And A Very Interesting Observation on Why These Old Cars Rust. #11
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2023
- Finally, we get to see just how bad the rust is under the roof, then Paul gets into making and welding in the new roof patches.
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This guy is an absolute jedi master in his field, awesome craftsmanship
Cheers for watching mate, appreciate it.
You sure picked the right guy for the body work
Yip! And he also understands what it is I'm trying to achieve with this car and I think that's really important. Thanks for the watch and comment 👍
Your panel guy is amazing at his craft. The Statsman is going to be a true survivor when it's had all the rust repairs completed.
Yeah you're right about that, a worthy car of restoration.
Love your work. Master Craft man.
Paul certainly got it under control 👍
Bloody hell some really skilled work happing here what a master of his craft a pleasure to watch very informative as well keep the videos coming please.
Cheers mate glad you enjoyed. Will keep em coming 👍
Wot a bloody nice job mate , cheers , shaneo, Nelson, 👍
Thanks mate, always appreciate the watch and comment, I reckon you might be surprised at what happens next👍
Carl mills.. Jeffrey byrnes panel beating is a lost art but seeing this man work is so inspiring and positive for the industry keep it up man !!! This is y I hate vinyl roofs on cars like this holden statesman and ford cortinas and the like
@@michaelbyrnes7944 old school technique on old school cars 👍
What a beautiful job, Paul is a great panel beater. Just doing a 67 impala for the wife. Bare metal everywhere from factory. Just takes one bad windscreen guy and its a mess right down to the hinge pillars. Had the same with my old Chrysler regal se. Valiants do have a coating but it definitely didn't stop rust. Built my regal se 30 years ago and sealed the windscreen with silicone not caulking compound. No rust after 500,000 ks in all types of weather. My old tradesmen said these cars would last forever if they had modern sealants and paints like a modern shitbox. How right he was . Please paint it black with a set of Cragars mate had a nice one when we were kids.
Hi, yeah Paul was just saying to me it wasn't just Holdens that did not have proper protection from factory. There is an impala a bay over, I don't think you can see it. Good luck, sounds like you're a good guy to be married too! 😅
very nice work you do. respect for that.
You forget to take care of yourself when you clean lead from the car. as you do, lead particles will be in the air for up to 24 hours. Use a gas burner and wire brush instead.
Nice work again
Greetings from Denmark
Thank you! Interestingly I'm editing a longer version of this video at the moment, there is a section on lead joins and Paul does say he would usually gas burn the lead. Great to have a viewer from Denmark! We are in New Zealand.
Mastery with metal , beautiful work
Paul does a great job, thank you for watching 👍
One of the best chanels on u tube great work, good music and not too much talk
Wow thank you very much! Appreciate you watching.
Great stuff as always Paul. This is my normal work schedule doing this exact type of repair on rusty roofs- especially HQ- WB Holdens. Always interesting to see how the same techniques used by yourself is no different to how I have tackled this repair each time. The only difference is I remove the whole skin off the vehicle to get better hammer dolly access. It gets really tricky when the gutter has gone too - thats hunt for a donor roof which is normally what I do first before starting the job - to be on the safe side of choices!
Thank you, I'm sure Paul will read this comment and find it quite interesting. Go to about 4.06 on the close up, see if you notice something?
Good one, I removed your response to see if anyone else can spot it and keep it a surprise for upcoming video.
That roof weld is bloody awesome.
It is, I didn't even get to see the secrets of how that was achieved!
amazing repair looks great
exactly right no rust protection on the bare metal
also in the earlier holdens fx fj etc they wet rubbed the bodies when preping for paint so the rust started from factory
Geez really, I definitely got a bit lucky on this roof inner structure, especially considering how bad the skin was.
on a quiet day you can hear holdens rusting.
@@bobhebblewhite1685fords are shocking to maybe worse
another good video mate, geeze he has some skills! its coming along
Cheers, yeah another good bit of progress, I'll have to ship it over to Oz and take on the winner of your drag race! 😂
@@The-State-of-it that would be so awesome!! im up to the same stage as you atm, so much fine detail.
I just love watching these so impressive metal guys
And to the rust
That is why cars are now dipped to coat every bit of the metal 👍👍
Thanks really appreciate you watching. Was quite a treat for me to be able to watch and film Paul work.
Nice job on that repair.
All Holdens were the same up to the Commodore. I did my apprenticeship on early Holdens and that's what we all knew - no paint .. at all ... on the inner panels. Dipping the bodies at the factory obviously reduces corrosion but that never happened. Door skins, lower A pillar sections, underfloor cross-members, rocker panels, front subframes ... nothing was protected.
Wow, it's been a really interesting insight into these cars from the comments and seeing Paul pull it apart.
I like how nothing scares you 😎💪🏼
Haha I'm guessing you are referring to Paul? Nothing scares me either because I know Paul can fix it! 😂
A master at his craft! Maestro! 👏
Thanks mate, cheers for watching.
Very nice work Mate!
Thank you! Cheers!
Wow this is incredible work and I really appreciated you sharing it . Could you please share what you do with the drip rail . Also I see it’s one tacked first then a full continuous weld , that’s an awesome. Great tradesmen Paul and thanks to you both
Thankyou, yes will do with the drip rails. That continues weld is a secret of Paul's trade, how it does not warp I have no idea. Appreciate you watching, plenty more to come.
fascinating stuff .... 👍
Thanks mate, cheers for watching 👍
My dad gas axed his old HQ Holden Kingswood station wagon about 25 years ago because it was full of that much rust.
