twisted, obsessive sort of love for Amy and the literal last paragraphs from Nick’s perspective describe his desire to fit this role written for him by Amy/society. It’s a bookend/mirror thing that the movie skipped for straight horror.
also, don't women say that they wear make-up and revealing clothes for themselves, that they just feel good, and aren't doing it for men or anyone else?
but with Gone Girl women say they're FORCED to do all those things
so which is it?
the only honest woman I've seen was Sookie in True Blood who said that she wears make-up to get bigger tips
You are so right that Rosamund Pike *makes* this movie. She gives one of my favourite interesting twisted character performances. Along with Jake Gyllenhaal’s in Nightcrawler.
Also, loved your take on this film, and your editing is funny. Scubscribed to see more of your work in the future
I agree Mr Comporio, I also love movies about women who can ruin my life
To be fair id also let Rosamund Pike ruin my life.
@@Comporio same
@@Comporiolmfao 😂
Fun video. I don't think Nick is forced necessarily. I think his twin is right on the money; he -wants- to stay with Amy. I think it goes to show how fucked up he is too. Maybe the situation has irreversibly changed him or maybe he always was that way. Either way, I think he kind of likes it and both Amy and his sister call him out on it.
He loves to look like the good guy and this eventually becomes his own downfall. It's what got him in all of this mess to begin with. Truly a very flawed but interesting character.
In the book he does say that in a twisted sense no other woman would know him the way Amy knew him and that to some extent she was right about the fact that when he is playing his role he is “happy”.
Basically they are made for each other.
The first indication that the Dunnes had something deeply wrong with them is that they lived in Missouri.
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David Dunn to Amy's parents: "You must be so proud".
Yep I know every line that one makes me giggle , their reaction kinda makes it.. they just care about money and are snobbish weirdos
there are 3 types of movies for me
the ones i dont watch
the ones i am forced to watch (by a family member or a friend)
and the ones i watch repeatedly
What about the ones you don't intend to watch, but it just happens to be on in the background and you inadvertently get sucked into it?
How are people forcing you to watch movies? Fuck is this, A Clockwork Orange? Grow some balls and tell them "no."
This is a brilliant video, thanks for making it 😊
I love GG because Amy is truly terrifying without it having to be typically masculine.
There is plenty movies with terrifying female characters that are great at using weapons and muscle to achieve their goals. Amy uses the perception and prejudices society already has of women that are kinda kinda not routed in reality.
She tells everyone that nick is abusive, that she wanted a child and he didn't, that a woman only kills to protect herself from an attacker. That women are always reactive and never active and uses that to her advantage.
I think People dislike the character because they cannot fathom a woman actually be terrifying with what she already has. She doesn't need super human strength or weapons or whatever she can just use what's already there
I think this points uncomfortably to the masks we all wear in society; even in relationships. All of us are really black boxes & we present versions of our true selves - we are unknown to our partners and they are unknown to us.
The movie is therefore uncomfortable in it's truths.
I lived with someone who had narcissistic personality disorder as well as histrionic personality disorder and if I get a wiff of that stuff I am gone boy. That woman, 30 years later started a relationship with a friend of mine across the pond in the UK - that ended in a horror-show of self-harm, gaslighting etc that mimicked the end of mine - 30 years & that woman hadn't changed one bit - amazing.
That's why education about toxic people is so importa.
But to many people are desperate to be in a relationship in hhe hope to fix them and their lifes. That they choose to ignore the Red flags.
It's better to stay Single and work on yourself and get self esteem indtead of lowering yourself and your standarts just to not feel the inner void.
The people I met that want to be in a relationship and are looking everywhere come across as week and needy and immature, perfect prey for toxic people
why are you assuming "we all" wear a mask? there indeed are sincere people, and there also are people who are autistic and don't even know how to fake
and you mean wearing a mask only at the start of the relationship, when the couple is lovey-dovey and say whatever to please their partner? but nobody can wear a mask long-term, especially when the couple lives together
The actress is so good on Saltburn
She’s great in everything
amy dunne is an icon
a little concerning but ill allow it
As someone who read this book at 16 this is unironically true for me😭
Her cool girl monologue really left a deep impact on me that still affects how I look at relationships
To be fair, making someone watch Adam Sandler movies is pretty much abuse.
The comedic script combined with the editing is perfect and had me actually laughing out loud
i just want to point out this notion that " we the audience" had a love hate relationship with Amy and Nick. At worst I felt disappointment and embarrassment with Nick and at best I empathized with Amy spiralling and having a cheating partner. She is a downright evil person. Completely irredeemable narcissist imo.
