Hearing Cornette explain and teach us of how things like this worked teaches me so much about the business and the actual company itself, its such a wonderful podcast.
In 20-30 yrs we will listen back to these and realise what a fucking genius of the wrestling industry jim is. Glad i got to see a little bit of it even if it was at the end. Listening to these brings back the best times.
I recognize that now, but then I’m a fan from the kayfabe era, not this Russo work shoot, spot-fest, backyard nonsense everyone’s doing now. Marks cannot run a wrestling business - I’m talking to you Kahn, Carter, etc.
Lance's best work of all was hosting the studio show every Saturday morning, he was the best in the country at it. He knew how to get the story across through interviews with the talent, explain the up-coming card and selling the heat of heels.
I wish I could've seen wrestling in that building and just seen that cathedral of wrestling in the south!! I'm from Detroit and the Cobo Wrestling with the Sheik was wayyy over . I wish I could've been there for those great matches!!
Well they have to stay relevant. A lot of younger people have never heard of Lawler or Dundee or Terry Funk. As sad as that sounds it’s true. I’m with you though, I like the old stories best. The time before most people got smart and they tried to kill the heels and the baby faces got color
I worked in Memphis when Eric Embry had the book and he is one of the most underated at that position. He started doing the Tn. Vs. Texas angle and brought the territory way up from where it had been.
As fate would have it I’ve been watching 79’ 80 Memphis wrestling in order on you tube lately. It’s easy to see what was working and what was not. Glad I heard this...
When Vince took the WWE nationally, he in a way made wrestling like NASCAR. With the territory scheme at least you would still have fans interested in the overall business. Vince wanted to be ''The Greatest Show on Earth"
Yeah, Nascar is dying, the could revive it if they actually started racing stock cars again. Cars that we could buy right on the lot. Like they used to.
Growing up in Memphis, my Granny was a big time wrestling fan. She also had a shit load of money. Of all the things she bought me and my siblings, places she took us, or money she gave us NOTHING was better than going to Channel 5 on a Saturday morning to watch Jerry Lawler, Bill Dundee, Jeff Jarrett, and her favorite Jimmy Valiant 😂😂 wrestle then go to the Pizza Hut directly across the street from the station. If you were so happen caught by the camera and your friends saw you, Monday morning at school you were the MAN. Then she scheduled her off days from work on Monday and Tuesday so we could go to The Coliseum every Monday night for the big show. You never knew who would be there. I've seen Mean Mark(The Undertaker), Kane before he was Kane, Dusty Rhodes, Kurt Henig, Cactus Jack Manson, The Giant(Big Show), plenty of eventual WWF guys before they made it to the big leagues. And even some after they had made it. Didn't know they had been fired or something like that the reason why they were back in Memphis but it was a treat as a lil boy. In the words of Jimmy Hart's song, "Monday night memories/you're all I have to remind me"😂😂😂😂
That sounds awesome man My great grandmother didn't have a shit load of money but she was somewhat well off and she did something similar for me. Whenever an event was in the NYC tri-state area (late 90s early 00s) she would give my dad money to make sure we went to the event. What a time to be alive.
Born in 78 in the Lexington he speaks of in Kentucky so frequently , by the time i was 10 fully engulfed in my wrestling fandom , that territory was fading a bit . I saw some but really mad I missed out on some great stuff if I was born a few years earlier !!!!!
I was taught Less is More when it comes to wrestling and hearing how simple the feuds were planned out and seeing the crowds in Memphis on video has convinced me that old saying is true
These are the segments that make my day. I like the reviews. They are always top notch. But, it's Jim and his vast wealth of wrestling history and knowledge that really keep me hooked. I could sit and listen to him share these memories with us all day. Brings back a lot of memories of my grandfather taking me to the shows in Portland, OR, Vancouver Armory etc etc. #CultOfCornette wants to know what it would take for Jim to go work with AEW, if they asked? #CornyDriveThru
Hats off to Travis for Hairy Lawler image. It was funny back in the day when Lawler and Dutch would sometimes shave their body hair in such odd ways. Pits and sides clean as a whistle, but hairy chests with clear demarcation lines. Was that due to a "change in booker" edict?