I have to.pull my VL Commodore apart which is full of that much rust as well,the right hand rear C pillar section needs to be removed so I can cut out the rust holes which are underneath where the 1/4 window garnish normally is fitted.
They rusted out badly as well but they were zinc plated at the factory when they were brand new I think,the bodys were dipped in something !
This car also belongs to my dad so that's why I'm going to this length to restore it, it has a priceless historical value. In saying that I still wish GM did a better job spraying them! Also the vinyl roof doesn't help.
No, I worked in the bodyshop at Holdens Elizabeth plant. we were still making the VL's when I started. and after the body shells left the body shop they were not zinc plated. they were dipped in a rust preventative coating but it was just basically the lower half of the body shell. the rest was just primed , some by robots, and other areas by hand the robots couldnt reach. after we went to the VN though, we had a new Elpo full body dip installed as part of the new paint shop. this involved the body being completely submerged in pre primer rust proofing coating, giving the bodies, including every nook and cranny, that even the best paint and priming can't do, a far superior protection against rust.
Interesting, I guess 50, 60 years ago the never imagined these cars still being around today. Nice bit of History you have working in a Holden plant.
Good score under there, I’ve got a one tonner and the whole framework under the skin was completely shot 😭. Don’t know why GM thought 3 layers of steel on steel with no rust protection would ever last
Nice to have a win like that especially when other parts are so bad. I guess GM didn't really think these cars would be around 53 years later, A bit more spray in certain areas certainly would have been appreciated though.
That's why rotor dipping is important.
If only they knew we would want these cars all these years later.
This is why they are dipped in a giant primer tank , my mate had to go into Nissan Sunderland UK when the place was on a shutdown to weld the cracks in the dipping tank , said he had to use breathing gear inside the tank .
If only they dipped 53 years ago!
They are constructed from thin mild steel. What else would they do? A metal totally unsuited for outdoor purposes unless heavily galvanised.
Yeah and I don't think they imagined them still being around over 50 years later.
Top work would love to work along side you
It's a privilege I've had to film along side 👍
Before the repairs where done was it cleaned and painter with some sort of rust protection ?
It was and a lot-lot more. Next video I think you'll be quite surprised at what happens.
Awesome job just a question what was done to get rid of the rust under the roof patch cheers
Good observation, next video!
feel free to make them a bit longer... we're usedto watching more and step by step how to videos ... so good very impressed @@The-State-of-it
Oh man, there is a man who is some kind of higher creature. I bet he is so skilled that he even knows what is wrong with his wife, when he ask of that..
Thanks for the feedback, I just need about 10000 guys like you who want to see the entire process and not skip to the result. Unfortunately I'm a small timer and when that happens the algorithm thinks the videos are not interesting and they get buried under the other million videos. If there's more comments like your one I'll do a longer version of this video for subscribers and guys like you.
Haha, maybe
This is an awesome job! I tell ya though would love to see more of the process how etc... as a guy just getting into this metal fab stuff on my own hobbie car i'd love to learn more from you cheers.. are you kiwis?
Thank you! Yes Kiwis, Paul has a shop Bodymods by the Hamilton airport. I hear ya on the process and there is footage you would love to see. If only you knew the internal head battle I have on video length and trying to get my videos promoted, ask my wife she is sick of hearing about it! 😂 Anyway I'm considering doing a full length version of this video for guys like you.
GMH could have pre primed those panels to prevent rusting, that's if weld through primer was available then.
They are sprayed with that reddish looking paint, I think its etch primer they just miss the hard to get to spots.
Ok, so I've just gotta pull the headliner down and hose the void with fish oil.....😂 👍
Haha yeah probably be a good move!
Should have removed the hole roof skin and repaired it
Then you could clean up and treat the rusty structure underneath
Hi Randy, have a look at around 4.06 on the video close up and see if you notice something? Let me know....
@@The-State-of-it
I don't see what you're getting at
I'm watching it on my phone
Have a close look around where the rear window seals, there is evidence of what you suggested might have happened.
If you don't end up seeing it, be sure to watch my next video in about 5 weeks, I think you will be quite surprised although you have already made a good observation 👍
@@The-State-of-it I've been restoring cars since 1982
The welding he's doing is
Beautiful
a true Craftsman 👍
The only thing i don't get, and I understand its just necessary to repair like this, if we ever cut a panel hasn't it lost its rigidity? We work on it to make it look new but underneath its been cut and shut someone would say...like we would do this to a newer car as its a write off you know...Im trying to say something here but not woridng it the best
Hi mate, yes I get what you are saying. Be sure to watch my next video as I think this will answer the question you are asking. I think you will be quite surprised to see what happens 👍
@@The-State-of-it Appreciate the effort mate.
Did he just fuse that?
Yeah that was news to me too.
@@The-State-of-it any chance you can ask him what amps for me?
Will do 👍
I spoke to Paul about the settings, he was saying they have 3 welders and each one runs at a different setting so to give you a number could possibly set you wrong. He said it's a case of getting a couple bits of metal and just trialing.
algorithm do not recommend the enemy to me, i HATE with a passion holden and anything GM
Oh geez and now you have commented so the algorithm will think you like it and want more Holden related videos.