It honestly blows my mind that so many people find Nick and Amy equally bad. He's just a cheating shlub, she's an amoral murdering psychopath... they're not even in the same solar system.
Just rewatched Gone Girl this past Friday. It was my girlfriend’s first time seeing this film! It is my favorite romantic comedy as well! Perfect timing for UA-cam to suggest this upload!
Did they pick Ben Affleck because he looks SO much like Scott Peterson 🤔
@derekfutrell4908 I'm guessing it was due to the whole Jlo thing.
loved her in this role honestly. my only complaint is that she does NOT sound american😭. the whole time they were calling her an american sweetheart and stuff i was completely confused because for a while i thought she was supposed to be european. (so imagine my surprise when her very clearly american parents were introduced lol)
This video is amazing. The only thing it needed was more clips of Ben breaking the glass.
Facts. I don’t know why that clip was so satisfying that I wanted more of it
The glass breaking is truly the cowbell of this video. MORE
The scene where the cop tells Nick that Amy might actually be a psychopathic mastermind behind everything that has happened but they can't prove it, and Nick has basically no choice but to keep acting happy husband despite Amy knowing that Nick knows, and him leaving or trying to trick her might be fatal for him - and then, covered in dried blood, Amy does this little smile and waves at them through the window; it's just a fantastic, anxiety inducing, and darkly funny scene.
I liked the movie a lot and Rosamund Pike was simply brilliant all the way through.
“Gone Girl follows a girl that is gone” I’m dead 🤣🤣
"Marriage is hard"...that line has stayed with me the last ten years ...😮
I love Nick. Amy not so much, but she’s fun for a movie killer
This is one of my all time favorite romantic comdies! Thanks for the analysis! Brilliant!!!
one of my all time favorites, thank you for doing it justice. one thing thats always stood out to me about the ending is "what will we do?" i have NO idea if its intentional or not, but my thought is always 'does this we include the child?' which then spirals into this thought process of will this child grow up like amy? or like nick? having an identity crisis because of the choices parents made very much like amy herself. what will they do to each other indeed, and what will become of that poor child grown from picture perfect hatred. of fear to be in your own home. scared of the ones you love, that love you.
its fantastically terrifying. i adore it!
You are welcome thanks for commenting!
Also it is an ending that just fills you with dread but I like to look at it more positively, that just maybe Nick’s presence will be enough to save his child.
"grown from picture perfect hatred. of fear to be in your own home. scared of the ones you love" you just described my life
@@FruityHachi i unfortunately understand what thats like to a degree. i hope it gets better for you. it did for me, so all i can say is dont give up, hold tight to hope.
I’m just relieved a film about a female domestic abuser is so popular. As a man who’s been through that, it can feel kinda lonely with the lack of media representation. What’s portrayed (and indeed isn’t) in fictional media has a bigger impact on how we see the real world than we realize.
All this to say: More evil women in fiction who AREN’T protected by the narrative, please!
Counterpoint:. A shockingly high percentage of people see Amy as a sort of vigilante, stepping outside law to get justice against the men who've wronged her.
@@chrisclark7285then those people need to watch the movie again. It is clear that she has ruined the life of many men that didn’t deserve it. Almost not essay I have seen talks about this scene, but I almost remember the scene in which Nick goes to talk with another ex partner of Amy and how she made everyone think that he was an abuser. She isn’t a vigilante, she is sociopathic woman that ruins the life of everyone that doesn’t do exactly as she wants.
@@micotellsartAgreed. Social conditioning has made the average person really bad at calling out abusive behavior in women. If you want to really damage your faith in humanity, check out the discourse around "Midsommar.".
@@chrisclark7285 Yeah, it’s unfortunate. I don’t mind a rape-revenge tale when done right, but Amy Dunne ain’t no Jennifer Hills.
As for the Midsommar thing…it’s one of those films I literally can’t talk about to people because their asinine media-illiterate, downright misandrist takes make me homicidal. How do we live in the age of “ending explained” videos when so many people just refuse to understand the very simplistic ending? It’s depressing.
@@micotellsartI think those people wouldn’t get anything out of watching it again. They saw the narrative they wanted to see.
i wasn't ready for the plot twist when i was reading the book and the way Rosamund perfectly portrayed Amy makes this movie so enjoyable every time i watch it... not to talk about how Ben Affleck did a really good job portraying himse- I mean, portraying Nick Dune!
I didn't think that Amy lost her job or was unemployed. Amy didn't have her trust fund, but other than that, Amy seemed good financially.