I know that nobody is born with this knowledge so you have to learn it sometime, but the idea that some people don’t know this basic stuff on booking is just sad. And to think that people employed to do it, from locally to globally, don’t know it is absolutely disheartening.
Some of Verne's talent did not appear on all parts of the territory if they had other commitments, like the Vachons. Nor did they appear in all the differant TV markets.
So many hate listens I see on these. I wonder how many views are from people who come to yell "Boomer!". Jim is a classic wrestling historian and fan, his style of wrestling has gone down hill from the early 90s. He tried many times to influence and keep old time wrestling a part of modern feds but gave up. Now he's having fun shaking his fists, sharing old stories, making jokes and selling Merch. He's not going to come around to your thinking. Wrestling was not always good back then but it strived to be, now almost all we have is bad wrestling. No one's striving or trying. I think a lot of it is down to attention spans.
Lawler ran the business in a very laid back fashion bc his writing wasn't terribly detailed; he trusted that the performers would perform. OTOH, modern day WWE suffers terribly from micromanagement and overly detailed writing, with all promos down to the exact word. Who would really want to do that?
Why can't there be a billionaire out there who wants to bring back a Memphis style wrestling show and have the smarts to hire Jim Cornette to run it and stay out of his way? The time is now to bring back a style that is very missed and would do well since it would be so different and much better than the hokey stuff we see today.
"You could be in the ring with Lawler and if you just somehow heard and picked up on that voice that he telepathically inserted into your head without really talking to you telling you what to do, you'd be okay." - Jim Cornette 🤣🤣🤣
Thing is though, everyone has a job to do, and not everyone has the same job. It's not up to everyone to have the best match on the card. A guy being booked as a genetic freak of nature can't be having 15 minute classics with a guy half his size where he's struggling to dispose of the resident underneath talent. Sometimes a squash is just a squash.
The booking that didn't make much sense to me--particularly for TV matches, was when they would indiscriminately split up tag teams, and have a big star like Ricky Morton team with some scrub like Ken Raper, to go against the new team they wanted to put over. One time this backfired on them. They had Mike Davis team with some jobber against a big tag team, and the jobber lost the fall, and after the jobber got pinned, he got beat up by Mike Davis afterwards, as well! Mid South was guilty of this kind of booking, too, but to a much lesser extent. I remember Tom Prichard walking out on his jobber tag team partner in a match against the Rock and Roll Express, leaving him laying to take the pin! Tom said, "I'm better than this!"🤣🤣🤣
I think the pandemic may have been the best thing for wrestling because I don't know if aew or wwe could draw five hundred people a week at this point.
Opinions here. But please stop watching AEW. I dont watch those clips and stopped watching AEW for awhile I cant stand it and talking about it is half of Jim's content.
Then do what I do, and skip over it. He covers WWE and AEW because those are the two big dogs and because he's constantly fielding questions about them. There's plenty of other stuff he talks about. I don't watch either show but from time to time I do enjoy him shitting on the products.
He kinda explained it in another clip saying you cant really pick on WWE because most the talent is good and there's not much to critic other than the booking. AEW is joke he can pick on all day.. still going to skip those vids tho lol
Why in the history of the universe would you count dislikes and post a comment? I was all psyched to talk about my first run as Memphis heavyweight champion when I beat Lawler for the belt and you burst in the room with a flame thrower and now the police are here. Shame good sir. SHAME 🧐
I have to disagree with Jim Cornette when he said Bill Dundee worked harder than Jerry Lawler as a booker. I personally would want to make money by putting buts in the seats.