I had thought that it was alluded that they both lost their jobs and were just living off of what was left of her trust fund for the meantime until they had to move to missouri
It's said explicitly in the book they both lost their jobs, but I don't remember if they out and say that in the movie.
@@mimae2240 OK. I was going by the movie that made it seem like Amy was still working
She did but her job loss did not cause the financial devastation that Nick's job loss did for all the reasons you mentioned
This is a weak spot of the story, a woman so capable and ambitious , extremely intelligent, with all those degrees, with her parents' connections, gets laid off?? And can't find a job? Very very unlikely
Fun Fact: She didn't go hide out in the Ozarks. She actually hid at Giant City State Park in Southern Illinois. South of Carbondale. A quick drive from Cape Girardeau where more scenes from the movie were filmed.
Call me crazy but in the beggining shot Amy looked unsure and even a little grumpy, like she knows what Nick has done but she is still not sure how he feels about her, in the last shot she looks like she is very happy cause she knows she is in control
I love this movie , and the book. The author has a very distinctive style (she also did the screenplay for the movie)
5:54 …no, the events are real. That’s what makes this so masterful: the “fairytale early days” really happened*, the abusive parts at the end were the fabrications. That’s why the police believe Amy’s diary, because Nick affirms that the first half is correct (and of course, it would be *very* convenient for him to only disavow the parts that make him look bad)
*though she was putting on a front, a performance, for these fairytale early days. She and Nick both were. So the events were real, but also not entirely
Rosamund Pike is an evil genius IRL
Maybe Elspeth is so evil in the Saltburn deleted scenes.
Amy Dunne, my beloved
alone for the Jake Gyllenhaal joke you deserve a like
Hot take: I don’t think it’s Nick’s baby. After she kills Desi she also… finishes him off. Her return would be too fast for the pregnancy to register on a test/in the blood but with enough time people would assume that it’s Nick’s and because of the nature of the media (as discussed) they don’t care about the truth, they just want the story
The film worked so well on me that I was angry the first time I watched it. I couldn’t believe Amy was evil the whole time. I felt like Nick deserved to be evil abuser she had painted in her diaries and I couldn’t watch the film again for years cos I was just pissed about the story. Then I made my fiancé watch it last year with me as our spooky film for Halloween and I just loved it. It’s so well done, and the book is even better!
Lmao I love the sudden cuts to Nick throwing the glass
Just wanted to say your break down of such a phenomenal movie was so good 🔥 love your editing style as well. This movie forever will give me a rush. Too good.
Thank you!
It was more like a recap
Gone girl is one of my favorite movies, your analysis was amazing, I am really looking forward to watch more of your content ❤
I am glad I watched the whole video cuz honestly this is the best movie analysis ever giver to " Gone Girl " . Keep doing this great work
Men: "I..I could fix her.."
Nah.
Men: "But she hot tho... "
The editing is 🧑🍳💋
The wildest thing about this movie is that the media cycle is so sped up snd out of whack that all of this can happen in a day now.
never heard of this channel but i saw the title and immediately SAT
Excellent movie! It encapsulates very well the real life stories that inspired it or even were inspired by it
I must say that the editing of this video is *chef's kiss*
Awesome video narration and editing. Would love to see more of your stuff. Keep it up dude :) keep being yourself
Thank you for the kind words!
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i love how everyone misses the point that they both are terrible people but because amy is woman there will be those incels in the comments that be like “oh but she was manipulative” DUHHH THATS THE POINT OF THE MOVIE
it's you who misses the point, the movie is from Amy's point of view, the movie focuses on Amy, so of course that people would focus on her
Hes a bad person but hes not evil. Shes evil
@@maryamkidwai2543he simply got karma.
@@bgos4727 Karma would be her taking the bar from him in a divorce. Karma is not framing him for murder and then holding him hostage in the relationship.
Guys btw watch the director commentary version it’s just finches getting mad about Ben Affleck refusin* to wear a hat
@@AaaAa-pq1gb I was gonna mention that in this video actually but that’s just so funny to me that $90,000 was lost because ben refused to wear a yankees cap.
Back then, I heard Gillian Flynn was writing a sequel to Gone girl in the child's perspective (presumably a son from what I remember) Idk what happened to it or whether it's ongoing coz Flynn is a literal creative mastermind genius writer, but I sure as hell know that I'm putting my money on the day of that book release.
You could say that Nick's marriage is...
🤨😎
Dunne.
Great video! I love this movie and your analysis. I like the visual edits you do like the glass, but the audio edits where a song frequently plays for 1 second are kinda distracting-I guess just reminded me how good that soundtrack is and I wanna hear it! 😅 Thanks!