I never thought booking was like cornette claims modern fans think it is. I've always considering booking like the old text-based EWR games. Take your guys (or girls) and book them vs your other guys (or girls) in whatever match (regular/gimmick) and choose a winner and what type of finish it will be. With stories in the background with feuds, etc.
Nothing revises history quite like wrestling. Memphis (and Calgary) was the land of discarded toys. The other territories looked down on it's goofy nature, 98% of the talent could not get work anywhere else (and the 2% were only in to get out ASAP), and there was no bigger, more business-exposing celebrity involvement than Kaufman...but thanks to the concerted effort (and hypocrisy) of Corny, people actually pretend Memphis wasn't the silliest of all
Okay. 98 and 2 doesn't leave room for Jerry Lawler, Sputnik Monroe, Bill Dundee or Dutch Mantel. And you know there were more wrestlers who liked Memphis than that. And how was Memphis sillier than, say, WWF? Antonino Rocca was great and all, but he was still goofy in most of his matches. He only got serious when it was time for the belt.
First if you pay attention he's talking about building a program between 2 guys that escalates week by week. Not just doing it for the fuck of it between 2 people that storyline have no problem. Today it's just used to be able to hit somebody with a chair or put them threw a table. He said you lead up to that, and back then people didn't do DVD off the top through chairs 2 counts. A no dq was mostly just brawling around ringside, it wasn't 10 minutes of just using weapons.
@@scottfleenor4409 A no dq was a means for the hatred of both the babyface and the heel to to be on full display, so that the two could do to each other what they wanted without fear of disqualification. Because at that point, a simple squabble had turned into an all out hatred and war. By this point the fans were usually firmly behind the babyface so that whatever the babyface had done during the no dq match would have felt justified.
@@ikill4klondikebars yes I know. He's talking about because Jim mentions a no dq he is backtracking. I've always heard him say you build to those matches not just go straight to them cause you don't know how to build a week to week show. I've been watching 33 years I've seen Jim do plenty of great stuff that made sense
Never get tired of Jim telling stories of the territories
Me either.
Especially, Memphis!
It's the far and away best thing he does
These are my favorite Cornette segments.
Hearing Cornette explain and teach us of how things like this worked teaches me so much about the business and the actual company itself, its such a wonderful podcast.
I agree these are his best segs
YES! Love the history
Same
Honestly, I would rather hear more stuff like this than any AEW or WWE review.
This is when Jim is at his best explaining simple old school booking
"King, the arena's on fire!"
"Well, guess this'll have to be the last hand."
In 20-30 yrs we will listen back to these and realise what a fucking genius of the wrestling industry jim is.
Glad i got to see a little bit of it even if it was at the end.
Listening to these brings back the best times.
I recognize that now, but then I’m a fan from the kayfabe era, not this Russo work shoot, spot-fest, backyard nonsense everyone’s doing now. Marks cannot run a wrestling business - I’m talking to you Kahn, Carter, etc.
Jim taught me, through his podcasts, everything I know about pro wrestling but not everything he knows about pro wrestling.
Jim could do 20 years worth of podcasts and not go through everything he knows about wrestling. The man is an encyclopedia.
I agree wholeheartedly! And I think that was the importance of programs given out at the venue idk if they still do that or not
Memphis Wrestling had way less kidnappings than they have today.
And is much more watchable.
There are fewer kidnappings in Medellin than there are in AEW.
@@downwithputinsaveukraine1313 LOL Jesus!
I’d give all my limbs for single camera Monday night Memphis wrestling with Lance on commentary over any trash on tv in the past 20 years.
Oh man, those are great, aren't they? Mr. Russell was the best...
Lance's best work of all was hosting the studio show every Saturday morning, he was the best in the country at it. He knew how to get the story across through interviews with the talent, explain the up-coming card and selling the heat of heels.
Stories from the territories are always classic. This is Corny at his best. I could listen to this all day.
These are the best topics!
that Antonino Rocca pun at the start was equally terrible and I loved it lol
Growing up in the 80s Memphis Wrestling was awesome! The Mid South Coliseum was jumping on Monday nights!
I wish I could've seen wrestling in that building and just seen that cathedral of wrestling in the south!! I'm from Detroit and the Cobo Wrestling with the Sheik was wayyy over . I wish I could've been there for those great matches!!
@@anthonymartin9923 It was a trip!🤘🏻❤️
I wish someone would make just one giant playlist of all the times Jim and Brian talked about old school wrestling. I could listen to this all day.
_Grabs popcorn_
Memphis was the most entertaining show......all about the angles and promos.
This was fantastic. A lot to be learned from there.
When they talk wrestling history is my wheelhouse. I like learning new things
Jim and Brian, I really prefer that you talk about classic wrestling instead of the farce that is called "sports entertainment". Just my two cents.
Im sure theres time for both :)
Yeah, I hate sports entertainment too. But I like it when Corny rags on it.
It’s better to have both hearing Jim’s booking ideas is always top notch entertainment
@@user-li3fr8jl3b If something is important enough, you make the time!
Well they have to stay relevant. A lot of younger people have never heard of Lawler or Dundee or Terry Funk. As sad as that sounds it’s true. I’m with you though, I like the old stories best. The time before most people got smart and they tried to kill the heels and the baby faces got color
I worked in Memphis when Eric Embry had the book and he is one of the most underated at that position. He started doing the Tn. Vs. Texas angle and brought the territory way up from where it had been.
Eric Embry had the book in Memphis did he? When was that?
@@stevelowe2647 That was in the early 90s.
Eric Embry is just insanely underrated overall IMHO
@@stevelowe2647 1991-1992
@@johnathanrush4666 he was a awesome promo guy
One big difference between then and now:
Then, the tv was an infomercial to get people to sell tickets.
Now, the revenue comes from pay per view buys.
As fate would have it I’ve been watching 79’ 80 Memphis wrestling in order on you tube lately. It’s easy to see what was working and what was not. Glad I heard this...
Phenomenal clip. Love to hear Cornys tales of the old territories. This is just really really good stuff
How did you shoot the "buttermilk run" in Blytheville? 🤣😅😂😇
When Vince took the WWE nationally, he in a way made wrestling like NASCAR. With the territory scheme at least you would still have fans interested in the overall business. Vince wanted to be ''The Greatest Show on Earth"
NASCAR is dying now, much like WWE...apt comparison...
Yeah, Nascar is dying, the could revive it if they actually started racing stock cars again. Cars that we could buy right on the lot. Like they used to.
Never knew how much planning went into weekly shows.i thought memphis awa and wwf were the only games in town.the road warriors were my favorite.
im more fascinated by the backstage/booking/producing part of the business , thanks good ol jim cornette
(Thunbnail)
King: "This is fine."
I'm always intrigued by the thumbnail artwork, I always want the explanation for the point of reference
This is gonna be good
"Here's the thing, about The King". Love that!
Growing up in Memphis, my Granny was a big time wrestling fan. She also had a shit load of money. Of all the things she bought me and my siblings, places she took us, or money she gave us NOTHING was better than going to Channel 5 on a Saturday morning to watch Jerry Lawler, Bill Dundee, Jeff Jarrett, and her favorite Jimmy Valiant 😂😂 wrestle then go to the Pizza Hut directly across the street from the station. If you were so happen caught by the camera and your friends saw you, Monday morning at school you were the MAN. Then she scheduled her off days from work on Monday and Tuesday so we could go to The Coliseum every Monday night for the big show. You never knew who would be there. I've seen Mean Mark(The Undertaker), Kane before he was Kane, Dusty Rhodes, Kurt Henig, Cactus Jack Manson, The Giant(Big Show), plenty of eventual WWF guys before they made it to the big leagues. And even some after they had made it. Didn't know they had been fired or something like that the reason why they were back in Memphis but it was a treat as a lil boy. In the words of Jimmy Hart's song, "Monday night memories/you're all I have to remind me"😂😂😂😂
That sounds awesome man
My great grandmother didn't have a shit load of money but she was somewhat well off and she did something similar for me. Whenever an event was in the NYC tri-state area (late 90s early 00s) she would give my dad money to make sure we went to the event.