I bought the book after watching the movie. Already knowing the entire plot, I was still tricked by the novel. Such fantastic writing for both mediums.
This was a great review
Thank you sir.
The edits are amazing and Gone Girl has too many scenes that fit for funny edits.
Amazing video!
You using Whiplash music in different parts is so good, great video.
This movie is a pure horror movie to me
Fantastic video that really nailed what I felt about the film as well! I know a lot of people think she's just a psycho, girlboss, or just wants to take revenge for cheating, but the way you put it how the "real" Amy doesn't exist or is close enough to a hollow shell to not matter, was really succinct.
Do you have any socials or anywhere else we can see your takes? Instant sub here :)
bonus: loved the whiplash soundtrack in the background!!
Thank you for the kind words and to answer your last question. This channel is just it for now but planning to venture out soon!
Nick Dunn reminds me of Scott Peterson
That's deliberate.
Fantastic video! Many laughs! Looking forward to more!
Glad you enjoyed it!
For Rosamund Pike I'd be the "I Can fix her" guy :D
ur not funny. also, she doesn't need any fixing.
plus, she'd probably frame you from 🍇
@@rotinmygrave Im talking about the psychopathic character she plays, if you think theres nothing wrong with "Amy" then you need some serious help
Haha Romantic comedy 😉 This was excellent, I never thought about it the fact that the cops didn't care about how she got out. I wonder about the book, if it gives more insight.
Honestly i love Amy. I feel kinda bad for her actually. Brilliant woman tied to a lack luster husband and emational baggage from parents.
Lackluster husband? That's a complement.
Great vid, analysis and edits, earned a new sub :)
Great video
Thanks!
Oh man this movie is one of my favs to rewatch. feels weird to call it a comfort movie but…🤷♀️💕
Why does this not have more views, youtube is fkin you over dude.
13k views for a 5k channel is good. If he keeps uploading more will watch
They really are the perfect couple.
Might be my favorite villain
Bro! Love the breakdown, Content keeps getting better! Sound is sounding crispy bro, what mic do you use? Thank you!
@@nikkashani8912 I regrettably use the Blue Yeti Classic
I know its cliche. 😞
This was both brilliant and hilarious 💯
ma dude i love your vids! cant wait to see where youre going next
youre far too underrated with 5k subs
@@arivertoeveryone Thanks, that means a lot!
Well made analysis! Good editing and script :) Keep it up
Great movie. Great review. Me go now.
Me Heart Comment. Me Like. Me go now.
"smoked" now that's unforgivable 🤣
Ain't no way someone who planned everything like she did would have gotten got by that couple like she did. That was my I my issue with the story.
But that is a tangent. This is a great breakdown.
Who was cheering for Amy? She was a horrible person. Nick is a crummy dude but he isn't just an awful person like Amy.
Good work on this! Love having more aussies doing video essays. Also you should watch sharp objects same author as gone girl
'Gone Girl follows a girl that is gone'
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love the video man really good editing it was funny. i only disagree with one thing. you couldn't recast Nick. I think aflleck did a great job. not as good as rosmand's performance but still iconic
Cool guy with Australian accent, defenetly subbing !❤
I have the novel.
It's was okay reading it for the first time. I got boring the second time.
All the characters are unlikeable for my personal taste and I don't care what happens to them.
Yes, people like Amy are real and there are wayyy more of them than you might guess.
But somehow society chooses to ignore it.
Imagine children would learn in school what toxic people are and how to Spot them, how to fight them off, how to effectevily Exposé them.
Society would collapse within a few years.
My Stalker is a guy that everyone thinks of as the lazy supercalm weed smoke.
He comes at night and super agressively vandalizes in my appartement building. Police does nothing, some neighbours don't care because I am unmarried and childfree and that means for them that I am a big problem, not him.
Evil people in Real life are way more intersting than this movie.
But maybe it raises awareness.
I think i know your neighbor.
Amy is an icon, she will forever be the moment.
jake gyllenhaal being looped in with the great psychopaths that dominate cinema…TOOK ME OUT. This video wins for the most times I’ve genuinely laughed while watching a video essay 😂
To me the star of the film is Kim Dickens, whenever she’s on screen I’m happy.
great video but the edits with the violent cuts are really jarring to me. but i hope this comment helps you with the algorithm 😊
dude your comedic timing is so on point it misses it to hit the next point point timing so dude comedic yeah
I was listening to this video instead of watching it and was like “how did I forget Amy Sedaris played the detective”
that’s kim dickens