What a time to be alive.
Born in 78 in the Lexington he speaks of in Kentucky so frequently , by the time i was 10 fully engulfed in my wrestling fandom , that territory was fading a bit . I saw some but really mad I missed out on some great stuff if I was born a few years earlier !!!!!
I was taught Less is More when it comes to wrestling and hearing how simple the feuds were planned out and seeing the crowds in Memphis on video has convinced me that old saying is true
Bret Hart also said Lawler was one of the best he's worked with the ring.
Lawler is over 70 years old and probably still has the best working punch in the business.
I want Jim and Brian to do some more in the news episode. I really miss those kind of shows, That's what got me hooked on cornette
Excellent discussion Jim
"Dinner theatre verbiage" hilarious
I feel like school is in session. Great stuff
These are the segments that make my day. I like the reviews. They are always top notch. But, it's Jim and his vast wealth of wrestling history and knowledge that really keep me hooked. I could sit and listen to him share these memories with us all day. Brings back a lot of memories of my grandfather taking me to the shows in Portland, OR, Vancouver Armory etc etc.
#CultOfCornette wants to know what it would take for Jim to go work with AEW, if they asked? #CornyDriveThru
The king looks like his chest hair was done with Microsoft paint spray..
It will have been. Banter ain't it
"PERSONAL ISSUES DRAWS MONEY".
That's true...
The Edge, Lita & Matt Hardy scandal in 2005 is a great example of Jerry Jarretts motto.
Hats off to Travis for Hairy Lawler image. It was funny back in the day when Lawler and Dutch would sometimes shave their body hair in such odd ways. Pits and sides clean as a whistle, but hairy chests with clear demarcation lines. Was that due to a "change in booker" edict?
Wrestler/pro fighter pits are shaved specifically because nobody wanted to be in a big sweaty hairy stank armpit headlock.. 😂
😆😆
Fleas were bad
Back when life was simple .
The rats in Memphis hated to see the Colonel go, tho lol....
We threw cubes of ice at lawler back in the 80s nashville
All southern territory wrestling was great, even when it was terrible it was great.
LOL! Lawler's chest in that thumbnail.
I love the Skyrizi ads in the middle.
Jim should start giving Charlie the dusty treatment “how can I miss you when you won’t go away!”
I just forwarded this to Tony, fwiw
Is there any footage of the Dundee hair matches?
I know that nobody is born with this knowledge so you have to learn it sometime, but the idea that some people don’t know this basic stuff on booking is just sad. And to think that people employed to do it, from locally to globally, don’t know it is absolutely disheartening.
Great segment.
Don’t know if my comment posted so who does the graphics on these? They are great!
I think the guys name is Travis Heckel
Some of Verne's talent did not appear on all parts of the territory if they had other commitments, like the Vachons. Nor did they appear in all the differant TV markets.
So many hate listens I see on these.
I wonder how many views are from people who come to yell
"Boomer!".
Jim is a classic wrestling historian and fan, his style of wrestling has gone down hill from the early 90s.
He tried many times to influence and keep old time wrestling a part of modern feds but gave up.
Now he's having fun shaking his fists, sharing old stories, making jokes and selling Merch.
He's not going to come around to your thinking.
Wrestling was not always good back then but it strived to be, now almost all we have is bad wrestling.
No one's striving or trying.
I think a lot of it is down to attention spans.
Who does the graphics on these? They are great!
Travis Heckel
Verne had to compete with the Sports teams for getting shows with either the Minneapolis auditorium or the St Paul Civic center
Lawler ran the business in a very laid back fashion bc his writing wasn't terribly detailed; he trusted that the performers would perform. OTOH, modern day WWE suffers terribly from micromanagement and overly detailed writing, with all promos down to the exact word. Who would really want to do that?
Tony Khan should be taking notes.
Won't do any good, he's throwing money at it not brain's ,just like the Jaguars.
Isn't he to busy bothering dogs
Why can't there be a billionaire out there who wants to bring back a Memphis style wrestling show and have the smarts to hire Jim Cornette to run it and stay out of his way? The time is now to bring back a style that is very missed and would do well since it would be so different and much better than the hokey stuff we see today.
Jim Cornette is a legend.
"You could be in the ring with Lawler
and if you just somehow heard and picked up on that voice
that he telepathically inserted into your head
without really talking to you telling you what to do,
you'd be okay."
- Jim Cornette
🤣🤣🤣
I know you guys have absolutely nothing to do with this but I just got an ad for Jesus on a Jim Cornette video and I can't stop laughing
The thing I cared most about was 1) the quality of my match and 2) getting paid. I couldn't have given a shit what Dave Meltzer thinks.
Thing is though, everyone has a job to do, and not everyone has the same job. It's not up to everyone to have the best match on the card. A guy being booked as a genetic freak of nature can't be having 15 minute classics with a guy half his size where he's struggling to dispose of the resident underneath talent. Sometimes a squash is just a squash.
curious, does anybody know how lawler became booker & how he had so much pull????
Right place right time I believe
The booking that didn't make much sense to me--particularly for TV matches, was when they would indiscriminately split up tag teams, and have a big star like Ricky Morton team with some scrub like Ken Raper, to go against the new team they wanted to put over. One time this backfired on them. They had Mike Davis team with some jobber against a big tag team, and the jobber lost the fall, and after the jobber got pinned, he got beat up by Mike Davis afterwards, as well! Mid South was guilty of this kind of booking, too, but to a much lesser extent. I remember Tom Prichard walking out on his jobber tag team partner in a match against the Rock and Roll Express, leaving him laying to take the pin! Tom said, "I'm better than this!"🤣🤣🤣
Memphis Wrestling was one of the best in 70's and 80's but just like the others they couldn't compete when true competition came around.
Roanoke in the house!
Technical Masterclass
Open Match
Call In The Ring
Keep Strong "A"
Protect "B"
Slow Build
Decisive Win
Submission Finish
Winner: "A"
20 Minutes and Go!
Someone plays a little too much TEW.
Dusty had all of those great finishes you mean all his Dusty finishes
Howdy friends
Memphis wrestling gave us the evil me machon before Bret screw Bret
Personal Issues draw money!!!
I think the pandemic may have been the best thing for wrestling because I don't know if aew or wwe could draw five hundred people a week at this point.
James!!!
Hey dude fellow Kenny bolin fan. I recognize ur name.
That chest hair on lawler is atrocious lol 🤮
People thinks all he does is trash aew for views, as if he needs the money.
Jerry Lawler should have been surrounded by ‘Puppies’ in the Thumbnail ... 👀
Don’t overbook your wrestling show and don’t overbook your art
@@jontyrosenow9396 Less is more.
More like lil girls
Opinions here. But please stop watching AEW. I dont watch those clips and stopped watching AEW for awhile I cant stand it and talking about it is half of Jim's content.
🙏🙏🙏
Then do what I do, and skip over it. He covers WWE and AEW because those are the two big dogs and because he's constantly fielding questions about them. There's plenty of other stuff he talks about. I don't watch either show but from time to time I do enjoy him shitting on the products.
He kinda explained it in another clip saying you cant really pick on WWE because most the talent is good and there's not much to critic other than the booking. AEW is joke he can pick on all day.. still going to skip those vids tho lol
did jerry still get paid while off?
Anto short for Anthony popular name over here
Modern wrestling: nobody gives a shit.
NHL arenas, Jim.
Tony Khan take notes
why isnt cornette ever talking about ROH...no stupid skits over there
Testify! Praise the Lord! Amen!
8 dislikes from fans of that Jamison looking fellow from 90's WWF, Mr. Booker of the year Tony Khan
Why in the history of the universe would you count dislikes and post a comment? I was all psyched to talk about my first run as Memphis heavyweight champion when I beat Lawler for the belt and you burst in the room with a flame thrower and now the police are here. Shame good sir. SHAME 🧐
I ask myself? WWTK do
I have to disagree with Jim Cornette when he said Bill Dundee worked harder than Jerry Lawler as a booker. I personally would want to make money by putting buts in the seats.
How can you possibly disagree with someone who was actually there, and knew the people personally?
Woo king memphis bbq
"The End" I really love that :)
I never thought booking was like cornette claims modern fans think it is. I've always considering booking like the old text-based EWR games. Take your guys (or girls) and book them vs your other guys (or girls) in whatever match (regular/gimmick) and choose a winner and what type of finish it will be. With stories in the background with feuds, etc.
Rocky johnson was my favorite.i hated jerry lawler.
Then Jerry Lawler's job is done... Hated Heel is the way of the heel...
I think it’s because he favours young girls
bruh
Nothing revises history quite like wrestling. Memphis (and Calgary) was the land of discarded toys. The other territories looked down on it's goofy nature, 98% of the talent could not get work anywhere else (and the 2% were only in to get out ASAP), and there was no bigger, more business-exposing celebrity involvement than Kaufman...but thanks to the concerted effort (and hypocrisy) of Corny, people actually pretend Memphis wasn't the silliest of all
If by "silliest" you mean "most entertaining", then yes, Memphis was the silliest.
Did you watch the Kaufman stuff?
Okay. 98 and 2 doesn't leave room for Jerry Lawler, Sputnik Monroe, Bill Dundee or Dutch Mantel. And you know there were more wrestlers who liked Memphis than that. And how was Memphis sillier than, say, WWF? Antonino Rocca was great and all, but he was still goofy in most of his matches. He only got serious when it was time for the belt.
I think you have those places confused with Puerto Rico.
Yeah anytime Lawler (short stuff) and Dundee (shorter stuff) are your top talent you know you can't be taken seriously
jerry jarrett a great booker? Maybe for booking chicken salads.....huh?
2nd
What's sad is Jim is a Democrat
What's sad is one American telling another they should vote against their beliefs, and holding it against them when they don't.
didn't ask
What’s sad is it it’s none of your concern.
What happened to a no DQ was lazy booking? Jim’s backtracking on “lazy” booking?
Have you actually seen a no DQ match from back then?
First if you pay attention he's talking about building a program between 2 guys that escalates week by week. Not just doing it for the fuck of it between 2 people that storyline have no problem. Today it's just used to be able to hit somebody with a chair or put them threw a table. He said you lead up to that, and back then people didn't do DVD off the top through chairs 2 counts. A no dq was mostly just brawling around ringside, it wasn't 10 minutes of just using weapons.
You have no clue
@@scottfleenor4409 A no dq was a means for the hatred of both the babyface and the heel to to be on full display, so that the two could do to each other what they wanted without fear of disqualification. Because at that point, a simple squabble had turned into an all out hatred and war. By this point the fans were usually firmly behind the babyface so that whatever the babyface had done during the no dq match would have felt justified.
@@ikill4klondikebars yes I know. He's talking about because Jim mentions a no dq he is backtracking. I've always heard him say you build to those matches not just go straight to them cause you don't know how to build a week to week show. I've been watching 33 years I've seen Jim do plenty of great stuff that made sense
Memphis wrestling was awful.. Still is.. I just think Jim has a nostalgia blind spot about it..